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Random Heathen Ramblings: S6, EP06 - How Do Heathens Develop Deeper Connections With Local Land Spirits? [Patreon Request] · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  All right, folks. So today, this week, we've got
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  no guests once again, but we do have a request, sort of a
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  request. One of the things that when I
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  And in that community chat is is a place for you to request
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  hear talk about on this show. So as a supporter on Patreon,
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  something, your topic gets bumped to the front.
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  So thankfully we don't have a huge backlog of things to to
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  talk about. And so this week's topic is
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  going to be one of the questions that came in from Michael
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  Thacker. And Michael has been a great
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  contributor of this show, always chiming in and saying hello
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  during the the YouTube live streams once a month and very
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  sharing his thoughts. So he's a great member of of the
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  Patreon community. And just the, the, the Pagan
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  slash heathen community that we have here in this capacity and
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  in, in, in his role, I know he has a, a role that he serves in
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  his, in his local community. So it's great to to hear things
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  from other heathens out there wanting to have some things
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  talked. About South Michael this week
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  wanted to have a topic brought up which I'm always happy to
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  talk about and that is the topic of.
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  You know the land spirits. Land whites, land vittier, for
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  anybody who's been following this show or subscribed or, or
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  listens to this or whatever, you know, if, if you've been hanging
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  around in, in my communities long enough, you know, like the
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  land vittier and land veneration, the, the animism,
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  you know, is, is a huge part of my heathenry.
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  It's a big part of my spirituality.
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  So having a topic come up that that involves such things.
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  We're having guests on the show that involves talking about such
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  things is always. A joy for me.
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  So one, one thing that he was, I think talking about in in in our
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  community chat was deepening our connection.
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  With the land vitir or strengthening those bonds with
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  the local spirits of the land that we kind of cohabitate with
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  and and that reside. In around us and beside us, so
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  to speak. And I thought, yeah, why not
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  talk about that? You know, so, so, so I think
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  some of what I'm going to be covering are my own personal
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  UPG. You know, this will be another
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  episode wherein a lot of that leaks through.
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  But my UPGI think is is I mean, it's mine.
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  I don't, I don't need to, I don't need to, you know, fluff
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  it up or, or make it anything more than what it is.
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  But from when, when I talk to others, you know, about stuff
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  like this, even though we're different heathens, we're
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  different people. The there's there's some so much
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  similarities between the way we think and the way we see the
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  world when, especially when it comes to stuff like.
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  This. That I think if you take a poll
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  and you go around, you talk to different folks, you might hear
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  some of the same things. So for those that maybe don't
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  know if you know this is your first episode or this is your
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  first time hearing what am I talking about?
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  Land Veitier land whites. So these are just terms that are
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  very common in Germanic slash Scandinavian folklore and such,
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  which is a term that is used to define or describe the local
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  spirits of the land. Because the word vaitir is is is
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  a word that means in Old Norse it just means spirit in white,
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  not WHITE. So not like the shade or the
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  color white, but whites. WIGHTS is an old.
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  English word, I believe that again just means, you know,
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  spirit. So land whites, land spirits,
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  land Vaitir, land spirits. And again, Veitier is being it's
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  a Scandinavian or Old Norse. Word for for that.
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  So, you know, if you're in the United States or you're not in
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  Europe and you know, you won't just call them land spirits.
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  We're we're talking about the same thing.
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  And So what are we talking about that when, when it comes to
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  that, what are they, they are just what, what it says.
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  They, they are the spirit of the land.
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  It is the spirit that is, exists in the landscape that can
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  sometimes manifest itself in different ways in, in some of
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  the lore or some of the yeah, some of the folklore and some of
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  the sagas even there's the the the Norse sagas, at least I can
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  think 1. You know, I believe it's maybe
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  not Iggiel. Scala Grimson because.
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  That's the one where he, he curses the king and the queen
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  and it's and it scares the, the Vaitier.
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  But there's another saga and it's escaping my mind, but I
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  will, I will link it down below or I'll put it up here on screen
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  for you, for those of you watching, but I'll also link it
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  down below for those of you listening, where the, where the
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  land spirits of Iceland are described.
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  You know, the, and there's four different ones and they are very
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  descriptive. You know, one looking like a
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  dragon, one looking like a, a giant person, another one, you
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  know, looking like an eagle and and, and and and other things.
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  And there there's been a recent episode here just on this season
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  where I've mentioned some of those sources too.
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  So if you want to go back or listen to that.
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  Or, you know, or watch it. I'll yeah, I I think it was
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  either episode 3 or or. Four maybe of of of season 6.
