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3-05-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold/Crazy fitness instructors, Keys to Nugs game/DJ Moore to Bills, Timely Tanking · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: of one Jefflagwall at ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Leggy, good morning, Good before I cook?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, are you going to cook up some takes
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  Speaker 4: for us?
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  Speaker 3: I just cook up the info right now?
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  Speaker 4: What's the info exiting Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of fast guys in the draft. I'll
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  Speaker 3: just leave it at that, like set records everywhere?
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  Speaker 5: Is that?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think this is? Is this just the
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  Speaker 4: g evolution genetics thing?
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  Speaker 5: Like you go?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's my thirty ninth combine. So I've
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  Speaker 3: seen the player thirty nine years ago, and I've seen
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  Speaker 3: the players now. They certainly you know, in the early days,
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  Speaker 3: nobody trained for the combine. Mike Mamula was really the
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  Speaker 3: first guy to show up after having trained running the
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  Speaker 3: forty doing the cone drills. He was the first guy
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  Speaker 3: to sort of crack the combine code and since then
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  Speaker 3: guys come more ready. But this was a fast group. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and the average and the averages were the fastest because inexplicably,
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  Speaker 3: the slower guys, the guys who really should have elected
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  Speaker 3: not to run, and the faster guys were like, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: we'll just run anywhere, and they did that.
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  Speaker 2: Just a quick follow up because I there's one guy
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  Speaker 2: that I was really interested to see if the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: would make make a run at and that's Kenyan Sadik
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  Speaker 2: out of Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: He runs a four. That's done now, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Good? You know, actually I would say, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I know he's he probably wakes up four out of
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  Speaker 3: ten days wishing he had never said the word joker here,
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  Speaker 3: but because we constantly ask him about it now. But
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  Speaker 3: the Vanderbilt tight end has the look of that player.
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  Speaker 3: He's a former quarterback, Eli Stowers, former quarterback, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and athletically almost every bit athletic, as as Sadiq and
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  Speaker 3: you know, another guy proven in a big conference SEC conference.
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  Speaker 3: He went against the best linebackers and safeties in the drafts.
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  Speaker 3: So there is that athletic tight end and probably in
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  Speaker 3: the range they could get him if that interests them.
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious, Jeffery, you come up with your top hundred
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  Speaker 5: every year. Does the results of the combine affect your
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  Speaker 5: order of business there? Do you make change if you
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  Speaker 5: watch a guy shine or perhaps fall flat on his face?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, Vic, it's more the medical information I hear about
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  Speaker 3: at the comp that moves people. The workout it you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's great on TV and it's a lot of interests.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are tons of people in the stadium
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  Speaker 3: now coming with the you know, get the tickets and
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  Speaker 3: watch the workouts, But the teams don't move the guys
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  Speaker 3: that much after the workouts. It's it's more of a confirmation,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And with with all the electronic tracking now,
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  Speaker 3: they have a better idea of how fast guys are
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  Speaker 3: before the combine. But when you see, you know, how
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  Speaker 3: a guy runs. You know, some guys look labored when
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  Speaker 3: they run. Some guys are smooth, and you know, that
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff they take note of. But as far
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  Speaker 3: as moving guys whole rounds or something after a combine workout,
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen very often, unless it's more of a
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  Speaker 3: football character. You didn't do the work before the combine.
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  Speaker 3: They may punish you for that.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Laglod with this ESPN dot Com.
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  Speaker 4: Job and with a career.
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  Speaker 2: All I've heard, not just now, but really all college
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  Speaker 2: football season is there's been Fernando Mendoza, and then a
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  Speaker 2: giant Gap and then everybody else. If you had to
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  Speaker 2: guess right now, because people always overvalue quarterbacks, how many
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  Speaker 2: get drafted the first round?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe two? You know, I think even this for me,
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  Speaker 3: the second one won't be a first rounder.
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  Speaker 4: But Simpson, uh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's I don't know yet where I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna put my second quarterback. Simpson is the guys whose
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  Speaker 3: name you hear the most. And he did throw at
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  Speaker 3: the combine, so he you know, that was good on
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  Speaker 3: his part. I think for some quarterback coaches, a healthy
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  Speaker 3: nuss Meyer is intriguing. Know, everybody knew he was hurt
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  Speaker 3: this past season, but he revealed that the combine he
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  Speaker 3: did it the second day of fall practice, and it
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  Speaker 3: hurt to throw the entire season, and that he just
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  Speaker 3: had it taken care of an abdominal injury he had
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  Speaker 3: taken care of just before the Senior Balls. So I
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  Speaker 3: think nuss Meyer at the Senior Bowl and the combine
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  Speaker 3: has people sort of going back and doing the work
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  Speaker 3: on him and watching the healthy games as it were,
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  Speaker 3: because you're not going to learn much watching an injured
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  Speaker 3: guy try to throw. So I think that's the guy
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  Speaker 3: people left the combine at quarterback trying to Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: gotta we got to get the information straight. We gotta
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  Speaker 3: get it. We got to get the grade right.
