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From Vanderpump to Valley: Jax’s Final Episode - Reunion Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King, we are finishing up the Valley.
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  Speaker 2: What a great season it has been.
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  Speaker 1: Part three reunion just air and I'm back to my
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  Speaker 1: assistant Lizzie to give it all a recap.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Lizzy, Hi, I'm excited to be here again. Thank
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  Speaker 3: you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for saying yes to this mess. We need to
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  Speaker 1: just get right into it. So the reunion picked up
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  Speaker 1: where leaftof last week, which is the cast talking about
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  Speaker 1: Danny and his drinking.
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  Speaker 2: And I do want to stick with Danny.
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  Speaker 1: For a while as we talk about the other accusations
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  Speaker 1: flying in his direction. But first and first they are saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Danny's drinking, is it a problem, And it
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  Speaker 1: seems to me that which I thought was funny. Who
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  Speaker 1: was it that said that this whole cast has a
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  Speaker 1: drinking problem? Jason, Yeah, And I'm kind of like not
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  Speaker 1: to like add a label onto these people, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like they're young, they're fun, they live in California,
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  Speaker 1: the unreality show. I just think they'd like to drink.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's certain people who can't hold their liquor,
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  Speaker 1: and I just think Danny is one of those people.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you think about that whole dialogue about it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's it. That's exactly what it is. And also
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  Speaker 3: you said, I do want to spend some time on Danny.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's really pretty much all what this was about
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  Speaker 3: Danny and Janet this part three. So there's no way
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  Speaker 3: that we can't spend time on Danny. I think that
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  Speaker 3: that is such a tough road to walk with accusations.
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  Speaker 3: People have drinking problems, and I think that most of us,
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  Speaker 3: most of us think O drinking problem means alcoholic, which
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  Speaker 3: is exactly what Jesse brought up. Also, you know he said,
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  Speaker 3: he said, well, my thought is that you need to
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  Speaker 3: function to drink. You and I said this last week.
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  Speaker 3: We think that he doesn't handle his drinking well. He
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  Speaker 3: doesn't handle his alcohol well Danny, and he's a messy drunk.
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  Speaker 3: It is what it is. I think that they harped
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  Speaker 3: on this a lot. I do not disagree that he
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  Speaker 3: does some uncomfortable things he's drinking, But to make a
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  Speaker 3: show that is so centered around one of them owns
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  Speaker 3: a bar, going out and partying, I mean, did you
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  Speaker 3: watch vander Pump Rules. That's where people came from. No
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  Speaker 3: one ever brought that up then when it I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was just madness, right, I mean the alcohol consumption
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  Speaker 3: on that show. And I think that I think that
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  Speaker 3: they are really nitpicking on one thing, and they're really
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  Speaker 3: going hard off of Danny. Hey, if you want to
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  Speaker 3: feel that way about Danny, go for it. You know
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  Speaker 3: he's done things that makes you think he's inappropriate and
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  Speaker 3: makes you think he's a little creepy. But also look
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  Speaker 3: to your right and please go hard in on Jack's
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  Speaker 3: don't sit there and say, well he's trying. Please give
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  Speaker 3: him the exact same energy yeah you give Danny in
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  Speaker 3: every single episode.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you. I
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  Speaker 1: Like I said before, I think Danny's a fumboy. I
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  Speaker 1: think Danny likes a drink. I think they all like
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  Speaker 1: to drink. I think some of them can handle the well.
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  Speaker 1: I think Danny needs to possibly just watch how much
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  Speaker 1: he intakes.
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  Speaker 2: And for me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we all right, but that's the thing, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: exactly exactly Listen. It's one thing listen not to desynthesize
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  Speaker 1: exactly what happened. But if the conversation was when Danny drinks,
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  Speaker 1: he gets behind the word of a car. Sure, and
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  Speaker 1: and we're concerned about him putting not only his life
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  Speaker 1: but the lives of other people in jeopardy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a cost for concern.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right In terms of this entire show,
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  Speaker 1: which is a spin off of that The Pump Rules,
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  Speaker 1: It's center around a bar and and and and Jack's
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  Speaker 1: owning the bar and these people working there and and
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  Speaker 1: and frequenting there.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like Cheers.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Lizzie, you're much younger than me, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know about the TV show called Cheers
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  Speaker 1: where every time Norm walked in, it was like, hey Norm,
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  Speaker 1: so listen, maybe that Danny, Hey Danny, you know he's
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  Speaker 1: walking to a bar.
