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Member for Goyder Kezia Purick says if the NT Government don’t take on board the strong message from attendees of the weekend’s crime rally she expects they will lose the next election · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Independent member
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  Speaker 1: for Goiter Kesier Puric. Good morning to you, Keasier.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Katie Kezier.
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  Speaker 1: Lot's happening around the place this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've spoken a lot about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: thousands of people obviously converged on Parliament House on the
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  Speaker 1: weekend to rally against the issues that we're seeing with crime.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that Territorians are
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  Speaker 1: turning out in droves right now to try and have
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  Speaker 1: their voices heard by the government.
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  Speaker 2: Katie. When you have a company or in an association
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  Speaker 2: and you hold your annual general meeting, if things are
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  Speaker 2: going pretty okay and no one's got any issues, then
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  Speaker 2: hardly anyone turns up. It's like they come to how
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  Speaker 2: things are going. When there's a problem, everyone turns up
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  Speaker 2: to the AGM to voice their concerns, either pack the
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  Speaker 2: board or whatever. That's very similar to what's happening now
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  Speaker 2: and has happened on the weekend on Saturday. If community
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  Speaker 2: and people are fairly comfortable with the government, they just
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  Speaker 2: go about their business. But when they are really concerned
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  Speaker 2: have a real issue with the government, and all their policies,
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  Speaker 2: they will come out and protest. And that's exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you saw on Saturday. Thousands of people took the time out.
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  Speaker 2: Some people even close their businesses I knows in my
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  Speaker 2: area to come into the rally. So they took time
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  Speaker 2: out of their schedules. They're prepared to forego business just
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  Speaker 2: to sow their support published for Decklan and his family,
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  Speaker 2: but to send a strong message to government. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: Natasha Philes and the Labor government doesn't take anything away
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  Speaker 2: from that meeting, will more for them come August next
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  Speaker 2: year at the general election, because they.
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  Speaker 1: Will lose Kizia. From your understanding, and we spoke to
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  Speaker 1: the opposition leader a little bit earlier this morning about
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  Speaker 1: what is planned in Parliament this week. But from your understanding,
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  Speaker 1: is there anything happening on any kind of urgency in
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  Speaker 1: parliament this week from the government's perspective around the situation with.
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  Speaker 2: Crime, No, not at all, particularly not today, not tomorrow. Today.
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  Speaker 2: I think Leah said we've got a Care and Protection
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  Speaker 2: Bill to amend that legislation. Then we're going back to
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  Speaker 2: a statement that was in the last sitting building a
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  Speaker 2: better territory. Well, I've written my speech, but I keep
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  Speaker 2: adjusting it because I haven't had my chance yet. I
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  Speaker 2: keep adjusting it because if they're going to build a
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  Speaker 2: better territory, they're going to have to do something pretty
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  Speaker 2: fast and pretty thorough in regards to the level of
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  Speaker 2: crime in our community across all of the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that Mike Boyula and then the MULCA
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  Speaker 2: has got a matter of public importance. It's associated with
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  Speaker 2: crime and lawlessness and how to get a better outcome
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  Speaker 2: from rehabilitating young offenders. I heard that Lee wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do MPI. The best that she can do now is
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  Speaker 2: probably do it on the Thursday. And again it's focusing
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  Speaker 2: around bail. But no, there's nothing from government. There's no
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  Speaker 2: the legislation and ergency that I've said. They're reviewing the
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  Speaker 2: bail laws will woohoo, and the police are going to
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  Speaker 2: get more resources and you know that's good. And you know, Katie,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that that the government continually says, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're putting mots and lots of money into policing, Well
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  Speaker 2: that's not necess surely a good thing. That means we've
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  Speaker 2: got a serious problem on our hands.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I think you've mentioned it a nice mention it too.
