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- 0:01Audiovisual GPS Radio every Wednesday at 19 hours. The protagonist is Argentine cinema.
- 0:10In Julia Montesoro' s eyes, a treasure, a program with a gender
- 0:15perspective that nucleates the country' s film industry. Argentine cinema will never be
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- 1:02GPS Radio with the journalistic production of Norberto chap The driving of those who speak
- 1:07to them, Julia Montesoro and in the controls Gonzalo Sorais, Virginia Inochenti and
- 1:15Hernán Lucero join for the first time in a stage to present absurd wound.
- 1:22It is a tango show with a romantic history behind it, or it can
- 1:29also be seen as a love story with tango background. That' s what
- 1:34your protagonist will tell us. It is presented on Thursday 13th in the Torcuato
- 1:40tazo room. We' re with Virginia Inochenti and it' s a great
- 1:47pleasure to welcome you here at the Radio Virginia audio- visual GPS studios how
- 1:49you are. All right, Julia, thank you so much for the invitation.
- 1:55Well, it was like something we were in that we came up with
- 2:00obstacles going down a long time ago. It' s a good thing.
- 2:01That' s how life has been found in spaces of such cute friends.
- 2:07Yeah, exactly so good. Here she is. So, Virginia, you
- 2:13recreate the story of Tita Merello. There' s a point in your career
- 2:21where you' re not an actress. You' re just an actress who
- 2:27sings. You' re not just a singer, either. In any case,
- 2:30you' re a singer, an actress who plays the song. Also
- 2:36not you in what locker you put when they ask you profession, somewhere,
- 2:43what you put artist, artist. And this transformation of yours when it began.
- 2:53It is that there is no transformation in reality, because I say that
- 3:01I have been swimming the waters of artistic manifestations since very small. I remember
- 3:08myself on stage, since I' m four or five years old singing,
- 3:16dancing, acting, it' s never been silent. Let' s say
- 3:27the expressive modes and I consider that every interpreter the more he decides to develop
- 3:46in the different areas, the more he has those gifts to entertain is better.
- 3:58It' s not beautiful to see and listen to tita merello you were
- 4:08naming her also one of the. In reality, almost all the artists of
- 4:13the past were very complete, i e, everyone knew how to sing because
- 4:23they basically came from the theater or the live performances. No, then you
- 4:28have to have an instrument as more tuned to get on the boards and catch
- 4:39attention and tell a story that fascinates people. Well, I thought I was
- 4:53listening to you about this absurd wound they' re presenting right now. I
- 4:56say cinema that background of which you speak your artistic trajectory. Maybe it wouldn
- 5:02' t be possible. Not me of you doing more than singing. Sure,
- 5:12it' s not a recital, it' s a love story.
- 5:15Sure, it' s actually one. I like to say that it is
- 5:18like a concert performed or a concert that has a staging and there is a
- 5:29dramaturgy, because we are telling a story of these two singers who are known
- 5:40in a tribute to Carlos Gardel making the scene of the day that you want
- 5:46me, that is, that it has a little to do with cinema.
- 5:49We say that it is a kind of musical cocktail with tint to the variano
- 5:58mode, so that people have a network a little more current, because if
- 6:02you speak to them of the Argentine cinema, of the time of Tita or
- 6:14of this yes freedom to love well, yes, they do not have much
- 6:18reference to the younger ones. You saw, but you tell them Almodóvar and
- 6:21since it' s in a melodramatic tone, we walk that rope. That
- 6:31' s why a little bit of aesthetics and because Almodóvar has also recovered the
- 6:43yes, the melodrama and these wounds of love that are quite absurd, more
- 6:48than the wounds, the situations that are given by the encounters and the love
- 6:58disagreements that you wear in the distance. A little good, that' s
- 7:04where the absurd comes in. No yes, they are really very absurd of
- 7:10the situations that are usually given away. You can laugh at that and tell
- 7:16a story, but when you' re swimming those questions, it gets very
- 7:24Áspero and the tangos we sing, some wonderful thongs, are all classic,
- 7:31except two songs. One is by HernánÁl Lucero, who is the male
- 7:42singer of this story, the singer of tango, a typical tango singer with
- 7:49all those of the law, which is called the theme My Blue Night,
- 7:58which is a precise song that he made with Pedro Mairal, and the other
- 8:03tango, which is not a classic is a tango of mine, is a
- 8:07yes, a milonga actually called the well paid, that I did it with
- 8:13the composer Claudia Levi, that the lyrics is mine, but after this listen
- 8:20nostalgia, the dizzy rubí the day that you want me the last curda poster
- 8:31i e, that the tone is the variable way, as you like to
- 8:39define in voice and that would give you the current touch. But also in
- 8:45the choice of repertoire I do not say one that we all know in general.
- 8:50Yeah, well, you saw that the modor also recovered a lot from
- 8:56the Latin American song and its good, romantics. Yes, the chavela is
- 9:03the tango itself, the caetano. Well, some artists that appear in their
- 9:13movies that are a delight and it' s also for this, so that
- 9:20people understand a little bit of the color, the color that it has.
