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EP175 - The Hunger Games - Catching Fire · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, how about a little
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  Speaker 1: about that?
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  Speaker 2: Do or like I think the step Nick is doing
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  Speaker 2: the floor turn Nick as he's really nice back, so
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  Speaker 2: the floor is getting getting hen.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's nice and the next to.
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  Speaker 4: The bathroom gees or maybe just be back who knows who?
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  Speaker 3: I mean? I have much question you guys, but that's true,
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  Speaker 3: and I do really like being able to see Walter.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be tying that.
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  Speaker 3: Help everyone, and Thirsty for a water? Where we started, Well,
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  Speaker 3: it is recording.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's recording.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome to Hungry Hungry for More. I'm your host Alex
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  Speaker 5: and I'm your host Malenko.
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  Speaker 3: And today we have another special guest co host for
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  Speaker 3: Hungry for More. Today we're doing twenty thirteen's Hunger Games
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  Speaker 3: Catching Fire. I gotta say, I gotta say, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited to talk about this. Yes, it's I
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  Speaker 3: think it's the It's it's definitely the Terminator two of
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  Speaker 3: Hunger Games. Of Hunger Games, definitely the Terminator two. It's
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  Speaker 3: definitely the Terminator two of Hunger Games.
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  Speaker 1: Or you can do Combination and.
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  Speaker 3: Part three Slash four is definitely the Terminator Dark Fate.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Have you seen them.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen them all the prequel I haven't seen them.
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  Speaker 2: Are you finished?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why that ruins my fantasy.
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  Speaker 5: I knew that I wouldn't want you to finish it,
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  Speaker 5: yet I wanted she wanted you to wait.
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  Speaker 3: You should have told me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I just felt it was nice
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  Speaker 2: that you were watching the movies, like we were kind
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  Speaker 2: of like reveal yourself who came first or the egg.
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  Speaker 2: It was revealing, you know, like a revealing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is Leil kept wanting to watch them.
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  Speaker 3: She just kept was like, wow, I mean, I gotta
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  Speaker 3: watch And we've started watching the bar immediate when we
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  Speaker 3: got home from when we watched the third one, the
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  Speaker 3: second one here, So it was like, okay, watch it.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I felt them are.
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  Speaker 3: Still you're still gonna I'm still gonna be okay because
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty groggy when I watch those other two, So
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be watching because they're like we watch them immediately,
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: we watch the next one, and then we watch the
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  Speaker 3: next one after that the day after that, so it
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  Speaker 3: was like, you know, it's still pretty like I still
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  Speaker 3: gotta watch it again.
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  Speaker 5: That experience is a little bit of a like kind
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  Speaker 5: of like a tired experience because you're like it's satisfying
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  Speaker 5: because you like finish the story and you get all
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  Speaker 5: the lore. But then you're like, oh, man, I wish
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  Speaker 5: I hadn't got so much Laurel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like also like I don't like you know me,
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  Speaker 3: I don't like doing I don't watch shows like that.
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  Speaker 3: Why would I watch movies like that? Here? Though, I
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: watch three different movies in one night. But I'm not like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a guy who's gonna like, oh, I want
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  Speaker 3: to watch The Lord of the Rings.
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  Speaker 5: Something that has too much lore is a little tiresome.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, it needs to be spaced out, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because you.
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  Speaker 3: Got to think about stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it depends on the the is the thing. Like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like when I binge watched it the first time,
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing, I fucking loved it, and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: now that I'm watching them one by one, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting.
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  Speaker 3: To see some crags totally, but also like.
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  Speaker 5: Like watching it analytically too, I think.
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  Speaker 3: But but you need you like when you're sick and
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  Speaker 3: like at an opera, you're like I'm chilling at home
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, like that's a perfect opportunity to consume lore.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas for me, it's like, well, I gotta drive Leal
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  Speaker 3: to work, and you know it's like why you bea
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  Speaker 3: is Yeah, yeah, me too. Well, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: gotta drive Leal to work. I gotta drive to work,
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  Speaker 3: but I had to work Mark, Mark Like, fuck you man,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna report you to have me promoter in this country.
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk.
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  Speaker 4: What are you the guy?
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  Speaker 2: What's important is that we got to All Stars, all winners.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, All Stars winners.
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  Speaker 7: This season is it's come on season six, Let's get
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  Speaker 7: sick naic. Yeah, this is definitely this is definitely the
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  Speaker 7: glow up.
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  Speaker 5: This is definitely when everyone started producing themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly honestly, like, I don't and I don't mean to you.
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  Speaker 3: You were right in terms of this one makes me
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  Speaker 3: like the first one more, but I don't need the
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  Speaker 3: first one to like this. This one is a very
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  Speaker 3: enjoyable sequel in the sense that, like, I get exactly
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  Speaker 3: all of the stuff that like catches you up, and
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  Speaker 3: also there's lots of heart and lots more. And also
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: you guys are so right about Peta. Oh dude, don't
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  Speaker 3: you love Pea especially thin. I know our jacked No,
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  Speaker 3: this is more Jagie, but oh after okay, yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: We'll talk about it. What's cool about this one is
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of like it it's not meant to stand alone, right,
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  Speaker 5: Like it ends on a cliffhanger.
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  Speaker 3: It ends on a cliffhanger, which is annoying. I don't
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  Speaker 3: really like movies like that. But it's it's like.
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  Speaker 5: They already knew though that they would have the lore.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing. They already knew they had the lore,
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  Speaker 3: and like, man, the budget. They use the budget really well,
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  Speaker 3: and they updated and upgraded everything really well, like everything
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  Speaker 3: looks better and less low budget.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a redo All Stars, all winners. Literally yeah,
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  Speaker 2: everyone got siligone in their lips and face. They just
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  Speaker 2: are like better, and let's do this again, this time better.
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  Speaker 5: And they're like like amped up ship, like you got
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  Speaker 5: like fucking Phillipsymore Hoppin who immediately brings like this like
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  Speaker 5: weird sexual charge like every single he just walks in
• 7:12
  Speaker 5: and listen, listen, I'm breathing heavily around you.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Heroin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah if I said that, and I laughed. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I didn't laugh at it, like it would be like
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't laugh at it. Why is that funny? Why
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: is that funny? Why is it funny?
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  Speaker 2: I mean because that Heroin is making him hot and
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: thirsty for everyone. Like that's what I was referencing. Oh,
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: what did you think that he's heavy breathing.
• 7:43
  Speaker 5: But he's heavy breathing problems Heroin related somehow?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just trying.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to put Heroin in, but it was
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  Speaker 2: more it.
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  Speaker 8: Was more about the sexually charged energy what like just
• 8:00
  Speaker 8: even in the first scene when they're they're hunting like
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  Speaker 8: Cannice and.
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  Speaker 3: And Hemsworth, Yes, where where everything is like less.
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  Speaker 5: Shaky cam totally where it's like they dialed down.
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  Speaker 3: Shaky cam and it was the right amount. It definitely
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  Speaker 3: much more like but then like it.
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  Speaker 5: Was definitely much more twenty thirteen than twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I think the most iconic moment about that first scene
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  Speaker 2: is her scarf.
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  Speaker 3: That like, oh, the yeah fashion moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gray, it like goes under one shoulder. I don't
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: you don't know if is it a sweather, is it
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  Speaker 2: a jacket.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's like a functional element too, that she
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  Speaker 5: can maybe carry things in it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just for warmth, but it looks incredible and
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: then when you google it, of course you can buy it. Also,
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  Speaker 2: even better, you can find a pat Into crochet, which
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: Are you.
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  Speaker 1: Are you?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to crochet something?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: But also like you know, having post traumatic stress disorder
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  Speaker 3: from the games.
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  Speaker 5: And like her reaction. Man, Like sometimes I've just been
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  Speaker 5: thinking about it like annoyed lately at just I feel
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  Speaker 5: like sometimes when women give performances like this, it's not
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  Speaker 5: as recognized as when dudes do it. And I feel
• 9:37
  Speaker 5: like because it's like a y A movie and might
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  Speaker 5: like have like not as much like Clout or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But she's really fucking good in this scene. Like she's
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  Speaker 5: really really good flexing herd. It's not like just like
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  Speaker 5: it's real real acting, Like she's like totally dialed into
• 9:52
  Speaker 5: the performance and like her her sort of like like
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  Speaker 5: the the vacance see in her eyes when she's like
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  Speaker 5: just like totally terrified.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty amazing and I'm hunting turkeys trauma, dude.
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  Speaker 3: But also like the town's the like like town they
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  Speaker 3: go to that's like their town. You see a lot
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  Speaker 3: more of it, right, So it's like you see scale
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  Speaker 3: in this one that you didn't see in the first one,
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  Speaker 3: which also like, I mean, I can appreciate the first
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  Speaker 3: one because it's like, oh, we're letting you know that
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  Speaker 3: some there is a world out there, but it also
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: feels like they were hiding a lot of it because
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: they it was like budget right, kind of feels expendables
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  Speaker 3: sometimes budgets, but.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: A few houses. But I like that that. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: they introduced us to the to the Borta of this world,
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  Speaker 2: which is like the area where you have like fancy
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  Speaker 2: houses even though it's in District twelve and that's just
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  Speaker 2: for winners.
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  Speaker 3: Totally.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well they kind of want to like make the
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  Speaker 5: world a little more nuanced, right, Like Peta and Cat
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  Speaker 5: and is now live in a nicer place slightly into twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Dis looks like a set. No one seems to.
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  Speaker 3: Go there, they're there. Yeah, it looks like houses that
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  Speaker 3: used to be for rich people that were abandoned, that
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  Speaker 3: were just made given.
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  Speaker 5: Does have that where it's like a classic but run down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, like the expensive houses in Toronto that look
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  Speaker 3: like like here where it's like this is a million
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  Speaker 3: dollars to me.
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  Speaker 2: More, it more looked like, you know, like a prototype
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  Speaker 2: houses that were built but never used exactly. They're like
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: new they have never immediately thought of that too. We
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  Speaker 2: also get to see the cat that she wanted to cook.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, it's not the same cat. It's not even
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  Speaker 2: the same color in the first movie. It's a black
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: and white cat. Now it's a it's a roll.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: I noticed.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's literally a breed of cats that they're just called
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: ron problem.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: They all look like they're just called.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I bet you if you google that a
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: specific comes up enough people have searched it that oh.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so common knowledge.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: Canus and Peta go to uh.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Hamage, who is also a winner from Sector twelve, which
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: means they all live across from each other.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: Heavily breathing, He's like, oh wait, hey, guys, but he
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  Speaker 5: I thought he lived in I thought he was from
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  Speaker 5: Sector thirteen and that just doesn't exist anymore, right, Oh nuke.
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  Speaker 3: The like they did.
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  Speaker 2: They did, But no, but I thought he was their
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: mentor because he's from you.
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  Speaker 3: No, he's a.
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  Speaker 5: District twelve winners. He for sure is a district which made.