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  Speaker 5: Have you heard these talks, these whispers that the Jets
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  Speaker 5: through that tag on Breese Hall because the Broncos were
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  Speaker 5: knocking on the door.
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  Speaker 3: I think they think people were knocking on the door.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, I still have a hard
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  Speaker 3: time and even you know, I talked to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of PEO people with the Broncos at Indy. I have
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  Speaker 3: a hard time believing you're gonna pay top dollar at
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  Speaker 3: running back and then split the carries. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: until they convinced me they're going you know, running back
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  Speaker 3: A and running back B, then okay, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 3: bite for the big money contract at running back, but
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  Speaker 3: to go big for Breese Hall or Kenneth Walker or
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  Speaker 3: anybody else, and then say RJ. Harvey is a big
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  Speaker 3: part of the offense. You know, I think that's a
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  Speaker 3: tough one financially because you can spend that money on
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  Speaker 3: people who might touch the ball more receiver, tight end
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  Speaker 3: or you know, even you need starters at inside linebacker
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  Speaker 3: right now, or you have a big donut and your defense.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so back back to the running back, would it
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  Speaker 5: makes sense? Could they actually get somebody in the first
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  Speaker 5: or second round to fill that position? And who are
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  Speaker 5: the targets you might have in mind for the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: at running back?
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  Speaker 3: You know that a thirty the thirtieth pick is basically
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  Speaker 3: a second rounder. So when I look at like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: who would they put their h you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: beyond the first round, I think I think the Arkansas
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  Speaker 3: guy gets a long look. Mike Washington a bigger back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the fastest guys, that heavy
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  Speaker 3: to run at the combine.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't he like six to two or six three tall
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  Speaker 5: six six two?
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  Speaker 3: He's a big back and he would be a nice
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  Speaker 3: compliment that. The thing I liked about him is his
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  Speaker 3: game video said a lot about him before he even
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  Speaker 3: got to the combine. This isn't hey, that guy really
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  Speaker 3: worked out awesome at the combine. Let's hand him the ball.
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  Speaker 3: This guy was a good player in the SEC, and
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  Speaker 3: you know he has the game tape that backed up
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  Speaker 3: the workout. That's that's the thing I look for, ad
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  Speaker 3: But to me, he was the most athletic beyond Jeremiah Love,
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  Speaker 3: who the Broncos would love to have, because thirty two
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  Speaker 3: teams would love to have that guy, but unless they
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  Speaker 3: trade twenty nine picks up, they're not getting him. So
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  Speaker 3: I'd be looking at the bigger backs beyond that because
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  Speaker 3: you know, again you want you want to compliment. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want RJ. Harvey and then another guy like RJ. Harvey?
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  Speaker 4: Can I throw out a name?
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  Speaker 2: And this is going to be super nerdy and specific,
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  Speaker 2: but trying to be a good moral support for my
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  Speaker 2: wife who watches the Huskers every weekend. Emmett Johnson looked
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  Speaker 2: like an impressive back who could run between the tackles
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  Speaker 2: for a later round pick.
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  Speaker 4: Is he somebody that you think is all right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know? And I just finished watching him yesterday
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  Speaker 3: a bunch so again fits that mold. I think there
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  Speaker 3: are better athletes, Yeah, the position and who are more
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with sort of the Broncos way of doing the
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  Speaker 3: run game. Now, we don't know what that scheme going
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  Speaker 3: to look like, because that was the big thing. Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton was wandering down the hall, you know, day one
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  Speaker 3: of the offseason, you know, the day after they lose,
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  Speaker 3: talking to coaches about was how they're going to fix
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  Speaker 3: the run games. So but he actually had one of
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  Speaker 3: the best moments of the combine. And he walked in
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  Speaker 3: the media area and and got up on mistakenly got
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  Speaker 3: on Jeremiah Love's podium. They got podiums with the signs
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  Speaker 3: on the front, and he mistakenly miscounted, and he walked
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  Speaker 3: up and he started talking and people started asking him questions.
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  Speaker 3: Who didn't know that was Emmit Johnson And somebody from
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  Speaker 3: the league said, hey, that's podium four. You're on podium three.
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  Speaker 3: And then he looked out and said, y'all thought I
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  Speaker 3: was Jeremiah and then he walked off. It was hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was really funny.
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  Speaker 5: That's great, all right, So running back, I I agree
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  Speaker 5: with you, you got to get a different type of back.
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  Speaker 5: Then there's this tight end situation Evan Ingram is considered
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  Speaker 5: a tight end, but he looks like a receiver. Is
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  Speaker 5: it the position player or is it the way they
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  Speaker 5: use the position? What's the problem in Denver? And could
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  Speaker 5: Davis Web utilize Evan Ingram differently next year?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know that's the issue is you got Ingram
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  Speaker 3: obviously can get open and get the ball. I mean
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  Speaker 3: a guy had fifty catches or whatever, so he can
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  Speaker 3: get the ball. Their issue is they had three touchdowns
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  Speaker 3: from the entire position group and not one of them,
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  Speaker 3: not one averaged more than nine point two yards a catch.
