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Tom Boyd - World Cup Special! · Not Another Football Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thanks to Tailor Snacks for keeping us fuel during the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's a magnify Thanks Tailors. Hi, guys, welcome to a
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  Speaker 1: Long Cup special of Not Another Football Podcast with myself,
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  Speaker 1: Simon don.
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  Speaker 2: Late and Jackie Mary Marra.
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  Speaker 3: I'm We're delighted to say our next guest earld skip up,
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  Speaker 3: Tom BOYD.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great, Yes, I will get it ready for the
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  Speaker 2: World Cup. Yeah. I had a golf game on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: a cycle charity cycle yesterday and all the cityday and
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  Speaker 2: I'm with yourselves.
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  Speaker 4: I believe you're going to the first I'm going yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going on publicly, ask of friendly can get in
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  Speaker 2: an affordable ticket for me. But as.
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  Speaker 4: My boy just to t no plan to stay on
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  Speaker 4: for the No, No, I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: Some with you and MICHAELA forgot about that looks so
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing that as well. I've been playing that one
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  Speaker 2: as well. Went the window head over head over tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow as they start. That's me. So yeah, I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh good.
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  Speaker 3: So take you back then, obviously to the year that
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  Speaker 3: we were in the world couple selves thinking of all
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  Speaker 3: that you are ninety two ninety six euros. This was
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  Speaker 3: your first World Cup. What do you remember that the
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  Speaker 3: qualifying campaign leading up.
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  Speaker 2: To I remember well, games. It was the games. The
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  Speaker 2: main teams were Austria, Austria, Sweden, myselves, I think maybe
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  Speaker 2: the three top teams Mona. They were there soul. In
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  Speaker 2: terms of the qualification games, generally we could defend. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't get too many goals away, but we were
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  Speaker 2: won the prolific goalscorers and any kind of game. I
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  Speaker 2: think I've had that problem for a number of years,
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  Speaker 2: all the games we've been playing in the qualifications we've had.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a group we thought we could
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  Speaker 2: qualify from. It turns out I think we got the
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  Speaker 2: best second placed, running up behind Austria Sweden with the
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  Speaker 2: King of King Senate Larson. I think we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Jackie that game up qualification game.
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  Speaker 2: They were decent as well. So it was a good
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  Speaker 2: group to qualify from and we qualified. I think we
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  Speaker 2: look back in it. We qualified from that game we
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  Speaker 2: drew with Estonia and the game it never was we
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  Speaker 2: went to Monaco and drew. Now now, but that game
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  Speaker 2: didn't count because Estonia found this bottom so I think
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  Speaker 2: it was the top three or four teams the results
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  Speaker 2: that counted the bottom team and so we got into
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  Speaker 2: the best setting place.
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  Speaker 4: Did we played the Stone Tincastle?
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  Speaker 2: Was that that? No? No, that was after I think
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  Speaker 2: I was the homework tie that would have been for
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  Speaker 2: it after noting Downcastle.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Three two because at that time Hampden must have been
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  Speaker 3: getting done up because you were talking about student Eyebrooks.
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  Speaker 3: And but the game that got us through against Latvia
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  Speaker 3: we played the.
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  Speaker 4: Celtic Park.
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  Speaker 2: My fiftieth carp was that game which you normally get
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  Speaker 2: the captaincy for Colin Henry was the team, but it
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  Speaker 2: was kept for the next game because of the importance
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  Speaker 2: of that game. And so Colin Henry was SI and
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  Speaker 2: I was it called? Was a guy mcarnisor that's a
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  Speaker 2: good question. But whoever it was that Kig Brown wanted
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  Speaker 2: to continue come up and you explained that to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't have a problem with that, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's you know what you keep within.
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  Speaker 2: There's as much as you can do. I get the
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  Speaker 2: captain seeing the fifty first cap against France in France
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  Speaker 2: lost to was it and is it. Dan gave it
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  Speaker 2: a good slagging. We're playing anti football, which is what
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  Speaker 2: we were good at.
