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The Buss Brothers Got Buss’d, And Tyrese Maxey Changed The Locks · Front Runner Podcast Collective

• 0:13
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's get into it.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be talking about a couple things today.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh obviously, yesterday we got the news that uh Mark Walter, the governor, the new governor of the Lakers, made his first like real big move, and it had nothing to do with something on the court.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we're gonna unpack that part and how this affects Jeannie Bus and her siblings.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: We're also gonna talk about some draft items.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: We need to continue to talk about the top three, but is there really a big four?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: There are questions that I have to answer with that situation, and also we got some tidbits and some other guys that are doing some big things in the college basketball in international ranks that we need to get to.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: The last thing that we're gonna talk about, if you saw it last night, if you were one of the privileged few that saw it, Tyrese Maxie went absolutely crazy.
• 2:38
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• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: So it is a feel-good Friday.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: Hope everybody's feeling good.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling great.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, beautiful weather here in Southern California.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: The sun is out, maybe not for a long time.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: We've had torrential rain.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I know for our East Coast people, they're like, psst, what are you talking about?
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: For Southern California, what we got the last week or so, it's been torrential for us.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: Still makes us soft.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: I understand my East Coast, my northeast coast, east, uh, northeast corridor people really have it hard with the weather situation.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: But for us Southern Californians, we we went through it.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: With that being said, let's get into this pod.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: We got so much to get to, and we will start off in Los Angeles, kind of where I am, a little bit south of there.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: So the Lakers, they sold for$10 billion earlier this year.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Mark Walter, who Mark Walter, who is the controller of the Guggenheim group, who also owns the Dodgers, bought the control share of the Lakers earlier this year.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: And at the time he said, or he and Jeannie Buzz said, that she would stay on and help run the franchise as Mark Walter got his feet wet into the Lakers business.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: Which I find funny because Mark Walter was a part owner of the Lakers anyway.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: The Guggenheim group had about 26% of the Lakers beforehand.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like he was completely a novice to the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Jeannie, a minority owner as far as that's concerned, had kept her governor's chair.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Supposedly for the next five years.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: But inside the building, it doesn't feel clean at all because at the same time, this$10 billion era begins with Joey and Jesse Bus getting fired from basketball operations.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse walks out telling the athletic he felt like he was uh treated like an enemy, and we will get into all that.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot going on here, and there's a lot of history behind this, and we are going to unpack it right now, and I'm kind of excited to do so, not just because of the fact that this is the Lakers, this is the team that I root for.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: I still try to keep my anal my analyst hat on, but at the end of the day, this story is very fascinating to me because it has all the meat, all the juice of things that have been played out on little TV shows.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: It has some things that have been played out in like historic plays and and everything like that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm telling you right now, this is a story as old as time.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna start here.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: The Lakers, it's not that simple, the organizational chart update.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's a red wedding in purple and gold.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: The doors closed and the music playing, the family thinks that they're in a celebration, and when it's all over, the air that was supposed to help run basketball ops is bleeding out in the parking lot with a quote instead of a promotion.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: So tonight we're going to walk the trail from Jerry Bruck Bus, who is Dr.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry Bus, the original promise, to this$10 billion throne room.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to hit the Palace Uprising, the mom and pop way of this global brand that was actually run that way.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse's version of why he felt like the enemy, and then we're gonna put it all that next to Mark Walters Dodgers resume, because I think we're gonna have some things that we're gonna need to kind of look at, kind of compare and contrast.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: And after everything that happened, are the Lakers finally becoming the modern uh think tank?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Or did they or did we just watch Richard Monarchy clear the floor so the throne looks neat for the new king?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to take you through this.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Dr.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry Buss was one of the greatest owners in the history of the NBA.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: He brought us Magic, he brought us Showtime, he brought us the Laker Girls, he brought us stars on the court, like New York gets love because of what they do.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Ben Stiller, Spike Lee, what have you, but we started that.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: We started that here in all in the la.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: What has gone on and what was promised?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, kind of didn't work out that way.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Dr.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry Bros inteller Jesse says Genie is gonna run the business side.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Joey and Jesse will eventually help run basketball operations.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: The plan was clear.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: The bus siblings share ownership.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is very important.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: For you who are not caught up to date and just know the figurehead that is Jeannie Bus.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful, blonde, smart, um, ruthless when it comes to business, savvy when it comes to you know negotiations and things of that nature.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people did not realize, or if you were if you're a Lakers fan, you know this.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: The money that was received, like in revenue for the Lakers, was split.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: It was split six ways.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh huh.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's six kids.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Joey and Jesse, part of the Lakers organization.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: There's a couple siblings, one who left the organization earlier because they were making stupid, stupid decisions when it came to free agency and things of that nature.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's a couple sisters who really have nothing to do with the organization whatsoever.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: So when we talk about how the Lakers have been frugal, keep in mind some of that frugality came from how much were the siblings wanting to invest back into the basketball, back into the Lakers.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: And if you are a person who, you know, is more self-centric, who is thinking of themselves, and I understand that there's a lot of people out there who say there's nothing wrong with this.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're right, there is nothing wrong with that.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing wrong with taking care of you first and then seeing what goes on.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Knowing that your dad, Dr.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry Bus, loved the Lakers, loved blood purple and gold.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: You would think that you would want to pay a little homage to your dad.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: And to see some of these siblings just kind of go like, yeah, I don't know.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I want to do here.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: That seemed like it costs a lot.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: That was not your dad's MO.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: That was not his mode of operation whatsoever.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: And to see it all kind of get downsized and downsized, uh, was sad.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: It was sad to Lakers fans.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people thought that maybe Alex Caruso, who is now two teams removed, right, went to Chicago.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people don't realize that he came back to the Lakers, said, Hey, I got this deal from Chicago.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Can you can you match it?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: And they said no.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then he said, Can you come close?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because I really want to stay with the Lakers.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: And the Lakers did not value him, or that was the narrative that was put out there.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: And simply, I don't believe that was true.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that this was a cost-cutting measure because the siblings weren't willing to go ahead and do what it needed to do to go ahead and get this guy paid.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Now that's a different look at this whole deal.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that it'll be hard for a lot of Lakers fans to wrap their heads around that.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we look at Jeannie Bus and we go, oh, well, she didn't she didn't write the check to make this happen.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: And we're happy that Mark Walter is here.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I think what we will come to find out as we move along and we get past the Jeannie Bus era is that Jeannie will probably become more of a sympathetic figure as we proceed and as we go along, even in this podcast, than you might have ever even thought of.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: So let's get back to it.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Jeannie business gonna be the governor, gonna be the face of the franchise.