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Episode 2 - Whose invited to the cookout · 4DAFAM

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What up, what up, what up? What's up with you, man? Same old same.
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Six mil. Keeping it trill. It's KG.
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Welcome to another episode of For The Fam Podcast. Yes, sir.
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How you feeling today, bro? I'm good, man. You know, it's about 95 degrees outside,
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but, you know, it's all good.
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Hey, it's summertime. You know what I'm saying? It's July. It's to be expected. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, what's on your mind today, bro?
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What you want to talk about? So got a couple of things,
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but one of the things we're going to talk about is being invited to the cookout
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and why we're so quick to invite everybody to the cookout when they do something
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that we deem as being black.
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Expand on that. So for me, when someone shows compassion or does something,
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the one that I saw last week was a white guy stepping in and defending a sister that was.
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Basically being accosted at a at a store by an older white lady and he stepped in to defend her.
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Every comment, this dude invited to the cookout, this dude invited to the cookout.
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Did he ask to come to the cookout?
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I mean, we're making a plate because we're not you know how we are. But did he ask to come?
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I feel you. I feel you. I understand exactly what you mean by that.
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And I also get annoyed by that very same thing is we as black people and I'm a black man.
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I can only speak as a black person, but it appears to me that we are way more
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inclusive when it comes to our culture as opposed to any other ethnic group.
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We're we're just you know like you said anyone who does anything favorable we
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want to invite them to the cookout we want to accept them and and that's not necessarily a bad thing,
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but no one's trying to invite us no one's including us in anything so why are
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we so acceptive. No, no, no, that's not.
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Why are we so accepting when everyone else is trying to exclude us, trying to kick us out?
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And even the ones that are not trying to exclude us, because you and I,
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obviously we know a whole lot of people.
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Every different culture that we can go to their home right now and be welcomed without any issues.
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Like I said, the problem is, is that we just want to constantly invite people over this way.
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Whereas, as you said, a lot of other cultures are just simply not necessarily
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trying to keep us out, but they're not putting up the bat sitting on saying,
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hey, barbecue over here or hey, party over here. Facts.
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Facts. And it is is. To give some examples for those who can't quite grasp what
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it is that we're talking about, as we were discussing a few minutes ago before we started recording,
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people like Haley Steinfeld,
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because she's one-eighth Black, now all of a sudden, she's, come on to the cookout. Why?
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That girl don't want to be black forget what
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she said in the movie that girl ain't trying to be
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black why is she invited to the cookout you know
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because adele dates rich paul she's invited
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to the cookout why no one
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no one does that except for us and and that's not to say that i'm a what's the
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word isolationist i'm not that right because you're welcome you show up you're
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gonna you're don't eat just like everybody else yeah yeah and i'm not saying
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that we don't need allies.
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I'm just saying that perhaps we should be
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a little more strategic with our invites since we're staying on this cookout
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thing you know what i'm saying right so so that's just that's just something
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that that i wanted to talk about and you know and and and uh to look at it from
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a different perspective.
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And first, let me say this. We always got to say this.
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Just because we're pro-black does not mean that we're anti-white or anti-Asian
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or anti-Hispanic, insert whatever ethnic group you will.
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But we are pro-black. So saying that from a pro-black perspective.
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We're 13 percent of the population, according to the latest census.
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I know everyone doesn't fill out a census form. So that 13 percent may or may
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not be accurate is probably not accurate.
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But let's bump it up and say five percent of people don't.
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That's 18 percent of the population.
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America, U.S., not global. I don't want to construe that. At 18%,
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we need allies to accomplish anything.
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We're going to need allies.
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Right. The latest election at 18%. If every black person would have voted for
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Kamala, she still would not have won.
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So we need allies. So we're not saying we don't need allies for the revolution
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brothers out there at 18 percent.
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18 percent and winning no type of war, not even close at 18 percent.
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We need allies and consider the fact that some of y'all ain't going to fight
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anyway. So reduce that 18 percent.
