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- 0:16Hello
- 0:17everyone and welcome to the concession stand here on the KB radio network.
- 0:22I am your host Kevin Reed and this is the spoiler.
- 0:27I repeat spoiler.
- 0:30Review of
- 0:32Superman, the brand new film from writer-director James Gunn,
- 0:37starring David Cornswet as the man of steel himself,
- 0:41and this is the first film in the DC universe.
- 0:47I absolutely adore this film.
- 0:50I've seen it twice.
- 0:53I had to watch it again in order to kind of grasp,
- 0:58you know,
- 0:58everything that I saw in the first.
- 1:00viewing and i gave my initial review if you want to hear that review the non-spoiler review uh you can find it on my channel but i couldn't get into a lot of things on that review because it would be spoilery you know i don't want to spoil it for anybody uh
- 1:18who haven't seen it so i decided to split them up in two and do a non-spoiler and a spoiler this is more of a talk then it is a rebuke.
- 1:30because I reviewed it already.
- 1:32I gave it a B+.
- 1:33It is an excellent film to kick off this new cinematic universe over at DC.
- 1:41And so
- 1:42I wanted to touch in on some points here concerning the film that I enjoyed and some things that I didn't.
- 1:50Especially since
- 1:52I've viewed it a couple of times now,
- 1:55I have a greater sense of the story and
- 1:59There's a couple of things that I even missed on the first viewing,
- 2:03shockingly enough.
- 2:04Nothing big or major,
- 2:06but just little nuggets that kind of explained some things clearer for me.
- 2:14You know,
- 2:15it wasn't earth-shattling or caused me not to like the movie on the first viewing,
- 2:21but it just added to my enjoyment of the film.
- 2:25this film kicks off we don't get a
- 2:29origin story in this movie this is superman already superman you know clark has he's been through smallville we we didn't have to see krypton blow up we didn't have to see
- 2:45uh paul and uh mark kent raise him up and all this other good stuff and you know him discovering his powers we've been through that we saw it in
- 2:56the christopher reeves version we saw it in the man of steel we've seen it in comics we've seen it on television hey we saw a whole television show dedicated to the upbringing of clark kent so we didn't need to dive back into the origin story if you don't know the origin story of superman by this point god
- 3:18bless you and now the one thing i will say i say all that as somebody who
- 3:26is in his mid-40s have watched multiple versions of superman i will go as far to say every version um on television comics and movies but in regards to little kids or children who
- 3:43are going to see this movie with their parents or friends or whoever and this is their first superman this is the first time they were experiencing superman on the big screen
- 3:55in some cases at all in any media and they probably don't know the origin they probably don't know the full story of superman i think in regards to those people they're not just kids because there are grown-ups who probably don't know to be honest with you but in regards to those people they're
- 4:17probably be a little thrown off by it and that's one knock that i didn't give my initial review.
- 4:25you know just in regards to those individuals who are experiencing the character of superman for the first time and just want to see a superhero film uh whether they're young or old there'll be a little little concerning there they're like okay so how
- 4:43did he become superman uh did he get hit by a meteor or something like that you know they don't know that he's an alien and all this here now all of this is explained throughout the film
- 4:55you know if you sit there and pay attention but i'm just saying as far as somebody for the first time sitting down in the theater
- 5:02and don't know the story of Superman and hope to be introduced to this character from the beginning,
- 5:13you're not going to get that in this type of film.
- 5:15And for me,
- 5:17I appreciated it.
- 5:18For me personally,
- 5:19I love that decision.
- 5:22You know,
- 5:23it's something like Batman.
- 5:24If they make a Batman movie,
- 5:26which is coming,
- 5:29not anytime soon,
- 5:30it'll probably be a...
- 5:31a couple of years from now as far as in this cinematic universe uh james gunn has said that there won't be an origin story we're not gonna see uh martha and uh thomas wayne get shot in the alley in that film thank god because we've seen it in every single iteration of that character you know but
- 5:54i understand for younger viewers who don't know who's not in the comics uh
- 6:01Probably didn't watch the animated series and so on and so forth don't know but hopefully with good Storytelling in the film you can find out and that's one thing about this movie that it does do well It does tell that story that
- 6:20Kal-el which is his given name his biological name comes from Krypton.
- 6:25He's sent here by his parents
- 6:29to avoid the destruction of Krypton and whatnot.
- 6:32He lands in Smallville,
- 6:34Kansas,
- 6:35raised up by the Kants,
- 6:37and voila,
- 6:39there we go.
- 6:40So it is told to us and shown to us in a degree throughout the film.
- 6:47We just have to commit to it.
- 6:48But as a comic book lover,
- 6:51as a fan of these comic book films and properties,
- 6:56I was all in on it.
- 6:58I'm glad we picked it.
- 6:59up at the point at the time that we did pick up in this film this film starts with the explanation that metahumans have been on earth for three centuries at this point you know 300 years on earth so we've had superhuman beings in
- 7:20this version of earth already you know so it didn't make sense to have an origin story when we
- 7:26We have a world established that has metahumans for the past 300 years.
- 7:33And the first image we see is Superman crash landing on the snow.
- 7:41You know,
- 7:41that we saw in the trailer and everything.
- 7:44He's beaten up,
- 7:45he's broken up,
- 7:46and the text on screen explains that this is Superman's first defeat.
- 7:51This is the first time he's lost.
- 7:53And did he lose?
