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Reaction to Ole Miss UPSET vs. Georgia in CFB Playoff Quarterfinal · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three
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  Speaker 1: and Out podcast. It is a late late Thursday night,
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  Speaker 1: January one, Happy New Year. Hopefully you are doing great,
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  Speaker 1: enjoying life. And uh, we're gonna talk some football. I
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  Speaker 1: got my guy interned, Jackson, who's now producer, Jackson who
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  Speaker 1: loves college football. I said, you know what, Jackson, hop
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  Speaker 1: on with me tonight and let's talk some Let's react
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  Speaker 1: to what just happened today. Obviously the massive win by
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  Speaker 1: the Ole Miss Rebels and beat the Georgia Bulldogs and
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  Speaker 1: everything else that happened as well. I recorded a podcast
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  Speaker 1: have said it's pretty big one, a lot on the line,
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  Speaker 1: so we will have you covered. But let's talk to
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  Speaker 1: Jackson everything that went on. Let's just let's just dive
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  Speaker 1: right in that game. You know, the Lane Kiff and Saga,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Golden getting the job. I think everyone you know
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  Speaker 1: just found themselves obviously, you know, I'm I'm a Kirby fan.
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  Speaker 1: How could you not be, I mean, Georgia, what he's done,
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  Speaker 1: it was hard not to pull for ole Miss. And
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  Speaker 1: then when you factor in the storyline of this Division
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  Speaker 1: two quarterback, it looks like a right handed Michael Vick
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  Speaker 1: out there, you know, and then you got Gunner Stockton.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was theater, it was cinema. It was
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  Speaker 1: freaking awesome. That game was an absolute delight. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be a ole Miss historian, but
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  Speaker 1: I googled they want to national championship in nineteen sixty two,
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  Speaker 1: I think the last couple of years, the first time
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  Speaker 1: ever they've won back to back regular seasons where they
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  Speaker 1: won ten plus wins to beat the best team currently
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC, the standard of the SEC in a
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  Speaker 1: playoff game that has to be definitely of my lifetime,
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  Speaker 1: probably not even a close second. The biggest win for
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  Speaker 1: ole Miss and for Pete Golding to do it. As
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's not the interim head coach, he is
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. Him taken over with Joe Judge screwing
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  Speaker 1: up the end of the half. That was I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine not loving football like watching I get
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  Speaker 1: if you're watching the Oregon Texas Tech game, you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of boring. That game was. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get any better when it comes to entertainment. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking before we hit record. The Chicago Niner
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  Speaker 1: game was just offensive fireworks. There was no defense played
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  Speaker 1: in that game tonight. I mean, guys are getting blasted.
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  Speaker 1: There were great plays on both sides. Ole Miss, who
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  Speaker 1: I would say doesn't have a great defense, at least
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  Speaker 1: if you watched them play the season I thought was
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  Speaker 1: coming up with huge stops, were playing their ass off.
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  Speaker 1: The one big D lineman batted down it felt like
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  Speaker 1: seven balls. That was sweet Golding, you know, in his
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  Speaker 1: first game, pretty calm and collected on the sideline. What
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  Speaker 1: a win for all Miss. What a night for college football.
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  Speaker 1: And let's face it, the number one conference for about
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  Speaker 1: the last fifteen plus years. It's you could argue it's
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  Speaker 1: a little down the last couple of years, given that
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  Speaker 1: they haven't won a national championship. Kinda saved the day.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't believe back to back years Kirby Smart
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  Speaker 2: in the quarterfinal. I don't even know what his press
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  Speaker 2: conference is gonna be. But I'm sure it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: just like it has been the entire week about these
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  Speaker 2: first round bys one to seven back to back years
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  Speaker 2: where gunnar'stock going to have more experience in a quarterfinal
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  Speaker 2: game against a Division two quarterback, And it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: those two plays. The one with the fourth and three
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  Speaker 2: on their own thirty thirty five yard line goes for it,
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  Speaker 2: runs some kind of like I don't know, swing pass or.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, gets stuffed.
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  Speaker 2: And then the third and five, Chambliss is over three
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  Speaker 2: hundred yards passing no timeouts, and you're gonna run man
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  Speaker 2: coverage when he's been when he's been toasting, he was
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  Speaker 2: befuring the entire game. Like, I don't know, that's just
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  Speaker 2: head scratching to me. You obviously got to capitalize and
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  Speaker 2: give credit to ole Miss, but like is being a little.
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  Speaker 1: Cocky, Like I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: On God's Green Earth, why you go man coverage with
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  Speaker 2: twenty seconds left on his own thirty yard line when
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  Speaker 2: he's been dustiny for the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: See, I think you can rewind it. On that final
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  Speaker 1: drive when they had the ball and Number fourteen had
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  Speaker 1: got the Pi. He had got the holding penalty, which
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  Speaker 1: they probably is a touchdown. Right if he doesn't hold
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  Speaker 1: him on that that kind of that double route they ran,
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  Speaker 1: he would have been wide open. They had the ball,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss only had two timeouts, and they ran it,
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  Speaker 1: and they ran it, and they called both timeouts, and
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  Speaker 1: it was like, I think they were on like six
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  Speaker 1: or seven yard line. You run the ball, you were
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  Speaker 1: kicking the game tying field goal with what twenty seconds left,
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  Speaker 1: I do think when you chose to pass it there
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  Speaker 1: and again he had got Greedy with the fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, that's in the past. You're in position at
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  Speaker 1: minimum to go to overtime. You've been in this situation
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  Speaker 1: way more than this other operation. Their coaching staff brand new.
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  Speaker 1: You got Joe Judge and Golding now running the game
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  Speaker 1: management and Pete's second game he's ever coached. And let's
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  Speaker 1: face it, like no shade to two lane. What they
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  Speaker 1: did was a heck of a season. Their coach is
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  Speaker 1: now in Florida. This is a different world, and go
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  Speaker 1: to overtime with them. Like to me, if you're Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: they got Greedy on that pass, and listen, it's not like,
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  Speaker 1: well the guy dropped it. I mean the DV was
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  Speaker 1: right in front of them. Hell, the dB could have
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  Speaker 1: caught it. I mean it was like I thought, that play,
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  Speaker 1: run the ball, obviously a low percentage you're gonna score,
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  Speaker 1: though you had kind of been leaning on them. Now
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  Speaker 1: the stud back hurt his knee and you know Rankle
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  Speaker 1: and was outill. You get stuff for no yards, kick
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  Speaker 1: the field goal. They get the ball back twenty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Even in college football, this is in the NFL. He
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  Speaker 1: kick it out of bound. Started at the twenty. I
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  Speaker 1: would say, you're going to overtime? What ninety plus percent chance?
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  Speaker 1: I thought he got greedy there, So when he missed
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  Speaker 1: that and all of a sudden, you look, you like
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine seconds. I also think Goldie did a good
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  Speaker 1: job the first play on that drive. He didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to risk like an incompletion, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: go like three and out with like thirty five maybe
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  Speaker 1: even forty seconds. Punt it. They'd have three timeouts because
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  Speaker 1: you know he's going to try to pass. They ran
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  Speaker 1: it on the first play. It was actually sneaky good
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  Speaker 1: clock management because even if that play you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: on the one on one coverage on the outside. Let's
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  Speaker 1: say that never happens and they just you know, run
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  Speaker 1: five six seconds and they have to punt it. There
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  Speaker 1: was still like it would have been under thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 1: you would have still listen. It would have been tough.
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  Speaker 1: They had three timeouts, but they kind of manipulated a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. I thought, I thought, got he's greedy a lot, rightfully,
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  Speaker 1: so right he runs a fake punt, he's got balls.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think there's a balance of being reckless,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, like God, I would have ran the ball.
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  Speaker 1: There be a little conservative. I think some of these
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  Speaker 1: guys you see it with Dan Lanning a lot like
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  Speaker 1: going for it all the time, Like Dan, this is
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  Speaker 1: a low scoring game, like points matter, and I just
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  Speaker 1: think you're in this mindset, we can score, we can
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  Speaker 1: score it. Well, what if you don't. And Ole Miss,
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  Speaker 1: who is not exactly known as like some defensive juggernaut
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC, made some big play tonight And you
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  Speaker 1: can't expose their dbs as much, you know, on the
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  Speaker 1: six seven yard line as you can if it was
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  Speaker 1: at the thirty yard line, because the one guy was
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  Speaker 1: getting you know, spun like a dradle. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: that's one Kirby. I think you run the hell kneel
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  Speaker 1: the ball and just run the clock out and play
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  Speaker 1: for overtime. That that because you gave the ball back
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  Speaker 1: with this guy red hot with sixty seconds left.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, I don't know if I'm more
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  Speaker 2: shocked if you would have told me too years ago
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  Speaker 2: that Indiana is going to the semifinals and beat Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: or that a Division two quarterback would beat Kirby Smart
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  Speaker 2: in the quarterfinal with a quarterback that's played the entire year,
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  Speaker 2: played really well. You got two quarterbacks playing backyard football,
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  Speaker 2: and for him to throw over three hundred yards, which
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  Speaker 2: we all thought, including myself after that SEC Champion of game,
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  Speaker 2: that the Georgia's defense was back.
