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Three Time South Carolina Rapist Brutally Attacks Teen Girls, WALKS FREE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Did you know that one
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Speaker 1: in four women at least have been sex assaulted? And
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Speaker 1: all my years of investigating and prosecuting cases, I can
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Speaker 1: tell you that that is highly, highly underreported. The majority
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Speaker 1: of women that are sex assaulted never say a word.
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Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is that? People look around you?
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Speaker 1: One in four women that you are seeing have been
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Speaker 1: sex assaulted. In this studio, one in four women have
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Speaker 1: been sex assaulted? Why because of people like Bowen Turner,
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Speaker 1: a three time sex offender that violates all the terms
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Speaker 1: of his bond over and over and over and still
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Speaker 1: walks free. Young girls have been raped and this guy
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Speaker 1: is walking free. Now, this is something I can never
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Speaker 1: do with a jury, but I can do it to you.
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Speaker 1: Under the law, prosecutors are not allowed to ask the
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Speaker 1: jurors to put themselves in the place of the victim.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. Think about being pinned down and forcibly raped. Men,
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Speaker 1: you think about it too, Think about it. Hold that
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Speaker 1: into your head, held down on the ground and raped.
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Speaker 1: This three six assaults is walking free. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious x M one eleven.
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Speaker 1: How much longer will this plague our country? It also
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Speaker 1: seems like too big of a problem to tackle. And
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Speaker 1: you know what, when the problem is too big to tackle,
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Speaker 1: what do you do? You do the first thing, one thing,
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Speaker 1: and then the next thing, and then the next thing
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Speaker 1: until you beat it. And I am starting today right
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Speaker 1: now with Bowen Turner. First of all, take a listen
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Speaker 1: to this. The father of Dallas Dollar says in twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 1: his daughter was the president of her senior class, smart
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Speaker 1: and outgoing, free to almost everyone she met that was
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Speaker 1: just her. She had a huge heart. One night, Dallas
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Speaker 1: came home from a party intoxicated, distraught, and covered in
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Speaker 1: these bruises, saying she had been sexually assaulted. It was
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Speaker 1: very upsetting, obviously, and very disheartening, and I like to
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Speaker 1: use the word tragic. Once we found out who the
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Speaker 1: alleged individual was, Dallas' family says they later pressed charges
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Speaker 1: against her classmate, sixteen year old Bowen Turner. Public records
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Speaker 1: show he was arrested and charged with first degree criminal
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Speaker 1: sexual conduct in Bamberg County in January of twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Turner was released on bond, but was required to wear
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Speaker 1: a GPS monitor. A few months later, a judge allowed
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Speaker 1: him to remove it after he violated that monitor over
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Speaker 1: and over and over again. Now think about it, that
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Speaker 1: was back in twenty nineteen and it's still happening. Was
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Speaker 1: that the first victim? I can guarantee you it was
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Speaker 1: not the last victim. There's something about sex offenders. They
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Speaker 1: can't stop. They do it over and over and over
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Speaker 1: and over. Certain crimes cannot be rehabbed. Just trust me
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Speaker 1: on that. Before I introduce to you an all start panel,
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Speaker 1: including one of Bowen Turner's rape victims, Chloe Bessing. Do
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Speaker 1: you know how hard it is for a rape victim
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Speaker 1: to speak out? I can tell you after dealing with
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Speaker 1: literally thousands of rape victims, many of them don't want
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Speaker 1: to endure the online trolls, the death threats, the judgment,
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Speaker 1: and they never say a word. Also with me, Carl Staller.
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Speaker 1: This is Dallas Staller's father, and you can find him
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Speaker 1: at Justice for Alice dot WordPress dot com. I want
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Speaker 1: to start with those two guests, then I'll bring in
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Speaker 1: our other very special guests. Carl. When I hear your
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Speaker 1: voice there describing what happened in twenty eighteen to your daughter,
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Speaker 1: it just every time I got hurt in any way,
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Speaker 1: my father would actually cry. He would cry. I've told
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Speaker 1: this story before, Carl. When I did Dancing with the Stars.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the very first night, I nearly got thrown
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Speaker 1: off and I was in jeopardy. My father and mother
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Speaker 1: had come all the way across the country, and we're
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Speaker 1: with me. And I looked across that big dance floor
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Speaker 1: and here I am, a grown woman with two children,
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Speaker 1: a husband. I looked at my father and across that huge,
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Speaker 1: huge floor, I saw him, and he was crying over that.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what you have been through. Tell me
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Speaker 1: what happened when Dallas came home having been attacked by
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Speaker 1: Bow and Turner in twenty eighteen, and since then there
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Speaker 1: had been two more sex attacks and he's still walking free.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about that moment, Yes, ma'am. Of course, our
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Speaker 1: immediate reaction, my wife, myself. I was actually asleep when
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Speaker 1: she got home, and my wife spoke me up and
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Speaker 1: tell me something had happened to Dallas. And initially I
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Speaker 1: wasn't sure exactly what was what had taken place, but
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Speaker 1: I did see that she was in quite a state
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Speaker 1: and and visibly injured. What do you mean quite a state. Well,
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Speaker 1: she was under obviously under the influence of alcohol, and
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Speaker 1: she was very upset and just she was. She wasn't
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Speaker 1: making a whole a sense at that point because of
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Speaker 1: being a combination of the alcohol and being what we
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Speaker 1: ultimately found out assaulted being also meaning sexually assaulted. Can
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Speaker 1: I ask you a question, mister Stallard, when you say
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Speaker 1: sex assaulted, what do you mean by that? I mean
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Speaker 1: she was physically assaulted sexually being Well, at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, it's quite simple. We call it criminal
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Speaker 1: sexual kinduct in South Carolina, but it's right rape. Hold on,
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Speaker 1: hold on, right there, Sarah forward with me, Legal director,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina Victim Assistant Network. Why don't we say rape?