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  Speaker 3: That's the issue. You know, it's not getting them the ball,
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  Speaker 3: it's what happens after. So you know, the two way
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  Speaker 3: tight ends, the bigger guys, they're harder to find in
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  Speaker 3: the draft. Like Kate Otten would be a guy in
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  Speaker 3: free agency I think fits that more two way. A
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  Speaker 3: little bigger can play in line if they want him to.
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  Speaker 3: And Tampa ya, he's the Tampa guy and he catches
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  Speaker 3: the ball. It gets open on crossers, shallow crossers, you know,
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  Speaker 3: seam routes, all of the things that are in Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton's offense for the tight end. Uh So I would
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  Speaker 3: look for a bigger guy in free agency and then
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  Speaker 3: maybe in the draft one of the athletic movers, and
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  Speaker 3: that's that's sort of the combo you want. And then
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  Speaker 3: if you have those two players and Ingram, I think
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  Speaker 3: you're suddenly very sturdy at tight end.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think this is a possibility legging? Because I
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  Speaker 2: know that there's one rule in the Sean Payton offense,
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  Speaker 2: and I know Davis Webb's taking over, but he's still
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  Speaker 2: gonna have an influence. You have to be six foot
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  Speaker 2: three to be a wide receiver in this offense because
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  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims can't get on the field despite production. So
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  Speaker 2: I know somebody who's available who's six foot three and
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  Speaker 2: averages twenty two yards per catch, and that's Alec Pierce.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that that's a possibility they'd be sniffing
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  Speaker 2: around him this free agency?
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  Speaker 3: Certainly should, but you know that's that's the big money.
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  Speaker 3: You know he's gonna get big money and that they
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos obviously have big money. But what is it
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  Speaker 3: what's the kind of receiver they need?
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  Speaker 2: Just sorry to jump in, what is it with him?
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  Speaker 2: In Look, he has a thousand yard season last year,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not in eighty catch eleven yard guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: a forty five catch thousand yard guy. Why doesn't he
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  Speaker 2: get the ball more often? If he's so effective when
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  Speaker 2: he gets it?
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  Speaker 3: You know, probably just the guys who run the extended
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  Speaker 3: routes takes longer for them to free So depends on
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  Speaker 3: how long the quarterback's got to to find it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: or before he hits the top of the rout his
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  Speaker 3: top of the route. The other three guys hit their
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  Speaker 3: top of the route five steps ago. So that's that's
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  Speaker 3: some of it too. And you know, before he got hurt,
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones was getting hammered, you know, by password. So
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  Speaker 3: some of it is just a factor of that, and
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  Speaker 3: some of it is you know, when guys run intermediate
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  Speaker 3: deep a lot, you're not gonna have the volume, but
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  Speaker 3: that the other guys are.
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  Speaker 5: How much of a player will the Broncos be on
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  Speaker 5: the first couple of days of free agency.
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  Speaker 3: I think they have very specific guys they've targeted vic so,
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  Speaker 3: like I think they're very active. This regime is very
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  Speaker 3: active about getting those players as quickly as I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they signed Ben Powers and mcglinchy like two seconds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: after the green light went on you know, so that
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  Speaker 3: they'll be active in that three day wind up, the
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  Speaker 3: so called tampering period where you can where you can
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  Speaker 3: start framing out deals. Yeah, well you can just frame
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  Speaker 3: deals out, nobody can sign them, and you can't give
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  Speaker 3: guys a physical to make sure you're right before free
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  Speaker 3: agency opens. So but they'll be framing.
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  Speaker 5: I just can't touch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can even say i'll see you tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: you know type of thing, but you just can't sign
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  Speaker 3: any paperwork.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff lagwealdt ESPN dot com joins us every single Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Just last couple of things here. When it comes to
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  Speaker 2: what they're looking for in the offseason, we know it's
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  Speaker 2: the the skill position talent. Everybody wants topgrade. But if
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  Speaker 2: they keep their pick at number thirty overall, what odds
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  Speaker 2: do you give that that's going to be a defensive player,
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  Speaker 2: Because Sean Payton, I think it has only taken a
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  Speaker 2: couple skill position guys in his career in the first round.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a strength of the board, you know. I
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  Speaker 3: try to warn people just because you want a receiver
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you should take one and leave twenty eight
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  Speaker 3: better graded players on the board. I just don't think
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  Speaker 3: that's how teams operate or should operate. So the strength
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  Speaker 3: of the board is going to be a defensive player,
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  Speaker 3: because that's the first three rounds of the draft are
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  Speaker 3: pretty heavy defense in my mind. I mean, there could
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  Speaker 3: be more safeties going the first round than running backs.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean that just tells you what it looks like.
