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Ian Furness 9/23 H1: Coach MacDonald made headlines unintentionally... AJ Barner and more on the leaked audio. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light.
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  Speaker 2: Cold as the Rockies. All right, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start with baseball, actually. Just get this out of
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  Speaker 2: the way. M's, well, they still have a shot at
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. They had a shot at the playoffs last night.
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  Speaker 2: It was a long shot. That might be an understatement.
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  Speaker 3: It's a really long shot.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't show up last night.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: In no way, shape, or form.
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  Speaker 2: None whatsoever. 7-0 Astros. M's had just four hits. Gave
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  Speaker 2: up 12. Now here's a funny thing. Texas lost to
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  Speaker 2: the Mets yesterday. So the Mariners have not been eliminated yet.
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  Speaker 2: So they still have a chance to get in the playoffs. Effectively,
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  Speaker 2: the tragic number is still one. It was kind of
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  Speaker 2: one and a half yesterday. Because the three-way tie scenario
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  Speaker 2: still exists. That's the only reason they're still in this.
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  Speaker 2: But that three-way tie would result in only the following
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  Speaker 2: taking place. Seattle winning out. Texas and the Houston Astros
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  Speaker 2: both losing out. They both have to go 0-5. You
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  Speaker 2: have to go 5-0. Do you like your chances, Ash?
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  Speaker 3: I don't, actually.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Just checking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, not very good.
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  Speaker 2: The Seahawks back on the practice field today. We'll hear
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  Speaker 2: from Mike McDonald here in a short bit of time.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find out what's going on with Sam Darnall. We
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  Speaker 2: know that he's coming back this season. We know that
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, though, is not. He is the quarterback for
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  Speaker 2: the Giants, and his year is officially over after his
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  Speaker 2: left MCL and meniscus were injured on the Giants' opening
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  Speaker 2: drive Monday night. Season-ending knee surgery is what it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like is going to happen. Jameis Winston will take over.
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  Speaker 2: Jake Hainer is the backup for now. Sounders still looking
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  Speaker 2: for their first win. They First win in forever. They
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  Speaker 2: enter tonight's game against Real Salt Lake on a 13-match
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  Speaker 2: winless streak. Five straight draws. Game time 6.30 tonight over
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  Speaker 2: on 9.50 a.m. in the storm wrap-up their season. They'll
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  Speaker 2: finish last in the league later on tonight. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in here on a Wednesday afternoon, and
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  Speaker 2: we are at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center waiting for A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner to pop in and say hi. So he's going
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  Speaker 2: to stop by in a second. Seahawks tight end, always
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  Speaker 2: a fun dude to talk to. So we'll check in
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  Speaker 2: with A.J. Barner, third-year tight end out of Michigan. And
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  Speaker 2: get ready for the Commanders coming up on Sunday. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get his thoughts on the first couple games. Looking ahead
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  Speaker 2: to Washington as well. Always fun to sit down face-to-face
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  Speaker 2: with guys here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. So
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  Speaker 2: that's coming up in a minute. Mike McDonald will start
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  Speaker 2: speaking here momentarily for his weekly Wednesday news conference pre-practice.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll be monitoring that, as they say, Ashley, to
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  Speaker 2: find out what's happening with Sam Darnold. This whole interview
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  Speaker 2: gate thing that's going on, which we're going to get to.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: God, there's a lot of layers to that. It's salacious,
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  Speaker 2: I think, in a lot of ways. It's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 6: I agree 100%. When I was listening to it last night,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, wow. No, he really is not.
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  Speaker 6: This is not supposed to be out here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I first saw it yesterday afternoon as well. And
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  Speaker 2: my thought, first of all, is why are people... who
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  Speaker 2: and what is Graham Bensinger? That'd be number one. And
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  Speaker 2: the only reason I even knew his name, do you remember?
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  Speaker 2: It's not like it was that long ago, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: when the Mariners were doing the, when the Mariners and
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  Speaker 2: Kraken were both on route and maybe when route was
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  Speaker 2: kind of a bigger deal and they had the Graham
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  Speaker 2: Bensinger show, you know, whatever it's called with Graham Bensinger,
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  Speaker 2: you would see promos at nauseam for this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I know about him, but I've never
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  Speaker 3: listened to the show.
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  Speaker 2: I've never watched it. He looked smarmy to me. And
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  Speaker 2: I always thought, who is this guy? But he gets interviews,
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  Speaker 2: good interviews. I remember the promo was back on Root.
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  Speaker 2: And it wasn't owned by Root. He's just a syndicated
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  Speaker 2: guy that probably buys time across the country wherever he
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  Speaker 2: gets it on regional sports networks and so forth. But
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, how does this guy get– and
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking the same question today. How did he get
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald? Like, there's nobody in this market. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: There's nobody in this market that's gone to Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 2: house and sat down. I mean, King TV is the
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  Speaker 2: rights holder. They do that. They don't do that. We
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  Speaker 2: were the rights holder for 12 years at Fox 13.
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  Speaker 2: We never went to Pete Carroll's house. Like, ever. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder what that house would be like.
