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Too Hot For Teacher: Courtney Tillia Teaches Us How To Create Our Own OnlyFans Account! · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: to Misunderstood. I'm your host, Rachel Uchitel. You guys are
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  Speaker 1: in for a complete treat today if you have ever
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  Speaker 1: thought or wanted to really get into the OnlyFans community.
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  Speaker 1: stardom and to have this either as a side hustle
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of thought of it, but now we are
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  Speaker 1: giving you advice from a real pro on how to
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  Speaker 1: get started. My guest today is Courtney Telia. She transformed
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  Speaker 1: her life when she made the leap from teacher to
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  Speaker 1: OnlyFans model. Courtney went from food stamps to seven figures
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  Speaker 1: when she joined OnlyFans, and now she helps others to
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  Speaker 1: embrace their freedom, financial and personal, by teaching classes on
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  Speaker 1: how to break into the OnlyFans world, and she does
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  Speaker 1: a lot of life coaching. She's such an interesting person.
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  Speaker 1: She gives us the tips and tricks on how to
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  Speaker 1: get started and how to stand out. By the time
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  Speaker 1: I was done with this episode, I was ready to
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  Speaker 1: log on to OnlyFans and create my account and see
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  Speaker 1: how well I could do, maybe selling pictures of my feet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But I think you guys will be
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  Speaker 1: so into listening to her advice on how to get
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  Speaker 1: started if it really interests you. And even if it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't interest you, it's interesting to hear from someone who's
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  Speaker 1: made a success at it. So sit back and listen
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  Speaker 1: to Courtney Thielia.
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  Speaker 2: And they understood.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Courtney, for joining me. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: happy you're here. I've been trying to get you on
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  Speaker 1: the show since before I started my podcast. You are
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  Speaker 1: on my bucket list of people to help.
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  Speaker 3: Stop it.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I read your story when you came out,
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  Speaker 1: then they wrote about you in the post. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember thinking, this is so interesting that here, this woman is,
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  Speaker 1: that was a school teacher, a special ed teacher who
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  Speaker 1: was not making a lot of money and was trying
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  Speaker 1: to find, um, you know, supplemental income and also just
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  Speaker 1: decided to have the freedom to like express who she
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  Speaker 1: was and where she felt like she could grow and
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  Speaker 1: how well you're doing now. And then the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you were offering classes to other people in the education field,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought that was like genius.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And but I thought it was so perfect for my
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  Speaker 1: show in terms of being misunderstood because OnlyFans has such
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  Speaker 1: a stigma and people think you have to be like
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  Speaker 1: a porn star or have that mentality to be in
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  Speaker 1: that arena. And you just don't. So anyway, instead of
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  Speaker 1: me talking about it, I want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: But like start off just by telling us who you
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  Speaker 1: were as a person before your OnlyFans persona.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, like, I went the, like, actual, like,
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  Speaker 3: military route a little bit. Like, in high school, got
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  Speaker 3: my pilot's license, like, very, like, proper. Went to church, like,
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  Speaker 3: all those things. And then realized, like, the military thing
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  Speaker 3: wasn't for me. And became a special ed teacher. Taught
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  Speaker 3: kids that couldn't go to a public school because they
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  Speaker 3: were physically aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: And I did that for six years. Had concussions, like...
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  Speaker 3: very unique circumstances and just was like, wow, I'm miserable.
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  Speaker 3: And people are always like, oh, it's the money. It's money.
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  Speaker 3: That's one component of like a huge picture of like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the parents are really difficult. The administrations are difficult.
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  Speaker 3: Like kids are difficult. Curriculum is difficult. Like there's all
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  Speaker 3: these things that when you're in the field, you're like, oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Like this was much different than I maybe anticipated. And
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  Speaker 3: so after six years, I was like, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: like starting to fall apart. Like my marriage is starting
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  Speaker 3: to like have some issues because I'm so miserable. I
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  Speaker 3: can't show up as a mom. I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: like what I like anymore. Like, do I have hobbies
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  Speaker 3: or is there anything? And my husband came to me
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  Speaker 3: and he was like, this isn't going to continue to
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  Speaker 3: work anymore. Like we have to figure something out. And
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  Speaker 3: at that time we were just living off of my
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  Speaker 3: one teacher income because he had quit. He was a
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  Speaker 3: teacher as well to start his own business. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I don't even know what I like, but
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  Speaker 3: I know I like going to the gym. So I
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  Speaker 3: guess I'll do that. And so he's like, resign and
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  Speaker 3: do that. And so I resigned, finished out the school year,
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  Speaker 3: started like working as a personal trainer. Didn't really love
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  Speaker 3: that either. Started doing like life coaching, loved that and
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  Speaker 3: doing modeling at the same time. Just like my husband
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  Speaker 3: taking my progress pics, sexy little photos. Um, and then
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I really love this. I love modeling.
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  Speaker 3: I love expressing myself. And I love being able to
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  Speaker 3: help other women to feel that too.
