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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 0:04Speaker 1: six forty.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Bill Handle here. It is a Taco Tuesday, May twelfth.
- 0:11Speaker 2: This is a topic that Anne sent to me and said,
- 0:14Speaker 2: you've got to cover this, Okay. It's out of the
- 0:16Speaker 2: Atlantic magazine Atlantic dot com and it talks about misogyny
- 0:21Speaker 2: and it connects misogyny and the American right and saying
- 0:26Speaker 2: it's actually the single most important force holding the right,
- 0:29Speaker 2: the fundamental right together. And it gets kind of interesting
- 0:34Speaker 2: because the article talks about Douglas Wilson is a co
- 0:38Speaker 2: founder of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches based in Idaho,
- 0:42Speaker 2: Shaker and he's been doing it for fifty years and
- 0:46Speaker 2: what he does is disseminate his theocratic vision for the
- 0:50Speaker 2: United States. He has a publishing house of School is
- 0:52Speaker 2: a liberal arts college video streaming service. Now, the domination
- 0:57Speaker 2: or the denomination Communion of Reform and Evangelical Churches basically
- 1:04Speaker 2: says women aren't worth crap has one hundred and seventy churches.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is a member. As a matter
- 1:15Speaker 2: of fact, he was invited to lead a prayer service
- 1:17Speaker 2: at the Pentagon and It's kind of interesting about all
- 1:22Speaker 2: of this, that the concept of misogyny that women are
- 1:28Speaker 2: not they should be subservient to men, and then the
- 1:31Speaker 2: argument of there should be one household vote and that
- 1:35Speaker 2: is the man's decision. I mean, I never would imagine
- 1:38Speaker 2: that happened. I mean, and keep in mind, we went
- 1:40Speaker 2: from the Me Too movement into discussions, serious discussions about
- 1:46Speaker 2: women being subservient to men and not even having the
- 1:50Speaker 2: right to vote. I mean, it is crazy, crazy stuff.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So look, I want to share with you what happened.
- 1:56Speaker 2: A few Saturday goes. Jim Keeney had a birthday party
- 2:00Speaker 2: and I went to it with Lyns and I have
- 2:03Speaker 2: him to sit next to a guy who used to
- 2:04Speaker 2: listen to this show and lives in Texas and is
- 2:08Speaker 2: a very religious, right wing individual. Has a flagpole at
- 2:15Speaker 2: home with a big American flag it flies every day.
- 2:18Speaker 2: And we were talking about this and he didn't try
- 2:20Speaker 2: to throw his religion at me or anything. So it
- 2:22Speaker 2: was a really good conversation, but it was a straight
- 2:25Speaker 2: ahead women should be subservient to men, and I'm going, wow, really,
- 2:33Speaker 2: And he came up with the biblical references and how
- 2:36Speaker 2: God wants all this to happen. I mean, he went
- 2:38Speaker 2: in a minutia. And you can take the Bible and
- 2:41Speaker 2: do anything you want with it. For example, the whole
- 2:44Speaker 2: concept of women being subservient, that men should be on
- 2:48Speaker 2: top of the social heap is basically based on one.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Line in the Bible.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Wives submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do
- 2:56Speaker 2: to the Lord. Okay, did it same thing that the
- 3:01Speaker 2: serpent people do in the Bible. It talks about the
- 3:05Speaker 2: serpent talking to Jesus. Okay, then they play around with
- 3:09Speaker 2: rattlesnakes and cobras and get bit and die. And that's
- 3:14Speaker 2: what God intended. I mean, let's just say this is
- 3:16Speaker 2: kind of nuts.
- 3:17Speaker 3: It really is.
- 3:18Speaker 2: And so if you look at the Bible, by the way,
- 3:20Speaker 2: it's very selective.
- 3:23Speaker 3: What is it onon spilling the seed?