- 9:26But it is a tango show that, although they are from the last century,
- 9:35the majority, except ours, the two of us, have a look
- 9:41from today in us interpret them. I consider this to be a tango show
- 9:46of the 21st century, again tango, even though we do the classical tangos
- 9:50from the place that we approach them from the versions that we are being.
- 10:00We are on stage with a music that is a delight to work with him,
- 10:05which is this Leandro Pitu Marquesano, which good is like climbing a magic
- 10:16carpet, his way of accompanying this breath, this great breath, which is
- 10:28the spectacle in all its becoming and which has many peaks of different emotional states,
- 10:39because well, they know each other. She falls in love because he
- 10:43sings to her with a lot of sweetness and nothing falls in love with her
- 10:48and it' s been dishes. Of course it' s the rooster.
- 10:50He is a typical, equestrian and good, once he has it with him
- 10:58again he comes out of like every good hunting wolf and until he gets tired
- 11:07and then he' s going to ask him the dates at the bar that
- 11:16they met. All this is counting on the songs. There are a couple
- 11:20of poems and very brief texts. It' s a little story we'
- 11:24re counting on. It' s a little mountain through the people, because
- 11:28yes, all this coming comes with reproaches, with grudges, then attempts to
- 11:37hold her back she looks like she' s going to give up again to
- 11:50good. I don' t tell you the end, of course, don
- 11:54' t spoil us cheleto at the end, of course, but we'
- 11:58re very happy, very happy. What was the origin of you are this
- 12:00absurd wound. It is actually called absurd wound, classical tangos and other things.
- 12:05That' s the whole title. Good, because, well, those
- 12:09other little things are all these little things I' ve been telling you.
- 12:13No and the classic tangos too, of course it' s all that absurd
- 12:20wound. And the origin was that I had a lot of desire for myself
- 12:28years ago that I came to do this kind of shows that I would put
- 12:33them as more in the field of coffee concert. Not if there is a
- 12:39recovery, yes that genre, yes in which you do not sing for singing,
- 12:48but because the songs are at the service of a story and, in
- 12:56general, the café concert has a critical look at the reality or about that
- 13:03which you are narrating. And a little bit of that look has to do
- 13:11with that, for example, there are many tangos that I interpret that are
- 13:22originally tangos composed by men and sung by men towards the women who have always
- 13:33done something bad to them. The tango, besides being male is victimized very
- 13:41much the machirulos. Not then a little bit. The wink has to do
- 13:50with that those tangos I appropriate and sing them in a feminine voice and I
- 13:58sing them to Hernán Carnal Lucero, who is my teammate on stage and you
- 14:05give him a re- signification in everything. And it' s strong to
- 14:11hear, for example, poster. It' s strong to listen to a
- 14:18woman telling the gentleman in question. I gave you a home. I was
- 14:22always poor, but I gave you a home. I' ve worn out
- 14:24the smiles of fighting for you, bleeding for you, and I also sing
- 14:33good, in addition to the well paid that' s my theme that'
- 14:39s on YouTube. You can find it another time, too. I sing
- 14:50to him what his name is sodo the unscathed fans saw him leaving the cabaret
- 14:58that morning. That tremendous song we had to listen to. I love Jepolo
- 15:05and I understand from where he composed it. No, but it' s
- 15:11very strong. This is always being criticized. Well, my song is called
- 15:20the well paid. A little bit for this song of the well paid to
- 15:26pay well paid you were a woman and it actually speaks of a man who
- 15:35has been like this a sort of yes of living in the cabillo. Of
- 15:43course, yes, not getting to that term, because the cabillo was the
- 15:50one that made us say that he lived from his wife or the women who
- 15:58regented. That' s not true. Yeah, I mean, they kept
- 16:02going, they took the money from what they earned. Yeah, I think
- 16:07that' s the coffee. Yeah, yeah, looks like the lunfardo would
- 16:11be getting closer to the fiolo, but I don' t even know how
- 16:15capable we' re talking about the same thing. Be good, yes,
- 16:18then live now he put me a terrain that, of course, I do
- 16:22not master much, but well it is clearly understood and I was just going
- 16:30to ask you what attraction they exert on you, these tangos written and interpreted
- 16:37by men, what it is that you like to turn the story on anotherpe
- 16:45a beauty. When I sing a poster and when I say I gave you
- 16:48a home, I always went for this one, but my heart breaks.
- 16:52I mean, we make tangos that are an infinite beauty, that is,
- 16:56they have a poetry and a way of telling what they tell and that,
- 17:06well and also to Mr Este surely happened to this that happened to him.
- 17:11What I find a little striking at times is that the imbalance, that is
- 17:21the balance now, not so much, because there are many female composers who
- 17:30make, that is, women who make incredible thongs and also thongs. I
- 17:45have composers friends who do already talk about other things, talk about other things.
