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123. Replay: Map Out Your Plan to Flight · The Shift Podcast

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Welcome to Frontline Static, we will get to hear interviews with
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some of my clients journeys of getting into flight and how they
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utilize coaching to help them create success of getting hired
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with less confusion and more ease.
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Make your dream a reality of getting into flight.
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Listen in as you hear some of the stories of the people
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getting there and come join the flight prep group.
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Hey everybody, welcome to the free training mapping out your
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plan to flight. I don't know how long it takes
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for everybody to be able to come on, so let's just do a little
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bit of a test since I can only see myself.
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If you guys will just put in the chat box that you can hear and
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you can see me. OK?
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I want to make sure that we're beginning on the right foot and
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you guys can hear everything that I'm saying.
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I want to make sure that I have the chat box on so that you guys
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can see if you guys could just drop a message in the chat and
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let me know if you can hear and see me.
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OK, let's just get started as well.
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I want to make this training very interactive.
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So I want to start out by saying you guys are in the right place.
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If you are here for the free training of mapping out your
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plan to flight. I actually have never taught
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this outside of the flight prep Academy and I just realized I
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want to put how to map out your plan to flight in more hands of
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more people. And so I really wanted to make
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this a free training today and give you guys the opportunity to
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get clarity on your plan of getting into flight nursing or
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flight paramedicine and then also give you an opportunity to
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ask questions workshop on this call.
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So let me just start out by by telling you guys a little bit
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about what we're going to talk about today and kind of what it
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looks like today. So if you guys, I I want to make
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this as interactive as possible. So if I'm going to just point
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out two things. First, in the chat box, you guys
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are able to interact with me there.
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So if you guys could let me know that you can see and hear me,
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OK, If someone could do that, that would be great.
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And then also in the chat box, if you can put where you're
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from, where are you currently in the process?
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I want to make this training around you guys that are here
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live. So let me know where you guys
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are in the process, whether you're a nursing student, a
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critical care nurse, how long you've been a critical care
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nurse or if you're not working critical care yet, where you are
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at? I'm going to cover all of those
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different places and then down at the bottom, if you guys look
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at the bottom, if you're familiar with Zoom webinar as
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well, there's AQ and a box at the bottom.
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OK. Oh, it says the chat's been
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disabled. OK, let me figure out how to
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work that for you guys. Thank you guys for putting that
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in the Q&A. OK, I think I fixed it.
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So now give it a try. Let me see if you guys are able
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to. OK, perfect.
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Thank you guys. Great, perfect.
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So now if you guys want to put where you're from, where you are
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in the process of getting to flight nursing or flight
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paramedicine, you guys know how to use a chat box.
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Then hopefully everybody can see that in the chat too as well.
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So there's a chat box, we're going to interact there.
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I'm going to talk with you guys there and find out kind of where
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you're at and then utilize the Q&A if you guys have any
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questions for me. So the way that this call is
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going to go is I'm going to do about a 20 minute training with
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you guys. I'm going to cover all these
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different areas of where you are in your journey.
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I'm going to cover nursing school directly after
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graduating, critical care, not working critical care.
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And if you've been a critical care nurse for one years, two
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years or three years plus, I'm going to be covering what your
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plan is of getting into flight. And then after that, about 20
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minutes of teaching you guys. I want to bring anybody on who
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wants to workshop their plan. So anybody who has questions
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about their plan or needs clarity by the end of this call,
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I want to make sure that every single person who's on here live
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is super clear about what their plan is and walks away from this
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one hour training is like, OK, this is what I need to be
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working on. And then after that, after we do
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some live workshops with you guys, I also am going to open it
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up to any questions and AQ and a session for you guys.
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If you have any questions for me that don't have to do with your
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plan, I'm going to open it up there as well.
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And then I'm going to answer any questions that are in the chat
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box. And then I'm going to, at the
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end, invite you guys to take this plan, put it into action,
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and I'm going to talk to you about the Flight Prep Academy
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and what's included in there. And for those of you guys who
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stay on, I have a special offer for you as well.
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So good. I see the chat box is working
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now. Great, I know sometimes this is
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hard 'cause I just see myself and I can't see you guys.
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So thank you for letting me know that you can hear me loud and
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clear. Everything is working.
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We have people from all over, looks like Nebraska, Alabama,
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someone starting paramedic school, ER nurse, nursing
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student, new grad Perfect. This is like a little bit of
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everybody. We have some Philadelphia 3 plus
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years, mixed ICU and ER great nursing student.
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Yay. You graduate in June of next
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year, perfect ER nurse for eight years in California.
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Great. I live in California.
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I flew and worked out of California.
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So I'm completely I know everything that California
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requires. Perfect.
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We're going to we're going to work on getting you hired
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Michelle, nursing student. And then we have someone in
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Florida and we have someone graduating next month, which is
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great. So this is perfect.
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I'm going to talk up and address all of these things.
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So as you guys, as I'm doing this like 20 minute training at
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the beginning, if questions pop up for you, put them in the Q&A
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section for me so that I can go back and have to sift through
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the comments. I can go back and answer those
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questions when we get to the live workshop point.
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And I want to offer you guys, like I know sometimes people are
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nervous about coming on and doing the live workshop, but I
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want to offer you guys at the beginning of this training, get
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what you want, get what you came for out of this, Get so clear
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that you know exactly what to be working on.
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So if you have questions, if you're anything like me, when I
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hear information, I write it down, I can process it and then
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I'm like, I got 100 questions. So I wanna offer you guys, even
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if you're nervous, come on during the live portion part
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because whatever you're asking questions on, you're going to
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answer someone else who has the same question.
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So get what you came for out of this training.
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I just really want to put this information in the hands of more
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people who want flight nursing and what flight paramedicine.
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Because here's the thing, anybody can get into flight.
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I want to offer you that any it's possible for anybody, but
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90% of the reason why people don't is because they don't know
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where to start. They feel stuck and they let
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their fear get the best of them. And they think that they can't
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have fear and take action at the same time.
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And I hope by the end of this free training with you guys, you
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guys will be so clear about what actions you should be taking
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that you also will be able to say to yourself, hey, now that I
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have clarity, this is what it looks like to have fear of
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failure and still take action towards it.
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So I'm going to give you guys a little bit of a courage boost to
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ask me questions during the workshop time and get very clear
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about what your plan is. I don't know if I'm going to be
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offering this again. So I'm so glad for those of you
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guys who did join me live that you are on the call today.
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So let me introduce myself first.
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Most of you guys know me from Instagram.
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I think that's where a lot of you guys have signed up or
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Tiktok. But my name's Janessa.
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I have been a nurse now for 15 years.
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Four of those I spent. Two of those I spent as a
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student nurse intern in a medical surgical ICU.
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I think we're like a Level 3, level 4 at the time, we didn't
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have a super, super high acuity level.
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And then I did four years in that same ICU.
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So I got a job six months prior to graduating, which I'm going
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to talk about how with nursing students you can do that today.
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And then I worked that job for four years.
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And then I, I interviewed for a flight position for a local
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flight company that was about an hour away and I got hired with
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them and I flew about 6 1/2, seven years out of that seven
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years of flying. I precepted and was part of
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interviews for, for six of those years, five and a half, six of
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those years. So because of that, I know what
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is required to get into flight. I know the questions they're
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asking in their interviews. I know the candidates that they
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are looking for. I know the qualities and I know
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the steps that you need to be taking to get there.
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And So what I in, in this coaching that I've kind of, I, I
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grew to really love, I found life coaching during a time
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where I was going through a really hard time.
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I had lost like 5 patients in the course of like 3 or 4 weeks
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as a flight nurse and three were pediatric and I was having a
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really hard time. So I hired my first life coach
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and after that I was like, I love these tools of being able
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to help help help Co workers. So I went to life coach school
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training through the life coach school.
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I did that for six months. And on the other side, I became
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a life coach and I didn't know that I was going to just be
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coaching people who wanted to get into flight, But that's what
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a lot of people started asking me about.
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And so four years ago I created a program called the flight prep
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Academy that helps anyone at any point of getting into flight.
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I do a combination of strategy and mindset and I've helped
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dozens of people get hired since then.
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So that's a little bit about me. I retired completely from
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nursing and flight nursing two years ago.
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I went all in on helping more people get into flight and these
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coaching services and this program.
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It kind of took off and grew. And as I was helping more
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people, I just found more and more people, more successive
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people getting there quicker. And so I went all in and helping
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more people do it. So that's a little bit about me.
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I talked about the chat box, the Q&A box and let's go ahead and
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to get get started on mapping out your plan to flight.
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Tell me in the chat box how many of you guys are super clear
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about your path of getting to flight.
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And if you aren't clear, tell me why you are stuck.