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  Speaker 1: And what kind of modeling were you doing though at
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  Speaker 1: the time? Like, were you finding actual gigs?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, it was more for my personal thing and
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  Speaker 3: for social media. Um, and so I was doing bikini
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  Speaker 3: fitness stuff. My first ever like actual photo shoot, I
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  Speaker 3: did like fitness and laundry and the photographer was like,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to do any nude stuff? And this
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  Speaker 3: was somebody that I felt very comfortable with. I hadn't
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  Speaker 3: actually met him, but many of my friends had shot
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  Speaker 3: with him. And I was like, yeah, actually I do.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I felt so at home with
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  Speaker 3: myself and like free. And I was like, this is
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  Speaker 3: crazy because this is the opposite of what I thought
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  Speaker 3: I would feel being nude in front of somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I would feel terrible and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: slut shamed and all these things. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I actually want all women to feel at home with
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  Speaker 3: themselves the way I do. And that's kind of where
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  Speaker 3: the journey began.
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  Speaker 1: So were you making any money though, doing any of
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  Speaker 1: these test shots or these modeling shots or they were,
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  Speaker 1: they were, you were just putting them up on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 3: I was just putting them up on Instagram. And actually
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  Speaker 3: at the time, my husband ran my Instagram because I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a clue. And he would put them up there.
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  Speaker 3: And after like a few months before, like, hey, do
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  Speaker 3: you do custom content? Like, do you do things like that?
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  Speaker 3: And this was way before OnlyFans existed. Yeah. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: I was still a struggling teacher. And I was like, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: people are offering me hundreds of dollars for like a
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  Speaker 3: couple minute video, which takes me a full week as
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  Speaker 3: a teacher. And so at first I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know how I feel about this.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was like, honestly, I got kids to feed.
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  Speaker 3: I got bills to pay. And so I made a
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  Speaker 3: couple and I was like, actually, that was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: And I kind of like the money of it too.
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  Speaker 1: So, and how did your husband, how did your husband
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  Speaker 1: feel about you doing that?
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  Speaker 3: So supportive. He was the one filming it. And he
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  Speaker 3: was the one in the like DMs too, because he
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  Speaker 3: ran my page at that time. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So he was.
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  Speaker 1: Also making sure that this was all a work gig
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  Speaker 1: and nothing else suspicious was going on. So how did
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  Speaker 1: you get into the OnlyFans world? How did you figure
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  Speaker 1: that out? And also I think what's misunderstood is like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think that to be an OnlyFans model,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be like, you know, someone who's been
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  Speaker 1: like sucking dick for a living or, you know, been
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  Speaker 1: really aggressive sexually to like all of a sudden want
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  Speaker 1: to be that type of person. And I, I do
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  Speaker 1: not think that that's the case, but you tell me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I feel like everyone that I've met in the
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  Speaker 3: only fan space is like a real entrepreneur. And it's
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  Speaker 3: like women who are buying property or paying for their
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  Speaker 3: parents to have like great livings or paying off college stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like everyone's like really after it. Um, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we get misunderstood by people think that this was my
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  Speaker 3: only career option that I like had to turn to OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 3: Like I was a year away from my PhD. I'm
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  Speaker 3: very educated. I'm married. I have four kids. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think when people actually get to know me, it
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  Speaker 3: actually does make them question the ideas that they had
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  Speaker 3: about who's an OnlyFans girl, right? Because you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: she had nothing else. She couldn't do anything else.
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  Speaker 1: She can only use her sexuality to get anywhere in
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  Speaker 1: this world.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Versus like, I already had a career. I have
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  Speaker 3: a full life coaching business that fully sustains. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I love doing this. And I started OnlyFans
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  Speaker 3: in 2019 before the pandemic. And I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: saw people kind of hopping on it. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I have all these beautiful pictures that I love.
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  Speaker 3: I can't post them on social media anymore due to
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  Speaker 3: community guidelines.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And if I could post them, maybe make like 500
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  Speaker 3: bucks a month. I live in LA. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that's a car payment. That's gas, whatever. That would be amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And so I got on and in the first month
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  Speaker 3: I made 1500 and I was like, this is pretty great.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm already doing the shoots. I already have the content.
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  Speaker 3: I'm making money off of what I already love to do.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I got started.
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  Speaker 1: So how long did it take you to build up
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  Speaker 1: a following where you started to see the momentum?
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  Speaker 3: I would say, I mean, I made $ 500.
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  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 2: for it?
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  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
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  Speaker 5: Where?
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  Speaker 3: Dune ADL.
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  Speaker 4: Dune DL? There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage!
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 6: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: Three months for the first, probably six months. And then
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  Speaker 3: maybe like close to 2020, obviously everything has shifted. People
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  Speaker 3: are all online. That's when everything really took off. I
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  Speaker 3: had also created a free page at the time. Um,
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  Speaker 3: so people could buy pay-per-view content. And so I had
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  Speaker 3: both pages running. And so that's when I started making
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  Speaker 3: like five figures plus.