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  Speaker 2: Me feel like weird because like they meet him and everything,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, wouldn't you know him if he lived
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  Speaker 2: in the same village as you did, Like maybe he.
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  Speaker 3: Lived in the Yeah that's true.
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: Well he but he seems like an alcoholic shut in
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: right like and then and also.
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  Speaker 3: Here he won years ago, didn't he? He did, And
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  Speaker 3: that's why that's why they before they were born.
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: Well, that's why they re enter him this time because
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, when they do All Stars, All winners, yea,
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  Speaker 5: they have a bigger pool to choose from of the winners,
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  Speaker 5: some of which are old. And in this town, in
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  Speaker 5: the district twelve, the only winners that they've they have
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  Speaker 5: that are living are Peta Catness and fucking Hamage.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, I know him every which way.
• 13:48
  Speaker 9: Dangerous compared to what the Bubonic played.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: He's bad enough. You call me and they're supposed to
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: do an interview in an hour for now, you're supposed
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: to an interview? Can you do I was trying to do?
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: That was pretty good. That was good, That was on
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  Speaker 3: the right track. Can you try? Can I hear you?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it was too breathy now and maybe
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: a little too panicked.
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  Speaker 3: That was pretty good. It's it's all in this sort
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: of you have to bring you where the teeth are.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Counted, the floors this building from the street, and there's
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  Speaker 2: one listen.
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  Speaker 3: We'll look into it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he sounds so much like his brother and
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: looks so much like his brother, Matthew.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Got how did you know you list? You know that
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: theory on it? Right?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, isn't that a theory? They actually
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: confirmed that with some kind of.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I think that part might have been
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: a rumor, but there's still a possibility that they have
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: the same dad.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I thought, And from what I remember
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: reading ship is that they actually did that, and they
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: are related and it's crazy family dynamics, and.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: They're both happened to become famous, same kind of famous,
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: scud like, same level of success.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and also being in so many things together,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, and veg amazing, both both of them being incredible,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: speaking of being incredible, Schuyler speaking of being incredible. Snow
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: in this scene, dude, where he's just like rubbaging through
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Cadness's desk and he's like just away I'm fucking here,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: and she's like, I could see that.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: Aggressively appreciate. I appreciate to a degree, like how much
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: she held her shit together because she's cool in the moment,
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: but she knows that this guy is like somebody who's
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: has so much power over her.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she's scared shitless. But what I like
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: about their dynamic is even though you know, when you
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: live in a world when everyone's lying to everyone, they
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: don't bullshit each other.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Which is what he says. Yeah, totally don't bullshit me.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Like he doesn't say that, but because it's PG.
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  Speaker 3: Thirteen, such spirit, such contempt, What an honor.
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  Speaker 9: My dear. I think we can make this so much
• 16:42
  Speaker 9: simpler if we agree not to lie to each other.
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: What do you think?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that would save time.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Sit down, please, there's a sort of honesty in their
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: relationship that I really appreciate absolutely.
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 5: What does he say, Well, how does this scene play out?
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  Speaker 9: Again?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: He basically frames it as though he has a problem
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: that needs fixing. I have a problem?
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: Is everything a problem that began the moment you revealed
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: those poison berries in the arena? I that hey, game maker,
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: Seneca Crane had had any brains at all, he would
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: have blown you to bits then and there. But here
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: you are, I expect you can guess where he is.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think so.
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: After that fiasco, there was nothing left to do but
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: to let you play out your little scenario. And you
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: were very good. That whole love craze besotted schoolgirl routine. Impressive. Truly,
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: you convince the people in the Capitol. Unfortunately, not everyone
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: in the districts fell for it. I mean, you can't
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: know this, but in several of them people viewed your
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: little trick with the berries as an act of defiance,
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: not as an act of love. And if a girl
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: from District twelve, of all places, can defy the Capitol
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: and walk away unharmed, what is to prevent them from
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: doing the same? What is to prevent say, and uprising? Uh?
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And that she is the one and she because they
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: know they seem to know each other very well in
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: terms of how the dynamics of propaganda are working in
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: both of their viewpoints. He's like make he makes veiled
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: threats in the sense that he'll just be like, well,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you know, the poison berries we found that that you
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: revealed made me kill the last game master or whatever.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: He's prey straight forward with her. He's like, uh, that
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: guy was an idiot, and it was it was a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: stupid stunt that you pulled, and he made a wrong choice.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: If I made the choice, I would have let you die,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: both of you, basically saying.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Like, you've now created a problem.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, you have created a problem because because people have
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: interpreted your bury thing as a revolt rather than a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: love story like oh.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: We just didn't want to and everybody, oh my god.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: The best part about this movie is the look that
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: everyone gives Catnus of of like this look at me, dude,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: of like you know, you know, dude, what you did.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: It's that kind of look of like you know what
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: you did, you know what you're doing, don't lie to me.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of like a righteous like no,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I know what you're doing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I know what you Well, she was doing it with
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the three fingers, she was doing the.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Nationalistic symbols, but she a lot got attributed to her
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: that not necessarily that she wanted.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I have to say that. That's the My issue with
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: watching it the second time is how it was how
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they made her like a pawn in everyone's game, Like
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: she wasn't actually anything, she didn't want anything. Yeah, she
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: was just and that really disappointed me.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: It's it robs her of her it robs her of
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: her agency. But I think that's also what makes it
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: dramatically interesting.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But I know, I know, but when the first time
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I watched it in the first movie, and how it started,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: like she has the power because she has the humanity,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: she sees the things. She's honest and full of integrity
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and whatever, you know, Like she's this big symbol that
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: she's supposed to become. But then as the story of
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: als like.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: It kind of has to revert to that because it
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: has to take her on the hero's journey again. But
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: this is only showing us part of the reluctant hero's journey.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: So like first this is basically only like the first
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: two acts of a hero's journey, and then the rest
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: of the movies kind of continue that arc. But she's
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: kind of like broken Catnus at this point. We see
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: her despondent. We believe it because she's traumatized from the war,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: from or from the from the games. She's come out
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: killed a lot of people. I think it's dramatically interesting.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, of course it is. She's stuck. She can't
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: do anything. She can't Yeah, she literally has no options
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and she is upon in this game. I understand that,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: but I don't know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I do agree there there. I did notice that she's
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: being led around in the in a in a similar
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: way actually to Indy Indiana Jones has this quote a problem,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: where like Samany Jenkins had the same problem. But yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: part part of it is that a lot of the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the movie is, Yeah, she's being pulled around, which like
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: works to some degree what you're with, what you're saying,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: because she has to build up motivation to do this
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: thing again and become the reluctant hero.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like she's she's becoming the Catenist that you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: like that everyone's kind of built up in this lore.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Like it's kind of like the movie doesn't want us
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: to believe in the myth of the Catenus. It wants
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: us to go on the journey with her. I think,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, I.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Was so into I was into the law. I was
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: into the revolution. Like I was disappointed how not into
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the revolution she was.
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I mean that's the thing too, is that like, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: she's also got people that she's got to defend and protect.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: That's the right thing is I think she's always being
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: pulled between her family and her principles, because you can
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: tell that these are her principles, but only by default.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I think she's way more just like you know what,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: like I just want to take care of mine. We
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: get very libertarian catiness like off the grid once again.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: She wants to be off.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: The grid exactly. She just wants to have her own
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: source of power electricity. You know, well, yeah, she doesn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: want to pay taxes.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Power.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she totally doesn't want to pay taxes, and she's
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: investing in wind.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: That this line, at what point did you realize the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: depth of your indifference towards him referring to pizza. It's
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: like a brutal line, dude, Like it's.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Also it's also not true, and it kind of shows
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: President Snow's limitation in this scene because he's being so
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: smug and kind of like.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Because he hates her, he hates everything, he.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Hates everything she stands for, and because of that, he's
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: trying to be like he's trying to be a kind
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: of a fucking dick to her right, Oh.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: No, no, she's he's he's openly not just openly costive.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But what he tells her is, so, since you've created
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: this little thing and people, yeah, you have to help
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: me fix it. Basically, he's saying, like, if you if
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you don't convince people that this is just a stupid
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: love story and you're so happy and you know, play along,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: we're just gonna just.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: He's basically like, just we're gonna even that's the greatest
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: part about the like forcing her to do it. Basically,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: you need to convince people, right. And then when she's like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I can convince them, and he's like, no, you need
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: to convince me, and it's like that kind of like
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that's a good that's a good line. It's a good line,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and like this idea that like who cares about them?
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I control them. You need me. You need to be
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: on good terms with me.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And what he's re asking her is calm this
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: ship down, because you've started something here. He's not saying,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: he's actually not saying, you know, he's like, make them
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: believe the love story because the alternative is they want revolution.