- 3:26Speaker 2: God telling you if you're going to choke the chicken,
- 3:29Speaker 2: you are committing a massive sin. By the way, regarding
- 3:34Speaker 2: that subject, there are only two kinds of men in
- 3:36Speaker 2: this world. You're aware of that, men who do choke
- 3:39Speaker 2: the chicken and liars. That's basically it. But that is
- 3:43Speaker 2: a different subject at a different time. And how about
- 3:47Speaker 2: let's go to the Ten commandments. Okay, you know, you
- 3:52Speaker 2: mix linen and wool death. You covet your neighbor's wife,
- 4:00Speaker 2: think about stooping your neighbor's wife. Don't do anything about it,
- 4:04Speaker 2: don't ask her, don't leave little notes. Hey baby, how
- 4:08Speaker 2: about next Saturday night when your husband's out of town.
- 4:11Speaker 3: None of that.
- 4:12Speaker 2: You just covet death. You eat pork death. Okay, that's
- 4:20Speaker 2: a little tough, isn't it.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:22Speaker 2: You can take parts of the Bible and you do
- 4:24Speaker 2: whatever the hell you want for it with it. But
- 4:27Speaker 2: this movement, and it is a movement, by the way,
- 4:30Speaker 2: and it is a growing movement because now and it
- 4:33Speaker 2: used to be once again, and I've said this before,
- 4:37Speaker 2: this used to be under the purview of guys standing
- 4:39Speaker 2: on street corners with bullhorns, or these crazy, crazy evangelists
- 4:47Speaker 2: and churches. God, I love the ones with the serpents
- 4:50Speaker 2: and the rattlesnakes and the kobas and the venomous snakes
- 4:53Speaker 2: as they dance around and they talk in tongues and oh,
- 4:58Speaker 2: it's fantastic stuff. They scream and they rant and they
- 5:02Speaker 2: rave and then they get bit and die and it's
- 5:05Speaker 2: wonderfully entertaining.
- 5:06Speaker 3: I absolutely love it.
- 5:07Speaker 2: But then again, that's taking one little piece of the
- 5:10Speaker 2: Bible and backing it all up and saying, this is
- 5:13Speaker 2: why I believe this, because God is telling me. God
- 5:17Speaker 2: wants women to be subservient. And when I was talking
- 5:21Speaker 2: to this gentleman, it was a great conversation. By the way,
- 5:26Speaker 2: he said, not only did God in ten women to
- 5:28Speaker 2: be subservient, And I said, but you make all the
- 5:31Speaker 2: decisions right when discussing this, You make the decisions. She
- 5:35Speaker 2: has to pay attention to the decision you make. She
- 5:39Speaker 2: has no say oh no, I pay attention to what
- 5:43Speaker 2: she says.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Yeah. But in the end, there's nothing.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Equal about your relationship. Well, this is what God intended.
- 5:50Speaker 2: And again quoted that Bible section and somehow was able
- 5:57Speaker 2: to spin the Bible in that not making the decisions
- 6:02Speaker 2: and not letting the women do is out of respect
- 6:04Speaker 2: for the woman.
- 6:06Speaker 3: And I'm going, what, it's out of respect for a woman.
- 6:11Speaker 2: That's like a conversation I had with a rabbi one
- 6:14Speaker 2: a Habodnik rabbi and women in the Jewish religion, it
- 6:18Speaker 2: is a very patriarchal religion. It goes back four thousand years,
- 6:22Speaker 2: so women are crap. Basically in the fundamentalist Orthodox Jewish community.
- 6:26Speaker 2: They are not allowed to go to the Beama, the
- 6:31Speaker 2: stage up there where you know the Yeah, I guess
- 6:34Speaker 2: it's the stage where the Torah is kept, and they
- 6:37Speaker 2: are not allowed to read from the Torah. Only men
- 6:40Speaker 2: are allowed to do that. Women cannot be rabbis, women
- 6:43Speaker 2: cannot be canters, women cannot get into the building when
- 6:48Speaker 2: they're on their period because it's considered unclean. I mean,
- 6:51Speaker 2: the rule after rule. So I asked the rabbi and
- 6:54Speaker 2: I said, what are you guys doing? You know, women
- 6:57Speaker 2: are treated like crap. How do you possible say that
- 7:01Speaker 2: women are not allowed to even read from the Torah,
- 7:05Speaker 2: the Five Books? How come they're not allowed to even
- 7:08Speaker 2: read from it in front of the congregation Because we
- 7:12Speaker 2: respect women too much, because they are at such a
- 7:16Speaker 2: high level that God wants us to meet their standards.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Women don't have to read, women don't have to be
- 7:26Speaker 2: rabbis because they are above that. And I look at him,
- 7:30Speaker 2: I go and then I offer him a sausage sandwich.