- 7:54I mean...
- 7:55broken ribs and punctured lungs and all this other stuff i mean he the hammer of uh bararia it tore his behind up who we later find out once again it's spoilers we later find out that is ultraman in that suit and
- 8:14he beat him half to death literally and once again i think this was a genius way to start this film because if we find our hero
- 8:24at his lowest this is where we start at his lowest it we get to go on this journey with him you know as he accomplishes go as he vanished the enemy and come out on top we can go on that journey through this story and that
- 8:43excited me for some strange reason i was intrigued by that when that was the opening scene because when you see it in the trailer
- 8:52Of course,
- 8:52and this is in all movies,
- 8:54in all movie trailers,
- 8:56when you see the trailer,
- 8:58you're not seeing the movie in context.
- 9:00It's not like it's a shorter version of the film as far as chronological order.
- 9:08You know,
- 9:08everything is all out of whack.
- 9:10And so
- 9:11I didn't think that that was going to be the opening shot.
- 9:15And to be honest with you,
- 9:16when you really go back and watch the trailers,
- 9:19all of them,
- 9:20I think it's what,
- 9:21three trailers that they released?
- 9:23A couple of clips,
- 9:24but the three trailers that they released were basically the same thing.
- 9:29They were the same scene from the movie,
- 9:32and all of those trailers were the beginning part of the film.
- 9:37You know,
- 9:38I think the last trailer showed a little bit of the third act,
- 9:42but it didn't show everything.
- 9:43But the majority of those trailers were the first act of the movie.
- 9:50and so once again this was the opening scene and i'm like okay so we can only go up from here but no pun intended we're only going up up from here so
- 10:04crypto another factor in this film i mentioned in my initial review i was a little nervous about going into this movie i thought we were going to be oversaturated with this dog and i love dogs you know my daughter has a dog which basically
- 10:21means i'm an owner of a dog by default because it's in my house but i love dogs you know i do and this is coming from somebody when i was younger i was allergic to dogs.
- 10:34I couldn't be around dogs and it's weird how that just went away
- 10:41It went away because this isn't our first dog.
- 10:44We've had a couple of dogs before our current
- 10:49Little crypto that runs around and destroys the house,
- 10:52but as neither here nor there
- 10:54I thought we was gonna be over saying I thought this was gonna be a crypto movie the way they were promoting him
- 10:59You know every promotional material was crypto
- 11:04oh man i don't want to see that not that i don't care for the dog i i want to see a superman movie not a crypto movie but the film gave you just the right amount of crypto and
- 11:21you actually fall in love with the dog at least i did i fell in love with crypto no matter how unruly he was he was still a beautiful dog love that dog
- 11:34It added to every scene that he was a part of.
- 11:39We get to the Fortress of Solitude.
- 11:41We meet the Superman robots,
- 11:44which is from the,
- 11:46I think,
- 11:47All-Star Superman comics.
- 11:50Or was it that?
- 11:51I think it was the animated movie.
- 11:52I think it was one,
- 11:53but they did incorporate it in the comics after.
- 11:57But I think they were introduced in the animated movie first.
- 12:00Either way,
- 12:00don't care.
- 12:01I love them in this film.
- 12:03I love that addition to heal Superman with the rays from the sun magnifying it so he can get soaked in the sun's power to heal him.
- 12:16Superman,
- 12:16he gets off the table.
- 12:18He goes back,
- 12:19immediately goes back into the fight against the
- 12:23Hammer of Berraria.
- 12:25I'm pretty sure I'm saying the name wrong,
- 12:27but anyways,
- 12:28goes back into the fight and loses again.
- 12:32He loses again.
- 12:33and i thought that was cool i'm like man this is cool to see superman struggle because you always look at superman as the the you know the automatic problem solver you know as long as you don't have kryptonite he
- 12:50can destroy anything i mean there's nothing that can stop him uh kryptonite or magic it's nothing that can stop him but they found the way to work it into the comic lore
- 13:02that he can be beat he can be hurt and still be the superman that we know and love so we get introduced to lex luthor played by nicholas hope and i'm just gonna say it right now after watching it a second time nicholas hope is the best lex
- 13:22luthor ever i loved his portrayal of that villain he embodied
- 13:32everything that
- 13:34I remember from the comics.
- 13:36I think that's the most important thing for me.
- 13:41Going back to
- 13:421978's
- 13:43Superman, where we got the late,
- 13:46great Gene Hackman playing that character.
- 13:50I love Gene Hackman.
- 13:51I love his
- 13:52Lex Luthor,
- 13:53but that wasn't the Lex Luthor in the comics.
- 13:56Now,
- 13:56a lot of people's first exposure to that character was through the movies.
- 14:02Namely me,
- 14:03you know,
- 14:03before I was old enough to get into comics and actually read,
- 14:07you know,
- 14:08and explore what that character was truly all about throughout the comic lore.
- 14:15He is not this comedic criminal that,
- 14:19you know,
- 14:19petty thug or whatever that was displayed in those films.
- 14:24But that Lex Luthor fit the tone of that movie,
- 14:29fit the story that.
- 14:30they were telling richard donald was telling in that film and so i'm not mad at it you know so this is no disrespect to him he fit that that film uh kevin spacey and superman return fit
- 14:46that film which was pretty much a continuation of the gene hackman's uh lex luthor but i think kevin spacey was the closest thing up to this point the closest thing to the lex luthor
- 15:00that
- 15:01I remember from the comics.
