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S5 E14 - Wine, Wealth, and Murder_ The Robert Dahl Horror · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh in person because like on camera, they
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  Speaker 1: Now I think we might need to change our members
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  Speaker 1: about ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. It's only going to get better.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's only going to get better, guys.
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  Speaker 1: It well, guys, tonight, I wasn't going to drink. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to stick to sparkling water. But I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: toast you, Lama with sparkling water that I had to
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and mix some mine with some paint pills.
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  Speaker 1: So We'll see how tonight goes.
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  Speaker 2: But I love this for our first official show together.
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  Speaker 1: So I am drinking a nineteen ninety nine Domain Carness
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  Speaker 1: Brute Rose, and the tasting notes say on the nose,
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety nine rose welcomes the senses with the
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  Speaker 1: aromas of wild raspberries and strawberries, fresh cut watermelon, peaches,
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  Speaker 1: and a subtle oral hint of orange blossom and rose petal.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds delicious.
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  Speaker 1: The sophisticated and dry palette displays supple layered flares of nectarine, raspberry,
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  Speaker 1: and ginger, and it says it was augmented by exceptional
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  Speaker 1: weather conditions during the nineteen ninety nine growing season in harvest,
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  Speaker 1: and says this wine showcases energy, depth and complexity, just
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  Speaker 1: like Terry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: What are you drinking?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? What am I drinking? Oh? I went grocery shopping
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  Speaker 2: Sunday and I took I took pictures of all the
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  Speaker 2: bottles of wine. So that way for the future episodes,
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  Speaker 2: I could like pair my wine with the show and
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  Speaker 2: I could be like elbow be you know, get this
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  Speaker 2: one that I have the picture of this one right here,
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  Speaker 2: because he needs.
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  Speaker 1: Now we should probably tell people who elbow Feet is
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  Speaker 1: in case they don't watch couch court or not on
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  Speaker 1: the court, They're probably going, who is this elbow feet person?
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  Speaker 2: Elbow Feet is my paramore. We've been together for thirteen years.
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  Speaker 2: He's very active in chats as much as he can,
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  Speaker 2: being super supportive. He is fabulous and very funny, and
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  Speaker 2: if you come in owhile, you'll get a meet him too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm almost wondering if he's becoming more popular than I am.
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  Speaker 2: I think he might be. He is more intereresting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking we would to find a karaoke place I
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  Speaker 1: love for us.
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  Speaker 2: He will just sing for it. Listen at the Airbnb.
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  Speaker 2: I will just sing that. He'll sing whatever you he
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  Speaker 2: was singing together. Anyway, I digress. So I was at
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  Speaker 2: the grocery store. Who is elbow feet? He's wonderful anyway,
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  Speaker 2: So this didn't pair it with the case we have
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  Speaker 2: today because I saw the label and I was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: I like that one first. Okay, so I'm drinking sheep Thrills.
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  Speaker 2: I don't Oh, you probably can't see it because my
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  Speaker 2: brain is drinking. It's called sheep Thrills and there's pictures
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  Speaker 2: of sheep with parachutes attached to them. And I love
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  Speaker 2: a good pun more than anything do. I love puns.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's a Pino grazio from Italy. Oh fancy,
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  Speaker 2: And the back of the bottle it says for centuries
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  Speaker 2: ventures in the pasture lands of Italy have protected their
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  Speaker 2: grapes from wandering sheep who loved the snack on them.
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  Speaker 2: I love snacks too, I do do. Lucky for us,
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  Speaker 2: the ventors prevailed, and today we can enjoy sheep thrills.
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  Speaker 2: Pino Grazio a delightful, medium bodied white wine with delicate
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  Speaker 2: floral aromas, fresh fruit flavors and a crisp, elegant finish.
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  Speaker 2: Delicious on its own or paired with grim shrimp. It
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  Speaker 2: was made for me. Everybody knows how much I love shrimp.
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  Speaker 1: That is you sushi, no.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Salad's okay, and like vegetarian fair. Oh look,
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  Speaker 2: it's for everybody and jolly chilled. And so that's what
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  Speaker 2: I got today. It was very dramatic. I'm sorry, no,
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  Speaker 2: a little dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: I that's why I mean. We've got dramatic an extra.
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  Speaker 1: Is this not going to be great? Guys?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, and I'm going to need you
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  Speaker 1: to send me a picture of the label so I
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  Speaker 1: can go and check it out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, dude, it's quite delicious. I just poured me a
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  Speaker 2: glass of it. It's a little dry, but I love it.
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  Speaker 2: There's my mom My.
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  Speaker 1: Mom's calling me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a was calling me back because I saw I
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  Speaker 2: missed a call from her, and so I tried to
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  Speaker 2: call her before I went on. She didn't answer, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I know she's gonna call me back
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  Speaker 2: as soon as like a lie, and she did and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'm live.
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  Speaker 1: I have to tell you I am so excited to
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  Speaker 1: meet Mama Lama and all Blue Beaten person. Plus our
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  Speaker 1: AP is going to be in Ohio. MS. Right is.
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Do have another announcement? But I may wait to give it,
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  Speaker 1: okay or maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Let's save it for the end. Keep
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  Speaker 2: people in suspense for the show.
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  Speaker 1: Want to know something very exciting. You have to stick.
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  Speaker 2: Around, yes, stick around for the end for whatever secrets
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  Speaker 2: Terry has. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into.
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  Speaker 2: All, right, guys. This episode is called Wine, Wealth and Murder,
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  Speaker 2: The Robert Dall Horror and Buckle up, you guys, because
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a bumpy ride. Okay. So I
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  Speaker 2: want to start off this story with a quote from
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  Speaker 2: tech entrepreneur and wine writer Lou Pradue. Yes is his name,
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  Speaker 2: and I am obsessed with saying it. Lou Purdue. Lou Purdue.
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  Speaker 2: I was singing when I was writing this, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: but what he said in an interview about this case
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  Speaker 2: really highlights what we're going to be talking about tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes like this quote, the money makes people crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Money is intoxicating, and when you nix money and wine,
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  Speaker 2: I think you get intoxicated to the second or third
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  Speaker 2: power end quote. And tonight we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: what happens when that intoxication, that greed, and the house
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  Speaker 2: of cars that was built on top of it comes
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  Speaker 2: tumbling down and leads to murder. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: something you guys. I don't know if you're ready.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you're ready. Because Napa is
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  Speaker 1: the second happiest place on Earth. You've got Disney World
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  Speaker 1: and you've got Napa. So oh, Napa Valley. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on, It's the land of vineyards, soft jazz, and
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  Speaker 1: people who think a shartooty board is a personality trait
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  Speaker 1: that would be me. And I didn't say shark Cucci board.
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  Speaker 1: I said charchoutary board.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, now Sureucci.