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  Speaker 2: He had a couple over the years. He had a condo,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he had something on the lake. But, yeah, like,
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  Speaker 2: that didn't happen. Right. Whoever had the interview for the
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  Speaker 2: week with, you know, as per the contract, whether it
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  Speaker 2: was Aaron doing it, Michelle, or me, or whoever... We
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  Speaker 2: would do it here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
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  Speaker 2: And it was, I'm going to tell you right now,
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  Speaker 2: it was state television. There were things you could ask
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  Speaker 2: and you couldn't ask. So how this thing even transpired
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  Speaker 2: under the watchful eye of the Seahawks is kind of
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  Speaker 2: remarkable to me. And it's not like he was sitting
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  Speaker 2: down with... Howie Long for a Fox pregame or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. He wasn't doing CBS or Fox or even
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  Speaker 2: ESPN or Amazon. They're main rights holders. Okay, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I could see that. You're a rights holder for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: The whole thing is weird. And then to take the
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  Speaker 2: next layer of, off the record, on the record, what
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  Speaker 2: he was talking about, I'm pretty sure, and we'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we're all wrong. But it certainly feels, Ashley, like
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  Speaker 2: that was not something he expected to get out publicly.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 6: It did not– I mean it seemed very casual. It
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  Speaker 6: didn't seem– I mean obviously if it was supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be public, I would think that the cameras would have
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  Speaker 6: actually been on their faces and not behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 6: And that looks real bad for Bensinger that they have no.
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  Speaker 3: That they don't really care about on the record, off
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  Speaker 3: the record. It's just getting leaked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it gets them hits and gets them views
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. It also may get them not
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  Speaker 2: as many interviews and whatever they're doing as they used
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  Speaker 2: to in the past because you can't trust them, right?
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  Speaker 2: And I know that people, Florio and others, have written about, well,
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  Speaker 2: hot mic, you should know. I get that. I understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Also understand that if you've worked in this business with
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  Speaker 2: any sense of accountability, and what I mean by accountability
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  Speaker 2: is this, all due respect to all the independent journalists
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  Speaker 2: out there. And listen, I think we live in a
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  Speaker 2: world right now where we need to have those, and
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  Speaker 2: it's good to have those. But if you're working for
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  Speaker 2: a company like iHeartMedia and KJR, hell, I'll use our
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  Speaker 2: guys next door. If you're working for Bonneville and 710,
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  Speaker 2: if you're working for Como News Radio, if you're working
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  Speaker 2: for any of the four television stations in town, there
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  Speaker 2: are protocols. There's accountability protocols. and and then just the
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  Speaker 2: the there's just the basic you know what's right and
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong you don't always have to be told off
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  Speaker 2: the record you should know if you've been trained and
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  Speaker 2: if you've done this at all in your life what's
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  Speaker 2: on and off the record i can tell you right
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  Speaker 2: now there's a if if you put through serum and
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  Speaker 2: softy and and started asking him questions especially now in
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  Speaker 2: a sideline role but about what's going on at washington
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  Speaker 2: with washington football there's stuff out there that he could
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  Speaker 2: tell you that there's no chance they want out there
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  Speaker 2: right um there's there's zero chance i I can't tell
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  Speaker 2: you how many off-the-record, never even said off-the-record, just assumed
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  Speaker 2: off-the-record conversations that I had over the years of working
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  Speaker 2: with this team more intimately, especially on the road, hotel
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  Speaker 2: bars or wherever, and you'd hear and see stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: there's just lines you don't cross. So that part of
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  Speaker 2: it is interesting. I'll be interested to hear what McDonald says.
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  Speaker 2: The best part about it is, the Seahawks scouring the
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  Speaker 2: internet for plays that are being leaked by fans. Oh God,
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I absolutely love that. I absolutely love that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the fun thing about that, Ashley, is
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  Speaker 2: that anybody who's come out to training camp here at
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  Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center knows you see the signs.
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  Speaker 2: They tell you, they warn you if you're a fan,
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  Speaker 2: do not be taking video of what's going on on
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  Speaker 2: the field. Enjoy it, watch it, but no video.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has a video camera in their hands now. It's
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  Speaker 2: called a cell phone. It's hard to police. They do
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  Speaker 2: actually police it pretty hard here, but it's hard to police.
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  Speaker 2: Us in the media, man, the second that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you can tell like when we, when, if you're
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  Speaker 2: at a practice during training camp, you'll see all the
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  Speaker 2: news photographers out there and all the reporters. We've all
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  Speaker 2: got our phones up in camera position. And you see
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  Speaker 2: the videographers out there and they're shooting video. The second
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  Speaker 2: you see those guys put the camera down and start
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  Speaker 2: walking off the field, it's, It's go time.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll have that opportunity here at around 1 o'clock today.
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  Speaker 2: I'll pop out there in a commercial break, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: see what's going on. I'll take some video. I can't
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  Speaker 2: post that until after practice. Right. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 2: on the air until 3.30 tonight when I'm off the
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  Speaker 2: air what's going on at practice. Those are the rules,
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  Speaker 2: and you abide by those. The fact that fans kind
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  Speaker 2: of have a little bit more, I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 2: really police fans. and if, you know, Bronco's Rule 65
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  Speaker 2: is posting something on Twitter, well, you can't track his
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  Speaker 2: ass down. Mike McDonald did, though. He found the video. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how they found that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, though.
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  Speaker 2: I do find... I think when you have a great
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  Speaker 2: digital team, and they do, and you have a great
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  Speaker 2: football operations staff, and they do, and a PR staff,
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  Speaker 2: it ain't that hard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 6: And I do love that it also makes Sean Payton
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  Speaker 6: all salty. I think that's hilarious, because anytime he can
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  Speaker 6: be more of a brat is funny to me.