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  Speaker 3: I think inside linebacker. Given the number of people they
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  Speaker 3: talked to at the combine formally, I mean every again,
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  Speaker 3: every team talks to every player at the combine. So
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  Speaker 3: all the nine and sixty three reporters who keep asking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every player, did you talk to the Bengals
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  Speaker 3: did you talk to Yeah, they talked to everybody. That's
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  Speaker 3: why it's the combine. But I think inside linebacks, that
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  Speaker 3: would be a grade that fits that spot. If the
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  Speaker 3: Vander you know, the Vandy tight ends there, I'd sure
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  Speaker 3: take a long look at that. I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: he will be, but if he was, I think that
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  Speaker 3: would be a quality pick too. And you know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are mocking them for a safety, and
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  Speaker 3: there's a ton of talent there, and that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's a special teams player, and you know, it's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things you can do with with a big
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  Speaker 3: time safety.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty seconds here.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you know for quarterbacks, appearance, how you
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  Speaker 2: carry yourself was all something that factors in and matters.
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  Speaker 2: If you're an offensive lineman and you have a mullet
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  Speaker 2: with bright red hair and a mustache like Jennings Dunker has,
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  Speaker 2: do you think looking like this as an offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: doesn't improve your draft stock? Because it feels like Quinn
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  Speaker 2: minors it really helped them.
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  Speaker 3: I think you move about ten slots and you have
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  Speaker 3: the lush, the lush main like that. I mean, come on, Plus,
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  Speaker 3: he's a big ten lineman. There's nothing better.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a mullet.
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  Speaker 3: You got a mullet guy from the big ten, working dude.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's all you need.
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  Speaker 2: You If you tell me this guy played on the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line for the Iowa guys like I'm.
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  Speaker 3: In, I will say that's half the guys I knew
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  Speaker 3: in high school.
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  Speaker 6: Right there?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Leggy, you're the best. Thanks for the info.
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  Speaker 2: top five Richards.
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  Speaker 7: But it's always a fantasy draft, so it has to
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: be a Richard draft.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Andy, Richard Petty, Richard Simmons.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Dude, I actually a lot of people did this. Did
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you ever listen? There's this podcast on what happened to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Richard Simmons.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: No, I did not listen to that podcast.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, listen.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I did not listen to the What Happened to Richard
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Simmons podcast? But it's it's vic.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: There's this whole conspiracy that he's he was he died
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: or something like that, or was murdered and people are
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: covering up because nobody's seen him in years. There's been
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: no public appearances of Richard Simmons. So, yeah, I got
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: sucked into a Richard Simmons podcast.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: What do you want me to do?
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I guarantee textures.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm talking about, just say the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: name of that podcast on the text line.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: You will be shocked. It was a huge thing years ago.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Huge anyway, whatever happened to the era of infomercial workout
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: video guy.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Dude, that was my era for those yeah, up in
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the eighties and nineties and what ESPN was before I
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: did what it is today. ESPN had games, had an
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: occasional sports center, but the mornings on ESPN were spent
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: watching guys and gals. Yes, do that for three four hours,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: that's all they did. There was this one dude, Oh God,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: help me out. Olds Fellow Olds gathered together fellow olds.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Who was the old He was like a Middle Eastern
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: guy with a thick accent, and he carried the torch
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: for the morning workouts. And I can't remember his name,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: and dude, I would I wouldn't even work out. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: would just watch this guy because I loved his accent.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: He was just so good at it, so good at instructing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: He was like a drill sergeant.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: And let me see, as soon as you come up with.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: The name, somebody one of my fellow olds will come
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: up with it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Elod Jankloid that's him, il Odd, that's him.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Ilod was dude.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, he's wearing like a mess shirt and
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a speedo.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Ilde was the man you did not mess around with
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: a lot when when a load came on the television,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: no matter what you're watching, you're paying attention.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: The last one that I remember was probably Sean t.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He was the last of a dying breed, right, the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: P ninety X guy. Yes, that one was big for
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a minute, well was insanity though he wasn't insanity. Yeah
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: he wasn't P ninety x.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: You're exactly right, because I've tried both of the both
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: of those workouts in sanity's a little step above P
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: ninety X. P ninety X is that guy to have
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: you tried that?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: By the way, No, I can't do the workout video thing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: That's hard, dude.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Vic, it's like when David Doggins is
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: yelling at people. I'm like, I don't need you to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: scream at me. I'm just trying to get a swing.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Give me just one P ninety x ab ripper X workout.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure they're intense as hell. Like I'm not.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's not effective.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Dude.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: My mom, way back when I was younger, she she
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: fell for this one. Whatever you put the little slip
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: over your shoes, Vic, can you do this move right here?
