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We Are Quantum Roundtable: Consciousness, Intuition & Human Evolution · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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Hello, everybody.
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This is Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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We got quite a panel here today.
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Oh, wow.
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We're gonna be talking about We Are Quantum, a new book that Lisa
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Schermerhorn has come out with, and I'm gonna turn it over to Lisa.
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Lisa, thanks for bringing us all together for this.
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Oh, thank you.
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There's 36 authors all together.
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I'm just sitting here looking at this amazing group of people, and I'm actually
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getting really emotional because- … this whole thing started over a year ago when
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my daughter came to me and said yeah, asked me, "What is quantum?" And I've read
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books on quantum physics, and I'm like, "I don't think she wants any of that."
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And then I thought, "What's the best way to explain quantum?" And I thought,
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"Through story." And then I started to think about all the people that
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I know that basically quantum is an expression of each person's humanity.
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Everyone expresses in such a different way, and I thought if people got a
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little bit fro- you know, something from one person that they can relate
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to, and everyone here has such an incredible, diverse background.
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And I just, the it, it's taken flight on its own.
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And I'm just so honored and privileged to know… i'm personal friends- … and
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have met almost e- every single person in this book except one person,
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which is Sir Robert Edward Grant, who came to me through another person.
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But yeah I'm so excited.
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So I have a number of questions, and when we talk about We Are Quantum, and I don't
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know who wants to answer this question.
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When you hear those three words, what do they mean to you personally, and
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what experiences have have convinced you that reality is more than we thought?
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So I didn't know if anyone wants to answer that one.
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It's a loaded question.
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I'll start if that's okay.
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Awesome.
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Okay.
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Quantum to me, I'm- I have a Christian background, so I believe it's
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describing us as spiritual beings.
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We have a soul, our consciousness, but then also a spirit.
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And we're in this flesh body temporarily, so we're more than just
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this physical construct that, that, we've been born into and taught.
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And so knowing that, when we really understand that and embrace that,
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then the supernatural is expected.
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Miracles are expected.
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We get- we come alive connected with our creator, the Holy Spirit for me.
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And I had experiences since I was a young child, and Lisa, you
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know quite a bit of my stories.
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And I had, at three years old, I had a dog attack me, and it was quite
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severe, a German shepherd, and I was being thrown around like a rag doll.
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I could see it because I left my body and I was floating with an angel who I thought
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was Jesus, and we left for a while.
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I didn't wanna go back to Earth, and then he brought me back,
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said, "You can stay or go."
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And I knew it.
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Obviously it was my higher self, my, my spirit understanding what this meant,
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and I felt bad for the chaos happening on Earth because my parents were very upset.
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Neighbors had already come over.
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They couldn't get the dog off me.
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S- you know, the yelling.
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And so I said, "Oh I need to go back."
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Before I could even get the words in my mind, my consciousness, I was instantly in
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my body, and the dog let go and ran away.
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And, people were shocked.
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They're like, "We have to take her to the hospital. She's bleeding."
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But when they started to look at me, there's not even one scratch on me.
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And of course to me I understood at that moment because God gave me that ability as
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a little child to know that this, what you think has to happen in the physical realm
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does not have to happen that way, because we're going into s- the spiritual realm.
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Time and space are not what we think of it here on Earth, and that's when
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I go into in the chapter I wrote about how prayers go outside of time and
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space so they could technically work in the, what we see as the past and
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the future, not just the present time.
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So that's my introduction to it.
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I the more I go through my trials and tribulations, the more I
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know this to be true and walk in the spirits a- as much as I can.
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It's a journey.
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Perfect.
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Amazing.
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Amazing.
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Chris… oh, go ahead, Michael.
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Yeah, I'd t- I'd like to go.
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There's, when I look at it, and my background is a Navy SEAL Team Six,
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Tier 1, and then CIA for a long time.
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Very spiritual, remote viewer, all that kind of stuff.
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But I look at it… 'Cause if I hadn't become a Navy SEAL, I probably would've
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been a physicist, believe it or not.
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So I, I'm really into quantum physics and mechanics.
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And it basically talks about entanglement.
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So particles can become deeply interconnected, instantly
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sharing states across distances.
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So when I was in combat zones and I talk about this in the book
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with Lisa I was able to know when attacks were coming 'cause I'm,
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I'm- … reaching that entanglement.
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I'm focusing my mind to "Tell me when there's gonna be an attack.
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Tell me when there's gonna be a threat." And I would pick up on it
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sometimes a week before it happened.
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And I would tell my teams that it was gonna happen.
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I would tell them where it's gonna happen, the time, all kinds
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of different stuff like that.
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Of course, most people were like, "Oh, that's crazy." In fact, the guys I work
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with are like, "You're out of there." And then and then it would happen,
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and they're like, "Okay, we don't understand what you're doing, but, let
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us know if you see something else."
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So I, I kept them informed, and we… Every place that I went, there
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was never anyone that got injured because I kept everybody safe.
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So that's part of, the entanglement.
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So time and space are irrelevant, … once you reach these levels of consciousness.
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Did they ever accuse you of being a spy because you knew things
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before you, before everyone else?
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No, because I was a spy.
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Worked for the CIA.
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You can't accuse- I can't be accused of being a spy.
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Love that.
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Oh my gosh, does anyone else?
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I've got Tom.
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So-
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Yeah, I love it.
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I love following great people.
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This is awesome.
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And thanks for putting this assembly together.
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I just wanna be brief and share that from my childhood experience
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that led to the story of The Matrix.
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First of all, The Matrix allowed me to experience a crucible of rejection, which
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was really a great development process.
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To be rejected by a world, to be looked at askance if you say you wrote
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something even though you didn't hold the copyright, really did allow me to
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develop in a different world sense.
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And one of the things I learned was hum- compassion and humility
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is really what's gonna advance our society to the next level.
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When you say quantum, I'm thinking about how we replace what we think
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we know with childlike wonderment.
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When we do that, we're gonna open the gateways for all of us to embrace.
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If you watch how children play together often, they embrace
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each other, they create together.
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That's what we need with our sciences and everything else, our schooling.
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We need to go open up to creating together in a friendly environment where we allow
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wonderment to take over instead of ego.
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Compassion, humility will drive us, and it'll be a joy in creating,
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a joy in striving together, a joy in advancing humanity, and that's
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what I wanna bring to the table.
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Beautiful.
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Wow.
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I just gotta say, that's what's happened with meeting Lisa in, and
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Barry in person, and then Honey over in Ireland, and then meeting Chris
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O'Connor at the Awakening Summit.
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Now he's p- it's just… you absolutely nailed it, Tom, and w- we're watching
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it unfold in real time 'cause that's how this is coming to be today.
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That's incredible.
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Wow.
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Oh.
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S-
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does anyone else have anything they wanna say about we are quantum?
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Yeah, go ahead, Dani.
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So I just wanna talk about the soul for a minute because we come in here
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for this big experience, and we're in here for an experience that's
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bigger than we've ever had before.
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And I know when I was little, I was like, "Oh my gosh, I'm here again.
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Can I please go?"
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But I knew I was here for s- a reason, and I did have a near-death experience
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and came back because I knew that I needed to stay for my parents.
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But I was like seven, turning eight.
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And when you're just focused on your soul and the lessons that you're learning
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here and all the things that you're here to create and do and experience,
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and you can see it from above instead of being miserable about things,
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then your whole life just opens up.
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And we're here to have that open up right now.
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So I'm just really excited about the time that we're in.
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And being quantum is… Everybody here is quantum.
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Everybody watching is quantum.
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We're all eternal, and- … just remembering that
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Yeah.
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Go ahead, Jen
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I, gee, you guys, I love this discussion.
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But I'm thinking, going to my mother who at 15 died on the opera- on
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the table, and told me afterwards she saw everything going on in
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the room, and the doctor coming in saying she was dead, blah blah blah.
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That's how I was brought up, so I brought my four daughters up that
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way, to know that they were intuitive.
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And quantum would be the word, but we didn't use that.
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And they have a godfather that was an incredible psychic healer,
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Alex Tanous, and he wrote a book, You and Your Psychic Child.
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So I try… What he wanted- what you are saying, he wanted every single
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person to know we all have it.
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It's easy, and we all have it.
