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The Kenny Report | 25 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skoing New Center. This is the Kenny.
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  Speaker 2: Report, Thanks for joining me tonight previewing the federal budget.
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  Speaker 2: Labour's broken promises, their economic fantasies meet reality. When will
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  Speaker 2: we face up to our budget woes? The Queensland Premier
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  Speaker 2: reveals his Brisbane Olympics stadium plans, a new inner city stadium,
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  Speaker 2: the centerpiece of a grand plan. The tel mp who
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  Speaker 2: sprooks integrity and openness but refuses to talk about her
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  Speaker 2: own husband's campaigns. Skullduggery. Another green hydrogen plant bites the dust.
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  Speaker 2: I'll speak with National Senate Leader Bridget mackenzie also tonight,
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Senna Tempo and Lisa Goddard.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: There was a time when budgets were about reality. On
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  Speaker 2: Budget Night we were given a series of figures and
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  Speaker 2: statistics that reflect the exact financial status of the government
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  Speaker 2: as well as the shape of the economy, as the
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  Speaker 2: government detailed its plans to ensure we improve into the future.
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  Speaker 2: These days, there's more spin around budgets than reality, more
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  Speaker 2: fantasy than facts. That will be on clear display tonight,
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  Speaker 2: the Anthony Albanese Labor government will deliver a budget that
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  Speaker 2: is in dire strife. It's in structural deficit, and they
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  Speaker 2: will have no plan to get back into surplus, no
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  Speaker 2: plan to deliver productivity growth, and therefore no plan to
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  Speaker 2: make us more prosperous. Yet they will promote it as
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  Speaker 2: a crowning achievement. They will say it's great for you
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  Speaker 2: and rosy days are just around the corner if we
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  Speaker 2: only re elect them. Remember they did all of this
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  Speaker 2: at the last election. They said the cost of living
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  Speaker 2: would fall wrong, they said interest rates would fall wrong again,
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  Speaker 2: and they promised electricity prices would be cut by two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars a year. And they fail.
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  Speaker 2: They broke that promise. Prices have gone up. They've gone
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  Speaker 2: in the opposite direction by three or four times the
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  Speaker 2: promise cut. But the Prime Minister reckons he's got a
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  Speaker 2: good story to tell. Missus Spaga.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight, we will hand down a budget that confirms confirms
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  Speaker 3: inflation is going down.
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  Speaker 2: Ye yeah, here, hey, the way this mobar spending, it
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  Speaker 2: won't be long before inflation heads up again.
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  Speaker 1: The size of.
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  Speaker 2: Government continues to grow like topsy. Labor has added more
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  Speaker 2: than thirty six thousand extra public servants, most of them
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  Speaker 2: in Canberra. It's given them a series of pay rises
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  Speaker 2: the rest of us would dearly love, and Labour's told
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  Speaker 2: them they can all work from home. This is what
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  Speaker 2: labor makes us pay for public servants we don't need
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  Speaker 2: doing four fifths of bugger all getting pay in conditions
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  Speaker 2: that far exceed the private sector. And then told them
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  Speaker 2: I can stay home anyway. And Labour has no economic
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  Speaker 2: reform plan. They're doing nothing to encourage growth. Instead they
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  Speaker 2: do the opposite. They give us more power to the unions.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, they power up the unions and overregulate the
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  Speaker 2: labor market to stifle investment and growth, and the vandalized
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  Speaker 2: our energy system, increasing prices and making energy supplies far
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  Speaker 2: more perilous because they want to pretend that they can
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  Speaker 2: somehow change the global climate. This is impossible, scientifically idiotic.
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  Speaker 2: Our inconsequential emissions cuts do nothing as global emissions continue
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  Speaker 2: to rise. But Labor loves the vibe of the climate
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  Speaker 2: action thing, even as it hurts families and undermines every
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  Speaker 2: aspect of our economy. No wonder the country's in strife.
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  Speaker 4: So an election woulding budget Well, we'reabout is doing the
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  Speaker 4: right thing by Australian where put them first. That's been
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  Speaker 4: our priority.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, really doing the right things by themselves. More
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  Speaker 2: likely that'll be the theme tonight, doing the right thing
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  Speaker 2: by labor trying to buy votes, picking out special interest groups,
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  Speaker 2: throwing money at them and hoping that'll be enough to
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  Speaker 2: win their votes in about six weeks time before things
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  Speaker 2: go sour. The trouble with all this is that truth
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  Speaker 2: goes awol. Listen to the Prime Minister on radio this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I nearly choked on my wheaties.
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  Speaker 4: We have cut our debt by two hundred billion dollars
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  Speaker 4: as a result of our responsible economic management.
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  Speaker 1: Say what, he's cut debt.
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  Speaker 2: All that spending and he's cut debt.
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  Speaker 1: Let's check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Here's where government debt was in June twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: just a month after Labour came to power. Back then,
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  Speaker 2: as anation, we owed eight hundred and ninety two thousand,
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and forty seven million dollars, or near enough
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  Speaker 2: to eight hundred and ninety three billion dollars, and as
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  Speaker 2: of today we owe nine hundred and fifty six thousand,
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  Speaker 2: four hundred million dollars, or more than nine hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty six billion dollars that's an increase of more than
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  Speaker 2: sixty billion dollars in our debt, not a cut, and
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  Speaker 2: the forecast tonight will show that debt will soon top
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  Speaker 2: one thousand million dollars or a trillion dollars, because budget
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  Speaker 2: deficits will continue deep into the future. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: we will be spending more than we earn for the
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  Speaker 2: foreseeable future. You and I could never run a small
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  Speaker 2: business like this, We could never run our households like this.
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  Speaker 1: We always have.
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  Speaker 2: To live within our means, or we have to have
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  Speaker 2: a plan to pay off our debt. But labor continues
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  Speaker 2: to put it all on the credit card, on your
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  Speaker 2: credit card, and then it boasts about it, and it
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  Speaker 2: expects you to be grateful for the way they're throwing
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  Speaker 2: around your taxes, your future taxes and your kid's future taxes.
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  Speaker 2: What are reckless, irresponsible, and in the end, damaging way
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  Speaker 2: to run a country.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the.