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  Speaker 1: Have you not seen that scocie?
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't you.
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  Speaker 1: So if my bestie pops in the chat, Cheryl, she
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: gave me a shark cuterie board, but it says I
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  Speaker 1: can't say this, So it's shark Cucci and it's got
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  Speaker 1: a picture of a shark.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Where you get to Ohio, So Napa Valley is a
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  Speaker 1: region where the wine is dry, but the scandals guys
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  Speaker 1: are very, very juicy. And walking straight into that fermented
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  Speaker 1: fantasy was a man named Robert Dahl named double H.
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  Speaker 1: Now double H was just a one full husband. I
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  Speaker 1: actually have a fine What is this? It is actually
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  Speaker 1: from a vineyard. It is a vine that the grapes
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  Speaker 1: stormly grow on.
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  Speaker 2: That is very cool. I didn't know there was going
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  Speaker 2: to be props, so I.
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  Speaker 1: Am no, it's going to go in my new podcast studio.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be on the wall. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: There's mister Robert Dahl. Now guys don't like him, just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, don't like him.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it kind of looks like my best friend's ex.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell her all about it later.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Robert Dahl was a man who radiated charm, ambition,
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  Speaker 1: and just enough confidence to make people believe him, at
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  Speaker 1: least at first. So it's kind of like a car
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  Speaker 1: salesman right now, it was a Minnesota transplant with a
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  Speaker 1: checker pasted and guys. He reinvented himself in Napa Valley
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  Speaker 1: as a bold entrepreneur, launching wine in beer ventures with
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  Speaker 1: flash flare and some questionable financial foundations. He was a
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  Speaker 1: smooth talker with a taste for the spotlight. But behind
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  Speaker 1: the glossy labels in vineyard views was a pattern of
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  Speaker 1: broken promises, failed businesses, and a trail of betrayed investors.
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  Speaker 1: To some, he was a visionaries, to others, he was
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  Speaker 1: a con man. To me, he was a narcissist ass hat. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: But in the end, Robert Doll's carefully crafted image collapsed
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  Speaker 1: under the weight of his own deception. Guys, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave behind a legacy, but he left behind a cautionary
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  Speaker 1: tale and also traumatized thousands of grapes. Okay, thousands of.
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  Speaker 2: Grapes the grapes, Robert Grace, I mean, stressed grapes don't
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  Speaker 2: make good wine.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't. Stressed grapes doesn't. No, they need to be Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But Robert wasn't always swirling pinot and talking about terrier. Nope.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty two, Robert Devall was living the American dream
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  Speaker 1: in Minnesolta. How to do with that? Minnesota?
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry man. So he was in his early forties. He
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  Speaker 1: had a beautiful wife and three children. So he was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and in his view as a successful businessman
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  Speaker 1: who had just sold his company, Dura Band International. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: They made anti microbio cleaners to fight mold in construction products,
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  Speaker 1: and according to him, his company was purchased for twelve
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. Twelve million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, ad buys any of my ideas for millions of dollars?
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  Speaker 1: I have so many ideas. But he said he received
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  Speaker 1: only five hundred thousand after the buyer filed for bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a significant difference. But okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also the product didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Spoiled little there, spoilers.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Hi ju ju. Being from Kentucky, you're about to find
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: out what Robert did.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: He traumatized, not good.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: A lot of grapes, A lot of grapes, and he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: killed people. But this did not stop Robert from pursuing
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: his next entrepreneur dream. He took that money, uprooted his family,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and moved to California, where he was determined to own
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his own vineyard in the exclusive Napa Valley. But guys,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I don't know about you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: How in the hell do you transition from mold products
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to making murlow? Okay? So I'm going to just say
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to need a little more than a LinkedIn
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: update on his profile to feel secure before I believe him.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That's fair. Well, I mean, if we've learned anything from
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the Karen Reid trial is that you can put anything
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you want on your LinkedIn and the company Aperture won't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: check and we'll hire you. Oh boy, Sorry, there's probably
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be some Karen ree references in here. Do you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: have a watch to check out my show Couch Groblama
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Live every day for that anyway, But back to this story,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: while we're here to tonight. That is gorgeous. I've never
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: been to California, and gorgeous anyway.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So we need to do live shows.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: There, I agreed. So the Napa Valley has a certain
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: allure that attracts all sorts of dreamers, from Silicon Valley
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: tycoons to Wall Street brows, to rock stars and movie stars.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone wants their hands on a piece of that beautiful pie.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, who does it? That's amazing and beautiful. However,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: one simply does not just come into town and try
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to start a wine business. Oh no, no, no, It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: very tough to break into the scene unless you're coming
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in with a buttload, buttload of cash. But the cash
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: will only take you so far because you must also
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: be extremely, extremely trustworthy, as doing business in wine country
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: is often very very personal. It is exclusive good luck.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: But you know what, that didn't deter Robert. No, no, no.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: He showed up in Napa with his wife, his kids,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and just enough swagger to con a region still with
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Themoier's and startups. Okay, he bought a one point four
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: million dollar home. He was ambitious, charismatic, and many called
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: him a fantastic salesman. Look at that house.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I have to stop you. That is not a one
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: point four million dollar home, and Napa unless he financed
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: only the interest, so I had to give that a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: googy guys, that beans Google Because California is so expensive.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I did a screen thing with just this picture. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: think it's called Google lens. It said this house would
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: be worth sixteen million unless you financed only the interest.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I found that interest because I didn't know you could
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: do a mortgage just for interest.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't either. Okay, that doesn't sound like a good idea.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, I would move to Napa again.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I've moved back to California. If I could actually get
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that for a million.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Thank you for sharing that with us, dry,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm that's nice. So Robert was so good that over
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the next five years that he was in California, he
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: was able to convince friends and even some celebrities. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that's right to invest millions of dollars into numerous wine
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and beer ventures. So after moving to the Napa Billy Valley,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: sorry Valley, Robert's first adventure was launching a company called
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: California sh Shiners with Bill Luckett. When I see shiners,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I think of shiners. Sorry, we have them here. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: don't know if everybody has.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I think a shiner bock, which is a beer in Texas.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, so he would buy and sell grapes
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and bottle no name wine, making what they call shiners.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: He would then sell those bottles to customers who added
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: their own labels to them. This was all considered like
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the lower end of the wine business.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stop you right there and just say
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it is considered the lower end because you don't get
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to mix and make it your own flavor. But I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: can't wait till the day that True Crime and wind
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Time gets big enough that we can sell wine with
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: our own label. Oh my gosh, I mean the Wine
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and Crime girls do it, but they actually blended their
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: own where this is already blended. You just get to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: slap a label on it. So like if you're getting married,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you could order five cases and they would put a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: label on for your wedding.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I understand this.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: So it is the lower tiered because you're not putting
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the name brand on it. But it's not bad wine.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. The more justify and once she's the Queen of wine,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: so she has obviously a lot of insight into and says,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I mean out as a compliment so by twenty eleven, though,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Robert was ready to take his next big steps towards
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: making his wine business dreams come true. Then his path
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: crossed with someone at one time considered the quote Prince
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: of the Wine Country Dominic Foppily. If you guys, so
