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Matthew Maher: Israel vs. Iran - Political Conflict Or Prophetic Plan? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Friends, thank you so much for joining us.
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  Great podcast today.
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  We're ready to unleash with our good friend and brother, author and pastor, Matthew
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  Mayor.
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  And you can go to the website truthovertrend.com, that's truthovertrend.com.
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  He's got some exciting things happening, we're going to bring him right in and have him
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  tell us about it.
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  Brother, good to see you.
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  Thanks for your time.
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  David, thank you as always to you and your audience for the opportunity to address the
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  issues of our day that matter most from a biblical worldview.
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  Your name of your podcast and your show says it all.
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  Praise God.
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  And I occasionally catch you, part of a sermon or part of a talk you're giving or part
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  of a post.
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  I really appreciate your voice.
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  You know, maybe I might not look it, but you're a lot younger than me.
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  And so you're good for the younger generation, good voice, good voice of truth and role
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  model.
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  So I appreciate your voice as a pastor as well.
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  And so thank you for all you do.
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  So before we get into a new devotional that you have out, you've got a new development
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  that just happened in your family.
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  Tell us about it Matthew.
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  Yes.
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  So before we talk about a publication, we of course, my wife and I are celebrating the
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  arrival of our third child, our second son on June 16th.
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  We welcomed Malachi Joseph Mayer to our world and navigating a family of five, even in
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  those few short weeks that we have had him has certainly been different.
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  My wife, I don't know how she does it, but she has been a rock star through and through
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  and being in full-time ministry with plenty of responsibilities in my schedule.
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  I've had to slow down a little bit and tend to the family.
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  That is my primary ministry, my marriage and my family.
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  But yes, everyone says Malachi is my copy and paste and that is also true of my son Ezekiel.
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  And Zeki, we call him, he wanted to name his baby brother Zeke Jr.
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  So he immediately took ownership and I was like, I don't know how that's going to work
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  out.
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  Zeke and Zeke Jr.
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  But hey, he's doing a great job loving on his little baby brother.
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  All right.
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  So Zeke and Malachi, man, you're blessed brother, you're blessed.
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  And by the way, for people that haven't seen you before and maybe our newer viewers, tell
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  us about your church words at and the website where you're preaching.
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  Yes, our church is located in Ocean City, New Jersey.
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  It is called Landmark Church.
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  People can find out more about that at thelandmark.church.
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  Not.org.
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  Not.com.
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  It's dot church.
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  So thelandmark.church has been pastoring here for the past 10 years.
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  It's an amazing community of believers and we're just trying to hold down the fort of
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  truth on the east coast with many other pastors across our land that are ringing the bell
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  of truth and trying to call the church back to that final and firm ground that Jesus established
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  when he said, I will build my Ecclesia.
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  Boy, what you just said, calling the church back, I think there's unfortunately a big portion
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  of the church in America that needs to be called to him in the first place.
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  That's right.
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  They aren't really living and preaching and acting as biblical Christians.
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  But anyway, we've talked about that before.
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  So next, I want to give you props for coming out with a devotional.
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  See what I did there?
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  Well, people don't know yet because they don't know what we're talking about.
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  But you've got a brand new one over at truthovertrend.com.
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  It is Proverbs and Psalms.
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  It's a 365 day devotional.
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  There it is.
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  Tell us about this and this is in a series called Core Conviction Series.
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  Tell us about that.
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  It's book four.
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  Yes.
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  So the Core Conviction Series is exactly what it says.
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  Core Convictions need to be strengthened and bolstered by the truth of God's words.
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  So book number one was entitled, imprisoned by peace.
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  And the subtitle was a view apart.
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  And that is, of course, out of Philippians 4, 6 and 7, where the peace of God guards the
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  heart and mind.
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  So we don't give anxiety, worry, fear or any lie, any access to our hearts and our minds.
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  The Shalom peace of God guards the heart and mind.
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  That is a view apart.
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  And then book number two is called Unchained.
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  And the subtitle is a voice apart.