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  Speaker 1: George is playing better. This is the Georgia defense we
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  Speaker 1: all expected.
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  Speaker 2: And for that entire second half, it was like they
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  Speaker 2: could not adjust to the passing game and it felt
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  Speaker 2: like not only the passing game, but it was just
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  Speaker 2: scrambling the off script the backyard football.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where you give Trinidad Chambis.
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  Speaker 2: We're texting the group chat, it's like, yeah, he made
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  Speaker 2: that throw probably a bajillion times playing Division two football,
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  Speaker 2: just rolling out to his right throwing it at his helmet.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's an NFL prospect, but if
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  Speaker 2: that guy can get an extra year of eligibility for
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  Speaker 2: Chambliss and what he's done coming in in that Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: game when all the pressure, all this stuff was on
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  Speaker 2: Austin Simmons and he was gonna be the next quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and he gets hurt and Chanlis comes in.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the day where cham was got a signed for.
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss and it was like, Oh cool, some cute
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  Speaker 2: Farris State transfer eight hundredth ranked transfer, sixtieth ranked transfer
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  Speaker 2: portal quarterback, Like you talk about Signetti and what his
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  Speaker 2: impact is in terms of portal recruiting. This has opened
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  Speaker 2: up the not even the fcs of the Division two
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  Speaker 2: people looking like, hey, why don't I go get this
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  Speaker 2: fair State quarterback. Not saying'sna make the impact of Chambliss,
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  Speaker 2: but at cheaper price, lower risk, high reward, you end
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  Speaker 2: up going to the semi finals with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I think it's one of the coolest stories
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  Speaker 1: in the early part of the transfer portal era. It
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  Speaker 1: will happen again. It's inevitable. This used to happen in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean it still kind of does not
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  Speaker 1: as often and won't any more than transfer Portal era.
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  Speaker 1: But like I bet if you go back to you know,
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  Speaker 1: the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, these guys from obscure
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  Speaker 1: schools becoming star players, you know D two players or
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  Speaker 1: D one double A players. Well, Steve McNair I think
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  Speaker 1: was a D one double A player at Alcorn State,
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  Speaker 1: you know, went on to win the MVP. That situation
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  Speaker 1: is just not gonna have as much because now Steve
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  Speaker 1: McNair after a year would be at Alabama or would
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  Speaker 1: be at Techa and m or something, and you know Chambliss.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that that was as much
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  Speaker 1: fun as I've had watching it. And I would say
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  Speaker 1: Gunner stock to too. The way he played, he was
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  Speaker 1: like a slower version, but you know, kind of got
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  Speaker 1: a little Johnny Manzeld to his game. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: one hit he took that that's as heart of a
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  Speaker 1: hit in the pros or college as you will ever
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  Speaker 1: see anymore. And it was a legal hit. The guy
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  Speaker 1: led with his shoulder hit him kind of like in
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  Speaker 1: his chest plate. He almost did, you know, a full
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  Speaker 1: summer assault in the air and there's no way he
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  Speaker 1: remembers scoring on the next play when he just I
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  Speaker 1: just think they pushed him in. He might not remember
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the game. But the Trinidad, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think most people, a lot of casual fans came in,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that probably watch more NFL maybe
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  Speaker 1: than college or watching this game at home and are going,
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  Speaker 1: who is this guy? I mean his physical skills, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his arm strength, his accuracy, his mobility, his poise. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the throw he made on like you said that
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  Speaker 1: third and five, how one if he leads them, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the guy can tackle him, but he kind of let
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  Speaker 1: him in and maybe he didn't mean to. Maybe might
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  Speaker 1: could have been a slight miss. It actually worked out
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  Speaker 1: better throwing it a little inside because he could kind
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  Speaker 1: of turn it up and gain I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: he gained an extra ten to fifteen yards after he
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  Speaker 1: caught the ball. My jaw dropped when he completed that
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  Speaker 1: pass because you were like, they won the game, because
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  Speaker 1: the field goal kickers in this game. Turns out they
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  Speaker 1: got like, I don't know two Adam van Teri's I'm speechless.
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  Speaker 2: And then you go to the flip side of things
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  Speaker 2: that the portal opens up tomorrow. So it's like, you
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  Speaker 2: have your offensive coordinator, you got all these other coaches
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  Speaker 2: that are kind of playing the two sides of LSU
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  Speaker 2: and Old Miss, and you got to play in the
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  Speaker 2: semi finals next week. You got Lane Kiffin tweet about
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  Speaker 2: he's excited for portal day. Eve Like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: the insights of how much influenced Charlie Weisse had in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the portal. Maybe he kind of looks over, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: these are some guys that declared early that I like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the influence and how much he has
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  Speaker 2: compared to the scouting department, compared to the general manager,
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  Speaker 2: even Lane Kiffin. But that's another added element. But for
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  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen, how much did he make tonight? A million
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  Speaker 2: dollars two hundred thousand dollars for not even coaching tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Like that agreement to it too is kind of weird
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  Speaker 2: how you can't coach your team.
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  Speaker 1: What was that? Was Ole Miss gonna still pay him
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  Speaker 1: or was it LSU gonna pay him the Ole Miss bonus? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Ale Mis agreed to pay all the CFP payouts and
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  Speaker 2: they continue to win. I think he made two hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand when they won the first game, Mike Double, who
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  Speaker 2: knows twohundred fifty thousand. I haven't checked Twitter or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but that's kind of a weird. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: that came to an agreement. I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was one or the other, but that's kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of like it. It was the big you know, financially,
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  Speaker 1: a couple hundred grand to him at this point means
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  Speaker 1: nothing but the outcome of the game. I actually think
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  Speaker 1: he's a big loser tonight because I didn't think this
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  Speaker 1: was possible, not in a million year. I thought they
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  Speaker 1: would beat Georgia. I just thought the defense would let
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  Speaker 1: him down. Obviously, their defense made enough plays in the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and the offense was incredible, and that they had a
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  Speaker 1: i don't know, spark, a juice of momentum to them
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  Speaker 1: all game long. I thought they played really well tonight.
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  Speaker 1: They just had a Lacey fumble that was a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: The end of the half situation where the kid stays
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  Speaker 1: in bounds, I mean he crushed Joe, Judge and I
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  Speaker 1: get it, and listen, I used to make fun. You know,
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  Speaker 1: before you guys were part of this podcast. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Judge was an easy target. That's just like football
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  Speaker 1: one oh one, Like it is a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: the player, especially both guys. The route they ran, there
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  Speaker 1: was a guy on each side sitting like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three or four yards past the line of scrimmage. They
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  Speaker 1: have to be like he if he dumps it down,
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  Speaker 1: just go right out of bounds. I put that a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more on the player. I'm sure they've practiced
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  Speaker 1: that situation, you know, back with Lane. But this you
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  Speaker 1: beat Georgia, now you're in the semi finals. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a double whammy one. It's a remarkable accomplishment for
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  Speaker 1: the post Lane Kiff and Ole miss like Pete gets
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  Speaker 1: the credit for tonight right he beat He had this
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  Speaker 1: group ready to beat Georgia. And I think this adds
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  Speaker 1: now pressure, which there already was a ton on Lane,
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  Speaker 1: Like you better be in the final four. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know within like the next two years or or or
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  Speaker 1: like we're gonna have problems. And I texted you guys,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what actually plays out. I do wonder now
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  Speaker 1: you beat Georgia, that was the equivalent like when Indiana
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: beat Ohio State. Like turns out Indiana just might win
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing, but there's season at that moment was
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  Speaker 1: kind of made for like program history, Like this is
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  Speaker 1: a program historic moment for Ole Miss. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: all the all the cats that you've kind of been
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  Speaker 1: letting do both roles. And there have been articles written
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  Speaker 1: that it's a bizarre situation, you know, it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: like Oregon where everyone's cool with each other. This is
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  Speaker 1: a situation where it's like, are some of these guys rogue?
