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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Special – HEAVY SPOILERS!!! · Multiple Nerdgasm

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guys a bit tired little tired worth it so worth it I watched
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that Independence Day trailer like 50 [Laughter]
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times uh um this is our special uh Star
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Wars the Force awaken special and um I'm pretty sure we're just going to talk
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about spoilers am I right H even just even just
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saying whether we liked it or not is kind of a spoiler at this stage so I
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think if you don't want to hear about it just don't listen to this until you've
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seen we try and keep it to a minimum so I think try and stay away from major
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plot you know what no no no because I don't know that I'll be able to talk
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about some of the stuff that I want to if we don't spoil certain things okay
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you know so um so if you haven't watched it please go see it like you should go
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see it you should have seen it already yeah and then uh hours now what are you
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doing and I'll put well not in America apparently I don't know if it's even out
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yet there at the time we're recording this you know I wonder if there's some
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rich [ __ ] who calculated which time
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zone hit 12 a.m. on the 17th first and
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flew there so he saw it at the earliest possible time I bet that
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happened probably yeah I uh I was warned by well not warned I was asked nicely by
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some people uh who live in the states not to say anything on Facebook about it
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because they didn't have it yet I had so many people at work tell me um if I
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could just not talk to them today yeah yeah that's nothing to do with Star Wars
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though yeah but you imagined that's what it was
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about so what do you think of it okay here's where I am at the
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moment wow omous I enjoyed it just remembering that when you saw The
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Phantom Menace you told me that it was great all right go that was just hyp
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this time I thought into it now I
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enjoyed it I don't like it
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yet and I can explain why all right all right well okay let's find out what Dan
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thought first all I'll give you the overall comment yeah it's not perfect
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but I don't care I loved every second of it
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MH um I agree it's it's definitely not perfect and there are a few things that
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I will mention that I mean that made me
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go come on uh but I really really enjoyed the whole thing and I definitely
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want to watch yeah I really liked it it was it was it was good guys we've seen
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it finally yeah and we can [ __ ] talk about it I wanted to talk about this all
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day talk about it as as of now as of now uh spoilers like so like seriously if
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you haven't watched it go away because we're we're going to ruin it all right Jones Is
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Dead um just want to say I called
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it yeah I had um I had read somewhere
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that Han died in this and um JP when he was around the other day uh we were
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talking beforehand before Jenna got home actually and he said you know uh he dies
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in in the next one and I said don't say
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that when is here cuz I don't think she's read that and I do not want you to
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spoil that because hey I don't know if that's true but it doesn't matter
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because because B shut up that's right yeah so as soon as as soon as that that
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scene began to play out I was like okay yeah goodbye can I just rattle off a
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list of things that I thought worked really well yep yeah please okay number
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one the cast [ __ ] amazing everyone could I just say I have one problem with
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one of the cast members okay go on the general of the New Order a bit bit too
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young to Young he's young yeah yeah yeah I that's the that's my only caveat I
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would say is that he while while he did a good job I don't
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understand why there were like two 21 year olds running it well
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that's when he's actually Kor Ren's talking to him and he goes should we
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maybe bring clones in and he sort of and he goes know my guys's been trained
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since birth and it's sort of they're older than you that was a nice little tip of the
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Hat though yes yeah yeah also I'll point
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out that uh Adam Driver is in his 30s so he looks 12 I know a lot of people were
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commenting about how like he's this like angsty teenager and I'm like he's
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[ __ ] the same age as us yeah the actor is but right but I supposed to be
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quite young right maybe yeah I he must be if if you told
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me that that character is 35 I'd be like what the [ __ ] is he acting like that
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yeah I suppose I guess I assume they're all supposed to be about the same age
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Finn Ray and um yeah and kylo the Next
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Generation yeah exactly all right so um so that was the only casting issue you
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had is that right Luke I think so yeah okay everyone else loved
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them all right what's next on your list Dan uh [ __ ] It Felt Like a Star Wars movie
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mhm absolutely like it it looked like a
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Star Wars movie and it sounded like one
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and I just like [ __ ] I five minutes in I just turned to H and I was like it
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doesn't suck yeah you could tell the tone was