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  Speaker 1: Major debut was at the Eyebrooks games up you're saying
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  Speaker 1: against At my first start, I came on lat Via
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  Speaker 1: game away which we won, and then I was mighty
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  Speaker 1: start the story a game, but it took send. I
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  Speaker 1: never turned off. How's your luck getting first start for
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  Speaker 1: Scotland and team? Doesn't it turn up? But then I
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  Speaker 1: started the Eyebrooks against Sweden which we won one now.
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  Speaker 2: Very luckily, but the batter just want to We won one.
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  Speaker 1: No, the batter dos gym laate and was outstanding. Unbelieving
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  Speaker 1: that a game henk you playing, Henrick, play it played.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to see. He must have the chances, but.
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  Speaker 4: It would be very unlikely if you would.
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  Speaker 2: They played exception well and they did. There was a
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  Speaker 2: good going over, but thankfully we got a goal. Darren
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  Speaker 2: was it Daran squad? John? Sorry that was John? I
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  Speaker 2: think we had in the past and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if Darren. Then somebody dominated through them and left it
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  Speaker 2: and my Diny went right through and then that was.
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  Speaker 3: So the campaign must have been over a right period
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  Speaker 3: of time because I like Sir John mcginny when it
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  Speaker 3: got to the finals, I don't think he was quoted
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  Speaker 3: to go. And myself coming in latterly, I think I
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  Speaker 3: played a bit of the well, the stony.
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  Speaker 2: Impacted it for us stocking to ten that season, I
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  Speaker 2: think mistake was noticed was good.
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  Speaker 4: I think I only I came off the bench in
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  Speaker 4: two of those games.
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  Speaker 3: But I think looking at this campaign, it was like
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  Speaker 3: over a couple of months wasn't really for the current team,
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  Speaker 3: but back then it was maybe over a a season
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  Speaker 3: and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I think they've got so many clubs either the Nations
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  Speaker 2: League as well.
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  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, so many games.
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  Speaker 2: There's quite a few signs that they have and you
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  Speaker 2: can see why guys are now getting the number of
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  Speaker 2: caps wrapped up and those kind of competitions and looking
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  Speaker 2: the games and it's easily done that you wrap up
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  Speaker 2: fifty very very quickly. So yeah, it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: different situation at a different time, but you've still got
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  Speaker 2: to do it. And what of the year era, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: they're in, you know, and and thankfully we've done it.
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  Speaker 3: And and that kind of run just alongsiders getting the
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  Speaker 3: league title then and Dan Jackson on one of the
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  Speaker 3: earlier World Cup editions, and we're just talking about coming
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  Speaker 3: back through Portugal that time and everybody getting their notifications
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  Speaker 3: on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember it coming through security? I remember the
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  Speaker 1: phone that time, so everybody is getting.
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  Speaker 2: That Okay, I'm older right, okay.
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  Speaker 4: But then obviously there was eight of us went to
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  Speaker 4: the finals, which.
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  Speaker 2: Have Marlins with the Celtic team because we've done that
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  Speaker 2: season and a lot of Scottish boys that were in
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  Speaker 2: the Celtic team so I now playing well, they help
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  Speaker 2: us win the league. So yeah, it was over rewarded
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  Speaker 2: in terms of Celtic getting to the finals with the
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  Speaker 2: number of players yourself included.
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  Speaker 4: You know we went to the US get drafted as well. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: for the warm up games against Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The big top point B that was obviously the goalkeeper
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  Speaker 2: situation at the time was going to be gym Late
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  Speaker 2: or Andy Golam he'd come back in but and then
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  Speaker 2: we found it and he found out it was Gym
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  Speaker 2: so which Jim done well throughout the competition, so no
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  Speaker 2: problems there.