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And normally the common reasons why people are stuck is because
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they hear all these different requirements of getting to
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flight and they hear all these different certifications and
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things that they need. So I'd be interested to see.
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Okay, great. Someone said they're pretty
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clear. Perfect.
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What I'm going to teach you guys today, just to also be clear, is
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these are only EU, United States, US flight requirements.
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So anybody outside of the United States, actually these are
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Canada's too. I'm only going to be teaching on
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Canada and the United States flight requirements, but I'm
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going to give you it very, very simple.
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It is that you only need three years ER or ICU time.
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That is it. When I was trying to get into
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flight, they required certification, they required
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your CCRN or your CEN and they've really done away from
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that because there's a new Cames requirement that requires you to
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have your CFRN within one to two years of being hired into flight
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nursing. Now I don't recommend people
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getting that beforehand because your flight company will pay for
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you to get it The the sources, the time for you to study.
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So I just recommend unless you're a good test taker, don't
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get it until after you get hired.
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You just need three years of ER or ICU time.
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But there is a reason why people at three years, why everybody
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who works three years ER or ICU is not a flight nurse.
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And that's just simply because I see people over work and try to
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get more time and experience and then they can get get confused
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of the requirements. I'm here to tell you guys, it's
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only three years ER ICU time and you want to be working towards
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this as soon as you know you want flight.
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So I knew I wanted flight as soon as nursing school.
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So today what I'm going to talk to you about is the plan that I
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created for just people who are in nursing school.
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And then every step of the way you want to be working on this
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early on because it is true, it is competitive to get into
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flight, but you don't want to be doing and hustling and working
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on a bunch of things. You want to stay very focused on
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certain and things so that you're not hustling, you're not
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overworking. And my strategy of getting to
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flight helps work in your everyday life.
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Your school, your family takes account and most of the people I
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work with have two or three jobs.
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So it's not meant for you to hustle and overwork.
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So I'm going to show you the things that you really do want
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to be focusing on. These are the things now that
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I've ran this four years, the people who come to join my
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program earlier just get hired earlier.
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So I am now getting hired, people hired before the
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three-year mark who follow this strategy.
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I'm helping people get hired at the 2 1/2 year mark, 2 year
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mark. I just helped someone six months
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get hired at the one year mark. Now she's been a nurse for six
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years. She was AOR nurse and a float
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porn float pool nurse. But I helped her just focus on
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these simple strategies and it got her an interview before
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working an entire year of just VR and she had no certification
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or anything. They offered her an interview
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and offered her a position. So what I'm going to be teaching
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you today is also to not wait. The biggest mistake I see people
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make is wait until they hit that three-year mark and then try to
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go for a flight that's too late. People inside my program and
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people who really want it, they've been working on this and
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taking action since nursing school.
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And so if that is you, if you know you want flight, you want
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to start taking action towards it now.
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That's like the biggest thing I can teach you from this because
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it is so competitive. We want to be already taking
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action towards it and you want to be following these steps.
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I'm going to be talking to you about today because this is
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what's going to be creating interaction.
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So I wanted to 1st just talk about the requirements.
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Three years, ERICU, and if you're a medic, it's three years
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of being a medic. Don't confuse that by getting
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certs and trying to work ER and ICU.
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It's one or the other and I get asked which one's better and I
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say just pick the critical care department you're most
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interested in. ERICU.
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It doesn't matter. One's not better than the other.
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I say pick the one you're interested in because that's
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where your confidence in your critical thinking skills are
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going to naturally grow. The one you're most interested
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in. I was most interested in ICU, so
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I didn't go the ERL and it can be any specialty of that too.
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So it can be burn, ICU, pediatric ER, any kind of
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specialty that will get you closer to flight.
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And then I'm going to talk to you about the things that you do
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want to be focusing on that will actually get you hired.
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Here's the thing too, about waiting till your three-year
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mark. I know I'm fast forwarding a
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little bit, but I wanted to address this first.
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If you wait till your three-year mark and you just look at online
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applications, that's too late. These online applications 90% of
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the time, if not more, already spoken for by people who've been
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doing ride alongs and making connections and been following
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these simple steps. So let's say for example, you
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know you wanted flight since nursing school and you're
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following these steps. I'm going to teach you today.
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You are going to get asked by a flight team to interview prior
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to you meeting the requirement. And what I'm seeing flight
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companies do is make rosters. So they're asking you to
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interview because you're doing these ride alongs, you're making
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connections and then they are making, they're interviewing you
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ahead of time. Then they're making a roster
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that's like 6 months, 18 months to two years out.
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So when a position opens, they're automatically going to
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fill you with it. Or when you meet the time and
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requirement of 2 1/2 years or three years, they're going to
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automatically fill you with it. So you don't want to rely on
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looking for applications online. That's the worst thing that you
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can do if you're at the three-year mark.
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Those positions have already been spoken for by people on
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rosters and people being doing right alongs and making
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connections. So This is why what I'm going to
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teach today is really, really important.
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Don't be afraid to ask me questions.
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I don't see any new questions in the Q&A box yet.
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So as I'm saying, anything, ask me questions in there.
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I just want to clarify first the requirement, OK, Someone asked,
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they're not clear about what they do after they graduate.
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I'm going to talk about that in this plan.
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And a combat medic for five years.
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OK, So I get asked this a lot and military, civilian side,
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military and civilian side are very different.
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So my question for you, Hannah, is, are you licensed as a medic
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on the civilian side? If you are, that will count
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towards your critical care experience as a medic that five
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years, but you would have to get hired in as a flight medic
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first. And then they there's companies
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that will transition you to flight nursing after you
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graduate nursing school and you've been in that medic
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position for a certain amount of time.
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So that's my question for you, Hannah.
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And maybe you can clarify that for me and you can come on and I
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can ask you more questions about that too.
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OK, are you guys ready? Let's talk about mapping out
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your plan. So let's start with nursing
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students. Tell me, if you are a nursing
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student that's currently on there, can you put it in the
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chat? How many nursing students do I
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have? And I saw a couple, one from
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Denver. OK, great.
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Yay. Three people so far.
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OK, perfect. Let's talk about nursing
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students and then nursing students for those of you guys
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who are on, if you guys still have questions, put them in the
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Q&A for me and I can get to those too when when I'm done on
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this teaching portion. So nursing students, this is
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perfect. This is when I knew that I
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wanted to be a flight nurse. We had a company that was local
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and they would fly into the hospital that I worked in as a
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student intern and we'd take patients in and out of there.
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And this is like where I figured out the love of wanting to be a
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flight nurse. So I knew this earlier on.
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So this is the plan that I created for nursing students.
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For nursing students, one thing that Ioffer and recommend is for
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you to get a student intern position.
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Now, what this means is this is either a tech position or a
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student intern position or a student extern.
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I think nursing extern it's called at some places.
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So the ICU that I worked at, they actually had these student
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extern positions. They had two always ongoing
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going. And the reason why Icus or ERS
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love to do this is because this is like a two year basically
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interview with the department. They get to know you for two
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years. They get to kind of like read
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you into the ICU earners that they want you to be.
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It's it's great for you and it's great for them.
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Also with student external positions, they will work around
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your schedule most of the times because they want to hire you
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after that two years. I did an ADN degree.
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You do not need your BSN for flight.
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You just need your ADN. So I did my ADN.
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So it's great for that because they get to know you the two
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years, they get to shape and mold you into the IC or ER nurse
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that they want you to be. And it's like a two year
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interview. What's also great about that is
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most of your managers will work around your your schedule as a
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student. So I've worked full time as a
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student extern. I worked three night shifts a
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week and went to nursing school four days.
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So I was there seven days a week and but on the really heavy
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student clinical. Rotations or semesters like for
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example, when I think they call it capstone now, like when you
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do your capstone the last semester I was super busy.
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So because of that, my nurse manager would be like okay, you
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can only do one this week, that's fine.
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So they'll work around your schedule because obviously they
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want you to work in their department and choose them in
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the end. The great thing about having a
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student extern position like this is that this will most
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likely give you an offer prior to graduation.
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You want to receive an offer as a nursing student in critical
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care. I say three to four months prior
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to graduation, but I got mine six months.
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So if you can even do it six months, that's great.
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I asked my nurse manager, am I going to be getting an offer for
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you prior to graduation? And I signed an offer letter six
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months before graduating. I say 3:00 to 4:00 because three
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to four months, you're already in your last semester.
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You're worrying about capstone, you're thinking about NCLEX,
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you're thinking about all these things.
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You do not want to be spending time at your last semester
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thinking about boards and getting a job.