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  Speaker 1: So COVID was like the perfect thing for your business.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I'm so many ways life coaching too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But okay. So now let's get into the details though,
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  Speaker 1: because I think that's what's really important for people and
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  Speaker 1: what they really want to find out from you, which
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  Speaker 1: is like, How do they get started and how do
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  Speaker 1: they get, I mean, the whole thing of it is
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  Speaker 1: to make money, you need to have the viewers or
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  Speaker 1: the people that are going to subscribe, right? And so
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  Speaker 1: for anyone that is sitting at home listening to this
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  Speaker 1: right now and they're like, but I have such a
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  Speaker 1: small following or I want to keep my anonymity so
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  Speaker 1: I don't want people to know who I am. but
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  Speaker 1: they can buy on my page or subscribe and then
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  Speaker 1: they can get to know me, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: keep things quiet. Like let's get into that whole conversation
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  Speaker 1: because people I think are so hesitant because they don't
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  Speaker 1: really know where to start.
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  Speaker 3: Totally get that. Obviously having a platform helps. However, I've
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  Speaker 3: lost my Instagram going on 18 times in the last year. Why?
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  Speaker 3: And so I, that's a whole nother topic of like
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  Speaker 3: this whole underground scam happening with social media. And they
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  Speaker 3: exploit people with big followings and make them pay to
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  Speaker 3: get their social media back. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 3: heard about that.
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  Speaker 1: I have, but that's crazy that that keeps happening over
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  Speaker 1: and over to you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's wild. But anyway, so saying that,
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  Speaker 3: I don't actually have much of a following. At this time,
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  Speaker 3: mine went down literally again this morning. And so I'm
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  Speaker 3: at like $ 30, 000, which is good, but it's not like
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  Speaker 3: millions of what maybe people maybe perceive that they have.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, there's so many ways to go viral,
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  Speaker 3: to put yourself out there and keep... your identity private. Um,
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  Speaker 3: I think TikTok is the most brilliant way to go
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  Speaker 3: viral to, and to even keep your identity private because
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  Speaker 3: the platform is made for people to go viral. So
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  Speaker 3: you can make a video of you, nothing sexual, um, cooking,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you love, have it going to a separate platform.
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  Speaker 3: your Instagram, wherever they go to, where they can find
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  Speaker 3: that link. Um, and I've made so much money off
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  Speaker 3: of Tik TOK. Other great ways are like Twitter, obviously
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  Speaker 3: Reddit's a big one. I'm not super familiar with that one,
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  Speaker 3: but I have friends who use it. And that one's
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  Speaker 3: really great at keeping your identity private because you literally
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: have people who cut their head off of their photo,
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  Speaker 3: remove any tattoos or identifying marks and posts photos and
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  Speaker 3: people subscribe like crazy to that.
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  Speaker 1: So, all right, wait, let's get to the very basic
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  Speaker 1: start of this. How do you sign up for OnlyFans?
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  Speaker 3: You go to the website, you sign up, you have
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: to like confirm your identity with like driver's license, like
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: email address, username. And then they verify your identity, which
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: is really important because then it means that other people
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  Speaker 3: aren't using your photos and that they're, and with the
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: new owner of OnlyFans, they've made it even more, what's
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  Speaker 3: the word? They're making sure that, yeah, they're making sure
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  Speaker 3: that you are who you say you are and that
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  Speaker 3: you're going to post the photos of you and not
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  Speaker 3: somebody else. Right. So like originally photographers were on there
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  Speaker 3: a lot and posting photos of models they had shot,
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  Speaker 3: which was a big thing. And that's really gotten cleaned up. Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the privacy thing and the verification has become a
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  Speaker 1: very big deal.
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  Speaker 3: A very big deal. Okay. So that's good.
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  Speaker 1: So people can sign up. That will take a couple minutes.
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  Speaker 1: And then, um, and then when.
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  Speaker 3: They take 24 hours for identity to like go through,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, it'll be pretty quick. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So then that happens. And then what happens? Then you
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  Speaker 1: are ready to go. Then your account is open and
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  Speaker 1: ready to make money.
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  Speaker 3: You put in, you put in your bank information and
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: now you're officially ready to make money. Now what I
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: would do is I would go on Tik TOK and
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  Speaker 3: I would start making Tik TOKs, whatever you like. And like,
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  Speaker 3: I really mean this. It doesn't need to be sexual.
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  Speaker 3: It can be planting, baking, coloring, makeup, anything, painting nails, anything.
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  Speaker 3: mixing paint. Like it really can be anything. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: you really don't have to show your identity in this.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's so many ways of doing it. And then
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  Speaker 3: you have to have a way for them to get
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  Speaker 3: to you. So it would leak it to an Instagram,
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  Speaker 3: probably not your personal one. If you're trying to be private, um,
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  Speaker 3: and have a link there, do not put an OnlyFans
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  Speaker 3: link or a website link that has an OnlyFans and
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  Speaker 3: a TikTok. You will be removed so fast.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's really good. Um, Now, do you think that people
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  Speaker 1: that show their face have a better time of getting
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  Speaker 1: more subscribers or if someone just has, you know, body
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  Speaker 1: shots and they're sexy and they're beautiful? And by the way, anyone,
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  Speaker 1: what I found is it doesn't matter kind of what
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  Speaker 1: your body looks like because there's someone for everyone. Like
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  Speaker 1: people might.
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  Speaker 3: Love- Thousand percent. Thank you for saying that.