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People got nervous about the title, but I know that it's within all
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of us, the quantum, the healing and that we're all healers.
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And so my life was involved with hospice 40 years, and and now
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Lifewave with Michael and Tracy Joe.
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But I just, the idea of laying on of hands, all that, that
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you here have all experienced.
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I know you're all healers.
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And I sit amongst you sometimes, and I'm thrilled.
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Anyway, I'm gonna stop.
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Tom, you brought us back to childhood, and I went right there.
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One, one other thing I'll say.
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I did drown when I was 15, and a being came and, to me and told me to pull my
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hand up, and I was saved out of that.
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And I've seen, at age two I saw Jesus.
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Through my life I've been able to relate to s- things outside of me.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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You know what's interesting, 'cause you've got all these people who've had near-death
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experiences here- … on the panel.
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And I just spoke to this woman, Kara Curry, who remembered everything.
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She came in remembering everything, being able to see through the veil.
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She's a fascinating woman, and she said, she refers to frequency and vibration as
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notes, like moving up the scale of music.
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I love that.
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And one of the things she said, 'cause she had four near-death experiences.
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Every time you have one of those, your soul frequency moves up an octave.
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Wow.
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It goes up a note.
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And that's why you see so many people who have had near-death experiences, their
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psychic abilities and what they bring in to this world is much more enhanced.
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I just thought that was fascinating.
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And I know, Chris, you've had many different lifetimes.
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A few.
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I don't know.
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A few that he remembers.
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A- for people don't know him, he's been part, he's been age, he's been taken
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at the age of two, age progressed, moved into several different bodies.
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And I'd like for you to talk about what it's like to be put into a new
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body, having your consciousness, having your consciousness aware,
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and what that experience was like.
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Honestly, it's if you went to sleep and woke up, the only difference
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is you could be 20 years younger.
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In my case, I was 20 years younger twice by doing that.
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But then it took a couple or three, four days for my consciousness, which
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is connected to the pineal gland, connected to the brain, and which is
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inter- interconnected to the nervous system- through PA's electric energy.
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And it takes a couple of days for the consciousness and soul to actually
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integrate into the full system.
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So you feel like you have the flu for three, four days, and then once
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you're over that, it's perfectly fine.
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But it doesn't feel like you were moved.
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If you have a pain in your body, then you wake up and there's no pain
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anymore, that would be the difference.
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But for the most part, it, you could be moved and you wouldn't really know it.
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You would just feel like you've had a few days of being really
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off, while the body integrates.
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But to look in the mirror and see yourself 20 years younger in a new body
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has got to be a shocking experience.
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But expected.
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Yeah.
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Good timing,
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Chris.
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Yes, you knew you were, Yeah … you knew you were having that happen.
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Yeah, it wasn't a total shock.
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Yeah.
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I'd be like, "Oh, yeah, that's what I'm supposed to look like."
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Yeah.
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Now one of the cool things about Barie that is different than
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a lot of the authors there's 36 people have contributed.
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One of the things why I wanted her story in this is the fact that I always believed
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that we had to be wounded and have some kind of an experience to overcome in order
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to step into what our gifts were, right?
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To help us remember.
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That was just always, y- the wounded healer, like someone overcomes adversity
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and then they step into their power.
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But Barie grew up, and I don't know if you wanna talk about that, was, like,
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literally grew up, like, where she is now.
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Literally in the woods- Oh, lovely … on a ski mountain.
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Just with horses and just out in nature.
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So I don't know if you wanna talk about that and what someone tried to do to you.
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Oh, okay.
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Sure.
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Yes, I did grow up in nature, and I'm very comfortable… Oh, did you hear the bird?
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You
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heard it.
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Yeah,
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you're still in
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nature.
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Did you
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guys hear that?
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You're still in nature.
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Anyway yes m- my family owned ski areas.
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My father built them, and so I had this incredible playground to be a wild child.
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And I didn't have all these rules because I had parents that weren't-
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By my side all the time hovering.
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I never actually knew where they were.
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I knew that we were all fine, but I lived in a valley, and it was very safe,
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and we all just did our own thing, and that's how I- I've gone through life.
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I've just done my own thing.
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And I never saw my parents work for anybody, so I decided,
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oh then that's how I do it.
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It's all the programming that we get.
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And to answer what you said, Lisa, about trauma or hardship, I'm not saying that
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there… I've had definitely had some sadness over relationships, but I just
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feel like I've been very fortunate, and I've always gone through the, through
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life just being very excited about all the possibilities and the visual language
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that I speak and the art that I see.
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I've seen hundreds of scenes since I've been sitting in this forest
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because my mind and my body and my eyes go there, all my senses.
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And I just spent the last three days doing watercolor workshop.
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I actually have paint all over my hands.
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And it fills my soul.
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And I have had some, a family member that tried to…
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When I was 18, I was going to school in New York City, School of Visual
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Arts, and I walked into the apartment, and my aunt my relative was there.
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And I was telling him what I was doing.
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I was 18.
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I was, the world's your oyster, right?
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And he goes good luck making it in photography, financially, et cetera."
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And I looked at him and I said, "Oh, really? Watch me, and don't
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ever do that to me again." And I basically turned on my heel.
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And it was just… I don't believe in criticism to, when somebody's
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very excited, and that all children and people should just fly the
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best that they can with- because everything is right there for us.
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It's quantum.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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And art does that.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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I have a question for everyone here.
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Was there a specific event or experience that you had that suddenly made you
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realize that the reality that we were in wasn't the true reality, like that, what-
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whatever we've been programmed to believe?
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Yeah, when I walked out Scott's Airstream and he said, "Joe, the
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world you think you're living in and the world you're living in are
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two different things." And I just
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So I'm, "What?
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What?" And I had to
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set- I second that.
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Yeah.
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It was pretty- And now
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look at you.
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I- with Scott, yeah, sometimes I have to digest what he said.
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This is, pr- pre-Truth Stream, and then start looking a little bit outside of it.
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And then finally what made us start Truth Stream as far as my take on it, I'm like,
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"He needs more people to talk to about this stuff 'cause I don't know anything
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about it." So I- it's been a crash course.
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It's been incredible.
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But yeah, having friends that help you look at things from different
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perspectives has been huge.
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And then I've met… it was cool 'cause I met Michael Jaco
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in 2021 down in at Shasta.
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And then just from doing the show and being having my life enriched
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by all these conversations, and then meeting all these folks, in person.
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Not everyone here yet, Tom, and Kerry, and Jen.
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Hopefully you guys soon as well.
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But it's just been, it's just been an amazing experience
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to, to have it keep unfolding.
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And now the people that I'm surrounded with, mainly from the show they're-
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that's who I'm looking forward to talk to about the subject matter.
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'Cause the people usually in person maybe except for yesterday up at
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the healing spa I went to, but I d- I can't have these conversations.
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So it's just been incredible to be enriched by these
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conversations and the people I've met through doing Truth Stream.
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Yeah.
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The key is to be open to it, right?
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Yeah.
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And to have the open mind, because there's so many people who just
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shut down when you hear this.
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And Tom, I'm curious for you because I know your story.
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You've had l- lived with the complete opposite of what, Barry's life.
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You started out with an incredible amount of abuse.
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And, and-
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it was- … and come to love … it was basically survival.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was all survival.
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But- … that's why I feel blessed that I can reach out to those that go
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through that, and that's why I wrote the Matrix story too, Mortals, was that
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it could make a world where people like that would fit in and feel good in.
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I think we- … become enriched, those of us that survive those kind
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of gauntlets and we find each other.
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And we can say, "I see you. Well done. You survived it," and the resiliency re-
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you know, that resiliency of a, as a child to- that we know a core in us is awakened.
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Our synapses are forming, and in us is that understanding that I will survive.
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I will make this world better.
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I will come through.
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And to have that at five years old and four years old is a jumpstart in life.
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And so I would want people to think, no, if you're abused,
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doesn't mean you'll be an abuser.
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If you're abused, it just gives you a new platform to launch from, and
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that platform can be high and mighty.
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So yeah.
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So what are human beings actually capable of that we've forgotten?
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Everything?
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Yeah.
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Go ahead, honey
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… yeah.
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I just think that we're capable of whatever we want,
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and we have to remember that.
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That's what we're doing right now.