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  Speaker 2: Refresh my memory. Sean Payton, Greg Williams. Suspended by the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you are correct.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just checking. I wasn't sure. See, that's what we
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  Speaker 2: do in this business. We get confirmation.
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  Speaker 3: We verify.
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  Speaker 2: We get second sources of information. Busy show coming up today.
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  Speaker 4: A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner is on his way in. We'll get to him
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  Speaker 2: in just a couple seconds. 1 o'clock, Greg. Stuart Mandel
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  Speaker 2: is going to join us from the Athletic. Can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Stu. Lots going on in college football.
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  Speaker 2: Huge weekend. We'll look back, obviously, at the Ole Miss-LSU game.
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  Speaker 2: But look ahead to USC-Oregon. We talked about it briefly yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Massive game. Not just in the Big Ten, but for
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  Speaker 2: playoff considerations. It's an elimination game for Oregon. If they
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  Speaker 2: get to two losses, how much trouble are they in?
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  Speaker 2: There's other teams that are playing this weekend that could
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  Speaker 2: be facing a similar fate. So we'll find out with
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  Speaker 2: all that coming up today and whether or not we're
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  Speaker 2: going to, you know, what's happening with that situation. So
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: that's coming up today with Stuart Mandel. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: the NIL money, too. His story, I didn't get to
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: it last week. I kicked myself. That's an error on Ian.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: Might as well play for the M's with my fielding
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  Speaker 2: percentage there. The metrics tell me not good.
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  Speaker 3: No, because you like to, you want to win.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to.
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  Speaker 3: You're trying.
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  Speaker 2: I would have tried for more than four hits and
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  Speaker 2: no runs. We'll ask Stu about the NIL money. He
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  Speaker 2: wrote the story last Tuesday, I think, Monday or Tuesday published,
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  Speaker 2: and I had it written down. We got sidetracked by
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  Speaker 2: other stuff with college football, but I want to get
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  Speaker 2: into that. They just did the Power Four Conference School,
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  Speaker 2: so what about the Huskies? They're kind of in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the pack of the Big Ten. Is that good, bad?
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  Speaker 2: Does it mean much? Do we know what the players
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  Speaker 2: are making? I think DeMond's one of the few guys
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  Speaker 2: we know, and that was just because of the lawsuit, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because they held his feet to the fire and we
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  Speaker 2: kind of found stuff out. But it's a fascinating topic
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  Speaker 2: right now. I know this, watching Ole Miss and LSU, Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: last week, I didn't really think much about NIL and
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  Speaker 2: Transfer Portal and all that during those three hours.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't. I probably won't think that much
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  Speaker 2: about it this weekend watching USC and Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: Probably not.
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  Speaker 5: I won't.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be saying fight on for like three hours straight.
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  Speaker 3: I am going to be too. It's like one of
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  Speaker 3: the three times a year I say it.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to just drive me nuts doing that too.
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  Speaker 6: If you want, I can help you practice that.
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  Speaker 3: You got this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I'm in. I'm in 100%. Like
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  Speaker 2: a true Trojan. Like a true Trojan. Corbin Smith will
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  Speaker 2: join us coming up at 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 6: Today.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get his thoughts on what Mike McDonald said. It's
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  Speaker 2: funny because he'll have watched a little bit of practice
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  Speaker 2: at that point, but we've got to be careful what
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  Speaker 2: we can say. So what we'll have, I'm assuming, some
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold news and other news coming out. So that's
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  Speaker 2: coming up at 2. Don't forget, 235 is your chance
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: to win big money. That would be a $ 1, 000 weekly prize,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: $ 10, 000 grand prize. And what's that for? It's fact or fiction.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by the Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll do that at 235. It's my pick today.
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  Speaker 2: I loved Ashley's pick yesterday. God, Fane had a good
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  Speaker 2: pick yesterday. Oh, did he?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: And it pissed me off. God, it pissed me off.
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  Speaker 2: He had a really good pick yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to look right now.
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  Speaker 2: It was Tampa Bay plus one and a half against Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Oh. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really like that one.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Okay. Well, you know what's funny? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Tampa Bay lost to the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let me do this, Ash. I just got a
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: quick text. Let me take a quick break here. A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner is just wrapping up practice. It went a little
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: longer than they thought. Let's take a quick break. We'll
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  Speaker 2: come back. We'll reset. A.J. Barner coming up next. A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner here. How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Doing well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Ready to rock and roll? Of course. Week three.
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  Speaker 7: Always.
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  Speaker 5: Always ready to rock.
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  Speaker 2: Week three. Let's go. How would you evaluate this team
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  Speaker 2: so far? Especially on the offensive side through the first
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  Speaker 2: couple games.
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  Speaker 7: Um you know i think we're doing our thing you
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  Speaker 7: can't be can't ever be mad about winning ball games
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  Speaker 7: um i do think you know we have a lot
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  Speaker 7: of things to clean up though as well and we're
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  Speaker 7: playing good football and obviously with the situations we've had
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  Speaker 7: with you know sammy not being out there and drew
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  Speaker 7: doing a great job but you know i think last
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  Speaker 7: week um definitely cleaner than week one um but yeah
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  Speaker 7: again to be two and oh um that's really all
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  Speaker 7: you can ask.