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Speaker 1: Why do we put perfume on the pig? Why are
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Speaker 1: we everybody trying to say sex assaulted the second degree?
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Speaker 1: Blah blah. I don't even know what is that. It
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Speaker 1: means different things in every jurisdiction. This girl Roll was
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Speaker 1: raped forcibly raped. I think it has to do with
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Speaker 1: sanitizing what actually is happening, because it's something that that
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Speaker 1: folks don't want to talk about. You know, these issues happen,
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Speaker 1: As you said, Nancy you know, one in four women,
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Speaker 1: and I agree with you that number is higher than that.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yes, Sarah, it's tremendous. I like that word
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Speaker 1: you used. But you know what, mister Staller, I don't
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Speaker 1: want the airbrushed version. I don't want um it's sanitized
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Speaker 1: your girl. How old was she seen de Lord in
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Speaker 1: Heaven raped? Yes, ma'am, she was raped. She was forcibly,
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Speaker 1: her legs were pride apart and she was raped, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Now she comes home and believe me, it tastes like
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Speaker 1: dirt in my mouth, but that's what happened. She came
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Speaker 1: home in a state. As you say, when did you
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Speaker 1: finally realize your daughter had been raped? Well, at the time,
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Speaker 1: I was, you know, she said that she had been raped,
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Speaker 1: but I wasn't fully you know. Obviously, after medical the
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Speaker 1: medical folks took over at the hospital, it was evident
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Speaker 1: that she had been raped. M definitely evident she had
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Speaker 1: been physically assaulted at a minimum, but you know, ultimately raped.
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Speaker 1: So mad, my hand is actually shaking, yes, man, I
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Speaker 1: just picked up a cup of tea in my hand
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Speaker 1: is actually shaking. What went through your mind and your
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Speaker 1: body when you found out your team. Girl, she's only
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Speaker 1: been driving one year, hasn't been raped? Well, man, my
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Speaker 1: initial and I think this would be most any father's response.
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Speaker 1: So its just definitely instinctive as a father to protect
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Speaker 1: and not taking anything away from mothers, to protect your children.
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Speaker 1: And and we have three girls like I do. Um,
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Speaker 1: that's even a little more intense. And I'm a kind
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Speaker 1: of a passionate person. So once I found out that
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Speaker 1: that that she had been she had been raped, I
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Speaker 1: my initial response was upset, very upset for her, very
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Speaker 1: upset as a whole, but also very angry and in
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Speaker 1: a state of mind that I was, I felt like
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Speaker 1: I had to go ahead and take care of things.
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, my baby had been raped, and
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Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted to handle it right then. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And of course that's not the right way to do it,
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Speaker 1: but that was mine. You asked what my immediate reaction is,
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Speaker 1: and that's what my immediate reaction is. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: go out and take take care of what needed to
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Speaker 1: be handled. I'll tell you what. When my children got
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Speaker 1: bullied on the playground, I wanted to go kill the
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Speaker 1: kid and his family and burn the whole house down.
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Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine what you felt. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking of my little girl right now. Lucy's fourteen years old.
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Speaker 1: And then she tells you who the purpose bowing turner.
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Speaker 1: Did they know each other? Yes, ma'am. Absolutely, they had
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Speaker 1: known each other since they were very young, since they
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Speaker 1: were little children, because they've gone to school together the
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Speaker 1: entire time, and at our school in Orangeburg Oragsburg Preparatory School.