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  Speaker 2: We have the highest percentage in the country of police
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  Speaker 2: per population. Now I wouldn't be proud of that. I'd
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  Speaker 2: say that's a sad indictment on our community. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: good that we need these police and good that police
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  Speaker 2: are there to protect all of us, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: been something i'd blote about. I'd say, you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we need these police is demonstrates that
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  Speaker 2: we've got a serious problem within our community.
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  Speaker 1: Now, speaking of those police numbers, we know that Kate
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  Speaker 1: Warden was on the show on Friday and during the
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  Speaker 1: week that was she said that there would be a
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  Speaker 1: review of police numbers, that it is going to be
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  Speaker 1: independent and it's going to happen before the next Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territory election. Kizia, Is that enough from your perspective?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not enough, Katie. Yes, it's comforting to hear
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  Speaker 2: the policemanister say it'll be an independent review and I
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  Speaker 2: take from that an independent or person outside of the
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  Speaker 2: police force, outside of the anti public service, who has
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  Speaker 2: the expertise and experience behind them to come in and
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  Speaker 2: review our policing. Not just for numbers. They should be
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  Speaker 2: reviewing everything associated with policing and numbers. That is the culture,
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  Speaker 2: and in Bracket's toxic culture, the attrition rate, that there's
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  Speaker 2: satisfaction with police, the lack of resourcing, the lack of
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  Speaker 2: funding into remote policing, even though the anti gament's talking
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  Speaker 2: with a common work in that regard. So it shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: just be a really narrow review because otherwise you'll only
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  Speaker 2: get the results that you tell the consultants you want.
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  Speaker 2: I asked the minister on radio last Friday, do you
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  Speaker 2: have an indication of how much this is going to cost?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you get an outside person, a private citizen,
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  Speaker 2: well they're obviously going to cost money. And I think
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they're going to do a review before
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  Speaker 2: election next year. Hello, that's nearly twelve sixty eighteen months away,
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  Speaker 2: which is a lot time. I've never heard of a
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  Speaker 2: review taking that long. Even a parliamentary review can be
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  Speaker 2: done in six months, you know. So it's fine to
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  Speaker 2: say we're doing it. We're doing it, so don't worry
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  Speaker 2: with anymore. The review needs to be pulled up within
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  Speaker 2: a six month time. I reckon get on with it.
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  Speaker 2: This eminently qualified people out there in this country who
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  Speaker 2: could assist. But the other thing Katie is in undertaking.
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  Speaker 2: To do this review. The government has to accept the
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  Speaker 2: recommendations that the review comes up with, because the last
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  Speaker 2: two O'Sullivan views into policing they didn't they didn't accept
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  Speaker 2: all the recommendations and they certainly didn't implement them what
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  Speaker 2: they did say they were going to implement. So enough
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  Speaker 2: enough are those reviews for people listening about ten years ago.
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  Speaker 2: So if they're going to do the disview, get on
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  Speaker 2: with business. Do the review, find a personal persons to
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  Speaker 2: do the review and start now. Don't have it an
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  Speaker 2: internal review. As I've said before, you'll get the outcomes
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  Speaker 2: that you want if you just do it internally. Flightlesses
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  Speaker 2: your own naval type of thing. So I say, get
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  Speaker 2: on with it, commit the funding, find someone and then
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  Speaker 2: just start talking to police and other stakeholders involved in
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  Speaker 2: the whole policing sort of area.
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  Speaker 1: TC. Can I ask just on another very different topic,
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  Speaker 1: we're hearing it the public galleries are closed in Parliament
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  Speaker 1: while while sittings are underway. Last week we'd heard whispers
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  Speaker 1: of that do you want to I mean in your
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  Speaker 1: role obviously as a former Speaker of the Northern Territories.
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  Speaker 1: So they just sort of assembly. What is your understanding?