- 15:04and I'm just talking film because
- 15:07Michael Rosenbaum on Smallville has been my favorite Lex Luthor ever,
- 15:15you know,
- 15:15and he's still up there with me,
- 15:17but it's something about Nicholas Holt's performance in this film that made him one of the best comic book villains in all of comic book films.
- 15:32Uh,
- 15:33i'm including marvel in past uh uh dc films he managed to blend and i'm talking a perfect blend here blend a level of menace of
- 15:49entitlement of uh even compassion you know there's there's a genius,
- 15:58all of this wrapped up in one and make.
- 16:02that character so layered which he could have been this mustache trailing villain which you know you script down the layers uh that's basically what lex luther is but he gave that character so
- 16:18much you know and i don't know if it's how the character was written or how it was acted by Nicholas Hope or a combination of both.
- 16:29But it.
- 16:30absolutely worked in this movie love this lex luther the perfect lex luther for this superman for this cinematic universe that we're going forward with and so we get that introduction we get introduced to miss tess macker who plays a bigger role later on and
- 16:52everything up to this point it was it was it was coming together i'm not going to sit here and say that the first
- 17:0030 minutes of this movie was perfect because it wasn't because up to this point i'm kind of confused i'm like is this a non-linear story are we going to be going in flashbacks and this that and the third i'm like where are we going with this i'm liking what i'm seeing i'm just not understanding where the story is going at this point and
- 17:24i was hoping to get that because i know the movie's only two hours long and we're 30 minutes in
- 17:30so i wanted to kind of get a sense of what's going on up to this point but that was immediately thrown away even though i still didn't know and had questions i was enjoying the
- 17:46next two scenes so much i forgot you know and that was the two scenes that we got basically our only exposure to clark kent you know uh die.
- 17:59Clark Kent in the Daily Planet and the scene with
- 18:04Clark and Lois in the apartment for the interview scene.
- 18:09The scene in the
- 18:11Daily Planet,
- 18:12which on my first viewing,
- 18:15I was kind of,
- 18:19I think in my review,
- 18:20I mentioned that
- 18:22I didn't too much care for David Cornswet's
- 18:26Clark Kent performance.
- 18:29I know why I said that,
- 18:31but after I watched it the second time,
- 18:35I appreciated it a little more.
- 18:37I saw little nuances that he was doing that I didn't pick up on in the first viewing,
- 18:44and
- 18:45I appreciated it more.
- 18:47I still stand by the fact his voice didn't really change,
- 18:51and like I said before,
- 18:53I'm not expecting him to do the whole...
- 18:56Christian Bale Batman switch up with his voice
- 18:59I'm just me you know he just the way his voice comes out and I guess it's just David Cornswet's voice he he has this confident strong voice and it's the same voice he uses for Superman you know that same tone
- 19:17and you know like well you know it is not
- 19:24it's not hard to pick up on the fact that it's the same person that's that's my whole thing now i get the hypno glasses that we do find out and this is in the comics this is comic accurate that he wears hypno glasses to uh you
- 19:40know throw off his appearance to everybody that looks at him and so they won't look at him and say you know what you resemble superman but the glasses throw you off so
- 19:52it was just the voice thing.
- 19:53And I think in my mind,
- 19:55and I,
- 19:56I constantly tell myself that I don't want to compare
- 20:00David Cornswet to Henry Cavill.
- 20:03Don't want to compare them to Christopher Reeves or.
- 20:06or Tom Welling or whoever,
- 20:08Brandon Rolfe.
- 20:08I don't want to do that.
- 20:10This is his version.
- 20:11And
- 20:12I found myself realizing that when I made that statement in my review,
- 20:18I was comparing him.
- 20:19I was comparing him to Christopher Reeve.
- 20:21Christopher Reeve did the best transition of those characters.
- 20:27I say those.
- 20:27It's the same character.
- 20:29Clark Kent in Superman.
- 20:31Just the way he slumped his shoulders when he was Clark.
- 20:35the way he lumbered around and clumsy and just he didn't change his voice to the degree of squeaky but it was just a little subtle thing that he did and you know when he was superman he would broaden his shoulders and stick his chest out and chin up and his
- 20:56voice was more confident and strong and it was just those little things that made christopher reeve
- 21:04one of the best supermen if not the best superman according to my mom uh the best superman to ever put on the suit and i was unfairly putting that on david corn sweat now i do appreciate what
- 21:22the little things that he was doing in that scene now when we get to the scene with him and lois uh this uh i think they're calling it the interview scene uh
- 21:34That's different because he was him.
- 21:36He was just him.
- 21:36He wasn't Clark.
- 21:38He was Kal-El.
- 21:39He was Superman.
- 21:39He was just him.
- 21:42This was my favorite scene in the movie.
- 21:45Yes,
- 21:45the punchy punchy smash smash with the kaiju and
- 21:49Ultraman and the engineer and all that.
- 21:51All that was fun and good.
- 21:53But this was my favorite scene in the film.
- 21:57Rachel
- 21:58Brosnahan as Lois Lane was probably the best casting throughout this entire film.
- 22:04film the entire cast was banger this was great casting by uh james gunn throughout this entire film he the dude's a genius you can say what you want about james gunn he's a genius he he knows what he wants he has a vision and he executes it uh everybody a part of this film was perfectly but
- 22:26nothing can be as perfect as racial rachel brosnahan as lois she
- 22:33She's the best Lois Lane,
- 22:35hands down,
- 22:37hands down.