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Speaker 1: And she yes, Nate Man and his father and I
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Speaker 1: been friends for twenty five plus years. And did the
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Speaker 1: father work for the district attorney at that time, yes, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: what we call obviously solicitor in South Carolina. Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: He was an investigator for the first Judicial Circuit. Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: He was retired from He was a agent with South
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Speaker 1: Call on Probation Parole prior to working with the beginning
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Speaker 1: work with solicitors. We have been in the system a
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Speaker 1: long time and everybody knew, right, yes, ma'am. Time stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Rachel Fishery joining me, registered nurse, sex
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Speaker 1: assault nurse, examiner, expert witness, private investigator and author of
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Speaker 1: Taking Back the Pen. Rachel, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Question to you and I have put many a rape
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Speaker 1: nurse on the stand because somehow they're easier to understand
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Speaker 1: than the medical doctor and very often deal with the
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Speaker 1: rape victim first at the emergency room. How can you
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Speaker 1: tell a woman has been raped when you perform a
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Speaker 1: p all the exams. So when when the victims comn
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Speaker 1: and they become our patients, we start by taking a
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Speaker 1: medical history to find out, you know, what happened, and
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Speaker 1: then we do the heads to tow assessment. It's all
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Speaker 1: over for any injuries that could have been caused. If
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Speaker 1: these were four, you can get physical injuries as well,
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Speaker 1: and then we do a detailed genital exam where we
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a very invasive exam. We have them
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Speaker 1: lie down, we open their legs, we look at their
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Speaker 1: genitalia and we look for any abnormalities. And then meanwhile
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Speaker 1: we swab if they're within that acute phase. Sometimes it's
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Speaker 1: four sometimes it's five days, depending on the jurisdiction. Within
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Speaker 1: the assault, we collect evidence and then that goes to
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Speaker 1: the crime lab and all throughout that the patients they
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Speaker 1: have a lot of different reactions. You know, they're telling
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Speaker 1: their story. They have to recap the details that they've
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Speaker 1: already told it the police, already told to their parents,
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Speaker 1: already told to their friends, and now they're telling a nurse,
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Speaker 1: another stranger. So it's it's a traumatic experience to even
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Speaker 1: have to just sit through that that We just list
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Speaker 1: in and you know, they respond differently. Sometimes they cry,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they're laughing. They have different reactions to trauma, and
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Speaker 1: we go through that process with them and each story
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Speaker 1: is different, and you know, we explain to them that
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Speaker 1: there's different responses. There's the fight, flight or freeze. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: they feel guilty because they just froze, but we explain
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Speaker 1: that that's a natural response. And we take care of
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Speaker 1: them medically, and we collect the evidence and we send
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Speaker 1: it off to law enforcement so that they can do
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Speaker 1: their investigation, and we go through, you know, the what's next,
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Speaker 1: how many medications do you have to take? How many
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Speaker 1: shots do we have to give you? Now? What were
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Speaker 1: you exposed to? We go through all those details of
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Speaker 1: what happened to see how we can now help take
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Speaker 1: care of them. In that moment with me, Rachel Fisher
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Speaker 1: Rachel D. Fisher and highly educated author, registered nurse saying
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Speaker 1: sex salt nurse examiner, Rachel, when you say you look
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Speaker 1: for evidence head to toe. You look for lacerations, cuts, contusions, bruises.
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Speaker 1: You look to see the victims arms and legs are dirty.
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Speaker 1: For instance, the brock Turner case out in California, the
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Speaker 1: victim was the rape victim was assaulted on the ground
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Speaker 1: by the dumpster behind the frat house. She's pine straw
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Speaker 1: in her hair, covered in dirt. And then when you
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Speaker 1: do the pelvic exam, you look for internal bruising within
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Speaker 1: the vagina, possible lacerations, all sorts of things that may
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Speaker 1: not be visible to the naked eye. And also conduct
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Speaker 1: a swab as you said, which is like a long
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Speaker 1: queue tip that goes up the vagina and you're swabbing
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Speaker 1: for sperm for seamen which later very likely will be
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Speaker 1: connected via DNA to a defendant. Was that a good
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Speaker 1: recap of what you just said? It is, yes, But
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Speaker 1: sometimes there are no visible injuries. Even in the genital exam.
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Speaker 1: We actually don't go in to the exam expecting there
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Speaker 1: to be trauma because in a majority of sex assault
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Speaker 1: victims we don't see any injury. It's usually just the swabs,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes the swabs don't even get make it to
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Speaker 1: the lab. There's a backlog, there's oh yeah, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of time waiting. So it's you know, when you
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Speaker 1: hear their story and we find sticks in their hair,
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Speaker 1: we find gravel, We collect all of those things and
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Speaker 1: send them there to help you corroborate their story to
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Speaker 1: say what it's consistent with. But you know, you brought
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Speaker 1: just says something really interesting. Everything you've said is interesting.
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Speaker 1: But doctor Bethany Marshall, you got a girl with sticks
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Speaker 1: in her hair and gravel, and someone actually tries to
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Speaker 1: say that was consensual. Nancy, It's it's just phenomenal. I
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Speaker 1: think that what happens in these cases is the victim
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Speaker 1: gets overlooked and the perpetrator is prized by society. And
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Speaker 1: this is a very gender related problem that we see.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen year olds and sixteen, fifteen, fifty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen
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Speaker 1: year old boys, especially white boys, is in the prime
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Speaker 1: of their sexual life. They're just beginning their sexual life.