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Yeah, you get a lot of people out here running their mouth on a lot of these
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podcasts and you see it on on the reels that pop up on Instagram and YouTube
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talking about what they're going to do and what they're not going to do.
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And yet they're not really doing anything.
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Not doing anything except, like you said, running their mouths.
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So. So, yeah, we're not we're not saying that to say we're taking donations
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for a school that we still waiting on.
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Yeah, we ain't we ain't we ain't saying that to say that we we we don't need
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allies again. We're not isolationist. That's not what we're saying.
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We're just saying that sometimes we just need to dial it back and just to just
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pull it back a little bit.
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You know what I'm saying? It's all right to be cool.
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It's all right. We ain't trying to make enemies. But that don't mean you invited to the cookout.
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I'm friends with a whole lot of people who ain't never been invited to my house.
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I'm just saying. And they probably won't be. But that don't mean we're enemies.
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It's a whole lot of my co-workers that I'm cool with. If they want to go out
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and get a beer, we can go out and get a beer.
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Am I inviting you to my cookout?
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Probably not. Well, we come from a different generation, too.
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You can't just let everybody in your house. Facts.
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You know, like you. Some things you ain't supposed to see.
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I mean, I mean, let's just keep it real. Think about Will growing up.
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Don't let nobody in his house.
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All day. Don't go to that, though. All day.
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All day. It is almost like if we playing a game, if we playing chess.
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Is certain things that we just want to keep to ourselves certain things certain conversations.
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Sorry you're not privy to just like it's certain uh conversations that we're not privy to,
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if if she was on the other foot and i get that and that's okay nor do i want
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to be exactly because if it doesn't involve me directly why do i care what you're
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talking about exactly if it doesn't involve me directly,
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I don't expect you to invite me into the room just to appease me,
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just to make me feel good. I don't care.
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Right, right, right, right. And I get it. I get it.
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I mean, there are some topics that as a black man, if I'm with a group of Caucasian
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people, maybe I don't need to hear it.
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Maybe I may take it the wrong way.
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Maybe I won't quite relate to what's being said because I'm black.
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Just like I don't care how much you hang around the hood as a Caucasian,
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there are some things that you will never understand because you're not black.
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Rachel Dolezal, everybody, well, I shouldn't say everybody, but we all remember
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her, you know, the woman who faked being black and probably still lives to this day.
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Even her, there are things that she'll never understand because you are not black.
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And anytime she wants to code switch back to being white, she can't.
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Is she invited to the cookout? No. I'm just saying.
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No. Not at all. Look, like you said, we'll hand you this plate.
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But no, you're not invited to the cookout. We can't trust you.
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It's just that simple. We can't trust. Hey, wait.
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I shouldn't say trust because there's some cats we can't trust that are black,
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you know, like Mr. Donalds and Mr. Scott.
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We can't trust them cats. neither so maybe maybe we should exclude them from the cookout also.
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Yeah y'all can't even drive down the street like yeah just don't even come on
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this block the neighborhood nothing we'll just throw your plate we'll leave
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your plate at the beginning at the front of the neighborhood yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah hey and and and then right,
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something that you brought up previously when we were discussing this we want to,
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invite outsiders, quote unquote, to the cookout.
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And at the same time, it's family that we don't even want to come to the cookout.
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Make that make sense. So I saw that a few times growing up, you know,
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certain people when they popped up, came walking through the back door,
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you know, would look that funny or different.
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But yeah, you're right. But we were willing to reach out and invite other folks
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into the house when your own flesh and blood wasn't really welcome.
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And I get it. I get it. Anybody's invite can be revoked.
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I get it. But yeah, we should try and mend those fences before we start trying
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to accept everyone else into the fold, if that makes sense.
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No, let's try and tighten it up with us.
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And then we can start bringing in other people into the fold.
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So, yeah, it's just something that we as black people need to consider,
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need to start thinking about.
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Again, I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live.