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You want to have that dialed in. Also, you want to work critical
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care post graduation. So getting a new grad critical
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care position is not impossible, but you want to be thinking
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ahead. The number one thing that I see
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common mistake that I see nursing students make is they
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don't plan ahead. They're so stuck in their
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current situation and clinicals and all of those things that
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they're not planning ahead. If you know that you want to
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work critical care and you know that you want flight, you got to
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plan ahead. Otherwise, you're going to be
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stuck in a department Med surg or a sniff or a place that
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you're not going to be wanting to work and it will be harder to
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get to critical care from there. I'm going to repeat that.
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People think it's easier to go Med search for a year and then
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jump into critical care. I just don't see a lot of people
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do it and people who do do it, It's so hard because after you
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graduate nursing school, you learn how to become a Med surge
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nurse. And then after that, you love
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your hours, you love the people you're working with.
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And then you have to learn how to become a critical care nurse
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versus nursing student who just goes straight into critical
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care. That's the only nursing that you
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know. And so you don't have to relearn
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anything. The other reason why I suggest
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getting an offer three to four months prior or even 6 months
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prior to graduation is you do not want to be worrying about
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boards after graduation and getting a critical care job as a
22:19
new grad. You just don't want to be
22:21
preparing for interviews and seeking out nurse managers in
22:23
that way. You want to have it solidified
22:25
ahead of time so you can just focus on boards.
22:27
You also do not want to be waiting when everybody has just
22:31
graduated. So we got these months right,
22:33
August, September, December, January, May, June, July.
22:37
That is the common months people are graduating nursing schools
22:40
and nurse managers know that. I was a nurse manager.
22:42
I did a small stamp for like 9 months.
22:44
I know when people graduate and so you're inundated with
22:47
applications at that time and you're just not getting to all
22:50
of them. So you want to make sure you're
22:53
not seeking out critical care, new grad positions at the same
22:56
time as everybody in those months who graduated and you're
22:58
just focused on boards. Something to think about, and
23:03
you might have to look state to state, is there's an interim
23:05
permit that you can work with. So I worked in under an interim
23:09
permit after I graduated. You can get that and apply for
23:11
that as soon as you graduate nursing school, whatever your
23:15
day is post graduation. And your interim permit is
23:17
usually good for six months or until you pass the NCLEX.
23:20
So once I pass the NCLEX, then I had my RN license, but I worked
23:24
under my IP with another registered nurse in the ICU
23:27
until then. So something to be thinking
23:29
about. I don't feel like a lot of
23:30
nursing schools talk about that. So something to consider is your
23:33
intern permit. OK, now I know what you guys are
23:36
thinking. If they don't offer student
23:39
intern positions at the hospitals that you're working
23:41
at, you want to ask about them. So lots of nurse managers, they
23:47
can make these positions because it doesn't go under any of their
23:54
numbers as far as staffing. This is just like a kind of a
23:57
hidden position and most nurse managers want to do that because
24:01
they want to start training you ahead of time and and
24:04
interviewing you for a position. So how can you get these if you
24:09
are a new grad or you are a nursing student who wants to get
24:12
one of these positions or even a tech job in the Eric, you don't
24:16
need any prior experience. You don't need your CNA license
24:18
or anything. What I recommend is you going in
24:23
person and talking to these nurse managers.
24:25
So what you want to do is every clinical that you have, every
24:29
hospital you go to, you want to make a connection with every
24:32
single ERICU manager, whatever, any critical care department,
24:38
you want to take your resume with you and you want to have
24:41
your resume always with you at clinicals or make a separate
24:44
trip and express to them, Hey, I want to work in your department.
24:48
I want after graduation. Do you have a student intern
24:51
position available right now? So you want to go in person as
24:55
much you can. That is the best way to make
24:57
connections with nurse managers. Do it on your clinical days.
25:01
You guys are already there. You have a little bit time.
25:03
Make connections. Let them know.
25:05
Give them your resume and and ask if you can start
25:09
interviewing, especially if you are getting ready to graduate.
25:12
Say hey, I'm really interested in working in this department.
25:14
Are you are you doing any interviews for positions ahead
25:16
of time? Ask about student intern
25:18
positions. They can make those.
25:20
The floor that I worked on that I was a nurse manager.
25:22
I made two student intern positions because I really
25:27
wanted to have nursing students on my floor so that I could hire
25:30
them directly after graduation. It's the best thing that you can
25:33
do for a unit, so make sure your resume is ready with every
25:36
clinical. Start reaching out to managers.
25:38
If you cannot reach out to managers on clinical or in
25:41
person, then you want to call them.
25:43
Call the units, call the department, start having
25:45
conversations with them. Or also third best option is to
25:48
get an e-mail. Even right now, it's so
25:52
competitive to work in critical care that especially as a new
25:55
grad, the only way that you're going to get into critical care
25:58
is for you to go in person, call, just really go at it and
26:03
show them that you really want it.
26:05
When I was a nurse manager, it was like right when COVID hit
26:08
and I had 60 employees and I needed to go from 60 to 90.
26:12
And I had so many nursing students and so many people
26:15
interested in the floor that I only brought people to
26:20
interviews that either came to my floor and came to my office
26:24
or called me directly. That's the only way that I
26:27
brought people into interviews. And that's the same for most
26:29
hospitals. They have an HR department that
26:31
works it. So if you apply for any of these
26:33
positions, it just goes to the HR department and the nurse
26:36
manager never gets it until they physically ask for that person's
26:40
name and they pull the application.
26:42
So you want to be the person that works at it goes at it.
26:44
Show them how much you want it and have conversations with some
26:48
of these managers. This will help you grow in
26:51
nervousness and speaking with nurse managers as well.
26:54
So that's nursing students. That's what you want to be
26:57
doing. That's what I recommend a
26:58
student interposition. Get your resume critical care
27:00
ready. And also you want to start
27:02
practicing for interviews. How do you practice for critical
27:05
care interviews in a position that you've never done before?
27:08
So you want to start thinking about who you are, what you
27:11
value, the team player you are, past experiences, clinical
27:15
experience that you had and bring that all to, to talking to
27:20
these nurse managers and practicing those.
27:23
OK. So that is nursing students now.
27:26
I have nursing students in my program right now that are doing
27:29
all of these things. They felt so comfortable with
27:32
the plan that we've mapped out that they are also doing ride
27:35
alongs and base visits. So I want to put that out there
27:39
to my nursing school students. If you guys feel comfortable
27:42
with your plan, which everybody does who's in my program, you
27:45
will start to do base visits and ride along.
27:48
I want to be able to add that for those of you guys who feel
27:50
comfortable doing that, you can do a ride along and a base visit
27:53
at any point in any of your career as a flight nurse.
27:58
And it really depends on the company.
27:59
But as a flight nurse, anybody who asked me to do a base visit
28:03
or a ride along, whether they were in healthcare or not, I had
28:05
to get OK by my manager, but I said yes to everybody.
28:08
So nursing students, you get your plan down, you feel really
28:11
good about it. Start doing ride alongs and
28:13
making connections with light companies and base visits.
28:15
I teach you exactly how to do that inside the program and how
28:18
to prepare for them. OK, that's nursing students,
28:22
hopefully nursing students. If you have any questions, put
28:24
that in the question box and we'll go over that there.
28:27
OK. Oh, right along.
28:30
She asked what a right along is. I'm going to be talking about
28:31
right alongs here coming up in the first year, second year and
28:34
3rd year. OK, so now we're in post
28:37
graduation, first year of working critical care.
28:41
Who is on the call, who is in within either just graduated and
28:49
is in within their first year of working critical care ERICU or
28:53
first year of being a medic. OK, great, one person so far.
29:02
OK, perfect. OK, great.
29:04
We have a lot of people, OK, first years talking to you right
29:08
now. Oh, and Vinny, you put level 1.
29:10
I wanted to just address that too.
29:12
I want to let you guys know flight companies are not just
29:14
looking for level 1. They're looking from rural bed
29:17
all the way to level 1. So don't.
29:18
I also don't want you guys to feel like you have to chase
29:21
level 1 experience. They're looking for people who
29:25
are rural bed, critical access centers because that makes a
29:28
really resourceful nurse and anywhere from level 1.
29:32
So don't feel like you have to only work level 1 experience,
29:35
but great if you have that. Vinny.
29:38
OK, so let's talk about first year of working critical care or
29:42
just graduated. If you just graduated, you want
29:44
to follow all of those things. You want to get yourself into
29:47
critical care. Do not.
29:48
This is the biggest thing I want to tell you guys.
29:50
Do not settle for not working critical care your first year.
29:55
Do not listen to the people that say you have to work Med search
29:59
for a year. It's simply not true.
30:00
I have 90 people in my program right now who are all working
30:04
critical care and who have most of them gotten jobs straight out
30:07
of nursing school in critical care.