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  Speaker 4: The bar tend to knows him the janitor knows him,
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  Speaker 4: the bus boy knows him. Maybe that's his thing, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, based on what I'm seeing. I just
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  Speaker 4: don't think this brother is an alcoholic. I just I
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  Speaker 4: just don't you.
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  Speaker 3: And if he was, it wouldn't be your place to
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  Speaker 3: say that anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, exactly, that's true. That that is true. That is true. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: clock it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I do have I do have two things
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  Speaker 3: to say about that, though. You and I've had conversations
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  Speaker 3: just in our personal downloads about all these shows, and
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  Speaker 3: it kind of brings you back to the Shannon Badoor situation.
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  Speaker 3: She was drinking, she did get behind a wheel, and
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  Speaker 3: she she apologized, but they went on her for seasons
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  Speaker 3: about it, and at some point it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: you made a mistake. Enough is enough. I'm not same
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  Speaker 3: with you, not downplaying what happened. She got hurt herself,
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  Speaker 3: she could have really hurt someone else. And the same
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  Speaker 3: thing with Danny. You know, his actions really hurt someone
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  Speaker 3: as well. And but but at once, at some point,
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  Speaker 3: when do you stop. And I really don't think that
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  Speaker 3: Janet stops, because you see how rouled up that Nia gets.
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  Speaker 3: Nia doesn't do doesn't give much emotion or drama in
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  Speaker 3: the show. And I think that the way that she
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  Speaker 3: defends Danny and how hard she goes and how it
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  Speaker 3: just irks her to know, and we saw her walk
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  Speaker 3: out of a scene that's not the page in Queen
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  Speaker 3: that I feel like I saw last sear you know,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that I think Janna knows that it
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  Speaker 3: gets her hYP.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure, for sure. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it is the other reason why. And I want to
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  Speaker 1: be very sensitive to this too, because sexual assault is
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  Speaker 1: a real thing and it happens every day unfortunately. So
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  Speaker 1: when it came to speaking of Janet, Janet accused Danny
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  Speaker 1: of touching women approperly, touching their butts.
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  Speaker 2: She brought in the situation with Jasmin.
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  Speaker 1: She used the word sexual assault, and I appreciated Andy
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  Speaker 1: saying like, because.
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  Speaker 2: Again, what is the definition of it.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have Jason who's a lawyer, although they clowned
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  Speaker 1: him and said, honey, you.
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  Speaker 2: Are they sure did, honey, what is it? You are
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  Speaker 2: like a Lindsey the wage workers.
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  Speaker 3: So look, if the cameraman drops a camera on his
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  Speaker 3: so give him a call.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't slip and fall at your job, honey,
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  Speaker 2: definitely call him.
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  Speaker 3: You know the White Rubbers sold shoes in their home.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't need no problems with Jason Child.
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  Speaker 1: So Jason is like, based on the definition of Janet
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  Speaker 1: saying he has sexually assaulted.
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  Speaker 2: Jasmine touching, But.
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  Speaker 1: Jason's like, that's considered battery, because I think when we
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  Speaker 1: all hear sexual assault, it's sort of like, again, this
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  Speaker 1: is this was this is what I thought right hearing it,
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  Speaker 1: where you're sort of like forcing yourself upon somebody physically,
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  Speaker 1: You're you're forcibly holding someone against their will. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought, honestly. So to know that it was Danny
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  Speaker 1: just in appropectly touching people again Jasmine was there, I
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  Speaker 1: felt it was a very dangerous claim that could have
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  Speaker 1: and listen, it just wrapped, could have had some very
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  Speaker 1: severe damn images to Dani's reputation.
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  Speaker 2: Because yes, on one hand, you should not touch anyone
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  Speaker 2: without their consent. We do.
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  Speaker 1: We know that. Don't touch my butt, I won't touch
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  Speaker 1: your wars, right, But is that considered sexual assault? And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where things turn gray in this reunion.