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  Speaker 2: For tell us about Drew Locke. We see him on
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  Speaker 2: the podium, we talk to him in the media and
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  Speaker 2: hear from him. To me, he comes across as one
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  Speaker 2: of the most kind of humble, and this has been
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: his two tenures here, humble, likable, kind of fun dudes
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I say borderline goofy, but how would
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  Speaker 2: you describe him?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was about to say he'd be a great
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  Speaker 7: college roommate or something. Damn good quarterback too and he's
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  Speaker 7: doing a great job. I think Drew's been doing this
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  Speaker 7: long enough and he's had success before that he knows
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  Speaker 7: what it looks like. It's kind of one of those
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  Speaker 7: things where Seahawks fans have seen that too. Before I
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  Speaker 7: got here, he had the game against the Eagles. To
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  Speaker 7: win two games, it's kind of one of those things
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  Speaker 7: where if Drew's playing this week, if he's not playing,
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  Speaker 7: whatever it is, there's really no You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: If Drew's out there, I'm expecting to have a great
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  Speaker 5: game from our quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mike McDonald just saying that Sam's going to
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  Speaker 2: practice some this week, but we'll see as the week
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  Speaker 2: goes on what happens. That's coach speak for he knows
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  Speaker 2: more than he's going to tell us, which is fine.
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  Speaker 5: That's not my expertise.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: No, no. For you guys on the sideline, because every
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: team's different. God, this has been a brutal year for quarterback.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this. Jackson Dart's out
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: for the year now. They announced that today. All these
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks getting hurt. Very few times do you have a
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: guy on the sideline like a Drew Locke. Do you
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: feel like you guys even miss a beat? Do you
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: worry about it, anything like that? What goes through your
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: mind when you saw Sam go down and knowing he's
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: going to be the guy, Drew's going to be the
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: guy for at least two or three weeks?
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, obviously it sucks to lose one of
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: your teammates and you're a little bit worried about your
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: teammate in a sense. But I think when it was
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: Drew coming in, it's like, yeah, I know Drew's a
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: very capable quarterback.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: In this league. And yeah, that's really all there is
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: to it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: You know, I think in playing for the Seahawks too,
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: we have a great scheme, great running game and, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: compliment any football that we play, especially with our defense too.
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: I think really the only thing that you might be
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: a bit hesitant about is just, uh, the pre-snap things
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: that your quarterback might not have gotten during the week.
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: So as a player, you might have to be a
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: bit more on top of your emotions or just know
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: that some, some, some things pre-snap might be a little
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: bit less smooth. Um, But, you know, like I said,
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: Drew's done a great job with that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: A.J.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Barner with us, Siak tied in. Ian Farnese this afternoon
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. You said something that
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: really caught my attention. I think it's interesting. Every quarterback
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: sounds different. Their cadence is different. How they get to
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the line, how they get out of the huddle, and
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: all those things. Right. How hard is that to acclimate
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to with a new guy?
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it is a difference.
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: And I think it's the different cadences associated with the
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: motions and the plays that you're doing. and I think
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: for me as a tight end there's sometimes where I'm
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: moving across the formation and we're snapping it on the
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: go there's sometimes where I'm moving over there and you
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: know we're waiting to snap the ball so I think
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: it's really a little thing a little adjustment there that
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: and it's really a half second before the play where
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: like you might be a bit wider because you motioned
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: a little bit further and that's something where it's a
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: week one thing where you know maybe that guy didn't
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: get that rep in practice but now you know Drew
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: played practiced all week it's like Those things should be clean.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: AJ, I'm going to give some context and set this
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: up because I want to talk about a drive on
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: last Sunday, which I'm sure you appreciated more than most
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: people would. And that's last year, actually, when we were
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: doing Kraken hockey TV, we had a pregame show and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: they said, hey, the Seahawks, during the bye week of
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, Seahawks offensive line's coming. We're going to put
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: them on set with you guys for the Kraken before
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: game on TV. And I said, oh, line? Okay, who's coming?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: They list off the names and AJ Varner. I go... Well,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: he's a tight end, but that'd be cool. He's a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: good interviewer. So he came on and talked to us.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: You're an offensive lineman at heart. Oh, yeah. You catch
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the ball, but you're an offensive lineman. I saw that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: last year. You're hanging out with Cross and Zabel and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: all those dudes. Yeah, of course. Those are your dudes.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: So when I put that out there, how about a
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: 16-play drive to finish a game on Sunday?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: What was that like? They showed a couple tight shots,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: by the way, AJ, of guys from the Cardinals, and
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: they're just like– Yeah. They were defeated. But what was
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: going through the mindset there?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. You know, it's just kind of the brand of
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: ball that we play, and it's just like finish the game.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: We love that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: And to be out there for the time of possession
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: that we had and to run 17 plays, that's just
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: what you want as an offense and to keep your
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: defense fresh and to really wear on a team. And honestly,
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: for me, I would say I'm a defensive guy I love.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: I grew up playing linebackers, so, like, I need to
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: get back to that a little bit. I feel like
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: I lost that this past week. But when I'm out there,
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: even though I'm on offense, I'm playing defense.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you go against maybe the best defense. Not maybe.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: You go against the best defense in the league. How
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: well do they prepare you guys every week? Yeah, they
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: prepare us super well. And I think that's more of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a camp thing. And now that you know you're playing
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: these games, it's more so like I have great confidence
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: in our defense that they're just going to make plays.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And it's third down, fourth down, and short yardage. And
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I'm getting ready to go because they're
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: not getting it. What more can we see out of
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the passing game? I mean, number 11's okay.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: He's pretty good.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: Jack says this thing, of course always does. And, uh,
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: just super, you know, consistent, great player, but, um, just
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: need to pick it up from, from all of us.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: I think it's a group effort and those things will come.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: And I think for myself included, that's definitely where I
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: want to definitely take another step. And it's, um, details and, um,
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: wanting the ball and being ready when it comes your way.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: And when it comes your way, you know, being very
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: violent with it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Um, so let's, uh, before we wrap it up quickly, uh,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you've got to go across the country this week. Back-to-back
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: road games. Arizona's an easy one. Down and back, pretty simple.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I'd rather go there probably in December when the weather's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: crappy here, but that's fine.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good trip.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: But now you go back to Washington. You go back
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to the nation's capital, and you take on a team
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that's 0-2, missing their quarterback. I know you guys aren't
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: thinking about that, but what are the challenges at that defense,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: what you've seen so far, that defense for the Commander's Pose?