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I'm not the authority figure on that, nor will I ever be, nor do I want to be.
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Just something to think about, you know, food for thought. So next I want to
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talk about some current events and one in particular.
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It's at the forefront, probably because Superman just came out.
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I'm going to see it. You went to see it. Did you like it? Absolutely.
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I liked it also. I liked it more after I had a couple of conversations,
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one with you and then one with a buddy of mine who was a huge Superman fan just like you.
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I liked it more the next day after I thought about it. And then,
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you know, a couple of things hit me as I was sitting in my room.
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One of the biggest things I don't understand, which I'm sure you're going to
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touch on, is the conservative backlash of the movie itself.
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Criticizing someone who was created by two Jewish immigrants who put Superman
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to the forefront in their mind.
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To fight fascism in his
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comics 100 to jewish immigrants
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that's right but not superman too woke always
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have been always will be he's been beat nazis up since the 40s there you go
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not only nazis he also fought against the clan absolutely yeah okay yep yep
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so so so so yeah this whole thing about Superman being woke,
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it really sticks in my craw.
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First of all, the whole woke argument sticks in my craw.
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Whenever I hear it, my eyes glaze over because I'm just like,
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here you are again, trying to basically dog whistle about racism.
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And honestly, I'd respect them more if you just be a man about it just say what's
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on your mind but i seen a clip of uh.
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Kellyanne Conway back from the dead. Kellyanne Conway, I seen a clip of her
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on Fox News talking about we don't go to the movies to be lectured to or told how to think.
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Since when? What what the F are you talking about?
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Did you feel that way when The Mule came out?
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Did you feel that way when The Patriot came out? Are you serious?
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Did you feel that way about Schindler's List?
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Don't ever talk that stupid man. I'm trying so hard not to cuss.
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Do not talk that ignorant mess.
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Talk about we don't go to movies to be lectured to and told how to think.
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A good story always gives you perspective and challenges your thought process.
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I mean, we're supposed to learn from books, movies.
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It's a part of the learning process. Mass media is supposed to challenge us
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in ways that we wouldn't ordinarily be challenged.
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What I say, you know, those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
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Facts. And, I mean, we see so many things right now that are happening that
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just make absolutely zero sense that people are not more in uproar about what
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they're seeing in their day-to-day lives.
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But that's probably just because they're too busy complaining about a movie.
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A fictional character. A fictional character.
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A fictional character. Fictional. Wait until they see Miles Morales in a Spider-Man
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movie. They're probably going to boycott Marvel.
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Because I can't believe we got a Hispanic playing Spider-Man like he's new.
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But, you know, this actually goes all the way back to when...
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Nick Fury was first when Samuel Jackson was first cast as Nick Fury.
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And there was a there there there was a certain sect of the Internet that were going crazy.
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Nick Fury is not black. We can go to Star Wars.
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Why is there a black stormtrooper? Well, how do you know there were never black
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stormtroopers? They always had hoods on.
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Fifty percent of them could have been black for all that, you know,
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they always had hoods on. But It's that.
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And I guess it's grown louder over the last 10 years. I mean,
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I have a good idea as to why.
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But there's always been like this certain section of the Internet that tends
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to cry about fictional characters and things that really don't matter.
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And it's just like, man, just just look, stop saying it doesn't follow continuity
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source material. Just say that you're racist.
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It was funny to me that the sort of a spoiler, but not really the country.
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Jahanpour that's represented in the movie.
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Jesse Waters on TV saying, oh, so now Superman fights for Uganda.
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Sorry, I didn't see Uganda in the movie.
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So again, with your racist dog whistle, be a man about it, bro.
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The biggest issue with stuff like that, when they bring up, you're saying Uganda.
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There was nothing in those three or four scenes where that country was was shown
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in the movie that said right where that country was no at all never the people didn't represent it,
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at all the flag didn't represent it i don't even think they showed their flag
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did they no that's my point.