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So we're moving into a time where we're remembering that sound, and thoughts
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are also sounds- creates light, which creates quantum mathematics or divine
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math, which then creates matter.
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So you have all of these things that are coming together, and if you
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can imagine it, then you can do it
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Very good.
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And, … for me, it's been progressive.
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When I look on the physical realm I was doing incredible stuff when I was
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at SEAL Team Six as far as shooting.
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I was able to shoot three different, silhouettes of a head three
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different ones in less than a second.
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So the reason why I was able to do this 'cause I started going into
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these realms of consciousness.
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I'd read about them.
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I'd, been through some classes and so forth.
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But really until I started to let go and go into these realms
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of consciousness that's when it really started to kick for me.
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And then I started a hand-to-hand program, and I was able to do
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incredible things with that.
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And then I started remote viewing.
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That took it to another level.
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And the remote viewing, opened the door to so many other things past lifetimes.
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I look at some of the historical figures throughout time.
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There was Ananda with Buddha.
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I remember being him, being with Buddha.
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I remember being Claudius Lysias with Jesus, and he was a Roman cen-
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tribune that saved the Apostle Paul, and, all these different things.
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So not just, these great masters that I was learning under, but sometimes
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I was some of those masters as well.
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And I think that all of us, in our own right, have become
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masters within our own realm.
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So that's … And that's what I would like to say to everyone out there, that
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every one of you that are listening can and are probably on some level
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your own master in your own realm, and you can advance that over time
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I totally agree.
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Chris, you have anything to add on that?
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From the standpoint of, someone who's had an extraordinary life of moving in
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and out of so many different lifetimes and being, having awareness and memory,
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and also seeing what potential is.
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So from where we are now and also connecting with these other higher,
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I don't know what, w- high- would you say higher level beings or higher
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dimensional beings, and- Higher density
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how they exist.
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Higher density.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What is their life like, and where do you see us going to actually reach that?
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That's a really long explanation I can't go into today, but- … as, Earth is
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moving from the third to fourth density right now and we call it 4D and we call
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it 5D and it's really the same thing.
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Fourth density is the fifth dimension.
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They have to interact.
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You have to have both to have physical presence.
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So it, calling it 4D and saying we want to go to 5D is really a b- huge disservice,
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and it was an, it's a negative attempt to confuse and separate people and confuse
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them, and they're not gonna continue serving or searching because they don't
23:37
understand what the letter D means.
23:39
So just understand fourth density is also the fifth dimension.
23:44
So having said that every time we step up to another vibrational level,
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which is the density level- … there are a great many lessons and a
23:53
great many changes that happen.
23:57
And the fourth density is really a remarkable density and it
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lasts for a few thousand years.
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People want to jump to 5D no, you don't… The beauty and the love is in four.
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And so we don't want to skip it.
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You can skip it if you'd like, but- … it, it's not recommended.
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But for the most part, what we do is is we go through and we search and we
24:20
understand through the lessons of love, all the facets of love, what love means,
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how to use love, how to focus love, that love is not just a, not just an emotion.
24:32
It is an actual energetic frequency, and that's what the universe was
24:37
built on, was the frequency of love.
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That turns into photons, like Honey was saying, turns into f- into light.
24:44
It turns into vibration.
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It turns into material, and it turns into you, and it turns into me.
24:49
We just have to connect to that, and that's what fourth density's about.
24:52
And it's also about communication, higher communication.
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It's about communication with your own food.
24:59
We were talking earlier Carrie was mentioning some stuff
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about, prayer and all that.
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And I'm all about that, I was raised fundamentalist Christian, and I had to
25:08
set everything down and then start picking it back up over the years as I began
25:12
to understand what they actually meant.
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But for the most part- Prayer blessing, as you said, is outside of time and space.
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So when you eat food, for example, you bless every aspect of the food.
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And not only that.
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Say, if you're eating a hamburger, you're gonna- that's several animals, right?
25:37
That's several cows.
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Yeah.
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But then how many people have partaken in that group of ground beef?
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Probably thousands.
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And you bless every single person retrospectively.
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And what you're doing is you're just sending that down the line.
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And talk about quantum, to me, that is like mega quantum.
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Wow.
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It's like you're sending love, appreciation, gratitude to the food
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that sustains us, and we're… The third density especially is a density
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of consumption, of self-consumption- … of which we're a part.
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It's just part of the journey that we take.
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Now we move out of that toward the fourth density into the fifth density,
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not dimension, fifth density and then we begin to understand how that works.
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So I'm not gonna continue going on because I could be here for an hour and a half.
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Yeah.
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That's it for now.
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Go ahead, Tom.
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You're muted.
26:37
Yeah.
26:38
I thought that was a great introduction to what I want to share real briefly,
26:41
is that you said dimension density.
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I say dimension.
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And what's interesting is that we are all on different pathways, and I
26:48
want those listening to realize that their pathways are very special, too.
26:52
When I wrote The Matrix Story, they told me in New York, when I pitched it
26:55
at Bonaventure, who said he claimed he discovered it he said, "This is brand new.
27:00
How did you come up with this?" And then when I wrote The Domestics, which
27:03
is green-lighted for off-Broadway right now at The Sheen, they said,
27:06
"How did you come up with this?"
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Because I created my own path and thought away from everybody else.
27:12
Each of us can think completely different, come up with your own
27:15
names, and name it your own way.
27:17
Yeah.
27:18
Have your children come up with their own names.
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Have your path.
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And with, you have 12 different pathways, say, going to the same
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point we're gonna reach, that's good.
27:26
Not one way.
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12 ways.
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Yeah.
27:28
100 ways, a million ways.
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That's what I'm saying.
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So not negating, I'm just saying what… With all these great minds right here and
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people listening, each of you are gonna create pathways, and if a couple of those
27:41
get us to the right spot faster, great.
27:43
If a couple of them take us along a journey that's very scenic,
27:45
like that wonderful environment, you're sitting in the woods there-
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very great.
27:49
I think that, each of us concentrate on our vision, our journey, and we'll come
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up with all kinds of unique things, and all those puzzle pieces create a quantum.
27:59
Wow.
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So well said.
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That's good.
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And one of the reasons why I had 36 voices was because everyone manifests
28:07
so differently, and there are people who are well-known and people who
28:11
you've never heard of, and I did that intentionally- because I wanted
28:14
everyone to understand that it's not just for people who are famous.
28:20
And people who are successful.
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It's for everyone.
28:24
And I was blessed to meet Dr. Joe Vitale, and he gave us a chapter,
28:28
gave a chapter in the book.
28:30
And but there's also a woman who is 80 years old who helped heal herself from ca-
28:36
third stage breast cancer with her mind.
28:40
She's all about positive mindset, and she's a jokester.
28:43
And every time I get on the phone with her, she's got a
28:45
really bad dad joke for me.
28:49
But she does that at the hospital.
28:50
She's a nurse, and she does that with… she yells at nurses and
28:54
doctors in the hospital if they don't have a good bedside manner.
28:58
And, Nice … she's really amazing that way.
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I have people who are animal communicators.
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Liz, who communicates with the plant kingdom.
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People who work with plant medicine to help people heal.
29:10
It's… There's so much diversity and variety.
29:14
And, that's why thank you, because it's really important to realize that
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people can tap into their own abilities.
29:22
Dr. Carrie Madej, you had your hand up
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
29:24
I look at it a little differently because I guess my experience is going back to
29:28
as a child, like not just me, but my two younger sisters, we would always
29:33
say, "Oh, they have snake eyes." We would always point out the same person.
29:38
And so now getting a little older in the years, I know those are reptilian eyes.
29:43
And so we know there are different beings out there, and we could agree on that.
29:48
So as at young age, I knew we were not all the same.
29:51
But I also realized that it's nine, I knew there were controllers and
29:55
controlled, and then I'm realized, I said, "Oh, no, I was born a slave.
30:00
This is a mistake.
30:01
I'm not supposed to be a slave.
30:02
We're not supposed to be slaves." And I didn't know what to do, but I
30:06
said when I get to be a big person, I'm gonna do something about this."
30:10
We're all big people now, right?
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We all can do something about it, which is looking at it in a
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different light, than depressed.
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Same kind of idea.