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they've got a good front seven. They've got a
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: bunch of physical players up there. You know, their interior
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: is strong. The linebackers took it in the first round.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: They got Frankie Luvu, a good player. And they're physical.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: They fly around.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: And they've played a lot of football. So it's a
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: good challenge. And like you said, the travel is one thing.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: But regardless, you know. pick a place. We'll be ready
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: to go. So we're excited. Frankie Lou, go Cougs.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Is he a Cougar? He's a Cougar.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: He's a good player. That's back when we were a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: power four conference. Yeah. You know, back when we could
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: play with the big boys. Final thing for you, speaking
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of the big boys, this, this division is a nightmare.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Like the Niners look, They look like they're back. I mean,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: they're old, but they've been great so far. The Rams
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: bounced back last week. Everyone thought they were going to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: go 17-0. I guess 16-1 is still on the table
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: for them. But that's whatever, right? But what's the mindset
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: for you guys when you hear about everybody else in
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the conference or the division and not the defending Super
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Bowl champs? Because I walked by it this morning. There's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: a Lombardi trophy out there. Last I checked, you guys
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: are the defending champs. And I know that sometimes that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: bothers guys, sometimes it doesn't. But what's the mindset for
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you guys in that locker room when– Everyone talks about
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: other teams besides the Seattle Seahawks.
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: No, we lived it with the Super Bowl, and I
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: think there was a point, you know, with this offseason
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: where I was like, I don't need to see the
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: trophy again. I don't need to touch the trophy again. Like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: I'm moved on. I'm ready to go attack another one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: So I think with all that, you know, like they
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: say or whatever, people talking about other teams, it's just
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: like it is what it is. We're not really concerned
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: about it. And when you play in our division, it's just–
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: a great opportunity to go out and try and win
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: your division, and you put yourself in a great place
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: by doing that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I know you're busy, Dave. I appreciate popping by. Absolutely. Ashley,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: let's finish off the break. We'll let A.J. go, A.J.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Barner with us, and we'll take a quick break, come
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: back with more on 93.3 KGRFM.
• 21:18
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• 21:22
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• 21:25
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• 21:34
  Speaker 2: All right, we are back. Big thanks to A.J. Barnum
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: for swinging by. Always good to have guys in person
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: out here, so we appreciate that. Thanks to the Seahawks
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: as well. It was all on the record. What wasn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: on the record is what we're hearing right now. Oh, man.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So we talked about this at the start of the show.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald– we'll get the audio for later because it
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: just happened a second ago. But Mike McDonald basically said
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the viral video that people have seen, if you've missed it,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you have the audio?
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. From the interview with Graham Brensinger?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: You want me to play it?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So let's do this. I want you guys to keep
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: this in mind. This is– In fact, you know what
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: we could do, Ash? What? Do you have the audio
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: from the Dan Patrick show?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: That I don't.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that he said that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. So this
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: is from a show called Graham Bensinger. Mike McDonald addressed
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it a few minutes ago. He says, listen, he didn't
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: realize that the tape was rolling. He takes responsibility for
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: what he said. He said he's cleared the air with
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton. But this is what Mike McDonald said that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: went viral across the country. casual.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: So a funny story about Sean Payton and me is
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: my first year.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I like Sean a lot. I'm not his biggest.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He's not my biggest fan. So our first year and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: so we play them our first game. And so I'm like, whatever.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Fans watch.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Fans will tape or like post plays from training camp
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: on Twitter. And so it's like public.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: So we took like a hundred plays from their training camp.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Good for you. We're like scouting them, you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Know, and like, anyways, he got wind of it and
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: he like lost it. And it's like middle of the season.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And like, and we're, and we won the game. And
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: so like, and we're, and we were in the fight,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: like our first year, we were trying to, a lot
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: of going on. And so he called Johnny, basically like
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: threatened to, come out publicly and do it like a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: whole Patriot, like Spygate type of thing. Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there like, Oh my God. I'm like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: we didn't cheat like that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, we thought it was a Michigan thing
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: where we had a plant and the whole thing. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: we're like, so we had to like counter with him
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to no, really say like, Hey, look, if you come
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: out of this, like we're going to sue you because
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: it's not true.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Wait, did you ever, uh, did you ever talk to him?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: So he, he like, he backed down, but he was
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: like killing John or GM. And, uh, John was telling
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: me like, dude, did you, I'm like, dude, no.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Like, what are you crazy?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm not, That's not how we do business, you know?
