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Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff National Championship W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan · The Locker Room

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  Speaker 3: Can I just that's just nervous energy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? What's on your mind? What are you feeling going
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  Speaker 3: A whole lotsh A whole lot part happy, part sad,
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  Speaker 3: part anger, part bittersweet. But the first thing I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: since we're on the spirit of this is our last
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  Speaker 3: show of the season is I really feel bad for
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  Speaker 3: there's someone who just happened upon this video. They're like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: on all year. I don't get most of the inside jokes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I haven't watched this all year.
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  Speaker 3: Think about what they missed. They missed. They missed the
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  Speaker 3: whole Nebraska thing. They missed they always missed the Nebraska thing.
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  Speaker 3: They missed the coaching search carousel. They missed the whole Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: They missed the bus and Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: They did miss the buss and Bowl. They missed the
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  Speaker 3: I would encourage people to go back and watch the
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  Speaker 3: previous shows.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. You know, the biggest thing they missed camaraderie.
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  Speaker 1: Vibes, friendship, yeah, trench warfare, seeing energy, feeling energy, feeling
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  Speaker 1: like they're a part of the energy.
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  Speaker 3: What they missed is love.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that one feeling you get as a small
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  Speaker 2: child when your mom you're cold, comes to you and
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  Speaker 2: what wraps a little blanket around you. That's the feeling
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  Speaker 2: that this show is willing to give you a weekend
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  Speaker 2: and week out, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then you don't get it again until you do a
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  Speaker 3: college football YouTube show decades later.
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  Speaker 2: Or.
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  Speaker 1: Until somebody tells you they're zooming in from their hotel
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  Speaker 1: at two thirty in the morning, and that right there,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good feeling something'd be missing out on. What
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  Speaker 1: does Willy C mean by that?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the good news. That is the good news if
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time somebody is watching the show.
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  Speaker 2: Luckily there's enough drama to happen in this show, because
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  Speaker 2: Josh Pate's name was thrown in an absolute blender on
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  Speaker 2: Bustle with the Boys' most recent episode.
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  Speaker 3: With Josh Payton not on the bus, with Josh Pyton
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  Speaker 3: on the there was a JP there to defend me,
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  Speaker 3: but it was not me.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, go ahead, I would like to give
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  Speaker 2: I don't have I was in Vegas, fighting for my life.
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  Speaker 2: I would love for both of you to have the floor.
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  Speaker 2: I can sit back as a third party if I
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  Speaker 2: need to mediate anything what happened. If JP wasn't there,
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  Speaker 2: all I'm saying is it could have been catastrophic, not
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  Speaker 2: only for you two, but for us as well, because
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  Speaker 2: there was a there was a painting being illustrated by
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  Speaker 2: one individual that I thought to myself, Oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: and the words came out of my mouth, is Josh
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  Speaker 2: Pate for the boys?
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  Speaker 3: And I called you Judas on the internet?
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  Speaker 2: Did you so I may take.
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  Speaker 3: It plural of Judas?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that publicly.
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  Speaker 3: I asked what the plural of Judas is, which implied
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  Speaker 3: that I was kind of labeling both of you. But
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  Speaker 3: it's not closed. I wrote that in pencil, not penn
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  Speaker 3: So I am prepared to have it out now. I
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  Speaker 3: have a grin on my face. William has a grin
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  Speaker 3: on his face. Those are the kind of grins you
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  Speaker 3: have when you think morally you're in the right. Both
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  Speaker 3: of us think we're in the right. Okay, I'm willing
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  Speaker 3: to I'm going to defer. I'm willing to take the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Second won the toss.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, may I add both of us think we're
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  Speaker 1: morally in the right, and we also understand the other side.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go as far as to say
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  Speaker 3: I understand your side yet.
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  Speaker 2: That was the first olive branch. That was the first
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  Speaker 2: dollar branch that was swatted away from one Justice brother. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you can't get a time outcess earlier we just said
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  Speaker 2: the coin toss. You just got the kick. He's the
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  Speaker 2: first play of the game. We're wasting one.
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  Speaker 1: This is Michigan today, So you're telling me that for
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  Speaker 1: everybody at home listening, we're playing it out. This trip
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  Speaker 1: to hit both semifinal.
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  Speaker 2: Games Crystal Ball, we have.
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  Speaker 3: It our way.
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  Speaker 2: It's Burger King. We fly to Arizona. We watched that game.
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  Speaker 1: We sleep in Arizona, take our time, get some breakfast
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona, get out to have some zips in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: Know that we get all the time in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Make it out to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl that
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  Speaker 1: started at what seven thirty Eastern something like this.
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  Speaker 2: Of no officials, time out, official time out. You can't
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  Speaker 2: lose the toss, go on offense, call a timeout, and
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  Speaker 2: then just start running plays. The timeout is for me
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  Speaker 2: to have a moment to talk. We're playing. That's that,
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  Speaker 2: that's the game. You guys are in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: it right now. You're essentially running your first drop. So
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  Speaker 2: what you want in and stop and no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're good. It's just your time out. It's no longer
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  Speaker 2: a timeout. We're in it now.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I haven't flinched two or three fall starts on
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  Speaker 3: the opening drive already for.
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  Speaker 2: Not understanding the rule, for just not in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a conference. I'm like, hey, let's let's try to
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  Speaker 2: explain something to me. I'm like, so do I or
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  Speaker 2: you want me to keep going? We go, Hey, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, and he goes time out, starts talking
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  Speaker 2: about it, thinking wait, no, no, we're we are in the
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  Speaker 2: lines right now. The game is happening. So your timeouts gone.
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  Speaker 2: We're in it now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't make the rules. I don't know the rules.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the official. I'm making them up as I go. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: So what's the next Your timeout is gone? You want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it? Go ahead, you're talking about crystal
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  Speaker 2: ball right now. Carry on. Also, you're backed up. It's
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  Speaker 2: first and twenty, so crystal ball.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of how we would operate the trip we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to enjoy go to the college football Playoffs semifinals. However,
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  Speaker 1: something came into play. Josh Pate had to be in
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  Speaker 1: it Land to broadcast zoom whatever from the stadium Mercedes Bans.
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  Speaker 1: You had to be in the semifinal, in the atmosphere,
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  Speaker 1: in the environment calling into get up to do your hits,
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  Speaker 1: Get up first, take all of.
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  Speaker 3: It early in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Early in the morning. No problem with that. So we
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  Speaker 2: had to figure out a way to fly.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we gotta fly out from Arizona on Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: to get their land Friday morning. Gonna be a grind,
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  Speaker 1: gonna land it two three in the morning. But we're
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  Speaker 1: doing it because the boy has the boy, Josh pat
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  Speaker 1: has an obligation. That's why we're doing so. As we're
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  Speaker 1: flying in land, go to the game in Arizona, land
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta and it's two thirty in the morning, and
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  Speaker 1: you drop a bomb of I just got a zoom
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  Speaker 1: in from my hotel room. It doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 1: on site in Atlanta. Fireworks go might hang on a second.
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  Speaker 1: So then why did we have to? But I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to jump to conclusion. I'm like, so when did
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  Speaker 1: you know this information? And you say you knew it
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  Speaker 1: on the way to Arizona. So optically we could have
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  Speaker 1: we could have switched uff around and stayed in Arizona
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  Speaker 1: and not left the Miami Oh Miss game early, and.
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  Speaker 2: I would have met ray Lewis.
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  Speaker 3: Your bladder kept you from meeting ray Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 1: So that is where the understanding If you're sitting there
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  Speaker 1: in your chair thinking you're morally right, but you can't
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  Speaker 1: understand this side of the situation of be it for
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  Speaker 1: the boys. We could have switched some planes up and
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  Speaker 1: at some fun in Arizona. It took our time to
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  Speaker 1: get out of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: I can't help you.
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  Speaker 2: First drives over. Let me just step in for a
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  Speaker 2: second official time out again. This is what happens. But
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  Speaker 2: there's not another JP to come and defend you right
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  Speaker 2: now because this is this is the exact tone that
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  Speaker 2: was taking place on the bus. But you now before
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  Speaker 2: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: I love you.
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  Speaker 2: I love you too, man, So my tweet yesterday this.
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  Speaker 3: Is my time now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, that's a warning. You gotta pick it up.
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  Speaker 1: I like, get up, so many different new rules at me.
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  Speaker 2: Right, buddy, you just you had your top fifteen plays.
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  Speaker 2: You haven't ran one of them yet.
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  Speaker 1: I scored on the opening drive like that was it
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  Speaker 1: was New England Patriots the other week three, Nebraska's the
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  Speaker 1: best three win team of all time.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm even going to bolster your argument. That's
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  Speaker 3: how that's how sure I am that I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: moral right here. Back up six weeks ish. We're doing
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  Speaker 3: it up in New York. We're on a very tight
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  Speaker 3: timetable because you got to get back, because you've got
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  Speaker 3: to be somewhere at one fifteen in the afternoon. Do
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  Speaker 3: you remember this? Yes, And our plan is we're off
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  Speaker 3: air at what ten o'clock in the morning. We're out
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  Speaker 3: of there by ten ten. We already got the escape route.
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  Speaker 3: They're holding the freight elevator for us. And then at
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  Speaker 3: like nine to fifty five, someone comes over from the
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  Speaker 3: first take studio and they ask, can they get me
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  Speaker 3: for twenty more minutes, which may very well push our
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  Speaker 3: landing time back to where you miss your family obligation.
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  Speaker 3: What did you say?