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Speaker 1: They're going to conquer society, they're going to have babies,
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Speaker 1: they're going to have families. And I'm talking to you
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Speaker 1: about sticks and gravel in the air. That is not
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Speaker 1: consensual sex. Well, maybe I just did what society does.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about how great the purp is, right,
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Speaker 1: but I want to hear about the girl. I want
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Speaker 1: to hear about what happened. Is Dallas Stallar and then
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Speaker 1: Carl her father with us. She later took her own life.
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Speaker 1: Before your daughter passed away, she was bullied. She was
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Speaker 1: bullied about making this claim, this rape claim, Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Why were people bullying her, ma'am, that's a question I
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Speaker 1: asked myself all the time. It's unfortunately it's kind of
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Speaker 1: a he just doesn't make it right by any stretch
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Speaker 1: of imagination, because I don't view it that way at all,
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Speaker 1: But it's kind of indict of of our area. They're
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Speaker 1: in a fairly decent sized town, but it's still small
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Speaker 1: by standard, and a lot of people know each other,
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Speaker 1: and they draw the line in the sand and they
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Speaker 1: start talking and they don't stop, and the kids kids
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Speaker 1: chime in, and even worse, the adults and snowballs from there.
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Speaker 1: I was studying your case and I heard that even
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Speaker 1: some teachers bullied her, Yes, ma'am. That's my understanding that
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Speaker 1: there were some that were involved. Yes, ma'am. I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at your daughter's picture right right now, just so beautiful.
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Speaker 1: What really speaks to me is that big, beautiful smile
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Speaker 1: of hers. Now. As if that's not enough, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut to our friends at WCSC. But
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Speaker 1: less than five months after that first arrest, while he
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Speaker 1: was still out on bond, court documents show Turner was
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Speaker 1: arrested again. He was slapped with that same charge, first
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Speaker 1: degree criminal sexual conduct, and affidavit reveals the arrest also
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Speaker 1: stems from a party, this time in Orangeburg County. The
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Speaker 1: victim was not named because she was a miner at
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Speaker 1: the time, but Chloe Bess says she was the one
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Speaker 1: sexually assaulted by Turner in June of twenty nineteen when
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Speaker 1: she was sixteen. I just remember being like so petrified,
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Speaker 1: like I was frozen. I honestly just remember sitting there
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Speaker 1: looking at the stars. She's like praying for it to
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Speaker 1: be done, just waiting for it to be overworked, like
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Speaker 1: you a runaway. You're hearing the voice of Chloe Bess,
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Speaker 1: another rape victim though in Turners and with me right
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Speaker 1: now he is Chloe, Yes, Chloe. I've had grown women
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Speaker 1: refuse to tell a jury look him in the face
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Speaker 1: after they've told me tot a rape nurse tole an
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Speaker 1: investigator that they were right. They're bloody there, they're filthy,
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Speaker 1: They've got mud on their legs, there's blood on the
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Speaker 1: inside of their legs, and when they get in front
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Speaker 1: of a jury, they just can't state what happened to them.
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Speaker 1: They feel like it's their fault. They're embarrassed. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. Thank you, of course, on behalf
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Speaker 1: of all sex victims. And you'd be very surprised to
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Speaker 1: find out who is a sex victim that you may
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Speaker 1: not suspect, Right, Chloe, what happened that night, as best
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Speaker 1: as you can tell us. You know, I was, you know,
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Speaker 1: just trying to have a normal night. I was in
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Speaker 1: high school, sixteen, you know. I went out with my
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Speaker 1: best friend at the time and I had a twin brothers,
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Speaker 1: so she was with me and we went to a party,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't thinking thinking anything of it. Um,
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Speaker 1: this is one of those things where you know, you
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Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen until it happens to you.
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Speaker 1: So it's not even a thought in my head that
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Speaker 1: this was even a possibility of happening. And so basically,
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Speaker 1: long story short, I stepped outside at one point to
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Speaker 1: make a phone call, and he walked out and he
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Speaker 1: ended up pulling me behind a truck on a tree
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Speaker 1: line outside by the woods. And next thing I know,
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Speaker 1: I'm on the ground and I'm very tiny. He was
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Speaker 1: not so and also just being so scared. When you're
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Speaker 1: aware of what's going on, I froze. Unfortunately. I wish
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Speaker 1: that I didn't, but that was my reaction. And so
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Speaker 1: I remember feeling what he was doing, what was going on,
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Speaker 1: and I mean, I was just frozen with fear on
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Speaker 1: the inside. I was yelling, I was screaming. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to kick and scream, but it was just like my body,
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't move. So that's when you heard me say that.