- 7:32Speaker 3: And it didn't work out very well.
- 7:35Speaker 2: A form of misogyny that is now being argued is
- 7:39Speaker 2: a single most important for us holding together the American right,
- 7:43Speaker 2: and it comes out of the Atlantic and talks about
- 7:46Speaker 2: Douglas Wilson, who wants to repeal the nineteenth Amendment, which
- 7:49Speaker 2: gave women the right to vote. As I've often said,
- 7:52Speaker 2: that was the worst day in the history of the
- 7:53Speaker 2: United States. The problem is this guy means it. He's
- 7:57Speaker 2: co founder of the Communion of Reform Armed Evangelical Church
- 8:02Speaker 2: based in Idaho, got one hundred and seventy churches that belonged.
- 8:06Speaker 3: To his group.
- 8:08Speaker 2: And what I really like about him is, well, he's
- 8:12Speaker 2: come a long way. He joined hippie congregation out of
- 8:16Speaker 2: the Navy. He liked to play guitar. He ended up
- 8:19Speaker 2: leading the services there once the regular pastor moved on,
- 8:23Speaker 2: and then he ended up going to the different side.
- 8:28Speaker 2: And for more than two decades he's been airing opinions
- 8:31Speaker 2: on unruly women, as he calls them, small breasted biddies, herodins,
- 8:38Speaker 2: lumber jack dykes, Jezebel. And I'm even going to tell
- 8:43Speaker 2: you what he once referred to Gloria steinem and another feminist,
- 8:46Speaker 2: because that one would put us in a lot of trouble.
- 8:48Speaker 2: By the way, that was the polite version. And every
- 8:51Speaker 2: year he celebrates no Quarter November because women should not
- 8:57Speaker 2: be given equal status as men. Now, this is important
- 9:01Speaker 2: stuff because it is part of the movement. I think
- 9:03Speaker 2: it's part of the fabric of where America is going
- 9:05Speaker 2: and has gone to, and that is it's something called masculinism, masculinity,
- 9:11Speaker 2: mascue lenism. It went from being a fringe belief system
- 9:16Speaker 2: to now it's a big, big deal and it brings
- 9:20Speaker 2: together a group of pastors, posters, senators, preachers, influencers, podcasters, fanboys.
- 9:27Speaker 2: One of the big fans is Pete Hegxith, who believes
- 9:31Speaker 2: in this, which is kind of crazy.
- 9:34Speaker 3: And here's the argument.
- 9:35Speaker 2: What these men are upset about is their own loss
- 9:39Speaker 2: of status in society over the last years and to
- 9:43Speaker 2: the elites who made it happen. And elites happen to
- 9:46Speaker 2: be pro women. See how that works. It's the women
- 9:49Speaker 2: who took over the status. Now, it's an interesting combination,
- 9:53Speaker 2: and it is an interesting ladder. How when from one
- 9:56Speaker 2: to the other. And here's the way you look at it. Historically,
- 10:01Speaker 2: for decades, each feminist advance in American public has actually
- 10:05Speaker 2: prompted a backlash, and I mean a strong backlash. Women's
- 10:10Speaker 2: suffragette movement where women got the right to vote. Look
- 10:14Speaker 2: at the anti that they fought with. Look at that
- 10:17Speaker 2: and you think that's just to let women vote? How
- 10:21Speaker 2: crazy is that? And did it really take an amendment
- 10:25Speaker 2: to make that happen? Even today you can't get the
- 10:28Speaker 2: Equal Rights Amendment or the Women's rights Is that the
- 10:32Speaker 2: Equal Rights Amendment I think to pass? And we went
- 10:36Speaker 2: to where was it tit? Title nine against sex discrimination
- 10:42Speaker 2: and others? Well, that was a huge fight. Remember Philis
- 10:45Speaker 2: Shaffley who fought against the ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment.