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: our lovely staff member Capin does the slide shows and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I wish you guys knew what she labeled each of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the pictures of, because they're so good with nice spoilers. Well, okay,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: she labeled this one for poly bachelor look and ass.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Well, now I will tell you he was known to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: They're not joking when they said Prince of Wine Country.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: He was considered to be an eligible bachelor.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Wow. Interesting, Okay, Well anyway, now, Dominic was fairly young
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and didn't have his own personal vineyard yet, but he
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: had met some people from Asia who were getting into
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: importing some California wine. Because he didn't have his own facility,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: he couldn't package the wine fast enough to fulfill the orders.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And what must have been seen as a sign is
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: when he met Robert Dahl quote and so I met Robert.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He was very new to this, but he was willing
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: to work really, really hard and he had genuine genuineness
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that he could project that made you want to trust him,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: made you want to like him. End quote. Over the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: next year or so, Dominic and Robert would often go
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: out to dinner and hang out and soon became very
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: close friends. Dominic said, as a friend, he was always there.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I could text him at eleven o'clock at night and
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: he'd get he'd get back to me.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think they had friendship bracelets?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That? If not, everybody should have friendship bracelets. That's a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Karen Read joke. Oh my gosh, everybody there running gets
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: upset if he doesn't have a friendship bracelet. Anyway, Then
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: one day Robert made him a business proposition, one if
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: together they buy their own vineyard. So after going to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: look at some property together, Dominic agreed with him. He
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: staked everything he had on this new partnership, even his
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: own house. Quote. So I say, this is something I'm
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: going to do and I have to go all in,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and I need you to be all in too, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: he Robert said, I got you, and you guys. Dominic
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: had no reason to doubt that Robert was doing tremendous
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: well or that there would be any problems he thought
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: this was gonna be a solid deal. Well, not long
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: after they closed on the vineyard deal. Yes, thank you,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Juju mabe. We'll get there. We'll get there, girl. Robert
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: was already looking for bigger and better opportunities. It seemed
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that sharing ownership of a vineyard wasn't good enough. No, no,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: no no. He wanted to be the boss. And in
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: order to do that, Robert needed new partners. And then
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: he found the investor he was looking for, one who
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: came with a gym bag full of cash.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Now, guys, I wish someone would give me a double
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: bag of money so that I could buy a vineyard
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because I don't have enough. Yeah, I need that, Juju bean.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It is like serious wealth. Yeah, that's what I can afford.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty square foot shack.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: There, I believe it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Now, next we're going to get into a mod tall
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: phills background. But before I do that, just you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with a Dominic, things did not go well. Dominic found
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: out he was conning him, and his family stepped in
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and helped him with the money to buy Robert out.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: He got rid of Robert.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It's spoilers, I know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I just had to tell you that because Okay, Christopher Creek,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: if there's any wine people on here, I just wanted
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to throw that out quick for you guys. Okay, I
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: just need to tell you all that now, Imod tough. Phyllis.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: So if Robert was chaos and Mod was calm, he
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was the type who paid attention, did his homework, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: still someone who believed in people. Okay. His brother called
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: him an angel on Earth, and neighbors adored him. He
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: ran marathons, and he had a labrador named Maddie who
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: went everywhere with him.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Who love that. From everything I've read about him, he
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: seems like the nicest guy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Do you see where he's at the film festival at
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I love that?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: So.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Maud was originally from la but he lived in Los Gatos, California.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: He was a seasoned finance and accounting professional in Silicon Valley.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: He was recognized for his financial expertise in the Bay
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Area as well. He served as a controller at Brook Trout,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: which is an office technology firm. But guys, he grew
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: heart of corporate life and decided he wanted to invest
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: his time and money into his two passions. And let
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: me tell you, his passions were expensive. Film and wine.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, can't get yeah more than that. Now. His
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: first investment venture was back was to back an indie
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: comedy film, Jimmy Vestfood American Heed role Boy. How did
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I do that?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's good? Okay?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, look, that is just hilarious. So it is a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: movie described as using raunchy humor to jab at American
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: prejudices towards the Middle East in the style of Borat
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And guess what, guys, he had a cameo.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. I definitely want to watch that. I mean,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it certainly sounds interesting. But it's no Lam Again, which
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: is a real movie. By the way, m m it
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: is it. Don't watch it so bad?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now, not only did he invest two hundred thousand,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but he was also credited as a wedding guest in
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the film Okay. When director and screenwriter Jonathan Kesselman was
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: asked what kind of actor a mod was, he laughed
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and he said it was a better humanitarian than an actor.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Same thing they would say about me, I hope. But
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: during the movie shoot and Moud and Jonathan spent more
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: time together and they became very friendly. He even invited
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the new film director and his wife to the very
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: fancy home he owned near Napa Valley. He was a
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: kind and welcoming host, and he let them stay in
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: his own bedroom, wow, instead of the guest room. That
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is a great guest. That's a great guest. Now, he
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was a very liked person in the tech world. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: here's what he's what Jonathan said, he was like a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: business person in tech, and I think he was excited
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to not be a corporate guy anymore. He had made
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of money and he was tired of it
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and sort of wanted to explore other things in his life,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: things that he had a passion for. Don't we all
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: want to get there?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now. In twenty eleven, Imad met Robert Dahl, and
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the two quickly shared their aspirations of making it big
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and the wine business. In twenty twelve, Robert pitched him
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the idea for the Patio Wine Company, an off label
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: wine business. Now am I initially invested a few hundred
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars now twenty thirteen, Robert told him he could
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: get a better deal on bolk grapes with cash, so
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: guys like he would be like buying bootleg Bordeaux at
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: a back Alley Farmer's Market.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Now that is when Ima decided to make the big
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: jump with both feet and get into business with Robert Doll.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Now he is the one who showed up with a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: big red Adidas Duffel bag filled with eight hundred thousand
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: dollars in cash and handed it to Robert. Now, I know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: look at that, now, didn't he did? He walk around
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: with a duffel bag full of cash too? Uh?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: A fanny pack?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: There's the bestie.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: He used a fanny pack full of cash and drugs.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now, Robert took several pictures of the Duffel bag
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and money, and he would show it and tell everyone
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: that he met about it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to judge him too hard
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: because I would probably spread it all over my bed
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and roll in it and take all the shots of
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that much. I mean, who would it. Let's be honest,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Don't I think you're better better than us? You're not, okay,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: because that is a ridiculous amount of doll hairs. And
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: that one's for you, Soony Sunshine?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Is that for seeing?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: That is?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: That is?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: They worked her doll hairs into that?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, wasn't there a movie with Demi Moore and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: our buffies not here where there was money all over
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the bed and she rolled in it or something wasn't.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Was that in her? Uh? Was that the strip stripper
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: one that?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Or it was the one where they the guy offered
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: her money for one night and she was married or