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right straight away yes the tone exactly was spot on the jokes worked because so
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good like they were even the ones that were a bit goofy were great like I
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really there's some of my favorite jokes in it were I loved it when bb-8 gave him
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a thumbs up yes yes even though I was like because you know and I honestly at
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the time thought in the C you know what if George had tried to do that same joke
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he would have found a way buck up he tried to do those things in the prequels
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with R2 and they just didn't work he just he just he just doesn't have what
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it takes well for Stars by the prequels weak knew exactly what R2 could and
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couldn't do or did
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we yeah yeah he does a bunch of [ __ ] in the prequels that came out of nowhere
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he's got [ __ ] jets in him yeah that's right oh he can fly I can think of a few
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times and that would have come in handy yeah bar for instance yeah that's right
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now he just falls in the water because he's he for no good reason and um and
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one other joke that I really enjoyed was
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uh when they get to staka base and Han says to Finn what did you do here and
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he's like sanitation he sanitation I thought you said you know how to get the
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shields down he's like I was bluffing we can use the force yeah go Force doesn't
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doesn't work like that that was that was great yeah yeah lots of good moments
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like that that's I think that's what the prequels missed with the comedy stuff
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was there were nice moments that weren't like they didn't draw attention to
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themselves it were people acting like humans being funny
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yeah yeah I think the comedy was good and yeah like I said the overall feel it
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was dark but it wasn't like oppressive no
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yeah and I just like how dark off sorry l i just like how like you get the
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opening the opening scroll and then action which is what we now it's just
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straight into it here's a bit of an idea what's happening and now we'll tell you
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what's happening now here's Max von but you forgotten him see here's yeah no
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that's my other thing that I liked about this right not everything they brought
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up is now finished like yeah who the [ __ ] is Max von sida's character clearly
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he's some important dude yeah that's not what this story is about we're just
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littering this world with really interesting things apparently um as well
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because JJ is not directing or writing the next one that's right Ryan Johnson
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is and apparently uh Ryan Johnson received the dailies from the force
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awakens uh as well he was sent them every day and he would send JJ aams
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notes um just to like not not like critiquing I think but just asking him
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hey can you give a little nod to something in this scene yeah cuz I'm
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going to follow it up I'm
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is a pub yeah that's right no one making a
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fish and chip shop next to that Pub yeah it's just forest and then the
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[ __ ] Cana yeah yeah great who did Simon Peg
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play uh I believe he was the the the guy in the junk shop that she sells things
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to he might have been yeah yeah that's I think so MH
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mhm yeah all right well uh do we want to talk about some things that we didn't
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like sure U or not so much we didn't like or just that I
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thought I thought that another Death Star yeah was unnecessary in the end of
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every movie you have to blow up something round yeah it could have been
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I think I felt like the the big bad could have been something different and
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also I thought the way that it work have to blow it up for this story to have
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been resolved too um no I actually quite liked it though yeah I he was playing it
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safe because you know what it was fine yeah it was disappoint there's a lot of
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safe in this that weapon is better than a death star no it is it's a bit
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ridiculous fly there whereas that thing just I'm going to aim and shoot yeah it
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shoots through hyperspace yeah um one thing I found a bit weird is how fast
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they now travel through hyperspace yeah I agree actually this a lot of stuff
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like that in this uh they sped up the way things happen for land out of
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hyperspace as well mate you can do that yeah you can uh you can fly out of a
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hanger straight into hyperspace even though it ain't like DUS and crops
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apparently it is yeah it is just like that and not only that you don't have to
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train to fight with a lightsaber um no um they have both
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trained yeah I know what you mean but I
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think and I'm okay with it I'm just but I felt like I thought um Finn versus the
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Stormtrooper was cool because as a stormtrooper himself he would have been
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trained in martial combat right I thought him versus kylo when kylo had
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been shot and everything I was okay with that but then I
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thought I don't know I know clearly Ren is supposed to be very strong with the
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force and like said I loved the [ __ ] fight scene it was amazing but I did
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feel like it was very sudden that she she having literally never touched a
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lightsaber before in her life was able to keep Pace I think that's why you
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always had like he was injured but she always had that stick with her so she