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  And the inspiration was the word of God is not chained.
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  Paul was chained when he wrote that verse, but the word of God cannot be chained.
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  So that book talks about our voice being set apart to be used by God regardless of our
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  circumstances.
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  Book three is entitled, let us pray, a plea apart.
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  And I took what is I believe wrongly known as the Lord's Prayer, which is Matthew 6.
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  The Lord's Prayer is John 17, right?
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  That's right.
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  So John 17 is the Lord's Prayer.
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  Matthew 6 is our prayer.
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  So I took our prayer as it's prescribed and wrote a prayer book more or less, biblical
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  prayers, how to model prayer and what that looks like in our faith walk.
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  And that's the plea apart.
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  And then book number four stands alone.
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  It's called Props and there was some word plays going on.
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  The subtitle is Proverbs and Psalms apart.
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  And I took the first three letters of Proverbs, P-R-O, and the first two letters of Psalms,
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  P-S. And I put them together because those two books, David, if you were to ask even nonbelievers
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  what their favorite books of the Bible are, they would say Psalms and Proverbs.
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  They're familiar with that.
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  So I wrote a devotional one day at a time where you look at the same Proverb or the same
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  Psalm two days in a row.
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  So day number one, you're looking at that Proverb, I'm giving you biblical commentary on it,
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  but the goal is to contemplate it, to think deeply about it.
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  And then day number two, same exact verse, but now I'm challenging you to cultivate it.
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  So instead of rushing through a 365 day devotional where you're giving a lot of verses, day by
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  day, and those are good.
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  I took my time, I chose choice Proverbs and Psalms, hence props what props us up on our
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  leaning side, like a Bikes kickstand.
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  And we need to be those that lean on the truth of God's Word.
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  So I hope the devotional style reading is helpful to anyone that would be looking for
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  a solid go-to for a jump start to their day.
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  Some, you know, you said it right.
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  Some devotions are good, there are some that, as you say, they just, you know, throw
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  a verse out, talk about it, move on to the next one.
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  I like the way you did that from what you're explaining.
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  So you can get it at truthovertrend.com under books or on Amazon.com, correct?
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  Correct.
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  Yes, thank you so much, David.
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  Yeah, well, you're most welcome.
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  So, so this is a series, this is book four, are you going to book five or when does the
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  series end?
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  It's never ending.
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  It's like scrolling through social media.
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  No, I will conclude with a book five.
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  I have multiple ideas in my mind, and this might shock your audience unless they saw
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  the show we did when you first brought me on.
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  This was months ago that most of these books were written when I was an inmate of the state
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  from 2010 to 2014, which gives rise to that meaning of core conviction.
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  I was an inmate under conviction.
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  But obviously the greater conviction in my life was when the Lord got my undivided
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  attention.
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  So I wrote multiple manuscripts in that season, and I have to choose the fifth and final
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  to the core conviction series.
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  So once I get more time, I'll be able to give my attention to it.
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  So friends, I want to remind you, I just sometimes I do forget.
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  We mentioned it earlier, Matthew's been on before several times, but if you missed his
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  testimony that he shared, may have been the first podcast, if not the first it was
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  the second.
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  But I think it was the first.
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  So go to worldviewmatters.tv and the upper right, if there's a search bar, just type in
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  Matthew Mayer, M-A-H-E-R, and you can get all his episodes there.
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  Go to the first one, amazing story.
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  He was in prison.
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  You can get the whole story on why, what happened, and now look at, he got out really earlier
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  than you thought or than you expected or that was originally planned, right?
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  You got out of prison?
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  Long story short, in New Jersey, the charge that I had came with 85% mandatory time, and
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  the gift of 15% is more or less, if you don't get an intending trouble, then you have an
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  early release.
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  So I did 85% of a five and a half year sentence that was four years and seven months.
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  And again, I would love your listeners, your audience to check that out because saying
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  it like I was in prison, a lot of people might have the wrong impression.
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  Of course, what I did was egregious and terrible, but that's what God allowed and used
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  to get my undivided attention.