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: And so, anyway, so the season ends, and he let
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it go. But it was like the Cold War. He
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm going to hit the button. I'm going
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: to hit the button. I'm like, well, we're going to
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: hit the button. So none of us hit the button.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And so then I went for a run at the Combine.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: And so I'm literally getting out of the elevator at
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the Marriott there in Indy. And like, sure, as soon
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: as I open the door, like the floor that I'm at,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: like here he comes in. And like, I'm, I was
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, like over him and he's like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Hey coach, you know, totally, totally back down in that moment.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh man, that was great.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You know, actually listening to it again, one of the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: things that, that caught my attention, having sat down with
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald a few times, uh, one-on-one, uh, including recently,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: just a few weeks ago during training camp with Hugh, uh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and I out here, um, And listening to every one
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of his press conferences, I believe, I don't think I've
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: missed one since he took the job, Mike McDonald doesn't
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: swear when he thinks a mic's hot.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: No, he's very, very proper that way.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Right there he did.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, twice.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Like it was a very casual conversation. He knew it was.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't think the cameras were rolling. I think actually,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and I'll just, I'm going to point one thing out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Having worked in that business for a long time, One
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of the things that I always, and I do this
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to Ashley too, and it probably drives you nuts, but
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: are we rolling? Are you rolling?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Are we rolling?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taping. Yeah. Like we'd pre-tape interviews and listen,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the way our show is and where it's at in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the day, we pre-tape a lot of interviews. That's just the,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: just the nature of, of who we talk to and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: have to have on. Uh, we, but I always like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and it's just kind of a natural thing that I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: learned in, you know, the late eighties, early nineties, when
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I first got into television, are we rolling? Because there's
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a thing in television called double punch where depending on
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the camera, a lot of times you can, if you
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: hit it too quick, it, record that stops.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Right. Okay.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And like, that's a, that's a joke that is, it's
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: not funny sometimes, but, uh, it's the, it's the joke
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that we have in TV when I work with ceramic
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and guys at Fox and Walker and the great crew
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: over there, Erica, we'd always like, you know, God, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: didn't double punch today. And they, there's times it just happens. Right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So you always, you always confirm the tally lights on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and you're rolling. So like, That's usually the indication, like, hey,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: are you rolling? I can't remember ever doing a sit-down
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: with somebody and them just rolling as they're set, like
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: having a stationary camera just rolling as people are walking
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: around and setting up. It's greasy on every level. It's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: just greasy.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: And you can see in the video, too, there's a
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: guy half in the one camera that's far away from them.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: It's not in their faces.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: It's like a wide-shot camera.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: You can see all the equipment in that shot, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: you can see a guy like... doing something with wires
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: and things. I mean, clearly that's not supposed to be
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: for public consumption.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And again, I just will not buy into the, Hey,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you've got to be clear. This is off
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the record. He's having a casual conversation while the TV
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: crew is setting up.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, personally, from my point of view, like when
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: I record an interview for you, I start rolling the
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: second we connect so that I know that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: We don't have any issues.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: But I will never, I would never air the things,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: the conversations that happened before you, intro and once.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: You are done.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's just, that's, you guys can talk, you
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: can set up, you can do whatever, you can have
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: your normal conversations, but it's only the part in the
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: middle from when you three, two, one, till the part
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: you sign off that would ever see the air.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I just, it's, listen, it's certainly not the end of
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the world. And I think the best part about it is,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: is that in the only good part about it, it's
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And I kind of like Sean Payton. I'll be honest
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: with you. I kind of like him. in a sense,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: but he got suspended for a year. The Bounty Gate thing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: This is not a guy without his own warts and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: issues along the way. He's not in your division. You
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: see him every three years, whatever it is, that's fine,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: unless you see him in the playoffs or in the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but that part of it's fine. He didn't
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: want that out. Schneider didn't want that out. John Schneider's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: got enough headaches as it is. Uh, the only thing
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that could have made this good was if it would
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: have come out in, I don't know, during hard knocks,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: but like hard knocks is going to use Graham Bensinger. And,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and who, again, I asked the question, who the hell
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: is Graham Bensinger?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: What the hell are you, man? Like, why are you
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the guy all of a sudden, uh, with all this stuff?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So it, it doesn't water the bridge. I think you
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: move on. Sounds like they've patched things up. Uh, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I'm glad, I'm glad he did. And we'll get that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: We'll get that sound for us later on. his whole answer,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: what Mike McDonald's talking about. But listen, you've got bigger
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: fish to fry. Sam Darnold's situation sounds like he is
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: going to practice. Greg's going to pop in here when
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: they're done in just a few minutes as well with
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: all the news conferences, and we'll get all the latest
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: news on what Mike McDonald had to say. So that's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: coming up too. Just real quick, A.J. Barger, wrapping up
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: our conversation with him. Ashley, he had a quote in
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: there at the end, something along the lines, I don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: look at the trophy, I don't look at the Lombardi trophy,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I don't touch it, I don't care anymore.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And that has been the attitude that's permeated throughout this
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: building since last– when were we first here? I guess
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: April for the draft when they were doing some early
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: OTAs and we first started seeing guys. They've instilled that
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: in them that, hey, be proud of what you got.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Wherever the ring is in your house, look at it