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has been fighting with that so that's where yeah no that's fair like I I like
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I said I didn't dislike it in fact I [ __ ] loved that whole sequence great
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sequence great like when he's trying to get the lightsaber and then it goes to
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her instead that was great and you know what I like best about that sequence
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right and it's not even the fact that they tone down the [ __ ] Su assaults
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and [ __ ] which I I do I do appreciate [ __ ] yeah that was a great fight scene
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but when when they were fighting I wasn't even sure that I wanted one side
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or the other to win because Carlo Ren is a really interesting character yeah like
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I didn't want him to die Darth Maul style you know what I mean no exactly in
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fact I was concerned at one point when at the end I was like did she kill him
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yeah like CU I don't want him to be dead like I need more from him you know one
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thing about corent that voice is stupid
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really with the Mason I just I like it because I like his character a lot
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because of that in as well like he really just wants to be Darth Vader but
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he's not as good he just does a poor imitation yeah and so I feel like cuz
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his voice is like a poor man's Darth also keep asking like why does this guy
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not have to wear a uniform yeah he's just like actually one
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of my other favorite funny scenes is when he Chucks that massive tantrum and
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starts smashing everything two Storm Troopers W they walk down the hallway
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and they hear and they slowly walk back the other way that was probably favorite
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moment yeah um one another thing I sort of didn't quite like or I think just
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miss the Mark was the music yeah there wasn't a whole lot of
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memorable stuff apart from every time one of the old themes came in I um I
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really like like I was like oh but then yeah I don't know there no real strong
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like Imperial March or anything I'll say this though boys because I noticed that
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too and and it did irk me but that kind
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of film score is dated now they don't do
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fil that anymore yeah no I it would have sounded retro if they' done it and I
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think they were trying avoid that that's fair that's fair and to John Williams
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credit like I guess he's able to if that is true then he's able to
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to do both yeah because he's he's like known for these iconic yes exactly right
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like kind of motifs go guy motifs is not what people do anymore you know what I
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mean like in Indiana Jones the Indiana Jones music starts anytime there's
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action yeah right did that now people like okay you wrote one song I get it
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yeah yeah I really like Kye Ren because he's like uh he's like he's dangerous
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like he's actually I think he's more dangerous than Darth Vader sociopath cuz
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he's just [ __ ] yeah like he's really unpredictable okay and one thing I they
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sort of set it up that I don't think he can come back to the light
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side no like to kill your father in Cold
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Blood is a bit how do you go back from that also if you're going to change your name
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it's like if your name's Ben and literally anything is Ren really the
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stretch of your imagination maybe they put him on the
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spot so also how did you guys like the fact
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that Klo Ren is Han Le's son because I know we've talked on this
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podcast about not really liking how linked gets in these Star Wars movies no
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I think it worked because of the the
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Luke training them thing I think thats fine yeah and I I I think the if it had
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just been see that this is clever version of it where you've got like Han
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Leia and Luke Luke's training New Jedi Han and Leia have a kid um the kid
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learns about his grandfather who is who's Luke and Le's father and becomes
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interested in the dark side of the force that's cleverer than just [ __ ] oh
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related yeah oh good a chewy oh good day yeah my name's Han you know yeah yeah
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anyway maybe I'll see you again someday wink yeah that's right I mean even the
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fact that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father is a stretch when it
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was a complete fluke that a the droids
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fell to tne B yeah that he happened to buy them C that the one he was going to
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buy blue up first like that was the whole thing was that Luke was not
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involved in this yeah yes I saw someone said in a forum today that there's a lot
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of um coincidence drives the plot in this and then someone else commented
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next and said have you not seen Star Wars people say that a lot yeah when
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right critiquing this film like have you not seen one of these before I'm glad
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they limited it to that to the one uh
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brother sister son relationship who is R so far I'm hoping she's just no onebody
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that's what I hope too and if she's anyone's relative I hope she's Star-Lord
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sister right and nothing more Star-Lord from [ __ ] Guardians of the Galaxy
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yeah yeah okay yeah with her with her story cuz that you don't we still don't
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know anything about her except she was left she was waiting for people to come
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back and she's even stronger than the force than kylo Ren be so if she's
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Luke's daughter though honestly it's too easy she we saw see I need to see it