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  Anyway, I'll link it for all of you too, but the but that's what
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  you know, so, so the land whites or the land spirits can often
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  times manifest themselves in physical form and in the form of
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  animals or other physical, you know, they, they can take on
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  physical form. But but ultimately it is, it is
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  the spirit of that landscape. So there are mountain spirits or
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  Galvetir, you know, there are water spirits.
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  There are. Spirits in the rock, spirits in
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  the in the trees, there are, there are spirits of the
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  mountains, spirits of the river, you know.
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  So there is everything contains spirit goes back to the
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  animistic viewpoints in the animistic ways of northern
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  European spirituality. There's a lot of animism
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  interwoven in and throughout that.
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  So. Sometimes the the the the spirit
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  or the spirits of the land, they can be, They can be benevolent,
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  they can be peaceful, they can be on your side.
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  And then there's other times where the spirits inhabiting a
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  place can be malevolent. They can be.
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  Bad to the human population, you know, or they can be devious, or
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  they can be harmful. You know they can.
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  They can do things to to bring harm in various ways.
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  And how does that manifest itself?
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  So you read through some of the through some of the through some
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  of the lore and such, you'll, you'll see an understanding that
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  people had of these spirits that when.
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  The spirits were. In a good mood and when they
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  were happy. The land was in was in good
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  shape. You know, the the crops were,
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  were plentiful. There was no war.
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  Tearing families apart and destroying the land.
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  You know, there, there was health.
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  There was an illness and everything was, was, you know,
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  life was, was, was copacetic. You know, if people were OK,
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  everything was all right, we're groovy.
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  And if they're the spirits of the land were upset or scared
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  away or disrespected or, or, or anything like that, you know,
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  they the and it would show in the way that how the land
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  responded. So they would, you know, crops
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  would suck, war would come, sickness would would prevail.
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  Strife, turmoil would, would would exist.
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  So there's this connection, you know, between how things were
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  going and how that was, was was was understood to be how the the
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  land spirits were, were being treated and how they were
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  behaving. So for Michael to want to talk
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  about strengthening our bonds, you know, or our connection with
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  the land spirits belief comes from a place of wanting to make
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  sure that things are OK in in the landscape around in the.
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  Places that you are. And I know for me, you know,
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  living where I live is a, is, you know, I live near the Stones
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  River in Middle Tennessee. It's a It's a densely populated.
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  Area There are a lot of homes near and around me.
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  So, you know, there's a lot of mixing of things going, going
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  around in, in where I live. And some folks, I'm sure
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  listening and watching can relate to this as well,
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  Especially if you live in a highly densely populated area or
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  residential neighborhood or even an apartment complex or, you
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  know, inner city kind of kind of sort of living living.
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  You know, you've got humans elbows to asses next to each
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  other pretty much. You know, in what space do you
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  have to cohabitate with the spirits of the land, the natural
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  landscape. Seems like the more people set
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  up places of their own, the less that the spirits of the land
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  have to, to, to share that space with.
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  Or, you know, they, they, they have that space, but it's not
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  being respected and people are just coming in and arbitrarily
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  just doing whatever they're doing without care.
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  Or concern for the spirits of the land that were there first.
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  So when you, when we talk about, you know, strengthening our
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  bonds, bonds connecting with the spirits of the land, this is
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  important. Thing for, for a lot of
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  heathens, it is particularly for me, which is why I'm so glad to
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  talk about it. If you're living in a space or
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  moving to his place, maybe perhaps you, you've been there
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  for so long and, and, and you just haven't thought about it
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  yet. Or maybe you're, you're
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  relocating and you're going to a new place.
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  Establishing a connection with the spirits of that land, the
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  local residents as they were, is critical.
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  It's crucial because without doing so, you can come in and
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  interrupt their their life. It's it's, it's invasion, You
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  know, if you think about it, and I'm sorry, but if, you know, if
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  I was just going about my day-to-day life, you know, doing
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  my normal thing, I'm sitting here, you know, recording the
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  podcast and then somebody else comes in here and it's like, all
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  right, this is my house now and you got to go.
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  And they start just trucking my stuff out the window.
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  I am going to be. Upset it's going to I'm going
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  you know, it's it's it's going to to be a way that I, I I feel
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  that is going to, you know, externally affect and impact
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  everything so. I wouldn't want to do that to
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  the space that I'm moving to. And even in my own space, even
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  in my own residence, you know, my own house, there are places
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  and there are, there are. Corners.
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  There are areas, there are. Sections of the home that.
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  You know. If, if we rearrange things, if
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  we move things around, I want to be respectful of the space that
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  I've set up for the resident spirit to reside because yes,
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  this is my home, but in my home also contains, you know.
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  Spirit there is the spirit of the house, the Kolf God, The
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  hosfatir Kolf God, I believe is. Is more of an old English term
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  and and and his fatir might be more towards the the the
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  Scandinavian or or Norse leaning terminology for it, but it it
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  means the same thing, the spirit.