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  Speaker 1: Some people might love super skinny. Some people might love
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  Speaker 1: totally flat and no boobs. So the game is open
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  Speaker 1: to anyone, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. You really don't have to be like society's
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  Speaker 3: idea of what pretty is, which I don't like that
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  Speaker 3: idea anyway, but it literally is open to anybody. Like
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  Speaker 3: you can literally make a killing. There's a woman I
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  Speaker 3: know she's in her fifties and she makes way more
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  Speaker 3: than I make. Right. Cause people are always like, what
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  Speaker 3: are you going to do when you age out of it?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, boo, I haven't even hit my prime.
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  Speaker 3: Are you serious? Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, but do you think it's harder for people that
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: don't show their face that show for their neck down? Like,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: do you think it gives something more to the viewer
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• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I think it goes both ways, right? There's this idea
• 16:37
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• 16:41
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• 17:00
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  Speaker 1: stand out? Why are people paying for subscription to one
• 18:42
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• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Why for only fans? Yeah. People are mass. People are
• 18:49
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• 18:53
  Speaker 3: platform is so big versus like some of these other
• 18:55
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• 18:58
  Speaker 3: to you and you and you and you and you,
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  Speaker 3: and I can check all my people at once. The
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: same as when you go to Instagram, you can check
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: all your people you follow at once. And so people
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: are mass subscribing to a bunch of people. That's why
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: they always say like, do you think the market's saturated? No,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: because like people are, you can follow as many Instagram people. Yes,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you're paying, but people want to see a bunch of
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: people all at once.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So now I know there are companies that you can
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: hire to help you with the content, to decide what
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you wear, what the lighting is, and they take like 30%.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: What do you think about those companies? Do people need
• 19:31
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• 19:33
  Speaker 3: No, they're absolutely trash. I can't stand these companies. I'm sorry.
• 19:39
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• 19:41
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• 19:43
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• 19:46
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• 19:54
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• 20:00
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• 20:03
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• 20:06
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• 20:07
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• 20:12
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• 20:14
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans takes 20%. Then you have a company taking 30%
• 20:18
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• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And to be honest, people don't want the perfect lighting,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the perfect Photoshopped photo, the perfect smooth out skin. They
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: don't want it. They want to see the real you.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: They're like the selfie. They want that almost like girlfriend experience,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: like that selfie at home that makes it feel like
• 20:37
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• 20:39
  Speaker 3: don't want that other stuff. Right. So I would say
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• 20:48
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• 20:55
  Speaker 3: not only by paying them, but they aren't getting their
• 20:57
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• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So the question I asked you before you, you were
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: saying there's space for everyone and people are subscribing to
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but like a girl that I know. So
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I interviewed the girl from money shop from the, um,
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• 21:14
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• 21:27
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• 21:38
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• 21:43
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• 21:46
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• 22:08
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• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Do you give them advice?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. So you're helping all the women out there.
• 22:17
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• 22:35
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• 22:37
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• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you're doing that unless they subscribe. Like you're not putting
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• 22:44
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• 22:45
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• 22:46
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• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So you'll say, sign up, go to my subscribe page
• 22:51
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• 22:55
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• 22:55
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• 22:56
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• 22:58
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• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Well, Elon Musk is back in the running. I guess
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: all sorts of things are happening. Um, so that.
• 23:05
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• 23:08
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• 23:10
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• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So that was a question I had though. I see
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  Speaker 1: a lot on Instagram or wherever, um, feeds that are
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: half naked of people.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And that seems like it's free. Well, it is free
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: because I'm looking at it and I don't even know
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: who these people are. So how does that then translate
• 23:27
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• 23:30
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• 23:34
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• 23:36
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• 23:39
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• 24:30
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• 27:17
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• 27:19
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• 27:22
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• 27:26
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  Speaker 3: that you use for like lighting, but I wouldn't spend
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of money investing in a bunch of equipment.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Like it's really not necessary. Okay.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Good advice. And then how many times does someone need
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to post a photo versus a video throughout the day? for,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: for their subscribers to feel like they're getting their money's worth.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say between three to four and a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: variety photo, video, whatever you feel called to make. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: do boomerangs too. Um, but I like to post at
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: least three to four times a day, but I sell
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: content like a pay-per-view content between eight and 15 times
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: a day.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: So that means, so like I'm posting on, but remember
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I've done this for a while. I have a lot
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of content. I make content weekly. Um, and so like
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I'm posting three to four times a day and then
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I'm selling videos in their DMS eight to 15 and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: they go out like every hour to two hours. Okay.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So now talk about the DMS. Cause that's like another
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: place to make money on top of the subscription.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Okay. Tell us all about that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. So in the DMs, I will set, you can,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: you want to do two things. We want to connect
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: with people, right? Good morning. How are you? We want
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: to generate conversation. We want people to feel connected. And
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: then we also want to sell them things. So maybe it's, okay,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: let's use your feet example. I took this great photo
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: of my feet in the bathtub. You want to see
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: me like actually massage my feet with some bubble bath.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: It's a three minute video. It's going in your DMs.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: selling it for five bucks. Right. And again, pricing is
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: what you feel good about. If you were like five bucks,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I spent 20 minutes making that video. I want to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: sell it for 10, do what you feel called to