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  Speaker 2: I was hesitant? I was I was totally thinking about myself. Yeah, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we can do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah without hesitation. Let the record show without hesitation, I said, yes,
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  Speaker 3: anything for you. So there is president already this year
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  Speaker 3: where you guys have been over backwards to help me
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  Speaker 3: out because it was a very, very great career opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for me, and I was appreciative of that, right all right,
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  Speaker 3: So this would not have even been the first time
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  Speaker 3: that you have put me over you. Selfless friendship, it's
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  Speaker 3: what it's all about, right, absolutely, Okay, what would you
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  Speaker 3: do if you were in my position and you knew
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  Speaker 3: that we're going to try and go to both games
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  Speaker 3: dream scenario knock out two playoff games in an ideal
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  Speaker 3: world in your crystal ball were on the field for
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  Speaker 3: those games. But I digress. I digress. We're at the games,
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  Speaker 3: and the producers, the producers from Get Up and or
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  Speaker 3: First Take, doesn't matter which show. They say, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be in Atlanta Friday morning. Yeah, I think I will
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  Speaker 3: be in Atlanta Friday morning. Let's get you from the venue.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get you over there. You're gonna be a couple
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  Speaker 3: of blocks away. Let's get you from the venue. But
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  Speaker 3: then it goes back and forth throughout the week. Now
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  Speaker 3: you didn't know this because this didn't really concern you.
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  Speaker 3: So I was just trying to deal with them. So
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  Speaker 3: first off, it starts with it you are going to
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  Speaker 3: be there, Then you're not gonna be there all right.
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  Speaker 3: Then it changes back to you are going to be there, right.
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  Speaker 3: So we've already had some ping pong back and forth,
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  Speaker 3: little production uncertainty. And then I tell JP, because we
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  Speaker 3: do have to plan for these things. Hotel rooms have
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  Speaker 3: to be booked, flights have to be changed. I tell him,
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  Speaker 3: can we get out of Arizona? Can we get to Atlanta?
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  Speaker 3: It's all agreed upon. Then on the flight out there,
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  Speaker 3: it's still really really wobbly, it's really uncertain. And then
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  Speaker 3: they say, hey, looks for now like we're going to
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  Speaker 3: zoom you. We're just gonna go zoom. I'm thinking, in
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  Speaker 3: the back of my mind morally, this may not be done.
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  Speaker 3: This may not be the last time they switched this up.
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  Speaker 3: We've already got everything booked. This is you're a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Your goldfish died while you were at band camp, and
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  Speaker 3: your parents flushed him down the toilet and they told
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  Speaker 3: you that he went to heaven. What you don't know
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  Speaker 3: won't hurt you as a kid. I'm figuring at that
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  Speaker 3: point you've already resigned yourself in your mind that you
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  Speaker 3: flew from New York to Nashville. Now you got a
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  Speaker 3: Nashville to Phoenix. Now you just know you're going to
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  Speaker 3: go to Phoenix to Atlanta. You've already girded your loins
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  Speaker 3: up mentally, you're zoned in, You're prepared for it. It
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  Speaker 3: won't hurt you if I don't tell you. Plus they
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  Speaker 3: may switch it back up on me at the last minute.
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  Speaker 3: So I have told them I'm going to be in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be in Atlanta. All's well. We do
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  Speaker 3: have to leave the game early, which I will admit sucked,
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  Speaker 3: and I hate that and.
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  Speaker 2: Created for some funny moments like when we got on
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  Speaker 2: the plane.
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  Speaker 3: Any yep, yep, thank you, and you missed your shot
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  Speaker 3: with Ray Lewis and Michael Phelps and I hate that,
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  Speaker 3: although I take zero responsibility for it, but I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: And we fly and we watch Parson Beck win the game.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a very very colorful ride. And then
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  Speaker 3: you may take a little twenty minute nap. Not me
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  Speaker 3: because my seat wouldn't recline, but everyone else is able
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  Speaker 3: to take a nap. We eat some sushi, the only
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  Speaker 3: meal that we ate period on the trip was eaten together,
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  Speaker 3: contrary to popular belief, on another show that airs about
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  Speaker 3: thirty seven feet from us. Right now, Yeah, can I.
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  Speaker 2: Tak an official time out?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's back up a bit to last week when
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  Speaker 2: it's you're going to be at the venue, you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to be at the venue. You may zoom, you
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  Speaker 2: may not zoom. At any point, did you communicate this
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  Speaker 2: to Will Compton?
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  Speaker 3: I communicated it to Clump.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that because as he's telling a story that's a
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  Speaker 2: tackle for loss sac right there.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't I document that? Didn't I just say that
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  Speaker 3: like I was in pretty constant communication with Clump. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: I was talking to Clump about travel. No, JP just
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  Speaker 3: defended my honor.
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  Speaker 2: At at any point, did you communicate me Will that, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: it could be from the venue, it couldnot be from
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  Speaker 2: the venue.
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  Speaker 4: Josh, I love you.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: When I told him, I told him I had to
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: do it from the venue.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, I booked it. We were going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: land and stay in Arizona. And then when I called
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Josh and let him know what my understanding was, he said, oh,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: that's not going to work, because I was going to
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: do it live from Atlanta.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this point is at the point where we
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: had originally agreed let's do it from Venue. Then maybe
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: we're going to zoom you. No, let's do it from Venue.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: This point right here got you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: This is when I'm talking. Yeah, yes, did you.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: I never knew that it wasn't gonna be then till
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: because I asked you on the ride there, what time
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: you were gonna be live from the stadium.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: And now we arrive in Atlanta. It's neon blue in
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the van, it's raining, it's two thirty in the morning. Window.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: He's staring, he's he's is that Mars? Is that Venus? Like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: he's got that look in his eye. He's staring off
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: in his face and he's asleep, but his I are
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: wide open. And somebody asked, I think JP said, we're
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: gonna come with you to the stadium in the morning.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: What time are you gonna leave? We may just we
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: may not even go to sleep. We're gonna come over
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: there with you. And I said, we're just gonna do
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: it the hotel room. I tried to say it. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: tried to say it's under my breath. I tried to
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: say it, and then this happens right here. I'm looking
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: out the window of the van. Hold on, hold, you
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: don't have to be at the venue.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: We could have been in Arizona. We could have gone
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: to sleep, and at that point you can just you
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: could laugh, and you could hope it makes for good content.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Do you really want to state your entire case that
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: takes fifteen minutes in a van at two thirty in
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: the morning. No one's gonna remember it anyway. So I
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: just decided to laugh it off, send him an edible
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: arrangement or something later, and we'll we'll just call it even.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: But what hurt me the most, and this is out
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: of my control, what hurt me the most was the
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: next morning. I didn't know how deep it had cut
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: you until I saw the video of you guys eating
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: breakfast basically across the street from me. And I'm on
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the TV clearly in my hotel room, and you're standing there.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Watch buddy tear Yeah what else? Partially from laughing, partially
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: from just empathy rolled down my face.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm watching him on first take, seeing the hotel background.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Dude just zooming in from his hotel room in Atlanta.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Because all I'm thinking as I'm hearing a story, the said, well, look,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: brotherhood isn't perfection, But when you communicate with each other
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and you know that you might be stuck in a situation,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it fellas I'm just gonna get this out of the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: way right now. I might not have to be at
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the venue tomorrow, but they've been so wishy washy, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna have to be there or
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: not for in case we think that we might want
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to stay in Arizona, we still got to go still
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: need to go to Atlantic because.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I have no clue at ESPN's thinking right there the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: bags passed.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You communicated like there's no there's no car, there's no
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: feeling you have in your body when you're trying to whisper.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It under your breath, like I'm just zooming in tomorrow
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: because what.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: You felt in that moment when you're saying that answer,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, I gotta unleashing a line from its cage.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I got to tell him the goldfish is dead. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: got to tell him he didn't feed the goldfish. It died.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I was having to do that thing where JP sitting
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: behind you. So I'm having to talk past your ear,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: hoping your zoom.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the window, just staring at the stars,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: whatever it is.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Wait, looking back on it, I might have sent the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: time out, like time out.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It took so long for you to stop looking out
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the window was what got me.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It's so funny because it's exactly how I told the story.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Looking back on it, would you have communicated differently?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I think looking back with all the information I have now,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: when they originally switched it from stadium to zoom, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: would have said, let's just keep it like that because
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: that was two days. Maybe that was before you and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I talked about booking, so we would have been able
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to book however we wanted to. We would have been
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: able to stay out there. We would have seen Carson
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Beck do his thing in person. We would have seen
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Mario rage out on the field. Afterwards, we would have
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: seen the past interference called life. Who knows, Maybe you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: meet Ray Lewis in the postgame.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe we're hitting the dance together. I don't want to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: belt off with Michael Irvin.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I do want to say one thing, Like the viewers
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: of the bus were led to believe that it ripped
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: your heart out, not to be able to spend an
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: extra day in Arizona, like you have such affection and
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: such love for Arizona. I don't want to use the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: words you used when we were on our final approach
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: into land. But first off, Clump finds out it snows
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: in Arizona because he called it and I quote fake
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: snow from the air. So he finds that out. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: then ever we saw this all like a crater from
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: an asteroid. We're learning all sorts of things about theography
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of Arizona. You're basically running the Arizona Tourism Bureau. On
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the plane, you do everything, but you have the spinner
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: in your mouth. You're looking like a bus tour You
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: had some commentary on the state of Arizona, which led.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Me to believe that by the way, that wasn't cool.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: You led me to believe it was no big deal
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to you, Like, hey, first bus out of here, I'm
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: on it. I didn't really think it was a big
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: gu I thought I was doing you a favor.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: You treated Laura Atlanta. I's how you were treating Arizona.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell everybody how great of a state
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Arizona is, where it's located. All the things you can
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: go do out of nowhere, will goes Man Arizona and shit, he.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Didn't even say Arizona. He just said azy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was doing one of the things where I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: looking out the window.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing Taylor whole court on how incredible Arizona is,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I have just a grin going
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: on in my brain, like I'm.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Just gonna throw out that. You know, Arizona sucks. Bro,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you're talking about sounds like a weekend of hurt. Sounds
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like everybody was kind of about to get each other
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Could have communicated better. Wild random shot at
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: me being excited about my home state. That's just ball busting, bro.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, yeah, that's just ball.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Whenever the moment came up and the two thirty thing
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: came up, because I'm like assuming because again what he
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: hoped happened, Like I didn't hear what he said.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I think JP might have just told me what what
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Josh said. Isn't that what happened? JP? You might have
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: like tapped me. Josh doesn't have to be it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But I want to say somebody might have like, hey,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: do you hear what Josh said, but it was something
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like that. But either way, it's like perfect opportunity for
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: ball busting because I like the feeling he was explaining
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that he was trying to like have it under his breath.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, yeah, we're doing Yeah, we're gonna do
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: it from the hotel room. And then we had to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: walk home in the rain. We did pouring down rain