- 22:39And I know there's a lot of Margo Kidder fans out there who was screaming blasts from me at me right now.
- 22:45But come on,
- 22:46I'm sorry.
- 22:47And I love Margo Kidder.
- 22:49But come on,
- 22:51Rachel Brosnahan was born to play Lois Lane.
- 22:56Just watch one episode of The Marvelous Mrs.
- 22:59Mabel.
- 23:01I said it back then,
- 23:02and this is before any consideration for a Superman movie at the time.
- 23:07I said,
- 23:07man,
- 23:07she would make a perfect Lois Lane.
- 23:09You know,
- 23:10I always felt that watching that show.
- 23:14And when this came around and they announced that they cast her,
- 23:18I was like,
- 23:18well,
- 23:19that's a duh.
- 23:21That's a no-brainer.
- 23:24And she knocked it out the park.
- 23:25But what made it so great,
- 23:27what made her performance so great,
- 23:30was the chemistry between her and David Cornswet,
- 23:35and it showed so much in this scene.
- 23:40If I had one knock about Lois Lane in this movie,
- 23:44and it has absolutely nothing to do with Rachel Brosnahan,
- 23:48is the fact that she kind of disappears in the third act.
- 23:52She doesn't have much to do in the third act,
- 23:54because we get this powerful scene in the first act.
- 23:58we get another great scene well a couple of great scenes in the second act uh her interacting with the justice gang and her with mr terrific as they go to that pocket dimension that she is great and
- 24:14she kind of get lost in the shuffle in the third act but that's my only knock and that's not her fault but she was excellent man excellent and this scene was so good
- 24:27how they switched it up it went from lovey-dovey to playful banter to actual heated discussion to the point that they basically almost broke up if not completely broke up i
- 24:43know they was on the they were on the fence there when clark left the apartment and it just escalated to that point and this was like uh i don't know how long was this scene it felt like
- 24:57It took up half the movie,
- 24:58but I'm not mad at it taking up half the movie.
- 25:01It was so good.
- 25:03You couldn't cut nothing from that scene.
- 25:04That was just...
- 25:06that was just cinema there you know you letting actors just act letting them do their thing just letting them eat and it it almost stole the movie i i would have i would have sat there for two hours and watched lois
- 25:23and clark just go back and forth at the dinner table and have been happy i would have felt i got my money's worth uh that's how good that scene was but
- 25:36in the midst of that scene we learn a lot of story we find out that superman is kind of a lone wolf you know he marched to the beat of his own drum he doesn't take orders from the president he doesn't take orders from the justice gang he doesn't take orders from the uh some
- 25:55conglomerate or anything like that he he marches to the beat of his own drum he goes where he's needed where he feels
- 26:03help is needed to save lives no matter what and he intervenes in this invasion that we later find out that uh lex luther is orchestrating uh just to have
- 26:18the world turn on superman and so he goes to stop this war and inadvertently gets involved in this geopolitical uh battle i guess you could say
- 26:32and it sparks up a whole nother thing which brings me to a point uh that i wanted to talk about before but i couldn't and it's the i don't know it's the real world implications here you know it it's it this movie mirrors exactly
- 26:54what's happening in the world right now you know you could watch
- 26:59You can go to the theater,
- 27:00watch Superman,
- 27:01go home,
- 27:01turn on CNN,
- 27:03and it's the same thing.
- 27:05It's the exact same thing.
- 27:07It's just with different names for the countries and different names for
- 27:11Lex Luthor.
- 27:12Replace Lex Luthor with
- 27:14Elon Musk and you'll get the movie.
- 27:19It's pretty much the same thing.
- 27:21And so it's definitely timely and poignant,
- 27:27if you will.
- 27:28and so lex luther and his uh minions the engineer and uh ultraman they invade the fortress of solitude and
- 27:43once again sitting there in the theater first time when i watched it the first time i'm like how did he just walk up to the fortress you know and they explained it away but you know when i watched it the first time i was like
- 27:58boy they're gonna have to explain this but uh we find out that ultra man is uh the clone of superman you know so they used his dna and that's how they got in but anyway they invade the fortress of solitude we see the engineer just just
- 28:18go to town on the superman robots which was cool cool little fight gets in a fight with crypto we get to see some crypto action there
- 28:28And then we get our big little turning point at this juncture of the movie.
- 28:36When Superman,
- 28:37the first scene in the movie when
- 28:39Superman was brought back to the fortress and the Superman robots turned on the message from
- 28:47Krypton of his parents,
- 28:48his biological parents,
- 28:50who was played by Bradley Cooper as Joel.
- 28:55um and the mother i don't know i've seen that actress in something but i can't recall what i seen her in uh but that's neither here nor there um they play his parents and they're uh tell uh they sent the message and the message got damaged
- 29:13when he came to earth or crashed on earth or whatever so you only get the first half of the message in the first half of the matches message is uh uplifting today
- 29:25it's inspiring you know we sent you to earth to to help and to uh be a beacon of light or whatever the case may be and when the engineer hacks into the computer there at the fortress of solitude she is able to decrypt the
- 29:44second half of the message where we find out that joel and his mother sent them to earth to conquer earth and so this is
- 29:54Oh.