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  And of course, we serve a God who redeems.
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  And the way he redeemed my life, it is only the miraculous that can give any explanation
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  to it.
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  Amen, brother.
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  So, yeah, friends, you need to hear the whole story.
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  If you don't know, it is inspiring.
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  It is eye opening and to look what God has done in your life.
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  You are truly a new creation, brother.
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  And he is using you.
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  He chose you to go and bear fruit.
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  I mean, he chooses all of us, right?
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  But you answered the call.
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  A lot of people don't, you know, some people just want to do their own thing.
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  So anyway, good stuff.
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  Anything else before we wrap up the thought here on the new devotional, anything else you
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  want to share for wisdom, I just love, I read a Psalm in a proverb every day.
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  Sometimes I don't get through a whole one.
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  It's proportions, but I'm in that every day before I read it, the New Testament or whatever,
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  whatever else is on your heart about the devotional or Psalms and proverbs.
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  Yes, I'm actually teaching through the book of Psalms during our midweek service on Wednesday
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  evenings and last night was Psalm 27.
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  And I began by stating this, and I think it's applicable to anyone that calls themselves
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  a Christian, that we should discover what the Lord is doing in our hearts first.
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  What is He doing in my life, in my heart?
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  And then partner with the Holy Spirit in that work.
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  Don't delay that work, partner with Him in that work.
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  And then the next layer, every Christian should be looking at what is the Lord doing in
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  my church, my local community, and participate in it.
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  So discover what He's doing in your heart, partner with Him in it, look out at the community
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  that you are part of, see the work that He's doing there, participate in it, and then this
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  is the layer that you address on a daily basis.
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  Look and see what God is doing in the world.
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  And point to it, point other believers to it that we would be brought to the attention
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  of what God is doing in the earth.
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  And I think if the church does those three things from the heart to their local community,
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  to what God is doing globally, there you have the Psalms, Psalm 27 specifically coming
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  to life, regardless of what's happening around us, David.
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  Yeah, and I want to mention, it's very good, there's a lot of wonderful Bible believing
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  Christians.
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  As you know, the biblical worldview is declining.
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  It's like, I mean, the trajectory is not good in America.
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  And in churches, there's a remnant of solid, just God fearing men and women in Christians.
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  However, there is a portion of that group that are serious, doctrinally sound, they're
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  true believers, but they have become consumers in a way, whether that's Christian music,
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  and which is, which a lot of it is turned into entertainment, unfortunately, or whether
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  it's going to conferences.
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  Now, conferences are good.
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  I've spoken at conferences.
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  You have to conferences are good, prophecy conferences, all these different conferences.
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  But you can get wrapped up into that and go into these conferences just to get the
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  head knowledge.
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  And then what are you doing, Christian?
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  What are you doing outside of church, Monday through Saturday?
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  What are you doing outside of the conference in the application of salt and light and what
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  we should be trying to save souls, wake people up?
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  What are your thoughts on that before we move on, Matthew?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, we live in a culture of consumerism, and that is the plague of the American church,
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  right?
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  Feed me more.
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  And it's like, our church can be so spoiled with messages from Sunday to Sunday, from
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  Wednesday to Wednesday, and yet we're not applying that word to our lives.
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  So what do we do?
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  We look online, we sign up for the next conference, for the next seminar, we buy the next book,
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  and you've already said it.
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  We encourage all those avenues, but they're supplemental to the application of our personal
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  faith and our personal Christian walk that, like James wrote, be doers of the word, not
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  hears only.
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  And so many in the church are hears only.
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  And of course, we live in a day and age where when truth is projected and presented from
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  the pulpit, there's a lot of people that are offended by it.
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  And I think that's one of the ways the Lord is purging His bride as of late.
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  So the Bible tells us that we are headed towards a remnant.
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  There's always a remnant, and God never leaves Himself without a witness.
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  And we're living in a day and age where the witness of the church, that voice is getting
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  louder because the times are getting darker and you're seeing people fall by the wayside
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  or go apostate because they can't handle the way the truth is being presented.