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But also he's not going to reveal to her
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: like they live in a separate world, like no districts
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: know what's going on in other districts. So you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: he's not going to Carl, of course, but he's like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta do this otherwise. Not just I'm going to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: kill you and your whole family, but your district is
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: going to disappear.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: He definitely threatens the Remember there was a district thirteen.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Well they're gone.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very it's not He's Donald is not subtle, subtle, but.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: He's incredible, incredible actor. The White Rose thing becomes the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: sort of like a or or like a symbol or
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you know, he always carries, he's.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Always carried and gives hers. Every time something horrific and
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: tragic that he does to her, it'll like connect to
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that White Rose as well.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because plants her name is a planned the White Roses.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: He's present snow. It's also like groomed his high class.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, symboli isn't anyway. The point is he
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: blackmails her because he saw her kissing Cockams.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, kissing Santa Claus. Yeah, and yeah that part okay,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and e.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Fie and her like goons come over to like her.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Weird melted like, I love the melted the melted people.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Melted goons were gray And speaking of the opposite of
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: a melted.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Goon, what's his name, Ponytail?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: No, Lenny Kravitz comes in sit is back. Yeah, they're
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: prepping her for does have a giant head.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: It's just really big.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It's really big.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: America looks great. I love the gold the gold eye eyeliners,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the fashions.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: In the movie.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: You were saying when we were watching it, it would
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: be weird, honestly if it didn't win some kind of
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: accolades for costumes.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I don't because it's fantastic.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It was a decade ago, but I'm sure once some
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: oscars for that costume.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Probably really remarkable. It's beautiful looking and like so much
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: attention to detail, Like how did I watch drag Race
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: all the time, and like just everything you could possibly
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: think of they thought down, like to the tea and
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: it's such like specific good looks like it actually like
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I feel like it influenced a lot of like just
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: styles that people have now.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, Oh my god, yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I You were also reintroduced to Stanley Temagucci, who's so
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: great is this like verbal character.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: This is like this teeth guy. Yah, you know people
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: who are all teeth like yeah, sile, it's kind of darring. Yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like and to.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Be like a disgusting propagandist. That's and and like like
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: weaving in the narrative that like we followed their agony
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and their relationship talking about Peta and and catnus and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and like tying it into the like social climate of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: we are we all experience this. This is such a
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: isn't this like great that we're seeing them together this
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: true love story or whatever? Yeah?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the production weaving the narrative. Yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it's production taking mandatory meeting, ye sure.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And then they have their like those awesome self like
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: managing cameras they come out of each of their houses.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: The kind of mysterious tech, the magical and mysterious tech.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: It's so incredible.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: It's so cool because you never know if things are light,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: you never know where the cameras are, You never know
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: what's real necessarily like stuff because like realities are kind
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: of constructed, and yet you do know when it's a
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: part of like Jumanji, you know what I mean, you
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: do know when they're in the.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Game, yeah, totally. And then and then when they go
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to hug each other and they fall over and they
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: start kissing, and it's they did a really good job
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: at playing the game in the movie of what they
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: need to do, and man, Pizza plays dead eyed so well,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: like he did it so well in a way that
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: he like. Also, the hair just looks way better.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I love that you're now on
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Peena train. Like he's such an interesting character, Like, yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for sure, isn't he Like I feel like there was
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of attention to details around his character as
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a person.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Totally totally.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, they're on the tour right, like that's what
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: they do. They have to do the interviews, they go
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: they I wanted to.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Just talk about this one scene for just a second.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: This is before they go onto their tour, because she
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: goes he goes like nice acting. He's like really sad
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: about it. He's so sincerely sad. It doesn't feel like
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: he's sad because it's like, oh no, I'm so cocked
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: or no, no, it feels like just like a betrayal
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of the feelings of having gone through something like almost
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: like combat shock and it's like why are like why
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: are you not? Why are born closer? Simply because not
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: even for love or anything like being in love or
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: it's not in cell vibes. It's like a disappointment almost.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's because it's like young adult and was
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: wrote I guess from a woman for women, right right.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that the two love interests are just like,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: both of them pretty decent people, you know what I mean,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Like they're not competing with each other, they're not being like.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: They don't even necessarily dislike each other.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Well, they're just kind of like sadly cooked at times
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: to themselves. Like they all have good processing of emotions,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: like they're.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Like yeah that kind of things. All right, all right,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: it's good. I mean, yeah, it's humblycalympse. I guess everything is.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: They're very understanding. But they also kind of know that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that she is the game, you know what I mean,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Like she's she's the story.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah totally, yeah, which is fine, like honestly, like it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: it's kind of just better than being relegated to like, oh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I'm the woman on the phone. You know, they still
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: have meteor roles than most oh no, women from who
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: have like that kind of dynamic in other movies, So
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: like yeah, and.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: She's fully allowed to sort of be in this in
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: between space because like all of the other shit is
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: happening to her, of course, but like neither one of
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: them are like making any kind of claims on her
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: or being like you need to pick or that you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: there's noge like.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: That, but Gail does.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Gail does kiss her without her consent, kind of not
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: like I'm not being like he's kissing he forced, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: he's kind of trying to force her hand a little bit,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: like being like feel this, like you're not acknowledging this. Right,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: does any have that moment with her?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I think is that the moment when she says, like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you know what, I don't have any capacity for any
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of this totally.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: She does like later in the movie later in the movie, right.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: The kiss the film, the one that's filmed, But.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. But I think the moment where
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: she tells him like I can't I have nothing to give,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: like there's no I'm not into like lovey dovey. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: don't have the literally don't have. But I don't.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Think it's necessarily because it's good work.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Literally, I don't.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: But that seems less about to do with Peita than
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: it does with Oh yeah it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: have anything to do with Peta. Yeah, it's more just like, oh,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I don't care, I can't do this now, you know
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: what I mean.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's only called out by by Cock
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: heem's worth late, like maybe movie three or movie four
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: about her behavior. But yeah, before that, Yeah, she's allowed
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: to just be in this space, which is really nice.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Peta is very much like he is the beta,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the sad boy, the sad boy who's like, I don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: really deserve you, but you know, I don't think I'm
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: supposed to be with you and you don't care about me.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: But also, hey, we went through something. Can we at
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: least be close, Like, can I know something about you?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like, yeah, which is really fair, Like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: if you go through something like that, you're literally your
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: life dependent on the other person. So for him to
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: be like, I would just like to you know, know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: what your favorite color is?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: That was a really nice moment. And then she says
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: green and his is orange, which I noticed were are
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: the colors of the republic and of like the United
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Kingdom Confederacy, I guess or whatever.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: No, No, the Republicans and the loyalists.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: The loyalist thank you, Yeah, the British loyalists. Yes, that's
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: what I meant to say.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's on purpose?
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I thought it might be because the way their politics
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: later break up, which we'll talk about, doesn't happen in
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: this movie. Do you think one I think he's a
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: loyalist and I think she's a Republican. But we'll get
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: to that. I mean, I think it feels very irish.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Wait, who is is Peter is a loyalist?
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Peter is a loyalist?
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Because well, we can't talk about that yet.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You're blowing my mind. Okay, okay, Well did you.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Not get that feeling because he said his favorite colors
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: orange and she said her favorite color is great?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I know, but I didn't interpret that. I wasn't looking
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: into it as it's the essence of their politics, Like
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Well, let's get to it. We don't know, we don't know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: we don't know, we don't know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: We just don't know.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: But there's a lot of parallels to that, to the
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Irish the troubles, right, I mean there's.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Are there there's.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Parallels any sort of anyway, Yes, I mean.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sort when we get into like comparing those kinds
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: of things, it's like it sometimes it becomes a little
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: too broad where it's like is this comparable I mean something?
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Well, but I mean like something yeah, but how do
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: you how do you talk about the material without kind
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: of comparing it to like it's it is based on
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: on world's type dynamics. You know, I'm just saying like
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: it's not you know, like it's it's pulling from that
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: kind of feeling, like that sort of it's trying to
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: sort of like humanize that that experience.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Sure, I mean but but like in the first movie,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: we talked about the fact that it was the writer
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: was switching between the Iraq war and and game shows,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: and so like I mean why not pull from that?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, That's what I'm like, true, Yeah, sometimes, So.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I also wonder if if if her idea was the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: same as Martyr Dad was about like using only things
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that kind of happened already, like creating a world where
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: it's pulling off from things that have had happened in
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that specific way. I mean, of course it's a fantasy
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and there's different technology and blah blah blahah, but you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: similar things, right, so it's a mesh mesh plus you
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: know media theory. You know.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: To your point though about her not having necessarily like
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: a central drive, I will say that there is room
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: in Especially in this scene where Catnus talks about we
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: see the clash between her morals about how she feels
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: about what she like wants the world to be, like yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: versus how it is. So like when e Fie is like, yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: it's just an interview, like just enjoy the spotlight whatever,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and she's like, by killing people, we killed people. That's
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: what we did to get this spotlight and she walks
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: off and it's.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Like it's so to be honest, I wanted kind of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: more of that. Like when I watched the first movie,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I was I was kind of disappointed because I was
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: waiting for that moment when she realizes she has to
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: betray herself to survive, because that's what happens to people.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Like that's the conflict, the moment where you're like, oh,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you know, like I will just compromise everything I am
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and who I am for a sheer survival and she
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: kind of doesn't do it in the first one, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that sets up I mean it's young adults. That sets
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: up people to be like, I can't have your compromises,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you can't have your values not compromise. And when but
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's not what the life is, So
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I guess all the other ones are. Yeah, that internal
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: struggle of like I am doing this to survive. It
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: feels disgusting and in a way, it feels worse than
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: being put at, like that's how that's the idea I
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: got for her. It's worse this kind of like parade
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: of saying and pretending and doing things that it is
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to actually be in the ring and survive. Yeah, because
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's human. Everyone can understand it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: But you just have to do it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And now you're like playing this game convincing people self
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: something that you are disgusted by, basically to save your
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: skin and to save your family and is extremely compromising position.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it's really testing her morals, and especially when she
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: starts seeing things like I found it really interesting that
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: when they go to District eleven, it's like a majority
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: black district and it's where the black characters from the
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: last movie came from now. I read like I was
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: glossing through Wikipedia and I just saw in passing like
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: controversy over race. But I don't know what it could be.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I thought it was like pretty it was because I
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: think uh Rue was a white girl in the book.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: In the book, I think that's that's what it is.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I don't know. I thought there was some.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Race swapping SHD who cares that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I thought it was like, well, well done. I just
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: thought it was like, well shown, aren't they like also
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: like didn't they have like cotton plantations?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I think the idea that District eleven is like what's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the word, like like they create they farm, oh wheat
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: thinks that makes the bread. Yes, not just the wheat,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: but all of the all of the plants that are
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that go into like production of bread.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: The race, I don't know. I'm not sure. I think
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: in the first one there was another district District eight
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: or something. Maybe there's this one too. Yeah. I just
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I also think maybe it was done kind of like sloppily.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It was just like this district there's just black people. Why,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Like there's no yeah, kind of context to it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like pal.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: But they do kind of like they do sort of
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: like maybe it is a little clunky.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, huh, I didn't think about it like I was.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, like the first time it kind of like
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: did I didn't even notice it the first time. I
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: only noticed it this time around. And Yeah, anyway, they
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: they kind of like there's this old man that like
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: really they really focus in on this, like dating maul Route,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: and he's like super into like they kind of imply
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: that he's related to to Rue or something, and he
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: kind of like displays the most amount of rebellion by
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: like putting the three fingers up, going close to the
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: stage and basically causing everyone to like get riled up.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: And then like the guys are just like this is
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: what I appreciate about these movies. They like storm for
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: guys are like so willing to just like bust skulls.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy, Like it's it's pretty It does
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: really push the violence for PG. Thirteen in a way
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: that for a kid would give real stakes, like to me,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: gives real sticks. They're really scary.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: They are really scary, really scary and white.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they look like stormtroopers right, like it's kind of like,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I guess that's where the inspiration is. And they're yeah
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: in white, like it's a weird Yeah, they look like robots.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I love the aesthetic.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: And we get and we get the introduction of that
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: fucking guy. Oh my god, I don't know when that is,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: but like that amazing actor who's like, who's one of
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: the Stormtrooper guys? And he's like, oh my god, yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: so severe and like violence.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, I yeah, that's a bit later.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Where do I know that guy from?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, well we'll we'll get to get to it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: But when she has the moment. The reason the Dani
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Molroon character is defiantly shows the three fingers is because
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: first Peta does his speech in where he does it
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: kind of from the.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Heart but still plastic, but like it's kind of vague
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: from the heart. He's very much a loyalist. And then
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: she's like, no, but the real terrorists were the British Army,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: but my terrorists were always Everyone's got their own terrorists
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: and mine is the British Army.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, I can't believe
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: this is on the BBC.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We're of course talking about ABBC documentary Once upon a
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Time in Norton Island. Everyone should check it out.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: It's about the troubles. Yeah, but yeah, it's why would
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you be Why wouldn't that be on BBC? That's part
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: of history?