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: with some guys. I'm drinking and I've had pay mets.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong, So I'm just going to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: move on.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: We'll just keep going.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now in Maud's investment was over one point two
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: million dollars and it would now help launch doll Vineyards.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Now things seem to be going very well and very fast, Okay,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: so much that it seemed Robert had a bit of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the Midas touch, and he was able to pay back
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: some of in Mad's initial initial investment, and Mod finally
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: got to make his wine business dream come true. And Robert,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: backed with all of in Mod's cash, was on his
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: way to being the big man in Napa. I mean,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it is a nice classic the proposal, thank you bells
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: in decent proposal. Hey, at least I'm not totally crazy.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So in return for his investment, am I got ninety
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: seven point five percent of the company stock and the assets. Now,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the agreement was clean, but the business was not. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say, someone's offering you ninety seven point
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: five percent of the business.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That is wild. That is wild. So you guys, at
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: this point in twenty thirteen, Robert was still a co
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: owner of the Christopher Creek Winery with Dominicppy Olye, and Robert.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Robert and Emid were now running Doll Winery Well.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Then.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Robert then was introduced to construction developer Greg Nddle and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: his wife Francine, who was an artist. Robert persuaded Greg
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: to invest in a new brew pub called Napa Point Brewery.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Like this guy doesn't have enough going on, But here
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: we are. Look at that. There's Robert and Greg and
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: the lovely, very nice brewery. In an interview, Greg Middle
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: said that Robert was very charismatic. He could dazzle a
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: room like no one I had ever seen. I mean, even,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: excuse me, pardon me, I've been on all day, you guys.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: My voice is a little rusty today, I apologize. Even
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Greg's wife Francine, said he exuded confidence. Oh my gosh,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: did he exude confidence, like I'm telling you, like nobody
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I've ever met before in my life, which seems to
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: be what everyone is saying about him. Both saw Robert
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: as an outgoing, charming, hard working guy, and there was
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: no hesitation from the couple to go into business with Robert.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Greg was a good business partner to have, as it
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: was his construction company that built the brewery, and just
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: a few months later, in October twenty thirteen, the Napa
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Point Growing Pub opened its doors. I mean, why wouldn't they?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody's in business with this guy. You don't
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: want to mess out.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It makes sense, right, And a lot of the husbands
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: don't drink wine, and a group pub is exactly where
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: they want to go. So, I mean, it's a good
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: business plan.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It's a good idea, but we'll see how it goes.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: When Greg was asked about Robert what Robert promised him
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and his wife, he said, well that we were going
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to have a reputable business that we would hand off
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to our kids. That sounds like a great thing to do, right.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Greg and Francine became very close friends with Robert and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: his wife. Jew Francine reminisced about a motorcycle ride she
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: had taken with Robert. Okay, one time, I don't know
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: how I ended up on the back of Robert's motorcycle
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: and he pointed out this mansion that's right off the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Silverado trail. And he looked back at me and he said,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: you know what, Greg and I are going to make
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: so much money that he's going to be able to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: buy a house like this for you someday. What a
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: smooth talker. Right, that's the house. Oh my gosh, that's
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: like my dream house. Think about the reading nooks.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, the reading nooks.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I'm an old.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: If we would just cut the very top fire off
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: unless you can actually go up there, and it's a lookout,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: but a lot of times you don't have stairs to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: go up there. As long as you have stairs and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: can go up there, it's perfect.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I would build stairs if I had money for
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the house. I'm building stairs. I have a stair money, Terry, Okay,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: let's go.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Because you would need to have a nook so you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: could just sit and cuddle up and read.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, everywhere all over the house anyway, the out of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Lama's fantasy world here. So for the first three to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: four months, the brewery was booming. They had an amazing
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: brew master in that mansion that Robert showed Frans scene.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: It seemed closer to reality than ever. The couple had
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: noticed that Robert had an expensive lifestyle and that he
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: never seemed quite satisfied with what he had. That's why
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I played the Hamilton song. And your guys have said,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I know a song of you are thinking it. I'm
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: not going to sing it because I don't sing. But
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: they quoted They quoted the couple as saying he liked
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to live. Well, you know, he couldn't live in a
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: three thousand square foot house. No, it had to be
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a five thousand square foot house. He didn't have to
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: have one brand new motorcycle. He had to have two
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: brand new motorcycles. Whoever complains about living in a three
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: thousand square foot home is wild.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I mean a la other than that, three thousand square
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: feet should be plenty in my opinion.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I guess all right, So that's where Greg and Brancine are.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Well. Now, like you said, Robert has at least three
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: different businesses going and at some point, oh, the bubbles
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: are making me burpy. Sorry. His first business partner, Dominic
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Fapelli was starting to have some serious questions. You see,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Dominic was actually the one running the Christopher Creek Winery
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: this whole time, while Robert was running the books. Oh
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I know, Dominic got a phone call from their lender
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: telling him that they were going to start the four
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: closure proceedings on them because they apparently had missed their
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: first payment for the winery. Guys, Dominic put up his hat.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Oh it just breaks my heart. So Dominic called Robert
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, you shouldn't be worried about that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I've got all of that covered, trust me, bro.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Dominic was pissed. Both his reputation and life savings
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: were on the line. The business was doing very well.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: They had been selling a bunch of wine, but there
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: somehow wasn't enough money to keep paying the bills. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: he was like wondering where was the money going? Guys.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It's a question that many others would soon be asking
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: as well. Dominic knew that he had to get rid
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of Robert and had to go to his family members
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: for help. Yes, I spoiled earlier, he said. So my
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: family and my partners, my brother and my best friends
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: came around and said we will do whatever we need
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to do, and let's get this guy out. Dominic did
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: end up getting control of the vineyard, but guys, he
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: had to pay Robert to step away from it. Quote.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: You know, I introduced him as my partner and my friend,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: so I brought him into that circle of trust that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: we have here. Everybody welcomed him with open arms because
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I vouched for him. I had never been burned before.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I was so naive. So guys, just so you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: most of Napa Valley born raised there. They they give
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it to the kids. I mean, you know, everybody. So
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: for somebody to vouch for you from a family like that,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Now, Dominic wasn't the only part
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: person swindled by Robert since he had arrived in Napa.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: There was also a wine maker by the name of
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Stephen or Steve Birch who had worked with Robert, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it introduced him to a few celebrities who were interested
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in getting into the wine business. Now, Robert soon got
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: into deals with comic and TV personality Adam Carolla Bodling.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I heard bottling bottling Sangria called mangria.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Of course, yeah by TV uh huh, as well as
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the rapper E forty, who guys I had never heard of. No,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that is. I'm like, maybe if
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I go them might probably be like, oh that. I
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: feel like I do know him, but I don't know
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: why anyway.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Robert's packaged some wines for his label Earl Stevens Wines.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Both products did very well, but neither of these celebrities
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: were ever paid for their fair share. Even Stephen Steve
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Burch left with Robert still owing him over ten thousand