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There was nothing to show you
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that this was in africa right at all
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or that they were talking about africa other
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than the little dark-skinned kid who picked up the superman flag right that's
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it that's it that's it so i mean without putting your racism on display you
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are so putting your racism on display.
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But not only that, and I know we said that we're not going to get political
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in all of our podcasts, but to me,
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and I could be in left field on this, but when you don't have policies.
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All you have to talk about is culture wars. And that's all they do.
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All they do is tell you what you should and should not be mad about.
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I don't need you to tell me what I should like and what I shouldn't like.
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So all of a sudden, I'm not supposed to like Superman, who is an American staple.
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Not supposed to like Superman now.
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Man, stop it. So what? Like they were they were trying to make that big stink
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about gas stoves versus electric stoves.
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Huh? Are you serious? So now I'm supposed to be mad at electric stoves?
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Yep. Man, knock it off. Really?
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What does that have to do? It's my choice. What type of stove I want to have
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in my house unless you're going to pay for mine. I don't care what you think.
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No, quit. Quit trying to tell us what we should and shouldn't be mad about.
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Back in covid, you telling people not to wear a mask, you politicize covid,
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a health crisis, whether you believe covid is real or not. That's a whole nother issue.
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What's wrong with wearing a mask? What's wrong with trying to be healthy?
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What's wrong with telling kids to eat healthy lunches like they were mad at Michelle Obama?
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Who is she to tell me what to feed my kid?
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So you don't want your kid to eat healthy? Which, by the way, they're doing now.
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Literally everything that she wanted to implement. I mean,
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I was I was talking to one of the kids yesterday about this and we laughed about
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it because he said he remembers them joking about being mad when they took the
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vending machine out when they were in high school.
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And he said they used to joke about like, man, that's Michelle Obama's fault
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because they had the healthy choices in the vending machine. Right.
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So that was him joking about it. Right.
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These cats were on TV calling for her head. Yeah, they were.
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You're a socialist. Who are you to tell me what to feed my kids? Yeah.
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And literally now this gravel voice, so-and-so is on TV who knows nothing about anything healthy.
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I don't even think his voice is gravel, but go ahead.
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Anything healthy is now telling us the exact same thing that she told us over a decade ago. Yeah.
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Hey, let's put some healthy choices in school. Let's exercise more. Yeah.
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Which, by the way, we've always seen the first ladies get out there in the forefront
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and promote something. Right.
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That's their job. Nancy Reagan, say no to drugs. Yep. You and I both know that
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she was everywhere when we were kids. Yep.
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You know, Barbara Bush with the reading. Oh, man.
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The other George Bush's wife. Man, I was about to say tipper,
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but it ain't tipper. But all of them were trying to do something that benefited
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the children of this country.
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Yeah. And she was called a socialist for it. Mm hmm.
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Mm hmm. A socialist. Culture were. Culture were.
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But it goes back to what you said a few minutes ago when you have no policies to discuss. Yeah.
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You have to dream up things to talk about. Yeah. Like I'll give you an example going back to Superman.
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So conservatives have been talking about the movie forever. Well,
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for at least the last three or four weeks when people started getting early
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screens of the movie talking about how woke it was.
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One, it's woke to you because journalists are in the forefront.
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The importance of journalism was at the forefront of that movie.
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That part, which goes into what we talked about on our previous podcast. Right.
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While quietly, it has an 82% on
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Rotten Tomatoes and 93%, I mean from the critics, and 93% from the fans.
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So all that nonsense you're talking, you're speaking to who?
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Your base. No one is listening to you as it pertains to going to see that movie.
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Right. If you're a Superman fan or a comic book fan, you already know what Superman is about. Right.
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So when you're walking in there, you're walking in there knowing that at one
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point he fought Nazis in the Klan. Right. So no, he's not woke.
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I don't I don't I don't get the reason to try and make Superman a partisan issue
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that that that's that's the part that these things should not be partisan.
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A comic book, unless it's a comic book hero that's like intended to be political,
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these things should not be politicized.