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So knowing that, okay, we've been oppressed, and to me, and enslaved, and
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this goes along for me with the Biblical writings, which I believe is true
30:28
historical document, and we now are waking up to that, and then we're realizing who
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we are, what we are, and whose we are.
30:37
So when we really embrace that and become the I am, the words we speak,
30:43
and to me, I can't do it without the Holy Spirit, then game over.
30:47
But we have to go through this in this training.
30:51
We're in a training period right now, boot camp, because we've got
30:55
to understand we were supposed to be the guardians and caretakers of this
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planet, this realm, dimensions realm.
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But it didn't happen, right?
31:05
But I believe in our lifetime we're gonna see something
31:08
amazing, and it thinks awesome.
31:15
Goes beyond our human comprehension.
31:17
Did I freeze on you?
31:20
Just a little bit, but I think we got the- We got it … image at the end.
31:23
Ah.
31:23
Yeah.
31:24
Sorry about that.
31:25
No, you know what?
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Yeah, I think you
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got the gist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
31:28
I so thank you for that.
31:30
And also your faith, and I know, Jen, you have deep faith as well.
31:34
Everyone has their own way of belief, whether it's through re-
31:39
religion or through Christ or who- the universe, whatever you call it.
31:45
But I see in Jen and Carrie especially both of you especially
31:50
really have a deep faith.
31:51
And one of the things that I see so much is the younger
31:56
generation all turning back to God.
31:58
There's a whole movement of these kids becoming conservative,
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much to their parents' chagrin.
32:09
And it's a beautiful thing.
32:11
And I'm curious if, Jen or Carrie, you wanna talk to that, or even
32:14
Honey, about this movement of going back to connection to source
32:21
I could answer quickly, 'cause I know there's better ones probably.
32:24
But I- you hit a good one, because I have 12 grandchildren, and I
32:28
have my oldest grandson is 21.
32:31
And from the time he was in school over in Orlando his team, it was a lacrosse
32:37
team, they were very conservative.
32:39
And he'd come and talk to me, about everything, because nobody else would, and
32:43
they were getting made fun of in school.
32:45
He is the one I send a lot of my deep- the stuff I send to you guys.
32:50
I do send some information out to people.
32:52
But he's the one I send it to, because he's a believer, very deep and private,
32:57
and his younger brother is too.
32:59
And then a lot of the other ones.
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Some of the others have not been raised that way.
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They've been raised to be whatever- … whatever.
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And my faith is something that I came to really six years ago.
33:11
I've always had it, but started praying differently because I didn't understand
33:16
what Carrie was explaining, Snake Eyes.
33:19
You g- many of I was like, "White light, everything's pretty and lovely," until
33:23
about six years ago when I started learning about what was happening to the
33:27
children in the world, and people like Tom and so many people I love deeply.
33:32
So I had to call a sister who's a nun and ask her what's this about?" And then
33:37
she taught me from Genesis about Baal, and it's been there for 4,000 years.
33:42
And then here we are praying for the light.
33:45
And so it, it was so profound for me.
33:48
And of course, that started my movement.
33:50
And then I met Michael and Tracy Joe and our whole work.
33:53
I'm thinking of you, Michael, and Tracy Joe as always talking
33:55
about staying in the love bubble.
33:57
What did I … I, as a therapist, which I am, and also in seminary, I
34:02
always taught you choose the house of love over the house of fear.
34:06
And if you don't, and that's in the chapter, but if you don't,
34:10
y- you're gonna lose yourself.
34:11
So Michael and Tracy Joe and I just went bing, because they believe the same thing.
34:17
And yet we are facing darkness, which I never saw, and I still
34:22
don't to this day see much of it.
34:24
But I want everybody to know that I'm learning at 78, 79 I'll be this year,
34:29
about darkness, and I got attacked this year from someone that was out
34:32
of the blue, and I had to learn to forgive and try to process through.
34:36
Because I think we, and people of the light, Carrie, look at
34:41
her, the- we get hit because we do carry- Yeah … that light.
34:45
And so what we have to do is not hate them or go into fear, but to
34:51
love them, and that's a biggie.
34:53
That's a biggie.
34:54
For the house of love then.
34:55
The Jaco love, house of love.
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Okay.
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That, that's a big one.
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And I have to say, when I learned to forgive, like really forgive, not, "I
35:06
forgive you," 'cause I've seen that.
35:10
Yeah.
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I've seen that one.
35:12
Like, how's that going for you?
35:14
No, the true forgiveness when you're at a place of neutrality and that
35:20
person no longer triggers you.
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Okay.
35:22
When you've truly released.
35:24
Has anyone want to talk about their experience with forgiveness and how that
35:29
helps with manifestation in their life?
35:32
Tom.
35:33
Yeah, I do.
35:34
I, 'cause it goes… I'm gonna throw in The Matrix again, I'm sorry, but
35:37
that actually- No … is my baby.
35:38
It is
35:38
your baby.
35:39
It's
35:39
my baby.
35:40
But here's something I wanna point out to the Christian Church and to Christians,
35:44
as I am one, but I don't broadcast it.
35:47
I whisper through art.
35:49
And what you're gonna find is the churches preach the atheist version of The Matrix.
35:55
When they find out I have the copyright, and I wrote it for the glory of God
35:59
and to put Jesus Christ into mainstream film, not one church has asked me
36:04
to speak about the original work, even though I have the copyright.
36:07
They talk about the atheist version done by those that actually bastardize it.
36:12
I think that's a call to what I'm trying to layer in, which is we need to, if
36:17
you're part of the Christian body, just not to isolate anybody out, we need to
36:21
stop judging and making that we know it.
36:25
Whenever I see the hint, I think in layers, of any kind of arrogance when
36:29
Christianity's talked about, you're out the door as far as having an influence.
36:33
You are now segmenting yourself away as somebody who is almost laughable.
36:38
What we need are those that have compassion, humility, pure heart,
36:41
and caring, and not judgment, that go forward and bring these works together
36:47
and Christian messages together.
36:48
Many of us are working on different ways, some covertly, some openly.
36:54
Some broadcast, some do it quietly.
36:57
But I wanna see a body of believers that do not cast judgment on each
37:02
other, and lift all things that are possible, and don't confine the
37:07
creativity under a dome of what you suspect is Christian and not Christian.
37:14
Artwork needs to flurry.
37:15
We don't need book burnings.
37:16
We need to have creativity thrive.
37:20
And I believe that Christ, when I wrote my work for Matrix, was encouraging
37:23
that, not to have it like, "Oh, I don't agree with this person, or I don't want
37:27
the, I don't agree with their art." Let's free up what's possible, let's
37:31
free up what's creative creatively.
37:34
Let's do that without judgment, without arrogance.
37:37
If you have ego in Christianity, you're not a Christian.
37:40
If you get rid of the ego and have compassion, you're my kind of person.
37:44
I wrote for you.
37:45
Sorry to be hardcore, but it's time to call it what it is.
37:48
Quantum is togetherness across diversity.
37:51
I celebrate not your religion, but your faith.
37:53
I celebrate your ability to have faith, that spark of faith.
37:56
Not your religion, 'cause I don't want us to divide anymore and Galileo to be in
37:59
trouble for talking about the universes.
38:01
So let's just go back to embracing each other.
38:04
Get rid of the arrogance.
38:05
I can spot it every time.
38:07
Let's free up and be actually loving to each other.
38:10
Anyway, sorry to preach.
38:12
No, this is- But I want you to know the matrix story was, yeah.
38:14
This is- I
38:15
concur.
38:16
Yeah.
38:17
Go ahead.
38:17
'Cause I wanna say the one theme that weaves through the entire
38:22
book of 36 stories is different versions of what you just talk about.
38:30
Because in order to be a manifester, in order to be in the quantum,
38:35
you have to be in that space.
38:37
It's just that's how you manifest.
38:40
Chris I'm curious what you have to say about that.
38:43
I absolutely agree with Tom.
38:45
There's no way to move forward until we can have conversations and
38:50
love one another no matter what.
38:53
Because otherwise we're victims, and otherwise we are supporting those that
39:01
want us separated so that we can be controlled that, none of us want that.
39:07
So why don't we find a way to get along, and I think that's the key because
39:11
ultimately for an entire race to evolve, spiritually, this is what it's all about.
39:17
We're here trying to evolve our s- eternal soul.
39:21
That's why we're here.