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: after the game, which was a splattering and we get
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: out of there. And now the good news is we
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: got home before midnight, so that's nice. Yeah, the bad
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: news is signidium was Dan Lanning bad news. You guys
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: had a couple of moments pre game. I saw it
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: on the flog. You had a couple of moments.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were one that we were gonna post on
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: social and landing walk by in the tunnel and he
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like looked at me and he was like doing this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: But by the time the caption was put together and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Clump showed it to me pick six, I was like, hey.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Put that away. Let's not put that out. So just
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to put a bow on this conversation will started this way.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You both start with years are on opposite sides. You're
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: about to go to and do a fight, play a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: football game, meats each other, will goes in and says,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I believe that we both believe we're right. However, we
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: can see the other side, and you said, I'll speak
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: for myself. I don't see it that way right now.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: How do you feel at the end of this whole
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: entire conversation.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that if I would woke up in
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: New York and I had to do a show, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: then I had to go pick up someone in Nashville,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and then I had to go to Arizona, as bad
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: as it may suck, and then I had to leave Arizona,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and then I found out at two thirty in the morning,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: after you've been up what twenty four straight hours?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I can imagine I may rage out a little bit. Internally,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't show it. I keep a strong poker face.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I can imagine that would do something to me. Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: would I be mad at me? Would I be mad
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: at ESPN? Who's to say? Does it even matter at
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: this point? No, it really doesn't, So I guess maybe
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: morally I found some middle ground.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I love you such a really such a.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Glaud of friends.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Again, it's beautiful but honestly, I'll just talk to you
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: guys like Josh Paate really just took no accountability.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And I told Will.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I still feel the same way. Your emotions are yours,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and I'll shake your hand. And Will took that. It
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: was like, we're all good now because I know, I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: know I saw that all go down, and we'll goes.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I fucking love you. You say I could see it
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: from Will's side. You're like, I can never say it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Why Will is mad because all the things he had
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to go through.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: But really I didn't say his name specifically, I just
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: said someone.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And secondly, in the vlog, I thought the most poignant
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: moment was next morning, you guys are in the restaurant
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: eat breakfast, and you're just you're just talking to the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: camera and you're airing out all your grievances and you say,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Pay's not even here right now. If he was here
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: right now, I probably don't dropped some philosophical quote on me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I not agree with it, and I'm taking a couple
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: more days. Still got that all done. We feel good
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, I know I know his heart.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And he said even though he was like I don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: understand the side and then when he says he if
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he'd go back, he'd communicate like that's all I needed
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to hear.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: We got a couple of reek.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: If the question ever came up, if someone ever asked,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is Josh Pate for the boys? Is it one hundred
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: percent in your head? Yeah, how he is one hundred percent.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Josh pay would never hurt the boys, without question. He's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: for the boys. That's beautiful.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I just need to shake your hand again. Very unselfish
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: friend here, and to prove it, I'm gonna take you
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: guys on a little adventure this spring. That's all I
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: want to say. Right now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I want to say, right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Now, that's all I want to say.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for that. That's gonna be so much fun.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Stay tuned.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And I said, we may not come back from several
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: predictions this year, but what I'm taking you on, we
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: literally may not come back. That's what makes it fun.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And just like when I was in college and playing football,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: if I don't come back, it's a good life.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would have wanted to go.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: That's how I would have wanted to go. Let's talk
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: with these future picks, all right, do you want to
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: start with just going conference by conference, Heisman National Championship,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: or do you want to just look at the records
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: right away?
• 26:38
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• 26:53
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• 26:55
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• 26:56
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• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Episode, man, I don't know if I want to do any.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: There's another option. You guys watch Lame Man.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Boy Buddy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But we had a whole conversation on the plane about
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: lamb Man and now it's not up to snuff this
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: second season. I'm still watch it. Okay, what's going on?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Did this last week turn around for you?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Can I just say there were some text conversations happening
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: deep into the night about this this dude right here.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you don't even host it with anyone.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: It's just you stream of consciousness. If you latch onto
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: a show, let's say it's Land, Man, I would listen
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: to a ten part podcast series of you just airing
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: your thoughts, because, like, if you're vocalizing what I read
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: last night several paragraphs, not even wait for a response,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: He's just hey, you mind listening? For a second. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: got some stuff to say about land Man, I would
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: listen to that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'll look into it. Yeah we did, we will. Did
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: we go back and forth? I mean I said yeah,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I was right on off a lot of that ways.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Like he said something to sparked the conversation because I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: updated him on the news that we learned about yesterday.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And we can't share on the show.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Josh texted me at yesterday nine to twenty three, please
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: advise when you've watched a Laman this week. First text back,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I need Grandpa to take down the new PT and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then I just started to rattle off, you know my
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the show.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't disagree with him.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Did this and that last week do anything for us?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Because when we sat there, I'm like four weeks behind.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I think I watched the first episode of season two.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It did the worst thing ever. It made you think
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the next episode could do something for you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, damn, I'm gonna have to jump on.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And a massive side story that again has nothing to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: do with the main storyline, but could gain that could
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: could garner a certain.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Audience to be excited about what was happening in the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: sun right kind of like stranger Things is, so what
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: does that here? We go hold time? So what does
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Lambman have to do with our futures? Picks?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: They're just thinking about. I don't want this show to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want this season to end. I just want
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to hang with the boys. And I know when we
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: get to the football aspect of it, the football portion,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it's over.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be over. Yeah, all rights, what do you
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: got with my picks? No?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I was just curious if people have been watching Landman
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: so we could talk about some Landman.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Did you end up what you watched?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: The Yeah, I got I got thoughts separate from yours
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that I won't use because they really are spoilers, But
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I got some thoughts. We'll offline it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: That's that's the hard part is we're talking.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd be talking about it now and it's only
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: been a few days since it's been out.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Can I answ this this side this side story that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the main story, but you
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: could see can you see the side story colliding with
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the main storyline somehow someway?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess somehow some way. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: they could have done it differently. They just the the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: main the main story of the entire show, with like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: loi or oil cartel, war negotiations, all this stuff. Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's only in bits and pieces throughout the episode. The
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: rest is filled up with nonsense. It was like the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: mom and daughter and the Old People's Home. I think
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Grandpa's getting shown quite a bit. I do love his
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: one liners. He's got some good philosophical takes.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Grandpa's the guy that sits there every night in the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: wheelchair and looks out. He's just watching the sunset. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and now he's now he's at the house moving minute dad.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I love seeing the bridging of the gap between dad
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and son that storyline. But a lot of it, it's like, say,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it's a fifty minute show. Forty minutes of it is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: some of these side stories that you don't care for.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're they're funny.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: They might make you laugh, but once they once it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: ran its course a few times, it's like, Okay, what
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: are we doing while we build out an entire plot around.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: It's like someone showed up said, we got ten fifty
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: minute episodes to fill. We've got about two episodes worth
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: of meat here. What do we do? And someone in
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the back, said leave it to me, and then they
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: just threw a bunch of fat in there with me.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, wife, daughter, old folks home.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: My advice to you was, watched the show on one
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: point seven to five speed.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first advice. This kind of sucks
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: because he's been talking about Will is always big on
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: like a multiple multitude of shows. When Landman came up
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and I was sitting there with my wife, I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a week or two before the second season came out,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: and I was like, we should put this on. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: heard it's great, and we flew through that first season
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: and it was I I, I am so excited. We
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: waited till now to watch it because the second season
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: starts like in four to five days from now. And
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: then I watched the first episode. I like to lean
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: back and kind of binge a little bit. And then
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: when I check in with Will three weeks ago, my hands,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: anything happened in Landman, He's like, not really, And then
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: we have the conversation on the plane going to Arizona,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and you guys had your whole takes on. Basically, what
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: we're talking about now is like there's not a lot
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: of ass behind the show. It's really just a lot
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: of fat you could cut off. It's a mass in
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the show bang show. Wow that's true. Oh wow, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: hey that right though, He's right, like you can't get
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: but this has been one episode true and we're really
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: just prolonging this finale of Is Josh and Taylor going
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to pick different teams going into the National Championship.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one wants to go home.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: No one wants to go home. We enjoy it that
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the last.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Show of the tour. No one wants to go home.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, a great zinger over there, budget demon
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that was a little un Is the truth the truth?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: A truth doesn't care about feelings. Futures picks.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I look at the futures picks saying, and for everybody
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: at home that can see this car, there's only one
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: green highlighted.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: There's only one green high Yeah the whole sheet. Taylor
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: won in five Willow and six Josh.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: This is for conference winners, tho.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Winters, Heisman Winter National Champion, which I do take pride
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in this National Champion pick because got graphic. They came
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: out last week with all the sports media figures and
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: there's only one individual that's still there was wive in
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the hunt, knowing that you had anything I knew, Like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: damn it, if I go back, I neither. Yeah, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of happy because then it wouldn't be what
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: we have right now, which is too tied. Two individuals
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: tied going to the national championship.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how I looked at it that graphic,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a year away. I was a year off with
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Josh in that graphic though.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Can you read him off?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Uh So the national champion, Taylor had Oregon.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: He's and he was speaking about the on three graphics
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that went out with all the college football personalities and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the teams that they picked.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: He was the only one that had a team left,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: which was Oregon in the semi final.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Texas and you had Alabama, Suppress Price.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Indiana, Oregon, Ole, miss Miami. Yeah. Reasonably. At the beginning