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: do with pricing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Um, but are you writing this DM to just the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: people that reach out and say, um, Hey, I want
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to see, or you're writing it to everyone subscribing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Everybody subscribed. And another trick that I do is that
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: anybody who subscribed and then expires, right? Maybe they didn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: renew their subscription or whatever. I go back and follow them.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: And so if I have like on my free page,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I have 60,000 subscribers. I go back and follow anybody
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: who didn't renew. And so that I can also DM
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: them as well. And so now I'm not only DMing
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: people who follow me, but people who expired. And so
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I'm DMing a hundred thousand people this video, right? And
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: so they can still purchase your content. Wow.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Now I think I'm kind of savvy, but maybe I'm not.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Is there like a, some sort of button you hit
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to DM everyone at the same time, or you literally
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: have to go in?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yes. Nope. It'll say, who do you want to DM
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: this to? Do you want to hit it to your
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: following people who have renew on people who you can't
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: do expired? You can only do people you're following.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: So that's why you follow them back. So yeah, you
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: can go through and click in the like different lists
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: and it goes out in a mass DM and you
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: can set it on a, on a timer too. So
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: like genius set it up to where, yeah. So it's just,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: it's similar to social media in that way where you
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: can be like, I want this post to go out
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: at 8am. I want it to go back out at
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: 10am and the You know, like you can set it
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: to go auto send.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And what's your rate of return on something like that?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: How many people do you think you would be getting
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to buy that video on any given time that you're
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: promoting something?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Um, it, it depends. I don't, I should look at
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: my percentage. It is actually my percentages of opens, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I have a number goal per day that I want
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: to reach. That's kind of more what I base things
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: on is like how much money I want to make
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: per day. Um, and so that's what I kind of
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: look at.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: So, but I guess to answer my question, do you
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: think you're, that is helping in terms of getting to
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: hit that number a day?
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Yes. A thousand percent. It's a huge source of my
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: income is those DMS going out and people buying content.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, is because there's some, there are
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of people on the platform. We know that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people sending messages. If I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: sending a message, say I send a message at 8 AM,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I might send a follow-up message at 8 30 AM
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and be like, did you see this video I set above?
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Then another message at 9 AM. if I'm sending messages
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: staggered like that, I'm at the top of their inbox always. Right.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: So if they subscribe to 20 girls, they'll be like, Oh,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: look at there's Courtney at the top. I'm going to
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: click on that. Right. And so there's different things like that,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: that I'll do. I send messages. I'll follow, send follow-up messages.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I post them. There's stories on there too. And so
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: you're right at the top of somebody's headline. So there'll
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: be like, there's Courtney and Um, and then I post
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: on the like wall. So I'm kind of everywhere so
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: that I'm in their face. Right. Right.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So, but this is on like, do they have to
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: be logged in to see these posts? Like, is it
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like Instagram where sometimes you'll get an alert or they
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: have to actually be in their account to see that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you're posting these things?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think they have to be in their account. I get,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I do subscribe to other creators too, because I'm always
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: curious what other people are doing or inspiration. Um, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I get emails sometimes and they'll be like, Oh, so-and-so posted,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: but it's, it's not consistent. So I'm not really sure
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: how often they're getting notified of like posts and things
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: like that. Okay.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And is there a sweet spot for people just starting, um,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of how much they should be charging for a subscription?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I really think it's what you feel called to. I,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I am at $ 13. That to me feels like an easy,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: like no loss for people to be like 13 bucks
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: is no problem. Like if I love it, I love it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I'll continue. If I don't like it's 13 bucks, no
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: big deal.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: It's 13 bucks a month. Is that what it is?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That seems so cheap. How do you make money on that?
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I know. because you have thousands of people coming in
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: and then you have people buying DMS, their paid messages. Um,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and then I have that free page as well, where
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: it's completely free. And then people are buying DMS and paid,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: paid per view content. Right. Okay.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: So I want to talk about pay-per-view content for one second.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Cause I think that people might want more information on that,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: but when you are, um, do you think that it's
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: more like You know, I always say to people, like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: people make more money at Target than they do at
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Chanel because Chanel, the prices are so high. They're maybe
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: selling one thing where Target, they're selling hundreds of thousands
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of things all the time.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So would you suggest for people to really take your
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: advice on that and do something like $ 13, $ 10, because
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you'll get a lot more subscribers. Whereas if they try
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to do, you know, $ 30 a month or $ 50 a month,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: because they think that that's going to make them more money.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It really isn't because they'll get a lot less. Because
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about it, I would be like, wait
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a minute, I wouldn't, I would be like, you know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm on Cameo for like a hundred dollars. Like why
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: would I?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I'm on Cameo too. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: But it's like, they were trying to convince me to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: do a lot less because they're like, you'll have so
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: many people if you're on a very small amount of money,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: as opposed to, you know, who wants to spend a
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for a minute of you talking, you know?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on that?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: It's really up to the person, right? Your cameo is
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: such a great example because if you were to lower it,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: because cameo told me to lower mine too. And they
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: were like, if you're at like $ 15, like you could
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: get so many. And to me, that builds resentment, right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, I don't want to do a cameo
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of me talking for one minute in this way.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: for it?