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: dollars now. Stephen Steve said in an interview, no one
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that ever put money into something Robert was doing was
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: ever going to get anything back now. Even Robert's electrician
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Miles Davis, said that Robert owed him fifteen thousand dollars.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Davis still ended up being friends with Robert. Despite that,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm fine with that. I mean, it wasn't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: about the money. It was about you know, there were
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: concerns that he was in trouble, so I didn't feel
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like my little fifteen thousand dollars was anything to worry
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: about out.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know what that means.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I can't my brain can comprehend it being like, what
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: do you mean fifteen thousand dollars? Doesn't it matter to well?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Like like, I'm all for help with my friends, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: damn does Miles Davis want to be friends with me?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I won't screw you over, Miles, just give me some
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: starting casual had great? Oh my okay, Well that that
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: takes us up to date with these celebrities. Very interesting.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: But let's get back to Greg and Francine Nittles, who
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about the Pardoner with Robert to
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: start the brewing company. So just a few short months
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: after the group up doors opened, the excitement of this
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: new adventure quickly faded away, because, of course, we wouldn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: be here if dinnert right. Our favorite wine writer Lou
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Purdue has entered the chats. I mean, how fun is that? Named?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: To set you guys, it's fun to try everybody together,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Lou Purdue? LOLU Purdue's so fun. It's just a purples
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: off the top anyway. Now, Lou was beginning to suspect
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: that Robert wasn't quite who he wanted everyone to believe
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: him to be. Remember, Lose a writer, Lou had a
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: good friend who really liked Kraft Beer and went to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: check out Robert's brewery. Turns out that the beer wasn't
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: even made there. Nope, Robert was just buying kegs from
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: someone else and passing an office their own. Apparently Lou
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Produe's friend, but good guy, so dramatic. Oh there's so
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: much about Lou Purdue anyway, excuse me. Apparently Lou Produe's
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: friend confronted Robert about ed Gate, and Robert went ballistic,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: quote like he had been found out. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I know what's happening here. So wistful in the Vatican,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Rank Kevin, we know why. Maybe I'll bring it up later.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: So by March twenty fourteen, this is what six months
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: after the brew pub opened, the landlord filed a lawsuit
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: against the grew Phub over Robert not paying rent, which
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: was scheduled to increase from fifteen thousand dollars to sixty
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month, which I don't even understand. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: don't understand how that even happens.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: But because they did. You're just starting your business off.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: We'll do that. We'll put most of the money at
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the end of your lease. You can just pay a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: little bit if you're getting started. I mean they still
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: do gentlemen handshakes and Napa.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: That rent is whatty but okay. So Francine and Greg
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: had no idea what Robert was up to at the brewery,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and they were very shocked when Robert came to them
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: one day and announced that he was shutting down the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: whole thing. That's right, because it wasn't making enough money.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: So the Knapa Point Brewing Club closed its doors in
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: May May twenty fourteen. The Nettles not only lost two
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars of their own money, they
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: also had encouraged friends to invest as well. They felt
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: personally betrayed by their supposed friend, Robert Dall, and the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: couple pressed criminal charges against Robert. Unfortunately, though, the Nettles
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: would not be the last financial victim of Robert's I
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: don't know if anybody's giving a tallly of or how
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: much money we've even talked about, but it's insane already.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's a lot like two million dollars at least now.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: At this point in twenty fourteen, Robert had stopped paying
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: back the money that he borrowed from the mom, so
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Imma had hired former FBI agent turned personal investigator Don King.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Now the dog, the shirt, the necklace, Don is the queen,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and I love it. Okay, just gonna say I love her.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Now she and the truth about Robert's past began to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: come to light. She was able to hit the ground
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: running because this wasn't the first time she had been
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: hired to look into Doll's background. She discovered that Robert
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: had a pile of leans against him, civil judgments from
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: multiple companies adding up to almost two hundred thousand. Basically, guys,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Robert wasn't paying any bills and was charging everything on
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: credit cards, and there was a long list of lawsuits
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: against him. Now, I'm going to say that when you're
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: starting a business, a lot of times people will charge
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: up their credit cards. But we got to remember this
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: guy was getting investment money. He got an Adidas bag
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: of eight hundred thousand dollars, right, great, Yeah, Now a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: lot of what Don King had previously discovered about Robert
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: had happened back in Minnesota. Now, remember the buyers who
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: bought his Minnesota business. Durberry, why are you laughing at
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: my Minnesota.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, why not?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I've never been to Minnesota.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're funny.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: But they had actually sued Robert for selling them a
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: company that they claimed manufactured a useless product. Now the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: case was settled behind closed doors. Okay. Robert and his
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: wife filed for personal bankruptcy in nineteen ninety seven.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this guy's not good with money.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: He's not good with it at all at all. Now,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: if all of the financial problems weren't enough, she also
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: found out that Robert had a criminal past as well.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Robert had been convicted of theft by swindle
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: not once, but twice back in the late eighties early nineties.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: He even spent time in prison for them. He was
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a convicted felon.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Oh so, I don't think I've ever heard of a
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: theft by swindle church before. It sounds very old timey,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and I am obsessed with it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: All I thought of was it made me think of
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the tender Swindler, because I had never heard of it either.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I think this week I definitely added the words swindle
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: into as many conversations I can as swooning as well.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: So it's a Pomeranian and they are so cute at
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: a hyper we have a chia palm, which is half
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Chihuahuah half Pomeranian. They're proxious, now are you ready for this?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: The cherry on top of this bad mangeria was that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the entity of mod had invested one point two million
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: dollars in was actually defunct and Robert was using on
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a different winery. I mean, Robert was using multiple LLCs
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to move money around and to hide his cons and
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Mad was very angry and wanted his money back. But Robert,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: as we can all guess, was being anything but cooperative.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Go bigger shot speak atch you over here now. Unfortunately
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: for Robert, don King wasn't the only one looking into
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Robert in his swindling. See guys, it's a fun word.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: The wine writer legend himself, Will Purdue decided to spell
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: all the tea on his blog for everyone to see.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Like the messy queen he was. So, Robert was not
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: heavy about having his dirty laundry aired all over the
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: internet in Napa Valley, and so he did what no
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: one should do, and he took his frustrations to the
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: comments section where he would have rant paragraph by paragraph
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: by paragraph, and yes much of it was in all calfs,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: so you know, exactly how unhinged Robert was about all
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: of this. Lou Purdue even printed out all of Robert's rantings,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: which he measured to be about twenty six feet. I mean,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: look at that.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: A lot, guys, that's a lot a lot.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Robert's world was crashing down all around him, and it
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: was crashing as fast and hard lovely. I don't think
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: this is going to go well.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: And that is not what she said. So with everything
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: coming about out about Robert, what that is so a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: cvous receipt.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm sorry, but.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Mad was furious was seeing all of this. He may
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: had seemed like a passive guy, but guys, he was
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: not going to let someone like Robert take advantage of him. Okay,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: he'd put all of his life savings into this venture.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Now a Mod's attorney, David Wiseblood, I mean, guys, everyone
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: has really cool names in this. Did you produ David Wiseblood?