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  Of the house, the spirit of the home, the God of the home.
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  You know what, what what figure, what spirit is, is respected,
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  worshipped, venerated. As as the guardian of that home,
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  as as the caretaker, as we're the caretakers.
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  But you know what I'm saying, Like the, the overseer, the
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  guardian of that place. So to maintain good
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  relationships, you know, talk about deepening connections,
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  strengthening our bonds. It's, it can be very simple,
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  right? What do you, what do you do when
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  you want to strengthen a bond with a friend, with somebody who
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  you're wanting to get to know? What do you do to strengthen
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  that bond? Well, first of all you
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  introduce. Yourselves.
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  You know, hi, so and so my name is Jesse.
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  Nice to meet you. This is where I'm from.
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  Then I'm I'm going to be, I'm going to be your neighbor.
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  You know, I'm moving in next door, I'm moving in downstairs,
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  I'm moving in upstairs, whatever, you know.
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  And anyway, just wanted to introduce you and you know, by
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  the way, you know, I see, you know, and, and so you build a
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  rapport, you know, start exchanging maybe some
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  information, maybe make a meal, share sharing, sharing a coffee
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  or something, right? Like this is your common things
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  that that people do to establish a relationship, establish a
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  connection with the cohabitants of your space, whether it's a
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  neighborhood or, you know, the land nearby, You know how
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  however far or near your neighbor might be.
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  These are gestures to show that. Hi I'm.
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  Here to just peacefully coexist with you so similarly.
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  Doing things like this with the unseen acts as a sort of peace
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  offering it, it lets the entity know or the entities, it lets
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  them know that who is this person that's coming here in
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  Myspace now? Oh, they're, they're not so bad.
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  They're coming with peace, right?
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  They're there, they're coming with gifts.
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  They're coming with kindness, with a kind word, with, with
• 22:59
  good smelling items, you know? Food a nice beverage.
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  A clean space to live in. Wow.
• 23:05
  This is nice that they clean this whole area out for me,
• 23:08
  right? And it puts it it it starts off
• 23:11
  with a good connection. It starts off with a good
• 23:13
  relationship. So again, just like with
• 23:16
  anybody, you have to establish that connection 1st and then
• 23:18
  once you establish that connection to maintain it, to
• 23:21
  build it, to strengthen it, there needs to be reciprocity.
• 23:25
  So if I am talking to a neighbor who is a new neighbor to me
• 23:32
  perhaps, and I go to them and I say, hey, I'm moving in right
• 23:36
  here or there, whatever, I'm next door behind you, whatever
• 23:39
  here is, you know, a fresh loaf of bread that I made or some
• 23:43
  Donuts, right? Or or a.
• 23:45
  Casserole or something, you know, it's nice to know you,
• 23:48
  nice to meet you. I'm new to the neighborhood.
• 23:50
  You know, if that gift is, is accepted kindly, then what would
• 23:54
  would be expected right is or hoped for at the very least, is
• 23:59
  that a gift would would be given in return.
• 24:02
  Oh, thank you so much, you know, and then the next time they make
• 24:04
  something, maybe they come over, you know, Hey, I was getting rid
• 24:07
  of this. Do you need it?
• 24:08
  You know, I don't need it anymore.
• 24:10
  You, you have use for it, right. So things that maybe rather than
• 24:14
  just discarding them or or doing things of their own, they are
• 24:18
  now thinking of their neighbor, the person with whom they share
• 24:22
  space with. And thinking of them and then so
• 24:25
  on and so on, the cycle continues.
• 24:28
  And that is one of the key points that I want to bring up
• 24:30
  when it comes to. Our relationship with spirit,
• 24:35
  with the unseen, whatever name you want to put to them, whether
• 24:38
  it's VAITI or Whites, whatever, our relationship with these
• 24:45
  unseen forces is entirely reliant and dependent upon the
• 24:51
  reciprocity of the gifting cycle.
• 24:55
  So we must first establish. The connection we must have.
• 24:57
  First established our space with them.
• 24:59
  There's going to be a few things that I talk about here in just a
• 25:01
  little bit about that, about establishing space, about, you
• 25:07
  know, claiming space if you will.
• 25:11
  But then once that has happened, there is this, there's this
• 25:13
  ongoing need to maintain things in good standing.
• 25:20
  So it's not exactly the same as what I'm describing with regards
• 25:26
  to people, how people interact with one another because we as
• 25:29
  people, we are, we, we contain spirit as well.
• 25:37
  We are spirit, you know, we, we don't contain it.
• 25:39
  It is, it is who we are. I am I am Spirit traveling
• 25:44
  around in this mechanical meat suit.