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Speaker 1: At that point, I was just kind of waiting for
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Speaker 1: it to be overweighth so at that point I could
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Speaker 1: run away. And that's what happened. And I ended up
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Speaker 1: in the bathroom at this house, and I was looking
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Speaker 1: at myself in the mirror, and I had twigs and
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Speaker 1: leaves in my hair, my shirt was all astrewe and
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Speaker 1: it wasn't even like I was looking at myself. It
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Speaker 1: was a very weird moment for me. And then that's
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Speaker 1: when I peeked out the door, saw him asleep on
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Speaker 1: the couch, and I booked it out the door, ran
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Speaker 1: into the woods, hiding behind the bush. I called someone
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Speaker 1: to come get me, and at this point he comes
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Speaker 1: out and I was screaming my name, trying to find
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Speaker 1: me because he realized I was gone. So now I'm
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Speaker 1: even more scared because I don't want to think about
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Speaker 1: what would happen if he found me or you know.
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Speaker 1: So thankfully my friend was able to come get me Mathin.
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Speaker 1: I think it was like seven minutes, and at that
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Speaker 1: moment I got in the car and I felt a
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Speaker 1: little bit better, but I mean I was just hysterical.
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Speaker 1: So that's the short version, right, Yes, ma'am, did you
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Speaker 1: tell the police? Um? I did. UM, So I told
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Speaker 1: them like a day after UM because unfortunately, UM, I
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Speaker 1: was aware of Dallas's case and I saw um the
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Speaker 1: backlash she was getting, and that really scared me to
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Speaker 1: come forward. UM. I had just moved to this town
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Speaker 1: like a year and a half prior. I was the
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Speaker 1: new girl. I had, you know, already dealt with some
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Speaker 1: situations of bullying prior to this while being in the town. UM,
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Speaker 1: and I just didn't want another reason for people to
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Speaker 1: come at me. So it did take me about a
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Speaker 1: day to kind of come to terms with things. Um. So,
23:47
Speaker 1: June second, this happened. I ended up coming out with
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Speaker 1: it June third and went to the hospital. My parents
23:57
Speaker 1: were devastated, especially when they found out it was My
24:01
Speaker 1: mom said like she had to have the name repeated
24:03
Speaker 1: to her like three times because she just couldn't believe it.
24:06
Speaker 1: Let me understand this. So you go outside. You went
24:10
Speaker 1: with your brother and a friend. Did you say a
24:12
Speaker 1: twin brothers. You went with your twin brother and a friend.
24:17
Speaker 1: They went to go get something to eat, and they
24:19
Speaker 1: were coming back. That is when you were attacked outside
24:23
Speaker 1: in the night, taken behind a vehicle at a tree line,
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Speaker 1: thrown on the ground. You had this guy around two
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds on top of you. You were raped. You said,
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Speaker 1: you looked at the stars and waited for it to
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Speaker 1: be over. You went in, You looked at a mirror
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Speaker 1: and felt like it wasn't even you. That's called an
24:44
Speaker 1: out of body Nothing seems real, Okay, Katie Cayman joining
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Speaker 1: me Live five News investigative reporter at Katie Cayman TV.
24:57
Speaker 1: Why is this guy. And there's another minor, a minor
25:02
Speaker 1: his name we're not revealing that was also attack in
25:06
Speaker 1: the same way. Free rate victims. Why is this guy
25:12
Speaker 1: walking free? Katie Cayman, I mean to that, I I
25:19
Speaker 1: don't even know that I have an answer to that.
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Speaker 1: Did this? What judge would let a three time rapist
25:26
Speaker 1: walk free? What because his daddy works at the DA's office. Well,
25:29
Speaker 1: it was Judge Dennis, I understand though it was also
25:34
Speaker 1: an involved a conversation with prosecutors as well before it
25:37
Speaker 1: even got in front of the judge. So I think
25:40
Speaker 1: it was unfortunately not just something that happened that day
25:44
Speaker 1: in the courtroom, but some things have been happening in
25:47
Speaker 1: the weeks and months prior leading up to that as well.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Isn't it true? Sarah Ford?
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Speaker 1: Sarah Ford with me, legal director, South Carolina Victims Assistant Network,
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Speaker 1: former prosecutor. You can find her on Facebook, scv A
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Speaker 1: n the South Carolina Victims Assistant Network, Legal Services program
26:28
Speaker 1: and professor at South Carolina State University. Sarah, isn't it
26:34
Speaker 1: true that even when a prosecution and a defense reach
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Speaker 1: a deal, the judge doesn't have to take it the
26:44
Speaker 1: judge can say, h e w l n oh, this
26:48
Speaker 1: guy's going to jewelry's going to a jury right now,
26:51
Speaker 1: Isn't that true? Absolutely? Absolutely, And that's why on behalf
26:56
Speaker 1: these victims, we filed motions to be heard prior to
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Speaker 1: the police because these victims clearly did not agree with
27:04
Speaker 1: the recommendation that the state was making. No way would
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Speaker 1: they agree with this. I mean, mister Starr, really straight probation.
27:14
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Did they even ask you?