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I mean down King, King Miles say this, I mean
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: literally a whole cast. It's amazing.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Now in Mad had this to say to David, and
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Mod came to me saying, I have this problem. So
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I looked at it and said, yeah, you have a problem.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: So we devised the strategy. So the strategy was basically
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to file a lawsuit in NAPA against Robert to get
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: control of the collateral and to prevent stuff from disappearing. Okay,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I mean that's of wine and stuff. I mean that's
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of money and the vines. And after
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen court hearings in four months, which guys, that's a
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: long time to be in court. Okay, that's a lot.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I mean once a week.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: In four months now, because I doubt they were like bev.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: They weren't doing half days and all these breaks.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: These are just hearings. They even went to trial. No,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: oh my.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Gosh, a judge granted the injunction prohibiting Robert from selling
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: any inventory, which guys, in theory, should have shut down
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: his wine making and selling businesses. But to no one's surprise,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Robert didn't take that too seriously and he was secretly
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: taking and hiding equipment and trying to sell it all off. Guys,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: those barrels hold a lot of wine. That I mean,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: just the barrels themselves are thousands of dollars. Okay. Now,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Robert hired attorney Jasmine duel In Kosha Barakam and they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: filed a counter lawsuit against a mod because that's what
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: attorneys do, right.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: And now, you guys, we all know that lawyers are
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: going to lawyer and do their best to curate a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: better image for their client. But what they had to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: say about having an interview after all of this made
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: me roll my eyes so hard. I was like, how
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: am I going to buy these out of the back
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: of my skull? Because this is ridiculous. Okay, this is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: after everything we're going to talk to night happened is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: when they gave this interview. Okay. So they claim that
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more than what the headline said about
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: their former client. They said Robert was a clever businessman
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: but was in no way a crook. Okay, sure, jan
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: They claimed that they believe he had every intention to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: pay back the entire loan to Ahmad. Okay, Amber heard,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and then he was a stand up guy. That he
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: was just your classic all American risk taking entrepreneur who
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: puts it all on the line and at the last
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: minute it comes out a hero. Are we been talking
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: about the same person here, because that is not what happens. Okay,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: it's not what happens at all. But okay, while they
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: admit that Robert had his fair share of failed business
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: ventures before this business with the mod was growing, and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: wasn't some elaborate Ponzi scheme or a house of cards? Okay,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: all right. My personal favorite quote was from his attorney
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Krusha Berikum comes after he is asked, but don't you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: think that proves that he's a thief? And somehow, with
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: what I'm assuming had to be with a straight face,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: he said, quote, not at all. A thief takes money
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: and runs with it, doesn't go to court. What.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that is something I almost could hear. Brennan. Okay, okay,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: that's whoto. Could you unsquint your eyes? Just unsquirt your.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Eyes, sir? I mean I know they got to do
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: their job. I get it, But like, sir, come on,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: that's egregious to say. See Kelly p agrees, is he?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I love that? So you guys. He also goes on
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: to say, quote, he was a risk taker, and when
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: you take risks sometimes you end up harming other people
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: as well. But our system is set up for that.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: What okay, sir? Okay, okay.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Now the interesting thing I want you to look at
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: on his card attorney at Law, Beverly Hills, California, Employment law,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: group employment and labor and personal injury. Nowhere does he
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: do corporate law for partnerships. Anybody noticed that he's an
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: attorney who gets paid probably on a contingency fee, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: only gets paid if they win. So I noticed that,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, no, no, no, no no. Now,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: according to Robert's lawyers, in the wine business, sometimes you win,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes you lose. Guess what, attorneys, that's any business. I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: don't know why you think it's just the wine business, okay,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: so oh. And they also insisted that a Mod was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: actually the real villain in this bad business deal, that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: he was so angry that he was determined to destroy
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Robert's business. They were asked if he thought this was
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: a scam for a Mod, and Kusha said absolutely. Why
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: would one come up with that much cash and why
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: it's his life savings? And he thought you were going
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: to get the grapes cheaper. Guys, they do have a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: market in Napa where you can go buy grapes that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the winery.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Doesn't use, you know, doesn't know about it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Now. They also implied that it was a Mod's fault,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: and guys, I have a problem with victim blaming.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: You just don't okay, this was all said dirt after
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: How were we going to finish this story as this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: guy's second Yeah?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Now, like I said, they implied it was a mod's fault.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Robert couldn't pay him or anyone else back thanks to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the court's injunctions on him. So it's a mod's fault
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: for finding out that the wineries defunct. Guys, remember how
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the winery den How dare you now? Robert's other attorney,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Jasmine Duel, said his barrels of wine were taken, his
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: cars were taken, his brewing systems were taken. He wasn't
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: an impossible place. Just hold on, let me get out
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: my little tiny badley in here, girl, okay, girl Now.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: In early of March twenty fifteen, as surprised to almost everyone,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: it seemed there was a breakthrough in the lawsuit. The
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: lawyers had come to a deal and it looked like
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Emmaud would get at least some of his money back. Guys,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: just you know, in a situation like this, attorneys say,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: if both parties are unhappy, it's a good deal.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, So they were. It's not like they were happy,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: but they made a deal. But instead of going to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: any of the law offices, Robert told Ahmad to meet
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: him at Dolls Vineyard. Robert insisted on settling in person. Now,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Ammond's lawyer, David Wiselood begged him not to go, but
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Ahmad said he was going anyway. Guys, look how beautiful
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: that is.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. All right, I guess I'll get to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: this part. So on March sixteenth, twenty fifteen, they met
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a mod brought Maddie. Robert didn't hug, he didn't smile,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: and there was tension. Legal teams were on speaker phone
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: and Maud's attorney, David Wiseblood said there was a definite
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: agreement on what was going to be paid to a mod.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: It was just so baily calm. But of course Robert,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: being a super stable individual, decided to know about and said, quote,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit what the lawyers negotiated. This
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: is my offer end quote, which was basically fifty percent
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: less than what was agreed to. But a real stand
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: up guy, as his lawyers like to refer to him, right,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stand up guy. So a Moud responded,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: it wasn't the lawyers who came up with these numbers,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: it was us, and I'm not here to renegotiate. Robert
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: did not like that things were heated, and the attorney
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: suggested a short break in the negotiations to calm down. Now.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Wise Blood expected to hear from a MOD in five
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: minutes or so, and he waited for his client to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: call him back, but that never happened. So after numerous
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: unanswered phone calls, mister Wiseblood got an email saying there
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: was a shooting at the vineyard. He emailed Robert's attorneys