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again because uh those Visions she had when she went to pick up the lightsaber
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were really interesting but I I was like trying to pause it all like it was there
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was a lot to it and when it looks like
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she's being left on jaku and somebody is with her and it looked like somebody who
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is dressed like kylo Ren with his voice or like a voice like that talking is
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that what everyone else saw or well in a lot of there was colorin in a lot of
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those Visions yeah so maybe it was not that's why I'm thinking that somehow
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there might be a bit of a relation there it just seems weird that she would
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be having visions of and I get it does make sense that I
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mean if it's if it's genetic like you know like don't say it man
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don't the if the force is strong in your family then it makes sense that it would
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draw these people together yes not only that I was thinking last night like
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something like Game of Thrones for example right they're all
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related you know what I mean like literally yeah but like
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like sagas like this tend to become
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about families anyway sure yeah yeah you know what
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though this I'm not going to say this is made up for the prequels right because that's
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probably an overshot but it's at least
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restored my faith in the story and has made me stop questioning why I like Star
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Wars yeah because I started to think oh [ __ ] maybe that was just a Flash and
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a pan no no no it's not this is an incredible
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world with stories to tell and then it got me thinking that I can kind of see
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where George Lucas was going with the prequels too going yeah yeah yeah once
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the war starts there's just crazy action and [ __ ] but the leader to that is all
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about politics and personal relationships and that is kind of
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interesting I wish he'd just maybe written his own side novels or something
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instead of making them Canon yeah or let somebody
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else maybe don't shoot your first script yeah yeah or start planning it
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before you've written the the script would be and also I mean he did have a
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very uh a negative relationship with with the
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fandom yes like he clearly didn't like the same things about Star Wars that
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everybody else likes that's right and that's perfectly obvious now when he's
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come out and said oh it's not my cup of tea but the fans are love it and we do
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we do well I don't love it yet can I say actually one thing one
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other thing disappointed me uh was
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fasma who was in in it for about 60 seconds like total everyone I
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like but you also look you don't know what happened to her no no no I'm I'm
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sure she's going to be she will be back and I love the fact that and they
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foreshadowed this early when she was like who gave you permission to take
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your helmet off I'm like they're not going to show her without a helmet are
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they they're not going to do it they're gonna be like [ __ ] you we know you
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recognize her voice we ain't gonna show you yeah I just thought it like when
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they this said though they said they were going to stuffer down the garbage
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disposal and then she just wasn't in it anymore yeah and I'm like she even make
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it off the [ __ ] planet one thing I really really loved was pretty much the
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story of Han and Leia about how like he'd gone back to his old smuggling ways
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and Leia had sort of thrown herself into the resistance which makes total sense
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to their characters because they were torn apart after what happened with
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their song yeah I think that was just great [ __ ]
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man Harrison forb was pretty great in this I got to say yeah and I think they
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probably pushed his character to the absolute limit of what I would have
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allowed them to do yeah maybe they overstepped it a tiny bit and having him
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in the exact outfit was maybe a stretch although I like when she said he said oh
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you've changed your hair and she's like you're wearing the same jacket yeah like new
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jacket yeah it was some nice moments
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yeah yeah so yeah when he first showed
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up I was like oh oh come on yeah that's
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right don't do don't [ __ ] this up oh Oh I thought it was it was a bit convenient
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actually that they that they flew right past him not only that the the the
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Millennium Falcon was like there in the first place that was like such a nice
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reveal though yeah oh yeah I know not I yeah it was great but it was also like
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why is that there come on and then also handled so well agree they sort of
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explained it but didn't go into we don't need all the details but I sort of liked
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it well no he stole it then he stole it from him and it's nice again it's
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another one of those things where if if George had tried to do it it would have
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been like that's what I was gonna say it's not that I liked it but I thought
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they constantly did things I didn't like in ways that I did like yeah yeah yeah
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they made them okay yeah so it was like oh this moment probably doesn't need to
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be here guys oh you kind of you made it
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work okay yeah and they got that stuff out of the way now and I think the best