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A stove should not be politicized. A showerhead.
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A showerhead should not be politicized.
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All of these things, electric vehicles, even though I'm not a fan of Elon Musk,
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electric vehicles should not be politicized.
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If you want one, go buy one.
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And if you don't, cool. Who cares? You got an option.
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No one's trying to force you to buy an EV. I
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don't I get it but
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I don't get it and I guess I should say I
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don't understand why others don't see it
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that's that's my biggest thing and to
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get to get back on point because we started this discussion talking about
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Superman have you seen
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this has been Dean
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Cain I saw something about something
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may that he may have said but oh wow
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i didn't even click oh wow so so so
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so dude then made a complete ass of himself basically talking
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about the immigration points that you were hitting earlier he's talking about
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this is why he thinks superman is too woke because of the immigration an emphasis
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on the movie and then the internet for all of his flaws clapped back real hard at dude.
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But okay I know I don't mean to cut you off but.
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Maybe I'm not seeing. They talked about immigration. What, maybe four minutes in the movie?
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If that, I think it's just unspoken because he's an alien that,
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you know. But here's the thing.
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In the Lois and Clark series with Dean Cain, he got served immigration papers.
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And the internet was like dude how can
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you say it's not about immigration when you yourself portraying
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superman were served immigration papers so
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it's like bro your hypocrisy or your
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idiocracy maybe both it's like
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well on display here like you don't even know what you're talking about bro
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oh the one that was on the cw well remember
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when i think his mom walked in the house she
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was talking about calling immigration
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smallville yeah smallville yeah and she turned around and said we have to do
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the right thing and he was like so did you do the right thing when you kept
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me there you go hidden there you go she's like that was different but that's
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always going to be the argument right it's like friday what about that time
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you try to jump in a smoke backyard Right.
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That was different. Right. No, it's not. It's not.
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But for them, it's always different.
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Yeah, it's it. Nothing applies when it's them, which also just frustrates me
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so much about the Supreme Court and everything, because now that Republicans
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have the power, it's different.
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But when Democrats got power, it's, oh, no, we're looking at this from the traditional
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aspect and the forefathers didn't want this to happen.
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So we got to rule against it. Yada, yada, yada, yada.
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But now that we know who.
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We don't we don't we don't see it like that. We don't know. Now our president
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basically got executive authority to do whatever he wants to.
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Come on, man. You can't have it both ways. And that's my issue is they try and have it both ways.
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And it's why their arguments are so elementary and go in one ear and right out the other.
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Not that I'm above your perspective, but do better.
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I don't think it's it's definitely not that we're above a perspective. We just we read.
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And when you read, you don't believe every single thing that a politician tells
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you. You know, we said it in the first episode.
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Just because we vote one way doesn't mean that we believe everything that that
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politician we voted for.
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So if they do something that's crazy, we're going to say something about it
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or have an opinion about what's going on. I think we probably said enough about Superman.
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So now it's time for my favorite rant.
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I'm still working on that, y'all.
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Rant about a random topic. And since we're both Bears fans, I want to rant about ESPN.
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And I'm not going to name the journalist. I don't think he deserves to be named.
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But he basically said, that the Bears didn't have, well, no,
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I don't want to put words in his mouth.
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He said the Bears get a B-grade for the offseason.
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While that's not terrible, it's also not great. Right.
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And I'm like, based on what, my guy?
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Yeah, because by week three, if the Bears are 3-0, they're not good enough.
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They're the worst 3-0 team in history. If they're 0-3, they're right where they're supposed to be.
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If they're 2-1, oh, yeah, they should have lost two of those games by 20 points.
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It doesn't matter, it seems, with ESPN what they do. And we understand that
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the team has not been great. We get that.
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But it doesn't matter what they do.
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Last season, Caleb Williams could have thrown 40 touchdowns,
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and they would have said, well, he should have thrown 50.