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  Speaker 1: And dare I say a little fifty shades of gray,
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  Speaker 1: little darkness that I just I just didn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel as a woman too, I feel really
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  Speaker 3: conflicted about that statement because if you do want to
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  Speaker 3: break it down, I think that it is. It's the definition.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Andy handled it really well, because again,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that anyone ever, Danny and me included,
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  Speaker 3: tried to take the pain and the hurt and the
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  Speaker 3: wrongness away from Jasmine. I do think that it got
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  Speaker 3: out of hand with who was fighting the back all
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  Speaker 3: for her. She admitted that too. She was like, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't I asked you, guys, my fiance asked you to
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  Speaker 3: stop talking about it. And I think that I yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just felt I felt really uncomfortable because if if
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  Speaker 3: you want to get down to the technicalities, yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: did something without her consent, for sure, Yes, yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: and Andy did a really good job of saying, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if you were to bring this to court, what would
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  Speaker 3: they call it? Like you said, and I just don't
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  Speaker 3: think that we talked about it last week. The apology
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  Speaker 3: and the expectations was wrong. You know, he apologized. He
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  Speaker 3: really should have left it in her hands instead of saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's all fine, because I apologized. But I still think
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  Speaker 3: that it was not Janet's place to continue on, especially
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  Speaker 3: if at one point during filming that we saw and
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  Speaker 3: even on the reunion Jenna and Jasmine we're not in
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent bff place, right, So she really just
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  Speaker 3: used it against Danny. He did it, So there's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what would you have done?
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  Speaker 2: What would you.
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  Speaker 3: Have have listened and given advice to? Like I think
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  Speaker 3: I just would have had to say, yes, yes, they
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  Speaker 3: did it, and just what sit there quietly? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Nia is is hot about this issue.
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  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the reason why I agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: Lizzy when you talk about the fact that it did
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  Speaker 1: appear that Janet wanted to get a rise out of
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  Speaker 1: Nia and Danny. And it's again based on what we're
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  Speaker 1: learning now in the world in our industry in terms
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  Speaker 1: of you know, the dudes and the don'ts that always
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  Speaker 1: peer to be a little not always, but in some
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  Speaker 1: cases appear.
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  Speaker 2: To be gray.
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  Speaker 1: You are right that look for sure, it's Jasmine's story
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  Speaker 1: to tell, and if the person who was on the
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  Speaker 1: receiving end of the inappropriate touching is saying to you
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  Speaker 1: leave it alone. That doesn't give you the right of
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  Speaker 1: the clearance to continue the story because at that point
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of like, what is your attention there, Like
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  Speaker 1: is your attention to be a supportive friend? If your
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  Speaker 1: friend is saying to you, drop it, I don't wanna
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  Speaker 1: talk about anymore, and you countinue talking about it. It
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  Speaker 1: does question the intention that Jannon had from the get
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  Speaker 1: go when it came to this.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Jasmine called her Karen too, So I think
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  Speaker 2: for me it just did I look good for Janet
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  Speaker 2: at all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And in Jason defending her, of course he's not
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  Speaker 3: not going to defend her. That's his wife. Yes, And
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  Speaker 3: that's what we look for in a housewife reunion. You know,
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  Speaker 3: whenever they sit behind them, we're like, that's right, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hank the horn on them, Greg yea.
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  Speaker 2: Rest.
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  Speaker 3: But it just you know, everyone's like, were you watching
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  Speaker 3: the same show as us? You know, you can have
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  Speaker 3: someone's back, but not say, well, Janet was escape the
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  Speaker 3: whole season. You know, you guys went after her. Just
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  Speaker 3: just have her back if something comes at you. Don't
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  Speaker 3: bring that up, because that did look kind of silly
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  Speaker 3: and and Janet. She looked uncomfortable, kind of you know.
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  Speaker 3: She she definitely was the one that teared up the most.