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: No, I well I know, but it's not a part
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: of a history that the British are necessarily proud of,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: you know, highlighting right, So it's kind of like.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: No, there are plenty of BBC is a public. It's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: a public, that's what I mean.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there were people that were criticizing it for being
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: too woke.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, like everybody who cares that's a stupid means nothing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it just like anytime it's just done, like
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it just means political correctness. Now it means no sense.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: But yeah. She talks specifically to Ru's family who's on
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the other side of the like a platform where like
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Ru's picture is being shown and the other dude on
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the other side where his family is. But then they
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: just like fucking shoot this old man. They shoot the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: old man.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Well I think the Yeah, what they're trying to say
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: is like, oh, we have this show everyone is watching,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and now we put the family of this dead twelve
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: year old girl on a podium and everyone is crying
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and you know, and then the old guy's like, I'm
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: dead anyway, like ninety I'm gonna like, this is fucking bullshit.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: So little bit like this is bullshit.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm sure they know and I'm sure they
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: know in advance that if they do this sund like,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: if they do the sign like the Serbian three fingers,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: they are going to get you know, beat up. So
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: he knows what's going to happen. So which tells us
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: that this has been going on. The symbol has been
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: around for some time. Yeah. But anyway, what I was
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: going to say is just this movie is really good,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: is making you want the revolution at a certain point,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of destroys it for you, which
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I really really resent. I resent that so hard. Why
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I resent that so hard? I think it's just I
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: think it's well, I think it's first of all anti revolutionary,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and I think it's just like, how would I say that?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Wait, do you resent that the movie is doing it?
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Or do you but what that's that's what it gives you,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: that it's edging you to the revolution.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, but I was so into it I was edged
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: so hard that it was a ruined orgasm that even
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the whole not not just like the this movie, but
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the whole the four movies, right like I felt I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: my orgasm was definitely ruined. And they because they charge
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you for it hard and the result was not satisfactory,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: we paid the ticket. I feel like that's ultimately what
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: they're trying to say is like, oh, all of it
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is just narratives, and yes, we should be fighting for freedom,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: but just so you know, they're all the same. Like
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: that's what I think the movie is saying.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: It's it is.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: It is a little bit that, and it's like I
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: feel like maybe in the context of this world where
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: the resources are as limited as they are, maybe that is.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: The only I don't know. I don't know.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I feel like as we slowly descend into like resource based,
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: resource driven, like you know, protectionists, like edgy fascist politics globally,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: like I don't know, like is this where we just
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: naturally lead? I don't know, is this the dystopia that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Like, are we just you know, only are we not
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: able to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Like imagine anything else? Are we not able to imagine
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: any other kind of way of conducting ourselves?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Well, well, like the part of the problem with imagining
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Do you Want was that, like a it was kind
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: of rhetorical, just like rhetorical towards this movie. I'm sorry
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I bought it. I'm sorry.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Something that I really like was you two are mentors now? Sorry? Fuck,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I can't get no. That was perfect. That was good.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: You are mentors now.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Something? Yeah, and and and his Skyler hair Skyler man. Yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: he looks so much like so much, so much like
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: her anyway.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I also love that he hates this hair and.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: He keeps like angerly unnaturally kind of annoyed mood.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: This was your actual choice as this person in this world.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: You would have cut it, like you don't care about
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: anything except alcohol, Like you wouldn't have been.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I would have shaved that, just shave it. He got
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: a nice thick man hair. It looked nice. Sure yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: it would look nice, sure man. And then like he
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: he like tries to calm her down and is like
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: hugs her, but then she looks out the window and
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: they're like, take the Danny maul room, old man shot
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: in the head away, And it's like, how can I
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: be calm in this situation? But that's a. That's what
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I liked about this this movie is that, like, and
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: every time they go to a different spot and people
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: do the serving three fingers, the stormtroopers would just go
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and just take the breaking skulls.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: But like, I mean, the thing that's interesting is Catnus
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: is doing the impossible dance of like being like, I'm
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: with you, but also being like and my beautiful boyfriend.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: She's being she appealing both to the Russians.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: And yeah, she's not covincing anyone herself, President Snow or
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: any nobody's convinced. Nobody.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: People are her, people are like that's what, that's what.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that comes after and that's that's the only strategy
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that President Snow has, which is kind of stupid.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: He was so mar.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, make her one of us, that's the idea.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: But she's obviously not convincing anyone of anything. And I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: feel like one of my favorite scenes in this old
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: movie is his presence, know with his granddaughter.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming oh yeah, yeah, that's wearing the He's very giving.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Has for her, the for cateness.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: When did you start wearing your hair like that? Yeah,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: oh that's yeah, definitely definitely.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Everyone does at school everyone does. It's the it's the
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it hair. Everyone wants to be her, and he's just
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: like he hates herself.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: But I the reason I actually really liked the stupidness
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: quote unquote of of Snow was that it's his own
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: humorous that's getting in the way, right. But that's but
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: then when we get to the ending, the real ending
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: of of.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, Alex, can we go to theater with
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: you and watch the prequel? Totally?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I could totally watch the pre.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if there is I would
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: love to watch that.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's in the But I'm you
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: come over and watch it all the to the tree?
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Dude? I can't wait?
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Well, have you seen all the movies, haven't you?
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: It's the song.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: That's the song that how are you? Yeah? Yeah, you
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: notice it next time when you watch it?
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, strange things, you're half strange?
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: Ye?
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: Then?
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: And I when I when I heard it the first time,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I was like no. But then when it cut to the.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: And everyone's like and You're like, oh my god, oh
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: my god, oh my god. But can I tell you
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: something even better about it?
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: What? Okay?
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna spoil something for you, okay.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: In the from the prequel.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: From the prequel, the main character of the prequel is
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: the person who invents that song oh okay, and she's
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: an amazing singer and she kind of cringely amazing sings
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: it in a way that you're like, oh my god,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: oh my god. But it's so good that eventually, like
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: there's something that happens, there's so weird where it like,
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Talk about that movie.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: I feel like I hated it movie saw it or
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: was trying to hate it, but I was like, no,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: power through.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's amazing through. Well, speaking of amazing, When
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Catness is doing her tour and that like little Girl
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: comes home, she's like, I volunteered too, and it's like, no,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: what did I do? And then when later on she
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: wakes up and she's like freaking out, and then Pete
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: comes in.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: And he's like what happened?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: And she's like, will you stay with me? And he's like, yeah, horse, yeah, this,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I'll have a boner. She cooks Hendsworth again, and she also.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I'll be your shoulder to cry.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: She also Cockcage is this guy. She's just domming everyone.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It's it's toom. But also she's been dombed by by
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: presidents now, so you know, it's so all circles.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Everybody is just like being Yeah, everyone is just a
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: power tripping on each.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Other, and nobody believes you're in love. They all just
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: they all just think you're reading out of a pamphlet.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: And then Peter, try reading the stuff Effie writes for us.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Pete's got some really really choice lines and his
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: kind of deadpan delivery.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I really I.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Really found his character way more compelling and interesting, and like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, I've always loved Peta, but like, just I
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: don't know this. In part two, he's amazing.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: In part two. It's crazy because you'll deliver full lines
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: in out of focus, just being in the same shot
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: and out of focus. But but there is you're right,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: there is like this level of background like feeling that
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: you just have for him, and it's amazing. Yeah, he
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: does a really good job defeated Peter.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter is weird. He's a weird man.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Oh and then and then the wedding, the proposal.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Right happening, right, No, I think we should before that
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: talk about the moment where she meets the new game
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: master at the party, the sexual tention, the.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, well no, no, what I what I don't I
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: don't like it. I don't like it either. What I
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: mean is is the way they do it is like
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: right as they need something to bolster this relationship. It's
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: announced on TV with Stanley Tucci being like, look, they're
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: getting married, and it's like kind of like him crappily
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: proposing to her. Well, Stanley's standing right next to them,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: like observing it. Yeah, it's like so he's watching.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: It's like Taylor Swift and that NFL guy, Oh my god.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I mean it's obviously a syop to get Biden back
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: into power.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: But do you think that they're Do you think the
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: movie is doing this meta thing where they are giving
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: us like they want us to love the revolution so
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: much because of the lore and the song and the
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: people and the images in the same way that in
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: the movie, that's what they're doing with their loves.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: I think the movie ultimately has a nihilistic message.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like, yeah, I'm so disappointed.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Now, well let's continue.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: We don't know, let's it's analyzed on this journey We're
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: not there yet.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: We're not there yet. We're still in this part two.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: It's only part two. It's only part two. We'll get
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: to the really depressing, sad ending of the rest of
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: the series.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, this is the highlight.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: This all. I mean, this is this is I think
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: this is the best one though it is.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: It is in terms of, like it's the game is
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: really good. The game is really interesting, and it's big budget,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: and you know, it functions as a movie in terms
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: of like it's so fucking entertaining.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also like it's just like so holistically takes
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: uh the world and explores it while at the same
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: time adding to the story of the first one, whereas
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: the second two after this not a bad thing. This
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: is not a bad This is not a criticism, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: it narrowly focuses right back to Catnus again. The first
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: one is a setup, this one is about her, but
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is how the world is, and
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: then the last one is like this is how her
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: story ends. Which I that's it. I think perfect trilogy,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: perfect like pretty awesome trilogy. Like this this we'll get
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: to it. We'll get to I mean what we will
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: but also this party. Speaking of world building, one of
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: my favorite scenes is here have this purple drink.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Oh what is it?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's to make you throw up so you could
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: eat more food.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: It's like where starving Marvin is, like, what's thetizing? What
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: you eat before you eat to make hungry appetizer.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Before you eat to make your.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: W It is like that, Yeah, just the starving etheropia,
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: And I guess it was always the joke in the
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: in the South.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, and then we meet Philips humer Hoffman, who, yeah,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: who's this charisma and sexuality in the entire movie, And
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: like immediately sort of like tips his hand that he's like, hey, Catnus,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I'm actually really on your side. Yeah, like now that
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I really like you.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: When I watched it the first time, I didn't see it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: But now it's like some things are too obvious to me.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Just because he does a good joke, he's such a
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: good actement.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And the way that he is manipulating President Snow is
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: so I'm like this guy. I mean, okay, I'm literally
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: changing my mind as I'm talking about it because I'm like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't be this naive like President Snow wouldn't rely
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: on this one guy that showed up to present the strategy,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: which is, we have this problem. This bitch is too popular.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Everyone loves her. You know, she needs to disappear, but
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: she needs to disappear in the right way, so she's
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: not a mortar. Like it makes sense. But then to
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: do new game where you're gonna like make her compromise
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: herself and then kill.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Her, you're not a good really not a good idea.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You know why I'm I'm gonna say, I'm going to
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: defend it. I'm gonna defend it. Not because I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: it's a good idea, but it's because because like like
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: autocrats and and and people that are like that man
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: fucking Trump didn't give back the documents for fucking years.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I was just like like, no, I'm not gonna do it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: It's like why why just you're gonna get in trouble
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: if you.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, because that's that's what I
