Latest / UBS Trending / 2026 midterms: Markets and policy
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- 0:00While most investors remain broadly optimistic about the economy,
- 0:04the financial markets and their own portfolios,
- 0:07concerns about inflation, government debt, taxes
- 0:11and geopolitical tensions are shaping their financial decision
- 0:15financial decision-making.
- 0:16That's just some of what we learned from our latest Investor
- 0:19Watch survey.
- 0:20We talked to more than 1000 investors,
- 0:22500 business owners all across the US,
- 0:26and we'll be sharing what we learned right now
- 0:29on UBS trending.
- 0:43Welcome to UBS trending.
- 0:45I'm Bill Carroll, UBS Head of High Net Worth
- 0:47Strategy for Global Wealth Management in the U.S.
- 0:50And I'm excited today
- 0:51to have two experts here in the studio with me.
- 0:54First, Kurt Reiman, Head of Fixed income from our UBS
- 0:58Chief Investment Office, and Shane Lieberman,
- 1:01Senior Advisor in our Government Affairs team in Washington, DC.
- 1:05So welcome to both of you.
- 1:07And we're going to jump right in.
- 1:08I'm thrilled you guys are here today.
- 1:09I think it's a great topic.
- 1:11So Kurt and Shane, as you both know, we recently
- 1:14surveyed investors and business owners.
- 1:17We want to understand
- 1:18how they're feeling ahead of the midterm elections in November.
- 1:22So, of the investors, we surveyed 88%.
- 1:25Huge majority say the economy is number
- 1:28one on their minds this coming election.
- 1:31At the same time, 64%
- 1:34are highly optimistic
- 1:35about the US economy over the next 12 months.
- 1:39Yet concerns around inflation, government debt and taxes
- 1:43remain top of mind and continue
- 1:46to shape investors decision-making
- 1:49when it comes to which party they believe is better positioned
- 1:52to handle the economy.
- 1:53Investors are almost split down the middle between
- 1:56Democrats and Republicans.
- 1:59So, Shane, I'm going to start with you.
- 2:01What do you make of that dynamic?
- 2:03We have strong economic optimism
- 2:06alongside continued concerns.
- 2:09We have a really close divide over
- 2:10which party investors think can best manage the economy.
- 2:14What do we make of all this?
- 2:17Well, I think it reflects a few things.
- 2:18You know, start off with,
- 2:20investors seeing their balances, probably,
- 2:23at record highs or close to record highs,
- 2:26but there's unease in the economy.
- 2:29There are a number of issues,
- 2:31like, tariffs, the war,
- 2:34that bring about that are easing the economy.
- 2:37And I think those numbers reflect that.
- 2:40Our country is narrowly divided.
- 2:42We are
- 2:44both sides,
- 2:46are strong, have strong beliefs and are firm in their views.
- 2:49But also, we get our news
- 2:51from sources that are tailored, for our views
- 2:55and reinforce those views and continue to further
- 2:57divide us as a country when it comes to, politics.
- 3:02You know, it's really interesting.
- 3:04I mean, think about what we said before.
- 3:06We found that among business owners, 54%
- 3:10believe Republicans are better equipped to address the economy,
- 3:14and 46% say Democrats are.
- 3:17So with that
- 3:19background, Shane,
- 3:19what specific economic policies do you think voters
- 3:23are most concerned about in this election?
- 3:27I think cost of living is top of mind for voters.
- 3:30Some may, use
- 3:32the word affordability as as kind of a catch all umbrella,
- 3:36but it comes down to a few topical issues.
- 3:39You know, President Trump's trade and tariff policies.
- 3:43Some voters see that as increasing their prices,
- 3:47when they go to the grocery store and other places.
- 3:51Another one is the Iran war,
- 3:53which voters, when they go to the pump, will,
- 3:56see the Iran war as an increase in gas prices.
- 4:00And so they see that, you know, the country's spending,
- 4:04nearly $100 billion on the war, of their tax dollars.
- 4:08And then they have to pay higher, prices at the pump.
- 4:12It doesn't sit well with them.
- 4:13And finally, I would add in data centers.
- 4:16You know, while this is kind of a mixed issue about is it
- 4:19or is it not actually increasing electricity prices
- 4:22for consumers?
- 4:23Most consumers believe it is.
- 4:25And so perception may be reality.
- 4:28And so these three I think
- 4:30are pretty topical in that cost of living
- 4:32have a category right now.
- 4:34For voters.
- 4:37Shane, sounds like the way you describe that.
- 4:39It's a perfect opportunity
- 4:40based on the division between Republicans and Democrats
- 4:43for me to launch as an independent, what do you think?
- 4:47You know, I'm all on board for that Bill.
- 4:49All right. I've got one vote.
- 4:51So, Kurt, your team is just terrific in helping advisors
- 4:55and clients keep up to date on potential election scenarios
- 4:59and the CIO views related to policy implications.