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  Speaker 3: I think because I'm sure that that was a tough
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  Speaker 3: reunion for her to go to. She looked very beautiful
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  Speaker 3: to me. I'm reunion for her to go to just
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  Speaker 3: be because the end of the season, I mean, she
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  Speaker 3: had to leave Hawaii like no one liked her except
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  Speaker 3: for Michelle, and you know, Michelle's on the end of
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  Speaker 3: the couch.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into Michelle, because you know what they've tried
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  Speaker 1: to sort of like compare things to was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you said that Michelle was a whore, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I never said.
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  Speaker 2: She was a or okay, I said that she on
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  Speaker 2: her she slept with me forbuddy.
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  Speaker 3: He heard that in the group text that Jesse wrote
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  Speaker 3: that he was just doing his job and saying it
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  Speaker 3: on camera. I thought that that was a low, a
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  Speaker 3: very very low thing to pull out and be like, please,
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  Speaker 3: I'm handing you this on a platter. Please say you
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  Speaker 3: know that he called her a whore. I think that
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  Speaker 3: that that didn't It's plenty of other things you can
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  Speaker 3: be mad at about. He literally read a text message.
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  Speaker 3: He's the one that let it out of the group chat.
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  Speaker 3: That's all he was doing was repeat what her husband
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  Speaker 3: on paper said.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, let's get to Jack.
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  Speaker 1: So, as we're watching Jack's final reunion as we now
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  Speaker 1: know it to be based on him quitting the show
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  Speaker 1: and walking away from it, Okay, I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure I say that on the record. Based on that,
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  Speaker 1: we are now seeing that in this reunion there are
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  Speaker 1: conversations again just about his behavior, whether or not he's
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  Speaker 1: able to, you know, survive this life without.
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  Speaker 2: Drinking.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing that I thought was so interesting and
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  Speaker 1: made me laugh because I'm like, okay, can I can
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  Speaker 1: I laugh? Finally, was when they kept playing the flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: of Jack saying it's my show, it's my show, it's
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  Speaker 1: my show, and if you guys are mean to me.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting fired.
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  Speaker 1: And how Andy's like, show up hands if Jack's ever
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  Speaker 1: said this was his show, and everybody raise their head.
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  Speaker 1: That to me was so funny, but well I thought
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  Speaker 1: was fascinating was the parallel that Andy mentioned where he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you said that on a previous show that you were
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  Speaker 1: fired from, and now you're saying it again and things
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  Speaker 1: aren't looking too good for.
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  Speaker 2: You it's like the kiss of death.
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  Speaker 1: But I, Lizzy, is what I tell all reality stars
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  Speaker 1: the moment you say I'm the star or is my show?
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's the kiss of death.
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  Speaker 3: He he just really cannot catch a break with that,
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  Speaker 3: and he if you if there was any question that
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't a narcissist, the flashback and this conversation proved it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he does take credit for takes credit for
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  Speaker 3: so many things. He blasted all over social media, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he was a hot topic and star of Bander
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  Speaker 3: Pump Rules for a while and then he was it
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  Speaker 3: And the same thing. I'm glad that Brittany said said
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  Speaker 3: you were gone for thirty days and no one missed you.
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  Speaker 2: We are Dad, honey dag.
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  Speaker 3: Because we've all said it the internet, everyone who said it.
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  Speaker 3: But I also didn't believe him claiming that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: watch the show. I don't believe that for two seconds.
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  Speaker 3: For someone that has a burner account that goes in
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  Speaker 3: types with his two thumbs, hear, that's how great he is.
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  Speaker 3: He said something about like, how could you not love
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  Speaker 3: this guy?
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  Speaker 2: What kind of them shoves?
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  Speaker 3: So you don't watch the show, but you're gonna go
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  Speaker 3: defend all of your actions on the Internet with a
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  Speaker 3: fake account.
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  Speaker 2: Boy boy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Thought that was so funny because I'm like, well, shit, Lizzy,
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  Speaker 1: do I need to create a figure cowt go on
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  Speaker 1: Spotify leave a five star review, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: rain Drops leave a five star review of the podcast
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  Speaker 1: out Let's get the Kick and a vice com You
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  Speaker 1: have to be a narcissist to create a fake account,
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  Speaker 1: okay and lead positive comments. And then he's like, I
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  Speaker 1: haven't used it in a while. Lies, lies and more lies.