30:08
It is not true. Just be the person who's willing
30:11
to hear people say that and go out anyway and keep going at it
30:14
till you get the job that you want.
30:16
OK, so first year in critical care, in your mapped out plan,
30:21
you you want to first of all be transitioning confidently into
30:27
the unit. So you want to have someone, a
30:29
preceptor that you can really either a preceptor or a friend
30:32
who works in your unit. That one you can trust, you can
30:36
go to you can vent to you can ask stupid questions too.
30:40
You want to have that resource and that support a mentor.
30:42
I had one in every single step of the process I had.
30:45
So have that person. So that's part of your plan in
30:50
your mapped out plan. After you've spent like the
30:53
initial couple months, like really transitioning into the
30:56
role with your preceptor and all of that and learning all of the
30:59
new things. As a critical care nurse, you
31:01
want to start doing ride alongs immediately and making
31:04
connections with flight companies.
31:06
I teach you inside the flight prep Academy how to ask for
31:09
them, how to do them. But I recommend doing 6 to 8 a
31:13
year. So that comes out to three to
31:14
four in a six month period. I know that sounds daunting
31:18
because it's like scary to think about asking, but once I I teach
31:22
you the process of how to ask them and go about doing it, you
31:26
are going to get them like this. I had someone who joined the
31:28
flight prep Academy, gosh, it's been about six months.
31:32
She went through my jump start flight course and she started
31:36
asking for ride alongs in the way that I taught her and she
31:38
got six in one month. Now I don't recommend doing 6 in
31:42
one month because I don't want you guys to get overwhelmed.
31:44
I know you guys are working two or three jobs.
31:46
You have school and you have families.
31:48
So that's why I recommend three to four in a six month period.
31:50
That's about 1:00 every other month and you can keep doing it
31:54
with the same companies. You want to do this because ride
31:58
alongs are the opportunity for you to get to know them and them
32:02
to get to know you. There's a couple reasons why
32:04
this is so important. I call this speed dating.
32:07
So you don't want to end up at the end of your three years and
32:10
start speed dating. Couple a bunch of companies and
32:13
then choose one to marry. When I say speed dating is you
32:16
want to date people this whole three years, you want to find
32:20
out which ones do you really like, which bases and companies
32:22
you really like and you want them to get to know you.
32:25
You want to go with different bases, different crews every
32:28
time. And sometimes that means, hey, I
32:31
really liked doing a ride along with this base.
32:33
I want to get in another ride along with them.
32:35
And most companies, if they really liked you and if they
32:39
have a ride along policy, usually they'll let you a couple
32:42
3-4 times a year if they really like you.
32:44
I have a a couple of people in the flight prep Academy right
32:46
now. They really like them.
32:48
They're going to monthly clinical education meetings with
32:50
them. So ride alongs are not hard to
32:53
get. I recommend doing three to four
32:55
in a six month period. Start making connections with
32:57
them. This is also important too, so
32:59
that you can see what it's like to do the job.
33:01
You're going to be in the helicopter seat, You're going to
33:03
see what it's like. You're going to taste it.
33:05
You're going to taste the the fuel.
33:07
You're going to see what it kind of patients, the high acuity,
33:10
what it's like to be a flight nurse, what it's like to be a
33:12
flight medic, what it's like to work with a tight knit team.
33:15
You're gonna experience it. And so it's really good to do
33:18
that and for them to be able to get to know you in a relaxed
33:22
environment. Ride alongs are important
33:25
because you don't want to end up in a flight interview and that's
33:28
the first time they met you. When they know you and they've
33:32
been doing ride alongs with you, they know who you are, what you
33:34
value, the team player you are. They've got to know you.
33:36
They've invited you to an interview.
33:38
They already bought in on you. They already want you to be a
33:41
part of the team and doing a flight interview where they
33:43
already want you is just much different.
33:46
And that's the position that you want to put yourself in.
33:48
That's what's going to create success in the first flight
33:50
interview that you have. So you want to do ride alongs,
33:54
You want to do make connections, you want to do base visits, you
33:56
want to go to community outreach events.
33:58
I teach you exactly how to do that inside the Flight Prep
34:00
Academy. That's what you want to start
34:02
doing in your one year after you've transitioned in and you
34:05
feel comfortable into the role. And of course, you want to still
34:09
continue to grow your confidence and your critical thinking
34:11
skills in the department that you're currently in from here on
34:15
out too, at year one, post graduation and getting into
34:18
critical care. And even if you're not in
34:19
critical care yet, you want to get your resume flight ready.
34:22
What I mean by that is you really want to focus on
34:26
leadership qualities, not time and experience on your flight
34:30
resume. What they're looking for is
34:33
where you bought, gone above and beyond your staff role, any
34:37
leadership roles you've you've done, any education that you've
34:40
helped roll out, anything where you've really stood out or any
34:44
recognition that you've gotten. That's what flight companies are
34:47
looking for. Inside the flight prep Academy.
34:49
I have a whole course that get your flight resume ready and
34:52
then we work your flight resume so that it's good before you
34:56
start reaching out and you start doing right along so that you
34:58
can give that to the companies. Flight resumes are the same
35:00
thing as critical care resumes. I teach you nursing students how
35:04
to get your resume critical care ready.
35:07
It's the same way and that course is all inside the flight
35:11
prep Academy. OK, so that's year 1.
35:13
You want to be growing your critical thinking skills and
35:15
your confidence at the same time while doing ride alongs and
35:17
making these connections. OK, let's move to if you're in
35:20
two years of working critical care, anybody on who has had two
35:27
years, two years or plus anybody or all you guys, nursing
35:37
students in year 1, eight years. Oh yeah, that's right, Michelle.
35:41
OK, perfect. OK, I'm going to talk about two
35:46
years with you guys right now just because this is a really
35:48
pertinent year. So if you've worked critical
35:51
care for two years or some of you guys are one year and you're
35:54
getting ready to come up. OK, great.
35:55
Christopher, you're at your three years.
35:57
So the second year is a really important year because this is
36:01
the year, the biggest year, After two years, I see people
36:05
become comfortable in their department.
36:07
They love the people they're working with.
36:08
They love their schedule, they're getting in the groove.
36:10
They're feeling more confident. They're not afraid to speak up,
36:13
talk to intensivist doctors, make recommendations, work off
36:16
their protocols. OK, so two years, that's where
36:19
you just start to feel a little bit more comfortable.
36:21
That's where you're like not getting diarrhea as you're
36:23
walking to your department because you're so nervous.
36:26
That was me for the first two years.
36:27
I was so nervous, but two years is where you're starting to feel
36:31
a little bit more comfortable. You're incompetent in your
36:33
skills. This is the year that I see
36:36
people move departments. This is the year that I see
36:39
people say this is kind of like a rural bed ICU.
36:43
Maybe it's like a level 4. I'm not seeing a high level of
36:45
acuity, so let's move to a different level 1 ICU or let's
36:48
move all together to ER or opposite.
36:51
I see people in ER be like, oh, I'm getting more comfortable.
36:53
Let's get some ICU experience. This is the worst thing that you
36:57
can do for you yourself. This is the biggest mistake I
37:00
see critical care nurses make. When you jump to a different
37:03
department, you have to learn everything over again.
37:07
You have to learn the protocols. You have to learn, oh,
37:10
especially if you go from ER to ICU or ICU to ER, this is the
37:13
year that you want to hang in and you want to override the
37:16
part of your brain that's like uncomfortable.
37:18
This is the year where you want to start filling in in
37:20
leadership roles. This is the year where you want
37:23
to stay in your department and the part of you that's like, I
37:26
need to get time, more time and experience.
37:28
I want to tell you right now, flight companies are not looking
37:30
for time and experience. Flight companies are looking for
37:32
leaders. They're looking for who you are,
37:34
what you value, the team player you are.
37:37
And so This is why the second year is so important.
37:40
In this second year, you want to focus on doing fill in roles.
37:43
You want to do fill in RT, fill in charge nurse.
37:47
If you don't want to do those kind of roles, that's OK.
37:50
There's other things that you can do.
37:51
You can be on committees, UBC committees or any kind of
37:55
committees, any kind of rolling out, any new training or new
37:58
devices. You guys, we all know how much
38:02
devices, training either in the EMS world or healthcare world,
38:06
pumps, ventilators, everything changes.
38:09
Be that person that steps up and is a super user.
38:12
She could be a super user. You want to be taking nursing
38:16
students at this time. You want to be volunteering to
38:18
take new hires and precepting new people.
38:21
You want to do anything that is going to go be above and beyond
38:25
your staff position, even if it's failing roles.