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I seen something this week, just this week, where someone was saying that his ceiling is Jordan Love.
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And I'm like, huh? But then they're like, but the probability of him being a bust is like.
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Percent which I guess is true for everyone but it's just like based on what
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based on what what have you seen yeah based on what nothing,
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where where where are you getting the Jordan Love comparison it's just like
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really dude it is the the the bias is just like and and and I get it they do
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things for clicks I think they try and be,
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outlandish they look for hot takes you know
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what I'm saying because that draws traffic but it's
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just like man you gotta be realistic with
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your analysis otherwise you lose someone like me
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i just go okay i see what you want i'm not clicking on one of your articles
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i'm not clicking on your link ever again you know it's just like like the the
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the b minus grade like dude basically downplayed every free agent signing basically
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said we didn't have a good draft.
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Didn't mention the fact that we got a whole new coaching staff
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with great coaches and it's just like how how can you look at all of these things
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that have occurred and basically give us a c well just not give any credit at
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all yeah like if you based on the grade the grade is bad in general,
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but to not give any credit at all well we we don't know if Caleb Williams can
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can do this or Or if he's basically saying we don't know if he's smart enough.
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Really? Like, he's not smart enough.
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Based on what? Based on what? Where's your evidence?
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Where's your proof? In Oklahoma, hell, in high school, and at USC, he excelled.
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All three stops, which is why he was a five-star recruit.
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Now, I'm not saying he's going to succeed just because he's a bear,
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you know, just because he's on the bears.
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But can we get more proof, more data, or evidence as to what this team is going
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to be with them under Ben Johnson's offense?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need more data. I agree with you 150% on that. And it is just...
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I don't I don't know, man. I mean, you know, we love the Bears and I mean, like we love the Bears.
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So take it with a grain of salt. We could be biased.
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Yeah, we probably are biased.
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Just call it what it is. But even with my bias, I can still be somewhat realistic.
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Yeah. In my analysis. You know what I'm saying? I'm not I'm not going to sit
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here and tell you that the Bulls are about to win the championship.
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I'm not going to sit here and tell you the Bulls deserve an A for their offseason.
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I say the Bulls deserve an F.
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And that's me being a lifelong Bulls fan. A G. A G.
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I didn't like either of their draft picks. They haven't done anything in free agency.
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So, yeah, I can be honest about it even when it's my team.
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So, yeah, for these dudes to, like, just diss the Bears like this is just like. But it's every year.
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And it's every year. Every single year. The whole critique has been offensive line.
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Bears need to upgrade the offensive line.
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Bears need to upgrade the offensive line. Every year, Bears need to upgrade the offensive line.
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Well, we've upgraded the offensive line and you still don't like it.
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Hell, we upgraded the damn offense.
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Basically, basically.
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Went out and got a stud for wide receiver as long as he lives up to his potential.
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And that's still not good enough. Nope, nope, nope.
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Nothing's ever good enough. And that's the part that frustrates me.
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It's like, what do you want the Bears to do?
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And again, I think part of it is they understand that the Bears fan base is
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passionate and they know it generates clicks and comments and all of that.
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I mean, hell, we're sitting here talking about it. But still,
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it's just like, hey, man, knock it off.
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Go go do that with some other organization, some other franchise.
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Like, let us just be us.
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Let us enjoy the offseason. You know, you're you're you're you're making these
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assumptions, you're you're making these analysis and training camp hasn't even started yet.
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It's like like you said, just wait and see.
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Can we can we just wait and see? Can we wait until week four before you start
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trying to publish negative stuff, please? They never do.
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They absolutely never do.
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Hey, also, just a side note. The fever just torched Dallas.
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I haven't even been paying attention. Yeah, Beckers and Caitlin Clark put on
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the show. That's what's up.