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  So we live in incredible times and we need the Bible to be our lens.
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  Amen.
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  And we are here for such a time as this.
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  I know it kind of sounds canned or cliché, but it's so true.
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  I believe it.
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  You can follow.
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  Yeah, Matthew.
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  You can follow Matthew on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, X, YouTube, truth over trend.
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  I've got his Facebook page up here.
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  But before we take a really brief pause and we're going to come back friends.
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  We're going to talk about Israel and Iran and the conflict there.
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  Is it political or is it part of Bible prophecy?
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  We'll talk about that great, very brief, but pointed blog you put up a post on that.
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  I want to mention the devil's playbook because that I still love that book.
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  Brother, you you had me at you had me at the four plays from Nazi Germany currently at
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  play in America, discerning the devil's playbook.
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  It's very short.
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  You guys can get it.
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  Get a couple copies.
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  Give it as a gift.
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  We talked about that a few podcasts ago with Matthew Mayer.
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  So with that, we'll take a break, come back, we'll talk about Israel and Iran that's next.
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  All right, friends.
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  This is an area where Matthew and I were talking before we got on the podcast.
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  He put this out for a reason and I like the fact that more pastors and more churches
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  are talking about this because unfortunately, there is some ignorance and even biblical
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  ignorance on where the church stands when it comes to Israel.
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  Now, I had a guest on last week or a week and a half ago that I didn't agree with all
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  of his views.
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  I saw that.
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  Yeah, you know, so there were some things where we don't always see eye to eye, but I personally
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  believe unless it's egregious and not if they agree on the essentials of the faith, I
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  don't believe in breaking fellowship.
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  I still call them brother, but I say, okay, we'll see who's right about this.
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  God's right, ultimately, but these are things we need to discuss.
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  So where it comes to Israel, what we believe, Matthew, is we should support the God's
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  chosen people because it's biblical, Old Testament, New Testament.
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  But the politics, the government of Israel, it is a secular nation, not everything they
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  do, we're going to get behind because it's just that would be ridiculous, you know, not
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  everything they do.
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  So let's just start by pointing people to your post that you put up at the end of June.
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  All versus Iran, political conflict or prophetic plans is very prophetic because as, you know,
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  biblical, a coalition of nations around Israel that surrounds her, they're going to invade
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  Israel at some point.
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  We know this is going to happen.
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  So talk to us about before we dive into just some of the things I want to bring out
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  from this post, just share your heart on this and what you've been hearing from Christians
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  in your sphere of influence.
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  Yeah, so I try to address any of the current issues of our day from a biblical worldview.
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  I am a big advocate on not looking at these headlines and trying to fit them into scripture
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  because there's plenty of headlines to go around.
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  That is not what we are called to do.
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  But we are to look to the scriptures to help us define the headlines.
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  And Jesus being our master, he tells us in Matthew 24, he actually traces the age that
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  bleeds into or leads into the end of the days.
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  And when you put other prophetic pieces of the puzzle together and you take what Jesus
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  said about contractions, and obviously I just was in the delivery room a couple of weeks
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  ago.
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  And I don't think I need to say this, but who do you think felt the contractions the most
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  in that delivery room?
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  Yeah.
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  Probably your wife.
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  That's right.
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  My bride.
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  My bride.
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  And that's the point.
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  The bride of Christ should be more sensitive to the contractions of our day that are leading
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  to with more intensity in a greater interval to the soon delivery.
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  So that's what we're watching on the world stage.
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  We're watching all of these prophetic pieces come together.
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  You just had Pastor Mondo on and I love what he said.
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  He said there's a difference between chosen and saved.
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  And what I do with with my church is I focus more on and get this.
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  The God of Israel.
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  We put a lot of emphasis on Israel and that's fine because there's a prophetic plan that
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  has yet to be fulfilled that will save a remnant, one third of Israel in the end times.
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  However, if we spend more time talking about the God of Israel, the God that will see this
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  plan through, the God that does not forsake his covenant, the God that started a work
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  through Abraham.