• 25:48
  You know with all these things that that that make it go.
• 25:50
  But Spirit is what I am and who I am and Spirit is what who you
• 25:53
  are and the various parts of the soul of the spirit that you want
• 25:57
  to break down and and look at. If you're looking at it through
• 26:01
  a heathen lens, you know the Hummer, the huger, the humming,
• 26:04
  You know the older, the the the owned, you know the.
• 26:08
  Various parts of our self, the might, the main, everything that
• 26:11
  comes and goes in and through us and about us.
• 26:13
  What makes us? Spiritual.
• 26:15
  Beings we take physical form. We take a form that is
• 26:19
  manifested in this physical shape.
• 26:22
  The Veitier don't always, but they are still existing in the
• 26:26
  same plane of space and time as we are.
• 26:29
  They still are existing in spirit form in profane space.
• 26:34
  So they are right beside us whether we can see them or not.
• 26:36
  They are in they are around us whether we can see them or not.
• 26:39
  So our relationship with them, while not exactly the same as
• 26:42
  our physical neighbor, echoes very similar things.
• 26:46
  So to forget them or to not recognize them or to not
• 26:49
  acknowledge them or to disregard them through without without
• 26:53
  giving them gifts is a slight to them, I feel at least it is.
• 26:56
  It is a you know, it it it disregards their their presence
• 27:01
  and and our desire to want to live amicably and peacefully
• 27:04
  with them. So if we're not doing things to
• 27:09
  see to it that they are, you know, kept happy that they are
• 27:15
  satisfied that we are in good. Standing.
• 27:17
  Standing with them. Then what else is it that we are
• 27:19
  doing? Well, we are that, you know, we,
• 27:22
  we are, we are not acknowledging them.
• 27:26
  And could that be in its own way, a form of of sliding them?
• 27:32
  You know it would, it would is it almost as bad as going in and
• 27:37
  just dumping trash, you know, tearing up the ground, you know,
• 27:43
  not giving any regard, disregarding their their
• 27:45
  presence if we're not going to, if we're not going to
• 27:47
  acknowledge them through gifting.
• 27:50
  To me it's almost the same as. Just.
• 27:55
  Going in and trash in the place. So it would make them upset, it
• 28:00
  would, it would disrupt them, it wouldn't give them peace, it
• 28:02
  wouldn't give them rest. And then they would be forced
• 28:05
  out. So, you know, at that point,
• 28:07
  it's, it's one of two things, either they, they either they
• 28:10
  let us take over the space, which is why I'm seeing a lot of
• 28:13
  what's happening. And then in other times, what
• 28:15
  I'm seeing happening is that the spirits don't want to go there,
• 28:17
  that this is my place. You came in here uninvited.
• 28:20
  You came in here violently in some ways, and you came in here
• 28:23
  disrespecting my space. I'm not going to leave.
• 28:25
  And not only am I not going to leave, I'm going to make your
• 28:29
  life here a problem. I'm going to be disruptive.
• 28:33
  I'm going to give you shit all the time to have to deal with
• 28:38
  because you came in here and gave me crap now.
• 28:40
  Now I'm giving it right back to you.
• 28:41
  So there's this again, largely UPG here, but but to me this is
• 28:46
  a large reason why I feel a lot of times places and people and
• 28:50
  in places have problems where they live is because whether
• 28:57
  they did it themselves. Or whether the people before
• 29:00
  them did it. Whatever.
• 29:02
  The relationship wasn't established properly, you know.
• 29:09
  They they they didn't put the work in.
• 29:13
  Whether they moved in there new took over a new new new resident
• 29:17
  from the previous people, you know, they didn't do the
• 29:22
  necessary work to to establish a peaceful place.
• 29:28
  Now, again, when it comes to this type of thing, I think, you
• 29:33
  know, there's there's a good bit of information that I'm about to
• 29:35
  share with all of you that if you really want to go into
• 29:38
  studying more about this, there, there are some really key pieces
• 29:43
  of literature that have been recommended to me and that I in
• 29:47
  turn recommend to to a lot of people.
• 29:51
  So we're going to start with, I'm just going to put them up on
• 29:54
  camera here for you all to see. We're going to start with, of
• 29:57
  course, the LON Nama book. So I've got it here on screen,
• 30:02
  but it's it's the book of so LON Nama book is just the book of
• 30:07
  settlers. So when Iceland was settled by
• 30:10
  the Norwegians. This is a collection of valuable
• 30:18
  resources, specifically. Surrounding Icelandic folklore
• 30:26
  so how the Scandinavian people of of Norway carried their
• 30:29
  traditions from where they left when they settled Iceland a lot
• 30:35
  of. What what you're going to find
• 30:36
  and contain in this in this book or a good bit of what contained
• 30:39
  in this book is is is the is how land was was claimed or how land
• 30:43
  was, yeah, claimed. With fire and and then so forth.
