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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chaos at Donald Trump's DOJ. Officials are ramping up revenge
- 0:04Speaker 1: probes in the wake of Attorney General Pam Bondi's firing.
- 0:07Speaker 1: The Washington Post reporting quote uncertainty at DOJ as top
- 0:11Speaker 1: officials vie to replace Bondi, prompting quote concern from some
- 0:16Speaker 1: over the lengths to which they may go to impress Trump.
- 0:20Speaker 1: MAGA favorites Harmeet Dlon and former Fox News host Janine
- 0:24Speaker 1: Piro have both made moves that are quote viewed by
- 0:27Speaker 1: insiders as efforts to raise their profile and jockey for
- 0:31Speaker 1: the President's attention, like this one initiated by Dylan, who
- 0:35Speaker 1: currently oversees the DJ's Civil Rights Division, demanding all Detroit
- 0:39Speaker 1: area ballots from the twenty twenty four election. She wrote,
- 0:43Speaker 1: DOJ wants the twenty twenty four ballots so it can
- 0:45Speaker 1: determine whether election laws were followed.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Fact check there is.
- 0:49Speaker 1: No evidence of widespread voter fraud in any recent presidential election,
- 0:53Speaker 1: that includes twenty twenty four, which Trump ended up winning,
- 0:57Speaker 1: by the way. In fact, while he lost Detroit in
- 1:00Speaker 1: twenty four, he made gains with voters there over his
- 1:03Speaker 1: performance from twenty twenty, So this all part of Trump's
- 1:08Speaker 1: sweeping effort to probe past elections. As he doubles down
- 1:12Speaker 1: on his quote big lie FBI director Cash Ptel making
- 1:16Speaker 1: the unusual announcement that arrests related to the twenty twenty
- 1:20Speaker 1: election are now imminent.
- 1:23Speaker 3: We've got all the information we need. We're working with
- 1:26Speaker 3: our prosecutors, the Department of Justice and the Attorney General
- 1:28Speaker 3: Todd Blanche and we are going to be making arrest
- 1:32Speaker 3: and it's coming and I promise you it's coming soon.
- 1:36Speaker 1: And now one of the lawyers involved with trying to
- 1:38Speaker 1: overturn the twenty twenty election, Joe di Genova, is leading
- 1:42Speaker 1: a quote grand conspiracy probe into former federal officials who
- 1:46Speaker 1: investigated Trump, reaching all the way back to the Russia
- 1:49Speaker 1: probe in twenty sixteen. Didgenova sworn in just hours ago
- 1:53Speaker 1: as counselor to the Attorney General. Trump's retribution probes have
- 1:57Speaker 1: been largely unsuccessful, scrutiny from both legal experts and career
- 2:03Speaker 1: officials rejected by grand jury's. A senior federal prosecutor in
- 2:08Speaker 1: Miami withdrawing from an investigation into former CIA director John Brennan,
- 2:13Speaker 1: reportedly due to concerns over the legal viability of the
- 2:17Speaker 1: politically charged case pushed by Trump loyalists. All of this
- 2:22Speaker 1: escalating ahead of what's sure to be a contentious mid
- 2:24Speaker 1: term election cycle. Is Trump works to erode faith in
- 2:28Speaker 1: our electoral system. It's always good to see you. What
- 2:32Speaker 1: is your response to Trump's doj now escalating the probes
- 2:35Speaker 1: into past elections? And I particularly want your thoughts on
- 2:39Speaker 1: the figure that is Joe d Genova. What that signals
- 2:42Speaker 1: to you, a person who's been so deeply invested in
- 2:46Speaker 1: the big lie leading an investigation where he has already
- 2:50Speaker 1: publicly concluded that there was a conspiracy.
- 2:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, right out of the gate, he's got
- 2:55Speaker 4: a conflict of interest.
- 2:57Speaker 2: He represented President.
- 2:58Speaker 4: Trump in his personal capacity when he was challenging the
- 3:01Speaker 4: results of the twenty twenty election.
- 3:03Speaker 2: And now here he is, after having made.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Some really outrageous statements at that time, leading the charge
- 3:09Speaker 4: into this investigation. There's not even a pretense of credibility here.
- 3:14Speaker 4: I mean, we know that there have been a number
- 3:17Speaker 4: of investigations into Russia's connections with the election in twenty
- 3:22Speaker 4: sixteen that began the Russia investigation. There was Robert Muller's report,
- 3:27Speaker 4: there was a Senate Intelligence Committee report, there was one
- 3:29Speaker 4: by our own Intelligence committee, there was an Inspector General report,
- 3:33Speaker 4: and finally there was John Durham, who was the Special.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Council appointed by William Barr.
- 3:38Speaker 4: None of them found that there was any conspiracy, that
- 3:41Speaker 4: there was anything wrong with looking into this. In fact,
- 3:43Speaker 4: having read and studied the Muller Report, I assigned it
- 3:46Speaker 4: to my students in my national security class. It would
- 3:49Speaker 4: have been a dere election of duty for the FBI
- 3:52Speaker 4: not to have investigated Russia's ties with the election in
- 3:56Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.