38:28
This is really important because this is really what you want to
38:30
highlight on your flight resume and this is what flight
38:33
companies are looking for. How much of these roles have you
38:35
taken on and how much of A leader were you in your
38:39
department? You also want to continue on
38:41
with ride along. So by your second year, you're
38:43
just still doing 6 to 8 a year. By the 2nd year, the people who
38:47
come to work with me, you're making really valuable
38:50
connections with flight companies.
38:52
I have a couple people who've gotten flight suits already at
38:55
the second year mark and they're like, hey, we really want you.
38:58
We're just waiting for you to get the rest.
39:00
One more year or a year and or a half a year or one more year
39:03
left. So here's your flight suit.
39:05
Can you come to our monthly trainings?
39:07
And they're already treating them like as a staff member, so
39:11
or they're saying, hey, come and do a right along with us at
39:13
least once a month or every other month.
39:15
This is where you want to be at your second year.
39:18
OK, I think that pretty much sums up the second year.
39:22
So if anyone has questions on that, put that in the question
39:24
box. I'm going to move now to 2 1/2
39:27
three-year mark. So tell me in the chat.
39:30
I know Michelle and Christopher, you guys are 8 years and three
39:32
years. Who is and I'm just going to say
39:35
2 1/2 year mark and beyond. Let me know if that's you
39:41
besides Michelle and Christopher.
39:43
I'm going to address you guys now and your plan, OK?
39:49
No one so far, but I'm going to talk about it, OK?
39:52
At this 2 1/2 year mark, if you have a mapped out plan and you
39:55
have been doing all of these things, the 2 1/2 year mark,
39:58
everybody who is in the flight prep Academy with me, who works
40:01
with me at the 2 1/2 year mark, we're already prepping for
40:04
flight interviews. I'm helping people get hired at
40:06
the 2 1/2 year mark. It is possible with flight
40:08
companies. Flight companies, if they like
40:11
you so much, they can get approval from the higher ups to
40:14
not have the three years critical care and get approval
40:17
to hire you. So 2 1/2 year mark is really
40:21
where I recommend asking for interviews and prepping for
40:24
flight interviews. So this is really where you want
40:27
to be doing that on top of having your flight resume ready,
40:30
on top of doing right along 6 to 8 a year and base visits, making
40:36
connections like that all counts as right alongs at the 2 1/2
40:41
year mark plus year mark. You want to start prepping for
40:44
interviews specifically. Now where I see people go wrong
40:48
with this is they open up their CCRN book or they open up their
40:51
CNN book and they just look at all of the clinical stuff and
40:56
flight interviews are, unless you've been in one, are nothing
40:58
like you have ever expected. So I teach you exactly what to
41:02
expect in my flight interview prep course, which is inside the
41:06
flight prep Academy for flight. And I'm going to tell you
41:08
exactly what they look like right now.
41:10
Flight interviews. Most flight companies are
41:12
expecting you to take a critical care test.
41:14
Some of them require you to pass the critical care test prior to
41:17
even getting to the interview position.
41:20
So you're going to have a critical care test.
41:21
Most of those are very basic. Now you have to remember they're
41:24
giving that not only to nurses, but to, so they're not only,
41:29
they're not just going to be talking about ventilators and
41:32
lots of drips. It's going to be a lot of
41:35
scenarios in your critical care test.
41:39
So that's the first part. What I'm seeing with most flight
41:43
companies is that 3/4 of your flight interview are clinical
41:47
scenarios. Now what that means for nurses
41:49
and nurses have the hardest time with this.
41:51
And how I prepare you is that for clinical scenarios, this is
41:55
verbalizing them. They're going to give you a
41:57
scenario and then they're going to ask you to lead it and to
41:59
verbalize it. For most nurses, this is hard
42:02
for us to do. And I train you exactly how to
42:04
do this because we're used to ACLS, PALS, BLS, where you have
42:09
that mannequin and all the things in front of us.
42:11
And we work that and we talk about it and we show it.
42:13
Case scenarios for flight companies are they give you a
42:17
verbal case scenario and then they just tell you to verbalize
42:19
through your mind what's going through.
42:21
So because of that, I give you a systematic process on how to get
42:25
through any case scenario and to practice them and which exactly
42:30
you need to be following line for line for line to get to your
42:33
case scenario, to lead it and to successfully pass it, even if
42:38
it's a scenario you never had before.
42:39
So when I get in a flight, I never had a Pete patient, I
42:41
never had a cardiac device, I never had an infant, and I got
42:44
case scenarios on those things. So I really teach you how to
42:49
verbalize any case scenario and how to successfully pass it off
42:52
and lead it. And then I teach you minimally
42:55
what you need to know clinically going in.
42:57
I teach you minimally what you need to know about ventilators,
43:00
what you need to know about RSI drugs, and what you need to know
43:02
about intubation because you will get asked RSI and
43:06
intubation questions and ventilator questions in the case
43:08
scenarios. So that's what I'm seeing is
43:10
most companies now, they do the case scenarios.
43:13
If you pass off those case scenarios, then they bring you
43:16
to a panel interview. And I want you guys to know for
43:19
those of you guys, they're at the 2 1/2 year marker plus panel
43:22
interviews. You have a mixture of people.
43:24
You have about 6 to 8 people on the panel interview.
43:27
They're from all over the United States.
43:28
So even though you're interviewing for one base,
43:32
because you have people over the United States, you could get
43:35
your, it's not linear to get to flight.
43:37
I know you might apply an interview for one base, but they
43:40
might offer you 5 different bases after they interview you.
43:43
Or maybe they give that position to someone else.
43:46
But because you interviewed so well, they're going to come back
43:48
and say, hey, actually I have positions open other places.
43:51
I have that happen inside the flight prep Academy all the
43:53
time. They interview for one position
43:55
and they gave it to someone else and they come back and they say,
43:57
actually I have a position closer to home too.
43:59
You want that? And they're like, yeah, I want
44:01
that. So you got to leave a little bit
44:03
of magic. And no, it's not linear.
44:04
And know there's people from all of the United States in these
44:07
panel interviews. I teach you inside my panel
44:11
interview prep course what types of questions to expect and how
44:15
to authentically answer them to showcase you.
44:18
I really teach you how to get up out of your, out of their head
44:22
and into yours. The number one question I get
44:24
asked about flight interviews is how do I tell them what they
44:27
want to hear? And I have to rewire you guys
44:30
and teach you how do you stay in your own head?
44:33
Explain to them the value of you, the team player of you.
44:37
And I really show you how to do that inside my flight interview
44:41
prep course with the panel interview questions.
44:43
I give you a subset of panel interview questions, common ones
44:46
that I see and common ones to like kind of go through and
44:49
authentically answer and then we practice them together.
44:51
So panel interviews I'm we're now seeing are coming after case
44:55
scenarios. So you have to pass out the case
44:57
scenarios before they'll get you to the panel interview.
44:59
So those are the three parts that I really cover in the panel
45:02
interview. I'm sorry, in the flight
45:05
interview prep course that I do offer inside the flight prep
45:07
Academy. And that's how you want to
45:08
prepare. You don't want to prepare by
45:10
looking at a bunch of material and studying that.
45:13
That's just like not going to be sufficient enough for you,
45:15
especially nurses who don't know how to verbalize case scenarios.
45:18
OK, so at the 2 1/2 three-year mark, flight interview, flight
45:22
resume ready, instead of asking for ride alongs, you want to
45:25
start asking for interviews. If you're at the two and half
45:27
year mark, instead of saying, hey, I'm Janessa and I'm really
45:30
interested in doing a ride along with your company, I always
45:33
offer for you to lead with, hey, I'm Janessa.
45:36
I really would love to interview for your company and work for
45:39
your company. And you guys do ride alongs.
45:42
I'm noticing that ride alongs are now becoming interviews.
45:44
So as soon as you get a ride along, you want to prepare for
45:47
your ride along day because those are often lead insurance
45:50
to interviews and the lead insurance to to getting asked to
45:56
interview for the company or positions.
45:58
So you want to be doing all the things that I talked about
46:01
before, leadership roles, standing outgoing, above and
46:04
beyond doing the six to eight ride alongs.
46:06
And then at the two and half year mark, you really want to
46:08
get in there and start doing the flight interview prep.
46:11
I recommend this at 2 and half years because they might really
46:14
like you on a ride along. And I've had this happen to
46:17
about 3 of my clients in the last couple months.
46:19
They're like, we really liked you.
46:21
Can you come in tomorrow and interview And they're like, OK,
46:23
so you want to just be ready. You don't want to be preparing
46:26
for an interview right before your interview.
46:29
You want to have your preparation already done.
46:31
You feel good so that if and when they ask you, especially if
46:33
it's on the spot and the right along, you're ready and you feel
46:37
good about confidently showing up.