• 30:52
  So the links for these books are going to be down in the
• 30:55
  description or showing us of this of this episode.
• 30:58
  But that's that's one book that I recommend.
• 31:01
  The next two books that I recommend are by the same
• 31:03
  author. I don't know how to pronounce
• 31:04
  his last name for correctly because I'm not French, but the
• 31:09
  author's name is Claude Leko Leko Tu Lesoto.
• 31:14
  I don't know, but the first book that I'm recommend by Claude is
• 31:19
  Demons and Spirits of the Land. Ancestral lore and Practices.
• 31:27
  This goes over a lot of medieval stories, you know, folk
• 31:31
  traditions even. Spiritual place names and.
• 31:37
  Various Pagan rituals of, of home building and, and and site
• 31:42
  selections. So beyond Germanic, there's
• 31:45
  there's there's, you know, Celtic English, I'm sure, but
• 31:52
  you know, you've got everything from, you know, universal or
• 31:57
  sorry, unusual manifestations to demons and fallen angels, cult
• 32:02
  remnants, the evidence of place names, the undersides of
• 32:06
  idolatry, all the way from that over to taking possession of a
• 32:11
  piece of land, encountering the spirits of the local land
• 32:16
  contract with spirits enclosed space that is sacred, the
• 32:20
  conquest of the space. This is a great source.
• 32:25
  And Claude, of course, does he is he is a a well respected
• 32:30
  academic. He was a professor of of
• 32:34
  medieval literature and civilization at the Sorbana.
• 32:42
  He's the author of numerous books.
• 32:44
  Then beyond what I'm just going to be naming here, multiple
• 32:48
  books on medieval and Pagan beliefs and magic, including the
• 32:50
  Book of Grimoires, the Tradition of Household spirits, which is
• 32:53
  going to be next on my list, and a Lapidary of sacred stones and
• 32:57
  the Secret History of poltergeist and Haunted houses.
• 33:01
  And at the time that this book was published, which was in
• 33:11
  1995, he lived in Paris. I don't know if he's still alive
• 33:14
  or not, but yes. So, so that just goes straight
• 33:18
  into the next book, The Tradition of household spirits,
• 33:22
  ancestral lore and practices. So these two books by Claude
• 33:28
  Lisle 2. Lisle 2 Critical reading crucial
• 33:32
  reading for heathens, especially to understand the the dynamic,
• 33:38
  the the relationship that that we can have with the spirits
• 33:44
  that inhabit places, locations. You know, this book is great
• 33:49
  because it goes into the house, covering things like the house
• 33:53
  and its construction, the buildings, openings of the
• 33:55
  house, the house interior. I don't know if it's in this
• 33:58
  book or if it's in Demons and Spirits of the land that that
• 34:02
  talks about there being some folklore that state states that,
• 34:11
  you know, when it when it came to erecting a building that the
• 34:16
  people wouldn't even do that first without.
• 34:20
  They wouldn't do that without first.
• 34:21
  Sacrificing a living animal or a life for that because they knew.
• 34:27
  That to to claim that space required that a life to be to be
• 34:30
  sacrificed for it. So a serious business, you know,
• 34:33
  it, it meant something to, to, to ancient, you know, medieval
• 34:37
  or or later civilizations. Now, of course, we live in a
• 34:42
  time, you know, and we live in an era where, you know, just
• 34:46
  because you want to build a house doesn't mean you need to
• 34:48
  go out and kill a goat. Or a cow.
• 34:49
  Or a pig or anything like that. But these books, these three
• 34:54
  books here that I. That I cited for you are are not
• 34:57
  expensive. You know you can.
• 34:59
  You can save up a few pennies, you know, a few bucks here or
• 35:02
  there and then and and have these books in your collection,
• 35:05
  you know, within a month or two if you're really scrimping and
• 35:07
  saving. But again, the links for them
• 35:10
  will be you can you can buy them on Amazon.
• 35:13
  So I'll link them all down in the show notes for you.
• 35:15
  But but a lot of what these books will help with you, will
• 35:19
  help you with, I should say, is educating you.
• 35:25
  On the world view that these people had, and if you're
• 35:27
  adopting an old ways belief such as heathenry and you want to
• 35:38
  strengthen your bond or connection with the spirits of
• 35:43
  the land, these boys can help with it.
• 35:45
  Now, one thing I would definitely say just for my own
• 35:49
  observations. So again, this will this will go
• 35:52
  more onto the the UPG side of things.