27:16
Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? No, ma'am, not at all. And we
27:19
Speaker 1: were just told, basically, we were one hundred percent told
27:23
Speaker 1: that that was what it was going to be and
27:24
Speaker 1: that was it. So man I could chew a nail
27:27
Speaker 1: and half Sarah Ford, did the DA's office recuse themselves
27:31
Speaker 1: since the purp's dad weren't for the DA's office. They did.
27:36
Speaker 1: This was sent to the second Circuit Solicitor's office over
27:41
Speaker 1: an ac in South Carolina. They did recuse themselves. But
27:45
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're in South Carolina, you know, small
27:48
Speaker 1: town's county right next door to us. But unfortunately, with
27:53
Speaker 1: this case, there are multiple victims, multiple counties, multiple circuits,
27:58
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, you know what happened last week, and what
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Speaker 1: these victims had experienced over the past years and months.
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Speaker 1: It's an injustice. It's amazing to me, Sarah Ford. You
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Speaker 1: heard Dallas's father, his daughter was raped and then was
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Speaker 1: bullied extensively, unbearably, and she took her all one. They
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Speaker 1: didn't even ask him. What kind of an operation is
28:28
Speaker 1: going on, Judge Dennis, I mean, what are they thinking.
28:33
Speaker 1: We were noted bied last week, Nancy, that they were
28:37
Speaker 1: going to dismiss the case in which Dallas Dollar was
28:40
Speaker 1: the victim, and that they were moving forward on the
28:44
Speaker 1: case in which Clue was a victim and allowing the
28:47
Speaker 1: defendant deplete guilty to assault and battery first for a
28:51
Speaker 1: probationary senate. So they just told you this is it.
28:55
Speaker 1: Take it or you know, just take it. There's nothing
28:59
Speaker 1: you can do about it. I'd expressed to the Solicitor's
29:02
Speaker 1: office as well as the families had that the sex
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Speaker 1: offender registry was really a non negotiable for them, that
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Speaker 1: that was essential, and that particularly after noting that the
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Speaker 1: defendant did not comply with any of the conditions of
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Speaker 1: his bond. Oh you know what, Sarah Ford, You are
29:21
Speaker 1: so right. Take a listen to our cut three our
29:23
Speaker 1: friends at wc SC. With Turner out on bond, the
29:27
Speaker 1: months marched on. The victims and their families say they
29:30
Speaker 1: attempted to navigate the judicial system while also tackling the
29:34
Speaker 1: lingering trauma. There's not a day since this happened that
29:37
Speaker 1: I have not woken up and thought about it. Dallas.
29:39
Speaker 1: His family says, the trauma, the gossip and stress weighed
29:43
Speaker 1: heavy on her even after high school until last fall.
29:47
Speaker 1: We lost our sister on November fourteenth, and that changed everything. Now,
29:58
Speaker 1: nearly four years after that first alleged assault, the Best
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Speaker 1: family has moved out of state, the Staller family has
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Speaker 1: lost Dallas, and Turner should have been awaiting trial at
30:08
Speaker 1: his home with his GPS monitor, but court documents show
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Speaker 1: that's not been the case. To me, it's definitely a
30:15
Speaker 1: slap in the face, isn't it true? Katie came and
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Speaker 1: joining us from line five that he was out on
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Speaker 1: bond for one rape when he raped Chloe. Yes, that
30:28
Speaker 1: is what we found through court documents that that was
30:30
Speaker 1: the case. And then when he was out on bond,
30:33
Speaker 1: those court documents show that he was violating the conditions
30:37
Speaker 1: of his bond dozens of times. I think potentially even
30:41
Speaker 1: near fifty times. Break it down for me when you
30:43
Speaker 1: say violating. Yes, right there, he went to golf courses
30:48
Speaker 1: while he's supposed to be on house arrest with a
30:50
Speaker 1: GPS monitor on his ankle. Where did he go? He
30:54
Speaker 1: went to multiple golf courses in the state. He went
30:57
Speaker 1: to a Brazilian steakhouse, Dick Sporting good Dick's Sporting Girl.
31:02
Speaker 1: You mean, when my little girl is in the changing
31:06
Speaker 1: room at Dick's, I've got this rapist wandering around with
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Speaker 1: an ankle monitor on right outside her door. Well in
31:16
Speaker 1: ye recommends show he was there at Dick Sporting Goods
31:20
Speaker 1: and numerous other restaurants and other stores all across South Carolina.
31:24
Speaker 1: And like I said, even um at a car dealership
31:27
Speaker 1: and gas station across state lines in Brunswick, Georgia, and
31:31
Speaker 1: nobody did a darned thing, Is that right, Katie King? Yes,
31:36
Speaker 1: that is unfortunately the case, even after it was brought
31:41
Speaker 1: to the attention of solicitors, and you know, they filed
31:46
Speaker 1: a motion to Um you know, I guess provoke his bond.