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: if you want. But I thought Barner's answer was perfect.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And when I asked him about being kind of overlooked,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, like, They like that a
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: little bit. They like it a little bit, but it
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: also pisses them off.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Understandable.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Which is good.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you've got to think like, oh, my gosh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: this has got to be a joke that we're the
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: defending Super Bowl champions and getting no love. I mean,
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: they didn't really get a ton of love heading into
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl either, did they?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: And the Super Bowl itself didn't get a ton of love.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: He kind of said that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: He said that, right? Like, yeah, I didn't really think
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: of it that much, but I guess it was kind
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of all about the Patriots, right?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: It was. It was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: And then if it was about the game, it was like, oh,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: there's no star power in this.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, then you're not paying attention, man.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. God, I remember that one. Was the offensive player
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of the year?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: No, that was the defensive player of the year, actually.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. I forgot what the trophy said. The
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: trophy did say that along the way. Let's do this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break. We'll come back. I think we
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: can get that audio from Mike McDonald talking about the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton thing. We'll put a bow on that. We'll
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: hopefully check in with Greg Bell as well coming up
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in a few minutes and find out what's going on
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: with Greg. and what's happening with the rest of the Seahawks,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's health, Zach Charbonnet's health, when's his practice window
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: going to open. We'll get Anthony Bradford update, all that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: fun stuff. So we'll do all that coming up. Stuart
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Mandel on the 1 o'clock hour. We'll get to Stu
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: either 1 or 1.20 today. We'll see how things work out.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: So he's standing by. And then Corbin Smith at 2
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: o'clock on 93.3 KGRFM. Back at the Virginia-based Athletic Center,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness with you until 3 p.m.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Today.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Factor Fiction coming up at 2.35. Your chance to win
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a $ 1, 000 weekly prize, $ 10, 000 grand prize. My pick today,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: need to get off the schneid. You've got this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I've got faith in you.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Ashley's leading the way for the entire station. Everyone else
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: has been awful, so I need to pick it up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, no one's been as bad as Dick Fain.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: He's 0 for 4, but he got a winner yesterday.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think he did.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't like it, so I'm feeling that. I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: liking that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: It's Tampa Bay plus one and a half versus Minnesota.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tampa Bay's a disaster.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay's a disaster. They couldn't beat the Browns, and
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Minnesota's defense looked good. Maybe it was sloppy weather.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Not just because of rooting against Fane in that show. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I am. Really rooting against Tampa Bay because they ended
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: my survivor rule. Oh, yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: See, they doubly screwed you over.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Before I got through one week.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't fall into love with Dick's pick.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: No, don't. I will not. I will not fall in
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: love with Dick's pit.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Whoopsie doodle.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I promise I won't.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: 49451.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Okay. Your thoughts, comments, questions, and concerns with that. Okay.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Let me get to this. Mike McDonald, we played the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: audio from the Graham Bensinger off the record, on the record,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: quote a minute ago. Uh, you heard that. So, uh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: well done by the media core here in Seattle. Everything's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: on the record when Mike McDonald's at the podium and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: here's what he had to say about the incident. Oh yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Um, you know, it's, um, it's something that I, uh,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I didn't intend for, for public use and, um, but you,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: you know, it just, uh, felt like it was the
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: most appropriate thing to reach out to Sean and really
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: just apologize to him for having that end up be
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: public where it wasn't meant to. Um, so I just,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and you know, you're kind of something that they have
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: to deal with in real time. That wasn't really, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: on their end. So that's, that's really where you're like crap. But, um,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: it's a lesson learned, you know, honestly, it's, I gotta be,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I gotta be better in that moment for understanding. Like I'm, look,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I'm responsible for what I say really no matter the circumstance,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: whether you're mic'd up, whether you're not, whether you have
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: some certain type of understanding, um, So, you know, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: fell short of that moment. So it's a, it's, it
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: stings for me, frankly, but it's something that I'm definitely
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: gonna learn from. And, uh, just a good example that
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: we just, you know, we've got to take responsibility for
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the things that we say. So.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Can you tell us what, what was Sean's reaction? Sean
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: was great.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Sean was great.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: He's, um, I just, I'll say, I really, I just,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I respect the heck out of him and his program
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: always have. He's a phenomenal football coach. It's been, it's
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: been great to get to know him at the owner's
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: meetings the last couple of years.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Um, and he was awesome.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: So I know, I know we're both looking forward to
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: moving forward from it, but, um, I really appreciate how
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: he handled it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Can you help us understand like the circumstances that were
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: you just like kind of shooting the breeze with Graham
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: before you thought everything was rolling?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Um, yeah, yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I use a term before I'll use it again. Ashley greasy.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: So bad.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Just greasy.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: It's so bad. Especially when he says, yeah, we were
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: just talking before.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Like they hadn't even, it's not like they were rolling
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: and then they had a break and then this was
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: in between.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Like he didn't even know they were rolling.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: That's so bad.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Which is, that's when you, like if it's a news,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. There's just different ways to look at it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: If it's a newspaper writer and there's no video and
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you're talking, you're a lot more inclined to say on
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the record, off the record. Right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: And both sides. Like, and, I bet in a given week,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: talking to different people, I'll have, oh, man, four or
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: five times I'll say, listen, just off the record. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: mostly what it's for. I think people get a little