- 17:51They' re more deconstructed, of course, but these classics are a
- 17:57delight to sing them and listen to them and listen to me. Actually,
- 18:00I really like how they sing and I really wanted him to sing me close
- 18:04there to send him all this. That' s what the truth is for,
- 18:11the excuse. It was that time and also like this I told you
- 18:15before, I' ve been doing these stories for many years, with all
- 18:22these stories, with songs, but I was doing it alone, that is,
- 18:26not alone, because I was always with musicians in scenes, yes,
- 18:30but I was the only protagonist and in the case of me they said the
- 18:40show about you also in black water. She was also this woman who was
- 18:45alone and who was also singing there classics of the sixties, of the seventies
- 18:51a few boleros, some things that I like to mess with the known songs
- 18:56and reverse them and run them a little of the usual listening, just so
- 19:03that you can hear what the song says the lyrics and this time I wanted
- 19:12to share scene and that he supposedly that the man who was not present on
- 19:18stage, but was present through the pain that had caused this protagonist. I
- 19:27wanted him to be on the scene this time and to see the conflict,
- 19:33to be present. So I finish exorcising and something else happened and they deconstruct,
- 19:41and cheese that deconstructs a little bit good. So let' s remember,
- 19:52let' s not count much more than Virginia in eighty and she'
- 19:53s with us today. It is a luxury that we are giving ourselves to
- 19:56have here in the studio of audiovisual GPS Radio then presents on the 13th of
- 20:04Thursday, 13th of June, in the bowl, in the torcuato tazo,
- 20:07which is a very beautiful place, that remains in front of the park loves
- 20:14them in the street defense. Oh, I don' t remember, the
- 20:15height, no, but it' s in front of you very recognizable.
- 20:19In addition to that which makes them yes it is like the temple of the
- 20:26Argentine song. Not exactly the beauty. Being there I started singing live or
- 20:33at the wine club. Of course it' s a place we miss the
- 20:42clear Salaistas so much. This good is a space that somehow one feels has
- 20:48that imprint. If you have that printing press, contense, it' s
- 20:55been remodeled. The sound of the latest generation is very beautiful what they have
- 21:00put and well, they open doors at 20 hours, because the tickets are
- 21:07already for sale. In the other function there are people who stayed outside,
- 21:11fell asleep and stayed out careful until we put this function precisely because so that
- 21:21they can come to see us, the prices of the tickets are accessible,
- 21:26because we just want that they can come to see us. To be clear,
- 21:30they have no obligation to consume, but if they want, they can
- 21:37eat deliciously. This is set with a few small tables and good chairs very
- 21:42comfortable. It' s all very pitiful. Baby is very tempting and listen
- 21:47to Virginia inochent and then in this show with very tight thongs, Virginia,
- 21:55thank you so much for accompanying us to you. We' re still on
- 22:00GPS and audio- visual Radio B I' ve got a p- hello
- 22:08silvio la paula even with you. He didn' t call you anything,
- 22:11not because he went to the doctor' s in the morning and didn'
- 22:14t call me. He didn' t come back. No, I don
- 22:15' t know anything. And weird your sister, where you are, I
- 22:18don' t know. I called the police. Yeah, I went to
- 22:25the 18th report, but they didn' t take it from me. I
- 22:26was told more likely to have helped with the boyfriend that he told you he
- 22:33still has his clothes on to school and the police. What did you do
- 22:37with all this? I saw it the way took, because already life went
- 22:45out or touched it are the Invisible law with Leonora Wexler, Vanesa González and
- 23:07Antonela Ferrari, a film by Guillermo Navarro with production of Rio Films, premiere
- 23:15only in Salas. Antonela Ferrari is, along with Leonora Wexler and Vanessa González,
- 23:30one of the three female protagonists of Invisible Stories. The thriller directed by
- 23:37Guillermo Navarro that opens in Salas tomorrow Thursday. Six Invisible Stories is inspired by
- 23:45real facts and deals with the case of human trafficking, the obstacles of justice
- 23:52and the despair of a mother to find her daughter. We' re with
- 24:00Antonela Fer and who' s working in the United States right now. Thank
- 24:03you for joining us, Santo Len welcome Jepse auditor to the radio. Well,
- 24:10nice to meet you, so nice to be here for me just as
- 24:14good. You can' t accompany tomorrow' s premiere, but you could
- 24:19see invisible stories. I saw her a little earlier than everyone else. I,
- 24:23when I was on the shoot, had already seen almost the whole fight
- 24:26in parts. I really like to see when we' re recording how it
- 24:32looks, because it gives me an idea of what I' m doing,
- 24:34which can be corrected. There are times when I, who work a lot
- 24:40with emotions as they are direct, think that what I am feeling and that
- 24:44looks good, because it does not reflect. So I like to see that
- 24:48as if to go polishing but seeing it whole was amazing. It is very
- 24:51different and to be able the work of the rest of the comrades and the
- 24:55work of Leonora, that I had not seen with the honor I saw I
- 24:59think we have lunch once more in all the time. So that was really
- 25:02nice, practically clear. Well, what do you tell invisible stories? Well,
- 25:08it' s a movie like you said, that touches on the subject
- 25:12of human trafficking. I think in a very special and very nice way.
- 25:17On the one hand, it is in the story of Honora, who is
- 25:19of a mother that her daughter is kidnapped and that she already goes out to
- 25:23fight and look for her, as there are so many mothers who go out
- 25:30to look and fight for their daughters. Then there we have as next to
- 25:32the struggle of not surrendering, of helping anyone on the road as already,
- 25:36once you see what happens, does not go back, closes our eyes.