• 35:57
  Is is that, you know, you have to realize what the spirits of
• 36:02
  the land are. They are not the same as people,
• 36:07
  obviously. They're not the same as as as as
• 36:09
  humans. They act on their own agency.
• 36:13
  They do their own thing. They can be gifted to.
• 36:21
  And. Relationships with between them
• 36:24
  and us can be amicable so far as to be able to live peacefully.
• 36:30
  They are also outside of what we would.
• 36:34
  Say the normal or that's the normal, but they would they
• 36:37
  would be considered outside of the inner yard social construct
• 36:42
  of things. So in the fact that they act on
• 36:46
  their own agency and, and are outside of that inner inner yard
• 36:50
  social construct, the gifting exchange is not it's, it's, it's
• 36:57
  not exactly the same as what we would see as, as like let's say
• 37:01
  between, you know, 2 oath sworn kins people, you know, the
• 37:10
  relationships of Frith that are found.
• 37:12
  Between. In relationships with with
• 37:14
  people do not exist between, you know, with, with relationships
• 37:19
  with. My foot itches, you can see me.
• 37:22
  Scooting around over. Here and trying to scratch my
• 37:24
  foot it doesn't exist in the same way with with the spirits
• 37:27
  of the land. OK, you're, yeah, sure you don't
• 37:33
  want to, you know, do anything to to, you know, neglect them
• 37:35
  or, or to, you know, purposefully piss them off, I
• 37:39
  guess. But you know, if if.
• 37:43
  If if the. Spirits of the land are upset
• 37:44
  and they're acting their own way.
• 37:46
  Especially if you're going outside.
• 37:49
  Outside on on a. On a hunt, let's say you know
• 37:52
  the the spirits that exist in in those spaces, in those
• 37:56
  landscapes, the the wild. If you will, they are definitely
• 38:00
  under no obligation, no reason to want to.
• 38:03
  You know, they're there like you're in my house now.
• 38:05
  You play by my rules. And if I don't like you, then
• 38:07
  then tough nuts. You know, I don't know.
• 38:09
  Nothing you do is going to, you know, make me like you.
• 38:14
  So again, from like personal experience, I understand that
• 38:21
  and I respect, I respect the respect the rules, you know, I
• 38:28
  respect, I respect the, the construct of things.
• 38:32
  I'll go out a lot of times when I go on like a river
• 38:36
  exploration, if I go out on the walk to walk in the river, if
• 38:39
  I'm going out and I'm walking the trails, I always take gifts
• 38:44
  with me. I always take things that I
• 38:46
  know. Can be safe and consumable
• 38:50
  resources for the spirits of the land and what I mean by that is
• 38:56
  is things that are of organic nature that are native to the
• 39:00
  area where I live you know what I mean so nuts and seeds and you
• 39:09
  know things that are non. Toxic to the birds.
• 39:13
  Some of the critters like the the.
• 39:16
  The possums and the and the raccoons and the and the
• 39:19
  chipmunks and the squirrels, you know, because again, I, I, I see
• 39:22
  them as they are squirrels. They are raccoons.
• 39:26
  They are. Birds, you know, they are all
• 39:27
  those things. I'm not trying to say that.
• 39:29
  Every bird I see is is some form of, you know, spirit of the
• 39:34
  land. I Incarnate.
• 39:36
  But in a way I am because I believe my personal beliefs are
• 39:42
  that. They're all spirit.
• 39:44
  We all are spirit and, and whatever vessel the spirit takes
• 39:48
  form of that. It is just that so.
• 39:53
  But yes, there are certain forces of spirit that are
• 39:57
  unseen, unless it manifests in such things as a storm, where
• 40:01
  you get to see the ferocity of the wind and the rain and the
• 40:03
  tornado or the OR the snow or the this or the.
• 40:05
  That you know another times you know the spirit of the of of the
• 40:10
  land that that inhabits a river. Will be will be manifested in
• 40:15
  the form of the Heron or the ducks or the the the other
• 40:20
  waterfowl that frequent the area you know, or this or the fish or
• 40:27
  this you know the serpents or the turtles or this or that.
• 40:30
  Like everything is its own spirit.
• 40:32
  They act in their own agency and they are independent of one
• 40:36
  another, but they are they are a spirit.
• 40:38
  They are. They are spirit within.
• 40:43
  So I'd bring gifts for them. You know, I carry with me these
• 40:47
  these again consumable safe organic resources that when left
• 40:53
  in the space are either. Consumed by the land, or they
• 40:57
  biodegrade and they they, they, they give.
• 40:59
  Nutrients to the land. The land which also contains
• 41:03
  spirit, the trees, the rocks, the earth, the roots, the
• 41:07
  everything. So this is my way of
• 41:11
  strengthening my bond or strengthening the bond that I
• 41:16
  have because again, my, my, my heathenry envelops and
• 41:23
  encapsulates a very animistic form.
