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The Kenny Report | 30 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Ross. Stephen Lowey coming up, thanks for joining
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  Speaker 2: me tonight as a labor MP details his experience of
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  Speaker 2: due hatred. One of the country's leading businessmen in Stephen Lowey,
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  Speaker 2: joins me to shed light on the horrific impact of
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism in this country and how to combat it.
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  Speaker 2: Labor meantime seems to think it can keep breaking promises
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  Speaker 2: and doing the bidding of unions, expecting voters.
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  Speaker 1: Will just accept it.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump restarts negotiations with a run and also threatens
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  Speaker 2: to end its regime. I'll cross to Kristen Tate, also
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  Speaker 2: Tim Blair, Susi O'Brien and Stephen Senna tiempo on the good,
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  Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly of the day. Let's get cracking. Look,
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  Speaker 2: the political debate in this country is an ongoing side show,
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  Speaker 2: and we, the taxpayers, are the punchline. The outrageous indulgence
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  Speaker 2: just rolls on. The arrogance and hubris just rolls on,
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  Speaker 2: and there is precious little accountability outside of elections federally
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  Speaker 2: up to two years away. The latest abuse of your
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  Speaker 2: trust and your money comes via the chair of the
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  Speaker 2: climate change Authority Matt Keen. We told you at the
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  Speaker 2: time that this appointment was wrong. Keen is a former
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales Liberal treasurer. He's a climate alarmist and
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  Speaker 2: green energy evangelist, and he took the pieces of silver
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  Speaker 2: from labor for this cushy federal job. But he also
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  Speaker 2: kept his role in private business with a major renewable
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  Speaker 2: energy investment fund.
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  Speaker 1: And now The.
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  Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph has revealed how taxpayers dollars have been caught
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  Speaker 2: up in an alleged conflict of interest Anthony Albanese's climate
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  Speaker 2: Matt Keen faces calls to resign, says The Daily Telegraph,
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  Speaker 2: after taxpayers will build more than thirty two thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: for his travel to the United Nation's Global Warming conference
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  Speaker 2: in Brazil, where he appeared on a panel sponsored by
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  Speaker 2: his private employer. Yeah, taxpayers send him on a luxurious
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  Speaker 2: trip to Brazil and he gets up and sprooks for
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  Speaker 2: investors for his private investment firm while he's there.
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  Speaker 1: This is just so typical of the global climate.
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  Speaker 2: Change wrought millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions, billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars, and all to achieve nothing but higher power prices.
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  Speaker 2: And more money for renewables companies than the people running them.
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  Speaker 2: It's just another scandal, of course, to be brushed off
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  Speaker 2: by the alban easy labor government, which gets the usual
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  Speaker 2: soft treatment from the green left media. These people are
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  Speaker 2: incredibly smug and arrogant because they keep getting away with it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, have a listened to Treasurer Jim Charmers on
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast TV today trying to defend his so called widow's tax,
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  Speaker 2: where under his new laws, a widow or we're taking
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  Speaker 2: sole ownership of a deceased partner's property, will we hit
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  Speaker 2: with extra tax? The same will happen with divorces. But
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  Speaker 2: it's not a problem, according to Charmers.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's why we're addressing it. Tom, That's why we're
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  Speaker 3: fixing that. That's why we're changing that so that that
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  Speaker 3: won't happen.
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  Speaker 4: Your question because, I mean, your government faces an issue
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  Speaker 4: about trust right and you don't have the best track
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  Speaker 4: record when it comes to keeping your word. So are
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  Speaker 4: we just going to take you on your word this
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  Speaker 4: time and I hope that you deliver.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's your view, Sarah, but we've made it really
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  Speaker 3: clear that record. This is an issue that we will
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  Speaker 3: address in the I heard you, I heard you the
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  Speaker 3: first time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's this.
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  Speaker 3: We've made it really clear that this is an issue
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  Speaker 3: that we will be addressing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, it wasn't her view. It is Labour's track record.
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  Speaker 2: It is fat Let me be very clear about that.
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  Speaker 2: Charmers nor Albanzi can be trusted. They've done what they
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  Speaker 2: promised not to do. They've done it on changing previously
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  Speaker 2: legislated tax cuts, on promised lower power prices, on negative gearing,
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  Speaker 2: and on capital gains tax. They promised not to raise
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  Speaker 2: taxes and then they did it. They say one thing
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  Speaker 2: and they do another. Let's again be clear, to use
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  Speaker 2: the Treasurer's favorite expression, that is their record. That is
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  Speaker 2: the fact. They cannot dismiss that as someone's view. Their
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  Speaker 2: only option is to try to convince people it's justifiable.
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  Speaker 2: Labor continues to do the bidding for the major unions
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  Speaker 2: in a way that raises costs on the economy, on
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  Speaker 2: customers and therefore undermines our future. Despite the horrors in Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: the dubious dealings between Labor, the CFMEU and major construction projects,
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  Speaker 2: the alban Ezi government has just passed li that give
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  Speaker 2: it the ability to preference contracts for companies that have
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  Speaker 2: enterprise deals with unions, just more feathering of the union
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  Speaker 2: nests at the expense of taxpayers and to the detriment
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  Speaker 2: of the economy. And have a look at this from yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: What happens when one of the original so called Senate
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  Speaker 2: mean girls, Penny Wong, is called a mean girl, Well
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  Speaker 2: she gets kind of mean.
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  Speaker 6: This is what the Senator for Higher Taxes, also known
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  Speaker 6: as Senator Hume is actually articulating as the Deputy leader.
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  Speaker 5: And that really lays bare.
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  Speaker 3: How withdraw that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Withdraw that?
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  Speaker 7: Please resume your seat, Senator Hume, or withdraw your comment
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  Speaker 7: our order.
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  Speaker 1: I'm running the chamber. Plenty of finger pointing. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: Wong, of course, was accused of being mean to the
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  Speaker 2: late Labor Senator Kimberly Kitchen came up with the term
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  Speaker 2: for her fellow Labor Senators Penny Wong and Katie Gallaghan,
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  Speaker 2: and I reckon Wog and Gallagher were incredibly mean to
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  Speaker 2: former Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds too, as she alleges, with
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  Speaker 2: Gallagher having to correct the parliamentary record on at least
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  Speaker 2: one occasion. The way I see it, they love being mean,
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  Speaker 2: but they won't put up with being called mean. But
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  Speaker 2: then Wong would have learnt from some of the meanest
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  Speaker 2: players in the caper. Like all labor politicians, she's a
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  Speaker 2: union member. She's with the Australian Services Union. She's also
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  Speaker 2: a member of the CFMU. So this is the government
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  Speaker 2: we're dealing with and which is facing far too little
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  Speaker 2: scrutiny and accountability as we speak. I like the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: premier as opposed to corruption in any form.
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  Speaker 1: It's up to our authorities over.
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  Speaker 2: There's evidence, as I said last night, for action to
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  Speaker 2: be taken. Yeah, up to their neck in their relationships
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  Speaker 2: with the unions, mean with everything except taxpayers money, and
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  Speaker 2: arrogantly certain they'll never be brought to account. Tragically, Labour's
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  Speaker 2: terrible governance is being aided and abetted.
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  Speaker 1: By some Liberals.
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  Speaker 2: Front bencher Melissa Macintosh ruined the coalition's day yesterday with
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  Speaker 2: her ridiculous rebranding intervention, and this morning she doubled down
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  Speaker 2: on the distruction.
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  Speaker 8: If things aren't resonating, and if people are actually latching
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  Speaker 8: onto our policies and believing in that, but they're not
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  Speaker 8: wanting to vote for us, then maybe we need to
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  Speaker 8: do something about the brand.
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  Speaker 2: This is such blatant self harm. Australians are being treated
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  Speaker 2: with disdain by the Labor government and Macintosh just wants
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  Speaker 2: to navel gays and look for marketing solutions for the
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  Speaker 2: liberals and they wonder why people prefer one nation at
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  Speaker 2: the moment. The Bondi Royal Commission today heard from a
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  Speaker 2: Labour MP about the vile spread of due hatred on
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  Speaker 2: social media. Federal Labor MP for the Melbourne seat of McNamara,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Burns, is Jewish and has had his electric office
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  Speaker 2: attacked and vandalized, but vile personal abuse and threats were
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  Speaker 2: also directed at Burns and his partner, Victorian Animal Justice
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  Speaker 2: MP Georgie Purcell. After the couple's relationship became public and
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  Speaker 2: they had a child together. Percell, who's not Jewish, became
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  Speaker 2: the victim of ongoing violent and sexualized threats linked to
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  Speaker 2: her having a Jewish partner. This stuff is sickening, it
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  Speaker 2: does not bear repeating, and it's routinely trafficked on social media.
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  Speaker 9: The social media platforms are the arenas of hate, and
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  Speaker 9: they are the platforms in which people can spread messages
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  Speaker 9: of dehumanization and racism and bilification, and I would actually
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  Speaker 9: challenge the social media platforms to prove that they are
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  Speaker 9: not amplifying that, that they are not using the conflict
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  Speaker 9: and the vilification that is occurring from one group to
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  Speaker 9: another in order to attract people and keep people online,
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  Speaker 9: because to me, that's what it seems like they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: I've got nothing but sympathy for Burns and Purcell over this.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody should ever have to put up with this. It's
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  Speaker 2: bad enough just experiencing it online. But as we've seen,
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  Speaker 2: this stuff is frightening because people act.
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  Speaker 1: On it, violence happens.
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  Speaker 2: I just hope Burns gets to speak with his Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister and other members of the federal cabinet to demand
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  Speaker 2: more moral leadership from labor. Albanezi's foreign policy only demonizes
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  Speaker 2: Israel and encourages Islamists terrorist groups.
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  Speaker 1: Like Hamas and Hesbalah, and he's done.
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  Speaker 2: Too little, too late to combat Islamist extremism on our shores. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: alb and Easy won't even mention this real and present danger.
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  Speaker 2: This is why the Royal Commission must call the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister and senior ministers to give evidence their diplomatic actions
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  Speaker 2: and their domestic inaction have been recklessly dangerous. They need
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  Speaker 2: to be cross examined. They need to understand what more
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  Speaker 2: they should have done and what must be done now
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  Speaker 2: as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Now, just on the Royal Commission.
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  Speaker 2: As I showed you yesterday, it hurt evidence from a
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  Speaker 2: great Australian, Stephen Lowey, the son of Frank Lowey, the
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  Speaker 2: Holocaust survivor who emigrated to Australia and founded the Westfield
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  Speaker 2: Empire literally from nothing. The Loweys have been business titans
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  Speaker 2: and great contributors in this country to charity, the arts, sport.
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  Speaker 1: And Jewish communities.
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  Speaker 2: Yet they too, of course, have been hit by the
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  Speaker 2: sickening wave of anti Semitism. Joining me in now live
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  Speaker 2: on the set is Stephen Lowe Stevens. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 2: for joining us, and congratulations on your submission to the
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start with that.
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  Speaker 2: That insight into life in Australia post Bondai. Your family
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  Speaker 2: has cherished the freedom in Australia, not totally free of
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism, but free from anything that you'd feared.
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  Speaker 1: Really and yet since BONDI, how's that changed?
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  Speaker 5: Sorry?
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  Speaker 1: Since October the seventh, how's that changed?
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  Speaker 10: I think it's changed dramatically and exponentially. Chris, I would
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  Speaker 10: say that in my family, my generation is the first
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  Speaker 10: to be born into a country of opportunity, freedom, decency, tolerance,
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  Speaker 10: and that was pretty much up until October seven. After
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  Speaker 10: October seven, I actually visited Israel very shortly after the
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  Speaker 10: October seven terrible atrocities, which was the worst to the
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  Speaker 10: Jewish people since the Holocaust, and then came home, and
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  Speaker 10: I came home to a different country. I felt that
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  Speaker 10: what had occurred at the Opera House and the few
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  Speaker 10: days before that in Western Sydney the glorification of again
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  Speaker 10: the greatest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust, and
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  Speaker 10: it just felt since then life has been different.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me how that's impacted your family directly with threats
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  Speaker 2: and security, and more broadly on the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's affected the community enormously, and our family and
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  Speaker 10: many others, I would have to say, our family alone.
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  Speaker 10: I gave testimony yesterday at the Royal Commission hearings where
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  Speaker 10: our family in the year two into year to February
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  Speaker 10: actually we'd received more than fifteen thousand really ugly and
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  Speaker 10: violent threats on social media and online in various platforms.
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  Speaker 10: We've identified more than two hundred persons of interest which
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  Speaker 10: were much more serious, and referred many of those to
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  Speaker 10: the police.
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  Speaker 2: Even long before the Bondi atrocity. I've spoken to Jewish
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  Speaker 2: mothers in Sydney and Melbourne who were worried, determined to
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  Speaker 2: send their children to Jewish schools, but worried they were
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  Speaker 2: sending them to terrorist targets in tears about that trauma.
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  Speaker 2: And you recount in your submission that one Jewish school
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  Speaker 2: in Sydney spends four million dollars a year in security.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people in the rest of the country
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  Speaker 1: don't see this.
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  Speaker 2: The cement bollyards around the school, the armed guards pick
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  Speaker 2: up and drop off. You must have that, and Bondai
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  Speaker 2: has shown to everyone you do need that security.
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  Speaker 10: There's no doubt that school you're referring to is actually
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  Speaker 10: Mariah College and it's the largest Jewish day school in Australia,
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  Speaker 10: more than sixteen hundred children. My children went there, my
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  Speaker 10: grandchildren go there. And when you now drop them off
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  Speaker 10: a kindy, you have not only fortified environment with guards outside,
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  Speaker 10: but you also have police now, and Jewish schools are
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  Speaker 10: the only schools that require that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to come back to the challenges and the solutions,
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  Speaker 2: but I just want to dwell on a personal inside
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  Speaker 2: here for a moment. Because I went to outswitch berken
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  Speaker 2: Ou earlier this year. I visited that horrific site and
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  Speaker 2: I've got some photos here that I took there on
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  Speaker 2: my visit with my family, and this just shows people
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  Speaker 2: how direct the connection is between Australians living today and
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  Speaker 2: the Holocaust, because on this trip we saw a railway
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  Speaker 2: carriage which is very it's eerie presence, it's horrific presence.
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  Speaker 2: They're showing how the Jews were railed into burken Out,
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  Speaker 2: and as it transpires there it is there that railway carriage.
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  Speaker 2: Your family sponsored and arranged for that carriage to be
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  Speaker 2: placed there. Your grandfather, Frank Lowi's father was bashed to
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  Speaker 2: dead death by a Nazi guard as he got off
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  Speaker 2: a carriage.
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  Speaker 1: Like that at burken Out.
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  Speaker 2: That's how direct the link is between Australia now and
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  Speaker 2: the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 10: Well, there's no doubt about that. And that's a picture
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  Speaker 10: of what happens when anti Semitism goes unchecked, as it
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  Speaker 10: did in Europe, particularly in Germany of that era. Are
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  Speaker 10: we in the nineteen twenties now or in the nineteen thirties,
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  Speaker 10: or are we not? And I think that the Commission
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  Speaker 10: has a responsibility to determine the root cause of anti
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  Speaker 10: Semitism in our country and obviously work on ways to
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  Speaker 10: deal with that with recommendations to the government, and then
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  Speaker 10: I'm an advocate for bipartisan support of enacting those recommendations
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  Speaker 10: and then also civic and business and institutional society taking
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  Speaker 10: those on as well, because unless there's a major change
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  Speaker 10: and back to what Australian values of tolerance and working
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  Speaker 10: together and giving everybody a fair goal will be in
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  Speaker 10: a different country.
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  Speaker 2: You also make recommendations when it comes to security. In
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  Speaker 2: the ideal world, you wouldn't need security for Jewish institutions
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  Speaker 2: in the Jewish community, but as we've just discussed, it's
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  Speaker 2: desperately needed. You're suggesting that there should actually be a
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  Speaker 2: special police force supplying this.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 10: I mean the Australian Jewish community in Australia accounts for
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  Speaker 10: about one half of one percent, about one and ten
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  Speaker 10: hundred and twenty thousand Jews. Yet Mike Burgess, the Director
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  Speaker 10: General of ASIO, just last week and one year ago,
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  Speaker 10: in his annual threat assessment said that anti Semitism is
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  Speaker 10: the most prevalent form of risk for our country. And
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  Speaker 10: according to his words, the only thing that the far
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  Speaker 10: right and the far left and Islamist extremism agree on
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  Speaker 10: is anti Semitism. And so we are a minority. But
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  Speaker 10: because where we're so disproportionate is the threat and the
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  Speaker 10: violence that we think it definitely needs a specific focus
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  Speaker 10: from law enforcement and intelligence agencies on the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 2: There is a lot of misinformation, A lot of it
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  Speaker 2: is circulated not just by social media but mainstream media.
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  Speaker 2: You also focus on education, education for police, for instance.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we need better education in all our schools of
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  Speaker 2: public servants of politicians.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a multifaceted approach because the route
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  Speaker 10: to deal with the root cause, I think one needs
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  Speaker 10: to deal with education of the public. The best way
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  Speaker 10: to do that is through schools, primary school, high school
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  Speaker 10: and even tertiary and our education system, our academic system,
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  Speaker 10: and through I would say, all of our institutions, whether
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  Speaker 10: they be in business or the arts, or medicine or academia.
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  Speaker 10: I think an education on antisemitism is required because antisemitism
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  Speaker 10: is thought of as a I think after October seven,
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  Speaker 10: anti Semitism was thought as a Jewish problem, but I
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  Speaker 10: am sure that after Bondai, the horrific attack of fifteen
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  Speaker 10: souls died, I think Australian public realized this is an
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  Speaker 10: Australian problem. This is a Western civilization problem and it
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  Speaker 10: needs to be attacked with education beforehand, what are tolerable
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  Speaker 10: norms that our society will accept, and then obviously dealing
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  Speaker 10: with police and intelligence to deal with it if in
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  Speaker 10: fact it occurs.
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  Speaker 2: Has Anthony Albanezi shown enough moral leadership on this issue?
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  Speaker 2: Does he need to show more moral leadership, especially in
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  Speaker 2: tackling the very real and present threat of Islamist extremism.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think Chris that Australia is unique because it's
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  Speaker 10: the only country to my knowledge, that is actually interrogating
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  Speaker 10: itself through a royal commission. Where you have a royal
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  Speaker 10: commission of the highest order with the highest legal backing, independent, apolitical,
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  Speaker 10: and done in a very disciplined and fair manner. So
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  Speaker 10: I think we should be very pleased with live in
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  Speaker 10: a country where we are prepared to examine ourselves and
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  Speaker 10: hopefully out of that comes some very bold recommendations that
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  Speaker 10: will be adhered to by our politicians and by our institutions,
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  Speaker 10: which we'll have to do. It won't be enough to
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  Speaker 10: have legislation. It will only be okay if civic society
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  Speaker 10: embraces those recommendations as well.
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  Speaker 2: What about that moral leadershi, that could only really come
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  Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think the Prime Minister ultimately made the decision
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  Speaker 10: to have the Royal Commission.
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  Speaker 1: And it resusted for a long while.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I'm well aware of the time that took place,
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  Speaker 10: but he ultimately had the courage to make that decision.
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  Speaker 10: And then from that decision we now have a very
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  Speaker 10: serious role commission taking place that is doing it in
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  Speaker 10: a very fair and proper manner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we hope it comes to with some really useful recommendations.
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  Speaker 2: I just got to get your thoughts on something happier
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  Speaker 2: before I let you go. Because you and your family
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  Speaker 2: have been instrumental in the professionalization of Australian soccer or football.
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  Speaker 1: You must be very gratified to see what's happening at
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I actually had the opportunity to go to the game
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  Speaker 10: in Seattle. Unfortunately it was the wrong game to go to.
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  Speaker 10: But every game you go to is important. It's a
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  Speaker 10: privilege to be at the World Cup. It was thirty
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  Speaker 10: two years before we were there. In two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 10: I had the privilege of chairing FFA at the time
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  Speaker 10: where we qualified for Russia and we're now in a
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  Speaker 10: qualifying round. We saw it today, how hard it is.
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  Speaker 10: Both Germany and Netherlands are no longer there, but we're
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: still there and I think we've got a great chance
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: against Egypt.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining usteven I appreciate it.
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: Pleasure.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Stephen Loewey there are joining us to talk about that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Royal Commission, his submission, and thousands of others that are
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: being considered. Let's go to Canberra now and catch up
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: with national politics and the latest move by Labor to.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Do the bidding of the Union movement.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: New laws pass by the Senate give the government special
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: dispensation now when awarding government contracts to discriminate in favor
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of companies that have done enterprise bargaining deals with the unions.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So much for a level playing field.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, let's catch up with the Shadow Attorney General, Michaulia Cash.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Michaulia, tell us.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: What you think the practical impact of these laws will.
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: Be well, Chris, can you believe it? The government has
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: effectively legalized favoritism or as some might say, legalized corruption.
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: Prior to yesterday, the government could not discriminate in favor
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: of companies that had it entered into are enterprise agreements
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: with unions that the Albanezy Labor government approved of. Hey,
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: quick rush it through the Senate, quick change of the law.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: No one will know about it. As of today. The
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: Australian Labor Party the government have now legalized this government
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: using the taxpayer's dollars when a company has an enterprise
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: agreement with their union. As I said, far from me
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: to say it, but others are well and truly saying
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: it legalized corruption Chris. And has that worked out for
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: the Victorian taxpayer? In relation to the Big Build and
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: the CFMU the mineral counts of Australia, they have well
• 21:43
  Speaker 11: and truly built the cat. They say this could affect
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: up to fifty billion dollars worth of government procurement.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Chris.
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: When you actually allocate a taxpayer funded project, do you
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: know how you allocate it best bang for the tax
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: payers back? You don't legalize corruption and hand out those
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: contracts to companies that are doing deals with your union mates.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wait to see what comes of all those
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: allegations in Victoria with the CFMU. But you know, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: just highlighted at the top of the program how close
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the links are. Of course, the Labor Party being the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: political arm of the union movement. All the Labor MPs
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: are members of the union. They have to be members
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of a union. Now, I remembered that Penny Wong, before
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: she went into politics, was a lawyer for the Cfmme well,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I noticed on a register of interest today I checked
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you's still a member of the CFM EU. So I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: mean the thickest thieves hereolutely.
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: And what's worse is if you were confident that the
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: Australian people would say, absolutely we want our taxpayer money
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: to be given to companies that have done deals with
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: the union. Don't you think the government would have actually
• 22:54
  Speaker 11: allowed us to inquire into this legislation? But instead, what
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: does it do dirty deal with? The Australian Greens rushes
• 23:03
  Speaker 11: it through the Senate yesterday under a guillotine and we
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: had absolutely no ability to scrutinize this legislation. As I said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: Australian should just look at Victoria and the state of that,
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: you know, the state that that state is actually in,
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: because that's what happens when the c of FIRMU basically
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: runs your state. And this is a government that now
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: our friends are the unions, and we will change the
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: laws so that we can actually legally now preference the unions.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: You have to be kidding me, Yeah, Sometimes to understand
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: how something is, how outrageous something is, that it pays
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to flip it around and imagine the reaction.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: If you flip it around.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So imagine correct, Imagine if a coalition government past laws
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: so that he could preference companies that were non unized,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: so that it could cut the union companies out of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: contracts on the basis that it could get things done
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: more efficiently. The country would come to a standstill in
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: national strike action.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: Can you imagine this the national and yet not a
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: peep out of the unions because their paymaster, absolutely the
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: Australian Labor Party, have done exactly what they wanted at
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: Every Australian should be absolutely petrified about what can now
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: happen up to fifty billion dollars in procurement contracts. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: on what planet does a government effectively legalize political favoritism
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: for its mate will that'd be on planet Albanisi, which,
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: sadly that's what we're now living.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to tell you about planet talk about
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: planet Coalition now because your colleague and Melissa McIntosh went
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: out with what someone called a brain fart yesterday about
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: rebranding the Liberal Party, taking the focus off the government
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and all the problems and broken promises that's dealing with.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yet she was back out there again today defending this idea.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Doesn't the Yes, someone in the cabinet in the Liberal
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Party who can give her a quiet word and tell
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: her just to leave off on this one and focus
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: on the government.
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: Angus Taylor has made it very very clear to each
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: and every one of us our sole focus must be
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: the Australian people. You know, when Australians sit down for
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: dinner tonight, you and I both know the conversations they'll
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: be having around the kitchen table, the dinner table. How
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: do we pay the mortgage, how do we pay the rent?
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: How do we pay the energy bill? How do we
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: pay the grocery bill? Our focus needs to be on
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: solely putting in place the policies that are going to
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: ensure that we can restore Australian standard of living which
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: have gone backwards under labor and also protect our great
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: way of life. So Wengus had made it very very
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: clear to us his focus and our focus must be
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: on improving the lives of the Australian people.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Michaulia. I appreciate it. Mikaulia Cash
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: there the Shadow. It's Attorney General Life from Canberra. We're
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: got to get to a break. On the other side,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to catch up with Tim Blair get his
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: thoughts on why one nation is now leading the coalition
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: in the Poles.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Let's catch up with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: He joins us from Western Victoria to talk to you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: against Tim.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I want you to this week.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I'd love you to walk us through your column because
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you attempt to explain the obvious I suppose in many
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: ways as to why one nation is sowing in the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: polls and for a starter as you look at a
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: series of contemptuous prime ministers.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I've recently been in a bit of a
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: wandering tour or listening to going around Victoria and New
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: South Wales. South Australia, and as you do chat to
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: people about politics and the like, and just in routine
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: average suburban Australia and in other areas of Australia, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: inner cities and remote Australia, you find a lot of
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: people who are shifting to one nation. And the explanation
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: about this is remarkably uniform. They believe that they've given
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: the established parties, Labor and the Coalition enough of a go,
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: and now having seen what they get from those governments,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: they're very much prepared to shift to largely untested one nation.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: And it makes perfect sense. We've had over the last
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: twenty years, I think ten years of labor, nine years
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: of the liberals of the Coalition, the combined brain power
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: of these outfits, with all of their resources, all of
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: their histories, all the traditions, all of the money at
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: the expertise at their disposal, one trillion dollars in debt,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: immigration policies that have left us with macheted kids in
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Melbourne and fifteen people dead on Bondi Beach. We've got
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: peak government entities that can't tell us what a woman
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: is and just keep filling out that list. That's what
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: we've been give the highest ever and going I've got Yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: we've destroyed an energy in the industry, in a nation
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: that is endlessly energetic, that has so many different supplies
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: of energy. Yet we don't have our own nuclear energy,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: we don't have oil, we don't have we're killing coal.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: And this is what these great political edities of giveness.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: So why not give someone else a go? Seems to
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: be the prevailing thought.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I've been mirroring your efforts actually for my next
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: project for Sky News. I've been traveling around western New
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: South Wales the seat of course that was won by
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: One Nation in the BI election in Farah, and also
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: over the South Australia where One Nation one seats in
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the Lower House.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: What struck meets him, I'm interested to get your thought
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: What's really struck me is that people used to be
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit on the quiet about supporting one Nation
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: because they knew it would open them up to a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: ridicule and even abuse. But now people are out and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: proud and from all walks of life, as you say,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: backgrounds and even indigenous people have come up to me
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: plenty of abused that they hate One Nation, but that
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: others saying yeah, they're voting one nation. So they've become
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: much more mainstream and people are happy to be out
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and proud about.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: It, absolutely, and that has a flow on effect. The
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: more people that admit to these terrible leanings, to this
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: forbidden fondness for pauling hands to one nation, the more
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: of other people, quite reasonably and acceptably feel emboldened to
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: speak up as well. And this, by no means is
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: that the one hundred percent of people who speak to
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: who have one nation inclined are actually admitting it. There's
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: still I think a shy one nation faut for sure,
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: So we should take that into account when we're looking
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: at poles that say one nation. Is that twenty nine
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: or thirty percent? Maybe it's a little bit higher, In fact,
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: very probably it is.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I just want to mention two. A couple of great
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: mates of yours bobbed up in the news together, as
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: we knew they would, Chris Bowen and Matt Kean. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: mentioned the top of the program. The Labour's climates are
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the former Liberal Treasurer Matt Kean conflict of interest allegations
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: over a very luxurious trip to Brazil, spooking some of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: his own company's offerings as well. Here's the shadow energy
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: minister down teen today.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: If he is.
• 30:19
  Speaker 12: At COP also promoting the interests of the company that
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: he works for, which benefits benefits from the decisions that
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: the government makes, how can he in good conscience be
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: undertaking that role? Match Keene should resign as Chris Bowen's
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: climate change are or the second is he should resign
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: from Willemeye Capital.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What do you reckon, tim?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They call it cop I suppose because all we ever
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: get is that we cop it in the neck every
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: time they meet.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Well. I don't want to get too much into personalities,
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: because both the people he mentioned don't really have them.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: But what I will say is that whenever we examine
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: climate issues, it always goes to large sums of money.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Doesn't it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: It always goes to private aircraft, it always goes to
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: trips overseas. It's never, actually very rarely is it about
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: the climate. It's all about how much money comes into
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: that climate industry. If only we had a similarly energetic
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: industry in perhaps you know, producing power. I don't know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: just a crazy thought.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Crazy thought.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They like out of money and they don't mind missions
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: as long as they're making them from a first class
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: airline seat. Thanks for joining us, Tim Porcatulator in the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: week Tim Blair there, you can read your stuff on
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph. After the break, I'm going to talk
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump restarting negotiations with Iran at the same
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: time that he threatens to end the regime in Tehran.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I'll cross to Christen Tate in the US.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: The on again, off again war in the Middle East
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: remains in limbo, with President Trump announcing new peace talks
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: with Iran.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Here's the latest from Fox News.
• 31:56
  Speaker 13: Traffic is slowly moving again in the Street of Horror moves.
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: After Iran attacked several commercial ships and US bases in
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: Kuwait and Bahrain over the weekend. The US responded, striking
• 32:07
  Speaker 13: several Iranian targets, but now it appears both sides are
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: returning to the negotiating table. President Trump says those talks
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: will begin Tuesday, but a senior Iranian negotiator denies meetings
• 32:19
  Speaker 13: are scheduled. Following the weekend flare up, the President said
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: the US could finish the war militarily if diplomatic efforts fail,
• 32:27
  Speaker 13: warning Tehran. If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: will no longer exist.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: As I put to Kristen Tight, not only is Donald
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Trump the president of endless threats, he also seems to
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: be exhibiting endless patients.
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: Yes, that's true.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: It seems like every day we wake up and there's
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: some new situation going on. There's a new peace treaty
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: or talks of a peace treaty, or tensions are escalating again.
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: Here's what I can tell you, Chris. The average American
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: on the ground, they are so tired of all of this.
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: There's a lot of fatigue surrounding the conflict here, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: Americans are just everyday folks. They're not keeping up with
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: the latest developments anymore. They are tired of this. I
• 33:14
  Speaker 14: saw a study before we went on air that said
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: the Iran war has cost Americans one thousand dollars per
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: household when you take into account higher fuel costs, higher
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: food costs, and other expenses.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: So people are just finding this hard to keep up with.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: It's a very complicated situation. And now it's clear that
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: this was never something that was going to be able
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: to be wrapped up very quickly in just a week
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: or two.
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: This could take some time.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: But hey, Trump is a master negotiator, so maybe he
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: can get it done.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he says himself as a master negotiat as sure,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But what he doesn't seem to understand is that you
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: cannot negotiate with the Islamic Republic of Iran. He either
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: needs to do what he needs to do, he needs
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to accomplish the military aims that he wants to accomplish,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: or walk away because you.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Can't negotiate with these people. It is not a rational regime.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: That's correct, and just fooling yourself into thinking you can
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: negotiate with these people as with dragged it out and
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: then everybody gets upset. The MAGA base who never wanted
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: to be in this conflict in the first place gets upset.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: The other folks who want this dealt with swiftly and
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: with force and are strongbackers of Israel, those people get upset.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: Nobody's happy in the end, and Americans are paying for
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: this financially and with American lives too. Let's not forget
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: we have lost American lives in this conflict. So I
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: agree with you Trump that the Trump administration has an
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: important decision to make that needs to be made eminently.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: We either walk away from this or we deal with
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: it with force and follow through on the threats.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on domestic politics and
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the rise in local politics of left wing or hift
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Democrats that'll be winning a few elections. Prime among them,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: of course, is the heraldcy of New York City with
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: ma'am dummy, have a listen to what the New York
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: City mayor has had to say.
• 35:06
  Speaker 15: For far too long, all we've had to say as
• 35:08
  Speaker 15: a party is opposition to the current administration.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: What do we have to say beyond that?
• 35:14
  Speaker 15: And what these candidates offer is a vision that extends
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: beyond the midterms. It extends beyond twenty twenty eight. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: speaks to what makes so many of us proud to
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: be Democrats. It speaks to a vision that goes back
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: to a new deal understanding of what working people deserve.
• 35:28
  Speaker 15: And I'll tell you that, for too long, that kind
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: of politics you can only find it in history books,
• 35:32
  Speaker 15: and we need to bring it back to the present day.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Good Lord Kristen, you can only find socialism in the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: history books.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Let's bring it back up my work this time.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: I hate to say it, but a lot of what
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: he's saying there is actually correct. Obviously his solutions are
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: totally wrong, but he's tapping into something that is you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: you see on the right as well. This is the
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: reason that the maga populism has has gotten, you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: so popular on the right wing. It's because these sort
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: of swishy people in the middle in both parties, they're
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: not really offering solutions to the problems of everyday Americans
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: who are really struggling right now with crime in American cities,
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: with higher prices, you name it, go down the list.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: And so unfortunately, a lot of naive young people who
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: have been indoctrinated three, you know, eighteen years in the
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: American school system, they hear the promises of socialism and
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: it sounds great to them because frankly, the swishes in
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: the middle they're not really offering any new solutions. So
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: the Democrat party needs to take a hard look at
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: itself and if they don't want to go full socialism,
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: they do need to change their core platform to offer
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: actual solutions that work to their voters. Because young people,
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: I know a lot of them, I've got some of
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: them in my family, they are trending socialist. In fact,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: fifty to sixty two percent of young American adults now
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: have a favorable view of socialism, according to recent pulse,
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: and that is not particularly surprising if you actually spend
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: time in this country. I see it every day. Young
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: people like the ideas, these pie in the sky ideas,
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: even though they don't work.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Good Lord, good Lord, I'll tell you.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody who loves America is our gatte, Paul Murray.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You've met Paul Murray, of course in the US, and.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: He's hosting a special Sky News documentary he's going to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: hear tomorrow night here on Sky News. It's called Trump's
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: America two hundred and fifty Years in the Making.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It's on tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: You're in full two fifty celebrations in the US.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: At the moment.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear what Americans might think of
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Paul Murray's interpretation of your country at the moment.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't wait to see it. It should be great.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Americans are really excited about the two hundred and fiftieth
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: anniversary of our great nition. We have the fourth of.
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: July Independence Day coming up.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: This Saturday, and it's a really big deal. This country
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: is so special. It's, in my opinion, the greatest country
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: in the history of the world. So many incredible people
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: built this country, and it's an opportunity to look back
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  Speaker 7: on our history and what made it so great, the
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  Speaker 7: people who made it so strong, and try to embody
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  Speaker 7: their spirit and their wisdom moving forward so that our
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  Speaker 7: country can.
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  Speaker 2: Sustain enjoy the celebrations. Christ and I'll look back on
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: them happily with you next week.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Chris.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, big week.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: In America and a big night tomorrow night here on
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  Speaker 2: Sky News. Trump's America two hundred and fifty years in
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  Speaker 2: the making.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: How could you ask for any more?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: The great country of America, twiundred and fifty years of
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: history and people and Paul Murray doing a road trip
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  Speaker 2: around it all.
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  Speaker 1: I only wish I had been doing it with him.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But I can't wait to watch.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It tomorrow night here on sky I News twenty four
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  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: For now, though, we've got to take a break.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: When I come back, I'll be joined by the Panelsusio
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Brian and Stephen Senna Tiempai.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen's climates being asked to resign. Also plenty of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: drama with the Victorian Liberals. Don't go away, Let's get
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: on with the panel now. Susio Brien's count join us
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: for technical reasons just at the moment, maybe the CFMAU
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: of a cable in Melbourne. So let's got a camera
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and catch up with Radio two. Do will see Breakfast
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: host Steven Santa Tiempe greatst talk to you, Matet, Chris.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: You would have been surprised that Chris Bowen and Matt
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Kean seem to have got themselves into a pickle.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 16: Look, I first met Chris Bowen I Reckon thirty years
• 39:36
  Speaker 16: ago and probably met Matt Keen about thirty two years ago,
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: and I'm amazed that either of them have risen to
• 39:41
  Speaker 16: the heights that they have. But look, this whole climate
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: scam has always been a junket. Why is anybody surprised
• 39:46
  Speaker 16: that they're taking first class trips around the world as
• 39:49
  Speaker 16: part of this ongoing junket. I mean, it's just absolutely
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: extraordinary that this is how we spend taxpayers money. But
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: does it really surprise anybody?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: No, The thing is, of course labor will look looking
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: for political cover by hiring a sort of like minded
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: green left liberal for this job. But right at the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: art set it was clear he was going to get
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the least perhaps. Yeah, well here's a great ally of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Malcolm turnbulls yea. And he always said he was going
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to keep this role in this private investment fund. It
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: was always going to be a conflict of interest, we
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: said so at the time. Now it's come to bite,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: then we shouldn't be surprised. But here's some of what
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Dan Teene had to say today about it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: Chris Bowen needs to be able to answer, is that
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: good governance. Isn't there a conflict of interest there?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: It seems a pretty fair prescription, doesn't it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 16: Stephen, Absolutely, But I think the question is a bit
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: redundant because, I mean, expecting good governance from this government
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: in any way, shape or form is beyond the pale.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, we know that regardless of.
• 40:51
  Speaker 16: What your thoughts on climate change as a reality or
• 40:54
  Speaker 16: not reality are, the government's approach to climate change has
• 40:57
  Speaker 16: been nothing but an absolute scam.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, all of this estmate in renewables.
• 41:01
  Speaker 16: Projects that aren't generating any electricity and are pushing our
• 41:04
  Speaker 16: electricity prices up. We then have the faux liberal come
• 41:07
  Speaker 16: on board to see it's all bipartisan. We'll send him
• 41:10
  Speaker 16: around the world first class so we can prove that
• 41:12
  Speaker 16: we're being bipartisan, and all the while it's our back
• 41:15
  Speaker 16: pockets that are being hit. Energy price has gone up
• 41:18
  Speaker 16: nearly thirty percent in the last twelve months. Here in
• 41:20
  Speaker 16: the ACT, where we pretend we operate on one hundred
• 41:22
  Speaker 16: percent renewable energy, our energy prices are going up.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Dick Smith told me the other day.
• 41:27
  Speaker 16: That on most days we operate on eighty percent coal
• 41:30
  Speaker 16: here in camera, but that's one hundred percent renewable.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Somehow it is laughable.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Of course, ACT does not run on one hundred percent renewables.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: It's like the buses you see driving around. They say
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: there are one hundred percent renewable zero buses. It's just ludicrous,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the nonsense that people are allowed to push on this stuff.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I know we're in a fact free society when it
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: comes to electricity prices. Of course, Chris Bowen only weeks
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: ago was spooking that the base level charges weren't going
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to be reduced. Yet we're seeing already starting tomorrow, starting
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in July, a lot of most power bills seem to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be going up.
• 42:14
  Speaker 16: Yeah, and that's the reality of it, and my mind's gone.
• 42:16
  Speaker 16: I even did what, remember, the government said.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Go out and shop around and get yourself the best deal.
• 42:20
  Speaker 16: I did, and a month later my electricity prices went
• 42:23
  Speaker 16: up to higher than what I was playing with the
• 42:24
  Speaker 16: last provider. So you know, even when you do what
• 42:27
  Speaker 16: the government tells you you've got to do, you're going
• 42:29
  Speaker 16: to cop it in the neck. But it's look, at
• 42:31
  Speaker 16: some point it's got to stop. But I've got to
• 42:33
  Speaker 16: say the conservative side of politics has got to take
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: some responsibility for this as well, because they approached this
• 42:38
  Speaker 16: whole debate in the wrong way from the very very
• 42:41
  Speaker 16: beginning and basically created a vacuum where people could get
• 42:44
  Speaker 16: you know, Labor and the Greens and all of these
• 42:47
  Speaker 16: rent seekers could go out and tell us that the
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: world was going to end tomorrow. Tomorrow never seems to come,
• 42:52
  Speaker 16: but apparently we're still supposed to.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Believe it well made.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Both sides of politics, state and federal have got to
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: wear this. Of course, Labor and the Greens are worse
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: on it, but the Liberals who have gone down this
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: path even Scott Morrison of course got elected on opposing
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that zero and then just flipped it before taking it
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to the polls. We've got Susie on board now from Melbourne.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Good of you to join us, better late than ever,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: will harve your salary this week, Susy. It gives us
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a good chance to switch to a very Melbourne topic
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and I've got to get your thoughts on this absolute
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: cluster mess around More Redeeming no meeting today between her
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and the leader Jess Wilson, and now talked that after
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: all the trauma of her staying in the party and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that defamation will.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Looks like she might be expelled from the Liberals after all.
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean this whole thing. The whole week the
• 43:42
  Speaker 17: media has been dominated by this saga between Matthew Guy
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: and More Redeeming. You know who did what?
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 43:50
  Speaker 17: And it's just an absolute debarkle And now it's come
• 43:53
  Speaker 17: out apparently there.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Was no assault.
• 43:56
  Speaker 17: Matthew Guy is understandably furious, got his lawyers at a
• 44:01
  Speaker 17: press conference, and everyone else is just saying, what is
• 44:04
  Speaker 17: this woman doing to this party? And Jess Wilson is
• 44:08
  Speaker 17: apparently having no more about it. You know, she is
• 44:11
  Speaker 17: saying that she's not going to meet with more deeming.
• 44:14
  Speaker 17: I wouldn't be surprised if we're going to see Moura
• 44:16
  Speaker 17: in one nation very soon.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly. She won't leave Parliament. She might switch to one nation,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: but will they want her. We've seen the vision, we
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: can probably see it again, Susie. I mean she called
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: this as a violent physical assault.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: She called it a headlock.