- 25:42And, on the other hand, there' s my character who follows,
- 25:48who' s a girl who' s in school, who falls in love
- 25:49with a guy and this guy shows him. I think that as it happens
- 25:53to all of us in high school, you don' t know someone who
- 25:57shows you this new world, whether it' s drugs, alcohol, you
- 26:03went out for some people of music, a band I say I think it
- 26:07happens to all of us just for Cecilia, well it happens with a shock
- 26:12is very dangerous, which is the one that then will deliver it to this
- 26:18world of trafficking, which is a very common way of supernoig also and from
- 26:22there follows the story of Cecilia, which is also a character who decides that
- 26:25it won' t stay there and that that' s not going to be
- 26:29his destiny and from the moment one is always saying. I' m gonna
- 26:30go. One day I' m going to leave and see how the tenacity
- 26:33of these two people in supposed poles. But in the same story and how
- 26:37they are solving the things that are happening to them. Well, your role
- 26:41poses a huge challenge to her, because Camás has been a teenager, cecilia
- 26:51raped by a couple of proccionetas who, well, painfully introduce her into the
- 26:56underworld of prostitution. Why you' re interested in addressing that role. When
- 27:03I took the proposal, I liked a lot of script, I liked how
- 27:08the story was told. I was very struck by the attention that guille managed
- 27:15to count guillas. The director of the film then a grab. He tells
- 27:18the story in a way that is not just dramatic, in which these people
- 27:22can also have their day to day, then they are humanized. She'
- 27:29s not just a slave who' s making a prostitute, but she'
- 27:33s someone who listens to music, has her dream, has her romances,
- 27:38all that, I think she' s humanity, not just Cecilia, but
- 27:41the rest of the characters. It' s also a role that I'
- 27:47ve played quite a bit in my career, because I seem a little smaller
- 27:49than I am then, that I' m very young. It' s
- 27:53a role I have left. I don' t know if it' s
- 27:57easy, because it' s easy, it' s not, but it
- 28:02fits me because well I look younger, so you can use someone of age
- 28:07with an awareness of an emotional elasticity that allows you to enter a character.
- 28:10Yeah, sure, sure, yeah? What was the preparation of this character?
- 28:15With what tools, with what testimonies did you count to tackle hell?
- 28:22The truth is, it was hell. I, when I had been in
- 28:26the marginal, that was a similar situation or that also has to do with
- 28:30prostitution, had done research not only of the trafficking of person, but of
- 28:34what the world implies, prostitution, because you can' t talk about trafficking
- 28:37without talking about how we legislate in Argentina on the subject of prostitution, how
- 28:42the positions there are with girls to love, with girls who are abolitionists,
- 28:45the consequences bring you every position. I, at the time had approached to
- 28:49talk to the girls to love to say well, to see what you have
- 28:52to say how you are living in the day to day. There are also
- 28:59testimonies, there are trafficking girls and then there are many testimonies. There are
- 29:03a couple of documentaries in Argentina about trafficking. The hard thing in this case
- 29:08is that there is a limit to how to act where it can lead,
- 29:15because they are people who go through situations that are so extreme that the mind
- 29:22of a human that there is a daily life. You can' t imagine
- 29:25what it is. It' s very common for some people who go through
- 29:30this, some who go in, to be psychologically tortured, too, scaring
- 29:34them. Or I remember at one point giving her a testimony about a girl
- 29:37who had her witnessed satanic rituals. Then there is a whole question where it
- 29:45is so much horror that I had to study and stop, Study and stop,
- 29:52because it is very strong And, on the other hand, when we
- 29:57were in the shooting, it was a reality, that is we recorded in
- 30:03Mendoza in a place that was quite far away, near where bricks are built
- 30:07that, well they are lands of not saying it itself, but there are
- 30:14many hectares and I am a village is camped, very isolated and trafficking in
- 30:17people. That' s what' s going on. I' m not
- 30:19going to do it every day, but practically then it was like this good
- 30:23thing I want to get away from, but reality puts it back in front
- 30:29of me and in fact, they found kidnapped girls. While we were recording
- 30:32one block away the other where I was staying. So that was interesting,
- 30:38of course, and, at the same time, a very big emotional effort.
- 30:44Not because horrible, I mean, it was really horrible. And if
- 30:48for me that horrible, it' s a bit of a bit of sand
- 30:52from being seconds into an emotion in real life is even worse. There are
- 30:57things that I too had to start lowering it a little bit my level of
- 31:02playing that is real. I like authors of that place a lot and in
- 31:04a couple of scenes that has more to do with rape or more extreme things.