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  Speaker 2: Big event this week isn't really the budget tonight. We
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  Speaker 2: know it'll bake in this unrealistic approach. We know it'll
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  Speaker 2: be all politics and zero economics. The major event this
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  Speaker 2: week will be Peter Dutton's budget in reply speech on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, How bold can he be in mapping out
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  Speaker 2: a different approach. How much reality will he be prepared
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  Speaker 2: to confront? Will he issue a wake up call to
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  Speaker 2: the nation and deliver the unpalatable truth that we have
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  Speaker 2: to live within our means, reduce the size of government
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  Speaker 2: and work hard to expand our economy rather than bling
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  Speaker 2: it through this bizarre pretense that we can change the
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  Speaker 2: global climate. We will see on Thursday night. But Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 2: your country needs you. You know that the tlmps like
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  Speaker 2: a Legrispender and Zoey Daniels and Zali Stegel and Monique Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: You know they claim to be into lifting the standards
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  Speaker 2: of our politics, and you know that you know that
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  Speaker 2: they reckon they're into integrity and all of that, because
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  Speaker 2: that's what they keep telling you.
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  Speaker 5: I think we can do better on integrity and politics.
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  Speaker 5: We need to constantly invest in our democracy.
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  Speaker 6: Democracy is under threat globally and what we acknowledge is
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  Speaker 6: a post truth world. Speaker, we can combat cynicism and
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  Speaker 6: disbelief only by committing to openness.
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  Speaker 5: People want to see politics done differently.
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  Speaker 7: They particularly want integrity and accountability in politics.
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  Speaker 8: As your member for Keoon, I will act with integrity
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  Speaker 8: and honesty, and I will provide leadership and vision and
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  Speaker 8: I stand for integrity, decency, and honesty.
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  Speaker 9: I really think the public wants to see accountability and
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  Speaker 9: integrity happening in the public because that is how we
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  Speaker 9: raise trust in politics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Tills and their movement haven't really lived
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  Speaker 2: up to that so well have they. For starters, they
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  Speaker 2: spend more on their campaigns than any other candidates, taking
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  Speaker 2: massive donations from Simon Holmes of Courts Climate two hundred outfit,
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  Speaker 2: which is bank rolled in large part by some of
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  Speaker 2: the richest climate hypocrites in the country, people who talk
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  Speaker 2: climate action but have massive carbon footprints. And then, as
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  Speaker 2: we saw yesterday, the Tills are not above grubby political
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  Speaker 2: tactics in their electorates. Oh you, I'm not saying who
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  Speaker 2: I am, who are you? Or you wear a teal
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  Speaker 2: T shirt. I'll start to film you are your monic
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  Speaker 2: Ryan support of ripping down people's signs is that what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing it belongs to me. Hey, you can take
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  Speaker 2: it off the property, but it belongs to me.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was the husband of the TLMP for Qyong, Monique Ryan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: her husband Peter Jordan I don't know what his day
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  Speaker 2: job is. He pulled up a poster that didn't belong
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  Speaker 2: to him, a post of promoting the Liberal candidate, and
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  Speaker 2: he took off with it. We can only imagine what
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  Speaker 2: Ryan said to him, because we know she likes to
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  Speaker 2: boss people.
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  Speaker 6: Around and chronic illness put your masks on from repeated infection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know she claims to be into openness
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  Speaker 2: in politics.
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  Speaker 6: Democracy is under threat globally and what we acknowledge is
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  Speaker 6: a post truth world speaker. We can combat cynicism and
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  Speaker 6: disbelief only by committing to openness.
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  Speaker 2: But in Canberra today Ryan was not very open, not
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  Speaker 2: very transparent.
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  Speaker 11: Can I ask you what do you think of your
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  Speaker 11: husband's decision to remove the Liberal candidates signing Cuyong?
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  Speaker 8: If I don't have a comment for you of comment
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  Speaker 8: on that matter already, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that was an appropriate thing to do?
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  Speaker 8: Could you please get your cameras away from me?
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  Speaker 11: Do you think it was an appropriate thing to do
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  Speaker 11: for him to remove that sign?
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  Speaker 12: Could you please keep the cameras away from me? Suddenly
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  Speaker 12: Ryan was camera shy. Suddenly she was not so open.
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  Speaker 12: Her claims to have already commented seemed odd. We're not
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  Speaker 12: aware of any news conference or interview. Surely she wasn't
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  Speaker 12: referring to that statement of apology from her and a
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  Speaker 12: husband that was put out yesterday. That's hardly commenting, So
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  Speaker 12: dodging questions would hardly look like openness and transparency. But
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  Speaker 12: full marks to Channel seven's Isabelle Mullins, she wasn't going
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  Speaker 12: to let up.
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  Speaker 11: Is there anything that you would like to say to
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  Speaker 11: that liberal candidate.
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  Speaker 5: Of comment on the matter, thinking and on what is your.
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  Speaker 11: Message anything at all? Heading into the election? How do
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  Speaker 11: you think constituents will view that act?
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  Speaker 2: That's Monique Ryan, member for Quyong, bringing transparency to politics.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine if these people had responsibility for anything. Imagine if
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  Speaker 2: they had to answer questions about programs or policies or
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  Speaker 2: departments they administered. So much to say about other politicians,
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  Speaker 2: so much to say about integrity in politics, nothing to
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  Speaker 2: say about the behavior of our own campaigners, her own husband.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said the Tills movement is a fraudulent one,
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  Speaker 2: and every day only confirms that. I'll have more later
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  Speaker 2: on the Brisbane Olympic Games venues announcement a huge deal
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  Speaker 2: in Queensland today and it'll be a huge deal for
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  Speaker 2: the whole country. Eventually, Queensland hosting the Games is going
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  Speaker 2: to be sensational.
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  Speaker 1: Surely we all know that.
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  Speaker 2: Remember how friendly and lively the Games were in Sydney
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand. Well, you'd reckon the Queenslanders. We'll be
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  Speaker 2: able to top that. But facilities are critical, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: so glad that Premier chriso fully has bitten the bullet,
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  Speaker 2: changed his mind and gone for the new stadium option.
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  Speaker 13: There'll also be an exciting new sports and entertainment precinct
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  Speaker 13: in the heart of Brisbane, where Victoria Park will become
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  Speaker 13: home to Brisbane Stadium, designed to attract world class events.
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  Speaker 13: The Centenary Pool will be transformed to become our national
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  Speaker 13: Aquatic Center with more than twenty five thousand seats and
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  Speaker 13: multiple pools, ready to host international competitions and train the
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  Speaker 13: next generation of champions.