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: upset sometimes when this goes down because I see the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: comments on the social media world. Well, I mean, you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: what is it if it's not on the record or,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you know, what does it matter? You learn, it gives
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you context of what you're covering, what you're talking about,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what you're discussing. If you have some background information.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You know, and I've talked about it a lot. Like
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I knew for a long time, as did a lot.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I wasn't the only one. A lot of us knew
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff going on behind the scenes with
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. And it wasn't for public consumption yet. But
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it gave me context for when they finally got rid
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: of him and why they got rid of him. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: then when time enough time had passed, I think a
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: lot of people started talking about, yeah, they tried to
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: get these guys fired. You know, that was given to
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: us by people in the organization, a number of people
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: in the organization. Just as good background and context to
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: understand why you would get rid of the Super Bowl
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: winning franchise quarterback. Well, this is why. We can't talk
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: about it. It's not something we're going to say. The
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: team doesn't want that out there until after the fact.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: But there's a million things that go on. A lot
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: of times we do these player interviews out here. AJ
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: came in. We were already live. A lot of times
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I'll sit down with guys beforehand like, hey, we're talking
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: about stuff. And just, hey, we're not rolling. I did
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: that all the time when postgame shows with Seahawks. Fabulous
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: conversations with guys like Doug Baldwin and KJ Wright and
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Cliff Averill and Michael Bennett. Like, hey, you know, we're
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: coming back in a minute. I'm going to ask you this.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Okay. But, you know, stuff like that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: It just, I applaud Mike McDonald. My God. Like, this
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: town and this organization is so lucky to have him.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of coaches, because you know the coaching world,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the egos of coaches are massive. And can you imagine
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: if that was, name the college football coach, Lane Kiffin,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Nick Saban in the heyday. probably almost any college basketball
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: coach worth his salt, because those guys' egos are bigger
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: than college football coaches, go around the NFL. If that
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: was a lot of different guys. Hell, if it was
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, they'd probably snap. They'd probably fire back. They'd
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: go on the offensive. Mike took ownership, took responsibility. Great
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: teaching moment for his team. The bad thing is, some
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: of the stuff that the guys that do cover the team,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: they give you the great coverage here every day. They're
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: probably going to lose out on some stuff now. Yeah, probably.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: They're going to be a lot. they're going to be
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a lot more guarded because this dipstick who never has
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to worry about coming here again, did that. Um, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and again, screw you, Sean Payton, you cheated anyway. You
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: tried to, you know, you put a bounty on a
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: guy's head. Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I think what you did was worse than public videos.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Of course that's, I'll just tell you this. It's never
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: happened in hockey. They've never put a bounty on a
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: guy's head in hockey.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Never.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Fingers crossed. I mean, I'm not lying anyway. Uh, but yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: it's water to the bridge. You can move on and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: away you go. So I'll I think it just shows, again,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the character of Mike McDonald and what he's all about.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I do think it's hilarious that they were going around
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: in the social media world finding video from what the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Broncos were doing and deciphering that, probably putting it in
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: their database, and here's what it is. I think, what
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: did he say, like 100 plays? Yeah, 100 plays.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: You know what? Be mad at your fans for posting it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: God, that is so good. That is so good. It
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: also tells you why when you come out here, they say, hey,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: no video. Yep. And I've always wondered, like, does it
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: really matter? Like, you know, does it really matter? Well,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: apparently it does. Apparently there is a competitor. I wonder
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: at what point, like, training camp's not a moneymaker, at
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: least for these guys. Like, it's not a moneymaker. Like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: they might sell some apparel and things like that where
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: they charge people 15 bucks to ride the bus. They
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: got to pay for those buses. Like, it's definitely not
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a revenue stream. I wonder at what point did they
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: just go back to the old days and training camps closed?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Gosh, I hope not.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not for the media. Like, we have
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of days out here where there's no fans.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But I wonder if– and Mike, it's cut down. It
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: used to be, God, for a while. Didn't it feel like, Ash,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: when Pete was here initially, that it was every day
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: was open?
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It did.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It did seem like that. Like 15 and 20 or
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I think they had eight true open practices this year.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: They had a couple others for like VIPs and stuff.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you may see that cut
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: back a little bit as well.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I'll take a break, come back. I think we're going
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to check in with Greg Bell real quick when we
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: come back top of the hour. And I think when
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: we do that, we'll get all the updates on the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: injuries for the Seahawks, who's in, who's out, who's practicing,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: who's not. Sam Darnold sounds like he's going to get
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: on the ice. Or the ice. I'm looking at something else.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: My apologies. Sam Darnold's going to be on the ice.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's the best move to have him
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: on the ice, Ashley.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: No, not with a hurt butt.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I think that might be a bad thing.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: No.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold should be getting some reps this week, so
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: we'll get the latest from Greg Bell, who is in
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the news conference next door. I'll pop my head in
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: there and see if there's a player talking right now
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: in between in our break. And then coming up probably
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: 1.20 today, we'll check in with Stuart Mandell. College football,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: huge week. Hey, Husky fans, how does this sound? Are
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the Ducks on the brink of elimination from the college
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: football playoff race? How does that make you feel if
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you're a Husky fan, huh? And you know what you're
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: going to be doing this weekend? I never thought I'd
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: be rooting for USC, but here we are.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Feels good. Only this weekend.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I feel dirty. All right, we'll come back. Greg Bell next.