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  Speaker 4: So Gildy found his wing as guilding as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's the number eight of the Celtic squad was it
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  Speaker 2: was it Big Sullivan, Big Sally other people. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: which our memories and up obviously were talking about being
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  Speaker 2: down in the south something rely yeah, performance, it was fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Could tell we were in. Yeah, we flew up the
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  Speaker 4: night before the game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my recollection was being obviously, which I see John
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  Speaker 2: Collins for the people watching, and I was glad you
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  Speaker 2: went too many monicles because I was one of the
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  Speaker 2: guys at room when itself. Yeah, and we were doing
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  Speaker 2: a thousand settlers before breakfast. You know, I think John's
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  Speaker 2: still doing a thousand settles before breakfast. So it was
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  Speaker 2: I went there and I was fair for a thirty
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  Speaker 2: two year old being in the company of John. So
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  Speaker 2: but you did that. There's a lot of board them,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the thing you take from somebody side. There's
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  Speaker 2: ex excitement, Yeah, there's nervousness, there's excitement, but there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of board on. They're trying to find young footboaties,
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  Speaker 2: trying to entertain them and keep them busy, and that's
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  Speaker 2: that's an art of trying to do that. Think Craig
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  Speaker 2: was bringing people on to see and speak to his often,
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  Speaker 2: so ye remember that that's that's always a case for
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  Speaker 2: everybody every team as it's just trying to find things
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  Speaker 2: to do that are acceptable to the management.
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  Speaker 4: The other night out in between the games.
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  Speaker 2: I never had a night drink before they come, for example. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: of course that's why I became captain.
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  Speaker 3: So we get to the first game, which when I
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  Speaker 3: look back now, the enormity of it, I mean billions
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  Speaker 3: across the world watching us coming out in the kelps
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  Speaker 3: Well kept seeing. Yeah, for me, that's I never got
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  Speaker 3: to play. That was the highlight for me walking in
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  Speaker 3: in the reception of Tartan Army, seeing your family help.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was stunning. It wasn't your family who drived
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  Speaker 2: early and yeah, a fantastic experience and then went Down't
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  Speaker 2: hell will be but after about the game and you
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  Speaker 2: know that whatever and the excitement and I know there
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  Speaker 2: was a pre match show and all that kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I think there was hell in safety issues because
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  Speaker 2: I was a parachute. Also, we couldn't have players. So
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  Speaker 2: once we went and done, you know, the kilt and
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  Speaker 2: going to do with families and the fans and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing, we took it back outo the
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  Speaker 2: dressing room and that was us for what we were.
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  Speaker 2: They have a but two hours.
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  Speaker 4: You know it was a small remember we get a small.
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  Speaker 2: There was only be out. Yeah, it was thirty forty
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  Speaker 2: yards or some of that square room or some and
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  Speaker 2: that's what we had, the woman and we could not
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  Speaker 2: go out to watch anything, which that atmosphere you help,
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  Speaker 2: you wanted so well. You remember things like that, and
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  Speaker 2: you remember just before kickoffs and you remember your last
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  Speaker 2: what did you do in your train and stuff that so,
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  Speaker 2: and then coming out once you're starting in a line up,
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  Speaker 2: coming out and you've got the French national anthem with
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  Speaker 2: the Scottish national anthem, get rezillion nationals. I'm sure there
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  Speaker 2: was another song for it was. There was tons of
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  Speaker 2: them as well. Before you started the game. You just
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  Speaker 2: this year that you've been the team and it's squad.
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  Speaker 2: You want to get out if you get your warm up,
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  Speaker 2: but getting and then get get out and I've got
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  Speaker 2: to waiting all these things.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think we missed out and I'll be
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  Speaker 4: back there as well.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right because normally you're out there warming up.
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  Speaker 3: I actually watched the Champions League the other week, really
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  Speaker 3: have they had the warm up and then they had
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  Speaker 3: there was the killers on it and they've covered the whole.
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  Speaker 2: It's when the atmosphere starts to really build. We had
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  Speaker 2: in there two hours before when we see the family
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  Speaker 2: and all that connecting, and it wasn't ful. There was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people there, but it was it wasn't true.
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  Speaker 2: So you miss You'll get that in the warm up
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  Speaker 2: and you can see it starringly climbing and usually was
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  Speaker 2: it about fifteen minutes before the start of the game.