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  Speaker 1: But so the day was Frank right, and and.
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  Speaker 3: He kept calling him Frank Drummond, and he was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's Frank. Do something it was from from a movie
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  Speaker 3: or something goes.
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  Speaker 2: From a movie?
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  Speaker 3: Drummond, Yeah, Drummond, Drummond, what drummon?
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: How silly are you to think that one account could
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  Speaker 3: could raise the public's view of you? Baby, You need
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  Speaker 3: to go in there. You need to create a thousand
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  Speaker 3: of them. Frank Drummond bought Drummond druman dram boom damam
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  Speaker 3: create them all. The fact that.
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  Speaker 2: He's got.
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  Speaker 3: Please get a team. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What was so interesting too, is this, Obviously we know
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  Speaker 2: that when.
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  Speaker 1: It came to Jack's We're never going to deny that
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  Speaker 1: he was good television at one point.
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  Speaker 2: I think the problem, though, is he drank the kool aid.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what happens when it comes to these reality
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  Speaker 1: stars who are look force multipliers, polarizing to watch. You're
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  Speaker 1: definitely somebody we're intrigued with. But the notion that this
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  Speaker 1: show is yours and you can fire people if they're
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  Speaker 1: not nice to you. But the flashback that gagged me
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because I do remember this, the fact that this motherfucker
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: told Lisa Vanda Pump to her face the show is
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: called vand Pump Rules, the setting of the show is
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: at her restaurants plural.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You're telling this woman this is my show.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And let's be clear, Lisa vand the Pump rightfully so
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: also has a healthy ego.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure she was like, oh, it's happ You.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Have lost your damn mind to keep it to even
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: think that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: How quickly she got back in his face and his
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: reaction really was gold, you know, of like a quick
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: like okay, okay, okay, okay, all back down type thing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But I mean that was that was That was great
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: watching two of two people who think very highly of themselves.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: M h talk about whose show it is that that
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: was great. I mean again, that's why we watch these shows.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Like you said, it's we're not we're not taking anything
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: from him that he is great television. I mean now
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: it's now it's just gotten out of hand and healthy
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: because his behavior is just so terrible as a human.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, at one point it was great
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and that's why we watched it. And he just never
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: really grew up.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: No, he never grew up.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And it's sad because this man, and I keep saying
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: this over and over, it's rare in reality television to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: have a second chance. It's just it's it's it's rare.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he was given one and this
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: is what he did with it is awful. And but listen,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it's the he has to lie the bit he made
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and that's just that's just where things are with it,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: similarly to sort of like where things seem to be
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the relationship with the cast, because
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, listen, I thought the seats was great. A
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: lot of people said it was dark. I think, look,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you can't control the reality of what people are going
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: through in their lives. But for me, do you think
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: with the remark of Jacks, is there anybody else that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: needs to be removed to make this show better?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Better?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: That is a strong word. I really really enjoy the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Valley I despite how dark it got, like you said,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I think I think it was wonderful. I was excited
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: every Tuesday to watch it. So a removal, honestly, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and I mean you create them and run them. We've
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: worked behind the scenes of a lot of shows, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it is tough to play that family tree of connections
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: when there is a breakup, you know. So I'm interested
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: in where it goes with Jesse and Michelle. I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: that because we were invested in the dysfunction and just
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the not great relationship that they had the first season,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: it was it was good to see them both on
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: season two. I don't know where it goes for removal.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I actually feel like we learned a lot more about
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Zach this season. I liked it. I appreciated it, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I think that they all are really hard workers. They
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: want we talked about this last week. Oh yeah, we
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: like to spill the tea. They like to out each other.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I would not be shocked. This is just my opinion.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I know nothing. I would not be shocked if Danny
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and Nia left, but only if there's terrible backlash after
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: this today, you know, after the final reunion Neghbors. So
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I think she enjoys it and likes it. But I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: think now we understand that there are stakes. There are
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You're we're gonna have to come to your house, We're
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: probably gonna get into your marriage. And like now, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: have four children. We know we don't really see the
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: kids at time. It's not a kid's show, but that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: where they are in their reality. And if he is
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: going on at nights, who is helping, you know, feed
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: these kids? Yeah, that's us. But I don't know. But
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you know what I did do, Carlos, I did. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: took one for the team and I listened to Sheena