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. they have
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch what's it called it's.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Dune adl where dune adl there's an accent on the
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: e do you mean yes i got it on done
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: deal cars lift please you're going past kimaj oh kimmage
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: no done deal cars you couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: That doesn't feel like a win to me i want
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: to charge I want to charge 50. Yeah. And so
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: if you like, I don't want to charge $ 13 because
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: this is what I want to be. Like I was
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: $ 21 for you. until 2022. And I dropped it because
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I just, I felt called like I was intentional. It
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't because I was like, uh, other people are doing this.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, I want to charge this at
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: this time. And that's just what I feel called.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And did you get signed that you got more subscribers
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: at that lower price? Okay.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I really, I really, really believe in doing what you
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: feel called. So if you're like, I want to charge 50,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I have friends who charge 30. I saw somebody today
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: who charges 50. Like it's really what you feels good
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to you. Because if you charge again, 13 and you're like,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I hate this, you'll be resentful the whole time.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. If you have to spend a month
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: doing content just to try it out and you have
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like three subscribers and you're like, this is a total nightmare.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: That would suck.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Do what you feel called to like
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: sell it at. Totally. Right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Um, what else is super important for people to, um,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: know getting started now or, um, specifically, I think how,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: and you said it like TikToks and marketing it that way,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but do you think changing up your, um, you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you're like having kind of a platform for something like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you were talking about, like the gardening, or if I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: had a misunderstood, um, only fans that who knows what
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that would even mean. I don't even know. I would
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: have to think about that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That sounds exciting.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Um, so misunder, positions that are misunderstood in sex, that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: could be really fun. I'm just kidding. But no, I,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I think that everyone wants to try it, but they're
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: really scared to, whether it's because they think they can't,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that no one will watch or they're scared to because
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: of the stigma. And like, what is the stigma been
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for you? You said that you have four kids, like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and this is your, you're, you're making money on this.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: This is your job, right? So what is that like
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: As far as the stigma goes, I, you know, I
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: don't feel like I, I don't live by that. Like my,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: my kids, my kids actually know all of them know
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I'm on only fans are two oldest ones are oldest,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: oldest one actually works for us. And she like upload,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: she doesn't upload my own only fans. She works my
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: website where I sell my only fans training course. And
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: so she's very aware. Um, all of our kids know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: but again, it's like age appropriate conversation. I'm not telling
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: my young ones what I do. My kids have always
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: known me as like a model because I started modeling
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: and I left teaching in 2017. They were really little.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: So they witnessed me going to photo shoots forever. Um,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: they know of a platform only fans because they Googled it. Um,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: and saw like only fans, they don't know what it
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: is as far as like they know. they think it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: like an Instagram or Twitter. Like it's just like a
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: social media. Um, that's, that's what they know. They know
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: mom models, but that, but I also do like fashion
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: shows too. Like I was just in Miami for Miami
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: swim week. And to me, me being myself as a
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: win for everybody in the sense that like they have
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: much better lives. Now we have, um, tickets to all
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: of the amusement parks here in California, um, Um, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: then like, we get to travel. Like when I was
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: a teacher, like we were like broke, broke, like filed bankruptcy, broke,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: like homeless, broke. And so like being able to provide
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: for my kids, like it's been a life changing for
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: them and Um, and then also like I got to
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: do Miami week. And so now my son who's very
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: into fashion got to walk with me in his first
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: fashion show last week. So like, I just believe like
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: me following my passion, my desires is like a win
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: for everybody. Right. Right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So we had, um, Nicole Mitchell on, and I think
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you have helped her, um, a lot with her path
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and she's someone who, um, She started out as, you know,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: very conservative. She was a pastor. And then she decided
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to come out as being queer. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: now she is an OnlyFans stripper, basically. She loves being
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a stripper. And so she doesn't only do content, but
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: she just loves that whole thing and loves, that's what
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: she gets, you know, confidence in with her body and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: her mind. And she is so positive and so happy
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: in her new life. persona that it was like radiating
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: through the screen I thought it was a great episode
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: because I was so proud of like her owning her
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: truth and I thought that was very cool and I
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: love that she teaches other people now she has all
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: these classes um which is where she got you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the idea from you basically so talk about your website
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and talk about how you are helping other people Yeah.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So I started doing life coaching for women back in,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I think 2017, because I was like, women deserve to
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: have the life that they want, like whatever it is
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: that they desire. We've dimmed our light so much in
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: every way, business wise, you know, Um, the, it really
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: came clear to me, like for moms, like, it's like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: as soon as you become a mom, like forget being
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: like a business owner, forget being sexy, forget like any
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of your desires. Like, it's like the world thinks that
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: that needs to go away. And I was like, I
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: want women to come back into like their power and
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: their desires and their brilliance. And so I created this core,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: like a few different courses, one, like bringing women back
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: to their power and their desires called bold femininity. And
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: then I think the one, the one that Nicole did
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: is called express yourself, where I teach women like how
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: to model, how to feel comfortable in their body. Um,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: whether it's just like, I want to take a self
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: sexy selfie or like I want to do a boudoir
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: shoot or I want to do only fans um that
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I want women to like come back to their brilliance
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: yeah so that's all on my website I.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Love all that and the difference I think with Nicole
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: she's very funny like she does these live instagrams and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it's like tonight we're going to be doing the art
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of a hand job I'm like amazing. Like what?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Right. And it's all things that we should have.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe not the art of a handjob being taught in school,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: but it's all like things that like nobody teaches you
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: about or tells you about. And you're just like kind
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: of left wondering and doing maybe your own research or
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: like getting that information. Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: And we're all left, we're all left fumbling around until