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: of the season, the only one of those teams anyone
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: that I know of would have picked would have been Oregon.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: The other three no one would have picked, right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Right, Maybe Indiana second because they know the playoffs last year.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I never saw anyone, you think, not with Ohio State,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: say like Michigan hadn't played.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The season yet.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: The top five preseason. Remember that, and Indiana has got
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: to go to Penn State. Don't forget what you know now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: And I love that she said that because Penn State
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: people that want to hate him in state now like
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that roster is still a top ten roster in college.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Football and was perceived to be top five. I mean,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: haters of Penn State were ranking them number eight preseason. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: so so Indiana had to go to Penn State, had
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: to go to Oregon. Plus, you got this whole idea
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: in your mind that man, now everyone's on to them.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: They're on everyone's radar. Certainly, you got sophomore slump potential,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: you got complacency. Now we know better, but you couldn't
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: have known better at the beginning of the season. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't see a single person pick Indiana to win
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: the national title. I didn't see a single person.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: On the topic of Indiana. A lot of conspiracy theories
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: on the internet right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Now, Oh there is you know how the internet is.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: They go crazy, Hey, and Indiana people are saying that
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: they're hacking catapult. Mark Cuban Big Investors is the owner
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: you put the pinfoil hat on. We're just putting a
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: tinfoil hat on right now.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Marks an owner in Catapult. Catapults is the technology that
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of college football teams.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You to watch film, break down plays, give coaches notes,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: track guys and how fast running, how much they're putting
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: out from a vo two met all. Yeah, and Mark Cuban,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: who's an alumni of Indiana, he owns that company or
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: is an investor in that company.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Do you know if there's any truth to this, Josh
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: B I personally don't know if there's any truth to this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I can tell you there are some people that believe
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: there's truth to it. However, I've told every single one
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: of them show me, and no one has shown me anything. Certainly,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: if you do to the college football world what Indiana
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: has done, it's going to rub some people the wrong
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: way because you're out of your place. Your place is
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: to serve up a win to us. All of a sudden,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: you're not doing that anymore, and you look way better
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: than we think you should be able to look. So
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: instead of crediting you, we're going to be suspicious. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: got no problem with that, because I'm a little skeptical
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: about things in life as well. How are they doing that?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: How are they getting that good so quick? They're less
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: talented than this team. How are they running circles around them?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Got no problem with that. I'm going to stop well
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: short of just baselessly throwing out claims. But these people
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: haven't stopped short. So I've asked like half a dozen
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: people that we're talking about whose opinions I at least
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: somewhat respect. Some of them are outright in the coaching industry,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: so I've said to every one of them, you got
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: any proof of it? It's all speculation. It's all speculation
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: to this point. So what I'm going to do is
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: until otherwise notified, I'm going to laugh in people's face
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: about it until I'm showed evidence. Right, That's all I
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: can do.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: You need to be on the wrong side of that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite things to do in early twenty
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: twenty six is to go on x formally known as
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Twitter and get on these spaces and with all the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: transfer portal stuff going on, I have like these, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: one percenter Michigan Wolverine fan bases that start these spaces
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: and they kind of break down the day of how
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal went and stuff like that. And I've
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: jumped in probably half a dozen of these. At some
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: point you can go on, you can just show you,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you can show hey, it's me in here, and I do.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And every time we get into a conversation and I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: jumped in last night, they're breaking down Snowden and French
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and these guys who got in the transferport. Everyone's really
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: excited for French. They are saying we're a national championship contender.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I kind of fall back a little bit, like boys,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: we got to see some development, see how good these
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: coaches really are. But the topic comes up about Indiana,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and all these Michigan guys are just screaming like they've
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: already john a line the sand. These guys are cheaters.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: And I let them go for about thirty seconds before
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I hit them with the Will Compton looking out the bus.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, give me time I go.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: If there's any fan base that should probably fall back
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: about about this, it's probably us. Let's just let's sit
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: back for a second, like, well, we didn't do anything
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: on my boys. Lay, I'll hold that flag forever. However,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: three years ago, two and a half years ago, the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: same conversations happy with Michigan and there's a lot lot
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: more evidence around that than there is run India. Wow,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: maybe we should just kind of fall back to which
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: they were like fuck that cheeks, and I realized I
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: love these group of boys. Yeah. I can't wait to
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: go to ann Arbor for a game next year. Hopefully
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the Fall don't lie to hers there. We're there and
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I have a couple of guys that I can't recognize
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it all with their faces, but they say, Hey, you've
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: been in my Space and we're like boys just because
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that George Kittle and guys guys be in his dms,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: and then you go to parties that he host kittle
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Fest and they're like, oh, how do you know George?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: We just DMed him one day and we became boys.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping happens throughout my space's journey.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I shake a dude and he's like, I'm like, so,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: how do you know Tailor? He's like, I'm the the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: what is it? The Bryce Unleashed?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: It seems like he's the leader of the group. He's
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: always going on the spaces and it's so funny to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: go through their timelines and to watch them be like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Bryce absolutely sucks and then like three hours later, it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: like this kid's going to be elite and they just
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: live that. Everything is just so emotional, and I love
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: to be a part of it because you really understand
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the fan base when you do that. I suggest anybody
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: out there, especially u JP, like there's a couple of
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: spaces for South Carolina, just go in there and just
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: enjoy the conversation. It is fun, man, it's a good time.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But this is telling me that we sucked at our futures.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Who didn't.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get this because I do believe that
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you're national champion. I have a suspicion that is gonna
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: be the same as same next year as it is
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: You really think so you think I was a year
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: two early.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: No, I think you're gonna believe you're a year too
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: early to where Alabama pay comes back out.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, should I let my dad make my picks for me?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You let your dad make your picks. Like, who's the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: new quarterback for Alabama? Keilan Russell. He's gonna start. Everybody's
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: telling me how great that kid is. He'll win the Heisman, not.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Even in the Heisman odds on fendor.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Right now, Alabama won the SE's champion, Alabama won the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Big twelve champion. Your dad will pick all of them
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: for every time.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing stuff too in the Alabama world about
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: spending in ANIL or kind of like they're not keeping
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: up with the times or the elite of the elite
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: because they've always handed they've always just handled it conservatively,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and it's just a it's just a new age. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sitting there listening to these guys,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I can't remember their names, but they're kind of talking about,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you know, the Bama nil, the portal, the spending that
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: goes on the position that Bama uses that they think
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: is leverage, but it's actually not leverage. It hurts them
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: because they're not trying to keep up with all the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: biggest spenders in the conference and trying to kind of
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: get over that hump that every team's trying to get
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: over of like hating in IL or resisting in IL,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: or feeling like you can do it a certain way
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and still and still win it all, which I mean,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I guess you can, but I just didn't expect a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: team like Alabama to hear fan base talking like that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the SEC is so interesting to me because like
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: they've obviously been so dominant forever and now this is
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the third national championship where they're no SEC team cannot
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: win next year though, and Paul Finbaum even goes on
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: live TV and says the Big Ten is the superior
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: conference to the SEC. I'm not sure what happened, but
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: he's basically putting a full indictment in the entire SEC
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: right now. What do you think the issue is?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Severalfold number one? The Big Ten's allowed to try too,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: So you could just have that there's somewhat of a
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: cyclical nature of football. You could have that the NIO
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: has changed the top of the tallest trees, or both
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: of those things could be true. I think there's like
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a layer. It's not the top layer, but that there's
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: a sub layer that the SEC for so long had
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: an edge talent wise, that they knew they roll out
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of bed every morning. Then they have it not so
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: much because they're great, but because of what geography was
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: in college football, because the SEC was willing to do
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: stuff under the table that the rest of college football
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: wasn't willing to do. You're basically paying kids to stay home,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: like it's not the toughest proposition in the world to
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: convince a kid from Tuscumbia, Alabama to play as football
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, or like Clarksville to go play in Athens, Georgia.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: So I think they got a little lazy in the
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: way they hire staffing. It's just a theory I'm working on.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I can ever prove this, but I think they understood
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it may be hoove us to hire recruiters over coaches
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: in the SEC, because that's really our lifeblood. We need
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: to maintain this massive talent edge on the rest of
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: college football. Therefore, we don't need to win on the margins.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: We don't need to squeeze the sponge a little harder
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: to get a few more drops out Like University of
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Illinois Iowa. They got to do that. We're Florida, We're LSU.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: We don't have to do that. So then the sport
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: didn't change gradually. It changed pretty quickly. Over the last
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: five years. It's changed pretty radically. And I think the
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: SEC got caught with its pants down. And I also
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: think the SEC got caught with buildings full of people
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: that probably are seventy five percent of what may be
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: in those big ten buildings from a pure standpoint of
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: football acumen, an ability to coach, and ability to develop
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: because for so long in the SEC they knew we
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: need to be C plus or B minus in those areas,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: we'll be fine. Athletes will just win for us. There's
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: any one thing like, yeah, you could say NIL changed things,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: which it did, but you got to get more specific
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: on what it changed. And then from the SEC's viewpoint, okay,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: well then let's get specific on whether that's permanent. Is
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: this just cyclical? Does this come back around? Because like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I grew up watching pro wrestling, huge fan of it,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: like in the late nineties, as every kid my age
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: was all right, so you got WWF. It's on top
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: for a long time, and then Ted Turner invests in
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: WCW and then it blows up, and then WWF takes
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a back seat for like eighty two weeks in a row.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: They get beaten the Monday Night ratings. Then Stone called
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Steve Auston emerges and then they retake the throne. But
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: from that point forward it wasn't cyclical. WCW just died
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: and it never was again. So like, how does college
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: football look? Is it just back and forth, jockeying for position,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: or did Nil really just do something that permanently alters
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the landscape. I would imagine that's not true, but you
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: never know. My crystal ball doesn't see that far in
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: the future. I love a good wrestling analogy always.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I was a big WCW fan, Nitro guy I was.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I was Bill Goldberg when Sting came over, Paul Cogan
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: came over. Now, as soon as you see the documentary
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: with Vince McMahon, which one the one where it's it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: essentially talking about all the doings like when WWF was