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Joey and Jesse gonna be playing the background role, you know, they're gonna be the backup singers.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Jeannie be Gladys Knight, Joey and Jesse be the Pips, or more new new thinking, Jeannie is Beyonce, and then you got Kelly Rowan, Kelly Rowland, and the other females being Destiny's child, right?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then Jeannie goes out and becomes real Beyonce, and she's like the face of RB.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: The original succession plan with no outside billionaires, not a one-woman monarchy, but a family run empire with different kids over different kingdoms.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Years before Mark Walter bought the Lakers in a sense of having the controlling uh part of the Lakers.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Do people remember the Jim and Johnny Bus move against Jeanie?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: They attempted to change the board and oust her and reshape control.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Janie Bus, who is one of the sisters, says it was an attempt to bust the trust and cash out.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: But the broth the brothers, Jimmy and Johnny, they painted they tried to leverage their way into sell and exit.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Jim Bus, who used to be like Mitch Cupchak's secondhand man, and if you're not familiar who what Mitch Cupchak is, he was the longtime general manager of the Lakers.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: He succeeded Jerry West, who was the architect of the Showtime Dynasty.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: He was also the architect of the Shaq and Kobe era.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: R.I.P.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Our guy Jerry West.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: So Mitch Cubchat comes along, comes in, he's heading the new regime.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Kobe gets hurt.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: We start making decisions that is super crazy.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know if you're a Lakers fan, you remember the Timothy Mosgoff era, also the never-ending contract of Lual Dang.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: That thing took a long time to get rid of, boy.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Before this, in 2017, Jimmy and Johnny Bus want to oust their sister and cash out.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that's a very important thing to remember.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: The coup fails.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Jeannie holds on to the presidency, eventually brings in Magic Johnson and Rob Kulinka.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, that gets us to present day.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: But the key cultural point is this once your own brothers try to remove you from power, every future personnel move carries that scar tissue.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is the first red wedding rehearsal.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Family members tested power, Jeannie learning exactly how far her own blood will go to move her out.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is when the Lakers became more of the mom and pop empire instead of how a marquee brand is usually run.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Creek will say they ran the business like a mom and pop, like a family shop.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Which, if you want to say that, you can because there were siblings embedded into their roles, but there was always internal beef because Jim didn't like that Genie was basically the face of the franchise.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: So he was like, Well, if I can't be the face of the franchise, I want to cash out.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Decisions shaped by trust documents and inheritance, not just basketball logic.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that what we were talking about earlier.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: We were talking about how some of the kids did not care literally about the actual basketball on the court or the product they were putting out on the court.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: They cared about how much money they were getting.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Bunch of family politics happened.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: From the outside, we saw banners, we saw stars from the inside, according to multiple reports.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Who worked, who got fired, who stayed on board, was much as about bus dynamics than X's and O's.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: The crucial content context of what for what happens in the real institutional wire shows up in$10 billion.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Enter Mark Walter.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Now, again, we told you that Mark Walter was a minority owner for the Lakers for a long period of time.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Jeannie Buss has been playing the long game for a long time.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: When the siblings tried to oust her, she got real strong allies.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: One was Mark Walter, two was Magic Johnson.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: We can say, well, Magic went in there and kind of messed some stuff up, which he did.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: We ain't not gonna sit here and say he didn't.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: But the one thing that Magic Johnson has always been, and he will always continue to be, is loyal and a confidant to Genie Bus.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: If there were rats aboard the ship, Magic was gonna be able to sniff those bad boys out and be able to say, hey, look, listen, you gotta look at this dude, you gotta keep a close eye on this one, and what have you.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: 2012.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Mark Walters wise the Dodgers for$2.15 billion.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Team is in mid-tier in attendance, hadn't made the playoffs in three straight years, hadn't been a top five payroll in a decade, under Mark Walter, payroll doubles first year.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: They start a run of 13 straight playoff appearances, they reach three World Series in six years and become Major League Baseball's first billion dollar revenue franchise.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Those aren't just we got star stats.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: That is what it looks like when your owner pours money into the human capital, analytics, infrastructure, and process.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why that's so important is because of this next step.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Earlier this year, Mark Walter purchased the the Lakers for$10 billion.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: When you purchase, when your owner, and we just went through this in Boston, okay, remember Wick Grossback said, Oh, well, I'm gonna be hanging around for quite some time.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna help navigate Bill Chisholm through this process of ownership in Boston and how it works.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: How long did that last?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Not very long.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because as soon as Bill Chisholm got his people in place, it was time for Wick Grossback to get out of the box.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: We need to push him out the paint, and that's exactly what happened.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Now we fast forward to Mark Walter.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: NBA owners unanimously approved Mark Walter's$10 billion purchase of the Lakers.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Bus retains, family retains roughly 15% of the minority slice.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Genie remains governor for at least the next five years.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Very important.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Walter will bring in the same financial and human capital investment to the Lakers that transform the Dodgers.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is where the start comes.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds like a moment the Lakers become a true modern think tank.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Joey and Jesse roles pre-firing.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Joey, alternate government, VP of research and development and G League leadership.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse, assistant GM, director of scouting, draft guru.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Reason why he's a draft guru, Austin Reeves.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's Jesse Bus.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: We can sit here all day and talk about the Lakers.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Austin Reeves coming to the Lakers has Jesse Bus's fingerprints all over it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: He will always be known as the person that brought Austin Reeves to the Lakers.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Rui Hachamura.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Rui Hachamora was brought here because they hit on Kyle Kuzma, who was actually traded for Rui Hachamora.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: So the 47% three-point shooting that we see out of Rui Hachamura right now, the almost 60% that we see of mid-range shooting that we see out of Rui Hachamora right now is because of one Jesse Bus.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Max Christie.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you go, well, we didn't get to see him do too much here in Los Angeles.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: We saw him play really well last season before he got traded to uh to Dallas for Luca.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's an important part right there.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: He was part of the Luca trade.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: The Luca trade doesn't get done without Max Christie, Jesse Bus.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse Bus wasn't the architect of the deal that brought Luca Dontis here, but he was definitely part of the infrastructure of the deal.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so having Max Christie and developing Max Christie was a very important piece to making that deal happen.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse has spoken.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: He has some quotes out there, so let's go ahead and get into them.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: He said he felt siloed going back to before the 2023 NBA draft.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: He talks about lack of communication with Jeanie and the organization while battling health issues.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Says he started hearing about the team moves through the media, not the front office, saying on his communication with Jeannie and Rob, he says he hasn't spoken to either them, either of them in five months.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Rob's communication was simply informing him whom they drafted and not asking him.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's some other key uh key news to this situation that I want to bring up right now.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Just like with any any organization, you're gonna have your hits and you're gonna have your misses.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Jalen Hood Shafino.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of Lakers fans are every time we bring that name up, they kind of sigh like, oh damn.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: What could have been?