39:23
Yep.
39:23
Experiences, difficulties, beauty, it all helps evolve our soul through experience.
39:29
And and if we can't love someone else, even though their experience
39:35
might be quite different, if we can't do that, we're the problem.
39:40
And we just need to understand that's all.
39:42
It's just, it's a self-reflective thing.
39:44
I've spent many years looking really deeply inwardly, and what what am I
39:51
doing to support the good and the bad, the positive, the negative, the ser-
39:55
service to self, the service to others?
39:57
What am I doing to support either one?
39:59
And when you think in that way, then you begin to change your perspectives.
40:04
I think that's so beautiful.
40:05
I just wanna add one last thing.
40:06
Once I think I'm better than someone else, I'm less than all.
40:09
Yeah.
40:10
So I have a question on this.
40:12
And th- this goes… So in order to love everyone, that means the
40:17
people who aren't awake, the people who, trigger you in the worst way.
40:22
It's not just loving people who are just like us, right?
40:26
And so that is the challenge.
40:29
And that- Big one … is where we're headed, and that's where, Chris talks
40:34
about b- w- when you see these other races who have accomplished that and are
40:40
in this state, and they look at us, we look like barbarians to them, correct?
40:46
Yes.
40:47
N- I think we look like that to us too.
40:50
Us too.
40:51
It's crazy what humans do to each other.
40:54
It's come on.
40:55
Let's all-
40:55
and these other races can understand it … unite.
40:57
They understand the progression and evolution of our race, but they don't
41:02
think that we should really be working with a lot of other races right now
41:06
because they don't think that we've really earned it, because we're so- we're still
41:10
killing each other, and they're like- Why?
41:13
Why?
41:14
We're taking
41:18
our aggressions out on the wrong people, ourselves, when it should
41:19
be… It's a spiritual warfare.
41:21
Yeah.
41:21
And there is a place, time and place for righteous anger and to stand
41:24
our ground, and to go take the… I still, that's how I view that.
41:28
Might be more primitive than the rest of you, but take that spiritual battle and
41:33
know how to use the weapons of war, which is, our words, and know that we have the
41:38
truth and a true love, and you do it.
41:40
You lay down your life for another.
41:42
That's that agape love.
41:44
It's a power that comes from us, from our hearts, physically, but
41:48
even in etheric energy and the spirit realm, the soul realm.
41:53
So I, I still have that warrior mentality, but it might be on a little
41:57
more primitive level than you guys, but it's… That's how I look at it.
42:02
The goal- I don't see this, yeah … is for us to move beyond that mindset.
42:07
Yeah.
42:07
And we all have our different journey.
42:09
Yeah.
42:09
We all have different viewpoints, which is great.
42:12
Yeah.
42:12
I know I do- That's very true … spiritual warfare and it's, it works.
42:16
Because if we've been given power, authority, and dominion here in this
42:20
realm for me as a Christian through Savior, I know I don't need to be afraid
42:26
of anything out there that's not like me, not of love, not, that's hurting humanity.
42:32
So I use my weapons of warfare to get to the spiritual realm.
42:36
So that's not necessarily that I'm going kicking butt physically.
42:41
Don't get me wrong.
42:43
But spiritually, it's the same thing.
42:45
Yeah.
42:46
Yes, I know.
42:47
One of the things that I do personally for people on an individual level is
42:52
to free them from negative attachments.
42:57
And I remember and I've learned and I have 100% success rate
43:02
that it's only ever done in love.
43:04
It isn't done in judgment.
43:06
'Cause you walk into a room and you flip on a l- a dark room,
43:09
and you flip on a light switch, there's no darkness can be there.
43:14
But if you go in there- … and you scream in the dark and
43:16
you accuse, you're part of it.
43:20
Yeah.
43:20
So if you go in there through love- I don't see the flesh
43:22
as the problem … that's where you're correct.
43:23
It's the spirits that can work through us.
43:25
I see it that way.
43:26
Yeah.
43:27
So
43:27
it's addressing-
43:27
it's all connected … the
43:28
spiritual realm.
43:29
Yeah.
43:29
None of it's disconnected.
43:31
Yeah.
43:32
Honey, you were gonna say something?
43:34
Yeah.
43:35
So when you think about loving someone else no matter what
43:39
they're doing, remember that we are all cells in the body of God.
43:47
So everybody's a cell in the body of God.
43:51
So do you get really mad at another cell?
43:55
Or you just say, "You go do you. I'm not gonna participate." And I'm gonna go ahead
44:03
and do what I'm supposed to be doing.
44:06
And I think when we remember it that way, it's so much easier than
44:13
thinking we have to fight against.
44:15
'Cause a lot of times we're fighting against ourselves.
44:17
Because there's so many shadows that have been, parts of us, other lifetimes,
44:24
other experiences, and they come after us 'cause they want attention.
44:31
But when I look at things, I see things from the soul perspective.
44:37
So I don't care whether you're an NPC, a hologram, whether you're, whatever you
44:46
are, you're all a piece of consciousness.
44:49
Everybody's a piece of consciousness.
44:52
And you wouldn't be visible if you didn't have something.
44:56
And just to let them do what they're doing.
45:01
Now, if they're attacking you and you just say no- … and you cut it off, but you
45:09
don't have to hate them because of it.
45:12
I
45:12
agree.
45:12
'Cause they're a part of us.
45:14
And
45:15
they- Yeah, if somebody's being abused, you go protect that person, right?
45:18
Yeah.
45:18
It's just that's repair.
45:19
Yeah.
45:20
Yeah.
45:20
You just… 'cause we live-
45:20
that's the beauty-
45:21
… in a physical life,
45:22
… the beauty of art too is it allows us a mindset where we can change
45:25
the landscape, where we will then conceptualize that we are writing a
45:30
piece for all humanity, good and bad.
45:33
We're writing or we're sculpting for all humanity.
45:35
It's easier for us, an artist, to visualize that I'm doing
45:38
this as a service to humanity without judgment cast on anyone.
45:42
And so you take it from a personal level and you take it into a universal
45:47
level where it's no longer… It's not gonna be an affront to
45:50
me if people react a certain way.
45:52
All I'm doing is presenting something as a service, and they can take it or leave it.
45:57
I'm not gonna lose skin over it, but I'm gonna be able to feel good about
46:00
that development in myself where I was able to go through that journey
46:03
of creating something out of love.
46:06
Like you were saying, Chris.
46:07
Something out of love.
46:08
So we can do it through art.
46:10
So I have an advantage, other artists like myself, where we have a very
46:14
sweet path where we can enact the desire to see all humanity as worthy
46:21
of service, as valuable through art
46:25
And I think- Or
46:26
is it-
46:27
Yeah.
46:28
One of the things that I think is really important for people to understand is
46:31
that we're not here to spiritually bypass.
46:34
If you've been hurt, it's not about projecting your
46:37
hatred out on someone else.
46:39
You've, you feel it, and you need to process it and let it go.
46:44
Because when you don't address it, it stays in your
46:47
physical form, and it can help
46:50
It will help y- it will cause you to project that pain onto others, and
46:55
that's where violence and anger come in, when you have all this unresolved pain.
47:01
And when we talk about the love bubble and loving one another- Part
47:07
of the love is loving yourself and releasing yourself from that chain.
47:12
Yep.
47:13
And then once you do that, so the forgiveness is releasing yourself,
47:17
and then allowing yourself to move on.
47:19
Yes, honey?
47:20
So just really quick, like Carrie was saying, you're
47:25
allowed to say no to someone.
47:28
You're allowed to state your opinion.
47:30
You're allowed to be sovereign.
47:32
You're allowed to, basically be extremely strong within yourself.
47:38
Don't forget those things, but don't carry any hate along with
47:45
it, there's so much jealousy and so much drama coming up right now.
47:53
There's so many s- tech scams and weird things that are happening
47:58
in the collective at the moment, and it's part of those 3D programs
48:05
being ripped away- right now.
48:08
So do your best not to engage with them.
48:13
Don't let them hang on to you.
48:15
Just say, "I see what you're doing, and I'm not gonna do it with you."
48:19
Yeah.
48:20
And the media is also quantum.
48:22
There's a form of it that, that is giving us messages at a quantum level
48:28
that's, it's reaching our unconscious.