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder if they say, like, just stay and
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  Speaker 1: stay in Louisiana. You guys are done, and that includes Charlie,
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  Speaker 1: who I've read quotes Pete likes him, but it would
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  Speaker 1: not shock me at all. Off in the next twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours, Old Miss basically announces like all the holdover
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  Speaker 1: guys are not back and we're just rolling with the
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  Speaker 1: group we got Pete's guys. I think they've added, like
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  Speaker 1: who was the interim for LSU they hired him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I think his name not Frank Smith, Frank Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I mean what, Yeah, Well, there was a Penn State guy,
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  Speaker 1: and there was an LSU guy, and they have sent
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  Speaker 1: Terry Smith was then state guy, and he stayed at
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  Speaker 1: Penn state, this guy who was like a Louisiana legend
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  Speaker 1: is coming to Ole Miss. My guess would be if
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  Speaker 1: I ran Ole Miss and I was Pete, I'd be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to kick them all out, We're just
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  Speaker 1: we'll just roll like our season. I think their season.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously you're at the final four. You want the whole
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. I think it was the whole Lane Kiffin thing.
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  Speaker 1: If your old miss, you feel like you won tonight,
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  Speaker 1: like you won this, it felt weird, it felt like
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  Speaker 1: you got screwed, and now it feels like you kind
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: of won the divorce in the short term at least,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: and you go, well, when's he gonna make the funnel
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: for I think the assumption, too, was that Trinidad Chambliss,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: if he could get a waiver because of an injury
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: head in twenty twenty two, that he was gonna leave
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss and go to LSU.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: You win a game like this with I don't know
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: they're gonna build him a statue, I mean, biggest winning
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: program history.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he decides to leave.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: If he does get that opportunity to play another season,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: who knows. Maybe Lane Kimpan has other opportunities. Maybe he's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: got a vision to go to Soresby or go to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Sam Levit or.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: But he's a lot of quarterbacks to make a decision
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: right now in the next couple of days, right, yeah, actually,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: so he could easily just kind of be forced. He
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to sign a guy, and hopefully I was.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: If Chambliss had even got the opportunity in one tonight
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to go to LSU, that would suck. And I've never
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: been anti LSU, but I'm kind of I wouldn't mind
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: seeing Lane like have a little struggle, you know, after
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the night like that was that was just like a
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: very I want to say organic. I mean, they steal
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys in the transfer portal too, but
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that was a really kind of pure college like that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: was badass. You know, that was bad because Indiana historically,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: My wife was saying tonight, She's like, let's root for
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the underdog Indiana. I'm like, well, Maria, they are a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: touchdown favorite in this game. Like, yeah, historically Alabama is
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the most national championships. This is the losing his program.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But currently Indiana is favored big in this game. People
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: expect them to win. They just beat Ohio State. They're
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: really good, and then they won thirty eight to three,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and once you watch that game, you're like, yeah, it
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't even that close. Were this I mean, there couldn't
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: have been many people in the South in the SEC honestly,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: probably around Old Miss. It felt good about going into
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: this game that we were going to beat Georgia, right,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and then you beat him in the fashion in which
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: you beat him. I think that's part of it too.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: They were up ten points in the second half. That
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: would have been cool just to like win the game
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: by ten right when it like forty to thirty two
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: or whatever. To be down or tied late and get
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the ball back and drive in that moment by by
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Trinidad was badass. That that was. That was sick. And
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: listen if now, Anthony Richardson and Trey Lance, some of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: these guys are a lot bigger, right, they're taller. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: don't know how tall Trinidad is, but I think he's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like five to eleven, right. So part of being a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: good NFL prospect is not necessarily like what you do
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in college. It's a lot about attributes and physical traits
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and whether that's right or wrong. We could argue till
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: we're blue in the face. A lot of times it
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: is wrong. And I'm not saying just because those guys
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: went in the top five, he's goin to go in
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the first round. My point is we have seen guys
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: all the time get way over drafted in the first round.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: This guy's can get drafted in the NFL, right, That's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that's my point. I don't know how high. If he
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: didn't want to come out now he could, he'd probably
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be a third day pick because he's really short, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna trend away from short quarterbacks. But
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he can get drafted now. He I would want to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: come back and make four million dollars to be the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: old miss quarterback and pays more than being a six
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: round pick. But he's gonna you do that tonight on
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that stage and what he's done all season long in
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the SEC, He's gonna get a shot in the in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the NFL, even if he's on the practice squad for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a while, like he changed Listen and Lane and Charlie
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Weis deserve credit. There's a story where I think Charlie
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Weiss was watching him in the recruiting office or like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: in his office with some recruiting guys and they called
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Lane like, you got to check this guy out, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: within like an hour they'd offer him a scholarship, which
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't even supposed to be the starter, right
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: because Austin Simmons, who got hurt. He comes in and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I heard someone that covers Old Miss said, I think
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in the spring game he had like five drives for
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: five touchdowns. People like, damn, who's this guy? But it
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't What were you saying was the eight hundredth transfer portal? Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: fifty fourth transfer, sixtieth rank transfer port It's the coolest,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like we have seen bo Nicks or guys that were
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like discounted go on to resurrect their career. He was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: also like a five star, four star in Auburn. You know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: this is by far, so far the coolest. This is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: up there with like Jared Verse from Albany going to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Florida State now being like one of the best players
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. But it's also different at quarterback and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Jared Verse because his quarterback I injured, didn't even get
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a chance to make the fun of four. Right, that's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: part you know that when you factor it all in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I would put this right up there with Verse and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: now Albany as being the coolest transfer portal story so far.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Now Verse gets drafted in the top twenty, right, so
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it's he was clearly like, God, this guy's sweet. This
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: guy's not gonna go in the first round. But man,
• 20:51
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Where does Georgia go from here?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Because now this is back to back years where you
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: lose in the quarterfinal with a big break two Division
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: two quarterback and their defense looked a lot better towards
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the back end in the season. I'm gonna get some
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of their defensive guys. The only real guy that's gonna
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: get drafted highest CJ. Allen, their linebacker. But for the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: most part, I thought their defensive line was pretty weak
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: compared to what you see from the other Georgia days.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: They kind of looked like the defense that they played
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the first time against Ole Miss, and then they got
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a possession late in that game. I think, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Turnidad Chamis obviously looked a lot more shaken up in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that big moment versus tonight. He looked like he was
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: like another Division two game that he was playing in,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: especially after Ohio State losing last night. You know, you
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: had the upset. I mean Oregon one and Indiana one, Like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know where you go from here. For Kirby Smart,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you got a lot of talent offensively, but that defense,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you're a defensive guy like that. You did make some
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: dumb calls. Maybe it's not maybe it's too big of
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: an overreaction. You're maybe two or three plays away. They
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: just won the SEC.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I think we have to look at the playoffs a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: little bit closer, like the NCAA tournament. You can have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: an unreal year. You have one bad game in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: round of thirty two or the sweet sixteen, you just
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: get bounced. You know, before three four years ago, there's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: four teams in and they're one of the four teams,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and losing in that, you know, of one of those
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: first two games doesn't feel as bad as losing in
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the eight. So it's it's just gonna feel bad. You know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's like that's part of the that's part of what
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: playoffs is so cool. You know, it happens in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: NFL all the time. A two or three seed will
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: lose to a six or seven seed. The Cowboys a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, they get rolled by the Packers,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: right as as the seventh seed, Well that's that's football.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Eli Manning won a couple of Super Bowls as a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: wild card. You know, that's it's just gonna happen more
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and more now. I know everyone the you know, whatever
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they won in seven in the by games, you're gonna
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have part of the playoffs. You're gonna have good matchups, right,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just part of the deal. Like Texas Tech,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with them getting to like they
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: drew Oregon. That's you know, these guys ole Miss just
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: went eleven and one in the SEC. Like they're pretty good, right,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that's It's not like they weren't a twenty
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: point underdog here. They got a lot of good players.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, if Lane Kiffen would have stayed, let's say
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: he never leaves the LSU, maybe this doesn't feel as crazy.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, shit, they almost beat him in the Rails season.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I remember we were all text about it when that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: game was ole Miss. That game was at Georgia. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: were beating him like in the fourth quarter and then Trinidad.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And that's what was cool about tonight is in that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: game he kind of imploded, and tonight I was like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm ready for this moment. I wonder if
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you look back at that game between the hedges, if
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it kind of like, you know, calloused him a little bit.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: He was just more poised, more like I can I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: can do this. Because he melted a little bit in
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that moment. He did, and he not only didn't melt tonight,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: he I don't know, became a college football legend, which
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean, that's that's the cool part about
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: college sports, and that's you know, watching like the the halftime.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: It's like Tim Tebow. Now, I'm not comparing Trinidad to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, but like you don't have to go on
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to have a great NFL career. I've heard Trinidad like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he's really impressive, like he could be part of this operation,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: like be an SEC guy for a long time. Matt