31:51
Speaker 1: That was what the whole hearing was initially supposed to be.
31:53
Speaker 1: He was still able to be out on house arrest
31:57
Speaker 1: with that GPS monitor. He was not immediately put in
31:59
Speaker 1: jay despite all of those bond violations. Two Sarah Ford,
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Speaker 1: Dallas's case was dropped reportedly because Dallas died. This little girl,
32:12
Speaker 1: this ten girl, died after all of the bullying and
32:17
Speaker 1: trolling when she made a rape plane, she killed herself. Now,
32:23
Speaker 1: isn't it true, Sarah Ford, that murder cases a tribe
32:27
Speaker 1: all the time without a victim, aren't they? Aren't they?
32:31
Speaker 1: That's correct? And aren't cases across the board tried after
32:36
Speaker 1: a victim or a witness has passed away? Is it
32:40
Speaker 1: that true? It is true, And there was substantial evidence
32:43
Speaker 1: in this case. You know, even if the state felt
32:46
Speaker 1: that they could not prosecute at the ternal sexual conduct level,
32:51
Speaker 1: certainly there was even a witness who observed bow and
32:55
Speaker 1: Turner over Dallas Dollar. So there was evidence that what
33:02
Speaker 1: did the witness see, Sarah. The witness observed go and
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Speaker 1: Turner gamming up and dipping up his pants, and Dallas
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Speaker 1: Dollar was on the ground. I mean, mister Staller, the
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Speaker 1: dignity of him getting up and zipping up his pants
33:18
Speaker 1: and her lying there on the ground like that, It
33:21
Speaker 1: just I can hardly take it in. How do you
33:25
Speaker 1: deal with this every day and day out, ma'am? It
33:28
Speaker 1: halts me every day the thought of that, and but
33:33
Speaker 1: it's it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, and then to be and
33:37
Speaker 1: then to be uh used by the system is even
33:44
Speaker 1: it's no more heartbreaking than seeing imagine what my daughter
33:47
Speaker 1: went through and seeing that, however, it's really aggravating and
33:53
Speaker 1: really ticks me off. That just Deputy Solicitor David Miller
33:59
Speaker 1: clearly clear and I've emphasized this multiple times, and I
34:02
Speaker 1: may get a little passion about this, and I apologize
34:04
Speaker 1: that he clearly clearly defied a direct court order that
34:08
Speaker 1: was issued out of Lee County, South Carolina at a
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Speaker 1: bond hearing that the Second Judicial Solicitor's Office a pun
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Speaker 1: notification of violations of conditions of bond, but to order immediately,
34:23
Speaker 1: and I stressed immediately. That was in caps, ma'am, immediate
34:27
Speaker 1: arrest of the one turner, not wait two minutes, two
34:31
Speaker 1: days to two months, let's cut a deal kind of things.
34:34
Speaker 1: Let's let's get him right now and then he'll be
34:36
Speaker 1: held into custody until hearing could be set or bond revocation.
34:42
Speaker 1: And that did not happen. That did not happen, and
34:46
Speaker 1: he had that that solicitor had a duty, he had
34:49
Speaker 1: a duty to enforce that judge's court order. And I
34:54
Speaker 1: questioned over and over and over again why there aren't
34:58
Speaker 1: consequences for him and the defense attorney's side, this should
35:01
Speaker 1: be consequences for him too, because he is an officer
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Speaker 1: of court in South Carolina. He knows he became aware
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Speaker 1: the moment those frontouts came out that his client had
35:11
Speaker 1: violated that GPS monitor agreement. He was obligated lawfully to say, hey,
35:16
Speaker 1: I need to turn my client in. You're in a
35:18
Speaker 1: problem here. I've got and that there's no question about that.
35:23
Speaker 1: And I work in law enforcement too in South Carolina,
35:26
Speaker 1: and I know that my badge doesn't protect me. If
35:29
Speaker 1: I the five court order or I'm going to jail,
35:32
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and he should be locked up. He shouldn't
35:36
Speaker 1: be a solicitor. He should be charging misconduct and officer.
35:39
Speaker 1: There's numerous things that should happen, but they're not going
35:41
Speaker 1: to happen. And it's because of all the power and
35:45
Speaker 1: the bs that goes on that's that this point might period.