48:30
And so it's really important to be careful what you're watching.
48:33
And I know, as podcaster, and there are podcasters here, you have
48:37
to be aware of what's going on.
48:40
But when you flood yourself with anger and fear and all the negative emotions, it's
48:46
gonna impact the way you see the world, and lower your freq- your vibration.
48:51
I was gonna add something too, Lisa.
48:53
The quiet calm that certain individuals have speaks louder-
48:58
Yeah … than the voices we all have.
48:59
And I'm thinking of Michael right now.
49:01
I miss
49:01
him.
49:01
Like Michael and Tracy Joe.
49:03
Michael, I'd love to hear you talk, because you've been so quiet, and I see
49:06
this presence that's calm, focused, quiet.
49:10
Love doing your shows, because I just always see it like a rock.
49:13
So I'd love to know what your, some of your thoughts are.
49:15
Because I think that ability to be silent-
49:18
… when
49:19
discussions are going on and people are going on, is just real power.
49:23
That's something that speaks louder than words from anybody, so I'd love
49:26
to hear some more thoughts from Mike.
49:30
Thank you.
49:31
So I talked about how on the physical realm I was doing amazing things, but
49:37
the real amazing thing happened when I went into the quantum realm, where I was
49:41
using my thoughts to basically come into a s- an area that was full of violence,
49:48
and I would fill it with a love bubble.
49:49
And the love bubble would basically calm everything.
49:52
It would sh- all the violence would stop.
49:55
It was like magical.
49:56
Cool.
49:56
It was amazing.
49:57
Now how did I get there?
49:59
We're talking about how we're, getting rid of all the anger and stuff.
50:02
I had long… I think I had years of Archangel Michael coming in
50:07
and cutting cords all around me.
50:09
I'd think of something, and I was like, "Bring Archan- Angel Michael in and
50:12
cut the angry cords," and so forth.
50:14
Took a long time.
50:15
And then I learned to send love to everyone that I saw, and those that had
50:20
done me wrong, and I just kept doing that.
50:22
For years I did this.
50:24
And then eventually I got to the point where here I am in a combat zone
50:27
and I've talked about the Archangel Michael experience I had, because
50:30
I went against a very dark entity.
50:33
Going against it, like with, "I'm gonna fight it," that's anger.
50:36
That's, all the stuff that you can't be there and be in the love at the same time.
50:41
It chased me back to my body, and then later, the next night, I was blown up.
50:46
So I got to see what that anger could be like.
50:48
And I've talked about how I've had a lot of friends that had that
50:52
anger, and they're no longer with us because they died in combat.
50:55
So I died in combat 'cause I had that anger.
50:57
But Archangel Michael let me come back, 'cause I was like, "Oh, I could help
51:02
hu- humanity." And then I get this pres- had this presence feeling, looked up,
51:05
there's Archangel Michael, sends love into every cell in my body, and then from
51:09
that point on, I started radiating that love, and that love stopped the violence.
51:17
So the violence can't exist within that love vibrational field.
51:23
And you know what?
51:23
It, that, thank you for sharing that.
51:25
And I think about, Tom, you talk about art, and Bari.
51:28
One of the things that, that art does is crack open our hearts.
51:33
And I remember during COVID, Bari did something in the community
51:37
about this c- she called it The Awakening Love Project, if you wanna
51:42
talk about that, and how you- Sure
51:44
saw the world.
51:45
'Cause I'm telling you, I could stand next to her and take the same photo,
51:48
and they don't look anything alike.
51:50
And it because your art captures a piece of your soul, and
51:54
that's what you're projecting.
51:55
And I'll stand next to her and she's "Oh, look at those trees," and we'll both
51:58
take the photo, and I'm like, "How come yours looks so much better than mine?"
52:04
It's the same thing in when you teach or, like the watercolor class that
52:09
I was just talking to you all about.
52:10
Everybody looks at it differently, and that's what's so unique about each
52:15
one of us, is that we're each these beautiful selves and th- be- vessels
52:22
that create within our own creation.
52:26
We make… Art is really the true cur- currency, and I don't like to
52:31
use the word the money currency, but the real currency of our whole being.
52:36
And yeah, during during COVID, yeah I yeah, I was like, "What is going on?"
52:44
And everyone was doing these- All these portraits on, front porch portraits.
52:50
I don't know if you all had that, but the photographers were going
52:53
around and photographing everybody.
52:54
I'm gonna get in the sun while I talk.
52:56
Everyone was going and taking photos of everybody on their front porch with their
53:02
family, the photographer was, and they all had their masks on, the pe- the family.
53:06
And I'm like, "I am not doing that. There is no way." So I took my dog
53:12
and we went for walks, and I have my camera and my mountain bike and my dog,
53:18
and off we went, and I would just go for walks and take these photos of the
53:22
community, of everybody that was sad.
53:25
But tell you the truth, I was like, "Wow, what an eye-opener this is."
53:31
And plus I got to hang out with Lisa during that, and we became
53:36
good friends through this.
53:37
And anyway, so what I would do is I would go for walks, take photos of
53:42
everybody's dogs, and then I would go print them, I had big printers, and
53:47
then I would go and hang them around town because the town was barren.
53:51
And I would just make these galleries around town with the photos, the big
53:55
photos on the walls, and then t- I told everybody to just go and pick them up.
53:59
That was the way I gave back, and it was a real inward and journey, inward
54:03
and upward journey for me, and really woke me up to a lot of things that…
54:08
Because I didn't understand all that we are going through
54:12
now of what I understand.
54:14
But boy, yeah, I had studied a lot of this 15, 20 years, but I had
54:21
no idea it was so incredibly deep.
54:24
And so just keep doing art.
54:26
That's what I would recommend.
54:27
Yeah.
54:27
And yeah, give back to yourself and make sure you're, you
54:33
take good care of yourself.
54:34
Be quiet.
54:37
Yeah, that's something she does really well and I don't do well of at all.
54:42
I like being… I'm really gregarious and out there because of the way,
54:47
what I do for a living, but I'm also really like my quiet time.
54:51
It's very important to me and it really gives me the time to bring in all of my
54:55
creations and just really be present.
55:00
Yeah.
55:03
So Joe, you have any thoughts?
55:07
The first thought is that I think Chris and Tom remind me like
55:11
they're brothers or something- Oh … and I can see them working
55:13
on an amazing project at some point.
55:17
I really can.
55:18
I'm just watching them and how they carry themselves and the inner
55:21
child that they have in each of them, and they're just amazing guys.
55:24
Yeah.
55:25
That's the first thing I wanted to say.
55:26
But as a musician, though- Hey … and how your music- … is
55:30
such a huge part of who you are and how you express, just like art.
55:35
We've got writers here, we've got artists, we've got a musician here.
55:40
I- if you think about why has the, have the schools suppressed all of these
55:45
things, they take art and music and all this creativity out of the schools, how
55:50
important these things are to all of us.
55:55
Yeah.
55:56
That's a great point.
55:57
I found… It's interesting you say that 'cause my- I sa- I had a conversation
56:01
with my father before he passed, and he said, why didn't you tell me that
56:04
you were, into music and acting and all this stuff when you were younger?"
56:08
I'm like, "Dad, I didn't know."
56:10
I found it more in my… music I found more in 19, 20, and then
56:14
I didn't get into acting really.
56:16
I auditioned for a Sea Galley commercial and I was missing a tooth
56:20
as a child, so I missed that 'cause I was m- I didn't have a tooth.
56:23
They probably wanted a full smile.
56:25
But I just…
56:27
Y- I grew up in Catholic Jesuit edu- education, and it was very focused
56:33
on, those people that were gonna be doctors or lawyers or what have you,
56:36
and I never really fit into that.
56:38
And yeah.
56:39
And it's really been great to watch my nieces and nephews get involved
56:43
in music more over, over the years.
56:44
But yeah, I don't know, especially in the, in my upbringing, it just
56:49
didn't seem like something that if you can't really make a living at it,
56:53
then it didn't feel like it was all that supported, if that makes sense.
56:57
And it's interesting.
56:58
In the songs I've done… In fact from you doing your book, I'm now gonna put
57:02
a short film together of the five music videos that, that I've done over the
57:06
last five years and kinda narrate that.