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  And that's the Abrahamic covenant where there is a right to that land because God gave
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  it to them.
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  So right away, the interesting super sign was May 14th, 1948 that has never happened in
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  human history.
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  Exactly.
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  That a people group that were seemingly dispersed and gone, the Hebrew language seemingly
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  dead, they were all of a sudden back in their land, that fulfilled scripture.
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  So we're not too far from that.
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  When we look at that and all of the surrounding nations, including Iran, that are converging
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  on them.
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  Now, right away, when you understand the spiritual realm, these aren't left or right
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  talking points.
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  These are up or down.
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  And I know Bible.
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  And if God has a people whose name is Israel and that name means governed by God, the name
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  alone would be enough for the enemy, the devil, to want to destroy them.
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  As he knows, if he can destroy Israel, if he can wipe her off the map, which he'll
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  never be able to do because God put her on the map, then he can stop Jesus from returning.
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  So why he tried to stop Israel in the beginning before Jesus came the first time, and that
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  is why there's an emphasis and an aggressiveness, what we call anti-semitism against Jews and
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  Israel specifically.
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  So so many thoughts that I have about what's happening in the Middle East because the Bible
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  gives us the blueprint, the template.
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  And if you stick to that and you get caught up in all the politics, and unfortunately, you
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  had that interview between Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz that went viral and you had two
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  individuals who were who are biblically illiterate, right?
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  So Ted Cruz didn't know why or where that verse in Genesis and Tucker called him out on
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  that is like it's in Genesis.
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  And I washed it over and over and I'm like, yeah, that's right.
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  But there's context to that.
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  And you follow that thread through the word of God and it leads to the New Testament and
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  then it leads to the Apostle Paul writing in Romans 9, chapter 9, 11.
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  And then you look at the Old Testament prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled, including Zachariah
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  chapters 12 to 14.
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  You look at Ezekiel chapter 38 and you watch all of these prophetic puzzle pieces coming
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  together and you look at God's prophetic plan coming to fruition, which is in spite of
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  Israel, that secular political state.
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  So that's one angle.
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  The other angle is every Christian should know Romans 13.
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  Romans 13 is the flagship passage, David, that gives us God's definition for government
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  who God calls His servant, His minister.
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  I'm a minister of the gospel, but government has a unique role and the government of every
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  nation that is civilized has been granted the sword.
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  And the sword is law enforcement, is military enforcement.
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  So that is the reason why nations don't easily invade other nations.
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  Even though that happens, it's because those nation states have been granted by God,
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  the sword.
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  So that's what really spurred this on is those nation states that are surrounding Israel
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  attempting to destroy her, who is the leading sponsor of terrorism, it's Iran.
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  And all the proxies that surrounded Israel for the past several decades have sought
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  to destroy her.
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  And what is she done?
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  She has just protected her right to exist.
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  And at the end of the day, no one will be able to destroy her because God's plan is not
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  done with her.
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  Amen.
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  And brother, yeah, you mentioned that exchange with Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson.
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  And I thought about playing it at the beginning of this podcast or before we started talking
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  about it, but it is so maddening, you're there going, no, I mean, there is just ignorance
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  on both sides and these men profess biblical Christianity and I don't know their hearts.
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  But as far as their knowledge and their understanding of scripture, there's a problem.
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  As you mentioned, they are so, they're influential, they're both well known.
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  I like both of these men, but now Tucker Carlson has taken a different angle.
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  It seems maybe an anti-Semitic angle, but let's talk about the article that you wrote.
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  You said, you mentioned the Persian people and you mentioned there are beautiful people.
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  They have suffered under this tyrannical rule since 1979.
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  Did that have something to do with Jimmy Carter or something anyway?
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  Anyway, so you mentioned, you know, it's not the whole country, but you put, whenever
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  you have something governed by a demonic religion or something like radical Islam, you're gone.
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  The people are going to suffer and go ahead, I'll let you just share whatever you want.