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: to find out if it was true, and they didn't
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: know what had happened either, but thought to themselves that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: maybe a MOD had lost it. It turns out that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: once the lawyers were off the phone, Robert presented a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: MOD with a new settlement agreement, which apparently read more
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: like a manifesto. It accused the MOD of trying to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: ruin his life, demanding a Mod admit the whole lawsuit
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: was personal, a vendetta, and that Robert owed and Mod nothing.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Robert demanded that he sign it right then and there,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: and a Mod, of course, would never sign it, so
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Robert grabbed a gun and shot him. The two men
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: came tumbling out of the bar. The MOD ran through
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: the vines, dodging bullets. Robert was hunting him through the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: vineyard with a silencer equipped twenty two caliber semi automatic pistol.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: A MOD was able to call nine one one during
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the chase, saying, he shot me. He's coming after me
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: in his truck. Robert must have known he wasn't going
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: to be able to catch him on foot. Remember how
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: a MOD ran marathons, and we've seen Robert, he really
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't touching you on foot, Okay, So he turned around
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: and hoalked into his black suv with his gun in
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: his hands. He was most likely hoping to cut the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: off if he ran out onto the road, so a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: MOD stayed on the phone with the nine one one dispatcher,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: who already sent deputies to the scene. AMD made it
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: to the road just in time to see the cruisers
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: approaching the vineyard and they saw him. He thought he
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: was safe, but unfortunately Robert had caught up. He got
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: out of his car, stood over a very wounded Amad,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: and shot him point blank in the head. Robert, then, guy,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: now this guy. Robert then got back into his SUV
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: and took off from the scene as police chased him
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: for about ten miles away from the crime scene. The
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: deputies had seen him kill a mood. Much of Napa
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Valley knew about his bad business dealings, that there were
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: lawsuits and depth collectors everywhere, and I imagine at this
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: point Robert knew it was game over. There was no
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: way he was going to be able to swindle and
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: weasel his way out of this one. And as the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: police were closing in on him, he shot himself in
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: the head and died so close, Coward so close and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Maud was so close.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Oh now I know, and I agree with Lady and Gray.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Why a silencer? Very legal, first of all, But why
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: a silencer? Now? No one knows the extent of what
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Robert had planned for that day, but there was some
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: evidence that Robert may have been ready to kill more
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: people than ess a mod Okay and Robert's car, they
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: found what police called a murder kit, which had gloves,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: zip ties, bleach burner phones, a hazmat suit, and a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: list of other people Robert wanted to kill. Geez jeez.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: He felt that people on the list had set out
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to ruin him his reputation. This guy cannot take any accountability. Okay,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: let's just say he cannot take any accountability. Okay. Now,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: they also found over seven hundred rounds of ammunition. Okay,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of flipping.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what you think it is.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little bag of Mary Jane. Now, Robert
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: was a convicted felon, guys, which means he should not
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: be in possession of a gun. He is not allowed
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: to own a gun or be in possession. Now, during
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the autopsy, it was discovered that Emmaud was shot five times,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: including a final kill shot to the head. Now, just
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: a few days after the murder suicide, dal Vineyard's tasting
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: room was padlocked and an eviction notice was taped to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the door due to a long list of alleged lease violations. Guys,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: those poor vines, they were so traumatized. Now, Robert's last
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: failures and the devastating loved legacy he left behind. Now,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: in April of twenty fifteen, another NAPA based grower sued
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Robert's state and the defunct winery to recover over thirty
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars owed to them for grapes that Robert
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: had purchased. Now, guys, what is interesting about this lawsuit
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: is that neither Robert or any of his wineries had
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: a processing license, guys, which means he couldn't use the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: grapes to make anything.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: So trust me, bro, handshake deal. You just sell grapes
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: to somebody because you like them. They've got charisma. He's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: not even legally allowed to do anything with the grapes.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Oh this guy.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Now, the courts in May appointed a managing receiver to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: manage the affairs and assets for the litigation against Robert Dahl,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: the winery and the brewery. So in May, Immad Taphyllis
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: family found a wrongful death suit and Robert's wife and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: kids they got out of Naple, which was probably smart
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: for them, and moved back to Minnesota.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Did you see who his wife married? I don't think
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: we included this in the story. So his wife, by
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: the way, married Miles Davis from earlier in the store.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Earlier his electrician that he owed fifteen grand too, I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: guess saw him and then missus got married. So some
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: tea for you guys, now, I.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Mean he came over to collect some money was Oh,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: they had some tea, they hit it off.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. So you guys, you know.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: More worried about Ahmad shooting you happened? Really? Come on now,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: look at that sable though.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Look oh yeah, you know if if he hadn't been
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: able to run away and call nine one one, would
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Mod have been Robert's only target? You know, many people
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: involved with Robert feared that they would could have easily
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: ended up on Robert's kill Liss that day, you know,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: the p I don King, lawyer David Westblood, former business
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: partner Greg Middle and yes, Lama's boyfriend, writer Do Purdue
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: all wondered if things had gone differently, if they would
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: have been next.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: And married Perdue, you would be Lama Purdue.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, hope if you would feel about that, But
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: maybe I don't see what we can work out. I mean,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: we produce. I do like older gentleman, but he's a
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: little older. But you know what, we'll keep our options
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: open here, am I? Anyway? So Dominic Foppoley remember him,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: was worried that Robert could have come after him as well.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Dominic had actually tried to warn a Mod and give
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: him a heads up that he was having all sorts
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: of problems with Robert. When asked how he heard about
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: the murders suicide, Dominic said, somebody pulled up their phone
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: and they showed me the article of what happened. I
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: was just in shock and immediately and honestly, I started crying.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: And it was a mix of guilt because I guess
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't do enough to warn a moud about him.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: That's sad. But before you go feeld too sad. Hold on.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: So Dominic Foprioli, whatever his name is, the Prince of Napa,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: went on to become the mayor of Windsor, California, from
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: December twenty eighteen May of twenty twenty one. He was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: running for another office, but all of that was put
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: on hold when he I think it brings this way,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: was charged with multiple sexual assaults against nine different women.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Look at him with a stupid hat, his stupid bow tie,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: a stupid sash. Look at that guy, I mean anyway,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: So there is that because the story wasn't messy enough already.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: In his family was a big deal in the valley.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a stupid face anyway. So director Jonathan Kesselman,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: who directed the movie that Mod had you know, financed,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: spoke about Maud quote, he was a really sweet, kind