57:08
But it's this movement that's really got me back into it in some ways,
57:13
'cause I just felt And, I've been… You feel this off and on, but when you,
57:17
the people you look up to are in their 20s or 30s and they're successful and
57:24
then, you're a decade or two past that, you kinda start going I don't really
57:28
know who my role models are anymore."
57:31
Or the people I've looked up to, they're part of the cabal.
57:34
And so it's I'm in a holding pattern in some ways.
57:36
And I'll just lay it out there for you guys.
57:38
Between the censorship, between Lewis Herms getting only 2,100 votes in
57:44
California and the health problems I've had with my producer it, that he's had.
57:50
I just feel like there's been so many obstacles lately that I just
57:55
need to, y- allow this a little bit more up to the divine timing,
57:58
because you can't force this stuff.
58:01
And so it, it's great that you actually brought that up, 'cause even now
58:04
I'm in this… I don't play a lot live, and that's the whole reason I
58:09
got into music in the first place.
58:10
And with AI coming out, and I'd love to hear Tom's take on this, with AI coming
58:16
out, yeah, there's certain things about it that I think are beneficial for people,
58:20
but when nearly every podcaster has an AI song with AI music video, it's just
58:27
it's a weird place to be in right now.
58:29
So that, that's where I'm at currently.
58:31
But I'm, I am gonna finish this song at some point this year, and it's about
58:34
the children, and I'm excited about it.
58:37
So that's where I'm at currently.
58:39
Just keep believing in what you do, Joe.
58:41
Just keep believing, because that's quantum.
58:44
You, it doesn't matter about all that.
58:46
Just do your, go with it.
58:49
Flow with it.
58:50
Follow your
58:50
heart.
58:50
You're so talented.
58:52
Yeah.
58:52
Yeah.
58:53
Also-
58:53
Follow your heart, and just-
58:54
Find the hero within yourself … don't listen to all that.
58:57
Yeah.
58:57
Y-
58:59
this is your greatest hero.
59:00
It's you.
59:02
You're the creator.
59:02
When I was 15, I went to a summer program at Rhode Island School of Design, which
59:07
is one of the top art schools in the country, if not the world, and h- towards
59:12
the end of it, the dean came in and sat me down in her office and said, "You're in.
59:18
When you apply, it's just a formality.
59:21
We want you as a student here." It was the first time, 'cause I had learning
59:24
disabilities, that I was like, "I'm good?
59:28
I'm good at something?" Someone saw something in me, because I didn't see it.
59:32
I was so broken as a child, I didn't see it.
59:37
And I allowed that part of me to be crushed, because after that,
59:43
my parents were so worried that I'd be a poor, starving artist.
59:47
Unlike Barry, who said, "Show me," "I'll show you," my parents were like, "We
59:53
don't wanna support you the rest of your life, and we don't want you to marry a
59:56
poor, starving artist and have to support both of you for the rest of your life."
1:00:03
So that was just not allowed.
1:00:06
And I didn't have that voice.
1:00:08
It wasn't until I had a breakdown later on in life.
1:00:11
So y- you don't necessarily have to know who you are.
1:00:15
I- if my 63-year-old self now could go back and talk to that
1:00:21
15-year-old and said, "You've written books, you've traveled the world,
1:00:26
you've done all of these things.
1:00:28
You raised two amazing children." I- if I could tell that little
1:00:31
girl of my accomplishments, I wouldn't have believed it.
1:00:35
I would have been just stunned.
1:00:37
And I think part of this is when you heal that little girl or little
1:00:42
boy inside of you and allow whatever comes out and you don't have to
1:00:48
become a world-famous musician.
1:00:50
You don't have to become a world-famous artist.
1:00:53
Joe, your music touches me in such ways.
1:00:57
I've cried listening to some of your songs, and your song Freedom
1:01:00
Now is such an amazing anthem for what we have been going through.
1:01:05
And there's an energy and a vibration that comes through your
1:01:09
music that touches the hearts- Yes
1:01:11
of people.
1:01:12
And it doesn't matter if it reaches the top 100 chart, to me.
1:01:18
'Cause the people that get influenced by your music get touched by your
1:01:22
music and you make them feel better
1:01:26
thank you.
1:01:26
Yeah, that, that is the goal, to feel something.
1:01:29
And yeah, you- you're right about that.
1:01:30
It's it's it's great.
1:01:32
It's inspiring.
1:01:32
'Cause sometimes y- we all gotta recharge the batteries and help each other with
1:01:36
that some- 'cause, so sometimes it is.
1:01:38
It, when you're alone it can be a gift and it can be isolating.
1:01:42
But I think I thrive, part of my personality is thriving in
1:01:47
community and working with people, and I think that's the part for me
1:01:50
that's been challenging at times.
1:01:51
'Cause I really do enjoy working with people and bouncing
1:01:54
ideas off, off of others.
1:01:57
So yeah.
1:01:58
No this is great food for tho- thought, so thank you.
1:02:00
Yeah.
1:02:01
I could have done the same thing with digital photography back in 1997 when I
1:02:06
start, started digital, where I was analog 25 years prior, you just gotta roll.
1:02:11
The way I see it, you have to roll with it and just follow your path and
1:02:16
just believe in what, who you are.
1:02:18
'Cause you're so fabulous.
1:02:21
Yes.
1:02:22
You are.
1:02:23
Yeah, go ahead, Jen.
1:02:25
What's coming to me through all… I just, jeez, I'm loving the stories,
1:02:28
and I'm thinking about each of us has had whatever happened in our childhood
1:02:34
that brought us to wherever we are.
1:02:36
And probably most of us have been rejected at one time or the other.
1:02:40
My energy was so crazy that people rejected me a lot, but I kept
1:02:44
coming to the top of the surface and using humor to get there.
1:02:47
But I was remembering, I was walking I was a protester and I was walking protesting
1:02:54
the Seabrook Nuclear Power Plant, okay?
1:02:56
But anyway, I was walking with this guy, Philip Kenny, M- Monsignor Philip
1:03:01
Kenny from in, I was in New Hampshire.
1:03:04
And I had my four children.
1:03:05
We'd already been protesting.
1:03:06
We'd climbed over fences.
1:03:08
It was crazy.
1:03:08
But we, they had a great life 'cause they got to learn all this stuff.
1:03:11
Anyway, I'm walking along and I'm telling him, "I'm at divinity school and I'm
1:03:14
doing this and that," and he stopped me.
1:03:17
This is Phil Kennedy.
1:03:18
And I'm not Catholic by the way, I'm Episcopalian.
1:03:21
So this is a monsignor.
1:03:23
He said, "Jennifer, I need to ask you something." I said, "What?"
1:03:27
And I thought, "Oh, God, what did I do?" 'Cause I was just on and on,
1:03:29
excited about the kids and seminary.
1:03:32
He stopped me and he said, "Did you know that enthusiasm is a grace from
1:03:36
God and you have it abundantly?"
1:03:40
Aw.
1:03:40
And I went… Honest, I went, "Oh, my God." I said, "Oh- You
1:03:44
do.
1:03:44
… it's my worst problem." I always thought it was my fault.
1:03:49
It didn't just ha- That changed me forever.
1:03:50
Of course, I went home and called Mother and talked to her.
1:03:52
But I use that in therapy with all these kids.
1:03:55
I was working with a lot of these kids until two years ago that would,
1:03:59
that were ADHD or whatever they were.
1:04:01
"Oh, bring them to me." Autistic?
1:04:03
"Okay, bring them to me." And I'd say the same thing to them because I'd say, "Are
1:04:07
you having mystical experiences?" And they'd say, "Yeah, I've been traveling
1:04:10
out of spa-" "Oh, good, we can talk.
1:04:13
I'm a believer." And so I was able to then tell them that story about the enthusiasm.
1:04:19
And I wanna say that each of you has people that have come to you,
1:04:23
I'm sure of it, that are angels.
1:04:25
And that guy was.
1:04:26
But that are angels that have awoken you up.
1:04:29
So actually I'm not worried at all.
1:04:31
I think the quantum is the people that are the angels that come out
1:04:34
of the woodwork and wake us up.
1:04:36
And boy, have I met a lot of them over the years, as some of
1:04:39
so I, that's what I have to say.
1:04:43
That's great.
1:04:43
Everyone here is an angel to me.
1:04:45
Thank you.