- 29:56all the gas that
- 29:58Lex needed to start this fire you know this this pretty much uh confirms his feelings about
- 30:05Superman you know that he's an alien he's here to uh rule over us or whatever the case may be so this this was confirmation in his eyes and so he releases the message all the while while he's invading um the Fortress of Solitude he has a little distraction going on he
- 30:25unleashes this kaiju on metropolis and this is when we get the fight we see in the trailer and he's fighting the kaiju and uh this is where at this moment when i fell in love with
- 30:41david corn sweats version of superman something that we didn't get to see in other versions of this character on the big screen
- 30:53While he was fighting this giant monster,
- 30:57he would stop and save people.
- 30:59He would save a dog from being crushed by the foot of this monster.
- 31:05He saved a woman from being crushed and saved these people that was in the building.
- 31:13Every time he saved them,
- 31:16he would smile at them.
- 31:17He'll ask them if they was okay.
- 31:20He'll give them little...
- 31:23affirmations i guess you know just breathe you know just just take deep breaths and whatever it's stuff like that and give a smile and that's the superman that i loved from the comics this is the superman that i
- 31:40always envisioned you know in live action and i finally got to see it love henry cowell love him
- 31:49But that was such a dark and moody guy to say he was Superman.
- 31:56But for that film,
- 31:58he fit that vision of Zack Snyder.
- 32:01Now,
- 32:02for comic fans and lovers of the animated show,
- 32:07this is the Superman for you.
- 32:09This is exactly what I wanted to see.
- 32:13And from at that point in the film,
- 32:16I knew that.
- 32:18Nothing else could bother me throughout this movie and nothing did.
- 32:22Yeah,
- 32:22I had some little nitpicks from that moment on,
- 32:26but nothing to deter me from feeling that this was a great Superman movie.
- 32:32And so he defeats the Kaiju with the help of the Justice Gang.
- 32:37This is when we get introduced to
- 32:40Guy Gardner's
- 32:42Green Lantern,
- 32:43played by Nathan Fillion,
- 32:46Mr.
- 32:47Terrific.
- 32:47played by Eddie
- 32:49Nami.
- 32:50I can't pronounce his name.
- 32:51I had it.
- 32:53I practiced it before I started the show,
- 32:56and I still can't get it out.
- 32:58But
- 32:59I do enjoy him as an actor.
- 33:02He stole the movie,
- 33:03to be honest.
- 33:03Every scene that he was in,
- 33:05he stole the movie.
- 33:06I love Mr.
- 33:07Terrific in this movie.
- 33:09And we got Hawkgirl played by
- 33:12Isabella Morset.
- 33:13This was...
- 33:16an interesting decision by James Gunn to include these characters in this story.
- 33:24The easiest thing to do,
- 33:26the low-hanging fruit,
- 33:27of course,
- 33:28you're going to bring in
- 33:29Hal Jordan,
- 33:31Green
- 33:33Lantern. They'll bring in Wonder Woman,
- 33:35bring in Batman,
- 33:36you know,
- 33:37the most notable of superheroes in the DC lore.
- 33:42But he decided to pick these
- 33:46X-Ups
- 33:46obscure characters and that's what james gunn do if you really go through the history of his films who knew anything about the guardians of the galaxy before the movies came out i didn't you know i read comics you know i did not know anything about guardians when he did the suicide squad i
- 34:06knew a couple of those characters i didn't know all of peacemaker i knew nothing about and that ended up being the best character in the film i mean end
- 34:16got his own tv show and has a cameo in this movie and i i love peacemaker and so he has a way of finding the most obscure characters and turning them into something and so this was a
- 34:32interesting choice to pick these particular characters to pop up in this film um i said in my initial review that i was worried about that you know leading up to the film with the
- 34:44trailers and everything that okay we're going to be oversaturated with all of these dc characters and this is supposed to be a superhero or a superman film
- 34:56I don't want to see all of these characters man if you're going to do that just make a Justice League movie but instead we got the right amount of these characters you know because he's building a universe here and so you can't just have a movie with just Superman and nothing else happens you know you have to incorporate these
- 35:15characters in some way and expand the universe out that way and I thought that was genius and using these particular characters was smart.
- 35:26And they did not oversaturate the movie.
- 35:29They were used properly.
- 35:32They came in to do their jobs and they did it perfectly.
- 35:36The only one who got shortchanged in this film is Hulk Girl,
- 35:41is Isabella Morissette.
- 35:44You know,
- 35:44Guy Garner had a great part.
- 35:47Mr.
- 35:47Terrific had a terrific part.
- 35:51Not so much with Hulk Girl.
- 35:52She was just there.
- 35:53And that's my...
- 35:55That's the only part about that whole Justice gang that I just can't get over.
- 36:01Even after the second viewing,
- 36:03it was worse.
- 36:04That's the only part about this movie that got worse on the second viewing.
- 36:09And that was Hawkgirl.
- 36:10Because I can't help but wonder,
- 36:13was her part cut or what?
- 36:16I mean,
- 36:16what happened here?
- 36:17Because we got nothing.