• 41:27
  Not all heathens are like that, you know, not all heathens feel
• 41:30
  that that same connection. And I'm not saying that you're
• 41:33
  bad or or less of a person or less of a heathen for not.
• 41:37
  I'm just saying that, you know, for me when it comes to.
• 41:41
  Establishing a good and strong relationship with the land.
• 41:43
  If I go someplace new, you know, before I venture out into that
• 41:49
  space, that landscape, if I've never been there before, I know
• 41:52
  that I'm literally walking into somebody else.
• 41:54
  'S house, you know, like that's how I treat it, you know, so I
• 41:58
  approach it with reverence, I approach it with appreciation, I
• 42:02
  approach it with thanks and I approach it with love and I
• 42:06
  approach it with a gift and I thank.
• 42:09
  Them, you know, I thank them for letting me come and visit and
• 42:14
  thank them for letting me experience what they get to live
• 42:18
  with all the time. You know, so having those
• 42:22
  moments, having those times and showing my appreciation for them
• 42:25
  is is my gesture is my way of establishing a relationship and
• 42:31
  respecting that space while I'm there.
• 42:35
  You know if there's. Trash pick it up, even if you
• 42:38
  didn't leave it, you know, and I, I've done that and I still, I
• 42:42
  do that all the time, you know, every week.
• 42:46
  I wouldn't say every day because I'm not necessarily out on the
• 42:49
  trail every day, but every week, you know, again, because I live
• 42:53
  nearby the Stones River. Our trash pickup is in is, is
• 42:57
  near where the river is. There's a big dumpster back
• 43:00
  there. So whenever I'm taking my house.
• 43:04
  Trash out to that dumpster. You know, I'm, I'm scouring the
• 43:07
  landscape nearby the river and if I see something, I'm running
• 43:09
  to go get it, you know, a, a stray piece of napkin or a cup
• 43:13
  or, or something that doesn't belong that that's needs to be
• 43:16
  discarded of properly. If I see it, I go take care of
• 43:19
  it because this is my way of deepening my, my connection with
• 43:23
  the land spirits. Do I expect that, that they're
• 43:29
  going to do something for me in return?
• 43:32
  I don't really think of it that way.
• 43:34
  I just think of it as I am appreciative of the space that I
• 43:36
  live near. I'm appreciative of the
• 43:39
  relationship that I've had with these spirits.
• 43:42
  And I want to treat that space good.
• 43:45
  I want to treat it as if it were my own, you know, and I want to
• 43:48
  thank them in this, in this form of, of service of being a
• 43:53
  custodian of this space of this landscape.
• 43:58
  You know, in another way that I think is good to deepen and
• 44:05
  strengthen our bonds is, is not only doing things like what I'm
• 44:08
  talking about doing, but doing it and and being an example.
• 44:16
  In in in, asking others you know and and having others be an
• 44:19
  example. For others to do it too.
• 44:22
  You know, don't just watch me do these things.
• 44:25
  Don't just give me a thumbs up. Don't just, you know, clap from
• 44:28
  a distance or whatever. Go out and do it yourself.
• 44:32
  You know, this is this is their home too.
• 44:35
  But man, this is our home. This earth, this, this land, you
• 44:38
  know, this was this is a gift we only got.
• 44:41
  We only got this one, you know, treat it well, treat it good,
• 44:46
  love it and and it will. Love you back.
• 44:52
  And for the most part, like I said, there's, there's, there's
• 44:54
  plenty of things that, that, that exist that no matter how
• 44:58
  nice you are, like I can go and I can pick up all the trash in
• 45:01
  the river every week if I wanted to.
• 45:05
  And I can pick up all the, the fallen debris, you know, in the
• 45:09
  woods and in the trails and all that where I go.
• 45:12
  Is that going to prevent, you know, a storm from coming in?
• 45:15
  Or flooding from happening? No, because that's the spirit of
• 45:19
  that. You know that is the necessary
• 45:22
  part of nature that needs to destroy.
• 45:27
  In order to allow for renewal. But it might also, you know, it
• 45:36
  might, it might keep the storm from getting too close to my.
• 45:40
  House. You know what I mean?
• 45:41
  It might keep the storm from from.
• 45:43
  Destroying things that are nearest and dearest to my loved
• 45:47
  ones because of the of. The things that I've not, you
• 45:51
  know, things will happen as they happen, but but I believe that
• 45:57
  this is a way or these are some ways for us to deepen and
• 46:00
  strengthen our bonds with the Vaitir.