46:40
So that's the 2 1/2 years plus Mark.
46:45
I think that I went through everybody.
46:48
So at this point I want to answer questions and I want to
46:53
bring anybody on live who would love to workshop their call or
46:58
workshop their plan. And don't be shy because I know
47:01
if you have questions, someone else does too.
47:04
So what I'm going to have you guys do is there's a raise hand
47:10
button at the bottom. Just raise your hand and I'll
47:12
bring you on. Ask me questions about your plan
47:15
and let's workshop it together. And if you guys have any
47:20
questions, you can put them in the question box too.
47:23
But I want to make sure each and every one of you guys who is on
47:26
today know exactly and are very clear about their plan.
47:30
So let's do it guys. Who's ready to workshop their
47:34
plan? OK someone asked does it have to
47:41
be level 1 trauma or any critical care experience work?
47:43
I think I answered that does not have to be level 1, can be
47:48
rural, bed, critical access, anywhere in between.
47:50
I just highly recommend stay in one department.
47:52
Don't move around you guys that's kind of a bad thing that
47:54
you can do for yourself because you want to just establish
47:56
leadership roles and teamwork. So does not have to be level 1.
48:00
In fact, I flew for a company where there's a level 1 trauma
48:04
hospital, so we had a lot of interviews with level 1 nurses
48:08
and we didn't always go with them because we weren't looking
48:11
for time and experience. Can you work 3 years of PEDs and
48:15
then do? Yes.
48:17
Becca, I'm so glad you asked that because I always forget to
48:19
mention that. I'm just going to say this.
48:22
This is my opinion, but I do think other flight clinicians
48:25
agree with me. Pediatric nurses have the
48:28
easiest transition into flight and I'm going to tell you why.
48:31
It's because PEDs is the scariest thing for every flight
48:34
nurse. So if you're already a pediatric
48:36
nurse and then you go into flight, they just make a great
48:38
transition because it's the thing that you have the least
48:40
amount of anxiety about. My first intubation was a
48:43
three-year old PEDs patient and I was like so freaked out.
48:48
And so yes, that's perfect. PEDs nurses make the best flight
48:52
nurses. And I think in my opinion,
48:54
transition the easiest into flight because you're used to
48:57
having PEDs patients. They don't make you as anxious.
48:59
So yes, you can go into adult flight.
49:01
The only caveat that I get asked with this is NICU, NICU.
49:04
If you're a NICU nurse, you got to go into NICU transport.
49:07
I haven't seen a lot of NICU nurses be able to bridge into
49:10
PEDs or adult transport. But yeah, if you're if you're a
49:14
PEDs critical care nurse, you can absolutely transition it
49:19
into adult flight. And if you and the other way
49:23
around too, if you're an adult critical care nurse, you could
49:28
you could transfer into PEDs as well.
49:30
Good question. Oh my gosh, does everybody feel
49:34
good about their plan? Everybody feels clear.
49:37
I answered everything. No one wants to workshop it.
49:41
OK, OK, great. I'm going to bring some people
49:43
on. What should we expect doing ride
49:45
alongs and how would we go about asking for one?
49:49
So this is a great question, Michelle, I really teach you
49:52
inside the flight prep Academy how to exactly, and I don't have
49:55
time to go over this on this training, how to exactly ask for
49:58
ride along so that you can secure them.
50:00
And then I also have another course that's how to prepare for
50:03
your ride along day, what to eat, what to bring them, what
50:06
questions to ask, what to wear, what to bring that day, how to
50:10
show up, what the flight crew expects out of you on your ride
50:14
along day so that all those courses are inside the member
50:17
portal of the Flight Prep Academy.
50:19
Good question. OK, did I see?
50:21
I thought I saw a couple of people raise their hand.
50:25
OK, Christopher, I am going to bring you on.
50:39
Can you hear and see me, Christopher?
50:41
Yeah sorry having some trouble. Should I should I try to cross
50:46
train as a paramedic before applying for a flight nurse
50:50
position? And should I also consider I
50:55
live in a state where they have pre hospital registered nurse
51:00
certification? You have to have the PHRN.
51:04
Yeah. OK I love that you asked this
51:07
because I forgot to address this as well.
51:09
So for most nurses, I really highly don't recommend getting
51:12
any pre hospital experience like either as an EMT or a medic,
51:15
because for most companies in the US, they don't require you
51:18
to have the EMT or a medic. And you're going to learn all of
51:24
that as as you become a flight nurse.
51:26
So like for example, for me, I only worked ICU, so I had zero
51:29
pre hospital experience or year experience.
51:31
And then the company I flew for did predominantly 911 calls, but
51:35
they taught me everything I needed to know.
51:36
And what's great about that is the most flight companies, their
51:41
team has a flight medic and a flight nurse.
51:43
And the reason why it's set that way is because medics have all
51:47
of it expertise and pre hospital experience and then nurses bring
51:51
the expertise in the hospital experience and it's just a
51:53
great, it's a great partnership. I just think it takes away from
52:01
you what you want to be focusing on, which is right along to
52:04
making connections when you do the pre hospital.
52:05
And you definitely don't need that.
52:08
But for you, there are companies that do require the PHRN.
52:11
Remind me, Christopher, how far along are you in the process?
52:15
So I've got 3 plus years of critical care experience, but I
52:20
got a total of like 10 years of experience like like total in my
52:25
career. OK.
52:26
What other department did you work?
52:29
So I've pretty much everything outside of OR, PACU.
52:36
I've done observation, Med surg, progressive care.
52:41
OK, perfect. We want to definitely talk about
52:42
that in your interview because I think that's so cool and I think
52:45
that's like something that you can bring that's going to be a
52:47
different applicant for you, for you have been able to see like
52:49
all those different departments. So something to consider
52:53
bringing up in your interview are the companies, are all the
52:57
companies that you're looking at require the PHRN.
53:02
Not all the companies, it's just something that I've heard that
53:06
it that is recommended to do to get your PHRN before applying
53:12
do. Any of them require it.
53:16
I don't think they require it necessarily, OK.
53:20
It's just anyone that I've talked to that's been been doing
53:23
flight said get PHRN, get that PHRN certification.
53:27
OK, I love that you said that because you're going to get a
53:30
whole gamut of different responses from people who are
53:32
already flying because what happens is after we get into
53:35
flight, we're like, oh, this would have been good for us to
53:38
go this. Like if I would have said that,
53:39
I would have been like, oh, this would have been good for me to
53:42
have a little bit of ER experience.
53:43
But if it's not required, it's, I think it's just really
53:47
difficult to hear that from people already flying because
53:49
then then after they're flying, they have this like notion in
53:52
their head of what they wish they would have done.
53:54
And then they tell that to you. And then you have the thought,
53:57
oh, I really need that before that, before they'll hire me.
54:00
So I would really recommend, Chris for your point at three
54:03
years, let's just get you in interviews and get you hired.
54:08
I. Really don't think that you need
54:09
it. I really think and, and here's
54:12
the other part. This is the other reason why I'm
54:14
helping people at 2 1/2 year mark is I've helped people who
54:17
do require like let's just say their area, their company
54:20
they're looking at does require the PHRN or EMT.
54:23
These companies love them so much after these ride alongs
54:26
that even though it says required, which your companies
54:29
don't, they hire them and then they pay for them to get it,
54:32
which is great 'cause then it never comes out of your pocket
54:35
and they pay for your time of doing it.
54:37
So let's say worst case scenario, Christopher, we get in
54:40
there and these flight companies, like actually it's
54:42
required. We need you to get the PHR in.
54:43
If they really like you, they're going to hire you and pay for
54:46
you to do it. OK, awesome.
54:50
Thank you. You're welcome.
54:51
What's your thoughts about getting started and starting the
54:54
interview? I'm, I'm definitely interested,
54:59
definitely interested in getting started.
55:02
It's definitely something that I would want to do, yeah.
55:06
I mean, you're ready. You have like so much time under
55:09
your belt and just three years of already working critical
55:11
care. You're ready.
55:12
You're ready to get hired. Cool.
55:16
All right. Do you have any other questions?
55:18
No, no, that's it. Thank you.
55:20
OK. Thanks for asking those
55:20
questions because I didn't address those.
55:24
Thanks, Christopher. Yep.
55:27
OK, anybody else want to workshop their plan or have any
55:34
questions or any other questions that I can answer for you?
55:38
OK, Michelle, I'm going to bring you on and we're going to go
55:41
past one. Feel free if you guys need to
55:43
log off, you can. Otherwise, I'm going to stay on.
55:47
I want to tell you guys about the program and I want to also
55:49
give you guys a special bonus offer for those of you guys who
55:52
are on. So if you can stay for that, I
55:54
want to workshop these people's plan as well.