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thing about this movie is that it sets everything up
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for the the the next chapter and we don't need anymore that stuff now that's
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right absolutely so we can we can proceed now with with all new things
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like please don't try and tie anything together anymore we don't need it there
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were quite a few things that this is movie where it's weird you have to
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actually think about some of the things that happen which is um with Ray when I
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thought when she just started using like the mind control and things I thought
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that was a bit strange but then when I like how would she know any of this but
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then when you think about it when Kyer Ren's trying to get information from her
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and she had that automatic self-defense and went into his mind she would have
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picked up on a lot of things from that connection she knew she knew stuff about Luke and
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the Legends as well so maybe I assumed she was like maybe it's maybe I can do
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that speaking of which right do you know that somewhere deep in space there's a
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planet right with a set of stairs that
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go up and up and up to a lookout it's
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the first Jedi Temple there's no [ __ ] Temple up there that's a real place apparently
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they're really they're really pissed off that they oh really that they filmed
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there yeah they and they probably won't be allowed to film there again it's like
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uh it's an island off the coast of irel going to have a lot of yeah it's the
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iseland and they're going to have a lot of nerds going there now yeah they um for their
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economy but I was waiting when she was holding out that lightsaber to him and
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he was staring back and she was holding it out and he was staring back I just
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was waiting for her to go if you're not going to take this I'll just put my arm
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down for him to go how old are you one
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thing the second he took his um his
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cloak off his hood off I just saw Rick
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M have you seen Rick B before he died he had that sort of long hair in the bead
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and that's who I
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saw that would have been great actually my when he pulled the hood down I was
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like he looks way better than I expected he was going to look under that hood
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yeah yeah that's right like kudos to my what sort of paycheck do you think he
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got well it would have been a three picture deal but you're right he wasn't
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utilized much in this for someone who was the central plot character
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arguably stares intensely you know what you know what else I liked though I
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liked that Ren is attractive but not
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distractingly so yeah like she's not like
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unbelievably like like some [ __ ] superm model living on this planet that
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you were like well she probably could have done a bit better for herself just
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based purely on her looks right she just she looks like a normal pretty girl yeah
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exactly yeah who lives in a [ __ ] hollowed out at-8 I think you'll find
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that's an
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Adat no no no no Luke not anymore [ __ ]
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you oh uh I didn't know if I was going to like
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bb8 and I do yeah he's a little charmer
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I was like after watching him for a bit
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I was like yeah the way he moves is really good at conveying emotion and I
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can see why they did that yeah apparently there were early sketches
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back in the 70s for a Droid like that and then they just had no idea how they
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were going to build it right because he's a practical effect right yeah yeah I believe so
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yeah so yeah no I like him yeah I like I like
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him so much I I bought a little pop vinyl one
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today I like that little uh that little
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bartender of course you did [ __ ] you know have you have you noticed on the
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poster right you know the one you the one with the little goggles right yeah
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on the poster if you look up the you know they've got all the people like
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it's a Star Wars poster so all the people are on there in like a in a
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collage Y and she's up the back kind of behind R2 and if you're not looking
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closely it looks like Anakin like as in what Jake Lloyd
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Anakin let me see because it's got with the little goggles oh yeah right you
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know what I mean yeah yippee oh God I hate those so much you know what's funny
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though I was talking to some younger people today who
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Youngs I saw a great meme the other day that was just that was a still from A
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New Hope where Obi-Wan gives Luke the lightsaber on T and he goes this was
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your father's lightsaber he killed 30 children with
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it but um the young people saw them in
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order they saw episode one first yeah right and none of them have a problem
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with the prequels because there's no kind of comparison to be made yeah I
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think it's like um cuz like I I rewatched Return of
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the Jedi recently and there's some stuff in there that I didn't that didn't I
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didn't notice that it was [ __ ] when I was little and I look at it now and I'm
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like oh boy yeah like yeah I know Ewoks are pretty
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[ __ ] stupid Ewoks all together it's [ __ ] ridiculous train [ __ ]