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Lioner and Brady Quinn are the go to guys for Fox. Right,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: they were first round picks, but they're college football legendary individuals,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: got Notre Dame at SC. And it's like now he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: is entrenched kind of in that world the rest of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: his life if he wants to, you know, if his
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: NFL career. I don't watch much CFL football, but I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: feel like he could say I'd say the same, Diego Pavia.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like those guys would dominate up there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Diego Pavia, Tommy Costiano's Trinidad Chambliss. I mean, sign me
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: up for some CFO football with those two three.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Guys mobile quarterbacks moving around.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Were you more shocked Ole Miss winning tonight or Miami
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: beating Ohio State?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Uh? More shocking tonight? Because when you watch Miami playoffhouse state.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: You're like, Miami has like probably seven eight guys are
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get drafted this year. They have, I don't know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: one of the best teams money can buy. I had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a scouting buddy text me. He's like, Bro, you don't
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: understand how much money this team is spending right now
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in this roster. Not that Old Miss doesn't spend anything,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, I don't expect Old Miss to beat Georgia.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: When you watch Miami, you're like, well, the players are
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the same, and one big difference in that game. I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: thought Carson Beck was a lot better than saying. Saying
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: had a couple drives in the second half, but he
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: was getting rattled. He was I heard one of the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: guys on on three say, you know, his five sacks
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: he lost forty two yards, So on average, he's losing
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: over eight yards of sack. Why he's going backwards when
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he gets pressure or Carson. It's not like they weren't
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: getting pressure on Carson. He just went forward. And some
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of the times he ran and some of the times
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: he just would run into a throw. He would it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: just he would step up in the pocket. Well, for
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: five four years or whatever, because you forget he was
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the backup to Stetsan Bennett. So who do you think
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: was running scout team against Jordan Davis, Nolan Smith, all
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: those guys that he just has way more. You watch
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck obviously, these two quarterbacks tonight compared to like
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Ty and Fernando compared to Ty Simpson and saying it
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: was now saying, or, I mean, Simpson's clearly banged up
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and he's just He's probably just a guy, and I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: doubt he ever starts again at Alabama. Now that other
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: guy's in, you would imagine he's a starter next year.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But like saying, like, is that as good as you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: can do with Ohio State. I know he's a big
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: recruit and he comes from Alabama, but I don't know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I it's not exactly CJ Shroud back there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is last time Ohio State lost
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: like that two years ago, Ryan and they blamed it
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: all on Kyle McCord. Remember it was like Kyle McCord
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is not good enough? Can they lost to Michigan And
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: then he went to Syracuse and was awesome. And obviously
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: they went to Will Howard who brought like uh Riley
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Leonard was the same kind of deal. They brought this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like physical running presence and saying does not even I
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: didn't realize Carson Beck did really but last night he's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like fuck it how many times? I mean he ran
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: over guys. You know you saw the two quarterbacks tonight
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like they were not you got to play this game
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like it's John l Way in the Super Bowl, like helicoptering,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and some guys did it, and some guys are kind
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of hesitant to do it. And maybe I mean saying
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: really can't run. But I mean, I think the quarterback
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: play when you watch teams that won, I mean, Mendoza
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was really good, but they were killing him. But he
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: was like you compare Mendoza to saying it wasn't even
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it's or I mean ty Simpson wasn't even close. Dante Moore,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I thought, was he kind of hit or missed today?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But compared to that quarterback who actually felt bad for
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: were making fun of because I saw his postgame press conference.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: He was crying. He's like loves the Red Raiders, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: he was that was atrocious. That was that he couldn't
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have been much worse at one point in times like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: thirteen nothing You're like, they're in the red zone. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: throws a pick. The guy didn't even needed to jump.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: He's like, is this serious? So quarterback obviously, line of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: scrimmage play is a big deal. We talked about that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: with Miami and Indiana. But your your quarterback play then
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: has to thrive behind it. Mendoza thrived, was just dominant.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck I thought, I don't I know his numbers,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Like he didn't throw for three hundred yards. I think
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he was like one hundred and forty. I thought he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: was excellent. And I've always been a hater, but I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was like, that's he played a big time winning football
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: game then. And both the quarterbacks to night like, it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: not Gunnar Stockton's fault. They lost. He was he was
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: getting killed. He was he was good. He's gotten way
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: better than the guy that I thought, or like he's
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a good player. Like you said, their defense used to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: be a lot more dominant. But what they mentioned and
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you were saying this about your big Notre Dame fan,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: well they're starting center at Indiana is from Notre Dame.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And I started thinking, like why would he leave Notre Dame?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And it's like, well, because the guy he replaced is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: coming back and he was gonna start. We'll think about it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So Notre Dame like a Georgia, like a Texas, like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: an Oregon. They used to go too deep with like start.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Georgia used to have back Jalen Carter, you know, Jordan David.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: They were going too deep with guys like that, mikel
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Williams Walker. I mean they Walker's like backing up Nolan Smith,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and they rotating in with these guys well
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: as the transfer portal. Sometimes guys are loyal and some
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: guys are like, well do I want to get ten
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to twenty snaps? That's Kirby's big thing. We have the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: most guys in the SEC that play minimum, you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: seven to ten snaps a game, which sounds great. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the guy's like, well, I could play forty snaps at Vanderbilt,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: or I could play I could be a starter at
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Old Miss or Hey, Kurt Signetti called me and says, hey,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you'll be my starting tight end instead of my rotating
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tight end behind Brock Bauers or whoever the guy is
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: now and those guys leave now right because it's it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: not just money, which obviously factors in but I bet
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of these schools like, we'll pay you too,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: but it's like I'm gonna get paid and start. That's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the hard thing to me is that's changed college football.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: That's why I think Oregon kind of gets a little
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt too because Dan Lanning plays a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: lot of guys and they're all young. So yes, like
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you might not get the amount of reps as you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: would get out of their school, but if you're rotating,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to win a championship like most
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I used the retention rate for them for Notre Dame.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: We'll see what Georgia happens after this night. But I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: feel like the retention rate is some of those higher
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: schools because they know how long the postseason in, how
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: long I'm gonna how many games you play, They're not
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: as prone to get a lot of guys to leave
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: as well. It's not a good example, but Iowa State
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: they lost a ton of guys because of their coach.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Like, I feel like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the retention rate on some of those bigger schools versus
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: kind of the medium power for schools that just only
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: especially offensive line. I mean, you're only playing five guys,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: You're not rotating offensive line unless they get hurt.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So exactly. So I bet if you went to some
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of like Sabans great teams, his backup offensive linemen were
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: ten year NFL pros, which is gonna be harder if
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that guy has to wait till his red shirt sophomore year.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like, wait, you want me to not play
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: for two seasons. I think a lot of guys you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: get paid as a true freshman whatever. By the time
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you get to a red shirt freshman year, you're like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a five star and I'm clearly not starting this year.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Then you started thinking that's where I think things come
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: into play, and you're getting screamed at all the time
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: in practice or Dan Lanning. Part of it is like
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they're just young, Like they are just playing a bunch
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: of high school kids, right Like did you hear the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: stat today that I think they had twenty four touchdowns
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: from freshmen that led the country. So part of it
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was he had transitioned to all his high school recruits,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: like it feels a little less transfer portally on his team,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and same with Georgia, like they're gonna be very recruiting
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: heavy because they're gonna recruit the best play. That's the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: thing with USC, right, they're like a number one recruiting
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: class in the country. Well, I mentioned this to Coward tonight. Well,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Lincoln's got a lot of pressure next year. How many
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna help you compete to win
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: ten games next year and be in the playoffs? Best
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: case scenario of a twenty man class five that seems
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: very bold, and if it doesn't go well, maybe a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: guy gets injured two So it's actually that would have
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: been a big deal in two thousand and seven. It's like, damn,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, this team is gonna be stacked.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think it matters as much anymore, right, unless
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you're Dan Lanning or Kirby and you don't have like
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: year to year pressure. So I think it's a hard ballot.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: There's not a right or wrong answer. I mean, Lane
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Kiffen was the transfer portal king. I mean, how many
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: guys that were playing tonight did not come to Old
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Miss out of high school? Right? A lot, because he's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: not getting the bet, He's not getting a player out
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of high school that he thinks can't beat Alabama. Georgia
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Florida to LSU. Well, now he's at you know what
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, when he was at Ole Miss. So he's like,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'll just go to the transfer portal and get Walter Nolan,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: get you know whoever, and that's how I'm gonna compete.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So I there's not a right or wrong way to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: do it, but I think big picture, you gotta recruit well,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: but then you've got to keep those guys around. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: it's a hard It's what what's why all these guys
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: are bitching a moaning because the roster retention. How many
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: guys over the next forty eight hours gonna be like,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I've re signed with the team I've already been at
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: that I've played for the last two years. It's like, well, yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I thought so. So it's it's a it's a weird deal.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think he watched Georgia. They're just
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: not quite the same that they don't have the same
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: pop were Indiana. Man, how many transfer portal guys do
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they nail? Now? A lot of those guys are jam
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you guys that he brought and Mendoza. I've seen a
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: lot of like why weren't more Mendoza's brother was on