55:57
OK, Michelle, I'm bringing you on.
56:09
Can you hear me, Michelle? Hi, Yes.
56:11
Vanessa, hi. Hi.
56:15
So I mean, I've said it a couple Times Now.
56:17
I've been an ER nurse for about 8 years, always had to go out
56:21
flight nursing and I get into it and then I get really
56:26
overwhelmed. So really my question is, what's
56:29
where do I start? What's my first step?
56:31
What should I be focus focusing on now?
56:34
Yeah, well, Michelle, I really want to offer you come join the
56:37
Flight Prep Academy because getting overwhelmed is what we
56:41
help you navigate the best. And it's totally normal to get
56:45
overwhelmed because you start to have doubt and you start to have
56:47
fear about the whole. And what I see, what I notice,
56:51
and my hunch is maybe for you is that you get overwhelmed because
56:54
you might actually successfully get into it, and then that
56:57
scares you, too. Absolutely, Yeah.
57:00
Yeah. And that's what I see with most
57:02
people. So what I help you do at this
57:05
point and what really I would recommend for you, Michelle, and
57:08
for Christopher, is we want to get your resume flight ready.
57:11
That way when you reach out to ask for these interviews and
57:14
express interest in them, you already have your resume ready.
57:18
So at this point, we want to do that and then really ask for
57:22
those interviews and start prepping for the interviews and
57:25
these ride alongs because what you're going to see is people at
57:28
the three-year mark or eight-year mark like you, it's
57:30
going to move pretty quickly. So that's you.
57:34
You want to do everything that's in your control, which is
57:36
prepping your resume, asking for the interviews, and then also
57:40
getting ready for the interviews.
57:41
And I hope you do that. One thing that I want to address
57:45
for people at your stage and at Christopher's is that you guys
57:49
are just thinking about getting hired.
57:51
I'm helping you really navigate also thinking about creating
57:56
success after your offer. So what I saw for a lot of
57:59
people is they got hired into flight and then they didn't know
58:03
how to create success for orientation.
58:05
And that's really what I help you do is start to think about,
58:09
hey, post offer, how do we navigate orientation?
58:14
What are some things that we can start thinking about?
58:16
How do you drink through a fire hose and learn new things?
58:20
And I really teach you and support you all of that inside
58:22
the flight prep Academy. I have about 20 flight nurses
58:25
and medics in there right now that I've helped transition
58:27
over. So you have that support in
58:28
there as well. But we're starting to talk about
58:31
that even before you get your offer.
58:34
Gotcha. Does that answer your question?
58:37
No, it absolutely does. Thank you so much.
58:39
I appreciate it. You're welcome.
58:40
And I think, Michelle, for you, it's just like the mindset
58:44
piece. How do we work through like the
58:46
fear of failure and then also the fear of.
58:48
Success, Yes. And will I be OK?
58:50
Yes. And of course, like we already
58:53
know you will because you can do hard things.
58:56
And, and the number one thing that I say for you and
58:58
Christopher at your stage is get the support.
59:00
Join a community. Maybe it's not mine, but join a
59:03
community where you're going to get support with people who are
59:05
going through it and a mentor who's going to help you walk you
59:08
through every stage because I that's what's going to create
59:10
success for however long you want to fly.
59:12
Perfect. I appreciate it, Genesis.
59:14
All right. Thanks, Michelle.
59:15
Good question. OK, Hannah, I'm going to bring
59:20
you on. Yeah.
59:33
Hey, Hannah. Hi, Janessa.
59:35
Can you hear me? Yes.
59:37
OK, perfect. What can I help you with?
59:39
So I was the one that commented earlier, I'm just under a year
59:42
as an ER nurse in Alabama and I've been the medic for a couple
59:46
years, OK, in the Army. And it's just kind of like, I
59:49
wanted to ask a couple more questions cuz it looks like at
59:52
my ER, it's basically like all the trauma nurses that are like
59:56
on these flight roles and stuff, 'cause our trauma team is like
59:59
a, something that you have to apply and get on for.
1:00:01
It's not like people are rotating through.
1:00:03
So I just wanted to see kind of like that's what it looks like,
1:00:06
at least in this state that like that's who ends up getting the
1:00:08
flight jobs is the one that have had like the trauma side of
1:00:12
things and like nurses like that, you know what I mean?
1:00:14
OK. Couple questions for you.
1:00:18
Are you a medic on the civilian side too?
1:00:20
No it technically only transfers over as an EMTB because the army
1:00:24
like once you're doing that army stuff their blanket of like
1:00:27
scope of practice is way different.
1:00:29
OK. I actually have a lot of people
1:00:31
military side who had their EMTB like did that transition to
1:00:35
nursing just like you too inside the group.
1:00:40
So unfortunately that won't count as critical experience
1:00:44
because you weren't on the civilian side of medic.
1:00:47
One thing that I want to offer you, Hannah, is we want to
1:00:51
broaden your scope of flight companies that we're looking
1:00:54
for. So that might be true for the
1:00:56
flight company at your hospital, but we want to get you dating a
1:01:00
bunch of different flight companies because not every
1:01:03
flight company that's the way to get in there is being a part of
1:01:06
a trauma team or and that's pretty common for hospital
1:01:09
based. But for private ones, which are
1:01:12
the majority of air ambulance companies in the United States,
1:01:15
we would we want to just broaden how many people that you get to
1:01:17
know and you get to meet. And then if that is the way that
1:01:22
you get in, this is the number one thing that's hard for people
1:01:26
is that they want to listen to what everybody's saying.
1:01:29
So if that's the way that of course we're going to work, your
1:01:34
hospital based company too, if you want to go with them, just
1:01:38
be willing to not listen to that part.
1:01:40
That's like you have to go through the trauma team or you
1:01:43
have to be doing trauma for a certain amount of time.
1:01:45
Be willing to keep putting yourself out there.
1:01:47
OK, awesome. Thank you so much.
1:01:49
You're welcome. Does that answer your question?
1:01:50
Yes, ma'am. OK.
1:01:52
All right. Thanks, Hannah, for asking.
1:01:56
OK. You guys had great questions.
1:01:58
I love. Oh, Vinny, I saw your hand up.
1:02:04
Did you want to workshop yours? OK.
1:02:13
I think your hand went down. OK.
1:02:14
Yes. OK, Vinny, come on on.
1:02:18
Because it might help someone else.
1:02:19
Whatever question you have, I'm going to promote you right now.
1:02:32
Hello. Hey, Vinny, how are you?
1:02:35
Hi, I'm doing great. Good.
1:02:39
You know, I'm a newly licensed nurse.
1:02:42
I will be completing one year program.
1:02:45
OK. I mean a one year in November,
1:02:49
OK. And I was, I'm very blessed to
1:02:52
have started in the ICU and the level 1 trauma.
1:02:56
And yeah, what I got from the workshop was that, you know, to
1:03:00
start working on those ride alongs and to continue to build
1:03:04
that experience. One question that I had was
1:03:07
like, what would you say is the main difference between working
1:03:11
as a flight nurse for these private companies rather than
1:03:15
like EU, the US Air Force? OK, good question.
1:03:20
I don't know. I can't speak for the military
1:03:22
side and I know that on that side as a flight nurse is
1:03:26
different than the civilian side.
1:03:30
So I can't speak for that. But on the flight nurse side of
1:03:33
civilian, you're you're going to have all different kind of,
1:03:36
we've kind of alluded to this a little bit.
1:03:38
You're gonna have all different kinds of flight companies.
1:03:40
So you'll have the hospital based ones and then you'll have
1:03:42
private air ambulance companies. So This is why you want to be
1:03:45
doing ride alongs. And I don't know if you can do
1:03:48
ride alongs on the military side or if you're in the military or
1:03:50
not, but doing these ride alongs gives you an open view of kind
1:03:54
of seeing what all the different bases and companies are like.
1:03:58
Do you currently work for the military?
1:04:00
No. OK.
1:04:01
No, I just, I we've had like flight nurses from the Air
1:04:07
Force, like come do like small workshops as well.
1:04:10
Yeah. OK.
1:04:10
So maybe, yeah, if they're doing workshops, I would just get in
1:04:13
there and ask them if they you can do a ride along on the
1:04:15
civilian side. And Hannah's answering this for
1:04:17
us too right now. You can, but it's a recruiting
1:04:19
event usually not actual patients.
1:04:21
OK, that's a good way to start. Looks like Hannah has some
1:04:24
information on that. Yeah.
1:04:26
I mean it just sounds like you know that you will be pretty
1:04:31
much enlisting yourself and serving either in like the
1:04:33
reserves or like 4 year and you know, you have to like be going
1:04:37
in and out for training and why not?