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm a Cam Whitmore guy, right?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a Cam Whitmore dude, self-professed.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: I tell you he's baby spree well waiting to happen.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there were people inside the organization that were split.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, if you if you go further into it, Jesse Buss thought that Jalen Hood Shafino was the dude that the Lakers should take.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: There are others inside that organization that thought that Cam Whitmore should be the person that should have been taken in the draft, and that's where the schism lies.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's when the communication got real shoddy.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now Cam Whitmore is, you know, not I wouldn't say thriving, thriving in the league, but he's doing, you know, he's still young.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: Still doing his thing now in Washington.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Has some breakout performances here and there.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: But we wonder what could have been under the development and the tutelage of the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because one thing we can't say about the Lakers is that their developmental arm produces people like Alex Caruso, produced people like Austin Reeves, and uh we'll see about young Barney James and see how that works out.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse Buss spoke about the culture.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: He says he feels like his voice wasn't in personnel decisions.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: He just he describes being treated as if he was working against them.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: He uses the exact phrase like an enemy.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Why is this important?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was dealing with a serious illness, immune therapy treatments, while the team was off to one of its best starts in years, while the players he helped identify in key rotation pieces.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: He couldn't travel with the team.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: He couldn't come into the office as much because he was going through some stuff.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: We turned the page.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: John also was kind of like, yo, I'm kind of ready to get paid, you know, and go ahead and sell the Lakers and get this coin so I can go ahead and live this life of luxury that I really, really want to live.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Jane basically the same way.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Jane doesn't care anything about the Lakers.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, we can put on a public face all we want, and she can say, Oh, well, the Lakers have been part of my life for such a long time.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they've been part of your life because them checks have been coming in.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as like any sort of real contextual interest in the actual day-to-day operations of the team, Jane had nothing to do with it.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was all genie.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: Again, Jimmy got ousted, and now we got Jesse and Joey who let's turn the page.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because now the Lakers terminate Joey and Jesse bus and members of the scouting staff.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: The organization does not put out a detailed public explanation.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse in his interview says it he says it wasn't a surprise to him.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: He points back to the cell, the long-running communication breakdowns, and his sense of writing the writing was on the wall.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: He also says the vision of the last 10 years isn't going to produce the kind of success fans were used to having under Dr.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry Bus.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: He hopes that Walter brings in the Dodgers model to the Lakers.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: So He's hoping for if you look at what the Dodgers have done, and if you look at their front office, they have several ex uh general managers that are in their front office.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Some people say, Hey, there's too many uh chefs in the kitchen, whatever the case may be.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew Freeman runs the Dodgers, and then he has several people who are very smart baseball people who have run teams before who can isolate and exact uh trouble, you know, watermarks, or whatever the case may be.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: He has people who are really good at scouting and really good at uh uh organizing the scout teams to kind of look for certain players, or this is a new thing that we found in the margins.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is what the data is telling us about what we need to do to win in the margins, and then speaking of data, there are certain people who are probably in that organization that have come from a strict analytics background who just eat data for breakfast, like we eat Captain Current Cereal, whatever the case may be.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: So he gets a ton of people in that are uh basically a conglomeration of or amalgamation of like one synergy GM that has all these different arms and tentacles and basically creates and melds it all together to create what the Dodgers have created, which is back-to-back championships.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, why is that important?
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because Mark Walter now owns the damn Lakers.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Might sound like Sal Grace, but Jesse and Joey were supposed to inherit the basketball ops.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're out.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Jeannie Bus, the sister, who survived past Cools Coos, keeps her throne.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: The new billionaire king arrives to a cleared palace.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: No more buses.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: There's not one bus that is not a female that's in this organization.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, you don't got any moles anymore, you ain't got no rats on the ship.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure people will argue with me till the day is long.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that Jimmy and John had a lot to do with the souring of the relationship between Jeannie and those two, Joey and Jesse.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I say that is because brothers talk.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: You sit there, you might have a beer with your brother, in this case, you might have a scotch, and you sit out on the patio looking over your million-dollar estate, multi-million dollar estate, and you know, you talk shop.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, how's it going over there?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, there's a lot going on, whatever case may be.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when I was there, you sure I'm sure there was rhetoric in there like that.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: So Jeannie's outlasted the sibling uprising and now controls the only bus seat with real operational power.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: The family stake has been diluted, diluted, and split, but she alone remains governor.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now we don't know for how long.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know if Mark Walter is about to get her out the box, but for right now, Jeannie, who loves the Lakers, his love not just owning the Lakers, but she really has tried to put her heart and soul into this business.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: We can talk about or debate some of the decisions that were made, but we can't debate her loyalty and her love of the organization.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: I go back to how Kobe Bryant, the late great Kobe Bryant, was treated.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: He was definitely not the same player once he had the Achilles tear.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Happened later in life for him as far as that's concerned, and he just wasn't the same dude.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: He wasn't able to put the Lakers on his back.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: But Jeannie Bus paid Kobe like a superstar, and she said this will serve dividends down the road.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: We always take care of her stars.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now that might change with Mark Walter, but if you look at the if you look at the Dodgers, they paid their stars.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: When they got free agents that they were very interested in, they paid those guys.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Mookie Betts comes to mind.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Freddie Freeman comes to mind, and obviously Shohei O'Tani comes to mind.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: So if there's a big fish out there, and the Lakers are what I would consider infrastructurally solid, which I don't know if that's the case, or what Mark Walter thinks of infrastructurally solid as of right now, look for the Lakers to go big game hunting.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Now I understand that there's a certain salary cap that doesn't allow them to do that, but I am sure that Mark Walter will find people who understand the salary cap to the most ump degree.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: I am sure he will find the best analytic people that he can possibly buy for the Lakers.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: I am sure that if he thought it was a good idea, he would bring on a couple more basketball minds to help Rob Puninker and shoulder some of the uh burden and shoulder some of the um I wouldn't even call it minutia.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: I would call it um hey, if you have a blind spot here, let me help you with that.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good at that.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good at this particular area.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then you can have a melding on the minds, and then you can come to a very informed decision.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think these are all the things that are about to happen with the Lakers.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: But you had to get the bus boys out of there.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: Bus bros, not good.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: Genie bus, good.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know why?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because Jeannie listens.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's how it goes.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Jeannie has been an open mind situation.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: When Magic Johnson wasn't cutting it as a as a player personnel executive, guess what?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: The proof was out there.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: They laid out the diagram, they showed and they talked to Genie and said, hey, listen, this is not working for us.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is the reason why we need to get Magic back in the business of basically promoting the Lakers and not really running the Lakers.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: And they got Magic Johnson out of there.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now, does Magic Johnson still come to Lakers games?