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soldiers getting killed by little things throwing that whole sequence looking at
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it now I'm like what are the Troopers doing shoot them yeah yeah you've got
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armor on you're fine koalas are throwing
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rocks they are bar and they spend like half an hour not doing any damage to any
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of the the atss yeah and then yeah yeah some stuff like that but then
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you got all the stuff in the throne room with the emperor
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which if that wasn't there I don't know man that's some of the best [ __ ] in Star
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Wars absolutely it is so I know that uh Luke I can't
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remember what you thought about this but I know Matt you made some criticisms
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when we saw the trailer of kylo Ren's hilted lightsaber yeah I still I still
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have some criticisms about it it looks cool I thought you saw how he actually
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was able to use it well he burned stabbed fin in the shoulder with
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it yeah yeah but I mean he's literally never fought anyone else with a
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lightsaber as far as we know why would he be fighting people with a lightsabers
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no one's got them so I don't know I also like it that his isn't all smooth like
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the others no it's kind a shitty crazy energy yeah yeah it's aggressive like he
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just made it himself and he was like [ __ ] this yeah it kind of sums up his
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character he's just an angry he's like an emo kid yeah like really [ __ ] this
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my Angry lightsaber yeah that's right [ __ ] you
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Dad it's not bad it's [Laughter]
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Ren yeah no I I like I like the that aspect of it I still don't quite like I
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said the it's not effective for blocking because look at it you could just if
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if for for one they don't seem to slide down each other like a sword wood like
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lightsabers if it did slide down it would hit the mechanism not the actual
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exactly yeah I actually think it is there just as an extra weapon like cuz
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they do end up getting if you watch in every single fight there is that moment
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where they are locked together look it now that I've seen his
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character I I'm okay with it because like I can totally see him going you
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know what's cooler than a normal lightsaber this [ __ ] lightsaber I
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made yeah with the things coming out the side Darth V didn't have one of
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them yeah so exactly I can so I'm okay with it I still don't
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think it's functionally that sound it's very dangerous it's extremely
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dangerous but he seems to do especially for someone who just [ __ ] smashes
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things with it whenever he has a tanty oh man I [ __ ] love that bit where
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he's talking to the the the Imperial officer and the guy says something and
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he just [ __ ] pulls him across the room into his [ __ ] hand and starts
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choking him I was like wow yeah I like
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KY Ren yeah he's good he's real like I said just feels more dangerous than
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Vader ever did because Vader's like calculated whereas Klo Ren's just like
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[ __ ] chaos yeah and it's like uh a million times better than Count
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Dooku yeah exactly God can't in fact I can't
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remember a single scene in this movie that involved people just sitting at a desk
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chatting no which in my memory is pretty much what all of the prequels
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are yeah oh can I say that their plan
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came together very quickly I really like
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that they didn't drag yeah we we've we've been here before yeah we know what
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to do I also one thing I did question was that when they get to Star Killer
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base and Finn reveals that he was in sanitation and he doesn't actually know
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anything his plan still worked like yeah
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so he he did know like yeah I questioned that a little but then I was like don't
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worry about it don't too much into it yeah okay now oh po po is great as well
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oh yes absolutely character I want to see more of him because he wasn't in it
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too much but he's he's great yeah he's very charismatic because in a way he's
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the new Han Solo because he's the kind of yeah lovable Rogue but he's also
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actually a good guy as opposed to an solo who has you know questionable
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selfish motives they're all very charismatic I think that's the that's
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what's I think that's what made this overall so good even though even with
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the shitty dialogue and everything this still had shitty dialog Star Wars yes it
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did and and it's it's the same as I think they they they did it perfectly
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with the originals because like uh Harrison Ford and Hamill and K Fisher
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they made it work yeah and I think these guys had the same like all of the
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dialogue even when it was shitty it worked yeah and then yeah I think that's
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what was missing with definitely some lines that could have been cut here and
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there that overexplained things that were going on this m is very guilty of
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that like before Han and Leia had that conversation about how they divorced
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because their son turned bad I knew they divorced because their son turned bad
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yeah you you could figure that out yeah I got it yeah they didn't need to have a
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whole scene where they re-explained it
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yeah okay so now the reason why I enjoyed it but I don't like it yet yet
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yes it's because I'm a Star Wars fan go on okay okay now out of the three of us