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Oh? God?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Like the speed skater thing whatever that is?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: David on the text line, Man, you are my spirit animal.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Two words. Kana tom Keana was the other one. After Glad.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Kana came on.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Hold on and.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Kana would be on the beach in Hawaii somewhere. Yes, yeah, Kana.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: Uh huh.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: That's what ESPN was. Whoa And let me tell you something.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: The innocence of those days at ESPN, that's when I
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: think the network was at its finest.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I don't have what's the bike called with the video
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: peloton Peloton. I don't have a peloton, but I've seen
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: videos of one of those peloton instructors.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I'm in love with her. She stole my heart.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: It's her yelling at get somebody out of the chat,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: get them banned. That whatever her name is, stole my heart.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And then the people kept putting videos out of her
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: yelling at people, and I was like, you know what,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want David Goggins yelling at me.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: But I don't know who she is. I'll get on
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: the peloton right now.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: But you have to understand that's all we had back then.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: That's the only source of today. If you want to
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: work out, just go to Instagram or TikTok or hey,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: give me a tricep workout and you'll get a thousand
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: different workouts. Back then, all we had was Galad.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Hey on, hang on, somebody says Denise Austin, is that
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: her name?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: She was another one? Oh yeah yeah, but she wasn't. No.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I just saw a video VIC of bodybuilders from the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: What's it is it, mister Olympia? Is that the bodybuilder
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a thing? From nineteen fifty seven. I swear to god,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Vic the footage he's me going like this, guys who
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: look just like me, just standing like this doing this.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I could have won.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: This is why I'm telling you take me back to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight. I think about that all the time,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: MLB and dude, Like when I'm watching.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: It, when I'm watching eighteen eighty three and I'm what,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: like the Oregon Trail days, Civil War days, Like the
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: guys go work out? What'd you do for a workout?
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Like would you show up and you gotta feed the
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: family and say I gotta get a quick run in?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: What what would you do? Know? I don't know what
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: that didn't exist?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I'm gonna meet the fellows with playing in dunkup.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: What there's no such thing?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Right you just you're talking about to get like a workout?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a real work Those are no no, but Vic,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: those guys are country strong. Those are throwing hay bales
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: up and stuff like that. That's what they're doing. They're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: tip there, they're picking up cows.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Oh what about the city guys that lived back in
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the our forefathers, the ben Franklin's I mean, did they
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: do workouts?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, dude.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I watched that video and I saw eight Brett Kanes
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: walk on that stage just flexing, and then I think
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: of Ronnie Coleman.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, can't you imagine if.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: If those guys sat next to Aaron Donner would be like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: this isn't a human.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna size up, buddy, look at my triceps.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: See imagine all of those Brett Knes walking on stage,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and then Miles Garrett just appears out of nowhere, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it's like, what in the world.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: That's why, dude, I'm telling you the genetics has gotten
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: so out of hand today. All you have to do
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: is watch the NF Felt combine. Oh dude, every time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry fake, that's this is Kendall Toole. This is my girl.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: This is who I fall in love with.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Kay I don't know who this one is.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I need to go buy a Peloton. That's what I
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: gotta go do, dude.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: If you want to, you know, the fellow Olds throw
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: up Keana, Keana, Yeah? Do it? Do it for Vic? Yeah?
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: She st Keanu started a revolution. What were those little
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: weird socks they wore back? Those little fuzzy out to
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: put them outside the ankle leg warmers.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know what, everybody would do something
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: so noble with the time machine.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I would just walk on mister Olympia's stage.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: And Ronald said, Ben Franklin invented the dumb bells and
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: work out with them.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Like, can you see Ben Franklin? What is this Ben?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: It's the squad wrack? Yeah, how does it work? Well,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: let me show you who's this here? Who's this one?
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: That's Tom Keana Tom dominated espn that she's gorgeous?
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Vict Do you want to get ripped at any cost?
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: That's what it says.
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: See, we like to think we're all, you know, sophisticated
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: members of society.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: We're just bonobo's. We're just we're just monkeys looking at
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: pictures of.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Oh look at the headline at the top, the exposed
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: truth about steroids.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: What year was that?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Can I say something on the Oh?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, uh so a few things some business we need
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: to get to. Sorry, I was distracted by beautiful nineteen
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: eighties aerobics women, I suppose.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: But let's do this, victim.