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Does Magic Johnson still talk to Jeannie Bus?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: Does he have anything to do with the day-to-day operations of the Los Angeles Lakers when it comes to player personnel moves?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Are there any hot feelings?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Magic Johnson is a billionaire.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: He don't care.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: He got money.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: So the remaining Buzz voices in basketball ops, Joey and Jesse, have been removed, and the new era begins.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse used language like sideline, should uh sideline, shutout, and treated like the enemy.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Now, again, we just talked about what Mark Walter has done with the Dodgers and what he should be bringing over to the Lakers.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Does Genie want to evolve into the model with Mark Walter's backing?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think that was been the whole point all along.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's been the point.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: When he became minority owner, I am sure those conversations were happening.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: I am sure she was talking to that man and saying, I see what you do with the Dodgers, and you have a real interesting, you know, uh front office structure.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me more about that.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, Jeannie, check this out.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: We are on the cutting edge of analytics, we're on the cutting edge of sports research and development.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: We got all the toys when it comes to swing diet and how to improve your swing or uh pitch shaping and all those type of things.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be surprised if if the Lakers have some sort of scientific arm think tank deal where you know they're improving the diet of all the players, you know, along with their personal trainers and uh chefs and things of that nature.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that people will be brought in.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that LeBron James people will be brought in and say, okay, you've been playing this game for 23 years, you are in phenomenal shape.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: What are some of the things that you've done, or what are some of the things that you've ingested into your body that we can go ahead and pass along to the next generation of Lakers?
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: I am sure those conversations will happen.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: I am sure that um teams who have really good um player development have hit on successes where dudes were undrafted.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, listen, I'm not saying anything bad about Jesse Bus.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Again, he brought Austin Reeves to us.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: And Austin Reeves is a great Laker, right?
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all agree to that.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, we out here trying to win.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: We out here trying to win.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: And if he's going to be able to do that more effectively by bringing in other pieces, other things, whatever the case may be, then he's gonna do it.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna bring in great coaches who maybe can help, you know, JJ Redick or help the front office be better about what they're gonna do.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: He might bring in um, you know, like, you know, people like Bobby Marks, but maybe not actually Bobby Marks, but people who've done the job and able to kind of just go, hey, listen, tell me what you see here.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Does magic get back into the Lakers?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I do know.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna close this out by stripping all the emotion out and just stacking facts together.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Fact, Jerry Bus, according to Jesse, told his kids that Jeannie would run the business and that Joey and Jesse would one day help run basketball operations.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: Check in check.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: This was an in-house succession plan.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now, years later, Jim and Johnny tried to move against Jeannie, change the board, and then bust the trust.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: That coup failed.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: The family war over the Iron Throne was real and it was public, and she never forgot it.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Now, fact in 2025, obviously, Mark Walter comes in, buys most of the Lakers, and we are off and running.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: His track record is speaks for itself.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: We know what he's done with the Dodgers, they got three World Series titles in six years, they have over a billion dollars in revenue for that franchise, and people inside the NBA fully expect him to invest human capital and infrastructure into Los Angeles basketball the way he did with the Dodgers.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Fact, in the same window of Joey and Jesse Bus, Jerry would be basketball heirs are fired, probably having a lot to do with Jim and John from their front office roles and scouting staff.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Team offers no public details.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're gonna keep this all in-house.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: We heard about the rhetoric that Jesse said.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: He felt siloed siloed, he felt that he was pushed aside, he felt that there was a lack of communication, and he hadn't spoken to Rob Pulinka in five months.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now you put all those facts together, and next to each other, and a picture emerges, a family empire that was fought over Lackathon, a record setting sale that changes the economic reality of the franchise, a new owner with a proven think tank blueprint, and an heir who says he was treated like the ops on his way out.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: The optimistic version of this story is that the Lakers are finally going to be run like the Dodgers.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Money, data, collaboration, deep front office, no more mommy pop decisions making on a global global luxury brand.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Cynical version would say that we just watched$10 billion Monarchy hardened, fewer buses in the room, more money in the bank, and same tight circle making the calls.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is the moment the Lakers choose what they are, not what the banners say, not what the marketing says, not what the process says.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: A real think tank where the best ideas win and royal courts where the last name and the inner circle still matter more than the voices in the scouting minis.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a Lakers fan, you've heard the route, you heard the seen the receipts, and you tell us after$10 billion sale and an enemy exit, do you trust Genie and Walter to build the think tank that this franchise deserves, or do you think that the rich just get richer?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's a bloodier Game of Thrones in purple and gold.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: I have to lean towards that we are about to see a real significant change with inside the Lakers organization, all the things that we just talked about with like the sports science and things of that nature.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see all of that.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: I am here to tell you I think these conversations have been long and they have had dividends that have been paying off and been paying off for years when Mark Walter was the minority owner of the Lakers and now he's the majority owner of the Lakers.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think that we're about to see a real change.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now, will it happen overnight?