- 36:19And if you followed Hawkgirl in the comics,
- 36:22you would know that
- 36:23that is a very interesting character and i'm not saying we had to do a whole backstory and origin story and tell her arc in this movie but you could have hinted to something about her character we didn't get that in this film but it
- 36:43is what it is you know hopefully moving forward we'll get more you know and so around this time they defeated the kaiju and
- 36:53voila next thing you know lex luther released the footage of the message from his parents and now everybody turns on him now this was another part and him i mean superman this was another part of the movie where i was like uh
- 37:11i get what you're doing i'm a i'm a roll with what you're doing but i wish it was done a little better and what i mean by that is
- 37:23the people instantly turned on superman i mean instant i understand i understand they saw the message i understand that uh
- 37:38that initially the plans were from his parents for him to come to earth and take over but nothing from superman throughout the i think three years he's been Superman,
- 37:51at least.
- 37:51That's the way they set it up in this film.
- 37:55Nothing indicates that he's anything like that.
- 37:58He's a hero.
- 37:58He literally just risked his life to save everybody.
- 38:05And they instantly turned.
- 38:07I'm not saying the people shouldn't have turned.
- 38:09Yeah,
- 38:10but it should have been kind of a rollout to it.
- 38:14As opposed to immediately shouting and cursing him out and throwing cans at his head and all this other stuff.
- 38:21It was like too fast for me.
- 38:24It didn't that just didn't work
- 38:28But I get the context of the story
- 38:31I just wish it was kind of played out a little better,
- 38:34but that's just me,
- 38:36you know,
- 38:37so now we get
- 38:40Superman he decides to turn himself in to the
- 38:45Justice Department Because he's a Boy Scout,
- 38:48you know,
- 38:48he's not gonna go on a run
- 38:50and so he turns himself in and uh rick flagg who uh i love rick flagg and creature commandos i love frank grillo who plays uh rick flagg senior i didn't see the purpose of him being in this movie he was in for two scenes and
- 39:10this was one of them and he he said maybe two words but it was nothing he was just there and i know he
- 39:19he's gonna have a bigger role in the peacemaker season two series uh but i don't know it was just weird that he was just there to be there he he was there he was more useless than hawk girl and that's saying something but anyways he gets turned into lex luther and lex luther puts him in that pocket dimension and
- 39:43this is where we meet uh metamorpho and he
- 39:48uh you know crabs uh kryptonite to weaken superman and
- 39:54This is where we get to see
- 39:56Lex Luthor be as diabolical that I've ever seen in any iteration of this character.
- 40:06Where he literally blows a man's head off in front of Superman.
- 40:13A guy that helps him.
- 40:15A guy that is a fan of Superman.
- 40:18And playing Russian roulette with him and just kills him.
- 40:21And like,
- 40:21okay,
- 40:22well,
- 40:22we'll find somebody else.
- 40:24We're going to get somebody else to find out because he's interrogating him to find out who raised him,
- 40:31who found him as a baby,
- 40:36you know.
- 40:36And,
- 40:37of course,
- 40:37Superman won't tell.
- 40:39And so he killed the guy.
- 40:41And I'm like,
- 40:42man,
- 40:42Lex,
- 40:43Lex is a beast in this movie,
- 40:45man.
- 40:45And Nicholas Hope,
- 40:47I tell you,
- 40:47bro,
- 40:48I cannot scream any louder my praise for this man.
- 40:53as this character just to think that initially he went there when he uh when he was auditioning for this movie he was auditioning to be superman nicholas hope and i wasn't mad at that idea because i like nicholas hope uh from playing in the x-men films and uh numerous other projects that he he was in i
- 41:19really do enjoy him even though i see him more as a batman but
- 41:23I would have took him as Superman.
- 41:26But no.
- 41:27Once again,
- 41:28James Gunn,
- 41:29genius move,
- 41:30saw something else.
- 41:32He saw something else there.
- 41:34And when they cast him as Lex Luthor,
- 41:38I was a little skeptical.
- 41:40Can he pull it off?
- 41:42And then I thought about,
- 41:43well,
- 41:43Jesse Eisenberg.
- 41:45God bless him.
- 41:47As long as he isn't that,
- 41:50I'll be all right with it.
- 41:51Well,
- 41:51he blew that out.
- 41:52completely out of the water but upon witnessing that brutal killing metamorpho he finds he he finds a new i don't know heart he gets the heart he decides that now he wants superman to get out and help him save his baby uh
- 42:14little baby joey once again from the comics didn't ever think i'll see that in film,
- 42:19but we got to see it.
- 42:22He creates a version of the sun to power up Superman.
- 42:26They escape.
- 42:29There's an epic little battle there where Superman is holding the baby about trying to fight off those rafters.
- 42:37And you've got a proton river that's about to suck him into a black hole.
- 42:44And all this is going on.
- 42:46All the while,
- 42:46you've got Mr.
- 42:47Terrific and Lois.
- 42:50they found their way into the pocket dimension and crypto is there as well and it sounds messy on the surface but it actually flowed pretty well i thought this was a really good scene a exciting scene we
- 43:05get out of the pocket dimension and lois lane brings uh superman to home brings him to smallville to be with his parents so he can recuperate from all uh
- 43:19the radiation that he got from that kryptonite and another great scene between david corn sweat and uh oh my god what's his name uh puett puett taylor who plays uh jonathan kent uh
- 43:37what a scene man and once again i'm sitting in the theater and my dog i guess my daughter knew she sensed it on me uh
- 43:49Knowing the relationship between me and my father and how deep that conversation was between
- 43:59Clark and Jonathan Kent.
- 44:01And it was,
- 44:04yeah,
- 44:05it was Niagara Falls.
- 44:06I was in there crying.
- 44:08I was crying because I felt it because those conversations or similar conversations took place between me and my dad.