• 46:03
  Of the land. So yeah, I mean, maybe I'm,
• 46:13
  maybe I'm just an old superstitious, you know,
• 46:18
  animistic hippie, heathen guy, whatever the heck.
• 46:21
  I don't even know. Anymore it's it's the names
• 46:23
  start to mean less and less. I know what I believe, I know
• 46:28
  what I feel. I know that I that I see the
• 46:31
  world through a very. Heathen Lens.
• 46:33
  You know, I have, I have things that are.
• 46:35
  Part of my world view that are heathen and then things that are
• 46:41
  not or that you can't necessarily attest to strictly
• 46:44
  being heathen. A lot of think of what I said
• 46:47
  today can be, you know, encompassed in in other belief
• 46:51
  systems that are not dramatic heathen.
• 46:54
  So. There's, there's, there's plenty
• 46:57
  of that as well. You know there's.
• 46:59
  Plenty of that nuance and that and that shared syncretism that
• 47:05
  that exists, especially when it comes to stuff like this.
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  When you talk about nature, the appreciation, the veneration,
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  the respect of nature, I think that that that goes deep and
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  beyond anything of an established religious or
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  spirituality. You know, it's, it's, it's
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  primal. You know, it goes deeper and it
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  touches and it touches. Roots.
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  That that that go way deeper than than things that have just
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  been recently. I say recently, you know, within
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  the last thousand 2000 years and that's pretty recent if you
• 47:40
  think about the grand scheme of things, you know, 1 or 2000
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  years ain't shit really ain't you know so, but is there
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  anything else that you're like I think that comes to mind?
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  I don't think so. I think I think I covered it
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  well enough for for just me. So so for, you know, for
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  Michael, when you catch this man, leave a comment on this.
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  Let me know what you thought. Let me know what you think and
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  everybody else, let me know what you think too.
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  Is there something that you can come up with that you know, is,
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  is a wave that that you're able to deepen the bonds or deepen
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  the connection with the local spirits?
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  You know, should we even be doing it?
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  Sometimes I think we should. You know, I mentioned before,
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  you know, sometimes there are there.
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  Are benevolent forces and then there are malevolent forces.
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  There are forces that wish to do us.
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  I'll I would not want to align with them.
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  I would want to. Get rid of them.
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  I would want to banish them. I want to put them far from me.
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  You know some of Claude's work. Goes into those types of things,
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  you know. You know, you talk about
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  malevolent forces and malevolent spirits.
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  You know the Drouger and the Norse.
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  Stuff like those are those are people.
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  Those are those are undead as a people.
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  The the the the the spirits of people.
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  So I don't really know if that that can be classified as a, you
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  know, a land, a land spirit. But there's there's plenty of
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  things in different folklore that that suggests that there
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  was a belief. By the people.
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  Of, of, you know, places and things, locations, you know,
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  items, you know, that can be inhabited by spirits and, and do
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  good or bad things with those places or those locations, those
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  things. So not everything that is spirit
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  should be aligned with some things.
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  You just need to get far away from state, you know, keep it
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  far away. And I, you know, I haven't, I
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  haven't found myself in a position to want to undo
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  anything of that nature. I haven't found myself in a
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  position to try and be like, oh, I can try.
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  To make it better or I want to have a relationship with this
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  now if it's if it's. If it's a baleful white, then no
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  thanks. You know now if the baleful
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  white has taken possession or ownership.
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  Of of a location that is now mine.
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  You know, if I happened upon a place that is, that is the
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  residence of a malevolent spirit.
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  Then then, yes, I would, I would wish to banish that spirit and
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  tell it to go away. And there are again, there,
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  there are ways of of doing that. There are ways of claiming space
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  and driving that, that force away.
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  And it's it's not always A1 and done sort of thing.
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  You know, you can't, you know, you can't expect to just go in,
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  say, hey, spirit, you know, it's my place now get out of here.
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  Shoot, beat it. And then you know, no, like
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  these are these are these are powerful spiritual beings and
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  entities that are not going to just relinquish ownership or
• 51:10
  relinquish their control. Is because you whoever.
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  You are, you know, walk in with a.
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  With a little bit of. Fire and some sage or something
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  like that. You know what I mean?
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  Like there's, there's some, there's some sometimes when,
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  when real strong medicine needs to come into the mix.
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  Real strong, you know, magic needs to be worked to cleanse
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  the space. So be mindful of that.
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  And you know, that's the other thing that, you know, I haven't
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  had any great experience with things like that.
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  So I don't want to, I don't want to speak too much of my own EPG
• 51:49
  on it because I haven't had any experiences that I can reflect
• 51:54
  upon that would say, you know, it's, it's anything along those
• 52:01
  lines. But if I do, I might come back
• 52:05
  and do another. Episode about it or maybe you
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