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is gonna be a step-by-step process, and it might take a couple years, but in the meantime of those couple years, trust and believe that you will see smart people moved into positions that will only benefit the Lakers and what is going on with the players, what's going on with the coaches, and I'm gonna tell you right now that analytics department that used to be in a broom closet is going to grow exponentially.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: You do not have to worry about that.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Scouting and video coordinate coordination with the analytics is going to work hand in hand, and we are going to see a different, more tech savvy, more analytical way of the POV of what the Lakers are and how they move from here on out.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Now we get to some NBA draft.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: A couple weeks ago, everybody was calling the 2026 draft a big three draft with Darren Peterson, AJ DeBanster, and Cam Boozers.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: Three dudes good enough to make owners comfortable losing on purpose.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: But now we gotta ask a different question.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: Did Caleb Wilson just turn this suit this thing, this this three headed monster into the Fantastic Four?
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: The North Carolinian six foot ten forward with freak tools, two-way upside, and real star chatter from scouts, plus a couple international wildcards like Karim Lopez of the Breakers, and also Dash Daniels of Melbourne are making front officers rethink how deep the top of the this thing goes.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: It is still a three-man tank race, or is Caleb all the way in that top tier?
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: We gonna we're gonna answer this question for you.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Where does FRPC favorites Boozer, Peterson, Mikhail Brown Jr.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: actually sit in this ecosystem?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: And how much stock do you put into the two international men of mystery, Kareem Lopez and also Dash Daniels, and where you're talking real lottery capital?
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: We gotta have some fun right now.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: So you know about Peterson, you know about what he is.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: I get to the free throw line, dude.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: Boozer is just complete.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: He is as Tim Duncan as Tim Duncan can be without being Tim Duncan.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Now comes Caleb Williams Wilson.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: 6'10, 215 pounds, long-ranger, true, two-way forward, switches across positions, can protect the rim, and has legit shot creation flashes for his size.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: Business side, one franchise changer on a rookie deal.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: You tank.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: Three, you throw in a season into a shredder.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: Four, you got a full-on tank of Palooza.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: You see a lot of teams.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of surprise teams that won like two or three games.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: We knew Washington was gonna be bad.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, hey, the district, I'm sorry.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: But we knew you were gonna be bad.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Brooklyn basically proclaimed they were gonna be bad.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: But the teams that we were not expecting to be bad, Indiana didn't expect them to be bad.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sacramento, we kind of thought they would be bad, but we didn't think they would be this terrible.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um Utah actually threw it out there that they were going to be this bad.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then you got Charlotte, who yeah.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Those LaMelo ball trade rumors are getting super real now, boy.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: Super real.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: More teams are willing to bottom out, more are hiding wars in uh to trade into the top four.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um more owners are squinting at the stand and saying, do we really want that 35th win?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: Add the context that the 2027 draft already they're down on the top end talent, and that makes the 2026 the last big franchise swing draft before potential down year.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: Anytime that uh assets get scarce, you gotta understand that the NBA is a business.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: We can sit here and talk about players, we talk about just the imagination of what these cats are gonna uh do and how it's how it's gonna encapsulate the league and where they're gonna put plant their flag at and things of that nature.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: No pun intended with Cooper Flag, but you know what I'm saying.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: But when you sit there and you have the 2026 draft that's supposed to be chock full of like just various different types of talents that are out there, but it's really top heavy.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's some supposed real different difference makers at the top end of this draft.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta do what you gotta do.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: Hence what Indiana's doing.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Cause that was the one that we did not see coming.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: The Indiana one we did not see coming.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, Dallas.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: You can say, hey, Nico, terrible.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: But is it really terrible?
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: Is it really terrible if you end up with Cooper Flag and then either AJ DeBanster, Darren Peterson, or uh Cameron Boozer?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is it really terrible?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson is still number one on the big board.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's the guard engine, he's six foot six with a six foot ten and a half wingspan.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: He is eight seven standard reach.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Scores on three levels, you know what I'm saying?
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: So he scores outside, he can score in that mid-range, and he can dunk on people.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_00: Bill Stealth has already said he's the most prepared freshman he has he's had in his ranks.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: He says he can carry the load.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: 26-5 as a college line is on the table for this kid.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: AJ DeBanza right now is consensus number two.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: Best physical tools among the wings, bend, and plus explosion, uh, constant ring pressure that he can put on.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: In the Yukon game, he in the first half, he was one of six turnovers.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he looked like an over-eager driver versus elite help.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: In the second half, 21 points once the spacing adjusted and he started reading the help better.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: His jumper is going to be the make or break situation for him.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: Also, if he can learn how to share the sugar, will also help him.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Cameron Boozer, we don't have to talk about.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost boring at this point how good he is.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's just fundamentally sound.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he does inverted actions with Isaiah Evans, which is crazy.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: He has he's Kevin Love adjacent when it comes to offensive profile with better handle this early.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: The analytics crowd sees him as a high floor star if the finishing and the length versus length improves.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: But now to our party crasher.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_00: The 6'10, 215 playout standout with length, fluid mobility, plus athleticism, mixes forward sides with legit ball skills.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is Caleb Wilson, by the way, of North Carolina.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: And if you haven't seen him play, go check him out.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: He can put it on the floor, he could create his own shot, he can attack miss matches.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: Flash is scoring all three levels.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, his putbacks are legendary.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: The drive pull-up game is also really stellar.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: He has high-end switchability on the defensive side.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: He can protect the rim, rotate as hell, and guard in space.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: That is very important for somebody 6'10.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: He stacks blocks, steals, deflections when he's locked in.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is true of all young players.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: His mid-range fadeaways, his three his pull-ups and his three-point range are starting to show.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: And if this is real, if this is real, this is where we're talking about it's a big it's a fantastic four instead of a big three.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And that changes game.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: That changes game for what we're gonna see later on in the year when some of these teams start to fall off or injuries have them succumb to bad seasons.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: Utah is off to a decent little start here.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder how long that goes along.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder how long Laurie Markinen stays in Salt Lake City area.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: Do you shut him down?