- 31:10I said well we just pretend that this is not because it was crying
- 31:15and crying and getting to the hotelillorar and waking up to cry is an effort
- 31:22and how was the work with the director, with Guillermo Navarro, How could
- 31:29you boost your work or good or achieve this graduation that you were talking about,
- 31:37just graduation of emotions. I mean good. Guillé was from the moment
- 31:44one with us, with all, very much in each part of the process
- 31:49then, at the time of reaching the set they were easier. There are
- 31:53also directors who see them only one on set. There we saw it before,
- 31:56we saw it out of being too then he was in the whole process
- 32:04recording back then, as I said, the place also puts you in a
- 32:07different situation. So we were all on a collective question of empathy, because
- 32:15it' s not or Guillén, it' s not guille is the rest
- 32:17of the team that chooses him with whom he decides to work, because I
- 32:22also help a lot when you' re accompanied by make- up artists,
- 32:28costumers, sounders, especially one for me that makes me wear little clothes,
- 32:32be exposed to being cold. It' s not just the emotional, but
- 32:35it' s a whole team of people looking out for you and I think
- 32:38Guillén. That' s very professional and sometimes it' s very attentive to
- 32:45how we and I were and had rehearsed, you' d had previous conversations
- 32:53with him about this character and the way you were going to have to deal
- 32:59with it. Yeah, we didn' t rehearse so much if it was
- 33:07something very chatty, especially the character transition, because it' s been a
- 33:13long time, which helped me a lot and she was very present, I
- 33:17mean, it was with me the hair. I started with brown hair,
- 33:21as I have it now and two weeks after going into the shoot, I
- 33:23dyed it all blond, which took about thirteen hours at the hairdresser. Then
- 33:30I already see myself different from feeling the impact of losing my identity, which
- 33:35is what happens to these girls who enter and lose their identity in this way
- 33:37or walk them the man, the document, etcetera, and she was very
- 33:42present in those processes. Then it was like an accompaniment. Well, practical
- 33:49helps a lot in this case now Yeah, sorry, no, that doesn
- 33:55' t help a lot. Of course, the filming took place in Mendoza
- 34:00and was traversed by the pandemic. Also, not this how the circumstance of
- 34:07filming was. So and under these conditions, because that too must have played
- 34:15its part. He didn' t play 100%. It' s again.
- 34:21Practically, it' s much more laborious. The stay you have to
- 34:25have with everyone in being with I don' t know every day. It
- 34:28' s hard to keep a certain distance, because they' re your family.
- 34:31Then you have to go do the covid tests and use the barbejo et
- 34:36cetera. But at the same time we all want to work and be together
- 34:40and we are isolated in this bubble that were the sets at that time,
- 34:45that made us enjoy it more, I think, and let' s say
- 34:49what we are all going to give, because we were all so long without
- 34:52working and without seeing each other and without relating, that it made it taste
- 35:00different than more than what and maybe clear, of course it would flow in
- 35:02another way. No yes, it' s true one now from a distance.
- 35:06That aspect is not so much evaluated by him, but finding it was,
- 35:14but at that time it was almost a rarity to be able to be
- 35:22with more good people and protocols. Not also and to speak I imagine that
- 35:27for actors, technicians, actresses is also an important challenge now. Guillermo Navarro
- 35:35told us in this same space, in the previous program, that he intended
- 35:40that invisible stories would serve to raise your awareness. You think that cinema can
- 35:49absolutely fulfill that function. It' s a big part of his role.
- 35:58I think the Otero world and Argentina, being part of that cosmo of stories,
- 36:05have a lot of stories to tell, lots of perspectives and bits that
- 36:15make the puzzle of everything. And I think this movie is good for that,
- 36:19because not only does it show trafficking as a lot of error how bad
- 36:22all this is, but it shows the client, it shows the guy who
- 36:28works there, but it happened in his life, because he also comes a
- 36:31situation of abuse. A lot of perspectives in a single movie. Yes,
- 36:36one cannot empathize, and I think it is also an issue that should be
- 36:43dealt with even more, because it is a reality that can happen to all
- 36:46of us. It' s not obviously the ones that the more isolated,
- 36:52the more vulnerable to your situation, economically, the easier or make it end
- 36:57up in this situation, but it can happen to any one. Yes,
- 37:00and unfortunately, it' s more common than we think, much more common.
- 37:07That' s why I was telling you that when we were recording,
- 37:12three girls appeared one block from the hotel and we weren' t staying in
- 37:16a four- star hotel, in two or five stars like downtown and two
- 37:22blocks away there were striped girls. And it' s a complex issue,
- 37:27because there' s a lot of people involved. So it' s awkward
- 37:30to talk about it and I think this movie gets the focus on the kidnapped
- 37:36girls and the fighting moms and dads. Something we were asked a lot about
- 37:40is whether this story was the story of Marita brom and I think she,
- 37:45in the beginning, obviously caught his attention in this story, but what he
- 37:49told me when we started recording, or even before the pandemic, before when
- 37:52this project was starting, he told me I wanted to make that movie.
- 37:58And then I realized how many people there were that didn' t have the
- 38:00voice, but had the decibilization of these mothers that don' t stop.
- 38:07Yeah, I think on top of the role of the mother doing justice.