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: taking the back seat, everything that you explain on Like
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm remembering that documentary with Vince McMahon.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: It's a fascinating period of time.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ted what's his name, Ted Turner.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Owned the Atlanta Braves. That's what That's why I knew
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Ted Turner. He owned the Atlanta Braves because he.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Was also a wrestler in WCW, like him owning it right, Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: he owned WCW.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: He owned Turner so TBS, T and T all of
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: those things. And he used that ownership of T and
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: T to get into the wrestling business and then give
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: his brand WCW a primetime spot on Monday Night to
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: go head to head with WWF. Until that point, they
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: were running unopposed on Monday Night. You got two hour
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: block of time on USA Network on Monday Night. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Ted Turner or a billionaire
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: comes into the room and says, I think I'm going
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: to get in the wrestling business, and since I own
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: a network, I'm going to give my brand two hours
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: of primetime TV on Monday Night. No, by the way,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: we're gonna go live where his WWF was just taped
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: at that point, and then we're gonna start giving away
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: their results on our live show to disenfranchised viewers from
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: turning over to WWF program. It was lethal all war.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: He was like, I'm going to join the show. He
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was became a wrestler. He was an actual wrestler who
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: owned a network company. Yeah. I took WCW and said,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you guys the biggest in the show.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, this guy NA joined the joined the show. This
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: guy in the but was joining the show. She's like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: NW he was part of nWo.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember that. White Eric Bishop not like
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: a part of it.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Like he's one of the founders, but you know, just
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in it from his position going in and.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Out of the world.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember him as like a he was wrestling.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: That's pro wrestling, that's all make believe. Head Turner named
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: himself manager of the Atlanta Braves for a game in
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: the eighties, and then Major League Baseball had to step
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: in and say, that's not happening. So this guy in
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a real legit sport, one of the big four sports,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: said I own the team, why can't I be the manager?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: And then Major League Baseball had to step in and say,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: cause you just can't, you gotta, you gotta retire. Yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: so he was one game manager and then he he
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if he won, but he hung
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: up the whistles.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Wikipedia's gotta be crazy, all backlas manager in the MLB,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: pro wrestler, billionaire on a cable a network company. That's
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: This is a world that you, guys, I see both
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: of you guys eyes light up about that. I never
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: was invested in. Ever.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Here's what fascinates me about it, all right, I think
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: there's so many parallels to what we do to the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: world we're in. Like I ingest a ton of podcasting
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: about that topic from that era, and I don't even care.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: If you don't like wrestling, you you can never have
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: watched an episode of pro wrestling in your life. The
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: parallel els to the way the modern digital media ecosystem
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: works so readily correlate with how pro wrestling worked in
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: the late nineties. There's so many lessons to be learned.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: It just so happens that I also liked wrestling growing up.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: But even if I didn't, I could listen to that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine people saying, we filled this show with
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: fluff and don't talk about college football enough.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: This is just old school podcast. Yeah, that's all it is.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: All right, Before we get into a True Classic game
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: of the week, I want to talk to you about
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: True Class. You can find True Classic and am at
• 48:27
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• 48:29
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• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I got the pants on right here. They're hyped up
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: pretty high right now, but I'm telling you they fit great.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: They got to stretch the elasticity and them look good,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: feel good, play good. Let's get at the True Classic
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: game of the week. All right, let's talk about Miami. Yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: this is it, dude. This is the true classic game
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: of the week. Every week's got games. Will we one
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: fit just right? This is the true classic game of
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the week. We got the National Championship hard Rock Stadium
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: in Miami. In Miami, he's at home, but they are
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: the way team play Indiana. Who's favored by eight and
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: a half. And the total points in that game is
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: forty seven and a half. Right now, you, Josh paid
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: your forty four and forty four. I am forty four
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and forty four. Will Compton is here as well, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: a couple good wins, a couple of good wins. Threats,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: you had a good showing. Yeah, like that forty and
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: forty eight? What do you call it? Respective respectively? Respectively?
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Like that's a good that's that's solid. Don't pay your guys, man.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Now the light has to be drawn in the sand,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: because two weeks ago we sat there at talking about
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. Yep, you looked me in the eyes,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: and I actually looked at you in the eyes and said,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: if you're so confident about Alabama, take a money line,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and would you.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Say already did you already did?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And that blew up.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I died.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Now we have another opportunity where Indiana has a win
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: margin of thirty one points. They're now being talked about
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: with the twenty nineteen LSU and some of those Alabama teams,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: is the best teams to ever be assembled while only
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: having seven blue chip players.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is insane, But the talk is happening.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Why do you think it's insane.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: It's just due. I don't never do the comparative thing.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I never compared Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth for the
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: same reasons. But I think that you're talking about teams,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: whether it's twenty nineteen LSU or twenty twenty Alabama, that
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: would skull drag any team that exists right now Michigan, Yeah, exactly,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: they would skull drag twenty twenty three Michigan two. So
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: this is only five years ago. That might as well
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: be fifty years ago with the way college football has changed. Okay,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: And you don't need to do that. You don't need
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: to go down the rist. It's like the Lebron Michael
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Jordan debate. I just never needed to do it. I
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: think I got a crazy take that both of them
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: are pretty good. I don't need to denegrate one to
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: like build up the other. I don't need to take
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six slash five Indiana, a team that, if
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: you want to tell me it's the greatest story in
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: college football history, I'm not even pushing back on it
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: and say, yeah, but you know, the probably wouldn't beat
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen LSU, all right, probably wouldn't. Yeah, nobody else
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: would either, probably wouldn't. So the question is, is already
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: thinking Indiana, I'm glad you asked.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Let me put do get them more comfortable.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Nobody, including my own parents, has taught me more lessons
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: in life than Kurt Signetti and the twenty twenty four
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: s last twenty five Indiana Hoosiers. I think they got
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: to teach me at least one more lesson because as
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: of now, unless you talk me off of it in
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the next ten minutes, however long this preview goes, my
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: current plan is to pick Miami to win this game. Outright,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: My current plan is to pick Miami.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: For the show, we'll do numbers. Yep, because it sounds
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: like you're doing Miami, I'm taking Indiana. Dude, go with
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: what your gut tells you.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: My gut tells me you think.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Miami money line, Then god damn it picked the Miami
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: money line.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: He just spent a week half a week. How long
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: did you stay in Vegas?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I was there the same time you guys were doing
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the plane Say, oh so like a.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Couple of days. All right? So, I mean you're speaking math.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: You're breathing in math and numbers like it's oxygen. This
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: is second nature to you. So I walk in this
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: morning before we start recording, and you're kind of trying
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: to feel me out. I'm kind of trying to feel
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: you out. You know, we're deadlocked. We got one game left.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Someone's going to be able to walk away from this
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: game saying I had a winning year. None of those
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: other two dudes did. That's how important this is.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Which means more than we can even imagine right now.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everything.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: It is. It's everything.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And you heard, because you would never watch my show
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: the night before you do a show with nightymore never
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: you heard that I picked Miami plus eight and a
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: half last night. But you also heard that I picked
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: them to win the game outright right.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I heard you're taking Miami. Yeah, from a.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Source, And so you with a straight face, like a
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: true serial killer. Would you look at me and you say, hey,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: we got to break our tie. You're picking Miami out right.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I said, yeah, let's just go money line, like in
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: a one off scenario where the picks are supposed to
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: be fifty to fifty either way. It's really a true
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: coin flip. I'm just going to forget the eight and
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: a half points that I can could get here, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go Miami money line, putting the sea
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: saw statistically with me totally up in the air and
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: you totally on the ground, and you thought I wasn't
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: even gonna be able to see through that. So I
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: refuse the money line proposition because I'm terrified of Indiana,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: because I know what the Rose Bowl did to me.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I'm still not back. I've showed up for the shows,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: but I'm still not really back from the Rose Bowl.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Two and oh last week, Buck, I was.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: On the floor in the bathroom flipping a coin right
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: before the show went on the air. It was pure luck,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: by the grace of God. I'm here and we get
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: to pick this game, and I'm gonna do it in
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: reverse order. I'm gonna give my pick and then give
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: the reasons. So my pick is Miami plus eight and
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: a half. Do I think they're gonna win?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I picked them to win. But my pick on the
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: show is Miami eight and a half. We're going eight
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: and a half, right, yeah, we're going to get Okay,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: my pick is Miami.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: A let me ask you a question.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Do you think Miami's best game is good enough to
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: win this? Because you assume Indiana is just going to
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: play the way they always play, right?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Do you think Miami's best game is good enough to win?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Not cover you win? You think they're good enough to win.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I think they're good enough to win.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I do too. So I got a bunch of
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: things written on this piece of paper, but really it
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: boils down to do I think they're going to play
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: their best game? Because Indiana is really good at knocking
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: you off the tracks and derailing you. And you're like,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: why aren't we moving? Why can't we play our best game?
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Because they're really good at forcing you off of your fastball.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: This is the first game out of the games Indiana's
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: played in the playoff or including the Big Ten championship game. Honestly,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: where I don't just look at it and say, on
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, that team's got to deal with
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Miami or uh with Indiana, Like, yeah, everyone's had to
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: deal with Indiana. They're a handful to deal with line
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. It's the first game where I actually have
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: looked at Indiana and said, yeah, you guys got to
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: deal with them too, because I really think Miami can
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: do some damage on the line of scrimmage. Now, what
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: does that mean for the game? To me, it means
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: it becomes a little bit harder for Indiana to just
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: control the game on the ground, Like they've been really
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: good running the ball. There's so lethal on third down.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: They're like first in the country by a mile on
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: third down offense conversion rate because it's always third and two.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Because it's always third and one. I think Miami not
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: only possesses the ability to stone them against the run
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but not necessarily like have to commit
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: a bunch of numbers to do it. Miami kind is
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: good at doing what Indiana does, which is stopping the
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: room before. Yeah, and so you can't really stretch the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: field or it's hard to do it. You also can't
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: run the ball, so I think Miami can do that,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And at that point, it really just comes down to
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: is Fernando Mendoza in the same zone he was against Organ?