35:48
Speaker 1: And I'm so upset about it. I do not know
35:50
Speaker 1: what to do. It doesn't would not change what happened
35:53
Speaker 1: to Corey, will not change what happened to Dallas. It
35:55
Speaker 1: will not change what happened to me the other young lady. However,
35:59
Speaker 1: it will will speak if something would be done. It
36:02
Speaker 1: will speak to saying, hey, there are consequences for not
36:05
Speaker 1: doing my job. And I asked him point blank when
36:08
Speaker 1: he talked to us by zoom, wouldn't come meet with
36:10
Speaker 1: us in person? I asked him point blank, did you
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Speaker 1: do you feel like you did an adequate job and
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Speaker 1: trying to prosecute my daughter's case? He said to me easily, Yes,
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Speaker 1: an adequate job. And I'm going I can tell you
36:24
Speaker 1: right now, mister Staller, a case can be tried without
36:28
Speaker 1: a victim. Yes, ma'am, I know that. I know that
36:30
Speaker 1: for a fact, because I've done it more. I can't
36:33
Speaker 1: even count the times I've done it. Chloe Bess. Were
36:36
Speaker 1: you in the courtroom when bow and Turner his father's
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Speaker 1: walk Turner who works with the DA's office. Were you
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Speaker 1: there when he got straight probation? Oh, yes, ma'am, I
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Speaker 1: was there. What was your reaction, Chloe, this is the
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Speaker 1: guy that raped you. I was extremely disappointed. I kind
36:57
Speaker 1: of walked in there already knowing what was and it happened. Because,
37:01
Speaker 1: like we've said, I think this was obviously a preplanned thing.
37:06
Speaker 1: This didn't just had or this wasn't just decided when
37:10
Speaker 1: we walked in. There were a lot of things behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes that I think it happened. When you heard it,
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Speaker 1: the judge stating probation, he's not even gonna have to
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Speaker 1: register as a sex offender, what went through your mind?
37:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely disgusted A. Paul. I could not believe what was
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Speaker 1: unfolding in front of my eyes because to know there
37:32
Speaker 1: was a possibility of it happening, and then actually watching
37:34
Speaker 1: it happen right in front of me, I mean, it
37:37
Speaker 1: was very surreal. I just couldn't believe that that was
37:41
Speaker 1: even an option, Doctor Bethany, Doctor Bethany Marshall with me
37:45
Speaker 1: and renowned psychotherapists joining me out of Beverly Hills. Doctor Bethany,
37:50
Speaker 1: I think the worst thing that rape victims go through
37:53
Speaker 1: is that feeling you have flashbacks of being raped, I
37:57
Speaker 1: think being completely helpless. I've had victims tell me they
38:03
Speaker 1: felt like they were up above themselves looking down when
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Speaker 1: the rape happened. Which echoes what Chloe saw when she
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Speaker 1: looked in the mirror, that feeling of helpless less, there's
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Speaker 1: nothing you can do, and it lingers with a rape
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Speaker 1: victim forever, and Nancy think about this. He was so
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Speaker 1: frenzied and aggressive he threw poor little Chloe into the dirt.
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Speaker 1: And now he's roaming free, and he could stalk her,
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Speaker 1: he could predate upon her. I have three victims in
38:34
Speaker 1: my practice. One was predated upon constantly by a brother,
38:38
Speaker 1: one was raped repeatedly by an uncle, and one just
38:41
Speaker 1: the one time incident with her sister. All three are obese.
38:46
Speaker 1: They're very prominent members of society and successful, but all
38:50
Speaker 1: three are obese because they fear that if they're normal weight,
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Speaker 1: they will not be able to send off an attacker.
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Speaker 1: They're disregulated. They want to be in relationships, but the
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Speaker 1: tiniest little things their partners do to disappoint them or
39:06
Speaker 1: let them down send them into a terrified frenzy. They
39:12
Speaker 1: are anxious and panicky all day long. One leaves the
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Speaker 1: house without brushing her hair, and she's in her forties.
39:19
Speaker 1: Because she's so panicked, all these years later, she can't
39:23
Speaker 1: think to brush her own hair. She feels like a
39:25
Speaker 1: little orphan roaming the streets. So the consequences and they fascinate.
39:29
Speaker 1: You're just like it hurts to hear it, Katie Cayman,
39:35
Speaker 1: What if anything, it's the reaction in the community. Why
39:39
Speaker 1: are people taking this line down in South Carolina? I
39:42
Speaker 1: don't know that people are. I think finally, since this
39:46
Speaker 1: has come to light that people are outraged. We've gotten
39:50
Speaker 1: phone calls and I've gotten messages and emails just so
39:54
Speaker 1: upset about this case and how it's three girls, not
39:58
Speaker 1: an isolated inst three girls that we know of, Katie. Yeah,
40:05
Speaker 1: they're I think people are outraged that Bowen Turner is
40:09
Speaker 1: out on probation. That Hey, Katie, I noticed that the
40:13
Speaker 1: judge didn't want cameras in the courtroom. Isn't that right? Um?
40:17
Speaker 1: It was beyond that another out I was allowed to
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Speaker 1: go in there. I was denied access even though I
40:23
Speaker 1: said I was a member of the public. I guess so, Katie,
40:26
Speaker 1: that's the last thing Judge Didnis wanted was Katie came
40:29
Speaker 1: into the courtroom reporting on what he was doing. Well,
40:33
Speaker 1: guess what, judge. We all know. Now we wait as
40:37
Speaker 1: justice unfalls. Nancy Gray scrum story signy gone, goodbye. Then