- 10:50Speaker 2: And then the twenty tens where the waight of corporate
- 10:54Speaker 2: America swung behind slogans like the future is female. The
- 11:00Speaker 2: backlash happened pretty quickly, and so the Me Too movement,
- 11:04Speaker 2: which gave women a tremendous amount of power. Have you
- 11:07Speaker 2: noticed its disappeared? It's basically gone. So here's what you
- 11:13Speaker 2: look at. You've got a declining share of men in
- 11:16Speaker 2: higher education, stagnant wages for non college educated men, gaming.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Porn which is basically always.
- 11:24Speaker 2: There, and they're out of that comes Matthew leninism.
- 11:30Speaker 3: God, I am horrible at this word.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Out of misogyny, and on the internet it's presented as
- 11:36Speaker 2: a rebellion well, it's a lot more than that. It
- 11:41Speaker 2: is a way of thinking, and it's tough to be
- 11:45Speaker 2: a woman. I get in these conversations with Lindsay all
- 11:48Speaker 2: the time, and she is adamant, and something will happen
- 11:51Speaker 2: and she'll look at me and goes, it's tough to
- 11:53Speaker 2: be a woman. You'll never understand. You will never understand
- 11:57Speaker 2: the move against abortion. By the way, a lot of
- 12:00Speaker 2: people perceive that as anti women. Well, I look at it.
- 12:04Speaker 2: I think the majority view it as on a religious
- 12:07Speaker 2: or moral ground. I think the anti abortion people have
- 12:11Speaker 2: a moral position. I mean, I disagree with it, but
- 12:14Speaker 2: they do have a moral position that I think should
- 12:19Speaker 2: be accepted. The rest of it, I think they're nuts,
- 12:22Speaker 2: you know, the anti LGBTQ rights crowd.
- 12:25Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, where are you going with that? Just
- 12:27Speaker 3: leave me alone? Right?
- 12:29Speaker 2: But you know, the Bible says that a godly woman
- 12:32Speaker 2: is a husband's crown. Yeah, it does, back to the
- 12:38Speaker 2: Ten Commandments. You mix wool and Linnen, you're going to die.
- 12:42Speaker 2: You can't do that. Covet your neighbor's wife. You're going
- 12:45Speaker 2: to die. Neil, you're sort of half an expert on this.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Isn't there something about if you stoop your neighbor's cow
- 12:54Speaker 2: is also a sin where you die in the Bible.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Are you asking the question for yourself?
- 13:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I am not, because I don't have any
- 13:03Speaker 2: neighbors that have cows. I do have neighbors dogs, but
- 13:06Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in that direction.
- 13:08Speaker 4: They move, they were tired tired of finding you on
- 13:13Speaker 4: their cows.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's I mean, you can, you can, you
- 13:16Speaker 2: can grab anything. I was talking while you were gone
- 13:18Speaker 2: about the line about serpents where these churches take with
- 13:23Speaker 2: one line about speaking with serpents, and all they do
- 13:26Speaker 2: now is tongues that they dance around with ro rattlesnakes
- 13:30Speaker 2: and cobra and then they get bitten and then they die,
- 13:32Speaker 2: and it's all part of God's plan. I mean, you
- 13:34Speaker 2: can do anything with the Bible.
- 13:37Speaker 4: And yeah, but it doesn't it doesn't make it true
- 13:43Speaker 4: or it doesn't put it in context. There's something called
- 13:46Speaker 4: hermoneutics where the harmony of it hermoneutics, hermaneutics is the
- 13:51Speaker 4: harmony of the intent context.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Is that hermaeutics and uh well not herman nudics. Oh okay,
- 14:02Speaker 2: I never heard of herman.
- 14:04Speaker 4: New Diks hermaeudics yes, there's a lot you haven't heard of.