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  Speaker 2: You've got into the dress room just final lies what
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  Speaker 2: things you need to do, and and so you've you've
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  Speaker 2: got that process of building up and getting used to
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  Speaker 2: what Amossure is going to build, and it certainly hits
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  Speaker 2: you when you come out.
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  Speaker 4: In the dressing probably the tunnel.
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  Speaker 2: Before the tunnel, I was obviously call Henry. And the
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  Speaker 2: best thing about the there's two things that we've done
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen it in the video was calling and
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  Speaker 2: I used to like getting away about smelling salt something
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  Speaker 2: my nose, just to get you, you know, call hen
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  Speaker 2: you sorry. Concorder when he took that show on and
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  Speaker 2: we're coming out the video and stadiums out there or
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  Speaker 2: the tunnels out and he's come on boys, and he's
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  Speaker 2: aware and then there was talking calling hen he tells
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  Speaker 2: you the story. If you get the moaning, you'll tell
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  Speaker 2: it better. The main So I was welling some other
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  Speaker 2: night there and was talking about coming out into the
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  Speaker 2: tunnel and three Brown's just standing there and calling you
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  Speaker 2: are right, however, shot, I have a little cross chair.
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  Speaker 2: So he's letting all these brid stars get now, and
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  Speaker 2: they're all hard creepy.
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  Speaker 5: I was shutting themselves anything. These us is the World
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  Speaker 5: Cup holders. They're playing Scotland, who hadn't been for a
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  Speaker 5: couple of two cold the gage, so you think they
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: were going to be fitting themselves against us. But anyway,
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  Speaker 5: pleased the week with when they got the team sheets.
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  Speaker 1: Remember yeah, you thought Olsen was going to start and
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  Speaker 1: it was the battle that's right, and he's like the
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  Speaker 1: battles past it, remember, but turned to dv Really, he's
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  Speaker 1: like to Davy, really, she's past. It's kind of get
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  Speaker 1: a club bess. In fact, he's been trying to get
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  Speaker 1: at hearts.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's something that Craig would do. He would
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  Speaker 2: try and bring the opposition down so that you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be Remember there was a wee guy you could
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  Speaker 2: fit and underneath that sort of table you know me
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  Speaker 2: he could fit under this. So he did try to
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  Speaker 2: bring up position and lift spirits a week Backstand that,
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  Speaker 2: you know that his management was trying to give something
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence because.
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  Speaker 4: The books for the Silver the first time.
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  Speaker 3: Normally books were black and the day I know now
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  Speaker 3: we had the wonderful colors, but it was the silver books.
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  Speaker 3: Just staring at these guys in the mykill at Brazil attire.
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  Speaker 2: Something on the ship as well, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 2: Look there's another date of the office for them exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You notice how I'm I'm body sweaving in it when
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  Speaker 2: you're starting the game. You again, what is your right?
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  Speaker 3: So I think they do all right in the game,
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  Speaker 3: considering yeah, well, considering the quality on the opposition of
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  Speaker 3: bought position.
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  Speaker 2: In that game, the opening game, and I know that
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  Speaker 2: we've seen some shocks before and maybe for all the
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: old team would have went out and underestimated us anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But as I says before, when we were good at defending,
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  Speaker 2: we could defend as a team. I'm not just a defender.
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  Speaker 2: Was the three that the Batmans me calling, Henry and Concorderwood.
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't that it was just them, It was
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  Speaker 2: everybody in the midfield and the forward when we could
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  Speaker 2: get back and and stifful teams and did that very well.
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  Speaker 2: And on the occasion when we get forward and we
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  Speaker 2: got the penalty from that. So we did give ourselves
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  Speaker 2: a very pill.
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  Speaker 4: Threatened good play. They score for a set piece.
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  Speaker 2: Set piece, he's centering about a small center back. We
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  Speaker 2: come up with front post aia which we proud ourselves
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  Speaker 2: took pride in and not conceding goals. We set pieces
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  Speaker 2: a lot, you know, So that was that was a
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  Speaker 2: problem for us. And you think, well, this six state
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  Speaker 2: minutes or something that was that they scored. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: you could hear the worst. You could hear the worst
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  Speaker 2: against the world champion of everybody watching exactly in the
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  Speaker 2: sense of occasion. But we got together and we limited them.