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I'm I I'll say I'm probably the biggest Star Wars fan okay I've read all the
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books and everything and with the extended Universe which is no longer
35:41
Cannon and gone MH Yep this is why I'm having trouble liking it there are still
35:47
some um some books that are Canon the new ones yeah the new ones are coming
35:50
out but so like cuz star is very big part of my life when I got had cancer
35:54
when I was young that's about the same time timy NOS came out so that's what I
35:58
read when I was in hospital throughout like all St so that's it's very close
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EMP to the Empire and then just from there everything else yeah got me
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through hospital and cancer so it's all great that's all gone so I've got these
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characters in my mind I've got Han and wedge and tiles and all these characters
36:18
that I've grown up with and love who now don't exist and now I have to watch this
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new movie with these characters and just have to let go of what I think they are
36:29
and accept that this is who they are now right I see so this is why I'm
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struggling to like it at yeah I know I will at the moment I'm just yeah well
36:39
look uh Han and Le have not said by the way he's an only child so you
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know he could have his twin sister and then his younger brother exactly yeah
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except Ben is Luke Skywalker son yes
36:53
that's right it is a bit weird that Han had a kid and said to L who would you
36:58
name this after who are your Idols people that I that's right Han would have named it
37:05
Lando really like I hope he comes back for one of them I know Lando back in
37:11
fing I hope he's Finn's [Laughter]
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father you heard it here
37:24
first oh and who who was the son of MCE
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window yeah that's
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right oh dear yeah no I really enjoyed this and I can't wait to see it I'm
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going to see it again tomorrow night a there was one other thing I was
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going to say I can't remember what it was I like that they only have x-wings
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and Tie fighters now yeah that's right
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there and is and I mean like the Tie fighters is one type of TIE fighter as
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far as I've I saw in this film yeah no tie intercepts to be fair I think in the
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first film you didn't see a lot of variance either though right and it was
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only X-Wing y-wing TIE fighter yeah it's almost like in different parts of the
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Galaxy they've got specific ships and then
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um uh Jedi they introduced the a-wing and the b-wing and the b-wing right okay
38:20
well yeah the Rebellion doesn't have any of those anymore um they've just got
38:24
x-wings why would you just x-wings the best one why would you worry about
38:27
anything else Fair Point fair point when you are about to steal one
38:33
you've got to detach it first oh yeah and they're two they're two Cedar Tie
38:37
fighters now which yeah which is good because they can shoot backwards but
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it's also convenient for the plot but I like them it's all right let it go Matt
38:48
no no no it's it's it's gone yeah it's fine yeah there's not enough wrong with
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this that I'm actually that's right for
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every one thing that's marginally bad
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there's two things that are excellent that just absolutely cancel it out can I
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say also I was very grateful for how little
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C3 did yes because he showed up and I laughed yeah and I was like [ __ ] and
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he's such an irritating [ __ ] and then I was like oh God is he going to be in
39:22
this more and he and and he just wasn't and he yeah he showed up for a few
39:26
laughs and then he went away you probably don't recognize me because of the red
39:30
arm yeah and then lat like I really do have to get a new arm but like how
39:35
they're talking already and he just like Steps he's like Han Solo yeah yeah
39:41
that's but the more and more think about it is I've just seen the original Star
39:46
Wars again yes it's the same mely is it was he played it very safe
39:53
yeah with uh that kind of thing he was like oh you like Star Wars here it is y
39:58
although I will say there was stuff that I didn't expect to see like for example
40:02
when at the very start when Finn's one of the Storm Troopers and his you I
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assume friend or the other guy gets shot and he gets the bloody fingerprints down
40:10
his helmet yes I was like wow like that's that's intense I like that uh I
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didn't yeah I didn't expect it to go that heavy on that stuff and then again
40:21
with um when kylo Ren shows up like he
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was he was pretty brutal like with the demonstrations of power and whatnot oh
40:31
the way stopped the Blaster Bol that was cool yes yeah he's like [ __ ] you got the
40:37
force yeah yeah pretty cool oh yeah that
40:41
one other thing that I didn't like I'm okay with it because it was
40:47
necessary was when Rey
40:52
did finish the fight and then all of a sudden their chasm appeared in between
40:58
them to prevent her because they like we need to make sure she's not going to
41:03
kill him how do we how do we end this scene in a way probably would yeah how
41:08
do we end this in a way where she can't kill him because yeah that's look there
41:13
were a couple of DSX Maas in this movie like I said I'm okay with it because I
41:18
know it was necessary and I loved it so much other than that that it's okay but
41:22
not if if it had been a bad film man I mean those evil squids if they weren't
41:27
you it they would never have gotten away from Han's compound either yeah yeah in
41:33
fact that I mean that whole thing was a little unnecessary anyway yeah um did
41:38
anyone else get the feeling that Han Solo wasn't originally going to try and
41:42
bring kler ran back but he was planning to kill
41:47
him maybe I got that feeling every time that sort of they were talking about him
41:53
and layers like bring him back I just got felt there was this look where he's
41:57
yep I'll do that where it just felt like he was actually planning to not bring
42:00
him back and try and turn him but to kill him yeah
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maybe I don't I felt like he was kind of like oh [ __ ] about it like yeah I'll
42:11
have to say he even said that like maybe maybe he won't be there maybe he'll be
42:16
out that's right well she even said Carrie Fisher even said like go and talk
42:19
to him he's like [ __ ] Luke talk to him what can I
42:26
do uh but there just I I do like the fact that it reminds me so much of the
42:32
original movies now not the prequels cuz there's there's a good there's a good
42:35
side resistance and the bad side of New Order there were some government but we
42:41
just got rid of them which is the same thing that happened in the original Star
42:44
Wars the emperor desol the Senate this time they destroyed the Republic but
42:48
they got glossed over a little bit but I was like all right fine they glossed
42:52
over it in the original Star Wars as well no I know with alderan blew up and
42:56
then Le was like no oh well yeah I'm sure this doesn't have any
43:02