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  Speaker 2: Look this is clearly the right decision. The experience in
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  Speaker 2: other cities tells story. In Melbourne they split up footy
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  Speaker 2: and cricket for decades with a footy stadium way out
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  Speaker 2: at Waverley.
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  Speaker 1: There it never worked.
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  Speaker 2: One quality stadium, the redeveloped MCG shared by both sports,
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  Speaker 2: near the heart of the city.
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  Speaker 1: That's been brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: In Adelaide, the same story, decades of controversy before they
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  Speaker 2: all settled on Adelaide Oval being redeveloped in the city
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  Speaker 2: center and footy and cricket and other events have never
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  Speaker 2: looked back. And in Perth two one brilliant stadium footy
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  Speaker 2: and cricket special events too. It's been transformative. So in
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  Speaker 2: Brisbane it's going to be the same. This plan for
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  Speaker 2: Victoria Park will ensure that Brisbane has a world class
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  Speaker 2: stadium for the games, close to the city center and
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  Speaker 2: transport links, and then a perfect facility for Rossie RULs,
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  Speaker 2: footy and cricket and other events to share way into
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  Speaker 2: the future. Great stuff. There'll be wines, and there'll be controversy,
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  Speaker 2: there always is, but believe me, Brisbane will love this
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  Speaker 2: stadium long term. I'll get expert analysis on the Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: plan from Ozzie Sporting great John bertrand later let's get
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  Speaker 2: back down to the Canberra now and catch up with
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  Speaker 2: the National Senate leader Bridget mackenzie as we all await
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  Speaker 2: the budget later tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Bridget.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to kick off on energy that's sort of
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  Speaker 2: to me, and there won't be a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talk about it tonight except for the labor
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  Speaker 2: throwing more money at our power bills. But the energy
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  Speaker 2: mess in this country just got deeper again yesterday with
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  Speaker 2: the announcement of yet another green hydrogen plan, a seven
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollar plan in Port Pieri in
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  Speaker 2: South Australia. Falling over another one bites the day. So
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  Speaker 2: when a labor going to admit that this thing just
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  Speaker 2: won't happen, absolutely, Chris.
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  Speaker 14: It's like Chris Bowen is you know that a black
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  Speaker 14: night in Monty Python, another limb is slashed off his
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  Speaker 14: corpse and he just refuses to face reality. The Australian reported,
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  Speaker 14: I think today or recently, that ninety nine percent of
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  Speaker 14: hydrogen projects haven't proceeded past concept stage. This isn't going
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  Speaker 14: to fly. We have a comparative advantage on the energy
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  Speaker 14: front in so many areas in this country in abundance
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  Speaker 14: of gas, an abundance of coal, and a backyard, particularly
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  Speaker 14: for those of you in South Australia, full of uranium
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  Speaker 14: to really power our future in a lower missions century.
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  Speaker 14: And so for labor to still be pursuing this pipe
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  Speaker 14: dream of green hydrogen. When all of these projects are
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  Speaker 14: falling over, when the rubber hits the road and they
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  Speaker 14: have to face reality, just shows what dreamers and grifters
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  Speaker 14: are part of Labour's energy policy thus far.
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  Speaker 2: They are absolutely dreamers. I'll show you a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of what they've been saying about green hydrogen lately.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is they've also backed it up.
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  Speaker 2: With tens of billions of dollars of government subsidies and
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  Speaker 2: the like time, try trying our hard tax dollars.
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  Speaker 1: After these dreams have I listened to them.
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  Speaker 4: We have an exciting future going forward in terms of
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  Speaker 4: green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 15: Under the Urban Easy Labor government. These jobs will be
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  Speaker 15: secure because we'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution.
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  Speaker 15: And what we know is that the green hydrogen sector
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  Speaker 15: has an enormous potential in this country. We have two
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  Speaker 15: hundred and twenty five billion dollar pipeline for green hydrogen
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  Speaker 15: in Australia that's across one hundred projects. Now, my government
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  Speaker 15: sees enormous potentially in green hydrogen and will look for
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  Speaker 15: opportunities to back green hydrogen projects. Only Labor has the
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  Speaker 15: plan to ensure that Australia is part of and is
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  Speaker 15: leading that hydrogen revolution.
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  Speaker 2: Hydrogen revolution? What sort of a cloud is this bloke?
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  Speaker 1: A player?
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  Speaker 2: Even with all that government money on offer, that fallen
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  Speaker 2: over major projects in Gladstone, in the Hunter Valley, down
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  Speaker 2: in the Illawara, two of them in South Australia and
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  Speaker 2: Western Australia. They're falling over everywhere. And these guys are
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  Speaker 2: still talking about a green hydrogen revolution. Will you just
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  Speaker 2: put a line through this in your election campaign, Olio.
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  Speaker 14: They're just so divorced from reality. The science isn't stacking up,
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  Speaker 14: and they're shoveling, as you said, billions of dollars of
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  Speaker 14: taxpayers money to these projects. Even Twiggy Forest is walking
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  Speaker 14: away from this stuff. So the point and the problem
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  Speaker 14: is that our energy prices are going up, Chris. We've
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  Speaker 14: got an abundance of natural resource sitting here in the
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  Speaker 14: ground across three different types of energy sources waiting to
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  Speaker 14: be unlocked, for that potential to be unlocked to actually
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  Speaker 14: drive down energy prices in a sensible plan that's based
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  Speaker 14: in reality. Instead obviously the labor chasing that green dream
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  Speaker 14: and unfortunately coming a cropper as a result.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look it underpins everything about this budget and
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  Speaker 2: everything about this economy is what we're doing to ourselves
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  Speaker 2: on energy. You as a coalition, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: stand in the way of this latest round of rebates
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty dollars over the next six months
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  Speaker 2: to try and keep domestic power prices down. But this
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  Speaker 2: is such a band aid, right, This is more taxpayers dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It runs out in six months. What will happen in
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  Speaker 2: six months time?
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  Speaker 14: Well, Chris, the reality is this. I think it's close
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  Speaker 14: to six point eight billion dollars of taxpayers money to
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  Speaker 14: subsidize energy bills. When remember the Prime Minister the last
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  Speaker 14: time the election rolled around and ninety seven times post
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  Speaker 14: that he promised that your energy bill would go down.