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the team, so his family had a Is it fair
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to say a unique relationship with Shanahan? I think is
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the OC no relation and Signetty, who's an offensive guy,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: so it's it probably wasn't a normal recruitment, and Mendoza
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think was viewed as some potential top ten
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: pick at this time last year when people like oh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Indiana got the cow quarterback cool, you know so I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and I mean the story obviously denight of that game,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: but the Indiana game, I mean they clearly there is
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Mendoza's better than Beck, and their wide receiver group is deeper.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, they got three guys you feel really good about,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and their running backs good, and their defense is incredible.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I would say they feel like the most complete team,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and clearly Miami feels like that. The way they can
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: dominate the line of scrimmage if Beck plays well, they
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: can beat anybody in a low scoring game. Oregon kind
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of feels like a year away, you know, ole miss
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I would probably bet on them to kind of run
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: out of juice, though I don't want to kind of,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you know, pee on their parade here. Every time you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: keep doubting them.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: They just keep winning too, so they have that bulletin
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: war material link iff and leaving where it's like, yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Like we were talking before, like
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you know, how is Miami's defensive line going to do
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: against Chambliss. Most likely their defensive line is going to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: dominate ole Miss's offensive line. Well, I'm like, well, I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: don't know if Baye and messadorill be able to catch Chambliss.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: If he's running around like that for the amount of
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: time the four quarters of the motor he didn't even
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: seem tired for the entire game, and then you got
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the scrambling drone. The connections that you have offensively, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: mean they are a team. I mean I could see
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: them obviously beat Miami. But the fact that we always
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: talk about Cinderella's and you know, some people have gripe
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: about the Group of five, It's pretty cool to see
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: these two teams ole Miss in Miami. The storylines between
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: those like those are the kind of storylines. Those are
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the underdogs that we wanted powerful.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I do think, and I've saw some tweets about Cinderella's.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: This it's a lot different in the world were in though, right,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I mean Indiana has the number one overall pick who
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they just could pick up off another team. They're landing
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the center from Notre Dame. It's like, well, who's your center, Well,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: we just needed one. We picked up one guy from
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It's it's that, you know, basketball, Cinderellas are well,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: some little ass school beats Kentucky. That's insane. Indiana beating
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like they were a touchdown favorite in the game on
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a neutral site and a quarter in You're like, is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: this should have been more right? And oh miss? How
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: many guys they have drafted last year? I mean they
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: had I think the most guys drafted they've had in
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the top ten since like the Hugh Freeze, Laramie Tunzel
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Treadwell kind of that group. So it's it's there. They
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just went eleven and one in the SEC. So I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: think the Cinderella when it comes to the power for
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: teams even though they're not household names. And that's what
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: threw me off about Indiana. I just kept thinking, Indiana,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: they're just no different than they might as well be,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: like you know sc Or twenty years ago, right or
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. You know, they're just they're just really really good,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and the top teams, because they're losing guys, aren't as dominant.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: That's part of it. I do think it would be
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: harder for all these teams to beat some of the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: prime heyday, you name it right. Miami teams are early
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: two thousands Pee Carroll teams, Florida teams, Alabama teams because
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: they every player was a pro and their backups were pros.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Now you watch like, oh this guy got injured. You
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: kind of look at the face of the coach. They're like,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: oh shit, and that that's that used to not be
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the case because bam was like, Okay, so and So's out.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: The backup is like Derrick Henry, you know, backups, Xavier McKinney, backups.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You know Dante hight Tower. Yeah, he's a recherd freshman.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be pretty good player. That's I think it's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: much more of a coin flip. Now the depth of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the Blue Blue Chippers, and if Indiana or some of
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: these schools can stay healthy, their starting players are really
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: high caliber. Like if Indiana's players all win in the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: portal tomorrow, let's say they were done playing. Let's say
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that their signetti just left. I think all the good
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: teams would want all their players, right, So that's where
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Cinderella thing like part of it is, well,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: how's Boise State even this good because it was crazy
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty years ago. To me, it's not crazy
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: like it would have been crazy if JAMU or two
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Lane like rattle off a couple wins and I don't
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: think it's even possible. But like ole Miss, I watched
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: ole Miss almost beat George at Georgia. You know we've
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: seen Indiana. I mean, Indiana's last two wins are against
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Ohio State and Alabama. Ohio State game was tough, but
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: today was not. And they kicked the crap out of them,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: kick the crap out of them even worse. Like what
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: was the final score? Oregon twenty three nothing? But Texas
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Tech was kind of in that game, I mean zero
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: six surnaments. Yeah, and then it was thirteen nothing and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: they had the ball in the red zone. If they
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, there's thirteen to seven. That not saying
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Oregon was obviously the better team. But what Indiana did
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: today was whoa. They felt like the best team in
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the country. Because even Miami you watch him, how many
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: how many wide receivers do you really I mean the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: freshman kids a baller, but I think wide receivers kind
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of hit or miss. You know, the running back Fletcher,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: who's really coming on. I was listening to someone say
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: he got a Liz Frank two years ago, his true
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: freshman year in the Bowl game. So last year he
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't quite the same. He's kind of getting it back now.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: So in a weird way, he was a well known
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: guy a couple of years ago. A little it feels
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: a little under the radar throughout the season. He's obviously
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: playing well right now. These last couple of games make
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: it some big runs. I mean he was a horse
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: in that Ohio State game. I thought down stretch, especially
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that final drive. But I would guess Miami. I don't know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not public like the NFL, but I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: think the pay rolls on these four teams were all
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: relatively you know, they're all spending a lot of money.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They even mentioned tonight, like Signetty got them to spend
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of cash on this team. He got him
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to spend some money last year. But he got a
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: little lucky because he got the jam. You guys, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: think this year they uped the budget.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And it shows at least for each I would probably
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: maybe the lowest.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Would be Indiana. But and what's crazy about Indiana? And
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: even SIGNETI was like, Yeah, he's our best defensive player,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the guy that high five the dude after the game
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: broke his leg after the Ohio State game, the defensive
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the defensive lineman. That's I. I thought something like that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if they have the depth.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Didn't even notice today.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I think the hardest part with these games.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Today you're talking about Cinderells or whatever is with all
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: this new change in college football, we almost have to
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: reset our thoughts on all of these schools in like
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: a two year window instead of like twenty years twenty
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: five years going on college football.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Because you're right, like Ole Miss has a lot of stuts.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: But in terms of like seeing the stats and seeing
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it's the betting lines or whatever, you're like, oh, well,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Georgia quarterfinals, like rematch again, playing well down the stretch
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: like of course they're gonna win. And then you get
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: upset like that and you're like whoa, Like how did
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: that happen? But when in reality, Yeah, they have a
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: stud running back, they have a really talented quarterback, and
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: they played better on that night. And then on the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: flip side of things like Indiana, Yeah, I agree with you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I think I think Indiana is probably the most complete.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I just don't know Unders. I don't understand how you
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: stopped their offense with Mendoza. If they're running that rpo,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: you got multiple running backs, three really solid receivers all
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: scored today, like Charlie Becker's coming on as a sophomore.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: It's really strong hands, catching, catching contact. Like I agree,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I mean what Signetti's done. I mean you followed this
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: for for a while, obviously longer than I have, But
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like he is gonna set a lot of
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: pressure on a lot of these other coaches. What seven
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: or eight new coaches that just got hired, not say
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: to the level of Signetti, but hey, like you have
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: two three years if they can.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Back them up with nil money.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Chesney's gonna do at UCLA or
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: somewhere all at Florida or Auburn with Golish, but it
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: feels like the you gotta, you gotta, you gotta click
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: early and on top of that. The portal quarterback position too.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: The quarterback position is gonna be a quick window as well.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Like Morton in Texas Tech, they're thinking today, like, Okay,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: we could have definitely spent money at the quarterback position,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: but we were loyal to this guy for four to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: five years. He crumbled under pressure. They're gonna spend ten
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: million dollars tomorrow. And then you look at Indiana, they
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: hit on Mendoza obviously, Like I feel like the quarterback
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: window and the coaching window is just gonna be like
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a two three year thing. And then Tys Simpson at
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Alabama where a couple of years ago, oh yeah, it
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: was his first year. Like he's had some starts, he
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: had some he had some highs, he had some lows, whatever,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that back end of the stretch. And you got a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: five star freshman that's that's Cinnerario behind him. That's your guy,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and that's not Saban's guy. Like you have those conversations.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I just think it's pretty interesting, you know, the portal
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: quarterback window, the quarterback window, and the coaching window based
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: on Signetti and some of these transfer guys that are
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: just excelling so fast.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: That's why I think everyone in la is so mad
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: at Lincoln Riley and his comments after the game about
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: like the windows open. Now look at today. Lanning took
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: over a way better. They got hired at the same time.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Mario left the cupboards full like there were a lot
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: of players there. But four years later. I don't know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: they're not the best because they haven't won a national