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: Can Keontae George continue to have games where he scores 30 plus points and he goes off in the first half looking like uh prime like Steph Curry, shooting threes coming out of his butt?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you're sitting there and you're asking yourself, okay, what's the difference between Peterson DuBanston and Boozer and why is Caleb Williams now Wilson in this situation?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's the skill level.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's the skill level that he's showing.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: The skill level that he's showing, if it continues to repeat itself, if if it continues to be redundant, it is hard to sit there and look at somebody who's damn near 6'11, who you start to believe that the outside shot is for real, you see the pull-up game and how how crispy it is, and you see the rim protection and then the ability to switch out to guards and be able to be competent, if not just competent, of a difference maker out on in space.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: Those are things that make you a elite, elite basketball prospect.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: For some added depth to this situation, you know my love for Mikhail Brown Jr.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: But we got some other guys.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: Kareem Lopez, he's six foot eight, he's playing for the New Zealand Breakers.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's from Sonora, Mexico product, big, broad-shouldered, NBA ready, frame already, smooth on the offensive end, mover.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's more about balance and efficiency than he is a highlight.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: He can attack you off the dribble or spot up as a floor spacer, confident in the mid-range, you know saying he can shoot it, has touch from deep that projects.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's a smart cutter, good finisher around the rim, and works well without high usage.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: We love that.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is where he's special.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_00: On the defensive end, with effort and awareness, he competes like he competes all the time.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: He is not scared of the spotlight, he ain't scared against uh opposition that might have more claim than he does.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: He just likes to get nasty.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: He uses his length to k uh to guard multiple positions, he rotates and contests, does little things that impact winning.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that is that he's able to mirror guard, right?
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: But he's also able to blow up a pick and roll.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like he fights through screens like nobody's business.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he is not willing to just concede a bucket.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: Now, we gotta find out if the three-point shooting can be consistent enough with volume and confidence.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes the movements can look mechanical, more like a modern four than a gliding three, but he's also six foot eight and two hundred and fifteen to two hundred and twenty pounds.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: So position and identity is still evolving combo forward true or versus true wing.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right now, I think he's more of an evolving combo forward, but if he can show a little bit more fluidity, that is why we are in love with Caleb Williams.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's the fluidity of his game that makes him special, and that's why we have him up in the top four.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's why the top three is now a fantastic four, because we think the fluidity and the smoothness of Caleb Williams' motions and also the way he's able to score the basketball, we we believe in that.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: Where with Karim Garcia, we don't are sorry, not Karim Garcia, Lopez, I'm sorry.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about a baseball player, a former Dodger, by the way.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: If you're looking, uh if you're looking to pick uh in the teens or in the 20s, uh he I don't know.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think he was gonna be more in the top ten.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's another guy.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: Dyson Daniels has a brother, Dash Daniels.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's a little bit smaller than his brother.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's well 6'6, guard wing, uh, Melbourne.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's he uh he has length plus size to guard multiple s he's just like his brother on the defensive end, disruptive, deflections, contests, real anticipation on and off ball, high basketball IQ, plays with competitive juice.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is Dyson Daniel to a T.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_00: So it's great to see Dash Daniels have those qualities now.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: Offensive side, more advanced toolkit than Dyson at the same age.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_00: This is promising because Dyson has starting to take off.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_00: Can score on all three levels in flashes, so it's not consistent, but Dyson didn't show any of this when he came into the league.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: Handles quick and roll and can create separation with craft.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is also another big rel uh revelation when it comes to Dash.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: Dash has more quick and roll savvy right now than Dyson Daniels did when he was his age.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_00: I know we're only talking.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: About a couple years, but to see the growth and to see that, like that okay, this is already here, that bows well for a dash down the road.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: Developing shooter can't space the floor when set.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: So if he can just stand there and shoot the ball, it's good.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_00: Movement shooter, not so much yet.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_00: But keep in mind, dude's 18.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: 18 years of age.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: Already in the pro culture, elite coaching, vets, uh NBA, global academy background, uh concerns.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: He is his burst and explosion are not elite.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_00: His first step in vertical pop limits some some of his finishes.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: Needs to get stronger and more assertive attacking the rim.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Can be tentative in the half court.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Creation has to find balance between facilitator and scorer.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right now he defers, and here's the thing.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's 18 years old, he's playing in a pro league.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's playing in in Melbourne, right?
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: He's not playing for like whatever the uh overtime elite is or whatever or the G League Unite.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: This dude is playing in a real league in Australia with grown-ass men who got babies and got families.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: So does he defer more than you would think?
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, he does.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because he under he believes in the team concept, because that's kind of how he was coached to be.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: He hasn't really gained that whole like, okay, it's time for me to take over the game type of mentality yet.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now that's something you can instruct into him.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's you know, you you wish he was the other way around a little bit, that he was more aggressive, and then you can kind of tone it down.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: But we've seen this work in the league too, because the one thing that we can see is that on the defensive side of the ball, with his anticipation and with his work ethic and his ability to always compete on that end, you can transfer that over to the offensive side.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_00: You saw his brother do it, we've seen Jimmy Butler do it, we've seen others do it.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_00: Jaden McDaniels.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: Jaden McDaniels came into this league, he was a defensive stocker.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's what he was.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: The offensive game within the last two years has grown exponentially.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: This is what we're hoping for Dash Daniels.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: So we just wanted to give you a couple like little moves and notes on that situation.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to make sure that we go ahead and get as much of the draft situation in there.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: We are looking to have something out on our blog probably within the next month or so.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to have it like right around the first of the year where we have a really in-depth draft board.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking to put I'll put that together myself personally, and you know, you know, I got my collective working with me around the clock to go ahead and get that set up.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the last piece that we need to talk about before we get up out of here.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: Tyrese Maxie.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: He made us look like prophets last night, okay?
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: And what what I'm trying to tell you right now, what I'm trying to tell you is that if you're not listening to FRPC twice a week, if you're not understanding, are you not picking up the gems that we are putting down, then last night performance is not gonna mean it's gonna mean a lot in the sense of your entertainment value, but it's not gonna mean a lot into what we were talking about and how now it all comes together.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: Last week or earlier this week, I had an intrusive thought, and that intrusive thought was hey, Paul George is now back for the 76ers, and I said, at that point in time, do the Sixers need Paul George?
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, How long until everybody admits that this is Tyrese Maxie's franchise, and no disrespect to Joe L and B, no disrespect to Paul George or anything like that, but we can clearly see with our eyes that this dude is completely not just box office, but he has the ability to take over a game where he's what we wanted Ja to be.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he might not be able to to yam like Ja.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: He might not be able to just awe with complete crazy uh vertical athleticism.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what Tyrese Vaxy can do?