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Chay's book, Uh Coma.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Live There, What's going on?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Girl?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. She she told a lot of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: stories that I either had only heard part of or
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: some that I didn't know at all. And that was
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: great because I am a fan of vander Pump. Yes,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: she did mention that her husband current husband brought cheated
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: on her while she was pregnant with their daughter. Summer Moon,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: So this was not terribly long ago, and before everything
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: with scandall happened. She mentioned spoiler alert rain drops that
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it happened, and she didn't know about it. When it happened,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: she was pregnant. And then when all of this stuff
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: started coming out about Sandoval and Arianna that Brock did
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: sit her down and tell her that, hey, I just
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: want you to be aware of this in case anything
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: comes out. I've seen how hard all of this, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: infidelity has hit you with your best friend, that I
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: was unfaithful to you while you were pregnant. He told
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: her everything because he was there were rumors, I don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: know if you remember, there was talks that maybe he
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: had hooked up with Raquel now yeah, and they denied it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But because there were accusations being thrown out about that,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: he just went ahead and came to her and she
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: did not. And this was before filming of the most
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: recent season of vander Punk. So she kept this to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: herself because, in her words, she didn't want to steal
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: any of Ariana's shine, shine being the wrong word because
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: she got cheated on, but she didn't want to act
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: insincere and drop this, you know, negative information. So she is,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: she has a small child, she is trying to navigate
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: filming the show. Her heart has now been broken. She's
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: trying to figure things out, and she just kept that
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: to herself. She released it in the book, which came
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: out last month. And I think that this opens up
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: a whole new story for her and Broke to tell
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: if they were to become full time cast members on
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: The Valley next season. Gives us a lot more to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: talk about.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'm here for I actually, yeah, because listen, that's that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that's juicy.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And for me, listen, the beauty of a Valley is
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I will always consider this show to spin off of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Bad the Pump Rules. So what words is the fact
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that the majority of the cast comes from that world
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and to be able to, you know, follow the story.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: That is interesting. So Sheena and they're together.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: They are the guy yep, yeah, they chose to stay together.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: He made a really kind statement on Instagram and he
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: basically said, you know how much he loves her, how
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: sorry that he is. He was not angry or didn't
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: want her to not put this in her book because
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: this is her story to tell. And yeah, and he's
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: proud of her, and he'll work every day to you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: keep the new trust going. And I think that that's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: something that that they will have to work on every day.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And I think that it's also something that they might
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: want to work on in front of the cameras.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm here for it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we'll see her.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: We need a new splash of story.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I also agree with you, listen, I think everybody should
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: stay with some new people coming in.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I think may the best person win in this case.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I like a co ed show.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it represents the world we
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: live in where it's not the world isn't so isolated
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: where it's like married women only hang out with their
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: girlfriends every day. I love the fact that the men
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: are there at their present. They get to speak up
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for their wives or behalf of their wives, and on
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: behalf of their male friendship. Jacks is great television. The show,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to me, can't survive without him. I am curious to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: see where Jesse and Michell are going to take things.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think Jesse is somebody next season that's gonna surprise
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: us and sort of be like the leading male, because
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think he learned from his buildin era that Okay,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I did it, you know, iconic whatever.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But I see him being more.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Of a leader when to come to the guys and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: getting them together and being more like a big grow
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But also think Jessic k Help was sub being mess sive,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: which I love, and I think he'll still sprinkle some mess.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's like Peter Thomas, you know, like yeah, yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And I think that I saw him kind of ride
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: for Danny, you know, which which I thought was interesting.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: He said, Danny doesn't have a drinking problem. He's and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: then he's just he's playing he's playing the old jacks.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: He knows who to bring together. You're right, he's gonna
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: take on the king be okay. And yeah, And also
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: there were a few other little, small, quick telling things
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that I think people are trying to keep their spots.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Janet and Zach just couldn't not stand each other right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: and her husband Jason rode for her so hard against
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: everyone else. Did you notice that if the end of
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the episode, he kind of jumped in. Zach was on