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  We're already down to four minutes, my goodness.
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  Yeah, Islamism is not just an ideology, it's a doctrine of demons.
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  It does not, in the American context, get this David, we have Americans who are yelling
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  at the top of their lungs for separation of church and state, right?
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  That's the lie that we've been fed.
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  Meanwhile, Islamism, which is welcomed into the halls of government in America.
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  You're seeing more Islamic individuals running for office, and that's another podcast we
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  could do about what's happening in New York City, but my point is this, nobody calls them
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  out for separation of state and mosque, no, it's because they are one and the same.
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  They're not just an ideology, they're not just the political framework, they are religious
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  framework.
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  And then when you have that tyrannical, demonic governance, then people underneath of it
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  will be oppressed.
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  And yes, the Persian people are a Bible people.
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  God used the nation state of Persia to be a protector upon his chosen people, Israel.
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  And you see that with Cyrus, you see that with Doraius, some say Darius, but God always
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  uses these world leaders to fulfill his plan.
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  And I always say, regardless of that leader, because people will say, well, what about Trump
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  or what about Netanyahu?
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  It's like God is able to even use unrighteous rulers to accomplish his righteous rule in
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  the earth.
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  So Iran, since 1979, has been oppressive to her own people and has sought to destroy
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  and they chant and their proxies chant.
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  And I think there's a correlation here, death to America, death to Israel.
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  And I think we should finally take them at their word.
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  And that has bled into America.
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  I'd love to write a part two to discerning the devil's playbook, because in that book
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  you kind of see Nazism and how it has been repackaged in progressivism.
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  But I think you had an episode recently, David, that made the cross reference to Islamism.
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  And you're like, none of these ideologies have anything in common.
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  Yet why are they partnering with each other?
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  Why is Islamism and progressiveism partnering with each other?
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  Well, it's because they have a common enemy.
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  And that enemy is anything that represents God, anything that they think represents Jesus
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  Christ.
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  They are anti-Christ.
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  So I kind of went away from the original blog, but I think it's all related in the
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  green scheme of the spiritual war.
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  Well, you referred to Trevor Loudon.
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  I talked to it with Ken Michael.
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  He talks about the red green axis.
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  It's Islam or communism in Islam or Islam in progressivism.
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  And strange bedfellows.
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  But then you put the LGBTQ in that, supporting that, and they're going, do you know what they
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  believe about homosexuality?
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  And you have strange bedfellows.
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  But I want to read, you referred to Genesis 17, 17, and I don't know how many times the
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  Bible talks about this everlasting covenant.
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  That's right.
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  Everlasting.
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  It says, I will establish my covenant between me and you and your descendants after you
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  throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant to be God to you and to your descendants
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  after you.
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  And then it goes on.
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  I will give you the land.
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  And that's Genesis 17, 7, 8.
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  But Matthew, we've got, oh, less than a minute.
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  If you can just kind of just share your final thoughts in a couple seconds, I guess, sorry
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  about that.
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  We ran out of time quickly here.
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  It always happens this way.
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  The everlasting covenant is binding because God made it with Himself.
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  He made the covenant with Himself.
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  He cannot break it.
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  He has to fulfill His plan.
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  I often say unredeemed Israel.
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  That might help your audience.
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  Unredeemed Israel, which means He's bringing her to a redemptive conclusion.
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  Jeremiah chapter 31 also says, if you can change the sun, the moon and the stars from
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  orbiting, that's the day that I will cease my promise for the house of Israel.
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  So so much more to be said, David, you always do a phenomenal job, bringing on the right
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  guests to bring a biblical worldview.
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  I appreciate it so much.
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  Well, thank you.
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  You're one of them.
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  And you end that article.
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  You say don't be fooled by talking heads, stick to God's unchanging word, truthovertrend.com.
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  Brother, Matthew, thank you so much again.
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  All right, guys.
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  God bless you guys.
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  Thank you so much.
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  Yes.
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  Thanks, Matthew.
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  We're sharing the podcast.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.