- 44:18And I remember every when when I watched it,
- 44:22I can just picture my dad telling me everything that Jonathan Kent was telling
- 44:28Clark in that moment.
- 44:29And it just I I did good.
- 44:33I did good.
- 44:34It wasn't complete.
- 44:37My makeup didn't run,
- 44:38but I was it was it was it had a couple of tears that dropped out.
- 44:44But
- 44:44It was a powerful scene,
- 44:46really good scene,
- 44:47and it really reinforced the fact that,
- 44:50because Clark,
- 44:51that he was so worried about...
- 44:54why his biological parents sent him to Earth.
- 44:59And that reassured him that,
- 45:03you know,
- 45:03that conversation with Jonathan reassured him that his real parents were Jonathan and Martha Kent.
- 45:11And those
- 45:13Joel L.
- 45:14and why am I blanking on her name?
- 45:17But the mother name.
- 45:19But they,
- 45:20yeah,
- 45:21they are his biological parents.
- 45:23but that's not what reared him up that's not why he is who he is jonathan and martha kent is the reason superman is who he is and i thought it they did a excellent job by
- 45:40depicting that in one small scene we didn't need an origin we didn't need to see jonathan kent raising him up and
- 45:52teaching them right from wrong and you know we didn't have to have a scene where they sit them on a couch and try to uh reinforce you know oh no you you fight for good truth justice in american way it was none of that you
- 46:08know it was just a small subtle scene and it told you everything that you needed to know and it it worked so well and i was just amazed by how
- 46:22Less was more in this instant.
- 46:26But anyways,
- 46:27meanwhile,
- 46:28Lex Luthor,
- 46:28he's mad now.
- 46:30Superman got free,
- 46:31so he,
- 46:32you know,
- 46:33ramps up the power on that pocket dimension portal thing.
- 46:37And it exploded to the point where it caused the rift.
- 46:42So now
- 46:43Metropolis is about to get swallowed up in this rift.
- 46:46And this was cool.
- 46:47I like this scene.
- 46:51to see the destruction of metropolis now this was destruction done right as opposed to man of steel where metropolis just turned into a scorched earth wasteland during
- 47:07the battle this this made sense this felt comic booky this felt animated serious you know the way the the city was just being torn apart by this
- 47:20by this rift and all the while you have superman going around he's catching buildings from falling on uh this woman in a car you know he he gets in a fight with the engineer and ultraman in this stadium which was cool all
- 47:39the while you have an invasion that's about to take place in um in those two between those two fictional countries and
- 47:49this was another scene that almost had me crying and it wasn't a scene it was more or less just one little part and that's when the little kid was holding up the flag and calling out to superman and i don't know why that moved me it
- 48:04just moved me i was like come on but superman's tied up with this battle and you're like oh my god is he gonna be get there on time because those people about to get annihilated by his army.
- 48:18and so he's in this battle and uh of course he's struggling you know because he's going up against two superhuman beings you know two metahumans and one of them is his clone who we get get that reveal in a couple of minutes but they're
- 48:37going at it in the stadium to the point where they figured out that okay i'm gonna use uh the engineer who is made up of all nanobots
- 48:48i'm gonna take the nanobots and uh smother you and fill up your lungs and kill you you know that's in that that's one way to kill superman i mean he's super but i i don't think he's super enough to whereas he can live without brain breathing and
- 49:05so he comes up with the plan he's gonna fly out into the atmosphere with both of them attached to him and just come back down with the force of a meteor and that's how he gets loose
- 49:17from it and able to uh uh throw up those nanobots and this this incapacitates the engineer who we don't see anymore uh in the movie and that kind of bothered me too i was like well how
- 49:34you knock out somebody that's made of nanobots i mean it that that was weird to me but whatever uh i looked past that because we didn't have time to breathe because superman was going up against
- 49:47Ultraman whose suit was all torn up from the impact of them falling back to Earth.
- 49:53He takes off the suit.
- 49:56And it is none other than a clone of Superman.
- 50:00It was David Cornsweat with a wig on.
- 50:03And if you read comics,
- 50:06you pretty much know who Ultraman is.
- 50:08And that's basically what he is.
- 50:10And so it didn't come as a shock.
- 50:13But it still was a shock to me.
- 50:15I don't know why it surprised me in the movie.
- 50:18And I know who Ultraman is.
- 50:20But it still surprised me in the film.
- 50:23And you have Lex Luthor.
- 50:25controlling him uh because lex luther once again showing his genius and this was planted throughout the film when he fought the uh hammer of bararia uh with ultraman in that suit but that lex was controlling him you know because lex had figure out all
- 50:44of superman's fighting style or how he fought so he he came up and devised this plan on how to defeat him you know with this fighting.
- 50:55you know,
- 50:55had these team of tech wizards that can orchestrate this fight.
- 51:01And that's how
- 51:02Superman struggled so much,
- 51:04because
- 51:05Lex Luthor figured out how to beat him.
- 51:08He knows his moves,
- 51:09his every move.
- 51:10He studied him.
- 51:12So they go at it back and forth.
- 51:16Of course,
- 51:18Ultraman is having an upper hand.
- 51:21Lex Luthor makes the comment that
- 51:24you know you can't beat brains braun cannot beat brain and superman smiles and he's like yeah i have the brains too i have brains too or something to that effect and he whistles and
- 51:39who comes to the rescue it is none other than crypto another another uh element i think right before that we find out that yes clark is not going to be able to get to
- 51:53beraria to save those people from that army he called the justice game to go help and that's so similar to what we witnessed in the animated series and i was so shocked and surprised by that again i'm like okay this works this works perfectly and so So he
- 52:16whistles for Crypto.