- 3:57Speaker 1: So, Barbara, when you look at all of the chaos
- 3:59Speaker 1: that is coming out of this DOJ and the FBI
- 4:02Speaker 1: right now, do you read the moves that these different
- 4:05Speaker 1: people are making as being sort of desperate attempts to
- 4:10Speaker 1: stay in the president's circle at a time when he
- 4:13Speaker 1: is starting to release people from his cabinet. We hear
- 4:15Speaker 1: the reporting that he's interested in firing more people. Cash
- 4:19Speaker 1: Betel's one of the people who's come up at times
- 4:21Speaker 1: in that reporting, for example. And so are they just
- 4:23Speaker 1: kind of trying to make Trump happy because they know
- 4:25Speaker 1: this is sort of part of his list of greatest hits,
- 4:28Speaker 1: or do you think there's a real project building here
- 4:30Speaker 1: from the retribution campaign to what we're seeing on the
- 4:33Speaker 1: election front.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Well, it's always dangerous, I think, to try to speculate
- 4:37Speaker 4: and what's in the minds of either Donald Trump or
- 4:39Speaker 4: any of the people that he has appointed to office,
- 4:42Speaker 4: because I don't know that they think like the.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Rest of us.
- 4:44Speaker 4: But it is certainly a pattern that we saw the
- 4:47Speaker 4: firing of Pam Bondy. Some of the reports indicated that
- 4:51Speaker 4: President Trump was frustrated with her inability to charge his
- 4:55Speaker 4: political enemies criminally, and so as soon as she leaves
- 4:59Speaker 4: and now there's this fan and a need to find
- 5:01Speaker 4: a replacement. Suddenly we see Todd Blanche issuing a weaponization
- 5:05Speaker 4: report that to me seems baseless about prosecutions under the
- 5:10Speaker 4: Face Act involving abortion clinics.
- 5:13Speaker 2: We see Harmy Dillon.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Launching an inquiry into Michigan about fraudulent ballots when there
- 5:19Speaker 4: are none.
- 5:20Speaker 2: It's been dispositively considered by courts.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Here in Michigan, and so this too seems like an
- 5:24Speaker 4: effort to sort of curry favor. And then, of course
- 5:27Speaker 4: the so called Grand Conspiracy in Florida, where there's an
- 5:31Speaker 4: effort to subpoena people and perhaps charge people and installing
- 5:37Speaker 4: Joe Degenova after we see the departure from this case
- 5:41Speaker 4: of a career prosecutor amid reports that she didn't see
- 5:44Speaker 4: that the case.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Was strong enough to bring.
- 5:47Speaker 4: So I don't know the motivations, but we do seem,
- 5:50Speaker 4: I think, to see an intensification of these efforts to
- 5:55Speaker 4: file criminal charges or make some hay. And even if
- 6:00Speaker 4: if these cases don't see the light of day, if
- 6:03Speaker 4: there are no criminal prosecutions, people are talking about it.
- 6:05Speaker 4: It's in the news, and so it just advances that
- 6:08Speaker 4: false narrative that our elections are rife with.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Fraud and cannot be trusted.
- 6:14Speaker 4: And I worry about what that means for the twenty
- 6:16Speaker 4: twenty six and then maybe even the twenty twenty eight elections.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I hear from voters all the time
- 6:22Speaker 1: that they are interpreting it that same way. They're concerned
- 6:24Speaker 1: about the upcoming midterm elections being undermined. I have to
- 6:28Speaker 1: ask you very quickly about this bombshell reporting from the
- 6:31Speaker 1: Atlantic about Cash Betel, just to get your assessment of
- 6:35Speaker 1: what the FBI has essentially become. Of course, he has
- 6:39Speaker 1: denied this. The most striking section of this reporting. I
- 6:42Speaker 1: know our viewers have heard so much about it today,
- 6:44Speaker 1: But it is the section where they describe essentially officers
- 6:48Speaker 1: needing to use sort of swat style efforts to bust
- 6:51Speaker 1: through to try to get to Patel. They describe someone
- 6:55Speaker 1: who has been drinking incredibly heavily, something that we know
- 7:01Speaker 1: the President, who does not drink, does not like in
- 7:04Speaker 1: the people around him. But when you just see the details,
- 7:08Speaker 1: the depth of the details in this report, what do
- 7:10Speaker 1: you think the FBI has become.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Well, obviously I don't know whether these reports are accurate,
- 7:16Speaker 4: but I will note that the sources quote dozens of
- 7:19Speaker 4: people across all parts of interactions with the FBI, and
- 7:25Speaker 4: the reporting seems sound. Of course, cash Pttel has challenged
- 7:28Speaker 4: it and claims it is defamatory.
- 7:29Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's true.
- 7:31Speaker 4: But if it is true, this is such a farfall
- 7:34Speaker 4: from what the FBI.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Was when I worked with agents.
- 7:37Speaker 4: You think about the epitome of the FBI director was
- 7:40Speaker 4: Robert Mueller, someone who was Ramrod Strait, who was a
- 7:45Speaker 4: person who worked hard, rolled.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Up his sleeves, and served with honor.
- 7:49Speaker 4: And you know, one of the goals I've always heard
- 7:51Speaker 4: at every level of the FBI is don't ever do
- 7:54Speaker 4: anything in your personal or professional life that could.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Bring shame to the FBI.
- 8:00Speaker 4: That is the FBI way that you do things, not
- 8:02Speaker 4: only the right thing, but you do it the right
- 8:04Speaker 4: way and for the right reason. And so if these
- 8:07Speaker 4: reports are true that we've got a director who is
- 8:11Speaker 4: not just drinking on duty, but drinking to the point
- 8:13Speaker 4: where he's unable to do the job, not only is
- 8:16Speaker 4: that bringing shame to the FBI, but it is making
- 8:18Speaker 4: our entire country unsafe.