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  Speaker 14: Instead it's gone up on average thirteen hundred dollars. It's
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  Speaker 14: also driving business's bus across our economy. So let's not
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  Speaker 14: kit ourselves here. Labor is not solving the primary problem,
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  Speaker 14: which is the increase in energy price. Instead, they're essentially
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  Speaker 14: putting a band aid on a bullet wound. As you know,
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  Speaker 14: consumers right across the country, business's households are bleeding out
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  Speaker 14: as a result of their energy policy, and until they
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  Speaker 14: address the problem at its source with an energy policy
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  Speaker 14: that is sensible rather than these pipe dreams you and
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  Speaker 14: I spoke about earlier. It's not going to get any better.
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  Speaker 14: We need to have a sensible conversation in this country
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  Speaker 14: about getting more gas supplied into the energy system, and
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  Speaker 14: we need to have a future focused conversation about net
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  Speaker 14: zero nuclear, which we know will power us into next
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  Speaker 14: century with a reliable, affordable source.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got to get cracking.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to get cracking because we're the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, thanks so much for joining us, Bridget
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  Speaker 2: Bridget mackenzie, the National Senate Leader. Now I'll have to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: wait and see what's in the budget. We'll find out
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  Speaker 2: at seven o'clock tonight. Of course watch it here alive
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  Speaker 2: on Sky News. But of course, in the meantime, hundreds
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of journalists and economists and industry representatives and interest groups,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: they're all temporarily at the moment behind bars in budget lockups,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: getting across all the details before the Treasurer delivers the
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  Speaker 2: speech later tonight, so they come out and tell us
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  Speaker 2: all about it afterwards. And among them is our own
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  Speaker 2: Tim Blair. He's in the lock up for the Daily Telegraph.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But I caught up with him before he went into
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the lock up, and I noted that, given what Labor
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: has been saying about the budget, it was a bit
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: like he was leaving the real world behind for a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: while to spend a few hours in make believe land.
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's going to be like the opposite of a
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: detox tech. You're going to get toxed up in the
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: lockup and come out and then hopefully regrets. And this
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: one's very different, as you'd be aware, Chris, this budget
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: because ordinarily we know a great deal more than even
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: we know about this budget. We know a great deal
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: more in advance, and we can do a fair amount
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: of pre planning about what we're going to write about.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: But a lot of people just we just a lot
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: of people didn't expect there'd be a budget this year.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: We thought there'd be an early election that would push
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: the budget back. So maybe a few of us have
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: been caught on the hop we'll see how things turn out.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the sense of unreality that confounds me.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the top of the show, Anthony
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Albernezi was out there this morning saying he's got dead
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: down now. Now that's spiraling towards a billion dollars. He's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: living in an alternate universe.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: Oh completely. I mean, I just keep going back to
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: the the famous two hundred and seventy five dollars saving promise,
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: which Labor now, even though they've missed that target by
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: thousands of dollars, Labour now saying I don't know we're
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: saving you money because we're giving you all these rebates.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: That's not saving No, that's using tax to cover for
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: the savings not being made. It's incredibly dishonest the way
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: they're presenting it, and I look forward to that being
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: a theme perhaps throughout the entire budget, of just faking
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: it up. I mean, they've got to when spending, when
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: the sort of promises they're made are above sixty billion dollars,
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: how many of those can possibly be justified? How many
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: of those will ever be met? Possibly? None.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: This is the trouble, of course, what they say, the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: numbers they put up, the arguments they don't bear up
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to any accurate scrutiny, and which of course there will
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: be plenty of wise heads who will point that out
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in the budget today. But I read they're actually getting
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a bunch of social media influencers into the lock up
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: in Canberra. This is what they want. They want people
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: who just spout their lines and get it onto Instagram
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and not scrutinize the logic and the numbers behind their retoric.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Yes, that's what we need more of in hard no
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: budget analysis is social media influences. So after they tell
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: us about deficits and surpluses, they can advise us on
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: whether flares are back or the other things, whether sugar
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: should be taxed. It's yeah, it's an unusual decision, let's say,
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: but you know it's worked before, sort of with the
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: Prime minister who remember remember Albanezi the DJ and that
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: was a big theme a few years ago. He hasn't
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: really gone back to that lately. But it's in the
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: same sort of orbit as your social influencers.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I hope someone gets some selfies inside the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: lock up with the influencers. Should be a lot of fun.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to have a look at some of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the more traditional media preparations for a budget and have
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a look at this pick fact this morning between the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, the Treasurer and the Finance minister.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: It's been a great task trying to land US seven
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: four seven on a helicopter pat here trying to get
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: that in inflation level down whilst making sure we maintain employment,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: increase wages, and defend people's living centers by providing cost
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: of living relief.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 16: I mean this has been a big task, building on
• 24:15
  Speaker 16: previous budgets, as you say, PM, lots of investment in
• 24:18
  Speaker 16: women and driving economic equality for women, cost of living relief,
• 24:22
  Speaker 16: finding savings as well where we can.
• 24:25
  Speaker 17: Yes, such a natural spiel there, it's him, And the
• 24:29
  Speaker 17: thing that stands out for me is this metaphor from
• 24:32
  Speaker 17: Anthony alberneasy landing a jumbo jet on a helicopter pad. Oh,
• 24:38
  Speaker 17: that's exactly what he's done, because the only way he
• 24:40
  Speaker 17: can do that is crash the economy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: Yes, Forraguy, who spends a lot of time on aircraft,
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: is possibly not aware that helicopters do this sort of thing.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: They go up and down, and.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: Your jets do that thing. They go, they go across
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: and if you want to, you want to put one
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: on a Hell, he paid you are as you say,
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: you're crashing it. But I just love the sort of
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: the unashamed Soviet level dishonesty here the presentation of all
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: that's bad as being good. You know, tractive production has
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: gone up four percent. You know, our beag root factory
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: has met all of its target. This is just bogus,
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: and it sounds even more bogus when they scripted. It
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: just adds that sort of you know, that bogus level
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: of gravitas of the raim before and to a lot
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: of people who just undermines it, it makes it sound
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: even more ridiculous.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Look, while you're fully ensconced in budget matters today, I've
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: got to get your thoughts on some events in the US.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And this extraordinary security bridge, the one that anybody involved
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: in the media would want to happen to them, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that is this encrypted social media group that's got the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you know, the Secretary of State, the Vice President, all
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: these defenses officials on it. And they've included a journo
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: on their planning for attacks against the whod he's in Yemen.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Yes, so not even a friendly journo, someone who's been
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: very critical of the Trump administration. They've included an enemy
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: if you like. But the other thing, though, is the
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: content is actually really good. What we've now seen leaked
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: is reveals that for example, Vice President j Evance and
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: Peter Hegseth and all the people who are involved in it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: What they're saying in their private official meetings is exactly
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: what they're saying exactly the same tone. That's what they're saying,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: you know, in public. So in a way, and you
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: don't want to be sort of too conspiratorial about it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: In a way, it almost looks as though this might
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: have been a deliberate thing to sort of give a
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: good sort of pr glow.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: To It's kind of reassuring to see that, but it
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't hurt them.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's reassuring to see that consistency rather than some
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: sort of gung ho behind the scenes attitude. Here's the President.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He didn't know much about it, He reckons.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: fan of The Atlantic.