1:04:39
I mean, I can't speak for the military side, but I would get
1:04:42
information on it. But one thing that I personally
1:04:45
did look at, there was a moment where I maybe wanted to do some
1:04:49
military or international contracts as a flight nurse.
1:04:53
They do international contracts for civilians in the military
1:04:57
side of it too. So I, I didn't start to get
1:05:02
information, but I do know that I know some people who did that
1:05:05
on this. They were civilian and they did
1:05:07
military contracts. So that might be something that
1:05:09
you can kind of ask about because I don't know what the
1:05:11
requirements are on that, right. But good question, Vinny.
1:05:14
Thank you. You're welcome.
1:05:16
Did that answer all your questions?
1:05:17
Yeah, that's all. Thank you.
1:05:18
OK, you're welcome. OK guys, great questions.
1:05:23
I want to invite all of you guys that are on to now.
1:05:26
Let's take your plan that you're clear about and let's put it
1:05:29
into freaking action. This is it right here.
1:05:32
Taking massive action despite fear, despite overwhelm, all
1:05:36
these things. Now that you're clear, let's
1:05:38
help you get the clarity and support to go forward with it.
1:05:42
I want to invite all of you guys that are on right now and
1:05:44
created your plan. Join us inside the Flight Prep
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Academy. I know I've talked about it a
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little bit, but I'm going to give you a rundown of what's
1:05:49
included. Lifetime membership.
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I love this because I want to work with you whenever you start
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knowing that you want flight and I want to work with you for
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longevity of however long you want to fly.
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So if you're in nursing school, you get to be in the flight prep
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Academy for a long time. If you are at your three years
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or eight years, like Christopher and Michelle, you get to be in
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the flight prep Academy for however long that you want to
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fly. I want to support you the entire
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way. And I think it's really
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important to have a community and a mentor and a coach and
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someone to support you in flight.
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It's what I wish that I would have had in helping like have
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someone that can just push me along to get there.
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So the flight prep Academy is a lifetime membership, meaning you
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pay and you get to be in there for a lifetime.
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So inside the flight prep Academy, you're going to get the
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five step process. You're going to get how to grow
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your, your confidence and critical thinking skills.
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The flight mindset to have. We're going to really talk about
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mindset because as a coach, mindset is everything.
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You're going to get this course, which I just taught today,
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mapping out your plan to flight. You're going to get another
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course, which is how to make ride alongs, how to do ride
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alongs and make connections. You're going to get the course
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of how to get your resume flight ready.
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And then you can workshop that with me either on the call or
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one-on-one over e-mail or directly.
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That way you're going to get the course, how to prepare for your
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ride along, what to eat, what to bring, what questions to ask,
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what to expect, and then you're going to get the three-part
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course of the interview prep course.
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I think there's actually about 25 courses inside the member
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portal. These are on demand for you to
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watch. It's not like once you join, you
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got to go through all the videos.
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Now these are all on demand, so you can watch them at any time.
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That works best for you with this.
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I like the weekly coaching call support, meaning we meet every
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Tuesday at noon Pacific Standard Time to help you, support you on
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your plan, work you through the obstacles, and also talk about
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the mindset piece where you're having doubt, where you're
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having fear, where you're in overwhelm, confusion.
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We're talking about that every week on the calls.
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You do not have to come to them live.
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They're all recorded. Everybody in this group or shift
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work or two jobs or goes to school.
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So every call is recorded and then housing the member portal
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for you to go back and watch any of the replays anytime.
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You also don't have to be coached on it, just coming and
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listening to other people talk about their doubts, their fears,
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or where they are in the process.
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We do a lot of evaluation of flight interviews.
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There's, like I said, 20 flight nurses and medics in there.
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So we're talking about problems that they're facing.
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You can watch other people get coached and get a lot out of it
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for where you are currently or where you will be in the future.
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You also, this is my favorite part, you get access to a
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WhatsApp community group chat where you can tap into that 24/7
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for daily support. So say you need events, say you
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need support, say you need to figure out, hey, what is the
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best study material that I need for this test or what's the best
1:08:34
study material for Ekgs. You can tap into that group 24/7
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whenever you want for support. The community is my favorite
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part and I think I have the best community in the flight prep
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Academy for people wanting to get in a flight and who are
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currently flying. Again, you have flight nurses
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and flight medics in there too, so you can get support from
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them. And then you also will get that
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flight interview prep course that talks about critical care
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tests, panel interview preparation with questions, case
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scenario preparation with the systematic process.
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So you'll get to be able to workshop that.
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And then on the weekly calls we also talk about prepping for
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flight interviews or critical care interviews or if are
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already flying, how do we prepare you for your Simex and
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your simulation interviews and stuff like that?
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We run a lot of case scenarios. So you get all of this for $2000
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inside this lifetime membership inside the Flight Prep Academy.
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I never, never, never want the cost to be the reason why you
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can't join. So because of that, I have
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created some different payment plans.
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So I have a painful option. Some people like to do that.
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The painful option, you get one free one-on-one call for me with
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me. That's 45 minutes that you can
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use that call for anything, interview, prep, your flight,
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resume, whatever you want. You get one, one-on-one call for
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me. If you do the painful option,
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I'm going to share with you guys right now the link if you guys
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want to join. And then I'm also going to tell
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you guys a spell, a special offer for those of you guys who
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join on this call. So I have a painful option where
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you get the one free one-on-one call.
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I also have a six monthly payment plan of 350 that you can
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pay over six months. What happens is you make the
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first payment today and then the next payment won't come out for
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30 days after that. And then I have a 12 monthly
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payment plan of 176 for those of you guys who want to spread it
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out a little bit more. You get immediate access to all
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of this stuff. This isn't like you trickle
1:10:23
about getting access no matter what payment plan you choose.
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No, whatever payment plan you choose, you get immediate access
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to the community group chat, the member portal, and the weekly
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calls. You'll get that today as soon as
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you join. OK, here's the bonus offer for
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those of you guys who are on and join today.
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You are going to get a free one-on-one session with me to be
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able to use any time. Whether you want to map out your
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plan, whether you want to do critical care, whether you want
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to do flight resume or flight resume prep, whether you want to
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do flight interview prep, whatever you want to do, you can
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use that one free one on call whenever you want.
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Never expires if you join on this call right now.
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And then if you do the painful option, you're going to get 2
1:11:06
free one-on-one calls to use whenever you want for a
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lifetime. So I wanted to offer that to you
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guys that are on this call, this bonus one-on-one call, my
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one-on-one calls, Ioffer to my one-on-one clients and two
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people inside the flight Academy for $360.00.
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So you're going to get this completely free 45 minutes,
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one-on-one time with me to use whatever you want for whatever
1:11:28
subject or thing that you want coaching on or help with.
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And it will never expire to use. So I want to offer you guys take
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this plan of action, put it into action, get the support that you
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need to get out there, get the job, get hired, be with the
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community of people who are going through it.
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And I promise you guys, we will not let you fail.
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We have helped dozens of people get hired this year.
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I have helped dozens of people get hired before the three-year
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mark even this year. And that's by just following
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this simple plan. So I want to invite you guys to
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come join us. If you join on this free
1:12:04
training, any of the payment plans, you're going to get the
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bonus one-on-one call with me. You can use that whenever you
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want. I'll give you my scheduling link
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and you can schedule that out whenever you want.
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Thank you guys. I know we went a little bit
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over. I hope you guys got really clear
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about your plan and I want to invite you guys.
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Let's put your plan into action. Let's get it going.
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Let's get you hired. If you're at that 2 1/2 year
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mark, let's get you hired in the next couple months.
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I'm confident that we can do that.
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And if you're in nursing school and you're just getting started,
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when you start, you're cutting your time in half.
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I'm noticing now after running this program for four years, the
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people that join me in nursing school are getting there in half
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the amount of time. And that's because they're
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getting the support and they're staying on track and they're
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putting their plan into action. That's it for the training, you
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guys. Thank you guys for coming on.
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I am going to quit the recording and then I'm going to stay on
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for anybody who has any extra one-on-one questions for me.
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As always, if you guys DM me or e-mail me, I'm the one who
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specifically answers you back. And I hope to have you guys join
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us inside the Flight Prep Academy.
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I hope you joined on this call. You joined today.
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You're going to get that bonus offer one-on-one call.
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All right, guys, thank you. That's it, bye.
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If anything in this episode sparked your interest into
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getting into flight, come join my Flight Pet group.
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We are an entire community that meets together on a weekly basis
1:13:25
with an ongoing group chat. And if you are already flying
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and you're currently a flight nurse or flight medic, you can
1:13:30
join my all flight clinician group as well.
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You can click on the link to join in the show notes or you
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can DM me on Instagram. I hope to see all of you guys
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inside.