- 14:08Speaker 2: That's so true. Okay, we're done, guys. It's a Tech Tuesday.
- 14:13Speaker 2: They're on KFI and today Mike Dubuski on Tech Tuesday,
- 14:18Speaker 2: ABC News Technology reporter out of New York. Mike, thanks
- 14:23Speaker 2: for joining us as you often do. Hey, big Google event,
- 14:29Speaker 2: coming a developers event, Google Io, and I know it's
- 14:32Speaker 2: a huge deal. Would you please talk about it and
- 14:34Speaker 2: tell us what's going on?
- 14:35Speaker 3: Sure?
- 14:36Speaker 1: So Google Io is Google's annual developer conference. And a
- 14:39Speaker 1: good way to think about this is if Apple usually
- 14:43Speaker 1: shows off hardware devices, Google likes to show off software,
- 14:46Speaker 1: right Like this is the software celebration of the year
- 14:49Speaker 1: for Google. They invite developers from the app world, from
- 14:53Speaker 1: the enterprise world, all to Mountain View, California at their
- 14:56Speaker 1: headquarters and they basically show off kind of what the
- 14:59Speaker 1: next generation of their software is going to look like.
- 15:03Speaker 1: So in Google's world, that means that we're going to
- 15:05Speaker 1: today get a look at Android seventeen, which is the
- 15:09Speaker 1: next generation of the most popular smartphone operating system in
- 15:13Speaker 1: the world, which is Android. Of course, runs on more
- 15:15Speaker 1: than just Google Pixel devices. It runs on Samsung and
- 15:18Speaker 1: Sony and OnePlus devices and it's hugely popular and what
- 15:22Speaker 1: happens in that space has big reverberations around the world
- 15:25Speaker 1: when it comes to smartphones, so some interesting updates are
- 15:29Speaker 1: expected there. We are also expecting Google to maybe a
- 15:32Speaker 1: little surprisingly spend some time on Android x R. This
- 15:36Speaker 1: is their software that underpins specifically virtual reality headsets. Google
- 15:42Speaker 1: has been kind of plugging away at this for a
- 15:44Speaker 1: little while. They have been sort of mixing, you know,
- 15:47Speaker 1: both the VR where you strap a full headset to
- 15:50Speaker 1: your your head and then you can kind of just
- 15:52Speaker 1: look at screens but feel like you are immersed in
- 15:55Speaker 1: a virtual world. They've also been working on mixed reality
- 15:58Speaker 1: where you put on a pair of glasses and it
- 15:59Speaker 1: over verlay's digital content on the world around you. They
- 16:03Speaker 1: have a platform for that that is also going to
- 16:05Speaker 1: go into other sort of Samsung devices and x real
- 16:09Speaker 1: devices and other things like that. So they are not
- 16:12Speaker 1: forgetting about the virtual reality space either. But of course
- 16:15Speaker 1: it would not be a tech event without talking about
- 16:18Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, and that's probably gonna be the big thrust
- 16:21Speaker 1: of IO this year. Google Gemini is there branding for
- 16:25Speaker 1: their generative artificial intelligence technology, and you can expect this
- 16:29Speaker 1: year a Google rather to focus specifically on what's called
- 16:32Speaker 1: agentic AI. This is specific flavor of artificial intelligence that
- 16:38Speaker 1: has some degree of agency. Right, it can go out
- 16:40Speaker 1: and do things for you, like book you a hotel
- 16:44Speaker 1: or order you groceries off the internet and that sort
- 16:47Speaker 1: of thing. It's kind of been the exciting new outgrowth
- 16:49Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence in the last year or two, and
- 16:52Speaker 1: no one's really been able to make it work in
- 16:54Speaker 1: a way that makes money for them. But Google's certainly
- 16:57Speaker 1: going to try and take a run at it.
- 16:58Speaker 3: This week. VR World I used to hear a huge
- 17:02Speaker 3: amount of the future. It's almost like it's disappeared.