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's fast as fuck.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: He is so fast, and he puts pressure on defenses by probing and getting down the court so quickly and just kind of putting your defense in a situation where it's just it's it's on its heels all the time.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: So on Tuesday 5, we told the hoop loving community that the keys should already be in Max's hands.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: That the offense, the culture, and the timeline all needed to run through number zero.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: And not the idea of 35-year-old Paul George.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: I understand that Paul George was never going to be the number one.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_00: My whole thing with what I was talking about was we should not be waiting around for Joe Ellen B's needs to get any better.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_00: We should not be waiting around for Paul George to come back from rehab and provide this like veteran leadership that he's going to just automatically get 34 minutes a game when you got people like Tyrese Maxie, when you got people like VJ Edgecombe, when you got guards like Jaron McCain.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: Also, you know, shouts out to our boy Quentin Grimes, who's doing it real big in Philadelphia as well.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: So, 48 hours later, roll overtime in Milwaukee, no MB, no Ubre.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: Tyrese Maxie puts up 54 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds in 46 minutes and 38 seconds of game play.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: He was 18 of 30 from the field, that's 60% by the way.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: He shot 6 of 15 from 3, that's 40% by the way.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_00: He shot 12 of 14 from the free throw line, that's 93% by the way.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um he was a plus 18 in a 9-point overtime win.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by plus 18, you know I love the plot, the box plus minus.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm a big plus minus dude.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_00: The Sixers win 123 to 114.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: They moved to 9-6.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is no small feat, and I'm gonna tell you right now, it has been on the shoulders and the back of Tyrese Maxie, not Joel Embiid, not Paul George, who just came back, and I'm gonna tell you right now, Daryl Morey, you over there sitting like a looking like a genius because of Tyrese Maxie, we'll tell you right now, this kid is he is a savior for the Philadelphia 76ers franchise.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: This is not a cute breakout guard stuff.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is we told you that hand this dude the keys.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: He is basically walked into FI serve forum, took the title deed, and handed it to FRPC Giant.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're a right banner.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_00: This episode isn't about Maxie and can be the number one option.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's about what you do organizationally once the evidence says he's already him.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_00: If Maxie is really that guy, which he's given every every little piece of evidence shows that every decision from Paul George's role to the future draft picks has to be made under Maxie's timeline, and there's no other way around that.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_00: They've already given Maxie the the fun extension, the rookie extension.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_00: George is a high salary guy who's a veteran leader.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now, how he fits around Maxie and how many minutes does he play, and does he take away from the other runway of dudes that are out there?
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_00: Does he take away from VJ Edgecombe?
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_00: I hope not.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_00: I hope not.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: Does he take away from Jerry McCain?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_00: I hope not.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: I hope not.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_00: You start with Maxie as your offensive son, and PG either orbits cleanly around that, or he becomes a cap figure.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_00: You evaluate, meaning like, yo, can we move this dude?
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_00: Can we move him?
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_00: The Bucks game as a business data point on the road versus 500 teams without in beat, with Milwaukee sitting at 51, 45, and 73 as a team.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie authored a 54, 9, and 5, and zero doubt whether he was number one option.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_00: The 9 assists, only three turnovers let you know that he can handle all the pressure when all eyes on him like Tupac.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_00: You're paying him like a star, and he's playing beyond that number.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: From a cap sheet perspective, the question isn't can Maxi scale next to stars anymore.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_00: It is can everyone else scale to maxie?
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_00: Once you accept the maxi window, veterans like George automatically become supporting investments, not co-ankers, and that was the point of Tuesday's pot.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Can Paul George provide and provide veteran leadership 100%?
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Can Paul George provide a a respite for Tyrese Maxie, who was who has been putting in 40 minutes a game and in the overtime game, he put in 46 minutes and 38 seconds.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, geez, this dude played 48 minutes.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's a crazy amount of time.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: He literally played the whole game, if you think about it.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_00: There are 48 minutes in a basketball game and then a five minute overtime.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: He played 46 and 46 minutes and 38 seconds, so but damn near 47 minutes of 52.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_00: Can George help him?
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he can.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: You can run offense through George.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_00: You might be able to get better shots for VJ Edgecomb.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: You might be able to get better shots for Jerry McCain.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_00: My whole thing is this is that I don't want Paul George messing around, and we start to see minutes, his increments of minutes move up to into that 30 to 35 range.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's no need for that.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Paul, you've been awesome.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Your career.
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's been things where we wish you got better.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: There were things where we wish you could have just elevated your game a little bit more, but now it's not about you.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's about Tyrese Maxie.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's about the development of VJ Edgecomb.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's about the development of Jared McCain.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it's all about.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_00: And you are now a complimentary piece.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: And understand your role, son.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Understand it.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Embrace it, accept it.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because here's the thing: if you don't, if you try to pull some veteran, Jedi mind trick, cool type stuff, where you're like, oh, well, I'm not gonna be happy unless I'm contributing significant minutes to this team.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_00: You can go play in Memphis.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not let's not trip.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not trip.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Especially when we see in 54 coins on 30 shots.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_00: 54 points on 30 shots.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: This dude's shooting 60%.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_00: 16 or 15 from three-point land.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's 40% on the nose, baby.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_00: 12 or 14 free throws.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's 86% free throws, man.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's B plus.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_00: First quarter, he established his doubt Maxie establishes dominance.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_00: 12 quick points.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Got downhill, hit a three, lived at the free throw line.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Set the tone.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Philly up 33-20 after one.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie killing the game.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Second quarter.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Milwaukee punches back.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_00: They win that frame 37-22.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie said, don't trip.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_00: I still scored 11.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hit a pull-up three with 32.3 seconds left to go to tie the game just to make sure that Milwaukee knew what they were about to be up against.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Third quarter.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Ugly all the way around.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie still finds nine points.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Keeps the Sixers attached while the Bucks edge ahead 81 to 77.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_00: This is where the 06ers would have folded without MD.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, Maxie keeps applying pressure.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the fourth quarter, Maxie puts on the cape.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_00: 16 points in the quarter.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_00: There was a sequence.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_00: 12 minutes in the quarter right to 926.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Scores nine of Philly's first 11, including a 31 footer to give them the lead.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now, down 106 to 104 with seven seconds left, he calmly goes to the line and hits both to tie it.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that important?