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What's up so so i don't
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know man that that's that's that's my work anything you want to rant about real
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quick honestly nothing i could think of off the top of my head i think you've
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covered a lot of it i could touch on on the bulls for a second so we have watched what a decade plus,
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of mediocrity yeah maybe a
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little bit less i'm sorry a little bit more yeah
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i about to say maybe a little more I mean I was
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about to cuss but we haven't we haven't been in my
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opinion we haven't been competitive since the Jimmy Butler era
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so explain to me why we would give an extension to a coach who has proven to
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be a good regular season coach somewhere else and really hasn't done anything here.
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Where's the somewhere else? Florida.
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Oh, okay, because I was about to say OKC.
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He won some national titles. Yeah, okay.
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And had a stacked team. Right, but even in OKC we saw where the offense could be dominant,
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but there was never any his style of basketball
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basketball when he coaches his teams don't really have
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great defense he doesn't focus or put
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any emphasis on defense kind of like the opposite what we
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saw with Thibodeau when he was in Chicago yeah yeah only defense
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and not not a whole lot of focus on offense right and the reason we were able
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to generate so much offense because we had D Rose and Jimmy Butler right that
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that's the only reason we were able to generate so much offense and of course
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the you know the putbacks offensive rebounds from Noah and whatnot.
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But it drives me crazy that there's rumors that he's about to get an extension
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or may have already gotten it.
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So two things with that.
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They're going to relate. I'm going to tie these together to get back to the
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Bears. Congratulations, Ryan Poles, for getting your extension.
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That was another thing that was in the article. They say the brother didn't deserve it.
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And just like based on what the brother has rebuilt the team from the ground up.
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The salary cap was an absolute mess when he got here. Now we got salary cap.
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We can make moves. We're flexible.
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He doesn't have a lot to do with the new stadium. But, I mean,
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you can't leave him out of that discussion.
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So, yes, that brother deserves an extension. Good job. You.
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Like I said, you fixed the salary cap. You basically got a whole new team in,
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what, three, four years? You got a whole new team.
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Did he bat $1,000? No one ever does. Yes, he's missed on a couple of free agent
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trades or pickups, whatever you want to call it.
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Yeah, he kind of missed on Iberflues. But, hey, he's no one bats a thousand.
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Brother deserves another contract. On the flip side of that,
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the Bulls, AK and dude who working under him.
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Man, get all of them dudes up out of here.
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They're all terrible. Man, was that my phone or yours?
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I think it was yours. It was the time. OK, my bad, my bad, my bad.
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So. So anyway, what was I? Well, what was I?
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AK, AK and his assistant, those guys. Let me backtrack.
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Alonzo Ball messed up their players.
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I'll give you a small pass for that. No one can predict an injury. So.
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Ball getting injured, ruined the ball, Levine, DeRozan.
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Experiment. I'll give you a small pass for that.
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But since then, you have done absolutely nothing.
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We basically got a team full of guards.
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Not hit other than Bucelis. I like Bucelis. I don't think you've hit on your draft picks.
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I like Io, but we already got a team full of guards, so we kind of didn't need them.
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P-Dub not only was a terrible draft pick, but then you gave them an extension, a huge one.
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You gave Vooch an extension.
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One dude is way past his prime. Nobody else in the league would have gave Vooch that extension.
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Nobody else in the league would have gave P-Dub that extension.
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So it's just like, yeah, these dudes really need to go.
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And like you said, if Donovan gets his, another extension that nobody else in
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the league would probably do.
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So we're working on two regimes, not the ownership, because the ownership,
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you know, he's just going to hold on to this team until somebody makes him sell it.
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But we've had two front office regimes that we have disliked.
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Now, again, we're fans, so we could be biased. However, my eyes work.
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Right. I may wear glasses, but I still can see without them. Right.
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We have not made any moves to get better. Nope.
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And what I mean by getting better, I mean like getting to the point where we can contend. Right.
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Hell with the Pistons. Not just the playoff game, which seems okay to them.
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We are the worst team in that division, and it's not even close. It's not.
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Milwaukee's better than us. We already know Detroit's better than us,
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and Cleveland will win the division again. Right.