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  Speaker 2: Having a couple of efforts at goal. I do remember
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  Speaker 2: Ronaldo one time dropping the shoulder and he doumbed both
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  Speaker 2: myself and calling Henry at the same time. Just the
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: pace of the guy, you know what I mean. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: thought I was quick and then you just come and
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  Speaker 2: just shifted away level and that's what you see the
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  Speaker 2: top players and you want to play against him. For us,
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  Speaker 2: as me as a defender, and yeah, you know you
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  Speaker 2: want that joy of you never scored and the again
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  Speaker 2: I had to help him out, you know what I mean,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: just to make sure he was okay. So, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: want to play against the best person that world just
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  Speaker 2: out there, and certainly they had a few better than
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  Speaker 2: that category and that that team, so talkings to it.
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  Speaker 4: Just straight straight you mentioned so obviously we get ourselves
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: back in the game.
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  Speaker 3: And then I've watched it back over the years and
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  Speaker 3: I've done stuff it Celtic with you, and I've been
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  Speaker 3: in the company of you know, you getting your leg
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  Speaker 3: pulled about it.
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  Speaker 4: But when you watch your back, it is there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: that she can do. There's so much she can do.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Boice, Thanks Scratch.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that's nobody.
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  Speaker 2: You must have been gotten dar.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much she can do. And when jacko anyway,
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  Speaker 4: when you look back and will give us your no, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not there is. I hadn't looked at it for twenty
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  Speaker 2: odd years and in my memory I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: a cross and James come out, it's dropped and I've
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  Speaker 2: been too close, but I probably was a weaver. But
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: then I've seen it and I forced myself to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you hate watching goals? It's noting the games of
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup that's watched the billions, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. So I looked back in it and then
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I seen I think cafew got the better of and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Gordon Jury. I think its Gordon Jerry and he got
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: well Gordon, wasn't it defenders who played? I think you
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  Speaker 2: found yourself in out wide the area and he's run
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  Speaker 2: in and I remember marking the real Ronaldo edge of
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  Speaker 2: the box and getting the arm across so as you
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  Speaker 2: would do if he doesn't get across the front of you.
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  Speaker 2: And it went in an area where I saw it was.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's cut back because I couldn't get to
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  Speaker 2: Cafe and he was going to get a shot on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and so he's had the shot. And as I went
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: into this area and knowly from behind the goals you
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see this as it's company happening, and it's in this
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: area here, I was worried about own hand. Yeah, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: so as I've pulled back my hand a little bit,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it sticks your chest to it. So I'm thinking, well,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: why did I know con try to control it down
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: with the chests, which you could do. And I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm worried about handboat. And look back at
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it and you'll see from behind the goals and you'll
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: see that at different angle, or I might be talking
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: a little nonsense. You know, I'm mighty good. Your sounds
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: isn't convincing you, And I think that's why it's come
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: off at a fair piece, a fair rate or not.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I've just spent like that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's just pull back of you bit. So it wasn't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: hurting my hand and that just went into the box
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and column hands. He had some fine Linford Christy pieces
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: on that getting Colin. Wasn't he getting there?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It was never getting So you look at the two
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: goals or the set play and that one and I
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: was scrappy, lucky gopher Brasilt. It maybe just highlights how
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: well we're done for the ninety minutes against that team
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: where an over and Aldo felt ill later on, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: it was the peaky his pidals.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because he could against Scotland, and that's why
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I was saying it was a nice guy and I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: felt for him and I thought, no, I'll put that
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: on the back of the I did see in sky
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the other day, and I was talking that see as
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I think Brazil looked after him when they took doing
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Christ of the Demon and put Tom the Savior and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the big crosses up there, you know. But yeah, it
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: was shoes are disappointing for me. And the outcome of
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: whether they asked you what jersey did you do at
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the end of it, And so I was bothered by
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that at the time. And then somebody says, right, we'll
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: get the jersey. But the time some of the back
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: him stuff want to jerseys, nerving the players. Yeah, so
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: said put it and put it in my bag, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I'll just looking at the back and I think when
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I went back to the tail or someone I think
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: somebo did swap my jersey for a training jersey, a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Brazilian training.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Jersey or so he didn't get a jersey.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't get a jersey. Yeah, there you go. So