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Because if he is, Indiana will just win the game
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: because no one's beating Indiana if he's in the kind
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: of zone he was against Organ. If you took away
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: the turnovers in the Organ game, Indiana is still winning
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: that thing handedly just because of the zone that Fernando
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Mendoza was in. So question becomes can you stop the run?
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I think they can enough, and then can you get
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: after him enough to where I don't think he's gonna
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: throw like three picks or anything. But he's not in
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the same kind of zone he was against Oregon. He's
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: just human. And then you pull that offense back down
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: to Earth and you can ugly up the game, which
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: they're comfortable with Indiana is, but you ugly up the
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: game and you give that size differential a chance to
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: manifest itself. From the fourth quarter, you're averaging three point
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: thirty on your O line. They're about two seventy to
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: seventy five D line, which hasn't mattered all year. So
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: they're really really good technicians. But I also think Miami's
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: really good in that compartment, and if I can get
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: this thing into the fourth quarter, it's one possession or
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: tied either way. I trust Miami's ability to get over
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: the finish line here, So that's why I took him
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: to win. But that style of game really makes me
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: eager to take the eight and a half. So that's
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: why I took the eight and a half.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both teams have the ability to do what they
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: want to do all year to each other. Yep. Right.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: They want to run the ball effectively, they want to
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: control the line of scrimmage, they want to get into
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the third and managable situation.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Here's here's what concerns me. Good, You're right, I haven't
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: seen Indiana be the victim of like critical mistakes all year.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I've seen Miami be the victim of critical mistakes. My
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: entire thinking here is they avoid the critical mistakes. Indiana's
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: like they're just cruising altitude. Miami's like, we could maybe
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: get up to forty two thousand feet, but we can
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: fly at twenty eight thousand feet the next week. So
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just rolling the dice that they hit forty one
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: thousand feet in this.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Game, right, That is the point of which I look
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: at Indiana and I'm like, this is a team that
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: is going to win the national championship because you can
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: run the ball effectively. I love the note about the
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: offensive line. They're averaging three thirty versus defense that's averaging
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: two seventy. However, the gap integrity that the defense has
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: is absolutely incredible. When you get to third down, they
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I think their defense is like thirty one percent of
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: allowing offenses to convert. I believe that's the correct percentage.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: They just don't make mistakes. The game they made the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: most mistakes in was the first game against Oregon. They
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: had multiple false star issues, clock management issues. But then
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: you get to a two minute situation when there's twenty
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: eight seconds that's on the clock in Fernana Mendozo does
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: what he does best, and that's hit the outside. The
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: numbers just rot and Cooper throwing back shoulder throws once
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the corners have turned their shoulders. I've talked to Will
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: about this a million times. Like Brenana Mendoza runs more
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: rpo than any other quarterback in the entire college football landscape.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And when you're as a defense, if you're trying to
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: stop that, and you're trying to stop the run. Yet
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you have Cooper running a quick slant which gives you
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: a read, and you have Sarrot who's running a vertical
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: when he has press coverage against.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Him, and Becker who's a stud.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have these guys that he has multiple
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: outlets on every single play essentially, even though they are
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty we're going to run it or
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: pass it to where we have this get out a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: jail free card in these areas because Cooper's gonna run
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: this three yard slant, have enough separation to move the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: ball five yards, or I got sarat who's got the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: cornerback's shoulders already turned, and I can throw that fifteen
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: yards downfield and he's just gonna turn to it and stop,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: and it's either going to result in a passer a DPI,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: or it's gonna result in a contested catch that we've
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: seen sarat convert over and over and over again throughout
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the entire season. Question question, go ahead, are my the
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: status on Miami's corners?
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: OJ fre went down? Yeah, O. J. Frederic is the one.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: They're still as of yesterday, still iffy on, which is
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: a huge deal to monitor. We're still what five days
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: away from the game as we're recording this, so there's
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: no way to know because I don't think they'll know
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: until the weekend. But it looks like Mesador is good
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: to go. The other guys who were banged up, it
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: looks like they're good to go. I think O J. Frederic,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: who is a very very important player here when you're
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: talking about what you're talking about, I think he's still questionable.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's the status.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Because the back shoulder chemistry that Mendos and sarat have. Yeah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: it's not just it's I mean cooper as well. They
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: can switch their interchangeable as far as like throwing that ball,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: And I've asked, well a couple of times, like how
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: do you defend that if you're a defensive player, And
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: there's really no answer for it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Like those guys are playing like ole miss was competitive
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and trying to get some of these balls away and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Surat thirteen the strength he has in his hands to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: come down with it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: It is just it's impressive to watch. They're winning games
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: by I think plus thirty one point differential through on
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: average throughout the year. They're blowing out teams, they're they're
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: doing things that we haven't seen in this new landscape
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of cultural playoffs. Like if you look at teams that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: have had buys in the last two years, there's only
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: been one team that's one that's to buy, and it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: been Indiana. So like, regardless of circumstances, history, stats, you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: use the perfect analogy of their just cruising at this
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: altitude and there's not a whole lot of turbulence. And
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: anytime we have seen turbulence, whether it be early in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: the Oregon game the first time they played, or against
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Penn State when they had to go back and have
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: a two minute drive to win the game, They've handled it.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: They've handled adversity. And so when I look at these
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: teams and I'm be as cautious as I can not
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: to be like super critical of Miami because I think
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: they're a fantastic team, But it really just comes down
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: to who this game is all going to be who
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: makes the least amount of mistakes. And I said it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: last year on ESPN. If Carson Beck has two minute
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: drill against Ole miss what's going to happen? And I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: say bluntly to the camera, almost will go to the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: NAST Championship. That exact situation took place at the game
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: you guys were at, and Carson Beck Marsha's team down
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the field and now is in the National Championship. So
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I have a lot more respect and Carson Becker is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: a lot more in his bad that I even expected
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: to him to have. Malachai Tony absolutely incredible opens it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: up where you have to allocate two guys to him
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: while you have a back like Fletcher who's ripping the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: rock for like six yards per carry. So they have
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of things going for them. But at the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: end of the day, dude, it's who makes a mistake,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: who has more emmys, who doesn't handle the clock the best,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and that edge is severely on Indiana side. That's why
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I sit back and I'm like, yeah, eight and a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: half points is a lot, but I think there were
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: what ten points against Alabama. They've had larger spreads throughout
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: this I think Oregon was four and then they Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they've been They've handled business every single time, every
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  Speaker 2: single game throughout this process. When you're like, hey, this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: is a good, feel good story and now we catch
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: ourselves where they're in the National championship. It's they're undeniable
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: at this point. So where if you go the other way? Unfortunately,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: you have to learn a lesson, and the lesson is
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Big Netti. Big Netti. I feel like I'm watching the
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  Speaker 2: national title take place right now. The savviness and moxy
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: of Big Netti. He's he's unfazed, he has every he
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: has everything when it comes. They scored touchdowns, they get
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: an interception, his face is stoic. He's focused on the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: process over and over and over again. And he's got
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: a quarterback that just is all about the team. He
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: is the George Kittle of quarterbacks in the sense of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: it's all about the team, Like, don't even focus on me,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: don't even look at me, It's about the team. Now,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: you got him being black in the backfield too. That
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: are a one to two punch that always happened to
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  Speaker 2: spring a big run and then always fall forward in situations.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great matchup. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be like one of the bloodiest first quarters
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  Speaker 2: we ever see, and it's who flinches first, and Indiana
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  Speaker 2: has refused to flinch all year.
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  Speaker 3: I'm waiting on that moment that you just talked about
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  Speaker 3: like I'm I'm taking Miami, which means I got to
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  Speaker 3: go against Indiana. Even if the game starts out okay,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Miami gets a three to zero lead, Indiana touchdown seven
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  Speaker 3: to three, another field goal from Miami, man got in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: the red zone, couldn't convert. But that's okay. One point game,
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  Speaker 3: early second quarter, back and forth. It's really kind of
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  Speaker 3: a struggle. No one has that clear edge. Even if
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  Speaker 3: I get that game, you would think, oh, he's comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: The game's kind of settling in. Miami's getting their game script,
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  Speaker 3: it's Indiana. You're just waiting for that three minute period
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  Speaker 3: where they score and then someone botches something on the
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  Speaker 3: ensuing kickoff and they get it and they kick another
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  Speaker 3: field goal, and it's just a ten point swing and
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  Speaker 3: a minute and a half and then you go three
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  Speaker 3: and out and they got the ball at midfield and
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  Speaker 3: then they're driving and you're looking and saying, wait a second,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: it was just a tie game. They're up ten, about
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: to go up seventeen, and oh wait, they get the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: ball to start the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they double up on you. Now it's seventeen. Terrified, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Their operation on two minute is incredible. I go back
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: to that Oregon Indiana gameene Oregon, there's twenty eight seconds
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  Speaker 2: on the clock and they're they're on like the twenty
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: six twenty seven yard line, and they do what most
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: people do in that situation is they run the ball
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, if we get a big chunk,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: we'll start to press it down the field. They have
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: multiple timeouts and they end up getting twelve to fifteen
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: yards heavy around the left side, and then it's just
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: chunk play after chunk play where guys are running outs,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: they're catching the ball even two feet, they're having NFL catches,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and they're just moving the ball five ten yards, fifteen
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  Speaker 2: yards to the point where they're on the thirty seven
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: yard line and they kick the three. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: that is operation that is coached, that is everything that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: these players go in. They're like, oh, twenty eight seconds,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: two timeouts, that's no problem with score. We've operated that,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: We've operated over and over and over again. What gives
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: me pause about Miami because they have the ability to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: do all the same things that I just talked about
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: the Indiana. You float back to SMU and Louisville and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: It's like Indiana doesn't have those blips in the red.