- 38:09In Argentina she has a grandmother in the Plaza de Mayo, mothers for the
- 38:14Paco, etcetera. There are many mom organizations present and I think it manages
- 38:20to show that and I would love that it has that effect that more girls
- 38:27and more people say" che Ojo" with this happening everywhere. Look at
- 38:34this is about the subject, it' s not true, this can'
- 38:39t happen. And to danger also because I think that with the case of
- 38:45Cecilia and or Cecilia in character she is in love and who doesn' t
- 38:51fall in love, then I think that there is one maybe a preconception of
- 38:55how it happens to the poor or happens to the other. It happens to
- 38:57these hives, who are half dumb, who fell because well, they were
- 39:01half poor boites. And I think that speech has to change We all could
- 39:07happen because we all fall in love, or we all fall in love with
- 39:13someone or something or an idea, and our visibility was overturned by that and
- 39:20deception is a very common operating mode in this system, whether it' s
- 39:25for prostitution or for white tata on a sexual level or for forced labor,
- 39:30which there is also a lot in Argentina. Yeah, gender- based violence.
- 39:35In short, the many variants of gender- based violence against women.
- 39:42Not good, Antonella Ferrari, a taste this talk co protagonist of Invisible Stories,
- 39:52that a thriller of Guillermo Navarro with production of Rio Films that opens tomorrow
- 39:57in theaters. This is very important. Also not very important to get to
- 40:04the rooms exactly good. Thank you so much for joining us and congratulating us
- 40:10on your work in Invisible Stories. Thank you very much for sharing and now
- 40:15André this project. We' re moving forward on GPS audio- visual radio.
- 40:24People have present, ugly tango, very present. Well, actually,
- 40:28we' re doing this documentary. No yes, I had heard the story
- 40:35of tanquito told over the years a thousand times and I told myself and now
- 40:37that I have to make my film and see if I want to be an
- 40:42astronaut or if we really were all new. That made us not thinking if
- 40:47the movie was going to be a success or not. Headline freak it was.
- 40:53No. I never imagined it, but love for what we were told
- 41:00a lot about the time was. They left the cave at night and came
- 41:05at dawn. Then we decided to do the same ritual and painted a gin
- 41:09and we all farted, but folded, folded plates or Aldo dishes I like.
- 41:19I think it would be fair for us to discuss the technical details after
- 41:22the payment, and the hairs that the light sun had. I didn'
- 41:25t have a big stake in it, but I' ve been messing around
- 41:28all day. I work I never got up here again That' s nice.
- 41:39I can talk all my life about Roque, a movie I loved.
- 41:46I want to tell myself something about not being old again. Legend Feroz,
- 41:54the documentary that revives Tango Feroz, a film by Dennis Surfeke and Mariano Frigerio.
- 42:01Legend Feroz premiere in halls all over the country Hello. Paulito I'
- 42:15m look if you remember me it occurred to me as a giant idea,
- 42:20which is to put the band together look Anda. Please, I think you
- 42:22should apologize for that authority. So you' re really talking about it and
- 42:27after passing you saw how they are here. But you heard what those bully
- 42:30girls said A Chinese man said rat if your husband, who wants a 13
- 42:35- year- old chick while they' re stalking, to take pictures so
- 42:37he can have proof, so he can stay calm. Why did you stop
- 42:42singing? I don' t know things about life. I know Creo Miranda
- 43:00from Friday to Monday, a film by Maria Victoria Mennis starring Inés Esteves club
- 43:07premieres. On Thursday 13th Miranda opens from Friday to Monday, the new film
- 43:19with direction and script by María Victoria Menís. Miranda is Cines Esteves, a
- 43:25professor of literature who at one weekend radically changes her life following the new generations
- 43:34who started the fight for equity. We' re with Maria Victoria Menez here
- 43:42at the Radio audio- visual GPS studios. Welcome and thank you so much
- 43:45for joining us. Maria Victoria being with you that I' ve known you
- 43:50so many years, a long time you must be one of the first people
- 43:57to write about movies of mine. Well, don' t say how long
- 44:02it' s not, but it' s true. She' s a
- 44:07great friend, Maria Victoria, and now it' s a pleasure to be
- 44:13here, to be here and to have a new movie. Yes, with
- 44:15Miranda from Friday to Monday that will be sealed on Thursday, June 13.
- 44:19Aha well, yes, to accompany the process of growth of your children was
- 44:27somehow to collaborate in the construction of this story that Miranda tells, from Friday
- 44:32to Monday and always, always the case of me, that I have four
- 44:39children, always the upbringing and the follow- up of the boys and have
- 44:45them and what I know gives you, give you ideas, give you situations.
- 44:49Miranda has two daughters, one of nineteen and one of twenty of twenty
- 44:53And well, there are things that the daughters have that belong to my sons
- 45:00And yes, yes, now this is a script that was born when she
- 45:07looks. This script was born around me and I started to think about it,
- 45:13about the two thousand seventeen, having gone through them for quite effervescent years,
- 45:21like the two thousand fifteen, two thousand sixteen, of one or one
- 45:25less marches this and the other, and well, I came up with the
- 45:30idea of how we were falling to generations that are bigger, that we have
- 45:36also experienced situations of feminism or claims and that I, but suddenly, joined
- 45:42many young people, many young people that interested me that these young people showed
- 45:45how they influenced, influence our way of seeing things, you also saw yes,
- 45:53absolutely yes, well, I was going to ask you just without the
- 46:00one or one less by themselves, Miranda, this story would have existed.