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't bother. I'd rather give a jersey away,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a scout and jersey. I know some people wanted Ronaldo,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: but I couldn't get them to him quick enough. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe Jacket was there, Martin Martin for he
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: got better.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Spilt documented story. So we go into Norway. The second
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: game we were in we.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Played, we played better in terms of more attacking and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that that play we did lose the first school with
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Vida risis. It was a set piece that was it
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: was a set piece I think for a cross and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Vida got into the box.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: And before he came on it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, the following year we signed him follow ye and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and I think what you remember most of that was
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: budly celebration, Greig's celebration because Craig always is an issue
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: of playing at the right wing back. At the time
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: he thought he was a center, which it was. It
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was a central midfielder. But we had fantastic competition in
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that area. So that's why at times that we shoved
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: at there and they hated it. And you see the celebracing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It runs to the touch line and that's for Craig
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to get well, we'll see that he was he was
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: meaning So so we did well in that game. We
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: should have win, I felt on the level of performance.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Didn't but and then and saying that we've given myself
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: still a chance being into the last game, thinking right,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we just need to beat Moroccle.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: That was a bit of said so that we.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Knew what when we knew what will happen, brazila playing Norway,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Brazil are going to win. So Moroccle versus Scotland, who
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: have a wins That's true, That's that's what was that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: We let ourselves down badly on that game.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Underrest of it, I just don't.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Trade GT sent off.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: In the game they went, they went for scoring the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: goal of Norway dying the hair to.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I had been mentioned. I think dying his hair was
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a bad idea and I think you know what I mean.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So that was what was blamed on if you scored
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: besind the remainings that did that. I started it all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the the whole team did that, the whole team.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I think that was his thought process was horrible.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But anything that was that. But yeah, so on that
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: game getting into them, Locle did underestimate them. I don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: think so. I think we just made a bad day
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: because I don't think we underrested him. You could you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: afford to underrest operation was just the same, the same
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in all the game. Maybe the expectation was that because
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a lot we were kind of unknown. It's typical, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you see the thing as well, in the world. Ryan
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: were higher than us, so how could we underestimate a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: team that's right high on USUS was African football whatever,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: but like now Morocco, they're African champions, brazila Brazil and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you think the hated game could be the one, but yeah,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: way back then turns out that it was a dead
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: rubber the game. Moroccle played very well, deserve the one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: The game by at least a few goals, and so
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: they're thinking, well, what's to score another and not knowing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: at all the time whistle and they get the biggest
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: knock down history finding it well Brazil.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just remembering that. I don't know why this
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is krept into my head. But we did the Sahara
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. I remember the guy, the tour guide,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Jamal Jamal, and it was it was.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Moroccan and he didn't realize anything to do because he
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: knew he was guiding another group. And we get talking
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: to him and the Morocco game came up and he
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: had the video and then the video of you with the.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: O g last I think it was just a slide,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and then then.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: We regretted even tell them who we were.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But there was another one as well. In that Morocca game.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I went in, I was mark player, I went into
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: close in and I've slapped and the boys knocked over
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: my head. The deflected off.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Found that when that that in the phone and then
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: zoomed in and I was like, that's boy, the boys.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: If you mentioned against me, I'm just going to talk
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: to you. So yeah, that was that was a huge
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: disappointment and falling on some Scottish performances, but previously against
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: whom we thought we would beat looking back away and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: some against worst teams. You know, Moroccle were a decent team.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Some guys in the prem a couple of guys, that's right. Yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: So you know to say that we went to he
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Undrest and no, I think we just had one of
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: those days because as I said, we were usually very solid.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: We conside the two two goals and that we're just
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: going to go back once Craig gets setting off, we're
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: just going to get back into the game.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: It brings us back to recent times. Then, so you're
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: obviously going to the hated game. Do you think we've