• 26:55
  Speaker 16: It's to me it's a magazine that's going out of business.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I think it's not much of a magazine.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But I know nothing about it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, except that taking the athletic fair enough. We will
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: see where all that ends up. Tim. Good luck getting
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: through it all this evening and this afternoon, and we'll
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: catch up with you later in the week.
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: Good any mate, Thank you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get back into the budget after this break.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I'll get some pre budget economic analysis from pre Deep
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Philip from Deloitte. Let's get some more insights now into
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: what we should be looking for in tonight's federal budget.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm joined by Pep Philip, who's a lead partner at
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Deloitte Access Economics. He joins us live from Parliament House, Canberra.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Good to speak to you again, Pre Deep. Is spending
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the issue here? We've seen so much additional spending announced
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: by Labor already this year and with the election just
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: weeks away, do we expect to see more? And what
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: do you think of that? Oh?
• 27:57
  Speaker 18: Look, this is definitely a very complish environment in which
• 28:01
  Speaker 18: to deliver a budget. We see these geopolitical shifts taking place.
• 28:05
  Speaker 18: We've got a gloomier global outlook because volatility, uncertaintys going
• 28:10
  Speaker 18: through the roof, and so this is a tough time
• 28:12
  Speaker 18: to deliver a budget. And so far, yes, there have
• 28:14
  Speaker 18: been some spending announcements, but probably not as great as
• 28:19
  Speaker 18: what we might have expected, and so it's really important
• 28:23
  Speaker 18: as we go into this budget. We've got kind of
• 28:25
  Speaker 18: four things we're going to look for. One is is
• 28:28
  Speaker 18: this going to be inflationary, Probably not so much in
• 28:31
  Speaker 18: this budget, but over the next six weeks when there's
• 28:33
  Speaker 18: an election campaign. We want to make sure that there's
• 28:35
  Speaker 18: not a big cash splash that's going to get the
• 28:37
  Speaker 18: attention to reserve back. The second is how does this
• 28:40
  Speaker 18: budget balance a short run versus the long run?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You know there'll be.
• 28:43
  Speaker 18: Cost of living things today, but are we setting ourselves
• 28:46
  Speaker 18: up for the future. And related to that as a
• 28:48
  Speaker 18: third point is will the budget create the environment that
• 28:51
  Speaker 18: incentivizes businesses to go out and invest and for new
• 28:55
  Speaker 18: businesses to get started? And the fourth is will the
• 28:58
  Speaker 18: budget improve our social compount or take away from it?
• 29:01
  Speaker 18: So it's not just about spending, it's about the quality
• 29:05
  Speaker 18: of the spending, but it's also importantly how do we
• 29:07
  Speaker 18: pay for all of these things, not just with savings
• 29:10
  Speaker 18: but also with a modern, equitable and efficient tax system.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Well, we've seen so much waste in spending already, so
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: much low quality spending from all governments over such a
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: long period, that I don't think we can have a
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: lot of confidence in the quality of the spend. What
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: intrigues me prettyep is that you alluded to the election campaign.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: The election will be called possibly this weekend or the
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: weekend after, so we'll be straight into it. Labor won't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: want to announce everything that's going to release in the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: election campaign. How will they cover for that in the budget?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Will there just be a pool of money that is
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: identified there for.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yet to be announced initiatives.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 18: Look, and this is something that you know, both sides
• 29:55
  Speaker 18: do on a regular basis in which we want to
• 29:57
  Speaker 18: climb put an end to There are these There's a
• 30:00
  Speaker 18: category called decisions taken but not announced and in the
• 30:03
  Speaker 18: past but used to be used very very carefully for
• 30:08
  Speaker 18: perhaps things are about national security or really confidential things.
• 30:12
  Speaker 18: Now it's become by both parties the place where you
• 30:16
  Speaker 18: put money aside. It's in the budget, not announced, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 18: then during a campaign you can announce it and it
• 30:21
  Speaker 18: has no impact on the bottom line. And the second
• 30:23
  Speaker 18: area is something called contingency reserve, where sometimes people are
• 30:28
  Speaker 18: stashed some cash away to be able to release later
• 30:32
  Speaker 18: on what we actually do need to do. And I
• 30:35
  Speaker 18: know it's not a really sexy topic at all, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 18: we have to get better integrity into the budget system
• 30:41
  Speaker 18: itself going forward. We've got these decisions that are taken
• 30:45
  Speaker 18: but not announced, there's contingency reserve, and then there are
• 30:49
  Speaker 18: these off budget measures and they're not bad in themselves,
• 30:53
  Speaker 18: but the way they used is a great for transparency
• 30:57
  Speaker 18: of the budget.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as I said at the outset of this program,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it's all more about politics than economics of these moves
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and we've got to get back to the economic fundamentals.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Let's just have a quick look at what Anthony Alberdez
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: he had to say in Parliament today.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Budget that helps every Australian with cost of living, which
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: remains our top priority. Because of the hard work that
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: we have done the Australian people, our economy is turning
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the corner. Inflation is down, wages are up, unemployment is low,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: interest rates have started to fall.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it also sound so grand.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: At the moment, as you mentioned, Pritty, we are facing
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: pretty turbulent times as a trade exposed nation. Especially the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: tariff wars erupting out of Washington are going to be
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: pretty critical for us. But I'm interested in this cost
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of living aspect because the idea of reducing our cost
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of living is reducing the inputs that is inflation and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: especially in this country, electricity prices and the idea of
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: spending additional money to compensate for the prices they have
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: me out of cut empowered. It does my head in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: we have to have a fundamental attack in this country.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Don't we to get electricity prices down. Apart from crushing families,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: they not only hurt small business terribly, but they're sending
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: larger manufacturers and the like, they're sending their investments overseas.