- 5:03Election outcomes.
- 5:04The CIO Election Watch 2026
- 5:07series has been a phenomenal eight clients in phase.
- 5:10So based on your research, what can you tell us about
- 5:12how markets typically behave around these midterms?
- 5:17There's no real predictable,
- 5:20trend in either stocks or bonds around the midterms,
- 5:23but there are some observable averages that,
- 5:26looking back, data
- 5:27in the stock market that goes back over a century.
- 5:30So we have 25 examples of midterm elections over that past
- 5:33hundred years.
- 5:34And the bond market since the 1970s, starting with stocks,
- 5:38they tend to, perform less well
- 5:42in the second year of a presidential election cycle.
- 5:45And they also tend to trend sideways in the months
- 5:49leading up to the midterm,
- 5:50after which they tend to rise into the third year,
- 5:54which is actually the one of the best years
- 5:56of a presidential election cycle.
- 5:58We haven't exactly seen that play out this year.
- 6:01The stock market's up over 10%.
- 6:04But within the market where you see a large share of the S&P
- 6:07500 is down for the year and is being led by AI,
- 6:12may be telling us that it is fitting the historical pattern
- 6:16in the bond market.
- 6:16What you have is something altogether
- 6:19different than the stock market.
- 6:21What you have is yields tend to rise coming into the midterm.
- 6:25Oh, by the way, that's exactly what we're seeing this year.
- 6:28And volatility jumps also a similar echo to the past.
- 6:33I wouldn't necessarily use
- 6:35these as as measures for determining how to allocate a portfolio.
- 6:40These are almost just kind of interesting anecdotes
- 6:43because really what matters for markets
- 6:46is what's happening in the fundamentals.
- 6:49So where are earnings growth or is earnings growth headed.
- 6:52The picture on inflation and the economy Fed policy.
- 6:55Those tend to matter more to us.
- 6:58But also when you think about the election outcome this year,
- 7:02where we think it's moving
- 7:03from united government to divided government,
- 7:06that sets us up for a couple of years
- 7:08where there's going to be more policy paralysis as opposed to
- 7:12really big, sweeping legislative changes
- 7:15that could affect the fundamentals.
- 7:17So, I would say, yeah, here,
- 7:21some interesting observable historical trends and many
- 7:24of them are echoing today.
- 7:26But we want to
- 7:27we still want to advise our clients to stay focused
- 7:31on the fundamentals.
- 7:32And definitely, when there's that, tendency
- 7:36to want to think about going to cash if your party doesn't win.
- 7:41That that is one thing that we would want to push against.
- 7:43Also.
- 7:45You know, as you mentioned, so valuable for our clients
- 7:48to lean on the financial advisors for advice and guidance
- 7:51at a time like this.
- 7:52And I hope you're right about the third year
- 7:54Republican or Democrat, I think we'd all like to see a good third
- 7:57year of returns in the presidential year.
- 8:00Okay, building on that.
- 8:02So let's get back to the Investor Watch survey.
- 8:04It shows that inflation concerns
- 8:06have more than doubled since the 2020 midterm,
- 8:09with 57% of investors highly worried
- 8:12versus 25% in 2020.
- 8:15So rather than waiting for certainty,
- 8:18we know that nine out of ten investors are considering
- 8:21making portfolio changes before the election.
- 8:25Now, given that, how should investors
- 8:27be preparing for what they consider
- 8:31and how they position their portfolios for what lies ahead?
- 8:34Yeah, you know, getting back to the point that Shane
- 8:37made about cost of living being at the top issue
- 8:40facing voters, it's
- 8:41no surprise
- 8:42that inflation concerns are also at the top of the poll.
- 8:45And this idea that so many investors,
- 8:48because 90% are looking, to make changes in their portfolio
- 8:52before the election,
- 8:53I wonder if that has more to do
- 8:54with just the current state of affairs in the global economy
- 8:58and all the changes that we've seen.
- 9:00The massive back up in bond yields,
- 9:02inflation is still above target.
- 9:04A lot of geopolitical concerns, especially around the Iran war.
- 9:08That's keeping oil prices elevated.
- 9:10Fed policy
- 9:11from the beginning of the year
- 9:12moved from expectations of rate cuts to now
- 9:15looking for not just a few rate cuts, rate hikes,
- 9:18but maybe even more than that.
- 9:19So there's a lot going on that could
- 9:23lead to investors wanting to make changes.
- 9:26And it may even be a good time.
- 9:29What we would want to maybe
- 9:31caution against is making changes just because it's an election
- 9:34that's coming,
- 9:35but rather
- 9:36thinking about some of the opportunities that may have emerged
- 9:38or where you could protect your portfolio from risk.