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  Speaker 1: Are they closed?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a bit difficult to know because I know
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  Speaker 2: here the opposition leader did ask to speak and he
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  Speaker 2: said in the chamber and he said, no, the galleries
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  Speaker 2: are open. But when I went up to speak to
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  Speaker 2: go into the open face galleries, I couldn't. The gallery
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  Speaker 2: which has the school children in with the glass at
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  Speaker 2: the front, that's open. But it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's the galleries have to be shut. The galies have
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  Speaker 2: to be shut. And when I can't recall the existence,
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  Speaker 2: but it was some I think it might be industrial
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  Speaker 2: dispute or something to do with some union. We did
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  Speaker 2: take the steps of closing the galleries, but I just
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  Speaker 2: sent a no doubt to all members saying you have
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  Speaker 2: the galowes are being closed. You know, we're just taking
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  Speaker 2: downe our own risk assessment. We believe it's for the
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  Speaker 2: safety of members and anyone else in the gallery, so
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  Speaker 2: that Dallas will be closed for this time. Also in
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  Speaker 2: the past have to clear the gallery when I think
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  Speaker 2: there were some people have been are you four at
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  Speaker 2: six abortion drug? You know I've been disrespectful to members
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  Speaker 2: and I said leave the gallery. So the speaker can
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  Speaker 2: get people booted out of the gallery. So if the
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  Speaker 2: galleries are closed, that's fine, but just let all members
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  Speaker 2: know so we can tell family or friends or anyone.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Luck, everyone from mootes come in and have a look
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  Speaker 2: at Parliament. But you know they might want to sit
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  Speaker 2: in the open galleries because you get a better field
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  Speaker 2: behind the glass. So I don't know. Okay, there's mixed messages,
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  Speaker 2: so perps some might clarify that with the Speaker myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: closed within this week or was it just a one
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  Speaker 2: off last week?
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  Speaker 1: Well, let us know, let us know what you're here. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: before I let you go, just a very quick one.
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  Speaker 1: There's been a lot of interaction with our listeners this
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  Speaker 1: morning about the fact that the Attorney General Chancey Paik
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  Speaker 1: was in New South Wales on the weekend and appearing
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  Speaker 1: to campaign for the Labor Party throughout the New South
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  Speaker 1: Wales election, or certainly posing for photos with Linda Bernie.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of this? I think it's appropriate
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  Speaker 1: when you consider what's going on in the Northern Territory
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  Speaker 1: over the last week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, someone raised the issue about Scott Marrison
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  Speaker 2: going on a holiday to the Pacific somewhere. Everyone's entitled
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  Speaker 2: to have leave or to do whatever they think it
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  Speaker 2: is appropriate for the time in their lives. But it's
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  Speaker 2: not the look. It's the look that people take up on.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, clearly he can go down and help in
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales labor people, and he go anywhere for
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  Speaker 2: that matter, as I'm sure probably some other people from
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  Speaker 2: the churchy went and helped in New South Wale election.
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  Speaker 2: But it's the look, particularly given here's the Interney general.
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  Speaker 2: We've got issues with crime and law and order across
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  Speaker 2: the board. And as I understand it's not his fault
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  Speaker 2: that was Bushbise of course, but you know things within
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  Speaker 2: his own community, so you think every weekend would be
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  Speaker 2: precious to defend in his own town to help allay
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  Speaker 2: the fears and concerns of residence. So nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 2: doing okay, But it's the choice and the timing that
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  Speaker 2: that hasn't pleased listeners because they expect, particularly in tough times,
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  Speaker 2: you look to your leaders. You look to your leaders
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  Speaker 2: for guidance, you look to your leaders for direction, and
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  Speaker 2: it's one of your leaders is not here, then of
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  Speaker 2: course people are going to get cranky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Kesier puric. We always appreciate your time. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a message here. Gotta love Kezier telling it like
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  Speaker 1: it is. What a bloody legend. We need more of
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  Speaker 1: her unless blah blah, still not Keasi as mum.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, damn, my mom's on the
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  Speaker 2: phone again. I took it away from it for a week.
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  Speaker 2: You got put in the naughty corner, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Keezier, thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 2: As always, we'll talk to you soon.