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  Speaker 2: They have never showed us. They've only in the words
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: you used about Ohio State as so many team have
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: given us question marks after big games. And then at
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the time you said Ohio has only given us answers.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Now it's Indiana in that position where all year, well, yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Miami lost to this team Notre Dame. Should they be
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: in Texas like they just beat the number one team
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Texas AINGA. There's a lot of question marks taking place,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: But Indiana has only given you answers every single week
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  Speaker 2: and deep into these playoffs in the National Championship.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I want.
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  Speaker 2: So what changes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what I wonder. I think Miami did show
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  Speaker 3: you several blips in the Old Miss game. Like I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: think there were two ten point swings they left on
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: the table in the Old Miss game. Now you can
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: look at that one of two ways. You could say,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: there are the things that will cost them against Indiana.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: They were in playing sight and you ignored them, or
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they go on to beat Indiana and you look and say,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: it turns out their most vulnerable moment was against Ole Miss.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: But Ole Miss just didn't cut the head off the snake,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: and so they didn't have to learn their lesson with
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: a loss. They learned their lesson, but they still won
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: and they applied it, cleaned everything up, and they played
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: their best game in the biggest against Indiana. Obviously, I'm
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: baking on the second scenario for my pick, but I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: don't know, and we.
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  Speaker 2: Also haven't when we talked about how that last play
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  Speaker 2: for Old Miss Trenidda Chamblis in the back left of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: the end zone was easily a DPI that a lot
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: of Yeah, it is, but it's a lot of place
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: to where we could be talking about a different team
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: playing aginst Indiana Miss National Championships.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: You'd also argue on Miami side, how you letting Ole
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Miss get in the position to throw a hell Mary
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  Speaker 1: like that?
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  Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen an extra play
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: just for the actors. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like at the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: end of the day, in Miami deserved to be in
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: that game. I'm I don't want to take any anything
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: away from Miami. I just think when it comes to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: complete mistake free football football that you look at, it's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: like how do we beat him? It's like hope they
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: fuck up and hope is hope gets you killed, and unfortunately,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I think Miami gets killed in this one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to break down watch this national title and
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  Speaker 1: full with both of you guys. I personally think my
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: gut tells me Indiana is gonna win this game. At
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: eight and a half is too many points. I'm going
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: with Miami plus eight and a half. I agree with you, guys,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: laid out so many different angles perfectly. When I was
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: leaving both of these games, my initial reaction is Indiana
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: is gonna kill this team. But then when you look
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: at when you go back and actually dive into the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: game of Miami drop four picks, those ten point swings
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: that we were talking about on the plane. And also
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck has these moments where fortunately there were incompletions,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: but he has the balls always there to be picked off,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: like if you're all missed that they all miss it,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: nears the defense and plays at that level like Indiana
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: does to where again we're in the conversation of Indiana,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: they never really have a false step, they never make
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of mistakes like Indiana will make you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: pay for those kind of throws. But it's more of
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the role the Dies hoping we get an incredible football
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: game and Miami's gonna play their best football because if
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: they do like they have again, they match up well
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: with Indiana. The beef that they have up front on
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball matches up really well with Indiana.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Their ability for Fletcher to run the football. Carson Beck,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: he's been playing much better to where I'm trying not
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: to where I've always allowed myself to get caught in
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the SMU and Louisville like I've been a.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Hater of the acc all year long.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Now they have not only did they handle one of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the best defenses in the SEC in Texas A and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: M and handle the best defense in college football at
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the time with Ohio State, which Indiana beat them with
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: thirteen to ten, and Miami just out physicaled Ohio State
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and took it away, snatched the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: soul from Ohio State and then gets yeah and then
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: showed that they Okay, are they going to be able
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: to keep up with the high powered offense of old
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: miss Like how's the defense going to look? And I
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: was getting so pissed off when they kept dropping interceptions
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: because one of them is another one's arguably a pick
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: six to where if they capitalize on those mistakes, like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: this game is going to be incredible. But Indiana, when
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I fantasize about their story, I feel like this crew
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: right here, let's say twenty years from now, you look
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: back and realize this could be the only sixteen to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: zero team that we see in college football because of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: all the parody that's coming into the sport. So where
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: we look back twenty years from now, it's like, Yo,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: we got to witness that game, like in person, go
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: to their semi final game, and just see that the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: storylines unfold throughout the year, knowing that Indiana was just
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: a shitty football.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Team throughout the history of college football. So I fantasize
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I fantasize about Miami, the confidence, the swagger, the attitude
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: that this team always had in the college football landscape
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: as we were growing up. And then you're trying to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: tell this generation about Miami. And since christ of Ball
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: has gotten there, you've seen these windows of opportunity, whether
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: it's situational football that gets in beat, mental lapses, the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: penalties that get them beat. In years past, they had
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a very like when I look at the Ole Miss
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: game that they just had recently, they had some penalties
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: that they that was very uncharacteristic of what this team
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: has done throughout the week the year, to where you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: sit back and almost go, oh, Miami's kind of being
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Miami right now with some of these penalties, some they
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: didn't even get called for. But again seeing Miami, if
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: they can get over this something and win this national
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: title to where the U is back. I know christ
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Ball hates that, I fantasize about that. I think the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: points are too long, So I'm going with Miami plus
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: eight and a half, just because I believe like as
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: far as the trenches go, the defense being if they're
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: able to be more opportunistic if they get those opportunities
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: on Mendoza, because again they could stop the run with
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: a lighter box because they have the catch, which means defensively,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you have those extra guys for the RPO situations. It's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: just who's gonna win the fifty to fifty balls when
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: you get those back shoulders competing against Sarad and Cooper
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: and those receivers.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: But I'm taking Miami plus eight and a half. One
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: thing up to when you're talking about Carson Back is
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: like he's I mean, this is a seventh year in Calle.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: This is it, this is this is it, this is
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: it for him right now. And you see his level
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: of maturity taking place throughout the playoffs where he's got
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: younger guys around him. You've got a lot of guys
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: that are, like, you know, barely able to drink, twenty
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: years old, nineteen years old, and he is just being
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: a He's being a fantastic leader for that team because
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: of his age and how long he's been able to
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: see the game and it's like that's a that's a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: really cool story. But then you look at Indiana. They
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: have forty four players that are twenty four and twenty
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: five years old, Like they're the oldest team in college football.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: And it's that level of maturity because we've all been
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: you see the level at the college age where you
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: get to college, you know someone's got you go on
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: and have like a case race, and you like really
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: are like, you know, I'm out of I'm at I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: can booze, I can do all this. You're partying, you're
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: kind of like learning about yourself as an individual now
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: you're out of your parents' house. But then you get
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: to like twenty three and you're like, hey, that was
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun, but now I'm gonna slow down
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: because your brain just starts to be like, these really
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: are not the important things. This is where I need
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: to focus.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys are reading newspapers in the morning, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: So I look at this team that has forty four
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: players that are twenty four and twenty five years old.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: They're not worried about the frat houses and the house parties,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the bars, all those things there. These are grown adults.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: The phrase these are grown ass men.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: The phrase when I was your age has come out
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: of the mouth of several Indiana players.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, move into the young bucks, talk about how sore
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: they might.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Be, or I remember those days.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all those guys say calling them fresh legs. Man,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: must be nice to be as young as you.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: One day you'll be in this spot.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, well, probab won't be another COVID,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: so we won't hopefully I'll be in the league.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm excited for this game. It's again
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: walking out of those both those playoff games. My initial
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: gut in the second game we got to watch was
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Indiana Organ and just seeing the ass beating that Indiana
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: put on Organ, It's like I'm walking out of there thinking, Yo,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Miami doesn't have a chance. But every day that goes by,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the pendulum swings for me mentally, for whatever reason, it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: just swings more toward Miami because like, this team's got.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Everything that they need.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: The offensive line, Like I'm standing up there, I don't
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: know how many times I'm Patton JP and clump on
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: the shoulder, like, look at that offensive line. I don't
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: know if it was the all whites making him look
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: so big. But who's what's the name of the left tackle?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Markel Bell?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Markel Bell, for the love of God, And we're up
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: in a suite and I'm like, Yo, these dudes are massive.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: I think Bell's the biggest player in the sport. He's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: the biggest human I've seen in the sport in several years.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: It is nuts.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: And then the Cats that got across the line of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: scrimmage on defense with Mesador and Bain, it's they They
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: have it all there and I love you. You can
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: just feel the identity that they have taken with Crystal Ball.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: And I love seeing Crystal Ball getting in the post
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: game pressers or the media he did the next day
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: where he's going back and forth with saving He's going
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: back and forth with Scott van Pelt after the.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Game like it. It makes me just just root for it. Yeah.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I had that same exact feeling about Oregon and Indiana
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: and that was, yeah, we got But if I swing
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: the other way.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Every Indiana fan you meet when we were out there
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, incredible, man.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: They just like pat you on the head. They smile
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: and they say it's okay, you picked against us. A
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: few times this year. It's okay, man, we get it.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: We will do not even when we get it, like
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't believe.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: It, smiling, Yeah, we love you anyway.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: At what point does that fan base, because they are
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: obviously you've brought it up, how they've been as long
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: as football has been going on in Indiana, Hoosiers have
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: had a football team, they've been bad up until these
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: last two years. At what point does that fan base
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: flip to we're so excited to be here too, we
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: expect this. I don't know, bro, I was than we
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: think we know what a little bit of success does
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: some people's heads.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: It's there, it's already from this point forward. I think
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: they're there.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: So let's say class this year, because you have to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: believe at this point Indian is gonna be in the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: playoffs next year.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I would assume yeah, yeah, right.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: And let's say they go to the first round. They