• 32:23
  Speaker 18: Look, Chris, energy prices are really critical for economic growth,
• 32:28
  Speaker 18: and the reality is we've actually been in a transition period.
• 32:31
  Speaker 18: We're trying to get more renewables into the system because
• 32:34
  Speaker 18: we're trying to create a production system that is of
• 32:37
  Speaker 18: lower emissions intensity. But that isn't easy to do, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 18: they're going to be ups and downs. There's going to
• 32:42
  Speaker 18: be a lot of wobbles along and you can minimize
• 32:44
  Speaker 18: the cost you forget the design of this right. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 18: the reality is we're in the middle of a transition
• 32:50
  Speaker 18: period that is structural in nature, and so you don't
• 32:54
  Speaker 18: begrudge a bit of cost of living relief here and there,
• 32:57
  Speaker 18: but there are other things we can do to have
• 32:59
  Speaker 18: a more coordinated transition period that allows the cost of
• 33:03
  Speaker 18: living to be minimized. And the reality is you've got
• 33:06
  Speaker 18: to do that cost of living in the short term,
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: but balanced out by actually having more reforms that build
• 33:12
  Speaker 18: in structurally lower energy prices in the economy going forward,
• 33:17
  Speaker 18: and that is generally moving towards more renewables in the
• 33:21
  Speaker 18: system longer term, because that is cheaper than what we've
• 33:25
  Speaker 18: got of them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, so they say, finding out, no other country in
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the world's even trying to do it. That's how difficult
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: it is. Thanks for joining us. I appreciate it, predict
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Philip there from Deloitte Access Economics. We're just killing ourselves
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: on this energy stuff. It's not helping the global environment.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Therefore there's no reason to do it. But we're making
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: our own electricity too expensive and unreliable, extraordinary stuff. Not
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: one other country in the world even attempting to do this,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and they know that what us fail and then they'll
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: continue on their merry way.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: We've going to take a break on the other side.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: More on this plan for the Brisbane Olympics in twenty
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: thirty two, or catch up with a Great Australian John Bertrand,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the Olympian and former Swimming Australian President, to assess the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: plans Well, Queensland Premier David Chris fully today confirmed the state's.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Worst kept secret.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Brisbane will get a new stadium which will act as
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the centerpiece for the twenty thirty two Olympic Games.
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: There'll also be an exciting new sports and entertainment precinct
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: in the heart of Brisbane where Victoria Park will become
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: home to Brisbane Stadium designed to attract world class events.
• 34:36
  Speaker 13: The Centenary Pool will be transformed to become our National
• 34:39
  Speaker 13: Aquatic Center with more than twenty five thousand seats and
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: multiple pools, ready to host international competitions and train the
• 34:46
  Speaker 13: next generation of champions.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And here's the Premier speaking about all this this afternoon.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: It became a choice between spending billions on temporary facilities
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: and temporary stands that delivered no lesgacy or securing the
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: future of AFL and cricket at a new home. It
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: became a choice between delivering a games with an eye
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: to the future or rewinding the clock for decades. In
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: the end, the choice was clear, the Games must be
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: held at a new stadium at Victoria Park.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get an assessment of all this from John Bertran.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Of course, former Skipper of Australia to Olympian as well,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and former Swimming Australian president joins us live from Melbourne.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Good to speak to you again.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Genre right off the top, what do you make of
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the plan of venues outlined today by the Queensland Premier.
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: Well, it's a pragmatic solution, I think to a pretty
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: complex matrix of options that they had and it comes
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: down to how much money. You know, we say within
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: the world of the America's Cup, no cash, no splash.
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: You know, you've got to be able to make stuff
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: happen with the amount of money that you've got. I
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: liked look, I very much like the new Stadium, the
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: new National Aquatics clearly, you know, close to my heart
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: being from a president of Swimming Australia, the new Aquatics Center.
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: But those legacy facilities are very very important. And you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: the fact is the Olympic Games is the biggest show
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: in the world and this is an opportunity for not
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: only Brisbane but but for Australia to show a voice
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: to the world as well as internally to excite a
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: new generation of young Australians to give it a crack.
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: So you know, generally, I think the solution that's rolled
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: out is good and they've got to get on with it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: You know, there's not a lot of time they've got
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: to start building this, all these facilities exactly.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: They have got enough time.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: It would have been better if they started already, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: they need to get cracking on.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I'll come back to swimming in a moment.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But the stadium is the big controversy and to me
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that's the big winner though because as of mel Bernie
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and you'll know what it's like to have footy and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: cricket at the mcg close of the city. Adelaide and
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Perth get that now as well, and you have other
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: major events.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And concerts there.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It really does great things for sport and the city
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to have that universal stadium close to the heart of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the city. Does it long term?
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: Yes, as they say, build facilities and people come, build
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: great facilities, and we see that over in Perth for example,
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: where the Optus Stadium. And yes, you're right in you
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: Adelaide's been fired up with the way they've done the
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: Adelaide Oval and the facilities around it and the restaurants
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: and so on, and it's a go to place now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: Adelaide's really I'm doing very very well. So I think
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: again building again what we call the Legacy facility in
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: Brisbane close to the CBD, which is a big, big deal.
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: To be able to have even real estate, to be
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: able to do that is a long term win for
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: obviously for the city of Brisbane.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now with swimming, there was talk about another proposal,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: another another Greenfield's propos really, but I've gone with the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Centenary Pool, turning that into a national swimming center. It
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: sounds like you're pretty happy with that planner. I think
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a twenty five thousand seat main pool, but a series
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of pools there.
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: I was talking to Robbie Woodhouse, who's the CEO of
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: Swimming Australia today, obviously getting his opinion on it. He's
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: over the moon. He thinks it's great. It's a great,
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: great opportunity to set the stage really in his words,
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: for the next fifty years of young people aspiring to
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: be higher, further and faster. You know, the Olympic idiot.