- 17:07Speaker 2: And is it because AI has just taken over everybody's attention,
- 17:12Speaker 2: or in fact VR is not as popular, or the
- 17:15Speaker 2: growth is much smaller than anticipated.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I think all of that is somewhat true. I mean,
- 17:21Speaker 1: if you rewind back to twenty twenty one, it was
- 17:24Speaker 1: always the metaverse that we were talking about, right. This
- 17:27Speaker 1: was back when Facebook rebranded itself as Meta, centered around
- 17:31Speaker 1: this idea that the next iteration of computers were not
- 17:35Speaker 1: going to be laptops or smartphones, but they were going
- 17:37Speaker 1: to be headsets. Right, it was going to be us
- 17:39Speaker 1: strapping on a meta quest or you know, an Apple
- 17:42Speaker 1: Vision pro and going to work and hanging out with
- 17:46Speaker 1: friends in these sort of virtual worlds. And the idea
- 17:49Speaker 1: was that this new generation of computers was going to
- 17:52Speaker 1: be able to do something that our existing computers could
- 17:54Speaker 1: not do, which is convey a sense of presence. Right,
- 17:57Speaker 1: And of course this was all tied up in, you know,
- 17:59Speaker 1: the the sort of lingering pandemic at the time when
- 18:02Speaker 1: we were all working from home and you know, putting
- 18:04Speaker 1: a lot of energy into Zoom calls and that sort
- 18:06Speaker 1: of thing, and you know, Zoom school, which kind of sucked.
- 18:09Speaker 1: And the idea of having presence of you know, being
- 18:12Speaker 1: able to feel like you're in a room with a
- 18:14Speaker 1: person who's actually sitting halfway around the world was kind
- 18:17Speaker 1: of attractive. However, there's some just logistical problems with that, right,
- 18:21Speaker 1: this idea that you would need to buy a VR
- 18:24Speaker 1: headset and understand how to use it. Some people felt
- 18:26Speaker 1: sick being immersed in these virtual worlds because it didn't
- 18:29Speaker 1: totally line up with how their body, you know, functioned
- 18:33Speaker 1: in the world. Do you want to buy a computer
- 18:35Speaker 1: that messes up your hairstyle? Questions as simple as that
- 18:38Speaker 1: kind of torpedoed. The metaverse, however, still exists to some degree,
- 18:42Speaker 1: and again as a you know, an example, Google is
- 18:46Speaker 1: planning to make some announcements with regards to their efforts
- 18:48Speaker 1: in this field. But I think it's fair to say
- 18:51Speaker 1: that it is a much more niche thing than was
- 18:53Speaker 1: being talked about five years ago.
- 18:55Speaker 3: All right, Mike, thank you.
- 18:57Speaker 2: It's always great information, greatly appreciated. Who is the agency
- 19:01Speaker 2: news technology reporter out of New York and who appears
- 19:05Speaker 2: with us right here on KFI occasionally. Okay, hey, we're
- 19:10Speaker 2: going to end with the world of travel agency. Now,
- 19:13Speaker 2: travel agents were a dying breed, or you think they were.
- 19:17Speaker 2: I mean commissions. You know, the airlines at one point
- 19:19Speaker 2: used to pay ten percent commission they sold an airplane
- 19:22Speaker 2: ticket an airline ticket.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Not anymore.
- 19:25Speaker 2: And so because the Internet, specifically, travel agents were gone.
- 19:31Speaker 3: The Internet.
- 19:31Speaker 2: I mean you've got Expedia, you have Kayak, you have Various,
- 19:37Speaker 2: you got Travago with hotel reservations. I mean, travelations are
- 19:42Speaker 2: sort of eh, you don't need them anymore, except you do.