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because you can trust him in big leverage situations.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's not just hiding in the corner.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_00: He's not seeding to PG.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's the driver of every big possession.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the overtime, six points including with 343 left.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Blow by layup.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Put Philly up a 111 to 106.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_00: He had multiple trips to the to the foul line to ice it seven or eight to be exact.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_00: In the overtime overall, Philly Maxi takes all of them.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Three level score, check.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Elbow stepbacks, check.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Layups and floaters, check.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_00: Transition finishes, check.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Repeated target mismatches off screens when Kuzma or Portis was on him.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Pick and roll, hunting people, he did that.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_00: He did all the things that you will want a apex predator to do.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_00: He did it.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to talk about culture and whatever, we said on last spot, if there was any debate on whose team it already was, you lost the plot.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's no debate.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody looked to Maxie.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because here's the thing.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_00: He is killing everybody.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not just like, oh hey, we're just doing this to be doing this.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Carl George had an official line.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_00: He had 21 points, 7-12 from uh Phil Ghost, 4-7 from from deep.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_00: He had three assists.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_00: But even with George Cooking, every high-leverage possession still ran through one person who was at Tyreese Maxie for show.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Edgecomb, McCain, and Walker, all the young guys are look looking at Maxi like, where do you want me?
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to be able to help.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is the exact visible shift we said needed to happen from MB, whoever, to Maxi.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the vets need to support that.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can fake being the guy in a hostile building in overtime, but teammates know who to trust, and Thursday night said a lot.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_00: The team already acts like Maxie, it's a Maxi show.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_00: The front office just has to be able to play catch-up.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to call it like chemistry experiment, it's going to work.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_00: What we saw on Thursday night has to be the elixir.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_00: The offensive hierarchy is solved.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie is obviously the number one.
• 1:16:46
  SPEAKER_00: PG is a spacing secondary creation guy.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Play some defense because he has uh physical tools and physicality that is something that the Philadelphia 76ers need.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's 6'8, he's 220 pounds, he can guard threes, he can guard fours, and hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, every once in a while, he can get the legs together and provide a little rim protection.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to hunt for a guard anymore because you got him.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_00: VJ Edgecombe is there, don't worry about it.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry McCain is there, and then you also got Tyrese Maxie.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_00: George's contract, which remember, just a year ago, just a year ago, there was such a dependent dependency on Paul George and what he was bringing to this team.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_00: And now his contract and his play becomes optionality, not life support.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Our Tuesday line was basically treat Paul George as an evaluation asset, treat Maxie as a long-term certainty.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_00: This game was exhibit A for that framework.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_00: The smarter front offices is that the colder they get about the past, the version of Paul George, and the warmer they get about the present, which is Tyrese Maxi, the better off you're gonna be.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_00: We will say it for the last time.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Every move from here on out needs to answer one question.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Does it help zero?
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_00: In May?
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_00: If the answer is no, you don't do it.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_00: And people will say, well, you can't win with guards like this.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not like he's six feet.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's sturdy.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_00: He's a sturdy guard with elite speed, and now he's adding foul drawing and pre playmaking to his his repertoire.
• 1:18:42
  SPEAKER_00: You don't ignore a guard who can give you 54 and 9 on the road in a playoff style environment because of the archetype fear built around a roster that covers his weaknesses.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_00: What you could do.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Shit, they did in Atlanta with Trey Young.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_00: You need plus wings.
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
• 1:19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, VJ Edgecomb.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_00: To the conversation.
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll say it one more time.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_00: If George is 80% of his peak, his value is still massive.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because your number one is already doing this.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_00: And lastly, basically, Tyrese Maxie didn't just justify having the keys, he changed the locks on the franchise while while we all watched.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Frontrunner Podcast Collective Tuesday, we said that the offense should be Maxie first.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_00: We said that George should be evaluated as a fit piece, not a main character.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Two days later, 54 points, nine assists, and an overtime masterpiece on the road against the Milwaukee Bucks.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: For our hoot loving community, if you're a Sixers fan, are you already emotionally locked into the Maxi era?
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Or are you still holding on to, hey, if we can get the big guy, coax him along, coax him along till April, and we can get Paul George ramped up.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can make an actual run to the finals.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you right now, do not live in a pipe dream.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Don't do it.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's only gonna hurt you, and it's gonna hurt your loved ones around you when you screaming at the television talking about we should have been a contender.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_00: My whole thought on this whole situation is that we talked about it on Tuesday.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: The developmental runway, go ahead and drink.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know y'all got a drinking game on this.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_00: The developmental runway of VJ Edgeone and Jared McCain and whoever else you bring in the building that are is going to go ahead and enhance who Tyrese Maxie is from here on out, is all of what Darren Morey and the folks in Philadelphia should be thinking about.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Josh Harris, who owns the Washington football team, who owns the Philadelphia 76ers.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_00: My thing is this you got Jaden Daniels, you got Jaden Daniels from LSU last year, and it turned your whole football franchise around.
• 1:21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Maxie has just developed, quietly developed, kept on working on his skills, and now you got a supernova dude.
• 1:21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Let him be supernova and build everything around him.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that's my that's my little rant for today.
• 1:21:36
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• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'll have watch a lot of games on uh the over the weekend, and we will give you our thoughts on what is going on around the league.
• 1:21:49
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• 1:21:54
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• 1:22:03
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• 1:22:08
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• 1:22:09
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• 1:22:12
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• 1:22:21
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• 1:22:29
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• 1:22:42
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• 1:22:49
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• 1:22:52
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• 1:22:54
  SPEAKER_00: And also, if you believe what we believe, if you're a Philadelphia 76er fan and you believe that Tyrese Maxie is that dude, he is him.
• 1:23:04
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• 1:23:10
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• 1:23:11
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• 1:23:21
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• 1:23:24
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• 1:23:35
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• 1:23:41
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• 1:23:44
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• 1:23:46
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• 1:23:59
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• 1:24:06
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• 1:24:09
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• 1:24:11
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• 1:24:15
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• 1:24:21
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• 1:24:27
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• 1:24:37
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• 1:24:41
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• 1:24:42
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• 1:24:50
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• 1:24:53
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• 1:25:02
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• 1:25:07
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• 1:25:13
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• 1:25:16
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• 1:25:19
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• 1:25:25
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• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Vince.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all have a good weekend.
• 1:25:39
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