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  Speaker 2: Look they're in the thing, this big stretch here tonight,
• 27:01
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  Speaker 4: Right here out to dude Sports Radio ninety to five.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Well, who knows what tricks the Lakers have up their
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: sleeve for Nikola Jokicic tonight? Right? You expect something different.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: You expect some you know, double team with a small
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: and a big and sandwich joker and all that, or
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: they playing straight up who knows whatever it's going to be.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: The Nuggets have to be rally they have to rally
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: around him, and they have to get something from their
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: role players tonight. You can't expect Jamal Murray to pump
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: in forty five to blow you out. So the role
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: players have to come through tonight. And frankly, I was
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: hoping that they'd have Peyton Watson and or Aaron Gordon
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: and or Spencer Jones available, but it doesn't look like
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: those guys are ready yet, so you're gonna have to
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: make do with what you had in Utah. This begins
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: a seven game stretch that is absolutely brutal, brutal, but
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: this is it. This is what you wanted. This is
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: you got home games in the month of March. You
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: lose tonight and you drop to the sixth seed. The
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: only way to prevent that is by not losing tonight.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Get what you can out of your role players. That's
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: how you'll win this game. It can't be just Joker
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: and Jamal. That's how you win this game. And if
• 28:10
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• 28:14
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• 28:33
  Speaker 5: This game is.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Whether you're gonna be in sixth place in the Western
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Conference or not. With a loss tonight, you drop to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that and you keep losing ground in this battle.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: To try and get a home playoff game in a
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: home series.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: The situation for the Nuggets, I hate to paint that's
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: kind of picture, but it speaks for toff. You have
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: seven games against winning teams, seven games against playoff teams,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: so it's you're swimming upstream now. You're trying to survive.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Every game matters so much, every win matters so much.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: You have two back to backs, including tonight and tomorrow night.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, a game and a half separates
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: somebody from being in third place or sixth place right now.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: And remember how we refer to that Utah game as
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: style points type of game. Yeah, there are no style
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: points in these seven games.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: You win by a bucket. You win by a point
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: each game.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: You win sixty three to sixty two. Ount know exactly
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: like whatever it takes.
• 29:31
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• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Do you think somebody like AG plays tomorrow?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I'm hoping, I hope. I don't know for sure. AG
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: was working out yesterday a practice. Did not see Peyton Watson.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: So you know, how do you deal with this, these
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: soft tissue injuries? How do you How many minutes do
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: you give them? How hard do you go? Because they're
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: gonna hit the ground running, not walking running? You're playing
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: really great competition here.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm not a team doctor, I'm not a physical therapist.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: But does the.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Taxing when you first return on an injury like that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: actually matter?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Or is it healthy? You know what I mean?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Like, it's either your healthy or it isn't. Isn't it
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You're it's good or it's not.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. You have to at some point
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: you just have to say, Okay, we're going.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. You know you can't.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: It's hard to be cautious playing a game that's heavily
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: contested against this this time of competition. It's not an
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: exhibition game.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think about it this way, Vic, like Aaron
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Gordon had he had June two October where his hamstring
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: was resting, and then it still blew out. So I mean,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know how much more time is
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: gonna help stuff like this.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Do you realize that if the Nuggets win tonight, it
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: will be the first time since January that they've won
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: consecutive games?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Good, Lord, makes sense. I mean, that's what we've been watching.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It's why we're so nervous right now. It's that it's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: been more than a month, nearly a month and a half. Yeah,
• 31:35
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• 31:53
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• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the NFL. I think we've been waiting for trades all day.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It doesn't come in hockey, it comes in the NFL.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And the Chicago Bears are working to finalize the deal
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: that would send DJ Moore to the Bills. Oh, Dj
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Moore is a good receiver man.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: More five power for Josh Allen.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Why would Chicago do that?
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: There's reports that he and Caleb Williams didn't see I'd.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's see, it's a mid round pick compensation.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: So did the Broncos go.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Get Dj Moore?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: He had some big catches though, Man.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: If I'm saying that this is a mid round pick
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: compensation for a wide receiver that is pretty.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Dynamic, what's his what's his salary?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: He's making it?
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I know it's at least decent, but what does that matter?
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: You need player? Uh?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: He signed a four year.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Just signed it last year, a four year, one hundred
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and ten million dollar extensions, So twenty eight and a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: half a year.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: So he would be the highest paid Bronco player.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, by a lot.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, But he also would probably be their best wide
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: receiver by a lot that too. So that's some breaking
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: news out of the NFL. Again, the the compensations not
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: totally detailed yet, but mid round compensation is what was said.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: You know, as frustrating as the Broncos season was for
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: as to end the way it did, imagine being a
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: you know, the Bills. How many different times have they
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: knocked on the door, how many different weapons, how many
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: different things, how many different variations they got a generational quarterback.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: They're officially in that, I would say Vic it was
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: remember the year before the Avs won the Stanley Cup
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: where they were there always felt like they had a shot,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: had one of the best players in the world, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: it ended with McKinnon saying I haven't won believe anything.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And then next year they won.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: There was a fleeting feeling that's like, is this ever
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: actually gonna happen with all the talent on this team?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And thankfully they broke through and they got it. But
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: that's got to be where Buffalo's at right now.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Just think about keep adding talent.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Think about last year though. Could you find a situation
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: more Taylor made for the Bills to get to the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl than not having to go through Lamar Jackson
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes or anybody like that.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: They had to get through Bo Nixon Drake may who
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: good quarterbacks in their own right, but they ain't Mahomes.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: And they had the game.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was it? Was it five turnovers from Josh Allen?