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: meant when I was when I was changing my mind, Well,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I was totally because like you see the yeah, like voteacher,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: you see those people, and they do be stupid sometimes,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. It's not that they're
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: just stupid and there's.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Like a man around.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: There's like a narrowness of yeh of first the the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: the ability to listen to a critique or to listen
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: to a different opinion, or to be confronted with something
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: because you get rid of those people and exactly and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: there are magical people like us Putin and like that's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: what it is. He gives you the solution.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: So yeah, he's like, well, if we just do this
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and this, she'll be fucking fucked. And then he's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I mean look at me mess mat Yeah, well you.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Know, and it's kind of like but but yeah, it
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: is almost like the hubris in it is what makes it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Like he allows for presidents now to think that it's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: a it's to realize that it's a good idea.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good idea.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: It's your idea all along.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: It's like think about it this way, like because he's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: not saying no, he never says no to him. He's like,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I agree, she has to die, but in the right way, right,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: So he he like allows for that space, that liminal
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: space to exist so that he could fill in those
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: gaps for him.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like and.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: He knows because he knows that if she's in the game,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: he has control over what happens to her.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Exactly. That's true.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: And because we learn eventually that spoiler alert, Philip Seymour
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: Hoffmann is a revolutionary, he's he's a revolutionary guy.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: He's working against.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: He's working against the game.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, against the capital, which is also.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Like trying to get somebody.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, I think it was an interesting conversation. If
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Cadness was a bit smarter, she would have caught it,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: of course, because when they have this conversation, when they
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: meet with their sexual tension. She's like, oh, you know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I killed the first first guy. What made you volunteer
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: for this job? You know what I mean? And he's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: like kind of looks at her, like, you know, because
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: they're having a candid conversation, but he can't he can't
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: admit it to her, so he just like kind of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: chuckles and says, I guess I'm ambitious.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: It's funny he's but it kind of also adds to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: the sexual tension that he has with everyone.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: He's like, I have a death wish, you know what
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, but you kind of like he kind of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: gets you in that moment of like maybe maybe I.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Like this guy.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: He's definitely an amazing addition, incredible actor really really and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: it's done.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Really in a way like out Shawn, everyone in the movie.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: Every scene he's in, he kind of steals it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, every hes the like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Julian Moore is really working for everybody's work. She's at
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: the very end of.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Let's not talk about it, not in this movie at all.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: No, No, I know, I'm just saying that, like, there
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: are people, there are people this movie. She is at
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: the end. She's at the end. She shows up and don't.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: See her at the end.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: She does she know. My point isn't that? My point
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: is the fantastic actors that are in the movie are
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: in service of the movie. Philip robs of himself. Every
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: every c shows up in he is he's servicing the movie.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: But he's also like Philip.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: That's basically what we're saying when he when we say
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: he has sexual chemistry with everyone in this movie, like.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: You just whoever, he's doing the audience, fucking the audience.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 9: He's like.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: But but also but also he he is what's it
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: called snow is a person who does think that. Well,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: he does set up the plan that they need to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: flog cock Keem's worth as well. He says, like, we
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: need to make them know that she's one of us.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does this amazing thing, which is uh, he does,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: and it is a strategy of like, make her do more,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: make her do more of like the wedding, ah, the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the you know, like, make make her more like us
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: in terms of like her motives, and they make her bougie,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: like put her like, oh, the princess, oh, the diva
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: everyone loves her or the fashion whatever, and then put oppression, oppress, oppress, oppressed.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Press the guys that are with her until the community,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: oh yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: And everyone just in every district, so that they feel
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: like they can't rely on her, that she betrayed them,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: and that she's ultimately trade they will, yeah, ultimately. His
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: desire is that the rage will go towards her rather
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: than the capital, the capitol.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: And then we were introduced to that guy who you
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: talked about, the stormtrooper, who is like the most white stormtrooper.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stormtrooper, I know that guy, I know, Oh my god.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: He's also really hot. I know I've seen him in
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: like cop shows or like detective show. Was there some
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: kind of strge this guy is attracted too?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Interesting?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very hot. Interesting I mean not that he
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: is hot. I think is he scared? Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: He's incredible, he's incredible. He's only in this one scene,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's amazing. He really shows up and.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got so much impact. But man, it's so
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: scary the way they're like lighting everything on fire and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: like pushing old people down. And then Cuck Hemsworth doesn't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: cut himself by tackling this dude and he gets flogged,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: he gets man, the guy is.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Like sorry, guy is like so he overacted, like not overacted,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: he like played an oscar for this for no reason.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: This performance.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: But it's amazing, filled with rage, just pure contempt and rage.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: It's overacting in the way that that once his name
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: tenuinely Lewis is overacting and there will be blod It's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: like it's like, whoa, why did you break this much
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: of a performance to this? Why are you saying you're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: gonna come and slip my throat?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I found like, oh this this performance
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: is like maybe too intense, but like who is this car?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Like he gave him too much care, too much character. Yeah,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: but also he did he did do an amazing job
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: at the levels of of emotion. Because cut Haamsworth starts
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: getting whipped. Catness jumps in front and gets a little
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: tiny slice on her face and then uh image comes
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: in and he's like, listen, you don't want to be
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: doing this to to Catness.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Oh man, I love I love the like subtle threat,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: like using using the threat of another threat when people
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: are kind of evenly magical, everyone's got something over themselves.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: He's like this, trust me, you do not want to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: be hurt, and Catness here and the like looking around
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: and Peta comes in and Peta is also like really
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: intense and it's like you're like, oh my god, so
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going to die in this scene.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I know, because they.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Could have yeah yeah, I mean it would have been
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: easier for the love triangle, but then where's the tension.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: Oh you need you need the like circular cooking.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Like revolution, Oh who is she going to big revolution?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Peta or Gale? Do we want green or orange?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Who are voting for guys, the loyalists or the Republicans.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: So are you saying that the it's not Catness and
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Peter who are loyalists and and and no Republicans, or
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: is it I'm saying that she's in.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: This between Peta and Catness. She's more aligned to the Republic.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would and she's more aligned with.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Is Republican and loyalist. Yeah, I would say that that
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: makes more sense to me than to put any of
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: that to Catness.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Well, because but Cadness is embodying it because she picks
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Gail or Cockem's over Peta. She continuously in her heart
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: is picking the Republic. She's she's she's an Irish girl.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: She's a Catholic, you know she is.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: And then we got that guilt.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: We get the Morphling Warfling getting put into Cockheamsworth and
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: then then putting those bandages, which I feel like, what
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: if you took those bandages off, they just go that's disgusting.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: I also like the scene, but this is when we're
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: reintroduced to.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, where she the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: mom is trying to get the uh and and Primrose.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: Is just like let me do it shows that she
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: went catatonic again.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: I love how mom is cocked again by the second daughter,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: just like you, stupid fucking bitch, let me do this.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I'm twelve and I'm better than you. Yes, I mean
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: they were really harsh to his mom.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: They were harsh to the mom, Like there is a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: sense also in the movie that like, if you can't
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: swim in this world, then it's gonna fucking chew you up.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also loved the scene where man like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: when Peter comes in and he's like, hey, dude, you've
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: been up all night. Let me take care of Cuckhamsworth
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: and cuck him like this, No I'm kidding. But then
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: she goes together just gonna put to do all the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: politically incorrect jokes.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's been coucked enough.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: But then Primrose and Catiness have like a really nice
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: heart to heart outside being like and she echoes the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: fact that she has hope that that Caten has brought
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: in to the entire community of districts, right, which is
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: the thing that Snow doesn't want.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's bigger than herself.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: But you're right upon second viewing, like you you watch
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: it and it's like, man, the snow kind of stupid
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: or what because he keeps she keeps defying him in
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: ways and the only person telling him.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's stupid. I think it has a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: very real world explanation. He's on purpose, elderly at the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: end of his power, and like there's a kind of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: like sense that this has been boiling up anyway, and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: he doesn't have the like wouldn't fortitude of his earlier
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: years to keep the regime going, so like he's kind
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: of losing grip and as a result, he's not really
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: making the sound at choices.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: As a result, we're electing Hillary Clinton at the end
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: of this that I introduced to you, Yeah, new President
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton. And then but then we're also brought into
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: what the quarter quell is, Well that's seventy fifth year.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that they just wanted to put her in. I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: guess the idea is.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: They invented a thing they like ret Conda things to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: make it like, well, since it's the seventy fifth year,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: we do all stars, all winners, it's not any regular season.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: I thought I thought. I thought the implication was that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: every twenty five years they do this.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: No the third no, they said he says, like, oh,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: every twenty five years, we like to up and do
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: something a little bit different. They didn't say they do this,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: They don't do all that.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, that's definitely. That was definitely Like I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: just meant the quarter qull or whatever was the thing.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: That I thought they were also in these kinds of regimes,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: they lie about that shit all the time. It's like, yeah,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: like people remember what happened twenty five years or fifteen
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: years ago, you know what? You know what I mean?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Especially, this was always true that we did this.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, because like that man like was always it sucked.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: Is she talk about performance her being like I don't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: want to do this again. That was like a good
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: trauma response post traumatic stress disorder.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: Now she's got a little bit of post traumatic stress.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: She knows. She's like, you can't win this fucking twice
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: and he's putting me there to kill me, like totally
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: totally there's no escape. She's also realizing this. Hamig is
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: saying there's no fucking escape from this, like it's even
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: worse if you survive, you just gotta live this.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: That all kind of like reveals that to her, He's like, no, like,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: there is no end to this.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Well, he says that he said that before to he
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: we tried to like that's why he was so like,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: uh uh right, and that's why Hamage. Hamage is also
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: dealing with disappointment in Catness not being is disappointed in
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: the way I was disappointed in the movie totally where
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: she he's like, I thought you were like you just
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: suck and now you're drinking with me. Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: think these games are going to be different.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: You're just a girl that's good with the bow and air. No,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: he didn't say that, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: Well, so when is the scenes? When are the scenes
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: when when Cateness is trying to convince Hamich to.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: This is the scene where Catnes is trying to convince
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Homich to go instead of Peter, and Peter lives. He
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: has to live.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I've cucked him enough, this boy enough.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: He's got to go make bread for my family.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: She also realizes, yeah, that she can't win. There's no
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: end to this. They'll never let her be like She's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: like she's being again the moral person of like somebody
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: else should live. You know, I will save someone else
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: because I put others in front of me.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: How catness feels at this moment is how I feel
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: often with Mama when she when I'm like, oh, everything's fine,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: and I'm not back in that same dynamic, and then
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: suddenly I'm just like, oh man, it's not only the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: same dynamic, it's the exact same feelings, and yeah, this
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: must be how it feels too Catness in this instance, like.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Here we go again, but not just here we go again,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: we get a big change with with Peta who is volunteering,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: uh in in Hamidge's stead.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: So do you think because like I'm sure that they're volunteer. Yeah,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that it's rigged, like not rigged, but you
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, did did the game makers
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: wanted Hamage to be in there with Cadnus?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: No, they knew they had, They had a feeling, but