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: one side, Jane was on another, and he said, well,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: hold on, Janet, are you are you listening to what
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: he's saying it sounds like it's oh, no, he did
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it too, did it to Jack's Jack's I'm sorry, I
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: spoke Jack and Zach. He said, it sounds like Jack
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: is trying to extend an olive branch, and it's like, gosh,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you hated him.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: For your wife.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I'll see it. So they understand the assignment. Towards the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: end of the night, they're tired, probably there for nine hours,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and there's got to be some sort of reconciliation, right, like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: how do we at least close the day which put
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the stamp on the season. And I think that was interesting.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I agree with you about Jesse. I think that he
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: can absolutely film with Michelle. I think he's gonna like to,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you know, stir her up a little.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And then I like the fact that he met with
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the boyfriend and yes.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah. And Andy also I felt like it was
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: a bit of a statement. Uh Andy mentioned that Jesse's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: girlfriend showed up at the end of a party that
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: they were filming an all cast and then he said, look,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: you're on a TV show regardless if she wants her
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: privacy respected, I want to put a mic on her
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and I want to see what's going on. And that
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: was a little bit of like, hey, dude, if you
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: would like to continue next season, you bring whoever you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: dating on. And I thought that that was I think
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I thought that that was him subtly telling him what
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: needs to happen to move forward.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Can be shady a little bit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: If I was Jesse, I would say, did Jenna Alliance
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: have to do it? And then I should?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I think about that far more often than.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: The tricky part.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say, you saw Smia's husband
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one time in a twenty episode order.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm telling you. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: These people are watching I That's the thing. When Jenna Alliance.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Says she had a fucking fiance, not not just some
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: random you know, hit and quit it a fiance mm
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: hmm that we were not allowed to see.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Oh her entire cats was upset about that too. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: well yeah, you let me know if they come back
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and we see them again. Oh, I'm not well, I've
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: seen that. It's I haven't seen them on my TV. Fance.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see them on my TV. I'm
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: just sag liszy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I mean shit, I just don't care to see them
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: again on my Telementaron Screen Lovely ladies, amazing, accomplished women,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: gorgeous and so now TV personalities of an ensemble.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: No, thank you, just not and it's okay.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I've done shows where I'm like, all right, mister Mark, there't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Won't talk about that show.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: A revoote is tricky, a cast casting is tricky. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: don't think people realize how much goes into that. You
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: cannot just pluck someone, even if they were had ten
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: tons of drama coming with them. It doesn't work like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: It's tough, and especially when you've got you know, people
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: who stand Tinto's down on the old housewise.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Hello, that's me, Hi, I'm your neighbor. It's they had
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: fun though, but.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Look, based on the episode I did watch last scene
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: that I don't think so, but I will.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Circle back and be positive. Who we do like is
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the valley and there that way that was That was
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: the excellent season. I'm glad, Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: we watched it. I loved when we got pops of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: La La or Shena. I love we got to see
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Lalla's baby. I personally I called you. I thought that
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: that was a statement too. I thought that was very
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: interesting that the baby appeared on the show that she
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: wasn't even a cast member on. So who knows what's
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: in store? I mean, I would hope that they're filming
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: at least sometime soon so we can get it in
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. But I enjoyed it. I've enjoyed everyone
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: that we've met on the cast that has come on
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Reality with King and they all.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Huge Jasmin and Jesse for stepping into reality, but the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: key you guys were great guests.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy for Kristen and and Nia for having
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: their their healthy babies, and I'm excited to see where
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: they go. In the meantime. I guess we'll follow Frank DuMond.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: We can keep up with We can keep up with
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Jacks that way.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Listen, is that so active?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I know he say he's for eBay or something, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I need to know if it's active.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Jack to do that shit. It was like,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: get out of here.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: When they showed the unseen footage of them talking about
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Brittany's Jenny Craig bag that he was trying to sell
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: on eBay, I.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Was like, I love this show.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Though again great season, the Valley Cat and crew wonderful job.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sad to see y'all go, but I'm happy to
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: know that you guys will be filming again and Lizzy
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and I will be back to discuss this all again
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: next season.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: So thank you Lizzy for taking time out to recap
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: with me.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you, it was fun.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore