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NFL Week 10 Recap · Banter with the Boys

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  It's time for Bantor with the Boys.
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  What's up everybody?
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  Welcome back to Bantor with the Boys.
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  We're back at you this week.
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  I had a fun week in Vegas, I tell you what.
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  Congrats again to my brother-in-law and sister-in-law.
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  Getting hitched out there in Vegas.
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  What a good week we had.
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  But let's get back to the business here.
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  Week 10 is come and gone.
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  I have with me here today Smelty.
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  How you doing?
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  How you feeling?
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  I'm doing pretty good.
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  So, hold on, back up.
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  So the wedding was just the front, right?
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  Like you were just going to go to Vegas just to go nuts and wild and do Vegas stuff?
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  The wedding's just the front?
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  Eh, one could say.
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  One could say.
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  Had a good reason.
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  Had a good reason.
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  Fair enough.
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  Alright, so week 10 is come and gone.
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  We are on to week 11, but first let's get into the five featured games of week 10.
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  We're going to start off with my Packers.
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  Traveling to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Steelers were favored by three and a half.
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  They did indeed cover that three and a half.
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  My Packers could not pull it out.
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  The Steelers ended up winning 23 to 19.
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  I had my Packers winning that game.
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  I would have took in the money line to be honest with you.
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  I wouldn't really worry about the spread, although they did cover and we lost by that
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  spread.
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  The Packers Steelers winning that game, Smelty.
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  Were you able to watch it at all?
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  I did catch a little bit of it.
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  There's one big glaring thing that kind of stuck out to me for that game.
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  The Packers defense gave up over 200 rushing yards.
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  That's insane.
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  Like, I just like, are you kidding me?
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  I mean that's going to be a big reason why they lost the game.
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  Straight up.
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  Well, Smelty, as a Packers fan here my whole life, the last, I say, 10 or so years, our
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  run defense has been our absolute kryptonite.
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  We haven't been able to stop a nose bleed.
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  I mean, flashbacks of Colin Kaepernick tearing us up in the playoffs will always come back.
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  But it's the defense, we will for whatever reason not be able to formulate a defense
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  to be able to stop the run.
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  You're looking at Najee Harris having 16 carries for 82 yards.
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  That guy hasn't barely touched 82 yards on the year.
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  I'll tell you, I know I have him in fantasy.
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  Jalen Warren going for over 101.
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  Dude, yeah, Jalen Warren.
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  I just had him in my notes here.
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  I just said, Jalen Warren.
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  It's like, he went off.
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  Yeah, so Tomlin came out and said that Jalen Warren is now starting running back as well.
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  So he takes on the RB1 responsibilities going forward starting this week.
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  Whoa, I did not know that.
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  Very interesting.
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  Yep, that came out today.
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  So I actually have Jalen Warren in my same league I have with Najee Harris.
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  So unfortunately played Najee instead of Jalen this week, but that switch is definitely going
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  to be happening now.
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  But the story of the game, in my opinion, again, is just this offense, man.
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  We can't get anything going.
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  Jordan Love 21 of 40.
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  40 pass attempts is just absolutely insane for one, but only thrown for 289, barely complete
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  in 50 passes or barely complete in a 50 percentage passer rating, which is pretty much on par
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  for the year.
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  And two interceptions.
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  Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
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  I mean, one thing I will say about Jordan Love that you touched on, I don't know, earlier
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  this season is that he can't throw a deep ball.
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  I know you mentioned that a couple of times, but like this game, he at least showed that
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  there was definitely a couple of deep balls that were on the money.
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  So there is that.
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  And he still has that ability to make plays happen after he gets out of the pocket.
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  It's just whether or not he wants to tap into that ability at the given time or not.
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  I don't know.
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  I'm also not a huge fan.
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  I think the score was you guys were down 20 to 19.
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  And then there's a big trick play on third and 11 on your side of the field that just
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  didn't work at all.
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  And like, I just hate that play call.
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  Like you're down one on your side of the field third and 11.
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  Like, I mean, I guess right if it hits, you're probably catching them off guard.
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  But the throw over to I don't know if it was Aaron Jones.
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  I think it was Aaron Jones.
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  It was just it was on the ground.
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  So it was a fumble, blah, blah, blah.
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  They got it.
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  But he lost a bunch of yards on an opponent it away.
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  But I don't know.
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  Like I just that place ticks out for me in that game.
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  Yeah, it's it's just it's it's porous to watch this Packers offense right now.
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  But I mean, to Jordan's love credit, he had four or five throws in this game that were
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  absolutely incredible.
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  You touched on the deep ball ability.
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  He proved me wrong in this game in that regard.
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  This game couldn't complete a shorter intermediate past this game.
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  Right.
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  He did find that touchdown to Jayden Reed was just a beautiful just a lobbing ball that
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  came in right in the bread basket and an extra point blocked.
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  That's what I mean, to be honest with you, that's what essentially, you know, you can
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  make an argument.
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  It didn't cost us the game per se, but it was a huge play because twenty three nineteen
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  we had the ball in the red zone.
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  I mean, we had maybe not the red zone, but had the ball in field goal position with the
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  last drive of the game after the Steelers made that that field goal.
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  And we couldn't kick a field goal because we had that extra point blocked.
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  So that going back to J. Love, I mean, the two touchdown passes, the one to Jayden Reed
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  beautiful ball, the one to Romeo Dobbs getting it over the defenders with a little bit of
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  lace on it there just back on corner.
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  That corner.
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  Beautiful catch to the toe tap.
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  That was a great play.
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  Eighty seven's been reminding me a lot of the old white eighty seven that we had just a
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  number of years back here with his sideline ability.
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  He reminds me a lot of don't get me wrong.
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  He's not Jordan Nelson.
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  Don't get me wrong.
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  I'm not saying that, but he has shades of that ability.
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  Yeah, he's shown good flashes of of the ability.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's that's impressive.
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  Christian Watson.
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  I don't know what the hell's happened with him.
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  I mean, he's I honestly I don't get it.
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  Seven targets, two catches for 23 yards.
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  Now, granted, the targets don't really matter when Jordan loves your quarterback because
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  he only completes 50 percent of his passes anyway.
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  But that's two catches on seven targets.
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  That's not even that's barely 25 percent.
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  Yeah, no, I I don't know.
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  Like I assume you listened to the episode last week where, you know, we had a fellow
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  Packer fan on the pod and he was just saying how how he doesn't think Christian Watson's
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  a true number one receiver.
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  Do you do you agree with him on that?
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  I would absolutely agree.
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  I mean, if you look at statistically speaking this year, granted, Watson missed a couple
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  of games, but just from the actual production of the receivers are have he's our third receiver
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  right now.
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  It's Romeo Dobbs, Jayden Reed, Christian Watson.
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  So so Ben again, he was on last week.
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  He sent me this thing.
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  I think this was yesterday about Christian Watson.
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  Christian Watson has caught just 42 percent of his targets this season, and that's the
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  lowest catch percentage in the NFL.
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  That's super shitty.
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  That's crazy.
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  Again, I mean, you look at Christian Watson and what he brings to the offense.
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  He has that he's a vertical receiver.
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  So a lot of those targets are very, very bad throws, not excuse you're the lowest in the
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  league in terms of that.
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  That's a wild stat.
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  I didn't know that.
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  So it's not just missing the throws.
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  He's not winning the contested catches.
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  He's not really creating great separation for somebody with his speed and like just
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  athletic ability.
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  And then what mind boggles me is he's who we target on the last play of the game that
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  gets picked.
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  They're not the last play, but what ended up being the last possession and gets the
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  tipped ball for the pick in double coverage against Patrick Peterson, who is not the
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  Patrick Peterson of his cardinal days, but he ain't no scrub.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know what he's looking at.
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  It's kind of what I was actually going to say this about Kenny Pickett too, is I feel
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  like Jordan Love already pre snap already knows I'm going to this receiver or the plays
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  dead to me.
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  Like I don't know.
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  I don't know.
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  I just think he's just too slow on his reads, but I do think Christian Watson's also not
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  helping him out by getting not getting separation.
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  I mean, that's evident.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  And I would a hundred percent agree with you.
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  He's he maybe finds his second read, but this game they they're he really wasn't pressured
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  that much.
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  He had he only got sacked one time and this is a vaunted vaunted Pittsburgh front seven.
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  Yeah.
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  You look at the that interception.
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  He wasn't under pressure.
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  He threw the ball where he shouldn't have thrown the ball.
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  And now granted, they're going to just play the end zone in that situation.
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  So you know, you're not going to get an easy throw in there.
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  But I would much rather see Romeo Dobbs, Luke Musgrave, what must read.
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  Had a good game.
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  Yeah.
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  Or Jane Reed have that ability to go up and get the ball because they've proven they can
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  actually maybe freaking do it.
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  I mean, yeah, and then you take a look at Aaron Jones, who really didn't do too much.
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  I mean, I know you were excited.
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  I was kind of excited just to see because I know Aaron Jones ability.
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  So I was kind of excited to see what the offense could look like with the addition of having
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  a healthy Aaron Jones back.
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  And this week we didn't see any of that for sure.
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  With his 13 carries and 35 yards.
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  Yeah, absolutely not.
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  Now, I will take part ownership in that because I am a new proud owner of an Aaron Jones jersey
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  because living here in the Twin Cities, when you go to Shields to get a Packers jersey,
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  you have an option of Christian Watson or Aaron Jones.
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  And I'm taking Aaron Jones all day, so I might have cursed him.
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  So I don't know if that jersey will be coming out of the closet anytime soon.
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  But you're right, man.
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  13 rushes for 35 yards, 2.7 yards per carry.
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  That's not going to do it.
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  So wait, you said who's who's your jersey?
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  Aaron Jones.
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  Aaron Jones.
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  What's your other jersey then?
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  I mean, you you own two jerseys, so who's your other jersey?
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  I got a Rogers jersey.
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  OK, OK, I was just curious.
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  But I figured, you know, he's I might as well get a member of the team that well, that's
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  not true.
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  I actually own about four because I have a youth and a junior Reggie White jersey, my
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  favorite player of all time.
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  I'll never get rid of those.
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  No, you can't.
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  Killer.
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  Killer.
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  Yeah, but it's it's this Packers offense.
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  I don't even know what I can put it on anymore.
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  You know, I can't blame it all on Lefleur.
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  I can't blame it all on love.
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  I just don't know.
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  We just can't get anything going.
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  But enough of my beloved Packers.
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  We also had your Minnesota Vikings hosting the New Orleans Saints this week.
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  The Vikings were a two and a half point underdog in this game and ended up getting a pretty
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  dominant victory, winning 27 to 19.
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  How'd that game go for you, Smelty?
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  Yeah, I mean, to be honest, it's weird to see the Saints at a two and a half point favorite,
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  two and a half.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not my favorite.
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  It just means that nobody's trusting this whole Josh Dobbs experiment right now, which
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  I would say we're getting pretty good positive results from the experiment, if you dare call
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  it that.
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  But yeah, I mean, it was a blowout most of the game.
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  I think I remember it being probably 27 to three at one point before the Saints finally
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  started getting some going.
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  And they didn't really get anything going until Derek Carr left the game and Winston
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  came in.
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  Well, I mean, what do you think of Jameis?
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  I mean, I think he still has it.
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  Now, of course, he did the most Jameis thing ever.
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  Two touchdowns, two picks.
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  That is what we're used to seeing from Jameis.
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  But he kind of showed what he's capable of.
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  Derek Carr could be back the next time the Saints take the field.
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  So do you think that was enough to show teams that he can still play?
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  I don't know who.
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  I don't know.
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  Right.
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  I don't know what team would take a chance on him who needs to take a chance on him.
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  But like, do you think somebody does?
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  I personally know.
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  I mean, he's the same old Jameis, right?
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  Two touchdowns, two picks.
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  He's the only quarterback in NFL history to throw 30 touchdowns and 30 picks.
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  He's not going to.
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  He's good enough to play in this league as a backup, right?
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  He's more than good enough.
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  You know, I mean, I'm not going to say I would take Jameis Winston over Jordan Love even,
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  right?
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  I don't think there's a lot of teams in the league right now that would take him over
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  their current starter.
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  But he's good enough to be in the league coming as a backup.
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  You know, he can make any throw on the field.
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  He just makes the stupid decisions and that's what's going to hold him back from ever excelling.
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  That's the thing.
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  There was this throw to the back corner similar to Love to Dobbs.
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  Winston threw this ball right up to Olave in the back corner.
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  One of the better catches of the season.
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  It's crazy he was able to hold on to that.
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  But I mean, that throw was perfect.
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  Right.
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  It's one of the greatest catches of the season by far.
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  But he put that ball in a position where it's Chris Olave coming down with it or nobody
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  else.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  He's still making those throws but still capable of absolutely not making those throws and
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  continuing to make those mistakes as well.
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  But let's talk about the quarterback on the other side of the.
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  Well, what you got on Jamis?
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  Before we kick over to Mr. The Pastornaut here, the other thing with Jamis, that other
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  touchdown to A.T. Perry.
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  That's a ball you never make.
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  You never throw on the NFL.
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  He's on the left sideline and he throws that ball across the field over to him.
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  And it was number seven.
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  Byron Murphy for the Vikings just flat out lost the.
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  Wow.
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  The receiver six five.
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  He's he's he's an absolute monster of.
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  Well, I'm not going to say production wise, he's an absolute monster, but a monster of
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  a human where that ball is getting is an incompletion at best.
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  I would venture to say 85, 90 percent of the time with maybe 30 to 40 percent of that being
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  a pick six.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  No, I mean, the play Terry made Terry, right?
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  Perry.
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  Perry.
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  Perry.
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  His first name starts with a T, I think.
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  I don't know.
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  A.T. A.T. Perry.
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  There we go.
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  There's a T in there somewhere.
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  But I mean, that's low key.
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  Not the I want to compare him to D.K.
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  Obviously, D.K. is a much better player.
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  But as far as size wise, like that's what we should be seeing from D.K. and we're really
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  not right now.
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  But again, not to change gears, but like that just proves that that's how you can use your
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  body in the NFL if you have it properly.
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  That's why we see these tight ends just eaten every week.
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  Kelsey, Kittle, Andrews.
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  Now TJ is actually starting to get it going now.
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  Really got it going this game.
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  134 yards, 11 receptions on a TD.
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  You know, he can maybe be that safety blanket for Jameis or Derek Carr, whoever the heck's
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  going to play quarterback for the Saints.
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  At five and five, what else can the Saints do this season?
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  What do you think they should do?
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  I do have a friend that's somehow a Vikings fan and a Saints fan.
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  That's ass backwards.
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  I know.
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  I know.
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  I know.
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  I know, especially with all the history and all that shit.
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  So I don't really get it.
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  But anyway, he was just straight up telling me the other day, he's like, dude, it's time
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  to clean house.
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  Everybody got it.
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  It's time to rebuild the whole damn team.
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  He's like freaking out.
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  So like, I don't know, from your opinion, obviously you have no thing in the fight here.
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  That's a wild stretch to me.
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  I mean, the Saints have all the tools and foundational pieces where they're necessary.
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  Right?
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  I mean, they have loaded offensive talent.
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  You know, Michael Thomas going down.
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  That's the only thing about A.T. Perry with that play.
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  That's probably Michael Thomas if he's in the game at that point.
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  Right?
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  Oh, probably.
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  So A.T. Perry's a rookie.
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  He came in and, you know, he had two catches for 38 yards in that tud.
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  So he showed a little bit of what he could maybe do.
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  But back to what the Saints could be, they're also in the luxury of being in one of the
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  worst divisions in the NFL as a whole.
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  So they have a very, very, very good chance and even like realistic chance to win their
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  division and be a playoff team this year.
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  They're a quarterback away from being a really, really, really good team.
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  Derek Carr is not the answer.
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  James Winston's not the answer.
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  But in the same hand, like there's nobody out you can go and get right now that's going
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  to get you that this year you might be able to grab a Bo Nicks, Chader Sanders in the
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  second or third round of the draft this year.
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  What about a free agent veteran next year?
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  You would have to tell me who's available before I could even say that.
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  Like the big name quarterbacks don't go hit the open market.
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  I hate to say this and I don't know how much of a big name he really is.
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  But like bringing up the pastor not right now.
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  I think if you're quasi the GM of the Vikings, you have to think about.
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  Dobbs is out here earning a chance to have a contract next year.
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  Kirk Cousins contract is up.
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  He could be available.
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  And I do believe that he has at least two more solid years of potential playoff football
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  left in him, whether or not he takes you to the big dance.
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  I have no idea.
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  I'd still love to see him here in Minnesota.
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  But I think quasi has a big decision to make.
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  I mean, if Dobbs keeps playing the way he way he is.
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  No, you're absolutely right.
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  I mean, that's the one of the before he got hurt before he had a season and an injury,
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  he was playing the best football of his career.
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  He had plenty of football left in him, assuming he can recover.
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  But as we'll get to a little bit later, apparently a torn Achilles for a quarterbacks.
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  No fucking issue.
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  Yeah, allegedly.
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  Yeah.
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  But you know, that's true.
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  I think we need to see more Dobbs consistency.
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  Oh, 100 percent.
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  No, I'm right there with you because right now I want Kirk Cousins as a Vikings fan.
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  I want Kirk Cousins back next year as my quarterback straight up.
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  But if Dobbs keeps doing what he's doing, it's nice to see the ability, the running
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  ability.
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  It's different.
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  And I think Kevin O'Connell would absolutely I mean, you're already seeing it.
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  The dude didn't even have any practice snaps last week.
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  And he came in and O'Connell's telling him what to do through his helmet.
• 17:22
  Like this dude's going here, this dude's going here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 17:26
  Like and he was able to do it and still make plays with his legs.
• 17:29
  I mean, even this week, eight carries and 44 yards with a tutty.
• 17:32
  Obviously a lot of that's just extending the play and then nothing there.
• 17:36
  Boom, I'm gone.
• 17:37
  He has a speed to do that.
• 17:38
  So that is another aspect of the game that Kirk Cousins doesn't bring you.
• 17:42
  But it's hard to argue what Kirk was doing prior to the injury.
• 17:46
  No, absolutely, man.
• 17:47
  Absolutely.
• 17:48
  It's crazy to me how Dobbs is on his ninth team in the NFL.
• 17:51
  Like that's that's mind boggling to me just because of, like you said, his escape ability,
• 17:55
  what he can bring after that.
• 17:56
  He doesn't make bad decisions.
• 17:59
  You know, he's not going to try to put the ball in a place where it's a little bit more
• 18:04
  questionable.
• 18:05
  Now, granted, you bring up that he didn't know the plays.
• 18:08
  He didn't even know where the Vikings locker room when he got to the stadium last week.
• 18:11
  He didn't know where he was going.
• 18:13
  Nor the names of his players, teammates.
• 18:15
  He had no idea the names.
• 18:16
  He was like at the end of the game last week, he said, like, I guess I'll start off by
• 18:21
  this next week learning all your guys names.
• 18:23
  That's crazy.
• 18:24
  It's insane.
• 18:25
  I mean, then that just goes to show like we joke that he's the past or not because he's
• 18:30
  a legitimate astronaut.
• 18:32
  It's like the guy has all of the brains to be his quarterback in the NFL.
• 18:37
  And you know, I think the Vikings would be in the best position to win with Kirk Cousins
• 18:40
  as your quarterback.
• 18:41
  Now, I say that off of only a handful of experience seeing Dobbs on the Vikings.
• 18:46
  And the other thing is he's doing it without the top two, three receiver in the NFL at
• 18:50
  his disposal as well.
• 18:52
  So no doubt.
• 18:53
  What's he going to do when JJ comes back?
• 18:54
  And like, I don't want to keep going on the Vikings too long here.
• 18:57
  But like one last thing, really, like and again, like I want Kirk back.
• 19:02
  I'm a big Kirk guy.
• 19:03
  But sometimes in the NFL, as we've seen it before, sometimes that quarterback just needs
• 19:08
  that coach.
• 19:09
  You know, you see a coach and quarterback combinations that work all over the league
• 19:14
  that work for a long time.
• 19:17
  Maybe that's maybe that's what Dobbs needed.
• 19:19
  It's like if you look at it in that sense, now that becomes harder.
• 19:22
  Although I think Kirk Cousins and O'Connell mesh really well together as well.
• 19:27
  Kirk's one of the best play action quarterbacks in the league.
• 19:30
  So I don't know.
• 19:32
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:33
  And to go back kind of how this started, I think Kirk Cousins on the Saints would make
• 19:38
  them a legitimate contender in the NFC.
• 19:42
  Yeah, Kirk Cousins to a Lave.
• 19:44
  If Michael Thomas can come back and then now this A.T. Perry.
• 19:48
  Shahid.
• 19:49
  Yeah, Shahid.
• 19:50
  Yeah, yeah.
• 19:51
  And then, you know, if Alvin Kamara can be a shred of himself like you.
• 19:54
  They have the defense.
• 19:55
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:56
  Top five defense in the NFL.
• 19:57
  Yeah.
• 19:58
  Consistently, let alone playing in the Superdome.
• 20:00
  I couldn't imagine that that atmosphere.
• 20:02
  I'd love to go to a game.
• 20:03
  I'm not wearing any Viking shit there, but I'd love to go to a game there just to experience
• 20:09
  their who that nation, all that stuff like they party, man, like that's to go in there
• 20:14
  as an opposing team.
• 20:15
  Like, I think that's one of the best home field advantages you could have.
• 20:18
  100 percent agree.
• 20:19
  100 percent agree.
• 20:20
  I would love to see a game there, too.
• 20:22
  That's on my bucket list.
• 20:24
  That's on my bucket list.
• 20:26
  The first of the three games here is going to be the game of the week that we had, which
• 20:29
  turned out being the game of the week.
• 20:32
  Cleveland Browns traveling down to the Baltimore Ravens.
• 20:36
  What a game it was, Smelty.
• 20:37
  Cleveland Browns ended up winning this one 33 to 31.
• 20:41
  So the Browns were actually the underdog in this game by six whole points.
• 20:47
  They won the money on.
• 20:48
  Straight up, they won that game.
• 20:50
  I was surprised it was that six, to be honest with you.
• 20:53
  I mean, yes, how the Ravens have been playing, you know, has been super great, but it's still
• 20:58
  a division game, you know, and I don't know, it just kind of surprised me.
• 21:03
  But the outcome of the game didn't really surprise me at all.
• 21:05
  I mean, I did pick the Ravens to win this game, but what a game.
• 21:10
  I mean, it was it was the first series for me that really told me what kind of game that
• 21:16
  was going to be.
• 21:17
  I mean, the first drive of the game, Kyle Hamilton jumps the absolute hell out of a
• 21:22
  route, takes Watson to the house for a pick six to start the game.
• 21:25
  I'm like, OK, I think we better buckle up because it could go either way.
• 21:29
  And it and it did.
• 21:30
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:31
  I, Deshaun Watson is my quarterback in one of my leagues.
• 21:34
  So, you know, you check that you checked that fantasy score, you know, after about that
• 21:38
  first second possession, see what happened.
• 21:41
  And he was negative, did not enjoy seeing that.
• 21:44
  But what a play by Hamilton.
• 21:45
  This cat's going to be an absolute stun the NFL.
• 21:48
  He's already turning into one of the best safeties in the league.
• 21:51
  And like it was just what a game, man.
• 21:53
  Cleveland just rare.
• 21:54
  Baltimore came out 17-3 at the end of the first quarter.
• 21:58
  Yeah, Baltimore came out fire.
• 21:59
  And I thought for sure they were going to run away with it the way it was looking.
• 22:03
  But again, 17-3, obviously not insurmountable.
• 22:07
  And like I said, just the way the game started and everything, like you just kind of knew
• 22:11
  it had the potential to become the game that it was.
• 22:14
  And then, yeah, and then Browns come out in the second half and just start lighting it
• 22:18
  up.
• 22:19
  Deshaun Watson actually started looking pretty decent, actually started using his legs, starting
• 22:24
  to look like Houston, like O.G. Houston, Deshaun Watson.
• 22:30
  He did.
• 22:31
  He did.
• 22:32
  I was waiting for this moment to come.
• 22:33
  He's going to kind of come back to life and just be that O.G. Deshaun Watson, kind of
• 22:36
  see why he got that contract.
• 22:38
  And he proved that in the second half of this game.
• 22:40
  Amari Cooper is looking great.
• 22:43
  He's back to his raider form.
• 22:46
  And Najoku, another six catches right now this week.
• 22:49
  I mean, these cats are starting to get open for him.
• 22:52
  They are.
• 22:53
  They are.
• 22:54
  And he's putting the ball in the right spot.
• 22:55
  He's putting the ball in the right spot.
• 22:56
  It also helps when you got Jerome Ford back there that went off for another crazy game
• 22:59
  this week.
• 23:00
  And man, he's a little bit of explosive.
• 23:03
  I'm a big Jerome Ford guy.
• 23:05
  I mean, 17 carries for 107 yards, averaging 6.3 and as long as carries, 28.
• 23:12
  It's not like you win for a 75 yarder that got him the bulk of those.
• 23:15
  He was just consistent through this whole game.
• 23:17
  Grinding and pounding, 6.3 average.
• 23:19
  Yeah, again, the long 28, that's going to skew that average a little bit.
• 23:23
  But like, I would think he probably still averaged over five yards a carry.
• 23:27
  Oh, for sure.
• 23:29
  For sure.
• 23:30
  You know, it's it's I was quite impressed with this Browns.
• 23:32
  You know, they have the defense.
• 23:33
  We all know they have the defense.
• 23:35
  Personally, I thought the Ravens were the second best team in the NFL going into this
• 23:38
  week behind only the Eagles.
• 23:40
  They showed why they're up there.
• 23:43
  But Lamar Jackson's with two interceptions is going to hurt you.
• 23:46
  It's going to hurt you.
• 23:47
  And the one pick that really bugs me is right before half.
• 23:50
  And it turns out it didn't end up leading to points.
• 23:53
  But this one really bugged me.
• 23:54
  So Lamar right before half Lamar runs out and actually replays show.
• 23:59
  I believe that Lamar was actually stepping on out of bounds line when Mike Ford comes
• 24:03
  over and trucks him into the into the bench, which was crazy.
• 24:06
  No flag thrown, I don't think even, which I'm cool with that.
• 24:10
  You know, if you're a quarterback, you leave the pocket like my wife says, actually, she's
• 24:14
  like, oh, you deserve to get hit.
• 24:15
  Blah, blah, blah.
• 24:16
  You know, like, yeah, you're trying to make you're trying to gain yards.
• 24:20
  You're going to get hit.
• 24:21
  So right after that, Lamar comes out here.
• 24:24
  There's like 50 seconds left in the half.
• 24:26
  Whatever he bombs one downfield just to get picked by Mike Ford.
• 24:30
  And it was it wasn't a good throw.
• 24:32
  Like, so why?
• 24:34
  Now again, they gave Cleveland, you know, good field position.
• 24:38
  Cleveland proceeded to do nothing with it.
• 24:40
  So, you know, they didn't get points off it.
• 24:42
  But again, like, why?
• 24:43
  Why?
• 24:44
  Why?
• 24:45
  I mean, you're trying to put points on the board yourself, but like that was just a bad
• 24:48
  throw, man.
• 24:49
  That's a bad decision.
• 24:50
  I 100 percent agree with you.
• 24:52
  I don't get that.
• 24:53
  And that's not a decision Lamar's made at all this year.
• 24:56
  He has looked great at quarterback.
• 24:58
  He really has.
• 24:59
  He looked really like not loose this game.
• 25:02
  I guess.
• 25:03
  I really like I guess the opposite of not loose would be tight.
• 25:06
  So I could just say that.
• 25:07
  But he just looked like he just wasn't himself this game.
• 25:10
  He really didn't.
• 25:11
  I mean, he's still got a couple of yards on the ground, but that's going to be what you
• 25:15
  expect out of him all the time.
• 25:16
  Yeah, I mean, he was their leading rusher for eight carries for 41 yards.
• 25:20
  But you know, five point one average sounds good.
• 25:22
  But for a quarterback, that's that's, you know, when you have the scrambling ability
• 25:26
  and you're consistently picking up eight to 15 yards on a scramble, that's not Lamar Jackson
• 25:30
  type of numbers.
• 25:32
  No, no, no, I agree with you.
• 25:34
  I think I think Baltimore needs to run this kid, Keaton Mitchell a little more.
• 25:37
  He only had one big play, right?
• 25:40
  Thirty nine yards, three carries for 34.
• 25:42
  So obviously his other two rushes were for negative yardage.
• 25:45
  But on three carries, you can't really get into rhythm anyway.
• 25:49
  Gus Edwards has proven again this week that he's really not it, but he's your goal line
• 25:53
  back.
• 25:54
  I don't know about that.
• 25:55
  He's kind of more like a powerback to me.
• 25:56
  After what he's had the last three weeks he's had before this week though.
• 26:00
  I don't know.
• 26:01
  I think you need somebody back there.
• 26:02
  It's a little more shifty or even get Zay Flowers involved in some sort of jet or something.
• 26:07
  Yeah, I do like the idea of, you know, having that that that lightning thunder with Mitchell
• 26:11
  because Mitchell's touchdown that that 39 yard run that was explosive.
• 26:17
  He went zero to 60 real quick.
• 26:19
  But I want to talk about Zay Flowers just real quick.
• 26:21
  I mean, that that dude is shifty and he's got some of the fastest feet I think I've
• 26:25
  seen in the NFL.
• 26:27
  I mean, his routes are ridiculous and it's from those fast feet like he can make guys
• 26:32
  miss.
• 26:33
  I mean, even before the ball is thrown, his route running ability is insane.
• 26:37
  Yeah, he's a quick little bugger.
• 26:38
  I was hoping he would make it to the Packers in the first round this year and we would
• 26:41
  have drafted him.
• 26:42
  Oh, well, didn't work out.
• 26:44
  Didn't work out, man.
• 26:45
  Didn't work out.
• 26:46
  But I'd like to see OBJ getting a touchdown as well.
• 26:48
  You know, I've always kind of been an OBJ guy.
• 26:51
  After he caught the ball, he took off.
• 26:52
  He turned it on real quick.
• 26:54
  I was like, whoa, I actually that's another thing.
• 26:56
  I have in my notes.
• 26:57
  I said, Odell showed some speed in the third quarter on that touchdown.
• 27:01
  After he caught it, he took off.
• 27:02
  Yeah, he looked he looked like the OG original, you know, giant Odell.
• 27:06
  And I think they need to incorporate him into the game plan more.
• 27:09
  I really do.
• 27:10
  You just got to give him a chance at this point.
• 27:11
  Yeah.
• 27:12
  Oh, no, for sure.
• 27:13
  For sure.
• 27:14
  I think he's still got the ability.
• 27:15
  No doubt.
• 27:16
  Yeah, most certainly.
• 27:17
  Well, that's enough about the game of the week.
• 27:19
  Just for so the record shows, I did pick the Browns to I didn't expect the Browns to win
• 27:25
  this game.
• 27:26
  I didn't expect him to cover.
• 27:27
  You know, I thought it would be a one two point game, but the Browns ended up winning
• 27:31
  it there.
• 27:32
  Smelty did indeed have the Ravens.
• 27:33
  So we're going to move on.
• 27:35
  We had the Lions Chargers.
• 27:37
  Another hell of a game we had this year, Smelty.
• 27:40
  I'm sorry, not this year, this week, this week.
• 27:42
  Yeah.
• 27:43
  I mean, you could say this year so far even.
• 27:45
  I mean, what a game back and forth the whole game, really.
• 27:49
  The Chargers came out flat, for sure flat in that first half.
• 27:53
  And then and then they kind of started getting it together.
• 27:55
  Saw Herbert started getting in a rhythm in the second half.
• 27:58
  But Jared Goff kind of really starting to look the part.
• 28:01
  I mean, he's starting to look like that when the Rams went on a run with Jared Goff, he
• 28:05
  started to look like that Jared Goff.
• 28:07
  And he's kind of already looked like it since he's gotten there.
• 28:09
  It's like it was a new fresh.
• 28:12
  I mean, fresh air, new, new, new everything.
• 28:15
  Yeah, most certainly.
• 28:17
  Jared Goff has looked really good this year.
• 28:19
  And to me, what it is with this Lions offense right now with David Montgomery coming back
• 28:24
  and having that 75 yard bomb run, you could make a very, very strong argument.
• 28:30
  The Lions have the best one two backs in the NFL.
• 28:32
  That's hilarious.
• 28:33
  That's the number one note I have on this game.
• 28:36
  David Montgomery and Gibbs are the best running back to own the league right now today.
• 28:40
  I 100 percent agree with that.
• 28:41
  Yeah, I mean, no argument for me.
• 28:43
  Gibbs is going to be that that cat is so fast.
• 28:47
  He's gotten so much better as the seasons progress to every week.
• 28:51
  He's getting better.
• 28:52
  To be honest with you, I don't know if he's necessarily getting better or if they're just
• 28:56
  finally giving him the damn ball.
• 28:57
  Probably a little both.
• 28:59
  Yeah, he showed the flashes in the first couple of games.
• 29:01
  They just wanted to work him in a little bit.
• 29:03
  Kind of that B. John Robinson effect per se.
• 29:06
  But the story of this game, player of this game.
• 29:08
  Well, player of the Lions, you could say Amron St. Brown.
• 29:11
  I think most games are like you look at quarterback versus quarterback matchup.
• 29:16
  This was a receiver versus receiver matchup to me.
• 29:19
  Like Amon Ra versus Keenan Allen.
• 29:22
  What a showing.
• 29:23
  What a showing.
• 29:24
  Oh, what a showing it was.
• 29:25
  I mean, you have 156 yards for St. Brown and 175 for Keenan Allen.
• 29:31
  That's just crazy.
• 29:32
  Just crazy numbers.
• 29:33
  But this is an entertaining game through and through.
• 29:36
  The Lions came out hot, 10-3 lead after the first.
• 29:39
  And then, you know, going into half, they had that seven point lead.
• 29:43
  But what a fourth quarter it was.
• 29:44
  Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 29:46
  I mean, and going into that fourth quarter, you can just tell.
• 29:49
  I mean, you can tell the whole season already.
• 29:51
  But you can just tell.
• 29:52
  And I think Tony Romo said this actually during the game.
• 29:54
  I think he was one of the commentators for it.
• 29:57
  He said that win against Kansas City changed everything.
• 30:01
  And I kind of think I kind of buy into that.
• 30:03
  That plus Dan Campbell's grit mantra.
• 30:06
  Dude, I think that whole team is just buying into that shit super hard.
• 30:11
  And it's really showing on the field.
• 30:13
  I mean, every chance you get, those Lions are fighting for everything, both sides of
• 30:17
  the ball.
• 30:18
  No, absolutely.
• 30:19
  Absolutely.
• 30:20
  And obviously, Dan Campbell sets the precedent for that.
• 30:23
  But his coaching staff buying into that as well.
• 30:25
  You never hear about any rifts within the Lions organization.
• 30:28
  No.
• 30:29
  Like that entire franchise from ownership down to the, you know, ball boys are fully
• 30:34
  bought into the Dan Campbell mantra.
• 30:37
  And you don't see that nowadays.
• 30:40
  You know, he's an old school, great, hardcore coach.
• 30:43
  And you know, you just don't see that.
• 30:45
  You have the Kyle Shanahan, the Sean McVeighs, these new age, shifty play callers.
• 30:49
  More players coaches.
• 30:50
  I'm not saying that Dan Campbell's not.
• 30:51
  He's very connected with his players, very emotional for his players.
• 30:55
  But I write more of that old school vibe.
• 30:57
  Yeah.
• 30:58
  I mean, I would I would say that Dan Campbell might be the biggest player coach in the NFL
• 31:01
  with how he runs.
• 31:02
  I mean, Mike Tomlin is it's hard to relinquish that that crown per se.
• 31:07
  You know, everybody that's ever played for him talks about how great of a coach he was
• 31:10
  and then you take care about anybody that always wanted to play for him.
• 31:14
  So but back to the game here.
• 31:16
  You know, this game gave me like reminiscence of that that Casey L.A. game back on Sunday
• 31:22
  Night Football number years back when it was golf going against Mahomes down to the wire.
• 31:25
  Oh, yeah.
• 31:26
  The possession was going in it and it brought back memories of that.
• 31:29
  Rams won that game, didn't they?
• 31:30
  I got I can't remember.
• 31:32
  I feel like they did.
• 31:33
  But yeah, I do remember that game.
• 31:34
  That was crazy.
• 31:35
  But that like you were saying before, that fourth quarter nuts.
• 31:39
  Derred Goff showed the touch that he has on that ball in his fourth quarter touch on like
• 31:43
  what seven minutes left or whatever it was.
• 31:45
  But just the touch on that ball right over the defender, only the receivers catching
• 31:50
  it easy touchdown.
• 31:51
  I mean, he made it look easy and he's been doing it all year and then flip the field
• 31:57
  and Keenan Allen gets a Taddy on fourth and one.
• 31:59
  I mean, this game, they just kept exchanging blows.
• 32:02
  Yeah, it was a fun game to watch.
• 32:04
  That's for sure.
• 32:05
  That's for sure.
• 32:06
  You could have made an argument this ended up being the game of the week, but you can't
• 32:08
  go wrong with this with Browns Ravens.
• 32:12
  Let's move on with the last game here.
• 32:13
  We're going to recap.
• 32:14
  We had the San Francisco 49ers going down the dooo, booooo, taking on the Jacksonville
• 32:21
  Jaguars.
• 32:22
  49ers were.
• 32:23
  Don't look at me like that, son.
• 32:26
  49ers were.
• 32:27
  The you could probably hear my stare through the mic there.
• 32:32
  Oh my God.
• 32:34
  49ers were indeed a three and a half point favorite in going into this game.
• 32:39
  The Jaguars didn't even score three and a half points.
• 32:45
  Who picked the Jaguars last week?
• 32:47
  I can't remember.
• 32:49
  Pretty sure that was a Mr. Smelty.
• 32:50
  Now, I'm assuming he picked them to not necessarily win the game, but just cover.
• 32:54
  But it didn't matter.
• 32:55
  This game is over after the first quarter.
• 32:57
  Yeah, no, no doubt.
• 32:59
  I mean, the story of the game for me, I mean, is the pressure that San Francisco defense
• 33:05
  brought.
• 33:06
  I mean, you're you already saw I think it was on the third sack of the game.
• 33:10
  I think there's a total of five by that San Francisco defense.
• 33:13
  But I think on the third sack of the game, Chase Young and Nick Bosa met at the quarterback
• 33:17
  and I was like, damn it, that looks nice.
• 33:21
  I was like, that's going to be a problem.
• 33:23
  Come play off time.
• 33:24
  That's fucking scary.
• 33:25
  And then you got on the other side of the ball, Brock Purdy looking actually decent
• 33:29
  again.
• 33:30
  Good bounce back game for him.
• 33:31
  Like, damn, maybe San Francisco could become another slump.
• 33:35
  Yeah, man, is the story of the game.
• 33:37
  I mean, jokingly, Christian McCaffrey didn't score, snapped the touchdown streak at I believe
• 33:42
  it was 17.
• 33:43
  If he would have gotten one this game, he would have broke it.
• 33:45
  He tied the record and unused checks touchdown.
• 33:48
  Everybody's like, oh, he should have went down on the one or whatever.
• 33:51
  But he like got tackled in.
• 33:52
  Like, you could kind of tell he tried to stop running, maybe to go down to try to get McCaffrey
• 33:56
  that.
• 33:57
  But who's to say, right?
• 33:58
  To be honest with you, you got to credit the Niners.
• 34:00
  They had their entire backups in.
• 34:02
  I was one of the last possessions of the game.
• 34:04
  They had the ball in the within the 10 yard line and it was four touches to McCaffrey.
• 34:09
  You don't really see like coaches trying to help out their players in that regard.
• 34:13
  So it was cool to see that, you know, everybody in the in the world, let alone the defense,
• 34:17
  knew the ball was going to McCaffrey.
• 34:19
  You have literally all of your backups in playing against the Jacksonville starters.
• 34:23
  Right?
• 34:24
  No, I mean, the thing about McCaffrey that I noticed this game that I that I think everybody
• 34:31
  is probably already noticed, obviously, but when he cuts, it's so smooth.
• 34:37
  Like seamless.
• 34:38
  It is.
• 34:39
  It is.
• 34:40
  It's like that's why like I could write a smooth dude.
• 34:42
  It's so hard to explain.
• 34:43
  But like seamless is a really good word for it.
• 34:46
  There's no choppiness to it at all.
• 34:48
  Like all of a sudden he's cut and he's gone.
• 34:50
  Like, whoa, he's just so smooth.
• 34:53
  So I don't know.
• 34:54
  I just had to say that.
• 34:55
  Like it was just slick to watch.
• 34:57
  And I mean, I say that jokingly because he had 16 carries for 95 yards and average just
• 35:01
  under six yards a carry.
• 35:02
  The guy's still incredible.
• 35:04
  No, he's ridiculous.
• 35:06
  And then again, it always helps when you got guys like Brandon Iuke and then you got George
• 35:10
  Kittle, who continues to prove to me that he's the second best tight end in the league.
• 35:15
  Yeah.
• 35:16
  I mean, 49ers look the part, look the part.
• 35:20
  But if you're looking at do you have anything else to add on 49ers?
• 35:23
  The only thing I could say is it was good to see kind of Deebo come back into his form.
• 35:27
  He had three rushes for 29 yards in the touchdown and then four catches for 30 yards.
• 35:32
  So just about 80 yards total yards there on only six touches.
• 35:37
  Getting them back involved.
• 35:38
  That's really nice to see.
• 35:39
  Coming off the injury, just get him worked back into the system.
• 35:41
  I think next week or going forward, he's going to be an integral part of this offense as
• 35:45
  he should be.
• 35:46
  But I just don't see any weakness on this 49ers team right now.
• 35:49
  That's what I'm saying.
• 35:51
  During that game yesterday, I was just like, wow, how do you beat these guys?
• 35:55
  Truly.
• 35:56
  I mean, that defense scares the shit out of me.
• 35:58
  I don't know how you can really score on it.
• 36:02
  And they just proved it against the Jaguars, who are okay.
• 36:05
  I don't think they're starting to prove that they might not be a playoff team this season,
• 36:10
  but because of their inconsistencies and I don't know.
• 36:13
  But I think the 49ers are for real.
• 36:16
  I would agree with you.
• 36:17
  The crazy thing is, is Brock Purdy through for more yards than the Jaguars had total
• 36:22
  offense.
• 36:23
  That doesn't surprise me.
• 36:24
  I mean, the Jaguars offense, again, San Francisco's defense played wild, but Jaguars offense didn't
• 36:31
  do anything to the point where after the game, Doug Peterson, Peterson, sorry, is, quote,
• 36:37
  this was definitely a humbling experience.
• 36:39
  No shit.
• 36:41
  No shit.
• 36:42
  And the Jaguars, the thing about the Jags is they have a real tough stretch coming up.
• 36:46
  They have to go through that AFC North gauntlet, dude.
• 36:49
  They play the Bengals, Cleveland and Baltimore in that order.
• 36:52
  And that starts at like not next week or the week after, but three weeks away.
• 36:57
  They have to play those three teams in a row.
• 36:59
  So if they want to be a playoff team this year, those are the games you're going to
• 37:02
  have to win and prove to yourself that you're capable of going to the playoffs this year.
• 37:06
  I think you have to win two of those three games to make a legitimate chance at the playoffs.
• 37:10
  And I say that just because Colts look good this week.
• 37:13
  Now granted, they played the Patriots.
• 37:14
  I think my old high school football team could beat the Patriots right now.
• 37:17
  Yeah, they're looking rough.
• 37:19
  It's just tough.
• 37:20
  It's I love seeing it because I hate the Patriots.
• 37:23
  But and then you look at the Houston Texans, what CJ Stroud is doing down there.
• 37:27
  So it's the AFC South isn't a scrub division anymore.
• 37:30
  And people are talking potential Stroud for MVP all of a sudden.
• 37:34
  I think he should be in the conversation.
• 37:36
  Now he's not in the front runner by any way, shape or form.
• 37:40
  But he's not doing the wrong things.
• 37:42
  For sure.
• 37:43
  He needs to be in the conversation.
• 37:44
  I mean, you only saw for 500 yards, almost 500 yards and four tuds.
• 37:49
  One touch rushing on top of that.
• 37:51
  So you have five tuds total.
• 37:52
  Bryce Young who CJ Stroud.
• 37:56
  It's just crazy what that man's doing right now.
• 37:59
  It's just crazy what that man's doing.
• 38:00
  But let's move on.
• 38:04
  Let's get into 10 talks Melty.
• 38:05
  We're going to start off with some very, very unfortunate news coming out of the Dallas
• 38:10
  camp with Leighton Vander Esch going down in week eight against the 49ers.
• 38:16
  He got kind of pushed from behind into Micah Parsons leg and jammed his neck.
• 38:21
  He was on the IR.
• 38:22
  He was actually was eligible to return next week, but he's out for the season and the
• 38:29
  reports are showing that he might his career might be done.
• 38:33
  That is very, very, very unfortunate.
• 38:35
  You hate to hear those kind of news.
• 38:37
  There's all the reports out there that he's contemplating retirement at this point.
• 38:42
  It's just it sucks to see because he you know, he had a really good rookie year.
• 38:45
  He kind of fell off a little bit next couple of years, but he was he was back to form this
• 38:49
  year, man.
• 38:50
  Oh, he was for sure.
• 38:52
  Yeah, no, he was for sure.
• 38:53
  And the thing is, is like, this isn't necessarily a new issue.
• 38:57
  And that's why I think, you know, the possibility of a career ender is on the table.
• 39:03
  He's been dealing with this since his Boise State days, I guess.
• 39:06
  He had a surgery in what was it, 2020 or something to repair the similar deal.
• 39:11
  I can't imagine the decision he has to make.
• 39:15
  You know, is it a possibility?
• 39:17
  Do we know?
• 39:18
  Is it a possibility?
• 39:19
  Like, if he makes it worse, could he be paralyzed type of deal?
• 39:22
  I don't know.
• 39:23
  It's called spinal stenosis.
• 39:25
  I don't know shit about that.
• 39:29
  But I know it's not great, right.
• 39:33
  But if it's like a case of like, you could become paralyzed, right?
• 39:37
  How do you make that decision?
• 39:39
  You know, this is the game you love.
• 39:41
  You're doing it at the highest level you can do it in the world.
• 39:44
  You're making a lot of freaking money setting up the rest of your life.
• 39:50
  But when is it about your personal health?
• 39:52
  You know what I mean?
• 39:53
  So just doing a quick Google research here, it says that the spinal stenosis, it's not
• 39:58
  that you could become paralyzed.
• 40:00
  It's just that you have numbness and severe pain at times.
• 40:04
  There's like treatment options out there.
• 40:05
  But I mean, when you're talking to high caliber football player athlete, you can't have a
• 40:10
  numb leg at times, you know, so it's.
• 40:12
  So when is it worth it to push through that?
• 40:14
  You know what I mean?
• 40:15
  At that point, like, when is it worth it?
• 40:18
  Because you saw you see, you know, so he plays linebacker.
• 40:21
  You see Patrick Willis retired at age 30.
• 40:24
  You know, he had a couple of injuries, but he retired.
• 40:25
  I think his were concussions.
• 40:27
  Maybe I can't remember linebacker.
• 40:29
  Luke Keakley retired at 28.
• 40:32
  You know, you're starting to see guys, you know, protect their personal health.
• 40:36
  And I think that's absolutely in consideration for Vander Esch right now.
• 40:41
  And I mean, I mean, not only a big loss to the Cowboys, but a big loss to the NFL.
• 40:46
  Good player, fun to watch.
• 40:47
  Yeah, most certainly, most certainly.
• 40:49
  And the thing I love most about Leighton Vander Esch is he has that old school neck pad, man.
• 40:54
  Dude, I know that's his like, that's the key thing, right?
• 40:57
  Like if you see a Cowboys jersey right now on the field and you see a neck pad, you know
• 41:01
  it's Vander Esch.
• 41:02
  Obviously, we haven't seen it in a long time and it's weird.
• 41:05
  But yeah, no, I love I love the neck pad.
• 41:08
  I love seeing that, bro.
• 41:09
  But yeah, it sucks for somebody with so much upside.
• 41:12
  He's still young at 27.
• 41:13
  But you know, football takes a toll on you.
• 41:15
  But that's just it.
• 41:16
  Twenty seven.
• 41:17
  He's got the rest of his life in front of him.
• 41:19
  If he's been smart with his money, the money parts fine.
• 41:23
  It's a matter of passion.
• 41:24
  You obviously have a passion for the game.
• 41:26
  Some guys don't and then they just end up getting playing the game and whatever.
• 41:30
  But it's rare.
• 41:31
  Usually these guys have a passion.
• 41:32
  That's what's driven them to this point to play in the NFL.
• 41:36
  So I can't imagine.
• 41:38
  I just can't imagine the decisions he's got to make here going forward.
• 41:41
  Yeah, it's very, very unfortunate.
• 41:43
  Very, very unfortunate.
• 41:44
  And you know, he's an NFL player.
• 41:46
  He's made plenty of money in his life, depending on what he did with it.
• 41:49
  He's a bright kid.
• 41:50
  So I think he could he could go into something that he would be him and his family would
• 41:53
  be well taken care of.
• 41:54
  But you just hate to see it.
• 41:55
  Let's move on.
• 41:57
  Next we had Taylor Heinecke injuring his hamstring.
• 42:01
  This is an interesting one, Smeltzi.
• 42:03
  Desmond Ritter came in and looked pretty good.
• 42:06
  Artie Smith has come out and said they're going to reevaluate after the bye this week.
• 42:09
  Heinecke should be good to go, but it's going to be dependent on who he wants at the starting
• 42:12
  quarterback.
• 42:13
  Yeah.
• 42:14
  I mean, who would you take out of the two real quick based on play that you've seen?
• 42:18
  I think I would take Taylor Heinecke at this point simply because the Falcons are in the
• 42:22
  worst one of the worst divisions in football.
• 42:24
  So they have a legitimate chance of making the playoffs still.
• 42:26
  And I think Taylor Heinecke gives you a better chance to win.
• 42:29
  Desmond Ritter shows flashes, but the consistency is just not his thing.
• 42:33
  Yep.
• 42:34
  No, totally agree.
• 42:35
  But saying that, it would have to be a totally healthy Taylor Heinecke.
• 42:37
  Right.
• 42:38
  No, for sure.
• 42:39
  100 percent that hamstring is ready to go.
• 42:41
  Otherwise, absolutely not.
• 42:42
  Nope.
• 42:43
  I agree.
• 42:44
  Next, we had one of your Vikings going down with a concussion.
• 42:46
  Alexander Madison.
• 42:47
  Tell me more.
• 42:48
  Yeah, Madison.
• 42:49
  It's unfortunate for him personally.
• 42:52
  He just hasn't been able to get it going this year.
• 42:54
  We were hoping for that one, two punch with acres coming in, but then acres goes down
• 42:57
  with an Achilles.
• 42:58
  Now, Madison's down with a concussion.
• 43:01
  He's questionable.
• 43:02
  Probably not going to play this week if I had to guess.
• 43:04
  So you're probably going to see a little bit more of Ty Chandler for the Vikings, which
• 43:08
  is going to give you way more speed than what Madison gives you.
• 43:11
  Ty Chandler is very shifty and you saw flashes of it when Madison went down this week.
• 43:15
  You still got Kanae Nguyen Wu, who is also very shifty as well.
• 43:20
  So I don't think it'll be a huge deal for the Vikings offense, but it's not good for
• 43:25
  Madison.
• 43:26
  No, I agree with you.
• 43:27
  I actually really, really liked what I saw out of Ty Chandler.
• 43:30
  I actually, the two games I watched the most of were the Vikings game and the Packers game
• 43:34
  this week I was over at my newly married brother-in-law's and we had a set up two garage TVs.
• 43:40
  We had the Vikings on one, Packers on the other.
• 43:43
  So I actually was able to see the majority of both, or pretty much all of both games.
• 43:47
  And I really like what Chandler brought to the offense.
• 43:50
  I think pairing him with Josh Dobbs, you have two electric players in the backfield.
• 43:53
  I think Ty Chandler can do some things for you, man.
• 43:56
  And I think he's, this is either his second or third year in the league and he's just
• 43:59
  been buried on a depth chart is all that is, straight up.
• 44:02
  Like he's been behind Kanae as well and then Kanae's been injured.
• 44:05
  So you know, Ty Chandler's probably going to get his opportunity and I don't think he's
• 44:09
  going to let it pass.
• 44:10
  I would agree with you.
• 44:11
  Well, the New Orleans Saints smelt see, they hit the injury bug this week.
• 44:16
  They lost Derek Carr, Marshawn Lattimore and Michael Thomas.
• 44:21
  Derek Carr going down with a right shoulder injury.
• 44:24
  He hopes to return after the bye week this week.
• 44:26
  The Saints bye week could not have come at a better time.
• 44:29
  No kidding.
• 44:31
  This brings up the discussion of Derek Carr.
• 44:34
  Signed the big contract with the Saints in the off season.
• 44:35
  Jamis came in, he looked, we already spoke on it.
• 44:37
  We don't need to go too much more in depth, but Derek Carr hasn't been in the Saints, man.
• 44:42
  No.
• 44:43
  And I mean, who else was out there for the Saints even sign?
• 44:46
  I don't know if they would have signed anybody else.
• 44:49
  You're looking at Derek Carr and Jimmy G. Those are the two high profile free Asian
• 44:51
  quarterbacks this last year.
• 44:53
  I'm taking Derek Carr over Jimmy D all day.
• 44:54
  I am too.
• 44:56
  And then also neither one of them has performed anyway.
• 44:58
  So yeah, I'm curious again what the Saints may do at quarterback this off season.
• 45:03
  But yeah, I mean, we'll just see, you know, after the bye week, if Derek Carr is ready
• 45:07
  to go, obviously you're still choosing Derek Carr over Jamis Winston.
• 45:11
  Lattimore with the high ankle sprain.
• 45:13
  That's a little tougher.
• 45:14
  That's a little more touchy.
• 45:16
  High ankle sprains are a little more unpredictable on a timetable.
• 45:19
  He could be back in the two weeks after bye week, but he could be done for like four.
• 45:24
  I mean, it's high ankle sprains, real deal.
• 45:26
  I mean, that's tough to play on, especially at a skill position.
• 45:29
  No, most certainly.
• 45:30
  I think out of all the injuries here, like the quarterback is obviously the most important,
• 45:35
  but Marshawn Lattimore is a centerpiece of that defense.
• 45:37
  He's a top 10 cornerback in the NFL a lot would say, and he's an integral part of that
• 45:43
  defense.
• 45:44
  So in the same regard, he's not a young corner anymore.
• 45:47
  He's not old by any means, but I think the bye week again coming at a best time.
• 45:52
  But if there's a chance of him not at his full length and the possibility of injuring
• 45:55
  that more, you sit him for one, two, three weeks, whatever it takes to make sure he's
• 45:58
  healthy come crunch time when the Saints, even if they lose the next three games, are
• 46:02
  still going to be in contention in that division.
• 46:04
  Well, right.
• 46:05
  That's just it.
• 46:06
  So you got to make sure he's a hundred percent.
• 46:07
  I agree.
• 46:08
  The last injury we're going to talk about here that happened this week is Michael Thomas
• 46:13
  going down with a knee injury for those Saints there.
• 46:16
  He's hopefully going to be back after the bye week this week.
• 46:19
  Personally, he hasn't really done much this year.
• 46:22
  So I like to see what A.T. Perry has after seeing what he had kind of glimpses of last
• 46:25
  week.
• 46:26
  He hasn't done much in the last couple of seasons.
• 46:28
  That's true.
• 46:29
  I mean, that's what I mean.
• 46:30
  Like, I'm kind of checked out on Michael Thomas, to be honest with you.
• 46:33
  Like he's a guy that could use a change of scenery.
• 46:36
  And it's not that the Saints aren't a bad fit.
• 46:38
  It's just, dude, you need some fresh air.
• 46:40
  You need to get out of there a little bit, I think.
• 46:43
  But I don't know.
• 46:44
  Well, I think he needs a little bit more than just a change of scenery at this point.
• 46:47
  But we'll get into that later.
• 46:48
  Yeah.
• 46:49
  Yeah.
• 46:50
  The last thing we're going to talk about here from the injuries is the phenomenon of Aaron
• 46:54
  Rodgers.
• 46:55
  This motherfucker is targeting a mid December return from a torn Achilles that happened
• 47:02
  ten weeks ago.
• 47:03
  Do you think he's just trying to like play the media or play Joe Schmo's like us to be
• 47:09
  like, whoa, let's talk about this because this is crazy?
• 47:11
  Or do you think he's being freaking serious that he thinks like this darkness retreat
• 47:16
  gave him magical powers and he is ready to go to play on that repair to Achilles?
• 47:21
  To be honest with you, if I hadn't seen what he's done, like the pregame clips and all
• 47:28
  of that, the guys walking without crutches, he's taking small drop backs and completing
• 47:32
  and making drop backs already.
• 47:34
  So not this week.
• 47:35
  He didn't do anything in the pregame this week.
• 47:36
  He said he just his rehab didn't go quite as planned.
• 47:39
  So he was just resting it.
• 47:40
  Last week he did like a one, two step drop back and now it wasn't a hard drop back.
• 47:44
  No, but like you're making football, quote unquote moves.
• 47:48
  It wasn't a stationary throw.
• 47:49
  Yeah.
• 47:50
  So the other thing in his favor is he does play the quarterback position.
• 47:53
  There's not as much strain on that Achilles as say a running back receiver DB.
• 47:57
  And you've seen over the years how these quarterbacks take care of their bodies.
• 48:01
  Tom Brady, Russell Wilson.
• 48:03
  You saw it on the quarterback show on Netflix with Kirk Cousins.
• 48:06
  These quarterbacks take care of their bodies.
• 48:08
  They spend a lot of money to take care of their bodies because they know they're going
• 48:11
  to get drilled.
• 48:13
  So they do take care of their bodies.
• 48:15
  So we who knows?
• 48:17
  Maybe Rogers is back.
• 48:19
  And that's the thing with Rogers is that that man treats his body like a temple.
• 48:22
  Now, yeah, you have like the ayahuasca or whatever.
• 48:24
  But at the end of the day, that's medicine to a certain degree.
• 48:28
  It's not like he's out, you know, eating 14 Big Macs and that kind of shit.
• 48:32
  He takes care of his body.
• 48:33
  Or my favorite picture of Aaron Rodgers of all time.
• 48:36
  I think they just lost in the playoffs, like season over, you know, he's in the back of
• 48:39
  a pickup truck in the bed of a pickup truck or whatever, riding around Green Bay.
• 48:44
  So what that was, or was that a lookalike of Rogers?
• 48:47
  No, that was 100 percent Rogers.
• 48:49
  So not only was he back there, he was holding the case of Miller Lite.
• 48:52
  That's what I mean.
• 48:53
  He like holds it up and everything.
• 48:54
  So what that is actually is it was it was actually it was after the season that had
• 48:58
  ended.
• 48:59
  But how the Packers operate is their practice facility is actually across the street from
• 49:02
  Lambeau where their locker room is.
• 49:04
  So you actually have to walk or drive to the practice facility.
• 49:07
  So that's not an uncommon thing where you'll get three or four guys in the back of a pickup
• 49:11
  so you don't have to drive individual cars over there because you're in full pads.
• 49:14
  Sure.
• 49:15
  It's one of the intricacies of Lambeau.
• 49:16
  That's crazy.
• 49:17
  Yeah, no, that's cool.
• 49:18
  That's cool.
• 49:19
  So you actually like now he's not holding up a case of beer during the season doing
• 49:22
  that.
• 49:23
  But no, but I reason it got brought to light is because of the beer.
• 49:25
  And I know, but that's my favorite picture of Rogers of all time.
• 49:29
  And it's it kind of paints a pictures of pro athletes in general, like they're they're
• 49:33
  effing human beings to the real over, dude.
• 49:35
  He can go have fun.
• 49:37
  Some people were mad about it.
• 49:38
  And I don't know.
• 49:39
  This was like, what, three years ago.
• 49:40
  So we don't need to keep talking about it.
• 49:41
  But like, I kind of want that, you know, when we get our banter studio built, kind of want
• 49:46
  that as a picture like on the wall.
• 49:48
  I wouldn't be a case of beer.
• 49:50
  I would love it.
• 49:51
  Yeah, man.
• 49:52
  It's a it's just it's just Rogers is so misportrayed in the media to who he really is.
• 49:58
  And I mean, I'm not saying that as a homer.
• 50:00
  It's like, obviously, I'm a big Rogers fan, I said earlier, I have his jersey.
• 50:04
  He's in my.
• 50:05
  Well, we're not going to get into this debate.
• 50:06
  That's for another time.
• 50:07
  I won't even say it to just even go there.
• 50:11
  I'm not going to say he's not the greatest quarterback of all time.
• 50:13
  He's not the greatest of all time, but he's the most talented of all time.
• 50:16
  So in my opinion, there's three different ways to view a quarterback.
• 50:18
  You have the most accomplished, the most talented and the greatest of all time.
• 50:22
  So those three Tom Brady takes two of the three.
• 50:24
  I think he's the greatest and the most accomplished.
• 50:26
  Obviously, the most Super Bowls.
• 50:27
  He is the most accomplished.
• 50:28
  When you put it all together, to me, the talent and the accomplishments together, you put
• 50:34
  those together and that's what becomes the greatest.
• 50:37
  So the seven rings speak for themselves.
• 50:38
  At the end of the day, the guy can play the fucking game of football, too.
• 50:41
  He was a hell of a player.
• 50:42
  But I would say Aaron Rodgers is more talented.
• 50:46
  Would you say he's more talented than Patrick Mahomes?
• 50:49
  Patrick Mahomes hasn't had a long enough career for me to make that judgment.
• 50:52
  When Patrick Mahomes, when it's all said and done, Patrick Mahomes will probably own the
• 50:55
  title of both.
• 50:56
  I mean, right, right.
• 50:58
  I could see that as well.
• 50:59
  Don't get me wrong, a couple of years ago, Aaron Rodgers, 100 percent.
• 51:03
  I mean, he's been so consistent since he really took over the starting job.
• 51:07
  I agree with you 100 percent.
• 51:09
  He could be the most skilled, but I do believe Patrick Mahomes is a better quarterback than
• 51:13
  Aaron Rodgers is or will be by the end of his career.
• 51:16
  Yeah, we'll see.
• 51:17
  We'll see.
• 51:18
  I agree with you.
• 51:19
  I really do think with as long as Andy Reid sticks around for the bulk of his career,
• 51:24
  I think that's an integral part of Patrick Mahomes' success.
• 51:26
  And that's again what I was bringing up earlier, coaching a quarterback.
• 51:30
  That's one of them.
• 51:31
  That's one of the combinations, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
• 51:33
  Andy Reid has helped make who Patrick Mahomes is.
• 51:35
  He has all the skills in the world, but Andy Reid knows how to utilize them correctly.
• 51:40
  You know what I mean?
• 51:41
  No, 100 percent agree.
• 51:42
  And like Belichick and Tom Brady, you know, obviously the combination of the two, Tom
• 51:46
  Brady proved he can do it on his own too, but the combination of the two, you know what
• 51:50
  I mean?
• 51:51
  So I think, yeah, no, it's cool.
• 51:53
  It's cool.
• 51:54
  Yeah.
• 51:55
  Well, we'll move on.
• 51:56
  We'll get into our next segment here.
• 52:00
  Mr. Smelty, what's the Bonehead Move of the Week, sir?
• 52:04
  So Bonehead Move of the Week, I kind of I don't know.
• 52:09
  I guess the title is Michael Thomas is an ass clown.
• 52:13
  It was weird.
• 52:14
  So this story kind of actually surfaced right before they played the Vikings and he still
• 52:18
  played in the game and all that shit.
• 52:20
  But allegedly some weird parking dispute or something happened between Michael Thomas
• 52:25
  and some construction worker or whatever to the point where allegedly Michael Thomas saw
• 52:31
  a brick or something over here on the on top of whatever and started hooking him at this
• 52:36
  dude's truck and turned into this big deal.
• 52:39
  And now that now, you know, Thomas was arrested.
• 52:43
  But without incident, you know, he went in, took his you know, it's pretty much just a
• 52:47
  slap on the wrist.
• 52:48
  Plus, who knows the type of attorneys that these guys can afford?
• 52:51
  Like it's not going to end up being a big deal.
• 52:53
  But the reason why it's the Bonehead Move of the Week for me and then let me know.
• 52:59
  But like I get if you're frustrated or something, but like you got you still got to control
• 53:04
  yourself a little bit, right?
• 53:06
  Like now don't get me wrong, if he's disrespecting you or being racist or something crazy, right?
• 53:10
  Like you have every right to lose your freaking mind, in my opinion.
• 53:14
  But you know, like your job, right?
• 53:18
  You in your job and me in my position at my job.
• 53:21
  Like we still have to walk out this door and go be a professional and still, you know,
• 53:26
  our name is still attached to that company, whether we want it to be or not.
• 53:29
  I like that mine is.
• 53:31
  You probably do as well.
• 53:32
  I would agree.
• 53:33
  I mean, just like that.
• 53:34
  I got decals on my truck.
• 53:35
  Yes, I mean, that's what.
• 53:36
  But OK, there you go.
• 53:37
  Decals on your truck, though, right?
• 53:38
  So now when you're driving around, you're thinking about that.
• 53:41
  You know what I mean?
• 53:42
  It's the same deal, right?
• 53:43
  Yeah, you're representing a professional football team.
• 53:45
  But I think that's the same idea to me.
• 53:48
  So I don't know.
• 53:49
  What are your thoughts on the incident as a whole and then kind of that back that back
• 53:53
  end?
• 53:54
  No, I mean, I agree with you 100 percent.
• 53:55
  I mean, I think this was an easy bonehead move of the week.
• 53:58
  The crazy thing is, is that the contractor that was parked there, they're doing work
• 54:02
  on the neighbor's house across the street.
• 54:04
  There's nothing illegal about what the contractor is doing.
• 54:07
  There's no reason for Michael Thomas to worry about that car unless if he just cares that
• 54:11
  it blocks the obstruction of the fucking neighbor's house he's looking at.
• 54:14
  Right.
• 54:15
  Well, and then the thing was like he was frustrated about the car and then the guy started recording
• 54:19
  them.
• 54:20
  And then that's when Michael Thomas snapped, I guess.
• 54:22
  Like that's when he got real upset because he's like, dude, don't record me, which whatever.
• 54:25
  Right.
• 54:26
  Right.
• 54:27
  Right.
• 54:28
  And then like shove the guy and all this shit.
• 54:29
  That's why it's like technically assault, I think, like the lowest level version of
• 54:34
  assault.
• 54:35
  Again, which is probably gonna get thrown out.
• 54:36
  Right.
• 54:37
  It's a petty misdemeanor that Michael Thomas is going to pay that motherfucker 10, 15 grand
• 54:40
  and he's not going to get suspended for a game or nothing like that.
• 54:43
  Yeah, right.
• 54:44
  He violated the NFL's conduct policy.
• 54:47
  But again, that's some, you know, you technically work for the NFL.
• 54:52
  Like you're representing what the NFL stands for, which we could go into a whole pot and
• 54:56
  what we think the NFL stands for, good or bad.
• 54:59
  Right.
• 55:00
  But like, I think that could be a whole thing.
• 55:01
  But let's leave it alone.
• 55:04
  Let's leave it alone.
• 55:06
  But you know, I don't know.
• 55:08
  I think he did.
• 55:09
  I think, yeah, bonehead move of the week.
• 55:10
  I think he acted out of character a little bit for Michael Thomas.
• 55:14
  But I think part of that could be on field frustrations, the fact that he's really not
• 55:18
  the guy like he was.
• 55:21
  Even if he's in the lineup to me, he's not the guy anymore.
• 55:23
  So he's a starting receiver for the New Orleans Saints.
• 55:26
  You're one of you're you're in a position of one of 64 people in the world as a starting
• 55:31
  receiver on an NFL football team.
• 55:35
  You cannot make that decision and lose your control like that, whether it was justified
• 55:40
  or not in the modern day that we live in, you will be recorded, you will be found out.
• 55:46
  The thing about it, the funny thing, too, is like, you know, let's say he settles for
• 55:49
  10 grand.
• 55:50
  You know, the NFL PAs paying all the attorney fees to get this shit brushed under the rug,
• 55:55
  because again, it's a representation of the National Football League.
• 55:58
  Well, and again, that's another thing I was going to bring up is you haven't really heard
• 56:01
  a whole ton about it per se.
• 56:03
  Like it's out there.
• 56:04
  You can find it and stuff.
• 56:06
  But like everybody's just kind of in Joe Schmo on it.
• 56:09
  You're not really reading into it too much.
• 56:12
  States control yourself.
• 56:14
  Stay under control.
• 56:15
  Yeah, man, I'm 100 percent with you.
• 56:17
  I'm 100 percent with you.
• 56:19
  Well, let's get into the week 11 slate.
• 56:22
  We're going to start off with the Chargers traveling up to Lambeau Field, taking on my
• 56:27
  Packers.
• 56:28
  Chargers are a three point favorite in this game.
• 56:31
  Honestly, I really don't think the Packers have a fighting chance, man.
• 56:36
  It sucks to say, but the Chargers defense isn't great.
• 56:39
  They're good.
• 56:40
  I don't think our offense is worth any two shits as it's been well documented at this
• 56:45
  point.
• 56:46
  So we're not going to be able to move the ball.
• 56:47
  And if the Chargers are putting up, what was it, 38 points on the Lions?
• 56:50
  Yeah, yeah.
• 56:51
  What are they going to do to the Packers?
• 56:53
  Swiss cheese of a D. So saying that I'm taking the Chargers in this one, they're going to
• 56:57
  take that three points and they are going to cover.
• 56:59
  No, I hear you.
• 57:00
  I'm going to agree with you there as well.
• 57:01
  I think Chargers cover.
• 57:03
  Yeah, what again, like you said, what they did to the Lions defense last week, it took
• 57:08
  them a while to get going, though.
• 57:10
  So I think that's something to keep an eye on.
• 57:12
  I think the Packers need to take advantage of the Chargers potential slow start.
• 57:16
  Doesn't matter.
• 57:17
  The Packers have the worst slow, the worst starting, like slow starting in the history
• 57:21
  of the NFL.
• 57:22
  I know, that's what I mean.
• 57:23
  It's going to be probably six to three first half, if that, you know what I mean?
• 57:28
  Seriously.
• 57:29
  And then I think the Chargers do get the win in the second half.
• 57:31
  But it's yeah, I, you know, I don't know what I'm trying to say, I guess I had something
• 57:38
  else to say.
• 57:39
  But yeah, let's just Chargers get the win for me.
• 57:41
  Yeah, I think this can be a big breakout game for Austin Eckler hasn't really done too terribly
• 57:45
  much this year.
• 57:46
  You know, he's been hurt, came back last week with a limited role and the Packers.
• 57:50
  I mean, if we're letting up 200 yards rushing to the Steelers, what the fuck is Eckler going
• 57:54
  to do to us?
• 57:55
  And that offense really missed having Eckler.
• 57:57
  I mean, even even though this week I think he only went for like 30 yards or something,
• 58:01
  really not a lot.
• 58:02
  But like knowing he's back there and he can pop, he can pop some off anytime he really
• 58:06
  wants to.
• 58:07
  So definitely something to keep an eye on.
• 58:09
  And I remembered what I was going to say.
• 58:11
  I think the Chargers defense is not good, but it's good enough to beat the Packers offense.
• 58:16
  And I think the Chargers offense will dog walk the Packers defense, unfortunately, in
• 58:19
  the second half.
• 58:20
  Seriously, I'm in agreement with you, man.
• 58:23
  So we're going to move on to your Vikings traveling to Denver, taking on the red hot
• 58:28
  brought you can argue these are the two hottest teams in the NFL.
• 58:31
  The Denver go the Broncos go into this game is a two and a half point favorite.
• 58:34
  Who do you got in this one?
• 58:36
  Smeltzy?
• 58:37
  I think this one's going to be interesting.
• 58:39
  This is going to show you Dobbs outside in in the outdoor element for the first time
• 58:47
  since he's been in a Viking uniform because I played at Atlanta and then in Minnesota.
• 58:52
  Now we're going outside to Denver, which, you know, weather's hit or miss.
• 58:55
  It could snow that day and then melt later.
• 58:57
  So, you know, I'm obviously going to take my vikes, to be honest with you.
• 59:04
  I think Denver's little run, I guess you could call it, is going to stop stop this week.
• 59:10
  They're still a little off, but they're they're absolutely getting better.
• 59:13
  And I think I would imagine Sean Payton and Russell Wilson's relationship might be getting
• 59:18
  a little better.
• 59:19
  I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
• 59:20
  I'm taking Denver as the two and a half point favorite.
• 59:23
  That's fine.
• 59:24
  Go for it.
• 59:25
  I think Russell Wilson has kind of come back to his true form as of the last couple of
• 59:28
  weeks.
• 59:29
  And, you know, with their three game win streak, they didn't beat Scrubs.
• 59:32
  They beat Packers.
• 59:33
  That's one of them.
• 59:34
  That's a gimme.
• 59:35
  But they beat the Chiefs in the Bills.
• 59:37
  You know, now the Bills, I'm not sold on.
• 59:39
  They're looking pretty fucking awful right now.
• 59:40
  But beating the Chiefs is a big deal right now.
• 59:43
  It is.
• 59:44
  It is.
• 59:45
  Now, granted, Mahomes had the flu that game.
• 59:46
  He wasn't Mahomes.
• 59:47
  But nonetheless, I mean, when you get on a three game win streak, like the momentum that
• 59:50
  carries you go down to what's not mile high anymore, but it'll forever be mile high to
• 59:54
  me.
• 59:55
  Yeah, it's mile high.
• 59:56
  It's just like it's Hinesfield.
• 59:57
  It's not Acresha.
• 59:58
  No, yeah, it's Hinesfield.
• 59:59
  Yeah, bro, come on.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, no, I'm right there with you.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, so I think Denver's going to win this game by, you know, I think it's a touchdown
• 1:00:06
  game.
• 1:00:07
  I think it's a close game.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah, I think it's a touchdown game.
• 1:00:10
  And I think Dobbs is going to kind of come back to earth this week playing on those outside
• 1:00:12
  elements.
• 1:00:13
  That Denver defense is fucking good, man.
• 1:00:15
  No, it is.
• 1:00:16
  It is.
• 1:00:17
  And Patrick Surtain's a, I'm sorry.
• 1:00:19
  I mean, yeah, Patrick Surtain, he's a baller.
• 1:00:23
  That kid's a straight baller.
• 1:00:25
  He could eventually challenge, I mean, he could already be challenging Soss Gardner
• 1:00:29
  because Soss has kind of dropped off a little bit this year.
• 1:00:31
  I'm taking Surtain over Soss all day.
• 1:00:33
  I think Surtain's the best cornerback in the NFL right now.
• 1:00:35
  All right, fair.
• 1:00:37
  And like, I don't really have a ton of argument on that.
• 1:00:39
  I think Soss is still a great player, but I think Surtain could challenge him for that.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah, and it's, I think the big thing this week is if, if JJ does come back, how limited
• 1:00:50
  he's going to be, you're going to have Surtain on him.
• 1:00:53
  But I think if JJ comes back at even like a 50 to 75% roll, which I don't see happening,
• 1:00:58
  you know, that's going to, that's going to allow Surtain to go over to Jordan Addison.
• 1:01:01
  I don't want, I don't want JJ back unless he's a hundred percent straight up, especially
• 1:01:06
  with a hamstring.
• 1:01:07
  He won't be, there's no way he comes back and plays a full load.
• 1:01:09
  That's not the modern day NFL.
• 1:01:10
  They have the snap counts, the pitch counts, whatever you want to call it.
• 1:01:13
  And with how well, like you said, Addison will be covered by Surtain and with how well
• 1:01:16
  TJ has been playing, that's your guy this game.
• 1:01:19
  But now you got, but now you got, um, uh, what's his name?
• 1:01:23
  Jalen Naylor too, but nah, the other kid, uh, Powell.
• 1:01:27
  Powell's been starting to show up the last couple of games and he's a little shifty player
• 1:01:31
  too.
• 1:01:32
  You look at that Broncos defense, you got Pat Surtain taking out the number one corner,
• 1:01:35
  number one receiver.
• 1:01:36
  You got Justin Simmons back there taking out the tight end.
• 1:01:39
  Like Justin Simmons coming back to that defense, he was hurt in the first half or the first
• 1:01:42
  couple of games of the year.
• 1:01:43
  He's an integral part of that defense.
• 1:01:45
  That's the matchup of the game for me, TJ Hugginson and Justin Simmons.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah, I couldn't disagree.
• 1:01:49
  I think because TJ's dropped a lot of balls when he's covered heavy this year.
• 1:01:53
  So I think if he can come down with them, that's, that's the difference in the game.
• 1:01:57
  I agree.
• 1:01:58
  I agree.
• 1:01:59
  So we differ on that one.
• 1:02:00
  Let's move on to the next game.
• 1:02:01
  No, the next two games, AFC North matchups here.
• 1:02:05
  I think this week could play an integral part in how the AFC North unfolds this year.
• 1:02:09
  What a crazy division.
• 1:02:10
  I mean, in my opinion, it exactly is.
• 1:02:13
  I mean, in my opinion, it's, it's, it's not even remotely close.
• 1:02:16
  Hands down, the best division in football.
• 1:02:19
  So much fun to watch right now.
• 1:02:21
  So we have the Bengals traveling to Baltimore, taking on the Ravens.
• 1:02:24
  The Ravens are a three and a half point favorite.
• 1:02:26
  That honestly kind of surprises me that they're a three and a half point favorite after losing
• 1:02:30
  to the Browns last week.
• 1:02:31
  The Bengals are pretty hot right now.
• 1:02:33
  Joey Burrow looks like his normal self.
• 1:02:36
  But personally, I think the Ravens are going to bounce back this game and I have them covering
• 1:02:39
  that four and a half, three and a half points.
• 1:02:41
  I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you for once.
• 1:02:43
  Actually, I think the Bengals are going to be a little bit too much for the Ravens this
• 1:02:47
  week.
• 1:02:48
  I think the Ravens giving up the lead they did last week is extremely concerning.
• 1:02:54
  So I don't know.
• 1:02:55
  I think I just, my gut, I don't really have anything else to go off of for that game,
• 1:03:00
  but I think Joey B is just going to light it up.
• 1:03:04
  You know, it's hard to not make that the game of the week, but we're going to get to one
• 1:03:07
  a little bit later here.
• 1:03:08
  That definitely takes the cake for it.
• 1:03:09
  But what a week, what a slate this week, man.
• 1:03:11
  I mean, there was two or three other games we were kind of contemplating putting in here.
• 1:03:15
  We unfortunately have to include the Packers and Vikings.
• 1:03:18
  Well, we unfortunately have to include the Packers.
• 1:03:20
  I'm not going to say anything about the Vikings at this point.
• 1:03:22
  You can say unfortunately the Vikings.
• 1:03:23
  You're a Packer fan.
• 1:03:24
  Five game win streak, dude.
• 1:03:26
  Josh Dobbs, yeah, pastor not.
• 1:03:29
  That's potentially the story of the league if he keeps us up for this season.
• 1:03:33
  Like just crazy story, you know, of the year, like comes in, no practice time and just,
• 1:03:36
  you know.
• 1:03:37
  But pastor not, what are we going to say?
• 1:03:38
  That's my favorite nickname in the NFL right now, man.
• 1:03:40
  I love that shit.
• 1:03:42
  So we're going to transition on to the other AFC North matchup here.
• 1:03:45
  We have the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on the Cleveland Browns.
• 1:03:49
  Browns are a four point favorite in that game.
• 1:03:52
  What are your thoughts, man?
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, after the way to Sean Watson looked this week, I'm absolutely taking the Browns
• 1:03:57
  and they'll cover.
• 1:03:59
  I think this is where the Steelers season kind of stops.
• 1:04:03
  Don't get me wrong.
• 1:04:04
  I think every game they play the rest of the season will be competitive.
• 1:04:07
  I think the Steelers are close.
• 1:04:08
  I don't know really what they need next, to be honest with you.
• 1:04:12
  But I just, the Browns at home coming off of a big frickin win in Baltimore, like those
• 1:04:20
  fans are going to be ready.
• 1:04:22
  It's going to be a tough place to play.
• 1:04:24
  I think Cleveland covers.
• 1:04:26
  I'm in agreement with you here.
• 1:04:27
  I think the Browns are going to ride that momentum from last week to playing with that
• 1:04:30
  dog pound at home.
• 1:04:31
  This is, you know, traditional Steelers Browns football.
• 1:04:34
  It's going to be a hard nose, run orientated offense.
• 1:04:37
  I just don't see the Browns rushing for 200 yards this week against that Steelers defense.
• 1:04:41
  Oh, no.
• 1:04:42
  And the Browns defense is just simply too good for Kenny Pickett and that offense to get
• 1:04:47
  going.
• 1:04:48
  100%.
• 1:04:49
  And what I saw in Deshaun Watson last week, Ravens have a good defense.
• 1:04:51
  I think he's going to make a case here going towards the end of the year here of why he's
• 1:04:56
  deserving of that contract.
• 1:04:58
  And he's going to perform, man.
• 1:04:59
  Do you know who the Browns top corner is?
• 1:05:01
  Is it Greg Newsom or no?
• 1:05:02
  Denzel Ward.
• 1:05:03
  Oh, Denzel Ward.
• 1:05:04
  He's locking up Pickens.
• 1:05:05
  I mean, Pickens hasn't done two, we've been two shits this year.
• 1:05:07
  He had a decent game this past week.
• 1:05:09
  He had a decent game this past week.
• 1:05:10
  He had a couple catches.
• 1:05:11
  He had one good game.
• 1:05:12
  Where he actually knew where the sideline was this week.
• 1:05:15
  He's on my fantasy team, dog.
• 1:05:16
  He's had one good game this year.
• 1:05:19
  He's had one good game.
• 1:05:20
  Oh, no, I mean, he had a couple catches last week, but it's I just don't think that the
• 1:05:27
  Steelers can do it.
• 1:05:28
  I mean, if it was at Hines Field, it might be a little bit different.
• 1:05:31
  It's a little bit more of a 50-50 for me.
• 1:05:33
  I still don't think the Steelers win that game, but they might cover that four points.
• 1:05:36
  Playing in Pittsburgh's tough place, too.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, I see the in Pittsburgh, I see it as a field goal game.
• 1:05:41
  So I think that the Steelers would cover that four, but I mean, in Cleveland, the way the
• 1:05:44
  Browns are rolling right now, especially with that defense.
• 1:05:46
  Seven to ten point game?
• 1:05:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  I think it's going to be, I mean, I'm taking the, I don't know what the over under is in
• 1:05:53
  this game, but if it's under 45, I'm taking the under all day.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah, oh yeah, sure.
• 1:05:58
  All right, so that takes us to the last game on the slate here.
• 1:06:01
  The game of the week.
• 1:06:03
  We have the Philadelphia Eagles traveling down to Arrowhead and taking on the Kansas
• 1:06:07
  City Chiefs.
• 1:06:08
  The Chiefs being a two and a half point favorite here, Smelty.
• 1:06:12
  Two of the best teams in the NFL projected to be going into the season.
• 1:06:15
  Neither one has really disappointed.
• 1:06:17
  Who do you got, man?
• 1:06:18
  I mean, just...
• 1:06:19
  Super Bowl rematch.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, Super Bowl rematch, Super Bowl preview, question mark.
• 1:06:25
  Who knows?
• 1:06:26
  Could we see the same two teams in the Super Bowl again?
• 1:06:28
  Don't get me started.
• 1:06:29
  I think the 49ers and Eagles would be a ridiculously awesome NFC championship game right now, but
• 1:06:36
  Super Bowl preview maybe.
• 1:06:37
  I don't know, but to be honest right now, this is the game for me that will prove who
• 1:06:44
  the Eagles are this season.
• 1:06:45
  This is the one right here in Kansas City.
• 1:06:48
  Tough place to play.
• 1:06:49
  We all know.
• 1:06:50
  I mean, really any place is tough in the NFL to play unless you're shit, but I don't know.
• 1:06:56
  I take the Chiefs on this one.
• 1:06:57
  I think Patrick Mahomes and company are just too much.
• 1:07:00
  I think the Eagles defense has yet to do enough for me to trust them to beat the Chiefs right
• 1:07:07
  now, if that makes sense.
• 1:07:09
  I think the Eagles offense is there.
• 1:07:11
  I think they're going to be able to put up points on that Chiefs defense.
• 1:07:14
  No issue.
• 1:07:15
  But I don't know...
• 1:07:17
  I think it's going to be a shootout.
• 1:07:18
  I think it's going to be a shootout.
• 1:07:20
  But I take Chiefs.
• 1:07:22
  I agree with you, brother.
• 1:07:23
  I think it is going to be a shootout.
• 1:07:25
  I think these are two of the most high powered offenses in the NFL.
• 1:07:27
  I'm going to take the Chiefs in this one too.
• 1:07:30
  I think this is a field goal game.
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  So that's two and a half.
• 1:07:32
  Oh, what a game.
• 1:07:33
  Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  If it was even three, three and a half, I might reconsider, but two and a half points,
• 1:07:37
  I think this is a field goal game.
• 1:07:38
  It's going to be who comes down to that last possession.
• 1:07:41
  And I like this Chiefs team, man.
• 1:07:44
  They don't have the offensive firepower that they had in years before, but you got Travis
• 1:07:48
  Kelsey, you got Patrick Mahomes, and you got Isaiah Pacheco doing a pretty good thing back
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  there.
• 1:07:53
  I think the Chiefs defense is one of the best in the league.
• 1:07:55
  They've shown that.
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  They've proven that.
• 1:07:57
  I'm still not sold on that Philadelphia defense.
• 1:08:00
  I need to see more.
• 1:08:01
  That's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:02
  I just, I think they're legit.
• 1:08:04
  But like to what you're saying, I think we just need to see a little bit more.
• 1:08:07
  Yeah, we just need to see a little bit more before I can like fully confident they can
• 1:08:11
  take out.
• 1:08:12
  Now the game against the Cowboys, that was pretty impressive to me.
• 1:08:14
  You know, they won that game and I was impressed by that.
• 1:08:18
  They showed they could beat a top tier team.
• 1:08:21
  But this is, this is the game.
• 1:08:23
  You also got to keep in mind here, you got Andy Reid playing against his old team.
• 1:08:28
  That's always going to give him a little bit more juice and motivation.
• 1:08:31
  And who doesn't love seeing a Super Bowl rematch week 11 of the NFL season, man?
• 1:08:36
  Oh, man.
• 1:08:37
  And is it Sunday night or Monday night?
• 1:08:38
  I can't remember.
• 1:08:39
  Sunday night.
• 1:08:40
  Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  I mean, prime time.
• 1:08:42
  I mean, this is game of the year so far to this point, I'd reckon to say.
• 1:08:46
  But oh, man, I'm excited.
• 1:08:49
  I'll be watching this one for sure.
• 1:08:51
  Game of the year so far.
• 1:08:52
  I mean, it's pretty, pretty hands down to me.
• 1:08:55
  Well, Smelty, I had a blast here, brother.
• 1:08:57
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• 1:08:59
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• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:03
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• 1:09:06
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