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: either way totally rigged. But either way they had they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: could They know they could control Peter, that's the thing.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And like, yeah, so they assumed if we pick Hamage,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: he's going to volunteer and then it's done unless they
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: if they picked him, if Camdge volunteered, they there was
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: nothing they could have know.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: They want they want the rematch of Biden and Trump
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: because they want he wants the love story to fail. Yes,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: so no matter what, those two are gonna be going
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: for president again exactly.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and Peter is just like, oh, like everyone,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: I just want to save her. Yeah, everyone's trying to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: save each other because they're all good people.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think what we say.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna keep moving. I was gonna let's
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: let's introduce the audience with the crew.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have to have some allies.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I love the new crew.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: I love the new crew.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the new crew is phenomenal. This British guy playing American,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: trying so hard not to be twisty based.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Trying so hard.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: He did a good job.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: He did a pretty good twisty base British face, Like
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: immediately you could just see him how British he is.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: But I loved it because he just looked like a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: villain the whole time.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: I love this This old lady dude like his grandma
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: or whatever, who's like one of the first winners. Oh yeah,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: like doesn't like its, like, doesn't speak. Yeah, and she's
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: so cool though.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: She's really cool. Yeah, he's great.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: He wont not though, she's really cool.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: He won the game when he was fourteen.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my face, guy, what's his name?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Smiley face?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: He has that.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: That weird wish there was a camera that could just
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: show that face you just made.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: What's his name?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: What is the character's name? It's something? What does he
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: have a name? Should they call him.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Mags for Annie? Annie is his girl? His girlfriend?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: You are you okay?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Yanni?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: You okay?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Phinic Phinic okay, Phinnick Phinic o'dair.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: Phinic getting finn dog.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: My god. Yeah, Phoenix is great. Max is great, Uhxican?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Max is the old woman?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Oh beaty, like the what's this guy's name? This actor,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: oh dude, Jeffy right, doesn't look like anything to me.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: The most doesn't look like anything to the actor. Also,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: we get honey buddy, yeah.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Smooth, execute every Hunger.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Games one of your total She totally tick talk. She
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: predicts TikTok in.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: This totally predicted TikTok.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah she saw it, dude, And you have your fucking
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: move man. And when they like get the new dress
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: or whatever, and Pita's wearing his dress or whatever.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: And this girl's on fire again, dude, Yeah, but this
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: is this is where they pivot. This is where they
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: pivot from girl on fire to are you are you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: mocking Jay? To me, she becomes mocking j Dude.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and she looks great.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: That was Senna's ending. That's that's how he sealed his faith.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: When Senna, like, when Senna's light is extinguished, it's really sad.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: It is when is that part?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Are we getting there yet? No, that's the end again,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: We're getting to general alone stripping in front of her
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: alone show? And then.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Was she Matilda?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: No, No, she wasn't.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: She wasn't Matilda, but she was a child star.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: What she was in she was a famous as a child.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: I mean darky she was.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: She was Donny Darker sister.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Real sister was Donnie Darker sister. She was the girlfriend girlfriend.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: No. Then I literally know her small face, Like I know,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: such a face.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: But she did such a good job in this, like
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: and I think they cast her for her former child
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: status because being a former child star, he's kind of
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: like being in like thrown to the Hunger Games, you know.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: So I think they cast her like kind of deliberately
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: and like she fucking kills it. She's got such attitude
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: in the movie.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so angry and she's so herself and she's
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: so genuine.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: But something that you said last episode, Alex, like no
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: one ever, no one ever falls into the Mary suit category.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: No one ever falls into like, no one ever, Like
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: they all have their downfalls, they all have their flaws,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: which is what makes them interesting.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: It's awesome because of the fact that they made Catnus
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: have abilities that functioned really well for the story without
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: it being like, Oh, I'm just amazing at everything, and
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's great speaking of amazing at everything, Jeffrey
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: Wright trying to light the fire and then.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: Her going you got to roll down it, Yeah, create
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: a better friction, and he's like, oh, I'm impressed with
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: your science abilities.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Respect she's again picking like what she's picking people who
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: are not.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: She's not picking like the brutes. She's picking like the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: emotional people.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Because the underdogs. She's picking underdogs well like I mean,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: she she picks the when when she.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Does pick them, she looks at the they're the ones
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: who understand that there's a force field in between when
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: she shot the arrow into the apple.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: Well, they add the backstory lore that they won their
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: Hunger games by like somehow bringing something to electrocute a
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: bunch of people and they killed six people at once.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: So that's like an addition to like show that in
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: a way, they're almost like they have a power that's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: like even better than any of catnesses.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I think, I don't know. I think she likes the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: humbleness or like not flashiness. I think she's anti flash.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: But is that all that draws her to Well.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: It's it's like unique skills that are outside of brute force,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: which it seems like the other people who are younger.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Also, she's looking who she can trust and these look
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: more like boys.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Then Yeah, speaking of Bubby, this woman played the old
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Lady played Bubby, and I remember, I remember, that's such
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: a funny scene. You so hard, just do it, You'll
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: just do it. It's like, whoa dude, This is weird
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: because I've only seen.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: Talking about you, you've seen this this old lady be
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: that character.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: To see her, this was like whoa dude, Such a
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: good job and as the Bubby, but yeah, she's amazing.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Too, like her puppet face acting and like her like
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: majestic eye and.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Turning to puppet face act.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: Returning towards Goddess would be like, I'm majestic, and Goddess
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: is like, oh my god, you are like the immediately
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: like bonds with them in kind of a way, like
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: I'm Hudson, sir, he's his it's man. Yeah, it is
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: It is casual, like that where somebody makes a mistake
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: about something, but you figure out a character through it.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Totally do it through a character.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Also when they're supposed to present their skills. I think
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: she did great. I think our girl did so good.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: What does she do when you lightness?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was it was great. So she
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: walks in, she's the last one and Pete, of course,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: his artistics killed.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Some dead laborage with very little dude. I mean he
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: made that wood face, dude, he.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Made that wood face with no mirror. She walked sin
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: sheds a little tear for Rue, and then she takes
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: a puppet and hangs a puppet.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I love, and then the swirling beard.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Which is so effective, basically saying, you know what my
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: skill is, I.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: Killed killing killing masters. Yeah, yeah, she reminds him. Yeah,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: it's not just that, she tells him at the dinner.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: She also repeats it at the for your consideration.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know who I am? I'm gay master killer.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's pretty cool.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes she's really direct with
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: the claim of her power and she knows who she is,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, I remember having this I just wish
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: she was more revolutionary.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: Well, I remember having this frustration with the main character
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: from Handmaid's Tale also of like sometimes she's really pushing
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: the boundaries, and other times they always have to bring
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: it back to like she's somehow subdued. But you know,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: sometimes revolutions are slow. Sometimes they're just like small winds,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: small battles, you know, I don't know, horribly most of
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: them terribly With Julianne mor Vega Jargi exactly the same.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was so stupid. That was like,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's not talk about the third movie, but
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: that was the disappointment of the movie. Yeah.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll get.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: There of the whole book, and I was just so
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: angry that this writer did that, like instead of an
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: actual revolution, there's like some people in a bunker like
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: come on anyway.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: I mean it's a bleak view, you know, like maybe
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: it's just maybe that's just how she feels. Maybe that's
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: the disillusion to America. She's a millennial. She'll never own property,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: despite having Hunger Games books. She'll never own property.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: She's only a she's only a ten millionaire. She's not
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: a billionaire exactly.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she's just the middle class.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I loved when genlem Alone is introduced on stage to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Stanley Tucci and she's like, fuck, this, this sucks. I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: hate this, this is awful. It's not happy. I don't
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: feel good about this.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of cool because like the way it's filmed,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: it has the kind of like awkwardness of like a
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: moment like that where it's like, oh, this does.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: For it is George Bush doesn't care about black people.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: It's totally that. It's like oh yeah, yeah, I mean.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting situation because of course, you know,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: even though they're like, oh, every twenty five years, of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: course they don't do that. That's what they were promised.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: That's the hope. You win this and then you get
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: to fucking live then.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: And President Snow doesn't care about black people.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: President Snow doesn't care about yeah.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: But also Stanley TUCV like, well, that's one moment's opinion.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: His ability to like turn everything into a joke is
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: kind of is the liberal move of like, well, let's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: make the best of it everyone, this is the reality
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: we have.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just smile and wave. Yeah.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Hello, mister Thompson. Hello, I think he's talking to you.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this episode.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Oh and then Sinna makes the wedding dress as the
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: dress that she's going to be wearing.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, oh, he made me whatever, because yeah,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: he's still writing the narrative.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: But then she specifically because Snow was like you have
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: to wear the wedding dress.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, such a cool move.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: But then she spins and it becomes a different dress.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Also, sorry, I was just going to say she didn't
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: know that was going to happen, you know, Like wouldn't
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: you like tell her that, like, no, I'm making you
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: a symbol of this revolution that I know it's happening,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: but you are kind of unaware, and you're trying not
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: to contribute to because you're trying to save your life
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: and your district. Like she's shocked that she is a
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: mocking jay.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: Everybody mean, everybody's talking, but everybody's talking to her people
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: are really guarding her from the information, like yeah, and
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: she I honestly, I keep going back to this, but
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: I believe it because I think she's traumatized and like
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: she's not in the headspace to even understand that there
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: is a revolution. She just got out of this. She's
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: like not wanting to go back into anything. She wants
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: to go off the grid.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: I mean it's been a year, right, like maybe less
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: or something like that.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're also I think doing a very calculating everybody
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: who is helping her in the way that is helping
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: the revolution's manipulating her. That's the idea. Everybody's seen it
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: is also doing it, of.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Course, That's what I mean. Like he didn't tell her
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: about the dress, and I'm like, I feel like that's
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: really like.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: Not okay to do to someone, you know what though,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, what's his name, Harvey Milk outed somebody
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: for for I forget which reason, but he outed somebody
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: as gay as gay for like a specific real like
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: it was like also a political political reason to do it,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: so that it would benefit like an overall thing.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: So I think that's what, well, that's what they're trying
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: to do. And that's what they're trying. But I think
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: that's it makes me so angry because it's like, oh, actually,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: you know, when people do revolutions, they're just using people.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: She's being used to be the symbol of a revolution,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, no, she should be the first
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: one there.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, who But let's hold off the criticism. Just
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: not just let's hold off, let's let's think about it practically,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: because you do need those things, like you can't have
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: individuals individualism, and like.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: As well, they're grooming her for a symbol of something.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: She can just be herself and know that that's good enough.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Neoliberal I can't help but fight with revolutionary auna, but
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: I'm a libertarian. Libertarianism and the opposite of what happens
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: when they all hold hands and they all stick their
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: hands up. It was a really cool show. That's when
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh that that British face guy is
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: actually kind of cool, and alone is obviously cool. Rember,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: everybody knows.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: The nim is. They give her a little little little
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: snippets and.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Then what's his name, Stanley Tucci going it's not the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: game and the lights turn off.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, we're in the game. Now are we?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: Oh man?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, So, like I really appreciated the Home Alone two
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: news of the build up, the biggerness.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: I just it was. It was so much.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: It had so much more scale, and like they're brought
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: up through the tubes through the tube technology as Catness
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: dramatically is taken away from Sinna.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Forever, who is so murdered in.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: This scene brutally. It was so sad and.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Like just starting a game like that.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they complete, they want to take everything away from.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: Her, but they're doing it as a tactic. Yeah, like
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: Snow wants wants her to see this happen.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also nice to see, like, oh, they
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: do a different kind of game every time.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: And it was environment and yeah, I loved it. I
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: was so excited for it.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: And the like clock thing of the man, the like
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: panels or the like ledges that they're a spinning around
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: the wedge.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: Each wedge is its own hour and it's like self
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: contained and it has its own set of deadly traps.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Truck Truck.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Came.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like in this game because they're all stars,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: all winners, and because they wanted to build this solidarity
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: narrative of none of them want I mean, none of
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: them ever want to be there, but you know what
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've all been there before, now they all have extra.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think they more wanted to make it
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: like the environment is killing them rather than they're killing
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: each other. Because there's not a lot of killing each other.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: No, there's actually surprising a little killing each other, except
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: for Peta, who kills that person who's trying to kill
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: him by drowning them.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, there's a couple of kills, but you know,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: I feel like a lot a lot of the main
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: kills happen right in the first ten minutes. It seems
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: like it's kind of the rules of Hunger Games is
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: like the very beginning is always the most deadly time.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: If you can survive the first ten minutes, you can
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: probably have a chance of, like, you know, doing okay
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: for a while, Yeah, for sure.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: And then Peta lets catnus know through giving the bracelet
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: to Finnic. Phinnick, Yeah, bracelet to Phinic. And then we
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: get some man on man kissing because we don't need
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: to kiss anymore for CPR, just so you guys know.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that that's not no longer thing. It
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: was really it was why you.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Only kiss them to violate that's the only reason to kiss.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: You're not pushing the inside their lungs.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: No, what you need to need to just press on
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: the heart. You need to press on their heart.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Nothing to do with lungs.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Just makes their heart beat again.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that either. They heard them talk about
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: it last time.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: This, he saves Peter because Peter touches the end of
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: the Holid deck and the Holid deck and yeah, and
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: he's like, he's like, it's like when Timmy gets electrocuted
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: in Jurassic.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Part speaking of of other franchises that this reminded me
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: of the part of the reason last time I mentioned
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch this movie because it reminded me of
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Battle Royale or the the premise. The premise.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: But it's also running man.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: It's also running. Oh, it's one hundred percent. It's more
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: running man. It's more running, And the more it goes
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: it's aliens. It is alien. It's so like aliens, like
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: the way it's shot, and then later on when the
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: aliens actually do come, which was a little weird. We'll
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: get into it. But but in the next episode I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: felt a little weird about it, but I was like, yeah, whatever, okay,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: it's cool. And then when they get their their little
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: spigot to get water and shit, I love that. That
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: part was so cool.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: And the way they're all doing like curvy blowjob mouth
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: to get the water.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: They're going like they got to get all the drops
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: of jizz. And then the grandma gets some jizz. Everybody
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: gets some. Everyone get this. But yeah, they're like, it's scary.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: The apes are scary in this, dude.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: The boils are scary. But also the boils being water
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: soluble is amazing.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: So scary, that's so weird.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of like the weird sort of like
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: because the disease is fake. It also the cure is
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: kind of fake, you know.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: That because it was such a simple solution to Yeah.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: And like you get rid of the boils because they're
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: they're not going to put a mask of boils.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: On for the whole movie to keep going with boils exactly.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: And then Mag's fucking totally kisses uh Phinnick and she's
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: always wanted to do.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: That and she gives her life. Yeah, it's crazy, it's
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: she kind of like majestically walks off.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: He's like and he's like, Finnick, I can't carry him,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: is carrying a child the whole time. He was carrying
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: a child the whole time.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's so cute a child, actually, I think
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: my fa I wouldn't say my favorite. Yeah, my favorite
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: one was the the the birds that that mimic that
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: get that record sounds, because that's also that's a comeback
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: to the prequel prequel we will see how they're important.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: It's also a comment on how they took the regime,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: took the mocking Jay symbol and turned it onto them,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: because they.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: You'll see, it's actually quite a big part, Like it's.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: The part of thee it's kind.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Of crazy interesting, which I really I really liked, and
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: and like, yeah, it turns it against them as like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: these tortured recordings of their loved ones calling for it,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: so it's so sinister and these people are already so
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: traumatized and cat and this is just like, yeah, it's
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: just it's too much.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: And also the fact that they make it to the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: edge of the like arena, which is very cool, and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: like the ships like coming down through the the like
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: actual arena and stuff. I loved all of that. All
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: of that was really cool.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: It's such an entertaining movie that this wasn't like it
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: it had nothing to do. I mean you didn't like
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter like the story plot, the revolution or whatever.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: It was just like fun to watch.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this this was definitely the funnest one.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: And then what's his name? Jeffrey Wright comes up with
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: a cockamamy scheme.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: To like.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Electrocute a tree the tree are you? Are you?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Well, basically they they made that plot to kill the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: other the other to try but like there's two groups, right.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: And they're kind of winning the whole time, the like
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: smart group is winning the whole time.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this seems to not be a lot of
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: other people like, yeah, it was very much different concept.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like, you know, like personalities against personalities killing
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: each other. It was more like anyway, but didn't slowly,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: I just want to say slowly. And that's interesting and
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like not over the top. I think
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: it was done. What Well, you start noticing how there's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: something going on that she doesn't know that there are
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: people protecting her more than they're protecting themselves.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, like yeah, okay, so I'm glad that you
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: mentioned that, because we also start noticing a random spaceship
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: coming and taking taking people away when they get killed.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, which we're like.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: What is this spaceship? Why is it similar to the matrix?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, she's scared. They're they're plotting this thing about the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: because they figure out the TikTok TikTok and they know
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: that the lightning strikes there, so they want to put
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: some coil and kill the put the electricity in the water,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: kill the other people.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: The lightning strikes and the tree. Yes, huge, yeah, every
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: every time the clock strikes I guess.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 9: On the hour.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, I thought it was just at midnight.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: No, it's on the hour, and then every sort of like.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Wedge, it starts like noon or midnight, and then everything
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: has its I think.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: But so are we Actually he's not moving right, No.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: No, the the clock around is moving there like wedges
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: are moving, the wedges of the clock they were on.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: No, I understand, but they were saying like if the
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: monkeys are at one o'clock from one to two, when
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: it shifts there from two to three. So they don't
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: stay in the same place, or do they stay in
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: the same place.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: No, I think if you just happen to be in
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: the wedge where something bad has happened.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: So there's a wedge that's always missed or is there
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: a wedge that's always monkeys or is it as.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: No, I can change. That's so interesting. I think it is.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: I think the monkeys shift after their shift is over there.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: Well they stopped because remember they just walked away, right,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: they walked away, and the mist, the mist, the mist
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: just disappeared.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: The birds disappear.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I know every every one of
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: them lasts an hour. What I don't know if that
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: if that's their house or if they after that move
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: to a different house.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they like all of the atrocities of each of
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: each wedge.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: Where are we though? Are do they meet back on
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: the beach? When does that happen? They well, they said
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: they set up the bananas trap that Jeffrey Wright wants
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: to set up. And then they also keep getting pulled
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: apart because they they form a plant, are a catnus
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: and pet form a plan within the plan to meet
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: up with each other. And then oh yeah from there
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: because they still have to kill each other.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: They So she's the I guess, the only one that
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't know what's going on because Peter.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think Peter either.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Peter doesn't either.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's like, as soon as we killed all
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: the other ones, we're gonna start. We're gonna have to
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: start killing each other. And she's like, I don't want
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: to start first, so let's just as soon as they're done,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: is just leave, let's like run.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But then it gets split up and Joanna, who's
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: genlemen alone, rips the the cracker out of army. Uh,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: and she doesn't know why she did that, and she goes.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: And she rubs blood on her neck as if she's dead,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: and she like kind of tells her to pretend she's dead.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: She's like, shut up, bitch, I know what I'm doing.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, so Cat, I think what happens is
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: that Cadness is confused and scared and and the pin
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Phinic is like, don't don't kill me. There's something going on,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: So she's just basically she does remember who the real
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: enemy is, like trigger, that's cool.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: There's something going on, but it is it does tell
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: because who protects Peta? And then Peter said, why did
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: someone protect me?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one of those people that they're do people.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: They're literally non characters. But they won because they won
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: hid really well exactly, they just waited for everyone to die. Anyway,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: they just jump. They jumped in front of the monkey.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: To say Peter, he was like, I don't what is it?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: What was this behavior? Anyway? So Catness is like cats
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: I remember who the very lentymy is. And she realizes, oh,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a thunder and she already knows
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: that she can hit the dome.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, a choir and wraps it around the head
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: of the arrow and shoots it.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: Dude, it's such a cool. It's a cool and it's
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: such a cool. Honestly, if I saw that as a
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: little kid, it would blow my mind.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: So much fun.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: This whole movie is so fun.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: I would love it if we I saw this as
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: an adult and was like so excited.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: When I know, I know, I'm just saying, like, I like,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: it made me feel like a little.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: Kid to watch. It made me feel like a little
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: kid too, because it was epic. It was Yeah, and
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: when I read, Oh my god, yeah.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: It causes electricity, like everything just yeah, just.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: Darkness and like the way waking up and the claw
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: coming down to pick her up.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, I have to shout out that incredible scene where
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: it's just shot from like the perspective of the crane
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: lifting lifting catness up and her head is being held
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: up by like the arrows that are jutting out, so
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: like she's not like kind of leaned all the way
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: back hanging completely.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: But then like so cool, like the dome falling and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: hitting the sides of her and just seeing her in
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: profile and just seeing the the bo like bombs, the
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: fire going up against her. It's so awesome.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: It was also like nice second time around watching it,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: seeing how the game master was like actually saving her,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: like when he was rotating the things. As soon as
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: she fell into water, they show us that that she's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: in the water. He was like, Okay, that's enough, Okay,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: that's enough.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the twist.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: She wanted a twist, Oh ya wanted a twist? Come
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: on season six, let's get sick.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, bitch, she's in the the fucking terminator, fucking craft hovercraft.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: The major ex dominator hovercraft and she wakes up beside
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 5: who is she sleeping beside?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: She gets she gets she gets put into the shes
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: just empty and into this picks up something to stab with.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then she goes and finds Hamish and he's.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: Like, Catnish, it's and it's Julian Moore, isn't it? No?
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: No, okay, So it's Finnick it's and then.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: Master and she's like, why are you with him? And
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: hamidg you're with them?