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: And this is a world class facility, not only swimming,
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: but you know we're talking about you know, the other
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: aquatic sports as well of course, and that's you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: it bodes well. It's great and also interesting enough. We've
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: got the facilities up north with Sundays and Townsville for
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: sailing facilities and that will showcase the country to the world.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I wanted to finish on that. As an Olympic medalist
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: yourself in sailing, give us a sense of what would
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: we like to do Olympic levels sailing in the gorgeous
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: location of the Sundays and also give us a sense
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of the vibe you think Queenstown will be able to deliver,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: because I still remember, like it was yesterday, the friendliness
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and enthusiasm of Sydney, and I would have thought Queenslanders
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: could just about top that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: Well, you know this is this is not only for
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: this is not only for Brisbane and Queensland. It's for
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: the country and US Ozzies do it really well.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: The Friendly Games, two thousand Olympics people are blown away.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: I still remember, you know, getting on the train, the
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: megaphone saying it's only another hour, which is a joke
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: to get onto the train. You know, it's all part
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: of the hamming it up, Ossie style.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: You know the Americans were wondering what the hell was
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: going on.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic and.
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: You know that's all part and pussle again. You know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: twenty thirty two wonderful, wonderful roadmap to get there, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: you know, these young people again, it's aspirational and around
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: this thing called sport, which really is part and past
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: of who we are as a nation. We have major
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: you know, we have major issues regarding integration with people
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: from around the world, and again, sport is a very
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: very important part of you know, bringing people together. So
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: I think, you know, good on what they've announced today
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: and I think, you know, let's just make this stuff happen.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Well said John, Thanks so much for joining us again.
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: My pleasure.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: John bertrand the legitimateus Oussie legend giving his assessment and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen up there in Brisbane. Bring it on.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I say, we're going to go to another break. On
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the other side, we'll catch up with Steven Center Tampa
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: and Liza God I'll get through all the big issues
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of the day, the budget included, plus Joe Biden back
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: in the Spotlight will show you in a moment. Great
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: panel tonight with Lisa Goddard standing in for Cusio Brian
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: who's in the budget lock up. Lisa joins us from Brisbane,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and of course Steven Senna Tiempo Radio two double co
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: host joins us from Canberra again inside Parliament House. Great
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: to see you both again, Lisa, I got to get your.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Thoughts first up.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: This massive announcement really today will be just dominating everything
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that's happening in Queensland at the moment.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I reckon it's a great move.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a bit skeptical about the rowing up in the
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Fitzroy River which has crocodiles in its lower riches, but
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the whole setup in the new stadium looks fantastic. What's
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: your take and what's the response around Brisbane today?
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, completely agree with you, Chris.
• 41:44
  Speaker 19: And look it's very much gone from Brisbane twenty thirty
• 41:47
  Speaker 19: two I think to Queensland twenty thirty two.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: And if you listen to Chris A.
• 41:50
  Speaker 19: Fuley today and how he explained it, he is delivering
• 41:53
  Speaker 19: this across regional Queensland and bring everybody on board because
• 41:56
  Speaker 19: you know how much contempt there is from people es
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: particularly up in North Queensland, about money being sent spent
• 42:01
  Speaker 19: in Southeast Queensland.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: So this way everyone is feeling the love.
• 42:04
  Speaker 19: He was very quick to defend the Rockhampton decision and says, look,
• 42:07
  Speaker 19: there are all kinds of people out there rowing on
• 42:09
  Speaker 19: that rib on the Pittroy River regularly, and I don't
• 42:12
  Speaker 19: think he's very worried.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: About those crocodiles. But look, it makes a very good headline,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: doesn't it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It does. It gets all that excitement. Of course, then
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: they're doing it upstream away from any thread of crocodiles.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: They're not idiots, but I think it's great. Imagine those
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: headlines around the world as we speak about, you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the Olympics in Australia with crocodiles and Stephen the other thing,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: There's going to be so many great opportunities. You imagine
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the vision of the beaches and all the rest in Queensland.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: But can you imagine the Olympic sailing being broadcast around
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the world from the wit Sundays. I mean they're going
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: to have to build a new airport there afterwards because
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: everyone I want to go there.
• 42:49
  Speaker 20: Magnificent and it's one of those great opportunities we have
• 42:51
  Speaker 20: in Australia as those beautiful backdrops we have. But when
• 42:53
  Speaker 20: it comes to the rowing, I think We're going to
• 42:54
  Speaker 20: see a lot of records broken. If the crops do
• 42:57
  Speaker 20: en crouch on the bit where they're doing the running,
• 42:59
  Speaker 20: I think they'll be rowing for their lives. But yeah, look,
• 43:01
  Speaker 20: great announcement. Having the Olympics in Australia is always fantastic.
• 43:05
  Speaker 20: I remember vividly spending time in Sydney while I lived
• 43:07
  Speaker 20: in Sydney during the two thousand Olympics and it brought
• 43:10
  Speaker 20: the city a life for two weeks.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fantastic. I'm so excited for myself and
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: my children that they're going to get to experience the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Olympics in Australia.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Let's bring the mood down though now and talk about
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the budget. Let's kick off on energy. Here's what Chris
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Bowen was saying today about energy in a.
• 43:29
  Speaker 21: Period where energy prices are elevated around the world. Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 21: when energy, Government's got the backs of the Australian people
• 43:36
  Speaker 21: to help them through that period. And of course the
• 43:38
  Speaker 21: other thing we're doing is continuing with what the experts
• 43:42
  Speaker 21: say is the best play.
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: For the cheapest energy price is going forward.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Lisa, this does my head and this is the bloke
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: who promised to cut our bills by two seventy five
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: dollars a year.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: They've gone up by three or four times that amount.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Now he's expecting gratitude because he's having to spend more
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of our tax dollars to pay them back to us
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to try and take the edge off those price hikes.
• 44:06
  Speaker 19: Yeah, so every decision he's making is hiking the prices up,
• 44:08
  Speaker 19: and then he's giving our own taxpayer dollars back to
• 44:10
  Speaker 19: us like Santa Claus to say, here you go, it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 19: all going to be much better for you. But tonight,
• 44:14
  Speaker 19: you've got three point four million households around this country
• 44:17
  Speaker 19: that are.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: In food insecurity.