- 52:17Crypto comes and gets
- 52:20Ultraman off of him.
- 52:22And they both team up because at this point,
- 52:25Lex doesn't have a plan for crypto.
- 52:29So they were able to get the get the upper hand to the point where
- 52:37Superman throws
- 52:39Ultraman into the black hole.
- 52:42And
- 52:43I don't know if this is going to set up Bizarro or or what,
- 52:48but.
- 52:49that's that could be a nice way to set up bizarro later on down the line but if we never revisit it again that's fine too that doesn't have to be revisited so uh the rafters come the other squad this little legion of warriors that lex have and
- 53:09superman and crypto just go to work on them he he were he goes to work on them now he's going after lex uh
- 53:18gives lex a nice speech you know as crypto works him it reminded me of uh when the hawk took loki you know the puny god scene in the avengers it was the same thing crypto
- 53:38worked lex lute i'm like man is he gonna kill him i was getting kind of worried for the legs i ain't gonna lie
- 53:47But he probably wished he was dead after that beating.
- 53:52But that was cool.
- 53:53And they end up throwing Lex Luthor into
- 53:56Belle Reeves.
- 53:59And we get the obligatory
- 54:04Superman-Lois kiss at the end of the battle and whatnot.
- 54:09And Superman,
- 54:10he's back at the Fortress of Solitude,
- 54:14getting healed up from all of this.
- 54:16battling he been doing and who drops by but his cousin carla carla zorrell yes played by millie adcock if you are a fan of uh house of the dragon yes her is she she's
- 54:34playing uh carla zorrell's aka supergirl and supergirl that comes out next year but she makes a cameo in this movie to pick crypto
- 54:45We found out is actually her dog all this time Superman was just dog sitting with
- 54:54Before Supergirl,
- 54:55but that was a nice little scene
- 54:58uh to see her in the one thing i didn't like about it was the explanation it i did not like that superman told the superman robot uh oh you know she goes to a planet
- 55:13that has a red sun so she can get drunk because our metabolism here uh we can't get drunk and blah blah blah that's all fine and good and that's true but
- 55:26why are you telling this to the superman robots shouldn't they know that already i'm like okay why are you if they already know who are you explaining it to us we don't need to know that we'll find that out next year when
- 55:42supergirl comes out i didn't need the explanation you know and i already knew why she was drunk you know but it's still kind of baffling why is she still drunk
- 55:55because she is currently under a yellow sun that would have that would have wore off i'm just saying but anyways that was the end of the film uh but well i will say the last scene was also epic in my humble opinion because when
- 56:17superman in the first scene he returned to the fortress of solitude the superman robots uh
- 56:24turned on the message from his biological parents to soothe him so this time when he's healing up in the fortress of solitude the superman robots turns on his parents video to soothe him and
- 56:41this time it was jonathan and martha kent and what was so genius about this and i didn't pick it up
- 56:51until the second viewing.
- 56:52That's why I said it was just little things that
- 56:56I didn't catch the first time that I caught today when I watched it again.
- 57:03It was the fact that when that first scene,
- 57:07when we see his biological parents,
- 57:11that's the scene when he was healing up and the sun rays are healing him.
- 57:17And those...
- 57:18That message was supposed to soothe him,
- 57:21yet when the rays hit him,
- 57:23he was screaming.
- 57:24He was in pain because his bones were getting back in place.
- 57:29He was healing up rapidly.
- 57:31So he was screaming in pain,
- 57:33listening to their voices.
- 57:35At the end of this movie,
- 57:37while he's healing up and watching the footage of Jonathan and Malte Kent when he was younger and his
- 57:46Jonathan Kent.
- 57:47lifting him up in the air and he's posing like superman as a little kid and stuff like that he's smiling and the movie goes off once again another tear rolled down my eye this time i was by myself so i didn't i didn't have to worry about my daughter looking at me but
- 58:07yes yeah i thought that was genius that was so poetic but overall this was this was it.
- 58:14excellent superman movie i i thought that we would get at least a decent movie i wasn't expecting much from it to be honest with you and i got much more i got a whole lot more and i'm excited for this universe going forward as i stated in my initial review
- 58:35and so like i said just to add on this movie is still a b plus in my humble opinion i think it's
- 58:44One of the best Superman movies,
- 58:46if not the best.
- 58:47I'm not going to fight anybody on that,
- 58:49if that's your opinion.
- 58:52Superman movies to be released.
- 58:55I super enjoyed it,
- 58:57and I will be going to see it for a third time before it's all said and done.
- 59:02Well,
- 59:02I got to do it this week,
- 59:03because next week,
- 59:04of course,
- 59:05is Fantastic Four.
- 59:07But I'm super,
- 59:09super happy,
- 59:10and,
- 59:11you know.
- 59:12round of applause to james gunn for giving us a movie full of heart full of hope and a cinematic universe that we can be excited about but once again i would love to know what were your thoughts of superman did you enjoy superman did you think it's up there with richard donner's uh 1978 superman or do you
- 59:38Think it's more along the lines of Superman 4,
- 59:41A Quest for Peace.
- 59:42I would love to hear your thoughts about this version.
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