• 44:31
  Speaker 17: I mean, Matthew guy, if you think about it as
• 44:34
  Speaker 17: a male accused of something like this, he's very lucky
• 44:38
  Speaker 17: there is that footage because it really does clear things up,
• 44:42
  Speaker 17: or appear to clear things up luckily for him, because
• 44:46
  Speaker 17: that you know, there are other men who have been
• 44:48
  Speaker 17: accused of these things and haven't been so lucky.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: It is so true.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing myself, for he's just
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: lucky there was that security footage to Steven. Otherwise it
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: would have been his work against hers, presumably.
• 45:02
  Speaker 16: Absolutely, And I think that's the reason why one nation
• 45:05
  Speaker 16: have got cold on the idea of bringing across. But
• 45:07
  Speaker 16: you know, until John Berzuto made a martyr of more redeeming,
• 45:10
  Speaker 16: who had ever heard of her?
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: And now we all wish that we never had.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, she's going to be a problem for them.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And it goes to the whole thing that we've had
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: this week about you know, the rebranding Susie. And the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: thing is you've got a toxic labor government there, You've
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: got an election less than six months away.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: The Liberals have had a horrible run.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: They need to focus on voters concerns and a bad government.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And they're talking about this sort of internal fighting against Susie.
• 45:35
  Speaker 17: Oh look, and you know Angus Taylor, he was talking
• 45:37
  Speaker 17: this week, he was asked about this, you know, the rebranding.
• 45:40
  Speaker 17: They actually need a complete overhaul, not just a rebranding.
• 45:43
  Speaker 17: He's still talking about, Oh, we didn't come very well
• 45:45
  Speaker 17: out of COVID. You know, we should have really cracked
• 45:47
  Speaker 17: down on big business.
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: What an absolute Joe.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: There's a whole lot of water.
• 45:51
  Speaker 17: Under the bridge. Since the party, you know, like other parties,
• 45:55
  Speaker 17: failed to capitalize on bad labor governments coming out of COVID,
• 46:00
  Speaker 17: what have they done? Thinks nothing good.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Since we've wandered on to rebranding. And Melissa McIntosh, let's
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I was going to talk about that later on. Let's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: have a look at what she's had to say in
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: response to all the criticism coming her way.
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: Well, that's Tony's probabtive. He's our president of our party
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: and he's former Prime minister, and that's fine. But that's
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: another great thing about the Liberal Party. You can have
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: individual thoughts. We're not always all going to agree on everything.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: That's the great thing about the Liberal Party, Stephen. You
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: can try and focus on a message and fighting for voters,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: or you can just have brain farts and destroy the debate.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I'm disappointed.
• 46:42
  Speaker 16: I have Melissa Macintosh on about ten minutes before she
• 46:45
  Speaker 16: made these comments on television.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I wish she had made them on my program.
• 46:48
  Speaker 16: But look, Angus Taylor's got to actually get some discipline
• 46:51
  Speaker 16: in his party room. I'm all for the individuality and
• 46:54
  Speaker 16: people speaking their mind and being able to think for
• 46:56
  Speaker 16: themselves in the Labor in the Liberal Party as opposed
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: to the group think of the Labor Party. But you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 16: he's got Andrew Hasty out there saying, over my dead body,
• 47:03
  Speaker 16: will we do a deal with one Nation. He's got
• 47:05
  Speaker 16: Tony Passon saying well, no, let's just carve up all
• 47:07
  Speaker 16: the seats between us and one nation. And now Melissa
• 47:10
  Speaker 16: mack and Josh saying, now let's just call the whole
• 47:11
  Speaker 16: party something else. I want to lot the Nationals.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Think about this.
• 47:14
  Speaker 16: But there's got to be some discipline, and the discipline
• 47:17
  Speaker 16: has to come from Angus Taylor himself, and it's got
• 47:19
  Speaker 16: to be we need to be talking about cost of living,
• 47:21
  Speaker 16: cost of living, cost of living, cost of living.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Economy.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it ain't that stupid. It ain't that difficult
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to it's the economy stupid. It is difficult to impose
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: that authority though when you're doing so badly in the polls.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That's the Angus Taylor's problem.
• 47:38
  Speaker 17: SUSI and Angus Taylor is saying, you know, we are
• 47:41
  Speaker 17: solid as a rock. They're not solid as anything. They're
• 47:44
  Speaker 17: sinking like a stone. And you know this debarkling Victoria.
• 47:48
  Speaker 17: You know, we've got a state election within months and
• 47:51
  Speaker 17: everybody's looking at the state Liberal Party. Jess Wilson is
• 47:54
  Speaker 17: a very very good candidate. She deserves to do well.
• 47:58
  Speaker 17: People are saying they're not ready to govern, and it's
• 48:01
  Speaker 17: an absolute. The people are saying, oh my god, get
• 48:05
  Speaker 17: it together, because it is frightening believing something, give us
• 48:08
  Speaker 17: something to.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Vote, it is frightening. I was in Melbourne just last week.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Of course, you need a new government. But of course
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: when you look at a rabble like that arguing over
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: what a headlock is, you're not ready to govern.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but poor old Victoria's in limbo right now.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable stuff. Thanks for joining us, Steven and Susie. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll catch you next week. It's got a
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: bit of time to share some of your feedback from
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: what I had to say last night about the Bondai
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Royal Commission. We went over some of the submissions and
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: evidence of the Royal Commission yesterday and I had my
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: say about whether the Prime Minister and senior ministers should
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: actually front the commission to give evidence. One viewer says,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: how is this happening? The hatred toward Jews is sickening
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: and can't be tolerated. And another viewer says mainstream media
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: is responsible for more than they are willing to admit,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: which is why so many people have abandoned them.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: That's so true.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: There's been so so much bile and misinformation spread by
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: the media, and Bill says this should be at the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: top of the agenda. Australians murdered on our streets. Never
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: let the government off the hook, Well said it should
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: be the number one issue, and another viewer says, get Albo,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Burke and Wong on the stand, Now that's a Royal commission. Absolutely,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I think the Prime Minister certainly should be on the
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: stand to give evidence, explain his decisions and lack of
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: decisions and their implications, and hopefully get the message that
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: he needs to do more, show some moral leadership. Thanks
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: for joining me, I'll be back tomorrow night. Here's Kredlin