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: someone corrects us or like, you know, a lot of
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: times like stuff will be happening to us. Like I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: think a lot of girls have an issue with guys
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: going down on them and you like it or you don't,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: depending on how good of a job they're doing. And
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: sometimes you're just pretending and you're writhing around in ecstasy
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: when it's, and it sucks. And I think if people
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: had a class, Or some facilitation on, you know, sex
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: ed a little better than what they're being given now,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: which is just like birds and the bees and where
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: babies come from and how to not get AIDS. And,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you know, it would be a lot more helpful, especially
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: if you're, if you want to be sexual.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: So, and I think that builds self-esteem.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Exactly. I agree. And that's, that's something else I have
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: to always say about only fans too, is people are like, well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: it's just sexual. I do so much like relationship coaching
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: or like healing for people or connecting with people. And
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I've helped so many people with even like gambling addictions
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: or being able to be like, I have this sexual desire,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: but I don't know how to communicate it to my partner.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, there there's, yes, there's a
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: sexual component, but there's, it's still so much more then
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: people understand, like it's so much more in depth than that. Yeah. Okay.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: So, um, now that people have listened to this episode,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I think you've given a lot of tips on how
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to start your OnlyFans account. Should people subscribe to yours
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to see what you're doing to get some tips or
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: like what, what would your thoughts be on them getting
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to know the field of what's out there? Don't you
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: think that's important?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. So there's two things I'd recommend. I have an
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: only fans training course. It has two modules in it. Um,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and I think it's 30 bucks. I was running it
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: for free for all people who worked in education for
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: a while. And I can run a new promo again, um,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: because I'm just like, it, it helps. Like it helps
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to understand the ins and outs from the very beginning
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to marketing, to, um, what you want to show and express.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So I definitely think that that's on my website. Okay. Um,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: and it's literally called only fans training course. The second
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: thing is, is subscribing to creators that you look up to,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: whether it's me or somebody else where you can be like, Oh,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I really like how they did that. So they express
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: themselves in this way, or they posted that. So they
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: ran this special. I subscribe to so many creators because
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: so many people have brilliant ideas. And I'm like, that's
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: a great idea. I want to do that too.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Who are some that you're inspired by that you follow?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Um, there's this, she's actually a porn star, but her
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: name is Brandy and she's the one I was telling
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you about and she's 50 and she just is always
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: doing like, um, contribute contribution campaigns where people can tip
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: like so much to get access to whatever content and
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: people really participate in those or she'll run like different
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: specials or different games, um, and stuff like that. And
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: so I'm always like, I'll scroll through her stuff to
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: see different things that she has going on. Okay.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: So to, to get different promo ideas, sort of to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: your auntie, um, wait, and I wanted to go back
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: for one second. So you were talking about the DM
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: stuff and then you're sending out these messages and then
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: as the pay-per-view that you were talking about, that's when
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you're sending the actual video. Is that what you call pay-per-view?
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And then what about for people that just want to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: talk to you, people that want to know you, people
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that want to interact with you, are you charging them more?
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I don't, and I've had people ask me about that
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: because there is a setting on OnlyFans where you can
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: say like charge them $ 4 per message or something.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Like they do on Cameo, right?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Yes. I do have it turned on on Cameo. I
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: do not have it turned on on OnlyFans. And because
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I want people to build that connection with me. If
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: people have that connection and relationship with you, they're going
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: to continue to subscribe. If they feel like they can't
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: access you, when they maybe are already paying a subscription price,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: they're probably less likely to continue to subscribe and participate.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: And on that platform, we want people subscribing. We want
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: them participating and we want them connected to you on
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: whatever level you feel good with. Um, so that they keep,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: they keep buying.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Um, any other suggestions for, um, in terms of, you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: were talking about your daily, um, number that you have
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: in your head, what would be a good daily number
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: for someone to have in their head when they first
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: start so that if they know if they're doing well
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: or not?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Um, I recently heard a statistic that, um, the average
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: person are makes $ 150 a month on OnlyFans. which was
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: shocking to me. Um, but you also have to remember
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you have people who create accounts who never actually do
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: anything with it. And so you have people who you
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: have really highs and really lows. So to me, like
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: what would feel like a fun number to you that
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: maybe feels like a stretch or but also something you
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: could get your energy behind. Because sometimes I've done that
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: with numbers before where I'm like, Ooh, I really want
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: to make this, but it felt like too big of
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: a leap to where I was that I was like,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I can't get my energy behind that. It feels impossible.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: So like, does, does getting one subscriber a day feel
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: exciting to you? Feel like easy, but also maybe a
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: little bit of a stretch. That's what I always ask
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: my people. Like what feels exciting? What feels like you
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: can get your energy behind, but a little bit of
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: a stretch. That's what I would recommend.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: And, but so is it different for everyone? Like there's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: no kind of number that we should be following. Like
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't know, like if you're getting 10 subscribers a day,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you're on the right path. Or if you're getting two
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: or if you're getting a hundred, there's no way to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: know and gauge how well you're doing.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I'm, I, I would not know that to be honest,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: because it's so, it's so random for everybody. And you
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: may have like a huge influx. Like when there's media
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that comes out about me, I may have an influx
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: of like 4,000 subscribers, but like the following days, maybe
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I get 10 to 20. So you, it can be
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a roller coaster. I see. So yeah. So,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: and just, I always do things energetically or like, how
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: does it feel? And that's kind of what I based
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: everything off of versus like, yeah, a specific, if you're
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: not hitting 10, then you're fucking up. Like it's not
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: like that. Right. Right. Okay.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Um, where do you see the future of only fans
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: or this kind of thing going? I mean, do you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: see it changing at all?