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: championship I think ever, but they're clearly a what top
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: three program in the country right now he has them.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He took over. They were damn good. He's taken. They're
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: just elite. I mean, they're just they just need to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: win an Natty and then you won't be able to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: say anything, kind of like Kirby. It was like clear
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Kirby was unreal, but he had to win the Natty
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to really just be like, okay, leave me alone. And
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: so Lanny's just and he might not do it this year,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna do in the next couple
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of years. Right, they're an elite programs. Okay, he took
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: over an easier thing. Well, look at Mario. Well, if
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Mario got the job and they hired Landing, they got
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: hired at the same time. Same with same with Lincoln
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: right of the same cycle. Four years later, Mario has
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: them rattling off two excellent victories to go on the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: road in A and M and that win against Ohio
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: State was fantastic, and just you just watch the way
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: their team's built. So it's like, if you do have money,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you got to dominate the portal. You gotta be on
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the right guys, you got to value the right things.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You got to hire the right defensive coaches. Miami was
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: terrible on defense last year, weren't they the Jade and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Daniels version of LSU? Like there was a jam Dam's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: version of LSU. Unreal offense, terrible defense. And then the
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: next year is cam Ward, same thing. Their offense was
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: incredible and their defense is terrible. Now you watch them,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: their defense is dominant. It's like Jesus, all these guys
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: are hitting like NFL players, And listen, people make fun
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: of Mario. He's has some devastating losses. He clearly is
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like an unreal GM and he's a tough guy, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: they just like you just kind of felt if he
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: didn't really have to make any crazy game management calls. Uh,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but I was. I think all these guys have have done.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big you know, people thought
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Landing was a star, so him being in the final
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: four is not shocking. You know, Signetty really shut everyone
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: up once he beat Ohio State. I think people like, damn,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: he's really good. Uh. Clearly he's making like ten million
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: dollars a year. Uh you know, Pete Golding, it's his
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: first big win of his life.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: So I mean he's well, see did you see that
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: he didn't even want to be the head coach. He
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: kind of like they told him, like some other guys
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: he was targeting, and he was like, no, I don't
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: want to work under those guys. I'll be the head coach.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And now he's the head coach and he just beat Georgia.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I think Mario is I don't think. I just
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: think it's pretty crazy because a lot of people think
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Mario's not that good of like a not a good
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: coach because he's good with offensive line, he's a good recruiter.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: People like him, but like in game, people think he
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: sticks in the last couple of games, like, well he
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: just I watched him just work Ryan Day. So it's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: just a really big moment. That's why let's let's look
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: ahead at these two games. Uh, you know, Indiana. I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: think the game open at three and a half is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: now four. I'm not gonna sleep on Oregon. Their games
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: are a little weird, like today was just a little weird.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You No, Dante Moore, I don't think played great relative
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: to like some of these other quarterbacks you're watching. Well,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: still way better than the guy they rolled out in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Oregon's defense is good. They have so many good players.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I do think that game is gonna be a little harder.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are just gonna hammer Indiana,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: which I don't think is crazy to'll totally understand. I
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: could just see this is a pretty you know, Dan Lannings,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: king of like the raw Ros Beaches, a lot of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: those are as, he's a big favorite. It's like, damn,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: he's pulling some crazy like kind of lines out and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he's typically like a lot of these games, they're enormous
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: favorites over the big ten. When he's going viral this one,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be like a true underdog. Now everyone's gonna
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: pick Indiana. It's actually a pretty good spot for kind
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of his vibe. You know, because even this game for Signetti,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: these questions, he's gonna So my point is I'm probably
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: gonna take Indiana at the points I don't feel great
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: about it though, Like I think a lot of people
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: are gonna sleep on Oregon in this moment. I think
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get out for this shit. Signetti kind of
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: got to play the underdog against Bama. You see the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: questions like what do you think about the Bama mystique?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: He's He's gonna be getting asked the opposite this week,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: like are you guys gonna win national championship? Do you think
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: he can really win the national championship? The ViBe's gonna shift,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and that's where I think Dan Lanning this is right
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: up his alley, in his raw rock kind of style.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So I again, I'm probably gonna take Indiana just because
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I'm blown away by how good they are. I think
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are just gonna sleep on Oregon
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: just because their games the last two weeks have been
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a little weird.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And then you have the flip side where they say, oh,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: it's hard to beat a team twice. I'm gonna go
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Oregon where yeah it is. And I think Dante Moore
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: has played a lot better since that first game where
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: they had a ton of pressure on him, and I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: think the offensive line for the most part in the
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: second half Bailey in Hunter and Height didn't really have
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: many sacks, and some of those that Dante more wasn't
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: even aware where they were. He kind of ran into
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: him both times there. But I'm gonna be real curious
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: how that offensive line does against that front for Indiana,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: because even though they don't pressure a ton, it just
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: seems like they're really good at at making the pocket
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: super collapse for him.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, and I mean I don't know.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I would lean Indiana as well too with you just
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: based on the fact that offensively, I don't know how
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to stop them if they don't
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: to run the ball and they get the play action
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: game with those three wide receivers. Even though Brandon Finnie junior,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: you know, the freshman, he had a really good game today.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I just one big, one big advantage for Indiana is
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, no one interviews their assistant coaches, so
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: their coordinators just stay at Indiana and get big contracts,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and no one talks to him.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: His two coordinators who are still calling the offense of
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the defense are head coach to other places, which I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: would imagine especially Kentucky. These next forty eight hours are
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna have a lot going on. You know. Now,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: it's a little easier for both guys because they're game
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: planning against a team that they've already played, so it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: not like an It's this isn't will miss Miami, where
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it's completely fresh. That's just a lot on those two guys.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I think running programs for the first time. Both of
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: them next year are gonna want especially Tosh is gonna
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: want to be compete for like the ACC and he's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a recruiter. So I just I just think there's gonna
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: be a lot going on for those two codes. This
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: is a counterpoint to me saying don't sleep on Oregon.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on those two coaches because both
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: these games are in a week now, ones on Thursday,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: ones on Friday, So this isn't one of those where
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you get fifteen day break and you got more time.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's why my theory that I expect the LSU coaches
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to get I don't want to say fired, but just
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: told like you can just go to LSU now we're good,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: just because I think now it's the time to break
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Dan Landry's not gonna do that with these guys. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: how are they gonna have time to sleep because they're
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be constantly trying to do transfer portal stuff, which
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame them because they have to build a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: program for twenty six. So I maybe I feel a
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: little bit better about Indiana minus. I'd probably like Indiana.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Minus two and a half, like a field goal four
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: is a weird Four is a kind of my awkward number.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking how high I would go. Maybe I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: just go to seven. They do blow out a lot
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: of people. They do blow out a lot of people
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: over the flip side and a half. What's the in
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Miami minus three? I maybe I'm just a prisoner of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the moment, but I kind of feel like Miami's on
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a mission right now. And you watch Mario after that game,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the one thing Mario kind of gets labeled
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: is like this meathead offensive lineman. I think he's a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: pretty buttoned up guy, Like he's a pretty serious cat.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: And I had a buddy who works in college football
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: who was offered a job by him. He was at
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a My buddy was at a good place too, turned
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it down because he's like, you know, I'm really close
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: to my head coach. We're winning, Mario's gonna give me
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a raise. But I've heard Mario is like Belichick, you like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's at the offense like twenty hours, like
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: it's he's a grinder. He's pretty intense, and maybe that's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: why in some of those moments he's just like too
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: tight in the end of game and why he's now.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You could argue, just bro just kneel the ball, but
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think Miami would have a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: good shot if they handle business against Ole Miss to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: win the national championship against Indiana because physically they would
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be able to hang. I mean, they're two tackles. My
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: guess is combined weight would be close to six eighty
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: seven hundred. One guy looks like he wists a hundred
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: fifty pounds. The right tackle. Yeah, he's gonna go to
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the left ten the left tackle. They are massive to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. The irony about their defensive line is bain.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: When you talk to the scouts, you know, he's not
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: that tall. He's like six to one and he's got
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: short arms, but you watch him play, it looks like
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: he's Miles Garrett out there, Ben in the edge pushing guys.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He was of all the players that we have now mentioned,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: he was the best player on the field in that game.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: He was dominant and his buddy, the Canadian dude, wasn't
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: bad either.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like in Miami and compared to like Week
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: one against Notre Dame, they threw the ball a ton
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: They were trying to throw a bunch of explosive plays
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: get their guy Tony involved. It seems like in the playoff,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Mario Crystaball and just kind of symboled everything down.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna we're gonna run
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: the clock, control the time and possession. And even Carson
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: back too. Where not a lot of people like Carson Beck, right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: he's a little cocky, he's got an ego, paid a