- 46:07No. No, because no, because no, because it seems to me
- 46:14that women, although there had already been great feminist and equality struggles and that
- 46:20I know that ball, especially that it was formed in the two thousand fifteen,
- 46:25had something different, that was how young girls, like the poor even
- 46:34brought their grandmothers, their mothers and how even women who had a fairly advanced
- 46:43concept, we suddenly believed that we naturalized things that were not so nature,
- 46:52so to accept. And many of these young girls made us see that.
- 47:00Yeah. Yeah, so there' s a little Germen there? Is there
- 47:06a little Germen there? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
- 47:07Yeah? Yeah? To me there is a dialogue in the film that I
- 47:14find quite clear in that sense, that is Miranda this one who sees that
- 47:22her daughter has a boyfriend with whom she gets along very well and the girl
- 47:25is thinking about taking a trip and she tells her. Miranda tells her and
- 47:30how you' re gonna do with your boyfriend, and the daughter tells Mom,
- 47:37she' s not the man of my life. I don' t
- 47:39know He' s not the only man who was gonna go through my life
- 47:43and how. Suddenly, I imagined when I was that old and good the
- 47:49romance with a guy and that made you think good travel, what I do,
- 47:53marriage, marriage, I don' t leave two years, how is
- 48:00Girl I mean, and now you saw everything. It changed a lot,
- 48:06it changed a lot, a lot, a lot. Now inés this is
- 48:09Miranda and the character has a lot of her. You wrote it thinking of
- 48:16this one. No. No, no, I didn' t write it
- 48:20thinking of East Ines. What I did know because I was interested in was
- 48:23that Miranda' s character sang, had to sing. So this one I
- 48:30thought of some actresses who sang either, that is to say with the type
- 48:36of age and everything, and I was at it when a beautiful friend,
- 48:43very close to her, rough mónica who is also a friend of mine who
- 48:46is a film dressmaker, very well- known, very good, mónica kiss.
- 48:52This one tells me, but why don' t you call Inés.
- 48:54Ines acts like a fucking mother, acts like a bad bitch. Ines sings
- 49:00well, sings very well. Yeah, well, we got together. I
- 49:07went to see Inés, we got together I heard her sing. I loved
- 49:12the way he acts. I knew he was doing well, but we know
- 49:15very few people can doubt that. And there we really started to realize that
- 49:22the script had certain similarities with some things in her life. No. For
- 49:28example, Miranda has two daughters, one with a neurodiversity theme and Inés also
- 49:34has daughters with neurodiversity themes. Inés began singing at the age of fifty to
- 49:46sing professionally. I mean, he went back to something he liked a lot,
- 49:50but he had never developed or loaded, he had postponed, and this
- 49:53movie talked a little bit about that breakdown that sometimes occurs in middle- aged
- 49:59people. A little more than what I' m doing is good. I
- 50:04' m interested in following what I' m doing in this way, or
- 50:08I can change and it seems to me I' m in that very positive
- 50:14sense and I think that everyone can rethink themselves and suddenly, if we'
- 50:17re not happy, then try to make changes in our lives. Well,
- 50:21I thought your previous movie Misteria with the cinema, Seria in the cinema almost
- 50:31said well, I just thought that in that movie because there you said that
- 50:39well, you are, that it doesn' t go everything, no longer
- 50:43endure or more guato, no, I can take more, yes, because
- 50:46and then what was the good news for ball, to redirect and good and
- 50:51paste. A volantazo is not a vision, it' s an o,
- 50:55cinema is a vice, it' s a bug that stings you and it
- 50:59' s hard to get you out and I don' t know I started
- 51:07thinking and I can think of it if suddenly I say this can serve for
- 51:09a script. The pandemic came, the pandemic. I also started thinking about
- 51:13it before the pandemic. The pandemic helped me to refine the script. I
- 51:19was joined by a producer who pulls a lot forward, who is Maxi du
- 51:24Wow, who you interviewed the other day, room fifteen twenty and well,
- 51:30we started moving the project. And well, like every project, it takes
- 51:34time, but this pandemic thing made it longer. But, well, I
- 51:39also accepted some of the cinema. Not because I, in this mystery,
- 51:45in the cinema, said that cinema seemed like a trade of other times,
- 51:50because you have to spend three four years, at least in Argentinas, you
- 51:54have to dedicate it. And today, it' s all so instant,
- 51:59who dedicates four years to it. Well, he' s a writer like
- 52:02that. But I watched my son, for example, Esteban do this series
- 52:07and stuff, and while he had already made four series, I kept seeing
- 52:12where to look for the money from those movies. So I said well,
- 52:17this for another time, it' s not for, it' s not
- 52:22for now. But then I realized I was accepting it and I said good.
- 52:25It will be so, that there are things that one time has to
- 52:30measure in another way, which is what you wanted to do. Is that
- 52:34what you wanted to do? It' s doing what I want to do
- 52:37now. A certain sense said Lik. It' s getting hard. It
- 52:42' s hard because you' ve changed a lot of cinema concepts. The
- 52:46platforms came, came in the pandemic, the entrances, the entrances are in
- 52:55an expensive economic moment to go. But just like the truth I' m
- 53:02telling you, I think the experience of being in the movies is still unique.