1:04:45
It's good.
1:04:45
Yeah.
1:04:45
Yeah.
1:04:45
I feel the same.
1:04:45
I, you
1:04:45
know-
1:04:46
Yeah … I wish I could have all 36 authors on, but it's very-
1:04:54
Ariel, I'll come fly with you over there
1:04:56
I know.
1:04:56
Please
1:04:58
do.
1:04:58
Come fly
1:04:58
with me.
1:04:59
I love it.
1:05:00
I wish I could have all 36 authors on at once, but, one of the things
1:05:04
that's coming up is we're doing a big author event for this book, We
1:05:09
Are Quantum, and it's on June 16th.
1:05:12
And if you go on the website under books you'll see We Are Quantum, and
1:05:17
so you click on the authors event.
1:05:19
We have 194 people signed up already.
1:05:22
Oh.
1:05:22
I had to upgrade my Zoom account.
1:05:27
Good.
1:05:28
I'm so excited.
1:05:29
So this is an opportunity to meet and have a Q&A with some of the authors.
1:05:34
It's gonna be like, we've got a, I've got over 20 of the authors showing up so far.
1:05:39
S- people still have to register.
1:05:41
Great.
1:05:41
And then for people who are overseas in Europe, my friend Renata, she lives
1:05:46
between Australia and the Czech Republic, and we're doing one at 6:00 AM Eastern
1:05:52
Time, which is 11 or 12 in Europe.
1:05:54
And I think Abby Wynn is in Ireland, and then I have a friend
1:05:59
Solveig, who's in the in the book.
1:06:00
She's in Sweden.
1:06:02
And my friend Wendy, who is gonna be flying out to Sweden that morning,
1:06:07
so she'll be on at 6:00 AM as well.
1:06:11
So if you're overseas, you can get into one of these.
1:06:14
So that's gonna be at, s- there's two that day, and I'm really excited because
1:06:19
my goal is, again, if there's one person here, you wr- read one person's story,
1:06:26
and that impacts you to really go deep.
1:06:29
And also on that platform, I've interviewed just about everyone.
1:06:33
There's one more person who I still get to get her on.
1:06:37
And I have Chris's video isn't up yet.
1:06:40
It's gotta be on the through my web designer.
1:06:42
I've sent her everything.
1:06:43
But there's a couple people who aren't f- fully up yet, but they will be.
1:06:47
You g- will be able to see them- All right … on my YouTube channel.
1:06:50
They're also posted there.
1:06:52
Dr. Northrup unfortunately couldn't make it tonight.
1:06:55
She she had a death in the family.
1:06:57
She wrote the forward and has been an amazing support to me.
1:07:00
She endorsed my first book in Every Belief Is a Lie, and
1:07:04
she wrote the f- the forward.
1:07:06
And I have quite an amazing video interview with her.
1:07:11
That'll be up hopefully early this week as well.
1:07:15
But really amazing people, very diverse group, and a lot of really cool stories.
1:07:21
And I was glad to get Kevin Hoyt in before he had to skedaddle.
1:07:27
But really amazing people here.
1:07:31
And so are you Definitely.
1:07:33
Thank you,
1:07:34
Lisa.
1:07:34
Yeah, this- Thank you for all you've done.
1:07:39
It's been a true labor of love, and, of course after writing, writing
1:07:43
my first book, I'm like, "Oh, a collaborative book. That'll be easy."
1:07:51
You did it.
1:07:52
But, yeah.
1:07:53
But, over a year later, it's been such a beautiful lesson for me and
1:07:57
working with the individual people and getting the stories in and seeing how
1:08:01
diverse… And the biggest challenge was really what order to put them in.
1:08:05
Because to weave a whole story of getting everyone's messages out so they made
1:08:10
sense, not just to throw stuff together.
1:08:13
So that's been challenging.
1:08:15
And I love m- my friends Joelle and Dana out of Montreal, they did
1:08:20
the web design and they've really done… and the book- the book cover.
1:08:25
They did a amazing job.
1:08:26
I'm so thrilled with how it t- turned out.
1:08:28
Great.
1:08:29
Yeah.
1:08:31
Yeah, what amazing collaboration with all those authors.
1:08:34
Wow.
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Yeah.
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A- absolutely.
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I- I finally- I've never seen anything like it
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… yeah, I finally had to stop and now and I keep going- … "Damn, I want that
1:08:42
person in and that person in." I'm like, "Am I gonna have to do a part two?"
1:08:46
Yeah, probably.
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Probably.
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You know what?
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And you know it might be everyone in the world, 'cause everyone is quantum.
1:08:54
Everyone has something special.
1:08:54
There's something to that.
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Yeah.
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You're reminding me of Chicken Soup for the Soul.
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You have to have a whole series.
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Yeah.
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That would be amazing.
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That would be amazing.
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Definitely.
1:09:04
Michael, thank you so much for having us all on.
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Thank you, Michael.
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I so appreciate this.
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Thank you.
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This is-
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Yeah, it was great.
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Yeah.
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Great audience.
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YouTube loved it, and yeah, we'll share it everywhere.
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We'll share it with you guys share it to all of your sites.
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Yeah.
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So it's gonna be amazing.
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Amazing information.
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Yeah.
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Amazing stories, and Holly, like you saw o- on Lisa's site where it
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says live video, each one of the authors, she's gonna put a couple
1:09:25
more on there she's talking about, but everyone has their own video.
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You can go in there.
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Jen was telling me how she was going "J- I'm gonna go through every
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one of them." It's like- … take a little bit, but yeah.
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She's "Chris's isn't up yet." I'm like, I know.
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They're taking the weekend off.
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They'll get it up, I promise." So I sent her… His is up on my…
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please go to my YouTube channel.
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I've been trying to grow that.
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Not all of the, them are… Some of them are private.
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You can get them through the website.
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But you can also… Chris is live.
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Chris's is live and so is Dr. Northrup's on my website.
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On my YouTube channel, Lisa Sjomoin.
1:10:00
Okay.
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So you'll be able to see those there.
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So your what's your YouTube?
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It's Lisa Schermerhorn Coaching.
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I think it's coaching, but Lisa Schermerhorn.
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Okay.
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If you figure out, spell my last name- How to spell it … you get there.
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That's why I changed my website to Lisa Mindset 'cause I couldn't
1:10:18
take spelling it anymore.
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Took me a long time to spell it right.
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Oh, my God.
1:10:25
It took me- Same here.
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It
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took…
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Even Lisa's
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still trying to
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figure
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out how to
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spell it.
1:10:31
I know.
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I know.
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When I got divorced, I had the opportunity to go back to my maiden name.
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I'm like, "I've been this name for 30 years. No one knows me as my other
1:10:39
name." I think I'm stuck with it.
1:10:44
I remember when we first started doing shows together, and you
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were like, "Schermerhorn."
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Schermerhorn.
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Don't forget the C. Yeah.
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S-C-H.
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And there's a railway, they're part of New York, has Schermerhorn… Go ahead, Lisa.
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Hoyt.
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Yeah.
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There's a, in Brooklyn, there's actually a subway station that's Schermerhorn Hoyt.
1:11:09
Oh.
1:11:09
The sign actually- Really?
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… shows up there.
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Yeah.
1:11:11
The, it's Schermerhorn is actually, yeah.
1:11:13
We didn't come from the wealthy family.
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They we're the p- poor dirt farmers in Upstate New York, but…
1:11:19
No.
1:11:19
You did.
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Anyway.
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You were way wealthier.
1:11:21
Yeah.
1:11:21
You were way wealthier.
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No.
1:11:22
In, in, in- … in my heart, yes.
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' Cause you were in the dirt.
1:11:26
Yes.
1:11:26
I was in the dirt.
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You were with the earth.
1:11:30
All right, everyone.
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That's fabulous.
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Yeah.
1:11:33
So thanks for everybody that joined us.
1:11:35
Thanks for all the authors here that great presentation.
1:11:38
Everybody gave some great insights, so thank you so much.
1:11:41
Thank you, Michael- Thank you … and Tracy.
1:11:42
Thank you, Michael.
1:11:42
Thank you, Lisa.
1:11:43
Thank
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you.
1:11:43
Yeah.
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Paul.
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Thank you, guys.
1:11:44
Thank
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you, Paul.
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Thank you.