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: lot of money, dated the cavender. They broke up because
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: he cheated on Latina whatever. But he is taking care
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: of the football. He hasn't turned the ball over. Oh
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: my gosh, it looks like sid from ice age. He's disgusting.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: We'll see him here in Glendell.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: He was he kind of in my respect, I thought
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he played like a badass. The so you know, A
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: and M throughout the year can be a high scoring operation,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: right with the wide receivers and obviously Ohio State like
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: they did not want to get into like a game
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like tonight, so they are much more comfortable. What was
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the final score? Notre Dame, low scoring game. Right. They
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: want a game that is on their terms. They want
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to play. Shanahan has won a lot of playoff games
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: like this, ugly up play defense, run the ball, slow
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: it down. They I think Ohio State, I think I
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: like had eight or nine possessions, like they don't want
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to play. I don't know how many Georgian Ole misshad,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but it felt like they had eight or nine possessions
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: in the second half each, you know, so that they
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: which is smart, which you get credit for as a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: head coach, and I think it's coordinators. Some of those
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: play calls on third down and the fourth down catch
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: did they ran to Tony on They got him on
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that one on one and like they had like three
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: wide receivers and he was the guy on the back
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: so they couldn't press him like that was a high
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: level play. The one they ran some really good plays
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: last night. I thought in key spots, the.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: One the Fletcher when they had the extra offensive lineman
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: and you thought they were gonna run it and he
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: kind of skirts out to the left side because they
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: only have two guys out there. Just throw it to
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: him quick and they score. I agree Kennon Dawson and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: then the defensive coordinator from Minnesota that they got too.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I just I think Miss.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I think Miami's defense, if if Lacey's gonna fumble like
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: that against Georgia, you already know they're gonna have that
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: game plan against Lacy. In this offense where the ball
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: looked a pre a little skinch, a little loosey goosey
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: out there, I just think they're gonna force the turnover too.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: And you saw in that game against Miami, once they
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: get that lead and they control the clock like that
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: for a high paced offense and Ole miss like especially
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: how quick they score, I think he's gonna try to
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: hold the ball for like thirty thirty five forty minutes
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: in that game and just try to just run him
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: down in the trenches.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's got a They were mentioned not
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast, you know, all the whole Miami staffs wise,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: he's got a bad left shoulder. He can't you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: he lowered his right shoulder, ran over the one, dude,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: but the left shoulder, clearly the grip pressure on it
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't as strong whatever. It wasn't like it was that
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: crazy of a play for the ball to come out.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: But he's a pretty good player. I mean, he's he's
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: really good. Maybe maybe that game would be better than
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I think my lean would be. I feel like Miami
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: overwhelms them a little bit, and I feel this was
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: not Nolan Smith and na Kobe Dean and Jalen Carter,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like they're just not as good as the guy's chasing them.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: And they had some injuries tonight, you know, with their
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: front seven guys. I feel like Miami's gonna hawk Trinidad
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. Not that Trinidads like can't get
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: away from, but there are gonna be a couple of
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: plays where he was doing some like old school Tony
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Rono Donovan McNabb, like running back and forth like you
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: could get killed against, like legitimately killed.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially got them on both sides like you got
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: band running the right, you're gonna roll back left and
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: get hit by Mesador. I do think the one advantage though,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: that Ole Miss has You see their kicker tonight, fifty
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: five yard fifty six yard kick, Like I think that's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: one thing in college football, the portal kickers value after
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: this playoff for the entire back end of the season
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: is skyrocketed. That guy was from Western Kentucky. It's it's unbelievable,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: like college kickers. We're gonna see that next week. And
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: and Miami has had a bad kicker even though games
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: they don't look better. Yeah, indoors will be a lot
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: better than that win against an m But.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Lastly, two shatout hard rock.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Bet the odds right now for the national champion Indiana
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: plus one thirty five Oregon in Miami plus three hundred
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: and Ole Miss plus five fifty. I think at the
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: beginning of the playoff it was two lane Jami obviously,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: and I think it was Miami Ole Miss. I want
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: to say plus ten thousand, which is insane the fact
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that these odds have gone so down. But based on
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: what you've said, I'm assuming you're going Indiana Miami. Indiana
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: is gonna win it all plus one thirty five.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you were gonna bet this, you
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: would bet Miami would be the bet because if they
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: were to win that game and play Indiana, they'd probably
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: be like, what would your guess on that line be
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Indiana by four maybe three? You know, Indiana be favored,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: but Miami would not be like a plus you know,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: two to one underdog money line to win that game.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: So you probably take them right now plus three hundred
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: or just put all your ships in the middle table
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: in Indiana. Now again, I I do think Oregon, you know,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: i'd below. I didn't even watch the two lane game
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: because the NFL was on. But today I thought I
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: thought Dante like there were point times like he's like
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: trying to almost prove like he's some superstar. I don't know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: he was just a little out of whack, out of rhythm,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: then kind of started forcing it. I just never thought
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: he could get like a Now, part of that's their
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: defense is good, right, I mean their D line. They
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: had a couple of plays where it was like Jesus,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: these guys, no wonder they paid all this money. They
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: need to now invest in a quarterback and if I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't an IL agent for the top quarterbacks. They have
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: been blowing up Joey McGuire's phone. I mean the quarterback.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: If you told me that Texas Tech has the highest
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: paid quarterback in the country, I do think it's believable
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: because I don't even know who would be considered the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: top quarterback. But let's just say there's they're competing for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: two or three of them. It's just gonna drive the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: price up. They're gonna end up with one of the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: top guys in the portal for sure. That's who knows.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe a guy, maybe a guy they tamper and a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: guy comes out that you don't even see coming right
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: because you could enter. You don't have to have already entered,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: like the portal opens now, like you can throw your
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: name in tomorrow if you want.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: That's where I what I was talking about with Texas
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Tech in their defensive line, where you gotta be pretty
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: frustrated if you're the Boosters, especially you're six to zero
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: at halftime and the defensive line you spent all that money,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: they're not coming and they're not coming back though, Like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: those three guys are not coming back. So it's like, well, shit,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: like we gotta go and buy more and three more
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: defensive linemen and get a guy for ten million dollars.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Some guys that are gonna be just just some names
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: for people out there, because I know you love free
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: agency in the NFL, like I love the portal, Like
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the portal is like college football free agency, and I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: know people are like, oh, they're gonna go chase money,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: like just going to get a bag.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: It brings more drama to the sport. Sam Levit out
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: of Arizona State, DJ Lagway Brendan Sooresby out of Cincinnati
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: has been rumored because his girlfriend committed there for volleyball
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. He's pretty talented, but we'll see
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: if he goes to the draft. Josh Hoover Rayola and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: then Drew Mestamaker will probably follow Eric Morris at Oklahoma State.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna probably go somewhere else. Levitt
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: is a good get, a good example.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: They've played him or they know him because of the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: conference beat him Acrosstate for a couple of years. I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: think that like they will be all over again like that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: And if they had Sam a healthy Sam Levitt today
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they ultimately win the game,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: but the game does not feel like it felt through
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the first couple court before it became a blowout in
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, like they were right there. Their quarterback
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: was terrible, atrocious, their offense was terrible. One play the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: running back made the one sweet play where he juked
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the two guys out in the reverse field, but other
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: than that, they couldn't move the ball. It was like,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: this is this is a terrible television product. Guys like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: what what? And it's not like Oregon was doing great either,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: but the yeah, I mean, I I would expect them
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: to Sam Levitt, he's gonna get a lot of money,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: but some of these guys like what's his name from
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma last year that went to Auburn, Like a lot
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: of guys get a lot of money and don't do shit,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people that, you know, guys that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: people make fun of. I mean, this happened probably more
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, like when Bo Nicks and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel will go on and like crush it. So
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you know, that's it's kind of weird with the quarterbacks.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at Trinidad, so I just let's say
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: DJ Lagway signed somewhere. Everybody's like DJ Lagway. You know,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: look at look at a Nico in that situation. I mean,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: he actually was had a pretty good, like four game
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: stretch for UCLA, but they won three games. You know, again,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: the first four games probably not his fault. If Tim
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: skipperd coached the whole year, maybe they're like five and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: seven or six and six. But I mean, you just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes because these quarterbacks are really famous, Like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: wherever Dylan Ryola goes is gonna be a huge headline.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: If I tell you Dylan Ryola is at Tennessee, let's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: use that as example. I don't know if that's gonna happen.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw that out there with a shock.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: You next year they went like seven to five or
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: eight and four. You know, it's not like just because
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not like you get them. You're guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: to you know, to dominate. So I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's it's kind of getting late. I know. We wanted
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  Speaker 1: to hit on one more thing that. Dan Lanning kind
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  Speaker 1: of went on this rant about the the schedule and
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  Speaker 1: how college football belongs on Saturdays. And basically, you know,
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  Speaker 1: once December hits in, the NFL starts taking the Saturday games.