- 53:07Yeah, you can' t replace it with silver movies Look, I
- 53:13watch movies or series, but I go to the movies. It' s
- 53:17like, well, I' m going out another way. I' m
- 53:20going out another way. It' s like all the senses focused on that
- 53:23magical moment in your house. You' re home. You' re gonna
- 53:29see it coming, yeah, you' re interrupting me already You' re
- 53:35gonna chike the messages that' s another story? Is it another story?
- 53:35Yeah, other than movies, they' re made with all the technology to
- 53:39spend in theaters. Of course you have five or six speakers that are yes,
- 53:45yes, yes? Is another one designed for that? Are you thinking
- 53:47about that? Yes, for just the experience, as we say now,
- 53:54of cinema in theaters and in community. Well, just with Miranda from Friday
- 54:00to Monday. Miranda' s debut from Friday to Monday was in the framework
- 54:07of the festival The Woman and the Yes, i e, that was the
- 54:10first time it was exhibited in public halls. And that' s where you
- 54:15found out. There, well, I discovered one thing that looks like a
- 54:20joke, because you never know how the movie can fall. I didn'
- 54:24t find out how people were excited to be laughed came out as very happy
- 54:31to see the movie. There was like a climate, like satisfaction with history
- 54:37and that a lot of people told me. I got really excited, I
- 54:43laughed, I loved seeing the parents, I loved seeing the daughters what happened
- 54:49to her. How nice of you to sing Ines this one, how nice
- 54:52of you to be in that one. I found myself pleasantly because it'
- 54:58s a relief, a very good reception. Yeah, I know it was
- 55:02like that. I was in that function and everyone really applauded, liked the
- 55:07story a lot and how it was told. Because it also has even musical
- 55:14touches That' s another play of yours It does go beyond the character'
- 55:22s inés estego. You know that I was always fascinated, I was always
- 55:27fascinated by music movies and movies that have good music or are musical. I
- 55:34remember seeing you see Melody, which is like an icon that fascinated me at
- 55:39the time. There are no musicals. Musicals also didn' t, and
- 55:46well it appeared to me like this movie in Miranda' s story, there
- 55:51had to be a story that was guarding inside her and that came out.
- 55:54And that has to do with music. That' s why I wanted to
- 56:00find you an actress who would sing, not bend it. It didn'
- 56:04t seem clear to me that he really sang and good at it he does
- 56:10magnificently and that, especially topics of Argentine rockers be this carballo and will hoist
- 56:19his Fabi sing. The music was also made by Loli Molina, who is
- 56:23also a singer. It' s a very good music and it really seems
- 56:29to me that the film goes along all the time. The music goes well
- 56:31with the film. I like it, I like the way that 16-
- 56:37year- old band that' s always been in Miranda' s life somehow.
- 56:44Yes, exactly now. Another aspect is that the film approaches the language
- 56:52of young people, of teenagers. In that sense there is Miranda' s
- 56:59experience as the mother of two teenage daughters. I know the axis of the
- 57:02story, not clear, yes, but there' s also a move from
- 57:07you to look for that other audience. Yeah. It seems to me that,
- 57:10in other words, the adolescent audience is an audience that follows the cinema.
- 57:15Maybe the movies, the great productions of villainic superheroes, aren' t
- 57:22going to go. That' s the other thing, that' s all
- 57:25very targeted at people cover and people eat. Come with me, come with
- 57:29me. So, okay. It seemed to me that it might be interesting
- 57:37to make a movie, that it had music, that it had rhythm,
- 57:40that it had a rhythm somehow. I' m gonna tell you a little
- 57:45bit smooth. Not that, no, no, because I can' t
- 57:50have a movie or I can' t make a slower movie in its development
- 57:54that makes it and I like it, but here I wanted something like I
- 57:59was like a more jumping guy. Well, then, starting next Thursday.
- 58:06Thursday yes in rooms or in rooms of Buenos Aires, in rooms of province
- 58:12of Buenos Aires and in rooms of the interior. Aha Miranda from Friday to
- 58:17Monday this film by Maria Victoria Mens, starring Inés Esteves that we strongly recommend
- 58:25go to see in the cinema is ok Te. I' m going to
- 58:29clarify one thing because sometimes people who are leaving already people don' t unite.
- 58:32I led the Dark Chamber, because a lot of people tell me no,
- 58:36but I go to the Dark Chamber. The sweet Mary and the Rania.
- 58:39I directed several movies from my seventh film, a lot of movies one
- 58:45day we' ll talk about that too. Good with Maria Victoria mens here
- 58:49at the studio of Radio Trentopic. We said goodbye then until next Wednesday.
- 58:54We thank you for coming with us and well, as we say yes,
- 59:00but today more than ever you see Argentine cinema until next week and thanks this
- 59:20was GPS audiovisual Radio. We' ll be waiting for you next Wednesday at
- 59:3119 o' clock by radio, thirty- three capi.