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: and generous guy, and I just felt I needed to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: say that. So it's on the record. You know, there's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: some legacy of a mod where you know he was remembered.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: He was a good person.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm reading these signs. I don't get those
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: signs right, make sour grapes. In other words, yeah, mayor
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: your own body. You're not a good listener.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: No, I can't, Okay, Yeah, anyway, Ahmad was the best
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: of us.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Look at him. He was like such a nice guy
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: he does.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Look at him.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: He deserved a patio with a view, a bottle he
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: helped create, and his dog Maggie asleep at his feet. Instead,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: he got a monster in a wine cave who ended
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: his life too early. We also need to remember Robert's children,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: who are sadly also victims in this horrid tale. I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: couldn't imagine living in the shadow that Robert put over everyone.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Oh that guy. So I would like to end the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: story reading a short quote that Robert had told the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: landlord when he was applying to lease the property in
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. Not only did Robert tell him that he
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: was earning millions, he also said quote, I have made
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: mistakes in my life, and I always take responsibility for
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: them and make them right. I pride myself on doing
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: what I say I do and believe that a man
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: is only as good as his word. End quote.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Liar, liar, pants on fire.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: And that is the end of that story. H Terry,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: what closing thoughts do you have about I'm.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Going to just say, if you made it this far
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: in your glass is an empty You've got better restraint
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: than I did. Because writing this, this case got to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: me because I love Napa. When we moved to California,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: our goal was to retire in Yonville there in the valley,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: and the people are so kind, down to earth, they
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: are lovely people. And to think that somebody like him
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: came in and did this. You know, it's not just
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: about the wine or the fraud. It's about the trust
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: that people gave him. They trusted him, and let's think
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: about it. Immaud was the real deal. He was smart,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: he was kind, he was thoughtful, and guys, he ended
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: up the center of a nightmare because someone else refused
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: to take responsibility and guys, like I said, this took
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: place in my happy place, and when I go to NAPA,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: you can just breathe there. Everywhere you turn, it's beautiful.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: You don't turn one direction and say, oh, that's ugly.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Everywhere is beautiful. So this is just a reminder that
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: sometimes evil shows up even with a vineyard view, and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: still they're horrible. So I just want people to take
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: away from this. Don't be afraid to ask the hard questions,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: even if it feels awkwards. Look past their charm, google
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: their name, trust your gut because you should have done
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'm not blaming anybody, but you've
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: got to check out. And I want to say to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: a Mod's family, I see your heartbreak. And I hope
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: telling this story helps more people who he was. He
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: was truly an angel on earth and he was just
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: trying to make something good. And I hope that his
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: pred Maddie is taken care of.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, in just a second.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: That would be the one and only a both feet.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Who was That's okay, they've been so sweet all day.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I've been on all day and it's fine. So my
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: closing thought is, you know, I find that most people
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: myself included. Myself included. I think they're impervious because they're
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: too smart or they can read people, and that they
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: would never fall for a scammer, a con man, or
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: a swindler. And I'm sure everyone in this story thought
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: that too, But people like this have been around for millennia,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: and honestly, I think with the Internet it's got so
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: much worse. Actually, you think it'd be easier to find
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: stuff out about people, but I don't think so. I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: think it's very difficult. And you know, I'm not saying
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: to stop trusting people and think they're out to get
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, stay vigilant, do some research. The
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: deal sounds too good to be true. It probably is unless,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: but not least, actions speak louder than words. Anyone. Anyone
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: can spew some bulshit, okay, but do they deliver. That's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: what you need to keep keep an eye out on.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Look at their actions, not their words, because that's how
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: common work, you know. And maybe tonight, after we're all
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: done here in memory of a mod maybe you can
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: go and watch Jimmy Bestwood American Hero, because just because
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: he's gone doesn't mean that his dreams can't still come true.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: So that's my farewell for this evening. Wow, I'm probably
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: gonna try to find it to watch it.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I want to give a little tidbit. If you've never
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: been to Napa, if you go to the Francis Ford
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Coppola Winery, it used to be the Inglebrook Winery and
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: then Copla bought it. They actually have stuff from the Godfather.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: They have the car from the Godfather. They actually have
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: memorabilia in the winery that you can walk through.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: You don't drink. Napa is a beautiful place. Okay, now, guys,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: next week, once again, this is former producer Lama's case.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: How did a Quiet Team become a face eating killer? Really?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: The Austin Haruf Harriff I think it's Hara Pariff case.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: It's next Thursday on June twelfth, at eight pm Eastern,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: seven pm Central. Yes, and I'm not going to say
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Well, if anyone might think they know what this case
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: is about or think they know the story, you may not.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: You may be very surprised and what you've heard and
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: what the actual truth of the situation is. So I'm
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: very excited to talk about it.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: And I want to give a shout out to our team.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: The pictures on our thumbnails. I mean, how many hours
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: do they sit there and look at videos to find
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: the perfect eye rolls, mouth open?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I mean just going to I imagine. I know I've
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: been in Amy's cap cut. It's just videos after videos
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: of my face all over and I'm like, I think
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: you're kind of obsessed with me.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Kelly P. We are planning to go to NAPA for
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: our anniversary in August. Since we didn't get to celebrate
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: our twenty year, I think we're going to do our
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: twenty one year there. I will be sure to go
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: live and share pictures. I mean when I say I
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: love Napa. One of my dogs, Miss Maddie, who was
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: a teacup Yorky, her ashes are spread at Saint Super
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Vineyard on the seven yard blunt grapes. They let us
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: do that. She even had her own bandanna for them,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: and so the people there are amazing. Okay, now, guys,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: if you have a suggestion for a case, you can
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: email us or I don't know if the mods have
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: the link yet. Yes you do, do they okay because
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  Speaker 2: we're getting ready to finish shok Karen Reid in like
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. So I do that during the day, and
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  Speaker 2: then I do a couch court with Lama after dark,
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  Speaker 2: oh boy, oh boy, is that but even today with
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  Speaker 2: about Karen Reid. I recommend if you guys haven't watched yet,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I've been doing.
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  Speaker 2: I love that well. I want to thank you Terry
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  Speaker 2: for bringing me on as co host. I want to
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  Speaker 2: I knew, I hope you accep me and I look
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  Speaker 2: very much forward to all the stories we're going to cover.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so proud and excited to be a part
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  Speaker 2: of this journey from here on out and until then,
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  Speaker 2: as I always say, go forth and be amazing. So
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  Speaker 2: thank you guys very much. And Chat wait hold on,
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