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  Speaker 1: And he's big on like, we don't need these big
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  Speaker 1: breaks just the season ends. If we got to start
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  Speaker 1: week zero, everyone plays week's zero. Whenever this conference championship ends,
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  Speaker 1: you start playing the playoffs the following week. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't disagree with him on that, because that's what D
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  Speaker 1: one DOUBLEA does, even though I think they do a
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  Speaker 1: two week break for the finals, right, because there is yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think Nashville's is this upcoming Monday, But no one
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  Speaker 1: would even complain about that. There's these huge breaks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when's the last time Texas Tech or you know, Indiana
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  Speaker 1: played a game, or Ohio State. It was like a
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  Speaker 1: month ago, right, So I agree with him on that.
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  Speaker 1: The thing I don't and listen, I know he's not
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it like this. Many variables the television networks
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  Speaker 1: like ESPN who has NFL games during December, CBS and
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  Speaker 1: Fox who have games during December. They also pay a
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  Speaker 1: lot for college football. They like the NFL games on
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  Speaker 1: during the December games they do. You know, ESPN has
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  Speaker 1: a game this Saturday, right, Seattle versus forty nine Ers,
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  Speaker 1: forty million people are gonna watch. I forget some of
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  Speaker 1: the games. There a good game a couple of weeks ago. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was like Bear's Packers I think was on Fox.
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  Speaker 1: It was Tom Brady on a Saturday night. Like thirty
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  Speaker 1: million people watch these games. So it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even disagree with day Lanning, but the people he's in
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  Speaker 1: business with that pay all the money for all this,
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  Speaker 1: like they're part of the Roger Goodell gets blamed for everything.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not like Netflix or Amazon doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do these deals on Christmas or on Black Friday or
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  Speaker 1: on some random December Saturday. That's where I think it's
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  Speaker 1: not even plausible because these Fox is never gonna like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, day Laney, let's just do a big ten game. No,
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  Speaker 1: they want to do Eagles Packers on a Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of December. That's why it's probably not
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: I do think though, I mean the home field playoff games.
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  Speaker 2: I think you have to have some at night, you
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  Speaker 2: have to have some during the day. But these neutral
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  Speaker 2: side games, I don't think it's a big deal that
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  Speaker 2: you play them at ten am or one pm and
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  Speaker 2: you give the NFL the afternoon, Like, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that that's a big deal in terms of the college
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  Speaker 2: football perspective to get the most viewership. And I think
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  Speaker 2: on top of that, like I don't people want bull
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  Speaker 2: games to go get rid of. You put those during
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: the week USC was awesome to watch the Pop Dart
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  Speaker 2: Bowl the Citrus Bowl with Arch Manning, Like, have those
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  Speaker 2: filled during the week and have your CFP games on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. Like, I just don't think these neutral site games,
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  Speaker 2: especially when they're all in door, it's it's like it's
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  Speaker 2: not a big deal if it's at night versus during
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  Speaker 2: the day, if that makes sense. And I also think
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  Speaker 2: on top of that, like if this does go to
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  Speaker 2: a sixteen team playoff, you know T and T, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're probably in the bad bargain of the deal. They're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna want a group of five team as their
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  Speaker 2: college football team that night, especially going up against the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Even though it's not comparable three million to forty million,
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  Speaker 2: I mean twenty million, ten million compared to forty millions,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: better than watching JMU get born out against Oregon. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it just makes sense. I would love to
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  Speaker 2: see the season start earlier and then have the portal
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: be in January. I just I think the schedule. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: they can figure it out. I don't even know who
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: you talk to the NC double A. They're probably just
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: still sleeping. So it's like, we're not gonna get this
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  Speaker 2: figured out until another couple of years. Anyways, it's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: Wrong on the morning college football, Fox's biggest game is
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: a nine am West Coast kickoff, and it crushes. It
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: is dominated for them now a lot of that's Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State and Michigan, but it's it works. I also think
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  Speaker 1: one change clearly is we need more home college football games.
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  Speaker 1: We need more home college football games.
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  Speaker 2: That's where it's like, if you do have a first
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  Speaker 2: round by like give them at least the home field
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  Speaker 2: playoff in Vain.
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  Speaker 1: That's where they get screwed. That's where so this team
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  Speaker 1: has all this momentum coming a lot of I mean,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I guess Miami was on the road, but then Texas,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Texas just sitting there in Miami, you know, it's like
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, yeah that was that
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  Speaker 1: was a weird vibe. That was That would have been
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: way cooler at Tech because we saw earlier this year
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: when they hosted was it Utah or b Yu It
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. I remember watching like this place is sick.
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  Speaker 1: Remember Game Day was there like this badass and they
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: gotta go to Miami in front of you know, half
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: the pa sex for working to travel. Well, they're probably
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: thinking like, hey, we'll just hold out to the final
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: four hopefully, which I don't blame them, but I'm with you.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: We got a lot to figure out, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think we're remotely close to figuring any of it out.
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  Speaker 1: But at least that Thanks for hopping on with me tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's been a long couple days, but one to night.
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  Speaker 1: That was That was sweet. That was sweet. That was
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  Speaker 1: a good That was a good cap to the to
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  Speaker 1: the start of the new year.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, happy twenty twenty six. Happy portal season. Everybody get
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: excited the portal comes up. I know people get so frustrated,
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  Speaker 2: but no, it's always great talking college football. We'll get
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the sport figured out. Everyone's got to relax. The sport's great.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: He's got to figure it out. But tonight, enjoy Ole,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Indiana, Miami and Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Did you cut the social that
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: said that Arch Manning back like three months ago, that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning wasn't an NFL player. I said it, but
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: we posted it. I think, so yeah, that thing has
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: gotten found. I think in the University Texas message boards
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: or something. I am getting attacked from all angles and listen,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I said what I said. I think when stuff like
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: that happens, I don't even know if people are paying
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: attention to the date. Not that anyone cares, but they,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the Texas contingent of fans on social media, are are
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: not happy that I said Arch was not a draftable player. Again,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that was early in the season and he was playing terribly.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: He's turned it around. He's definitely turned it around. He's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: on the he's on that, he's on the come up.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: He did hey, in fairness to me, they spent twenty
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: five million dollars and they were out of playoff contention
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: in October. He also had to take a pay cut.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: So in the world I'm in and in pro football
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: we take a pay cut usually something's going wrong. Again,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not an Arch Manning hater. I didn't believe when
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I said that he was playing terribly. He has definitely
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: turned it around, is coming in the right direction, and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: he's got like a I'll end it on this, like
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you watch Gunner Stockton and he feels like the toughest
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: player called arch is tough as shit. I mean he
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: gets destroyed, he's injured. I still think his arm can
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: be a little hit or miss, but he's definitely really athletic.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got more accurate, feels much more comfortable passing.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: He's improved a lot. Which red shirt sophomore. He has
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: been there a couple of years.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you have two more years. I just think
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: his confidence. I think that's all came down. It was
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: his confidence. Just looking at the social media and stuff,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: and one little nugget in on my Texas cam Coleman
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: out of Auburn. Not a lot of people know about him.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: He's a top receiver. He just dealt with Jackson Arnold
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: and Peyton Thorn in the last couple of years. Texas
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: is making a push for him. I think if he
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: has him at the number one wide receiver, watch over
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: texts next year, man, I think he needs that go
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: to receiver.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: To help him out. Jeremiah Smith to Miami. You see
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: that gain interaction. They were doing a lot of long
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: hugs last night.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I know if you would have saw the video, you'd
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: have been like, oh, Jeremiah Smith, they won, like Ohio
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: State won that football game, but no, they lost, and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: he's smiling with his old buddies at Miami.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: But he grew up with all those guys, right, Yeah,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I could see Mario. You know it's one of those. Well,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: there was a game earlier this year. Oh it is
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the Kaalin dubor when the dude was trying to hug
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: his backup quarterback and he grabbed him. You know, if
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I was Ryan Day, I would have I would have
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: grabbed him. But hey, when you get your ass kicked,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: you know, by Miami as a nine and a half
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: point favorite, you kind of got to run in the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: locker room. But hey, he's a defending champ. Uh not anymore? Okay, Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: good night, and uh I will talk to you soon, buddy.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: See New Year. The volume