• 44:19
  Speaker 19: You've got more people than ever who are on hardship
• 44:21
  Speaker 19: payments for electricity, and yet you've got Bowen and the
• 44:24
  Speaker 19: rest of the labor government saying, well, we're going to
• 44:26
  Speaker 19: throw all this money out you and make it so
• 44:27
  Speaker 19: much better for you. It's not and lucky some of
• 44:30
  Speaker 19: them won't even have the money to actually put the
• 44:31
  Speaker 19: TV on tonight to even watch it if they could
• 44:33
  Speaker 19: be bothered.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It's just a shocker and Steven.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: At the top of the show, I replayed Anthony Albanisi
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: from his home ground interview at Radio National this morning,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: where he said debt had been cut under his watch,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Debt has gone up sixty billion dollars. It's going to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: hit a trillion dollars. I think I misspoke and called
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: that a billion dollars with Tim Blair. Are trillion dollars
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: one thousand billion dollars soon. And yet he's trying to
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: pretend that's gone in the other direction.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it's one of those things, isn't it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 20: That we've we inherited a situation coming off the back
• 45:05
  Speaker 20: of the pandemic that was not optimal because of we
• 45:08
  Speaker 20: had this extraordinary event that happened.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Some things have.
• 45:11
  Speaker 20: Accidentally gone our way where we've been able to bring
• 45:13
  Speaker 20: in more revenue, so we can pretend that we've actually
• 45:15
  Speaker 20: managed the economy properly. Now that it's starting to tank
• 45:18
  Speaker 20: again because we don't have that extra money coming in,
• 45:20
  Speaker 20: we're going to pretend it's everybody else's fault, and we'll
• 45:22
  Speaker 20: pretend we've done such a good job, and we'll just
• 45:24
  Speaker 20: tell you what you want to hear. Look, this is
• 45:26
  Speaker 20: going to be, as I said a few weeks ago
• 45:28
  Speaker 20: on your program, Chris, this is going to be an
• 45:29
  Speaker 20: Oprah Winfrey budget. A billion dollars here, a billion dollars there.
• 45:32
  Speaker 20: Everybody gets a billion dollars, But it's our money that
• 45:34
  Speaker 20: they're giving back to us. And with these energy rebates,
• 45:38
  Speaker 20: it's more even more insidious, and that in the way
• 45:40
  Speaker 20: they've done it, they've made it look like it's not
• 45:41
  Speaker 20: affecting inflation when it actually is.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: But it makes their figures look good.
• 45:45
  Speaker 20: And as we all know, the official figures don't tell
• 45:47
  Speaker 20: the story about what's happening on the street.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a hell of a worry. And the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: real concern is this sort of con this sort of
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: opera Winfrey con as you say, we'll get them over
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the line in the election in six or seven weeks.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: They're really treating people like market. What I loved, yeah, Lisa, what.
• 46:04
  Speaker 19: I loved was that you've got charmers out there saying
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: it's a rare opportunity to put the economy back front
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: and center.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the newsplash for your treasurer.
• 46:11
  Speaker 19: The economy and how hard people are doing it out
• 46:13
  Speaker 19: there has been front and center for many years.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: We don't need tonight's budget to tell us that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, a good point. No one needs to remind
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: hi about the cost of live in economies.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: His job. Yeah, yeah, well he's a spectator really, just
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: he just watches it all unfold.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Now I was speaking of spectatoring.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I want to have a quick look at AMP. They
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: got a lot of people working from home, as most
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: big organizations do. They're having to promise them Stephen that
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: they're not filming them.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: While they're while they're at work.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: There are reports they might film them, but surely there
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: are all these work computers. They're keeping a pretty close
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: eye on.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: The hours on the keyboard, if you like.
• 46:49
  Speaker 20: I think they should have come out and explicitly said
• 46:51
  Speaker 20: we are filming everybody.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: That would have been a.
• 46:52
  Speaker 20: Guaranteed way of getting people back to the office. And
• 46:55
  Speaker 20: now I'm thinking the government should actually do it in
• 46:56
  Speaker 20: the public service because that'll get all the public servants
• 46:59
  Speaker 20: back to work, that's for sure.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Well that's a good point.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: But the trouble is if they said they were going
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to film their workers working from home, they would have
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: had to have go pros down at the beach and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: down at the park and everywhere else. Their workers are
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: scattered during the day. What do you think about did
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: you bake backgrounds? Do you think this debate's playing out
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: all right for the coalition Lisa that's saying that the
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: public servants need to get back to the office. Or
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: is this sort of backlash suggesting you're against workplace flexibility
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and mum's working from home. Is that winning the day?
• 47:33
  Speaker 19: Well, see my view on this is I run a
• 47:35
  Speaker 19: small business, so I know what it's like to have
• 47:37
  Speaker 19: staff in the office.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: I know you have to be.
• 47:39
  Speaker 19: Flexible and allow that when the children are sickt whatever
• 47:41
  Speaker 19: is happening. You allow some hybrid working, but I don't
• 47:44
  Speaker 19: think you should go as far as filming or videoing
• 47:47
  Speaker 19: to people when they're at home.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: In their office. But here's what sticks with me when
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: I read this story.
• 47:50
  Speaker 19: As an employer, I have a responsibility, through workplace health
• 47:53
  Speaker 19: and safety to make sure their home office is a
• 47:56
  Speaker 19: safe place now once they're working from home. Trip hazards
• 48:00
  Speaker 19: has it a material, your name it, The list is
• 48:01
  Speaker 19: as long as your arm.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: That's just another onerous.
• 48:04
  Speaker 19: Obligation on me, as a small business owner, or as
• 48:07
  Speaker 19: any employer, be at the government, be it a business owner,
• 48:11
  Speaker 19: manage these.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: People who are working remotely. It's cost extra burden.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: It's another one of those hr things we have to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: do here to fill out that you actually understand that
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: he has probably not good to work in your house
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: if it's on false economic but it's full of rattlesnakes,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: you know, honestly, Just very quickly, I want to show
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: you this video. This is from Broadway. Backstage at Broadway,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I believe our latest production of a Fellow And look
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: at that man there.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: That is the former President of the United States.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I don't think he does anything interesting. I
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: don't think he falls asleep. I don't think he says anything.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: But it's proof of life. We haven't seen much of
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: him since he left the White House. Joe Biden actually
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: getting out in about again. Thanks for joining us, Stephen
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and Lisa. I really appreciate it and enjoy budget night
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: ahead that is all the time. Just for a couple
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: of bits of feedback from that video I showed you
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: from that Muslim influencer giving a horrible take on Australian history,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and one of the viewers there says influencers.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Have become a major nuisance.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: If they were all demonetized, they'd be forced to go
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and work for their money. And Phillips says, what a
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: load of Kroc.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yes spot on Phillips if what's a load of Croc?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: That's why we shared it with you.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Thanks for watching, Stay tuned for all the budget coverage tonight.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I'll be back will the analysis tomorrow at five. Cheers.