- 9:41Now, what I look and find in the bond market
- 9:44that's really quite exciting is, you know, we're talking about 5%
- 9:48yields, around the five year part of the curve.
- 9:52So you don't have to take a lot of interest rate risk
- 9:54to get a portfolio that if you then blend in
- 9:57some credit risk with investment grade corporates, you're
- 10:01building a portfolio that's getting you 6% income.
- 10:05When can we look back in the last ten years and say
- 10:08we had this type of an opportunity.
- 10:11So we're
- 10:11and it also gives you a little bit of ballast in the portfolio.
- 10:15Now on the stock side of the ledger.
- 10:18Yeah I think there are some renewed concerns about growth
- 10:22because the Fed is raising interest rates
- 10:23and oil prices are high
- 10:25and investors are worried about the economy.
- 10:27But what's been driving the stock market.
- 10:29It's been mostly AI investment.
- 10:31And that investment to us seems pretty secure.
- 10:34And the earnings forecasts coming into next year, which
- 10:37although they may decelerate,
- 10:38they're still at a pretty healthy level.
- 10:40And you know, multiples haven't gotten more expensive.
- 10:45They have contracted.
- 10:46So we find some good opportunities in the stock market as well
- 10:49that just means reverting to cash.
- 10:52Now, even though cash yields have risen with the Fed,
- 10:55raising rates isn't the it shouldn't be the reflex.
- 11:00Reaction coming into an election
- 11:02where people may be concerned that,
- 11:04you know, everything has changed.
- 11:06You know, the the result in Congress is different.
- 11:09Therefore, I need to, you know, batten down the hatches.
- 11:12I think, you know, still, we want to focus on the fundamentals
- 11:15and, and look for opportunities, not take,
- 11:18you know, not be heroic. Yeah.
- 11:19I mean, like, in the bond market. Sure.
- 11:21You can get a little bit higher
- 11:22yield by going out the yield curve, but we don't need to do that.
- 11:25So you know, singles and doubles can win ballgames.
- 11:31And I think that's, that's where we are here,
- 11:33in our investing, preferences.
- 11:36You know, you make such a great point about clients
- 11:38needing to rely on their financial plan
- 11:41and not doing things, not having knee jerk reactions
- 11:44and doing things that maybe they shouldn't.
- 11:46Sometimes the best thing to do
- 11:47is nothing, right, as we've learned. Yeah.
- 11:49So Shane, let's talk about again, everything seems to focus
- 11:53at least attention from the investor on the upcoming election.
- 11:55If the balance of power shifts in either the House or the Senate,
- 12:00what specific policy priorities do you think
- 12:03have the biggest impact?
- 12:05I think the biggest impact will be on two issues.
- 12:07One, federal spending to the debt ceiling for federal spending.
- 12:12You know, Republicans have increased spending for defense
- 12:15the past few years, but have held, the line
- 12:18on other areas of social spending,
- 12:22spending in things like highways, etc..
- 12:24So I think Democrats would use their leverage,
- 12:28to say
- 12:29to President Trump and Republicans,
- 12:31if you want to keep increasing, defense spending,
- 12:34we need,
- 12:35equal amounts of increases in other social, domestic spending.
- 12:39So that would be, I think, number one.
- 12:41Number two is the debt ceiling.
- 12:43The debt ceiling, needs to be increased.
- 12:46If it's not, it'd be cataclysmic for the markets.
- 12:49And so Congress has always increased the debt ceiling.
- 12:53But what we've seen in the past few go-arounds is,
- 12:56you know, when, President Biden was in office,
- 13:00Republicans were able to extract,
- 13:03demands in, in order to, agree to increasing the debt ceiling.
- 13:07And I think Democrats,
- 13:09if they control either House and/or Senate,
- 13:11they would have demands, President Trump
- 13:14to increase the debt ceiling.
- 13:15And they would use this leverage, to
- 13:19to bring out some policy changes, whether that be, reversing
- 13:23the Medicaid, cuts from the, one
- 13:26big, beautiful bill or other spending.
- 13:29They will not miss this, opportunity.
- 13:34Terrific perspective.
- 13:36Shane, thank you so much.
- 13:37And I think, folks, great conversation.
- 13:40We're going to leave it here.
- 13:41Thank you,
- 13:41Kurt, Shane, for offering your political and macro views
- 13:45on the investor
- 13:47and business owner surveys related to the midterm elections.
- 13:50Terrific insight.
- 13:51And for more insight, please read the detailed investor
- 13:54watch surveys at ubs.com/investorwatch
- 14:01and also visit ubs.com/electionwatch
- 14:06watch for the latest CIO research on the midterms.
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- 14:16And as always, if you have any questions about your portfolio
- 14:20or anything we discussed today or any financial matters,
- 14:23please speak with your trusted financial advisor.
- 14:27Have a great day everyone, and remember,
- 14:30keep your eyes on what's trending.