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So we've done nothing to get better. And then what do we do?
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We as fans, we can't wait for Lonzo Ball to get back. Trade him for nothing.
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Hey, we're going to help. To Cleveland. Don't.
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Up, go and take 80-94 on in Ohio, take a couple turns. In the division!
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In the division so he can come back and kill us. Good job. Good job.
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Yeah. We could talk for hours about Chicago sports teams and the disappointments we've had since 1998,
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but we've had two bright spots for both of us being fans of either baseball team in Chicago,
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but that's it those are the only two other than us going to the Super Bowl in 0506 that's it,
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this is my gripe and and we've had this conversation this is my gripe with Chicago
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sports one I don't like Chicago sports media but two the owners of all the teams
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are ridiculously cheap.
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And always have been. Always have been.
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L.A., New York, Chicago.
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Third largest market. We should be attracting free agents left and right.
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It has always baffled me that Chicago is not a free agent destination for a lot of players.
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It's always baffled me. And it comes down to one thing.
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I mean, because if you excel, the city loves you forever, forever.
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You're getting endorsements. You're getting commercials. You're getting national
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endorsements on top of that.
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Won't get is a big contract. So two things.
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One, I said the only bright spot since 98 was the two World Series titles in
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the Super Bowl appearance. My bad.
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We have three Stanley Cups in a five-year span. Facts. We forget about them. But guess what?
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They broke down for a reason. There was a scandal.
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A lot of people were fired. Some people were arrested. It is what it is.
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They will rebuild and win again before the Bulls win again. Sure.
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And going back to what you just said about the city loving you Angel Reese has
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been there what a year and a half she can get traded tomorrow she is a Chicago,
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period and they're terrible they will love her from now to the end of the time
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because of the effort they have seen her put in on the court and they're terrible right.
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They're terrible but they will like she is part,
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especially with you know all the outside noise going on
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yeah we could have talked about that too with rg3 but let's
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not yeah we don't want to talk about yeah yeah yeah but no
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i i feel you take take take for instance somebody like
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sosa until he changed himself into a white man chicago loved him the dude just
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weird yeah he is weird but until that happened even though he never won anything
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chicago loved him so yeah if you come to chicago and you excel,
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the city will wrap their arms around you.
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But you gotta come.
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I get it. I get it. That.
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Mess up the contracts. I get it. But somehow, some way we got it.
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We can't we can't depend on on the draft.
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You know what I'm saying? We can't. And and that's why Ryan Poles deserves that
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extension to bring this full circle, because he's come in and he's changed that culture. Yeah.
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For the Bears, not for Chicago, for the Bears.
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He's changed that culture to now Free agents want to come play here Drafting
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Caleb Williams Brings a quarterback That wide receivers Especially if Adunze
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and DJ Moore Show out That's going to attract other receivers To be like man
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I want to go there Running backs I want to go there.
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Defensive players If Dennis Allen get this defense The way we think he's going
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to get this defense I want to go play with them And if Caleb Williams doesn't,
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like you just said, what he's supposed to do.
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In the offseason, you have people like DJ Moore in the dunes.
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They're talking to other receivers. Like, hey, man, he's doing his thing.
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He's studying. He knows the play better. He'll get you the ball.
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But we had to go through the rough times to get that.
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We can't wait on the number one draft pick every 20 years. You know what I'm saying?
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We can't wait on D. Rose to be number one again for the Bulls.
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We can't wait on Caleb Williams. I mean, we got him now, but after he's gone,
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we can't wait 20 years to get another star quarterback.
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Right. Well, we can't wait for Mitch Trubisky.
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Lord have mercy, G. All right. That's it. That's it. That was the one.
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Look, we want to thank y'all for tuning in to the second episode of For The Fan Podcast.
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Once again, I'm Six Mill. Keep that in trail. OK, G.
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We still working on those socials, but once we get them all down,
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we'll post that information.
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Until next time, peace, y'all. Later.