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: They had the game? Yeah, then they didn't yep, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: then McMillan stole it exactly right. Hey, want to add this,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Steve sentence this earlier. Right now, do you know that
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: the the ten worst teams in the NBA, the bottom ten,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: are currently on a combined losing streak of forty four
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: straight games. Right? What I mean by that Brooklyn's last
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: nine in a row, Indiana's lost seven in a row,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Utah seven in a row, on and on. The ten
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: worst teams are all losing combined losing streak of forty
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: four games, which tells you everything you need to know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: The race is on to lose, to lose as much
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: as you can, which is where this is. I want
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: to pinpoint this is why tanking is so volatile and
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: so inconsistent, and it hurts certain teams because I could
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: look at every one of these teams and say to
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: you back in, it's all about the schedule. If you
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: played Dallas or Brooklyn or Washington or Indiana or Utah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: if you had several games against those teams in November
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: and December, they weren't trying to tank in November and December.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Some of them weren't. They were trying to win, correct,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: So they put forth a better product earlier in the season,
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: correct yeap thereby a tougher opponent. But when the season
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: wears down, they give up. So it is so much
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: more advantageous to play these teams in February March than
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: it is in and therein. So tanking not only affects
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: a team that is tanking, it affects the opposition.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Well, let me just say this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Can I provide another how to fix tanking sort of proposal?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Would you mind if I told you this?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: The lottery is now going to be shrunk to the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: worst four teams in the league. That's who gets your shot.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody else after that just slots in where they slot in.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And you need something extra here. I like that, Like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you have to have a way to incentivize teams to
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: not lose. So maybe you say, if you finish, would
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: that be.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Fifth through how many teams getting the lottery? VIC help
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: me through fifteen?
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: For sixteen, there's eight and eight in the playoffs, there's
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: sixteen in the playoffs, fourth fourteen.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: To fourteen, So if you finish five through fourteen, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: have to throw them a bone somehow for not being
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: in the lottery. But if you shrank that to like, hey,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: only the worst four teams are gonna have a shot
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: at the first overall pick.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe that would help. Like why is why is Milwaukee
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: out here?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They're the the what twentieth team in the league as
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: far as record?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: What are they trying to do? You aren't going to
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: get the number one pick. You shouldn't be able to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: do an.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what they're trying to do. They're trying
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to do what Dallas did last year. That Dallas had
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: what was there?
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: What was there?
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Six percent? What was it? Was some ridiculous three percent? Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: and they got the number one pick.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. You can't have that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: That can't be a thing because Dallas wasn't trying to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: win either. After that, I think if you limit that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: to like a handful like four teams, the worst four
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: have a shot at number one. Everybody else after that,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you are where you are and somehow throw them a bone, like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you do. Maybe they get an
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: extra five million in cap space or something like you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: gotta do something for them, But it's just that's not
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: gonna work.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: How about this, vic.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Bottom four choose and then every team after that gets
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: uh anywhere from five to fourteen extra million dollars to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: spending cap space.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: The following year.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: If you finish fourteenth, if you're the best of the worst,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: then you get fourteen extra million bucks to do with
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: what you please the following season. You've got to incentivize
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: them to try and win.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Layers players don't care about players. Put compute. Yeah, I know.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: You put the players on the floor, they're gonna compete.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I actually think that's brilliant for something I just wrote
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: down on a bar.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Actually, you just came up with it. I think it's brilliant.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Look walking up my ass.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But it's a better idea than anything that Adam the
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Silver's thrown out there.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Oh I got an idea.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Let's have a tournament for teams that are bad to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: see who're gonna finish first.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: What are the players care?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: They don't get anything out of that. What I'm saying
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: is you keep incentivizing those teams that are like the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: thirteenth pick to win. I've solved it. You're welcome. Where's
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: my check?