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: You're with them. He's like, no ktness, I'm with you,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: no kindness.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: We've all been gas leaving you for so long.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: And I guess that is that part of it is
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: a little bit like it's like it's troubling because you're.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I mean, if it was further revolution
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: but the right revolutions.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the thing here. Here's the interesting thing
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: that because we also see that that Hemsworth is here too,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: and he lets her know that prim is okay and
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Catatonia is okay.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: But they're like, they're like, I mean, it doesn't. He
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: also reveal to her in this moment there is no district.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: District is gone.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: They did what they did to District thirteen.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, she feels like she caused it, you know
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: what I mean, And they did it. The revolutionaries did
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: that by making her a symbol and then stealing her
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: out of the dome so that everyone could see that,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, she she is literally upon an
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Earth game.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: The thing that is interesting to me, and it's I'm
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: trying to think of the best way to say this
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: without sounding like a dick or without sounding like also like, oh,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: you're liberal.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: To you guys, it's okay, sound like a liberal.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it's just like, like I think generally, when people
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: are in the revolutionary mode or want to you know,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: sort of like foster a sort of revolutionary attitude. I
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: think that the best movies that are about revolutions, like
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: this kind of movie show that like these are really
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: messy things that don't end in like nice like sort
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: of ah like it. It's a lot of getting rid
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: of your your own individuality and being like this is
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: my personality now, you know, and like Children of Men
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: does it really well? Terminator two does it really well too,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: where it's like, well, I'm like singularly focused on this
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: one thing. Who cares about this? Uh family that's created
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: Dyson's family, like fuck them.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and then you kind of have to work
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: your way back, like find the humanity.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: Find the humanity. But like the thing that's the interesting
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: thing about what.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: But I mean, like the way that Terminator two does
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: that's it does it in a totally different way.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it totally does. But like
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: her humanity comes from the fact that like, yeah, she
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: is catness, she's catness, she's got a prim she's got peta,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: she's got you know, we're looking through her. But at
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: the same time, like we want good things to happen
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: to her family, we want the districts to not be
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: in this shitty situation, but we don't want her to
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: give herself up either because we also we roll our
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: eyes when she does a thing that isn't for the
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: cause or whatever. But at the same time, like you
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: have to kind of get rid of certain things.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like she's more complex than like, for example,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Cuckhamsworth is the perfect example of
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: a revolutionary right, Like his story line is clear as
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: as a soldier and you know, he sees everything, but
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: she now becomes this thing that he's watching on TV,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: so he's consistent like yeah, like that's usually how I mean.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like it would happen that the whole thing
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: about some kind of army underground is like it's so stupid.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I just that's where they lost me. Yeah,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Like if it was actually Cuckhams were then his buddy
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: is doing this thing, it would make way more sense.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: What I will say though, the thing you were You
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: guys were also right in terms of later on where
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: like the comparison that I was making to Watchmen in
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: the first episode of the show, like that's the stuff
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: that I like. The thing that you don't like where
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: the revolutions.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: I told you is the thing that that's what we did. Yeah,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: that's what we told you. Also maybe yeah, we also
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: had this conversation. Yeah, it was like, yeah, Alex will
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: love this. When I started losing this movie, Alex was
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: gonna start getting it.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like because to me, like like I don't know,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: I think just because like I like reality depicted, but
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: I don't like reality, do you know what I mean?
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: So like like I'll watch a movie and be happy
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: that they picked it something in a very realistic way,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: but I still don't like reality.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind like television
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: or movie movies depicting messiness or horribleness or moral complicities
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: of situation. I don't know if I use that correctly
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: in like situations like some kind of social change, especially
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: like revolutionary type, Like I like all of that, and
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, like there are sacrifices. Yeah, you know,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: like all of that makes sense to me. I just
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: don't like when the when it feels like the overall
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: messages just don't do it.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Don't do it's not worth it, you know, like or
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: like you can't do.
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  Speaker 5: The whole movie is about it, so it can't be
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: that it's not worth it.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, Like, like to me, the idea
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: that it's not I think it's totally worth it. It
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: is totally worth the movie. These themselves portray it as
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: totally worth it because everybody wants it. It's just that
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: there's reality. It's like, you know, when people complain, they're
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: like people are often like, well like oh yeah, freedom
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: of speech, freedom of speech, and it's like yeah, but
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: freedom of speech is terrible sometimes, Like I.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: Don't know at the end, what they were just like, no,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have free elections. You know what, It's just
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: I know, sometimes you know what I mean, sometimes.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: All you need is a free election, Like, come on,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: it was upsetting.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: The dominion machines. But here's very inaccurate. Here's what I
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: liked about. Sometimes you need free elections because sometimes you
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: need free elections for everything to just happen again, because
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: it'll all just happen again.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the nihilism that I don't like. That's exactly
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: what you were liking about. Is this the the idea
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: of the circulous things of like, oh and then this
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: will be corrupted in this way, and then you revolutionaries
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: will bring them down, then they will be corrupted into
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: this way. And I'm like, sure, I get it, Yes,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: there are things do happen that way, but also, can
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: we just have a fucking nice revolution and.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe the polution the revolution the revel But the thing
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: is the revolution is our is the revolutionary's hubris like
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: the hubris that exists in snow, is that yes, I
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: can control with an iron fist.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: Well, and this is why you're gonna like, this is
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: why you're gonna like the prequel, because the prequel is
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: all about Snow.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: The prequel, the Snow is the main character. I know,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: I know that's what.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: It's an Anakin, but in a way that's amazing.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: That's way better than than I'm sure.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: I just happy to watch it with you.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: But but here, he he, that's what I assumed the original,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: the prequel is going to be.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: It's actually so perfect. It's it's it's and it was
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: really well done. Sorry started to interrupt you. I just
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: wanted to say. I just want to bring up one
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: scene because I don't want to not say it. But
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: I love that A trap that we don't see, that
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: we just have described to us and that we only
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: see the remnants of, is the blood rave.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: The gently slapping each other saw trap that they incepted
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: into our minds.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: Slaping. It was totally Jenitle alone, gently slapping.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: And that's where that's where she's panicking and saying TikTok.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I loved that. Yeah, that was great.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: Where honeybuddy is yeah, freaking out. She was so good
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: and like seeing her cast also like at this age
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: to another former sort of person that really stood out
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: that like Hollywood sort of and she had like a
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: similar haircut to Honeybuddy.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you fucking pracsim and lexicon? So like, is
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: that the movie?
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: That's the movie we learned that there's no distinct twelve
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: and it's very back to the Yeah, and then you're like, oh.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: My god, I have to keep watching It's Back to
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: the Future too, because it's like.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: It's totally I'm very excited to talk about the the
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: next one, Part three. I would I would give probably
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: how many rocking chairs you get market of ten I
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: would totally get because I was like, you know what
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: I already knew, Like I'm generally not a I don't
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: give tens to movies that have sequels to them. You're right,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: You're you're right.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: This would have been Pantheon in a way that makes
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: it such a strong ten.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's why I'm giving it a ten, because like,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: if I saw this one as a kid, that's the
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: face I saw as like a Back to the Future
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Part two first Aliens totally we saw if we saw
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: all these sequels first, yeah, we totally would have seen
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: this sequel for and we would have been like, oh
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: my god, oh my god. The first one not as
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: good not as good the second ones that are, but
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: then you've come back to the first one and be like, no, it's.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: Really good's actually really good.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. It did, and it red conned
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: the for my first score as well, because what would
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: you get the first one? Now, well, I mean I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: would give it a I would give it an eight
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: point five. So I gave it seven point five, so
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: I give it a full point more.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: I feel like, I feel like, if you watch it again,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: if you boomerang watch it, if you watch President Snow,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: if I watch.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: All of them for Yeah, that was actually I think
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: that was our plan. Like when we were like, oh,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: we're going to do it. I was so excited to
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: after the prequel rewatch them knowing that like it's just
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: there's something so satisfying about it.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: It's okay, I haven't seen the prequels. I'm really exciting
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: to watch them. So because really these three movies were
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: one big story. The first one is the first one,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: and then the the second three kind of one big.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: Movie back to the future for sure, where they're like yeah,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: and I think they were.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: That's how it was. They were written year after year.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: The first three, I mean it's three books, I'm assuming
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: because the three and four movie is just part one
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: part two, right, there's just yeah, and then this one,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: the new one, was written in twenty twenty.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: How did you guess? You know what I mean? So
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: it was like every movie it was a based on
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: a book as well.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: They're all based on based in a book by the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: same woman, and it was they were all made like
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: within a year after it was written or something.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: Or I think the guy from Triangle of Sadness is
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: presidents though.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: Oh that makes me want to see it so much more. Dude, No, no,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: is it not him?
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: Not him? No, because that guy's flew Ga gouga. No, yeah,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: no'sa no, but is he? I know what you mean.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: He's kind of similar looking, but it's.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: Not him anything. Don't the fact that you said it
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: was so I had a feeling that they were gonna
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: do that where it's like it must be one of
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: the characters and it's like how the how he got
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: corrupted or whatever?
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: So good, No, it's not even dude, it's so much better.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: It's so much better.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: Don't don't, yeah, don't don't praise to do hard. There's
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: one thing that's really upsetting about.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, you'll see the thing that's upseting is amazing.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: But but okay, so what would you give it on that?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: I think I do feel like this was uh, I'll
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: give it a nine.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: But you're I feel like you'd give it less if
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: you could give it an on a score, give it
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: an on a score.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna say. I would give
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: it a nine. Is because I think it is the
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: best movie, like the way it was made and the
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, the budget and the all the
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: choices and the characters and the costumes and the actors
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: and you know, I do think it was the best movie.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, but for me, it was just there
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: was some there was a lot of it was the
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: beginning of a disappointments in it that I kind of
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: didn't see the first time.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: So it loses a point for you for that.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it loses the point for me for that. And yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: between eight and nine, I would say.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would give it.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: I would give it. Maybe I have to give it
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: a ten. It's the one that made me like I
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: watched the first one on the plane and I was like,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: Hunger Games.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: It's it's interesting yeah.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 5: And then and then I watched the second one, I
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah, and like
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 5: because because you know the characters, and then like all
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 5: of the things, Like I remember having similar reactions you
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 5: when I watched the first one the first time around,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, pda, Oh it was annoying, PDA.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: But then I was like, oh, for good.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and like when he gets I mean, I know
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 10: you already hinted that, but when he gets like especially
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 10: dead eyed, like like cocked by the capitol dead eyed,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 10: like it's kind of amazing, like I now know that.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: We also we do find out that at the end,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: and they're like kind of whispering of like, oh, she's
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: not going to do it without the boy. She's not
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: going to do it without the boy. They're freaking out.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: Well, and honestly, that part of it was cool because
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of like communists sort of like revolutions are
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 5: very much like oh like they very much like talk
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: They're like not without this.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 5: Oh Like there's like rumors that start so fast it's
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 5: like panicked rumors.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like they did all of this because they
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: have to have heard be the symbol of it.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: That's it, and so the panic is real because yes, yeah,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: the Vedic is. It's cool. It's cool, it's a very
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 5: interesting anyway. I would I would give it a ten
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 5: out of ten, and I'm excited to watch the next
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: One's me too.
• 2:01:07
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