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: got enough on the locker to get out of the group, And.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Definitely something that we've never done before.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I know the Beliver were very poor on the day,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: but the way we played against Bliver was fantastic and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: slightly different. We do we go. I think it's the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: main one where I think we'll get a great chance
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of winning. We can still take something from them against
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: thinks Stay were seeing us. But that's the one not
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that we can again, as we say, underestimate any up
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: level apposition. They just speaking New Zealand start a four
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: four two as well. I think he's got to and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that game definitely, I think it's got that's the way
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you can. Yeah, I don't know if you all no,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like if you're doing a week before the game, is
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that one of the most important games the first time
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: in twenty eight years and the week before you're playing
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: a completely foreign But again let everybody else the system
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is don't generally as long as we should be able
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to play anywhere, you know, as professional football is. But
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: me playing second for that. You know, if you look
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: at that, then so does he.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I mean John McGinn has got to start, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So who does he drop out of that that one
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to play McGain Christy it's Christie or he's not way
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to drop Garon doak.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: It's don't it's one of the if there's a four
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: four two and John McGann comes into other side, that
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that surprised me that that John didn't play, and but
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: we can take away for that first half performance that
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: had its bill of But yes, Bill, where he's talking about.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: The ratings are I think they're above Haiti in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: ratings as well. So I know sometimes that doesn't reflect.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: No, doesn't know, but it gives you a general idea
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: of how they've run against teams, you know. So it gives.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Different team when they play at home, you know.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some some players will be.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Is there any that doesn't I don't know.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I was there playing football. Just the altitude in general.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: No, I think the importance of that first game worth
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I look back to the tournaments of recent times, the Euros.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I think the lasting thoughts of the hungry why there
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: be no really you know that game now?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: It sees it said.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: The way the tournaments set up with but ten teams
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: out of forty two leaving get a positive result, get
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a couple of goals, and that I could take you through.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think we've got it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's twelve teams. I think it's a six
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: sixth third place team. This is something that's never been
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was in the last competitions.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It is, it's numbers harder to get knocked at it,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and that's percentage wise, you know. But it depends on
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: who you've got in your group. Toughly, I Hate is
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the one that you would think. I think Morocco must
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: win because of that situation. The Basil will be decent,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: but I think Morocco will be the hardest game totally.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, hopefully Brazil will undrested and estimates Scotland marriage
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: probably that'll be a different preparation. I would think you
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: go more defensive against the kind of players that you've got. Yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: so I really look forward to as there's there's Paul
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: much Davis say, there's a buzz about the place at
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the place. You know, I was getting here for the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: first time in twenty Yeah. I didn't think that would
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: have been the case the way back in the night
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: every four, don't I yeah, accustomed to apart for ninety four.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Well, lastly, I just hope you do get home for Hate.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: If we're doing that gig that you spoke about yes,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if you don't turn up.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I feel one a very few goals. Might I might
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: find a game as well. I know you've been talking
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: to people. Have things quickly before you go.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Prediction for winning it and a top goal scorer.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Oh that's very very very difficult. A few good teams
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I think I'll watched the France now the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: din and they look the zor of a strong, stronger
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: depths and squad. So I would say France top goal
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: scorer if I was coming back at the boy young goals,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: but hm, I would I would love it to be
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Messy or someone for the remainds. Is his last tournament
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: or some you know they call it the players. They
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: might want the one who knows what the players they've got.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I can't who's your favorite in
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: terms of scorers only?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I think I'm up there. I think so France and
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: EMBARKI double.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: He messes a few chances though mess is a few chances.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: So whin you go there? Just for sake of it?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going mess Bro want You've been an absolute pleasure.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I hope you make your way home safely. The local gig,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: but enjoy hate I always.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Do, hopefully find ways and find ways.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Always always, even your passport. I hope I've got three
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: points in the bag by that point.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Thanks for problem, Thank you very mu