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: You know? All I can say is the Nuggets have
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: seven straight games against teams that are all in the
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: playoffs right now and vying for position in the playoffs.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: It would be a nice time to play seven straight
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: games against those twenty, those those teams that are tried
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: to lose.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this would be a good time.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: The schedule could not have been more unforgiving than it
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: is right now.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: It was literally like depending on how you look at it, Vic,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: and when.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: People say, excuse me, when people say, well, you gotta
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: play him at some point. Yeah, it's easier to play
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: these teams now than it is in December when they're
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: trying to win.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Well, how about this very simple. Would you rather have
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: played the Chiefs last year, Vic, in Week six or
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: week fifteen? Obviously, Yeah, it's the same concept, like everybody
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: knows what's up, but regardless of that, gotta get a
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: win tonight.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: You have to. You can't.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: If you drop this game to LA, you then flip
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to the sixth seed in the Western Conference and you're
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: staring up at everybody else.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Now I'm not here.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking you said, than done. You're not going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: have two of your best defensive players again tonight, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be taking on that triumvirate of Austin Reeves,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Lebron James and Luka Doncics. By the way, Luka do,
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I'm continually reminded since Luca joined the Lakers. He has
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: not lost to Denver since he played in games, in
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: games he's played.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something about the Laker or the
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, the Lakers though. By the way, you got
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: a construction team going on at your house right now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Pretty much.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Here's who they've beaten. Like, the Lakers haven't played good
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: basketball either. Their losses are to teams like the Celtics
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and the Spurs in the Thunder and the Knicks and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the Calves and the Clippers. You know, they haven't beaten
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a team in the Western Conference that is above the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: play in since Denver.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Denver.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know this, Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: they're almost the way they've played the late and defensively.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: The Nuggets are better defensively. They're trying defensively. The Lakers
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: problem most season has been their defense. It is just
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: non existing.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of minutes here. Scott Hastings is
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: on the phone. He said he wants to talk to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: us about the schedule.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Hi, Scotty, Hey guys, he a vic you just mentioned
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: you're talking about the bottom guys, you know, and the
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: guys trying to get in the lottery. He'd like to
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: play them next seven. Look at the following eight games
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: after you go to this gauntlin of the next seven,
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: look at the nixt date, because I think you get
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: your wish the following eight after these next seven.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: After that we got.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Philly, Memis, Toronto, Portland, Phoenix, Dallas, Utah.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bunch of them mixed in there.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right. You only hope at that point
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: that those teams don't suddenly, hey, we gotta win for
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: some reason.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much that they can find half a
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: million bucks, Scott, like.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Between now and then, Scott, all those teams are fine,
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: so much money that they're forced to win.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Well that Hey, that's what the league's trying to do. Listen.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I don't you guys got some good ideas, you know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of good ideas flowing around.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: The problem is is and especially when you, you know,
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: you come up with, hey, let's play the fourteenth team
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: gets fourteen million to the cap. That that means you're
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: taking probably money out of other other twenty nine owners
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: that are going well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Wait
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: a minute, but what do you mean you're gonna you're
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: gonna take some of my revenue that we've created and
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: give it to teams that just suck and have bad management.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: So even though it's a great idea, it ain't ever
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: gonna happen.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Scotty. I literally just spit that
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: out of my mouth without thought.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Usually what we do.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Well, and that's called talk radio. You know what I
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: said yesterday, I'm almost into where Mark Cuban screw it,
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: let him tank who cares? Can taking can be a
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: strategy to Now if you want to say you can't
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: be in the top five two years a row, you
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: can't be in the top ten three years in row,
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: and you want to penalize it that way, Okay, there
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: you go. But listen, you get decimated. You get decimated
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: in the middle of your never got decimated. What if
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: two or three of those injuries would have been season ending,
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: if they'd have been in the kiles And now you're
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: just gonna lose because you're at the cap anyway. You're
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: just there are those seasons that happened to some team,
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: But we also know there are teams like Youtah, Oklahoma
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: City did it for a couple of year period and
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: boy were they rewarded because they sold all their pieces off.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: Go look and see how many first round picks they
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: have over the next four years. I think they have
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: three this year and two or three next year. Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: and they're the best team in the league because they
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: went through like a three year window of tanking and
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: sold everybody right and everything. So there is good strategy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: It's just that some teams. And listen, this is what
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Donald Sterling did forever. Donald Sterling was getting subsidized by
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: the league having a team in LA twenty five million
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: dollars a year by not being any good and crying,
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: you know, or as me because the Lakers.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had no shame. Hey, Scotty, we got a
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: minute left in the show. Quickly. If the Lakers tonight
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: throw Marcus Smart at jokers knees, how do you counter that?
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: You put a ten day contract on his oldest brother
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: and you bring him down on the bench.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I like it. They did.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: They There ain't There ain't no speculation on ten day contracts, dude.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: I would seriously, I'd get the big one, get the
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: big one story right, and I'd say, you're on a
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: ten day contract. Here's sixty thousand dollars. We'll pay any
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: fines if you have to shit on the bench. Can
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: you imagine that guy trying to run through layup lines.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see it, Scotty, we gotta run.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Thank you, see you boys.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: All right, Scotty. You can hear him on PhD every
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: day noon two three.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: By the way, Scotty Brett says he wants to buy
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: five boxes.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: At the winner of the tickets to the Nuggets and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Sixers is.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Scott Taylor's Keelers Taylors. Congratulations to Scott. All right, we're
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: up against it, Nelly.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to do a quick
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: fact checker without the music or what are we just
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: run up.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: To you fact checkers talk to you by Bacchus and
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: shanker Vic. The keywords for today were all Rocky themed,
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: so our boss is very disappointed that you did not
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: get the theme. Oh butkus is his dog, and then
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: cuff and link are his turn.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Oh god, you're right. I'm going to turn in my
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Rocky Boutboa card right now.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: All right, iTunes, Spotify, Motion, Lombardy Cane, have a great Thursday.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Levy see