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: might beat up a muffin, a G five muffin, and
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: then they go and a real team and they lose.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Are Indiana fans like this fucking signetty guy?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: I don't especially if they win Monday Night by three,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: But if they win Monday Night, No, if you win
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: a title your set, they can miss the playoffs the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: next year, and you say, hey, man, everybody has to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: hit the reset button. Why should we be any different?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: I just wonder like, and I could say the same
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: thing about Mario when you get this close, because it's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: not in the BCS anymore, where it's just two teams
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: finish their season. Voila, you're in the game, right. Miami
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: had to win three to even get in this game.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Indiana had to win two and really three because they
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: had to beat Ohio State two. So they both had
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: to go through it to get in this game. And
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: you get so close and you you lurch for the belt,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: but you just miss it off your fingertips. You fall
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: to the mat. That feeling. In the expanded playoff era,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: it must make you feel like it's so borderline impossible
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: to get all the way back there again. Think about
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: how many things have to go right for us to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: get all the way back there again.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: It's tough, big climb. Yeah, everything you just said to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: me made me think, Man, I wish you would get
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: in the NFL football a little bit, because that's the playoffs,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: but the wildcard division A championship, and then you go
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and it's like you get right there and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: you never It's like you never go back. And I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: feel like you would enjoy the storylines taking place in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the NFL.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you a secret?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: None of you are going to believe this. I've watched
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: every playoff game.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: No you haven't. Who do you like right now?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Let me fletch your theory. Caleb Williams, pretty good player,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: pretty good player, pretty good player?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Right, elite?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I think that chapter of his book is yet to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: be written. Elite moments the other day, Oh yeah, talk
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: about changing the fate of an entire city on that
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: fourth down throw, fourth and eight.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: That throw, it's not just in the elite category.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's making its own category because that's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: how unbelievable it was.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: That throw, to me was the best through I've ever seen.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I noticed that Josh was watching some NFL football because
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: he had a tweet, and then at half time, I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: should Josha text, I'm like splattering in Chicago.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. That then would you end up saying
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: like I need one more touch?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: First off? I told you because it was twenty one
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: three and I said, you can't do that yet. You
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: can't do it because my biggest fear is premature splattering.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: A lot of people that fear is about other premature things.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: My fear is premature splattering because if you tweet out
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: it's a splattering in blank and then that team comes
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: back to win, that's the ultimate freezing cold take. You
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: will never live that down. I've never suffered a premature splattering.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: You won and never suffered.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Never slatter, never close, never even close. So I've waited
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: until the game's for sure over to say it's a splattering,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: but it's an inexact science. And at twenty one to three,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: you texted me privately. I didn't reveal this. You just
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: revealed this. You said it's a splattering in Chicago, and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: I said, can't do it yet. Maybe one more touchdown
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: and we can do it. We can't do it yet,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: and sure enough Chicago comes all the way back to win.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I screened shat the text, but I marked your name out.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: You and I tweeted it out and I said, I hope,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I hope it never comes out. Who sent this to me?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: It just came out. I'm still thought.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I still wish we could go back and he could
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: tweet that out just because the whole just stay in
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: college football all everything.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: That would would just be so funny. But yeah, you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: would love You're watching it. You're enjoying it right now
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit, aren't you.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Where's John Harbaugh going?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Not to the Titans as much as Cavas wanted me
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: to say yesterday, Wow, do we have any inkling of
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: who the Titans might beginning? I I have not my
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: ear to the ground at all at all.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Top three.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: That's clumb right there.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: It's a nice place to live.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: It's a great place, nice neighborhood source.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: I am hoping it's Arthur Smith. I am hoping it's Arthur.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Smith, non selfishly, no selfish tide of that whatsoever. Non selfish, No, absolutely, yeah,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: just for the betterment of the franchise. I want the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Titans to be great. I think Arthur Smith is the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: man to make them great. And then mustache he gets it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Good. So you're you're I'm going, Miami.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to take a total on
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: the national title game.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought you thinking about it, which would
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: be just like play up both things. I'm taking the over,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: give me the over. It's a great game. And honestly,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: good luck to you. Thank you. It'll be fun to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: watch forty seven and a half. That's over. That's an
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: over game, could be, could be under. Indiana gets up big,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Indiana gets up, Miami starts to press, and then they
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: either come back or Indiana or Indiana takes advantage and
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: picks more points. But there it'll be. Do you think
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a Indiana is going to like candle? Well,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: the game is candle. This game is eight and a
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: half Indian in half. Like, I'm taking Indiana eight and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: a half. I believe we have a potential splattery on
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: our hand. Where we sit back in the like going
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter, going, bro, they really did it
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: with this level of talent, Like this might be the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: best coaching we've ever seen in our entire lives.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: How do you are ten minutes to go in the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter? What's the commentary in the game. Is it
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: a one possession game? Is it still nip and tuck
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: or our Fowler in herb Street already eulogizing Miami and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: they're already crystallizing what the story of Indiana is. And
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: everyone's already worried on Miami. Message boards about which quarterback
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: we're gonna get in the portal, where is the mind
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: ten minutes to go in to get I see.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: This game where they're sitting there and Fowler's going on
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: and on about Indiana and how great of a season
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: they have and they've really gotten over the hurdle and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: look how amazing this is. And there's gonna be a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: there's a moment where it's sparks in Kirkirk Streets head
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: where it's like we've been giving a lot of flowers Indiana.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: He's gonna switch it. It's like Indian has been amazed,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: but we also have to give a lot of credit
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow Chris Paul and these Miami Hurricanes people want to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: talk about the the you being back, the U is back.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Regardless of the circumstances of what's happening in this game
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: right now, they have a big future ahead of them.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: That is kind of what in my head is going
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: to take place.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Sounds like either way, it's a double digit lead for
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Indiana at that point, yees, so it's out of reach.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Like games, games, you just.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: You just wait. Foul will be sitting there and they'll
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: be back and forth about how great Indiana is, but
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Kirk shouldn't be the one to flip the script on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: let's also talk about how great Miami is. That's what's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: going to take place in this game.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: It's pretty anti climactic what it is. I guess it's
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: right in line with what Indiana it's to me, this
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: is a bow on a great college football season. Yeah,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: but don't you want to see something down on the wire,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Just no doubt.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: I think we all would. I mean not based on
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: the show, I don't. But I think if Indiana goes
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: and they do what they've done this entire playoffs to
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: everybody they played against, it's a perfect boat to be.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Like this logo has never sniffed this, Like this has
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: been one of the coolest seasons we've ever watched we've
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: been a part of. I don't know if it's because
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: we've dove it into it more than ever as individuals
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: or the show, or it's actually that good football. It's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: that good and it's like if Indiana takes it here,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: and you can say a lot about Miami as well,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: like the you being back you know, the nineties or
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: nice days whenever that you was, It's like that's that'll
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: be exciting as well. But seeing that logo a Hoister
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Trophy after a dominant win as like this might have
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: been the best year of college football ever. That's what's exciting.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Hey, can I tell you something. I think it was
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: the best year either way?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Really, that's your for us.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Well, if if it's Vince flipped on the other side
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: that he's talking about it's a close game, we could
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: have ended on that, like you're saying it's going to
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: be a big win for Indiana and it's going to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: put a bow on the greatest or the best college
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: football we've seen. And he's like, oh, I think it's
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the best college football we've seen either way. And I'm like, well,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the other side of it is just a barn burner
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: of a game that we all love and we're like, damn,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: what a year.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Of college football. Either way, we're all winning. Either way,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: we've won, But now I have to find out who
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: wins because the only thing that matters is record exactly exactly.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: And again before the show, Clump was saying that we
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: have a verbal commitment for the show next year. I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: didn't know if we were allowed to announce that, but hey.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, I think we applaud it over on the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: other side. But now you we got to remember we're
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: in the world of college football. Verbal commitments, contract doesn't sign.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: We can't wait till April to reach back.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Out the pay Yeah, hey, let me ask you. Did
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: something happen recently to you? What's the deal with the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: verbal commit I mean you really forcefully said that did
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: something happen?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, just learning about what goes on, even the contract
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: that guests could be signed and you could pull with.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Demm Williams, I may go do a show with will Stein.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: You should and you should zoom me in or call
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: me and FaceTime me in.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: At some point, you guys buried the hatchet though I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: saw you talking. I saw you.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: We had a good little conversation with had a good
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: little conversation. We have a common friend that we were
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: both close with that we were kind of also growing
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: our friendship over. Want to come to a Kentucky game?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Nobody just to come out to Kentucky for the spring tour.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: No. I'll say this about Nebraska because it always comes
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: back to Nebraska on the show over the last three years.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: This is the most excited I've been to watch Nebraska.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: This next season. Oh yeah, this quarterback, this unlv CA,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I can't even pronounce his name. We've done it six
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: times yesterday, and I fucking love him, met him, saw
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: one clip.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with magic in his legs. Yeah, live arm.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: That was the scouting report, thirty six hundred yards last year.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: And the kid fucking he's got the juice. Yeah, he's
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: got the jew. Nebraska is in a great spot, some
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: say the best spot in recent years.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Fitting end to the show, Josh Pate completely punted on saying,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: if he's verbally committing to coming back next year.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Isn't that fitting.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: It's a fickle game. It's a fickle game out there.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: Reportedly I am, I'm reportedly verbally committed. Isn't that accurate?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: Clump's reporting it as Nako's put it out there yet
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: he has not put it out there yet.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: I don't have a gras think yet making graphic Coop.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: Can't go back on that.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, History.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Graphic. I feel good about it. Yeah, I feel good
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Feel good. Our boys, bake hugs, tiny kisses. Thank you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: for an amazing you know, it's une a plus everybody here,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: all the boys beaming in the back for reducing the show.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: It's been an amazing year. Thank you, Big hugs, tiny kisses.
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