bearing on the political uh climate of
43:05
the entire galaxy yeah yeah because was I assume it wasn't corant that they blew
43:11
up but it looked like it someone somebody said it was not it was um some
43:16
other planet mon mothma's home planet I don't know how they know that it looked
43:20
a lot like corant to me yeah somebody on Reddit who doesn't know to me it's the
43:25
Republic and they'll are quite a few planets that were destroyed I I thought
43:30
it looked a lot like corus to be cor and cuz I wondered if it
43:35
was symbolic where because of of them destroying the prequels yeah exactly
43:41
here's the place most of the prequels took up oh whoops it's completely
43:48
destroyed not the city Planet yeah I know that's right oh well
43:54
no more skyscrapers yeah yeah there was a couple of planets
44:00
wasn't it was like a system a whole system that's a pretty intense weapon
44:05
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah guys I just [ __ ] just really
44:12
liked it like I'm so happy because i' kind of already decided I had to like it
44:18
anyway you know what I mean and I was excited but then when I got to the
44:22
cinema I was like what if this sucks
44:27
because I as well I I wanted to watch it again all day today and that hasn't H
44:33
that hasn't happened with one of them in a little while no offense but I don't
44:37
want to be talking to you guys right now I want to be watching that The Phantom
44:41
Menace uh I watched a bunch of times in the cinema because trying to make the
44:46
most of it and then the others I I I only saw her once movies went to the
44:50
midnight screening and then went yep I've seen it that was it and I I've
44:55
actually not watched Revenge the Sith again neither I've only seen it once um
45:02
and I've looked up clips from it to remind myself cuz I told I remember I
45:05
said that I've rewatched a clip of that the new scene did I say did I tell you
45:11
this um and when I watched the clip of it on YouTube I was like oh it's not as
45:17
bad as it was in my head like in my head in the cinema like I was ashamed for the
45:24
film and that was the best of the three no but then I I found out afterwards
45:29
that it was changed for the DVD release oh right because cuz I remember being in
45:36
the cinema and that and that that
45:40
no and everyone being
45:44
like yeah you found a way to ruin it
45:47
more yeah like it was really bad yeah like so so if you've only seen it on DVD
45:53
be thankful because yeah it was changed apparently it was worse speaking of
45:58
really bad and I know this is slightly off topic but I saw the gods of Egypt
46:02
trailer before Star Wars and if if I thought it looked [ __ ] awful on the
46:08
little screen I watched it on initially it does not hold up to a cinema screen
46:13
baffled by that film man oh God it looks awful I saw the trailers
46:19
for uh Batman versus Superman okay Captain America Civil
46:24
War uh X-Men apocalypse and there was one other oh no I thought
46:31
I was going to see the new Star Trek again but I didn't it was something
46:34
else uh I'd seen them all already oh uh Independence Day of course oh wow I had
46:39
far less trailers than that yeah right and you paid a lot less too [ __ ] you
46:45
yeah I did it was worth every penny of those
46:49
8 oh you know what uh you know how Dan you would know from living here every
46:55
Christmas uh movie es from the from the
46:58
old landlords this year go class mate oh
47:03
okay I see playing favorites now and yeah guess what bloody film I'm going to
47:09
see at Gold Class is it a is it a film you might have seen already yeah it's
47:13
probably one I'll probably see it again at reading up the road here before I go
47:17
to go class [ __ ] Jenna's going tomorrow she's off work yeah qu had
47:21
tickets to it again today I'm got I'm going Friday night and then I've also
47:26
got got people from work want to want to take me and yeah okay I've got all this
47:31
stuff on almost tempted to see it in either IMAX or in
47:36
3D oh that's the other thing I I wish I hadn't seen it in 3D I saw it in 3D as
47:42
well I really wish that it had been 2D because I had to fight against the 3D a
47:47
couple of times and I feel like I actually think I would have enjoyed it
47:51
even more if I hadn't had to fight against that you saw 3D I yeah we had to
47:57
there was any but the start of it in the 3D I had trouble focusing I had trouble
48:03
with the darkness figh various points yeah so yeah
48:09
tomorrow in 2D and then I'll go Gold Class A few times I think can you do
48:14
gold class in 2D yeah all right
48:19
good all right well I guess um oh one thing I am so excited for the new Star
48:24
Wars movies coming out now Rogue one comes out next year I think I don't know
48:29
I think I'm going to be half as excited like next year Rogue one comes out I'll
48:33
be like yep go on a seat on the first day and everything but I'm not going to
48:36
be as excited as when episode eight comes out I found out actually I thought
48:41
that they were going to do them every Christmas but apparently they're not no
48:44
mid it's every second year I think no no no Rogue one comes out uh next December
48:49
but then episode 8 comes out May 2017 oh wow it's not yeah it's not long between
48:56
them because because uh it's the anniversary of episode 4 apparently ah
49:02
yeah it is 20th of May yeah 9 77 30
49:07
years wow 30 years 40 years 40 years man
49:11
40 years I can't count older than [ __ ]
49:15
yeah yep but yeah just George this is what you could have
49:20
done [ __ ] all right don't need to rub it
49:23
in he doesn't care anymore no he he's just evidently I heard about he did an
49:30
interview on the red carpet the premiere and he's oh yeah it's a movie what are
49:34
you doing now oh I'm just making some little films and there oh anything we'd
49:38
know about he's no I'm just making them for me my friends and they you know what
49:44
I'm glad yeah because that's what he wants that's what he said he was always
49:48
gonna do that's true um I I genuinely hope that he's happy actually I meant to
49:55
look this up but I that he released a film only in Asia really yeah let me
50:00
look up see what that is because I genuinely think I I feel bad for him
50:05
like we joke and stuff and and I do you know joke about it a lot and make fun of
50:09
him but I do actually feel really bad for him because yeah I mean this is his
50:13
thing you know to to be the creator of something like this and have it get away
50:19
from you so badly yeah must be really really painful I
50:24
think like he doesn't like Star Wars for the same reason everybody else likes it
50:31
and Everyone likes it so much for like completely different reasons it's kind
50:35
of like did you watch indie game the movie uh no not yet that the interview
50:41
with Jonathan Blow yeah where he talks about how he made braid and then braid
50:45
came out and people giving it all these great reviews but they were talking
50:48
about how great it was wrong because they weren't talking about what he
50:52
thought was good about it they were talking about other things that he was
50:55
like no no no that's not it's good and he used to go in and argue with people
51:00
online I think it's a lot like that yeah absolutely I reckon they would get along
51:05
actually they probably wouldn't they'd hate yeah
51:11
yes so we got anything else I'm sure we're going to think of more stuff this
51:14
is going to be happening for the rest of the year beginning of next year get
51:20
we're doing our we're doing our best of the year uh next I have a contender
51:27
I'm not going to give anything away but I mean I'm I assume we're going to
51:30
mention this movie at some point so I'm sure we'll think of some more
51:35
stuff to talk about if there's anything uh listeners if you let us know what you
51:38
thought of the film um and uh you know write in uh podcast multip nerdgasm
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51:50
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51:54
upset that you got a lot of spoilers we gave gave you a warning it's I'm going
51:58
to put it in big letters on the on this when I upload It
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spoilers so is that it we got we're done we're done we're done thank you for
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listening we hope you enjoyed the show I do hope you enjoyed the show I did the
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