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I don't, I feel like it's such, I was talking
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: to a girl yesterday and a lot of people have
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: had not great numbers this summer. A lot of the
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: big creators numbers have kind of gone down a little bit.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: And people who've been on this platform and creating, they're businesswomen,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: they're marketers. They're like, I always said too, I learned
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: more by running an OnlyFans than I did by going
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: to college and getting all my degrees. Like I learned
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: more about it. So like whether OnlyFans continues to exist
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: or it doesn't, you're still going to have these people creating,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: running businesses, marketing, doing things. With that being said, I
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: feel like OnlyFans is going to be around for a
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: long time because it's given the power back to the
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: creator in so many ways. We own our own content.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: We get to choose what we put out there. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: so I think it's a really powerful place.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna say right now that I'm gonna
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: try this. Now that I've spoken to you, and I've
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: spoken to people like, you know, Shana Mochler and, you know,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: like Nicole and a bunch of these people that have
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: their accounts and you're the first one that's made me
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: feel like, okay, now I know the actual steps I'm
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: going to try it for, I mean, I guess I
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: should say three months, but I'll definitely try it for
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a month where I'm like posting every day. I have
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: to figure out what my platform's going to be about,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: but then I'm going to contact you and I'm going
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to tell you how it's going. And I'll give you
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: a free subscription so you could go on and tell
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: me what I'm doing wrong or right.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm happy to help you. And honestly, the
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: big thing is like, have fun with it. Like your
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: idea of like the sex positions, like I saw a
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: girl doing something like, what sex position would you want
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: to see me in? And she's fully clothed.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Like... But she had made so much money. I could
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: be the tips on the thing. And maybe she was
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: sending out the position nude after. I don't actually know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: But she had made a lot of money. And so, like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I actually think the misunderstood sex positions is brilliant. Yes.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: And I feel like you could have so much fun with, like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: different things that maybe, like, like you said, the misunderstood
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: handjob or the misunderstood... Whatever it may be. Right. We
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: all have misunderstandings about sex things because we never actually
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: got the education that I'm like, this is actually brilliant.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. And I am going to add the dick ratings
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: in mine because I just think it's so fun. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I get random dick pics all the time and I'm like, ew,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: what is this? But I would like to empower these
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: men like you do to give them some help. And
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: so I'm open to all dick photos coming in to
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: me once you pay the subscription.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Make them pay. Make them pay. No, you see some
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: unique dicks. And I'm always like, I want to be
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: kind and loving.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: And I also want to be honest that I'm like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: you have a unique dick. I haven't seen a dick
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: like this before. But you know what? This week I
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: got a dick pic rating and I had the biggest
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: piercing I've ever seen in my life.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Through the head oh I was shocked that I like
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: actually stood there for a little bit and was like
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I'm this is mind-blowing.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: What was the rating on that one that you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Gave it I, I, I was like, I'm impressed because
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: the fact, and it was like gauge, like I'm telling like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: it was like gauge to the tip.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: But do you do one through 10 ratings? Like, did
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you give it a 10?
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I typically, I did. I typically don't. I think I
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: actually did give him like a 12 out of 10
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: because that huge of a gauge deck, like, because us
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: to feel good for him and must feel good for
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: the other person. So it was like, Way to take
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: one for the team. Yes.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: God, I can't imagine what was going on when he
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: had that done.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Well, good for him.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Tell people where they can find you,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: where they can sign up for your classes and also
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: where they can sign up for your OnlyFans. Go ahead.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: It's CourtneyTelia on every platform. So CourtneyTelia.com is my, where
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: you can find all of my courses.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And it's T-I-L-L-I-A.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Correct. Okay, cool.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And if anyone wants to reach out to you on
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Instagram or ask any questions, should they DM you or
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: should they go to your website? Is there a place
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: where they can email you?
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Um, Instagram is probably better. It's the Courtney Talia on Instagram.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us. I can't
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: wait to see if people sign up after this and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: have the guts to do it. I think that people
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: hopefully will understand that it's more of an empowering thing
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: to have some financial freedom, but also have some freedom
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to just be who you are and that there doesn't
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: have to be a stigma that goes with it. So, um,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: so congratulations on everything that you are doing. And I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: really hope that people follow in your footsteps. Thank you
• 57:12
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• 57:16
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• 57:33
  Speaker 1: That's spelled M-I-S-S understood. Thank you so much, and I'll
• 57:38
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• 57:43
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: for it?
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, Kimmage.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: No.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.