- 19:47Speaker 2: And the travel industry is growing like crazy. The travel
- 19:51Speaker 2: agency building industry is going Why because travel agents can
- 19:56Speaker 2: offer insider information. They know the field. Quick example, I'm
- 20:01Speaker 2: going to Africa at the end of the year and
- 20:05Speaker 2: I'm doing a safari and yeah, they're expensive, and yeah,
- 20:10Speaker 2: this is where I spend my money. Okay, thank you.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Certainly not on clothes, I go to Costco. Certainly not
- 20:15Speaker 2: on food. I go to Costco, and certainly not at
- 20:18Speaker 2: expensive restaurants. For me, it's the cheesecake factory is the
- 20:22Speaker 2: end all be all for very special dinners. So my
- 20:26Speaker 2: disposable income is travel. So I went to a travel agent.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Why well, because which company do I go with for tours?
- 20:36Speaker 2: Which camp do you go with on safari? Now you
- 20:39Speaker 2: can read reviews, but reviews do they really help you
- 20:42Speaker 2: as opposed to someone you know and says yes, I've
- 20:46Speaker 2: been there, and I've talked to people that have been there,
- 20:49Speaker 2: and I know the ins and outs, and I, for example,
- 20:54Speaker 2: you know, where do you go to find the nearest
- 20:56Speaker 2: tribe that shrinks heads?
- 20:59Speaker 3: Headshrinker?
- 21:00Speaker 2: We're not talking about psychologists, We're talking about real headshriekers.
- 21:05Speaker 2: I mean it takes people who know the lay of
- 21:08Speaker 2: the land. And that's why travel agents do are doing
- 21:13Speaker 2: as well as they can because right now between AI
- 21:15Speaker 2: and basically the Internet itself.
- 21:20Speaker 3: You can.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Literally, you know, create itineraries from scratch, the hotels, the tours,
- 21:27Speaker 2: the restaurants, but you're not going to get that real
- 21:30Speaker 2: inside stuff, that human touch, because in the end, the
- 21:34Speaker 2: human touch is everything.
- 21:36Speaker 3: And this is we've talked about that in AI.
- 21:39Speaker 2: We've talked about how zoom meetings aren't the same because
- 21:44Speaker 2: there's no real connection there. Same thing goes through the
- 21:47Speaker 2: world of travel agency. So okay, I'll buy that. I've
- 21:52Speaker 2: been a big fan of travel agents. I use and
- 21:54Speaker 2: you don't pay usually unless you have a very high
- 21:56Speaker 2: end specialized one, because the cruise line pays, the hotel pays.
- 22:01Speaker 2: So the travel agent gets screwed or the company gets
- 22:04Speaker 2: screwed because they have to pay fifteen percent or twelve
- 22:06Speaker 2: percent or eight percent of the travel issue. But it
- 22:08Speaker 2: doesn't cost you money. You know you're gonna pay the
- 22:11Speaker 2: same So it makes a lot of sense. Let someone
- 22:14Speaker 2: else really do the work for you, and that's what happens,
- 22:17Speaker 2: especially cruises. Cruises they make a lot of money, tour packages,
- 22:20Speaker 2: they make a lot of money. When it comes to
- 22:22Speaker 2: airline reservations, you're on your own. They're not gonna help
- 22:26Speaker 2: you because they don't make any money doing it. All right, guys,
- 22:29Speaker 2: we are done. Garyan Shannon are up next. Tomorrow we'll
- 22:33Speaker 2: talk about what happened today in the primaries across well,
- 22:39Speaker 2: across the South for sure, and also talk about our
- 22:43Speaker 2: war in Iran that's not going to happen, may happen.
- 22:47Speaker 2: We don't know if it's going to happen. We'll find
- 22:49Speaker 2: out several times today.
- 22:51Speaker 3: That's it.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Tomorrow we start all over again, same group, same channel,
- 22:54Speaker 2: same station, same time.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Ah, there you go. Amy's maing me the two thumbs up. Yeah,
- 23:02Speaker 3: let's do it again tomorrow. Yeah, absolutely, all right, jumping
- 23:06Speaker 3: up and down. He's so excited.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:08Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Last time I got two thumbs up is when I
- 23:11Speaker 2: saw two pratologists simultaneously. I don't know why I said that.
- 23:14Speaker 2: By the way, that is a horrible thing to say.
- 23:16Speaker 2: So let's just end it at that. Is that?
- 23:18Speaker 3: Okay? KFI AM six forty
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