Latest / Chuck Douglas / William Husel case dismissed
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Greeting salutations. Welcome my friends to another edition of The
- 0:06Speaker 1: Power Our six ten WTV. And I'm Chuck Douglas.
- 0:10Speaker 2: You know who you are.
- 0:10Speaker 1: We take it from Nagge in one hour together, so
- 0:13Speaker 1: I talk early fast, and you must listen even faster.
- 0:16Speaker 1: My number eight two one nine eight eighty six a
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- 0:22Speaker 1: Wtv and AND i have a feeling you'll want to use
- 0:25Speaker 1: that tonight BECAUSE i need you, to BECAUSE i had
- 0:29Speaker 1: such an instantaneous and strong reaction to the story that
- 0:34Speaker 1: Maybe i'm on the wrong. Track you know when, Emotion
- 0:36Speaker 1: when emotion plays too much of a role in a,
- 0:39Speaker 1: decision for, ME i doubt the decision no matter what
- 0:45Speaker 1: the emotion, is whether it's happiness or anger or, WHATEVER
- 0:50Speaker 1: i second guess myself Until i've had time to just
- 0:54Speaker 1: sit and think it. Through and this is a late
- 0:56Speaker 1: breaking news, story so sitting and thinking it through BEFORE
- 1:02Speaker 1: i started this show not really an. Option BUT i
- 1:06Speaker 1: don't feel LIKE i have a choice but to talk about.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It And i'm talking about this decision from the judge
- 1:16Speaker 1: to dismiss the defamation suit of Doctor. HUSEL i don't
- 1:24Speaker 1: think this is, good this is, right this is Just
- 1:28Speaker 1: i'm this, guy a practicing physician in the state Of,
- 1:33Speaker 1: ohio licensed in the state Of, ohio practicing At Trinity
- 1:39Speaker 1: health Slash Mount, carmel was accused of, poisoning at the very, least,
- 1:47Speaker 1: killing at the very, worst some patients by overdosing them With.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Finnel and he had brought against. HIM i believe fourteen,
- 1:58Speaker 1: charges If i'm not, mistaken fourteen charges of death caused
- 2:04Speaker 1: by his inappropriate actions as a physician and overdosing these.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Patients Fourteen and it went to court and his medical
- 2:17Speaker 1: license was taken, away his job was taken, away his
- 2:20Speaker 1: reputation was. Sullied he's you, know he's scared to practice
- 2:24Speaker 1: at this. Point AND i can't say THAT i blame.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Him and after the smoke, cleared he filed a suit
- 2:36Speaker 1: Against trinity Slash Mount carmel for, defamation which, LIKELY i
- 2:42Speaker 1: believe would have resulted in a multimillion dollar payout to.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Him and let me tell you freely THAT i was
- 2:56Speaker 1: among those that, said get his butt to a courtroom
- 2:59Speaker 1: and hang him high if he's found. Guilty because the,
- 3:02Speaker 1: reports the constant, reports the hammering, reports seemed to indicate
- 3:08Speaker 1: that there was no doubt this guy was some sort
- 3:12Speaker 1: of mad scientist fitanyl. KILLER i think most of us believed.
- 3:20Speaker 1: It whether you are in the media or the professional
- 3:27Speaker 1: or a blue collar you turn on the news reports
- 3:30Speaker 1: every day and it was hard not to believe this
- 3:34Speaker 1: guy's a. Killer but our system of justice found him not.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Guilty so he files the defamation suit and it is
- 3:49Speaker 1: announced late this, afternoon before it goes to, trial before
- 3:55Speaker 1: it goes before a. Jury the, judge the singular. JUDGE
- 4:01Speaker 1: i know nothing about this. Judge the judge decides that the,
- 4:08Speaker 1: defendant Being Mount Carmel, trinity has so much evidence in their,
- 4:14Speaker 1: favor we're not even going to have a. Trial that's bs.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Man you get pulled over by the police and the judge,
- 4:28Speaker 1: goes there's so much, evidence we're not even going to
- 4:30Speaker 1: have a. Trial if you know you were not, speeding
- 4:34Speaker 1: and you want to go in there and represent yourself
- 4:37Speaker 1: for getting attorney to represent, you you want to go
- 4:39Speaker 1: into that courtroom and, fight because, remember innocent until proven
- 4:44Speaker 1: guilty is the, standard isn't, IT i, know pertaining the criminal,
- 4:50Speaker 1: court but isn't an overwhelming standard for just being An
- 4:53Speaker 1: american in our system innocent until proven. Guilty you want
- 5:01Speaker 1: your day in, Court you want to be. Heard you
- 5:05Speaker 1: want those who have brought charges and complaints against you
- 5:10Speaker 1: to have to prove, themselves prove their. Case and this
- 5:18Speaker 1: judge apparently has, Decided, nah they've got too much. Evidence
- 5:22Speaker 1: we're not even gonna bother with the. Trial i'm, SORRY
- 5:24Speaker 1: i don't think AM i off my rocker? Here AM
- 5:26Speaker 1: i just too? EMOTIONAL i because you talk about a
- 5:29Speaker 1: threat to? DEMOCRACY i think, This this is a threat to.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Democracy part of the democrat. Process democratic process is a
- 5:41Speaker 1: vote where you go before a jury of your peers
- 5:45Speaker 1: and they. Vote that is, Democracy that is true. Democracy
- 5:51Speaker 1: those twelve people each get a. Vote we continue to
- 5:57Speaker 1: refer to a representative republic as a, Democracy let's refer
- 6:00Speaker 1: or do an actual democracy as a. Democracy and if
- 6:05Speaker 1: you do not allow that democracy to, occur aren't you
- 6:12Speaker 1: a threat to? Democracy i'm not good with this at.
- 6:16Speaker 1: All And i'm not even saying the guy would have
- 6:19Speaker 1: won the. SUIT i think he would. Have my gut
- 6:21Speaker 1: tells me he would. Have but doesn't he deserve his
- 6:27Speaker 1: day in, court just LIKE i would deserve my day in,
- 6:32Speaker 1: court just like you would deserve your day in. Court
- 6:38Speaker 1: somebody can accuse you of, anything, anytime, anywhere for any
- 6:42Speaker 1: reason you anybody can be. Accused what's justice was it
- 6:47Speaker 1: that was famous for saying you can get an indictment
- 6:49Speaker 1: against a ham. Sandwich anybody can be, accused but the
- 6:59Speaker 1: accused should be able to confront their accusers and should
- 7:06Speaker 1: be able to be proven guilty in a court of
- 7:08Speaker 1: law before they suffer. Punishment this guy has suffered. Punishment
- 7:11Speaker 1: he can no longer make a living doing what he was, educated,
- 7:15Speaker 1: certified and licensed to, do and we're not even giving
- 7:23Speaker 1: him the opportunity to defend, himself to go in there
- 7:29Speaker 1: and SAY i need some kind of compensation here because
- 7:31Speaker 1: you completely ruined my. Life i'm just not good with.
- 7:37Speaker 1: IT a two one nine eight eighty six number eight
- 7:40Speaker 1: two one DOUBLE utv and or eight hundred and sixty
- 7:42Speaker 1: ten DOUBLE, Utv and you can tell me. Seriously i'll
- 7:45Speaker 1: listen to you if you Think i'm completely, wrong, because
- 7:47Speaker 1: AS i, said my reaction was instantaneous and. Emotional Because
- 7:52Speaker 1: i'm a right and, wrong black and, white no gray
- 7:55Speaker 1: area kind of, guy especially when it comes to our
- 7:58Speaker 1: system of. Justice Maybe i'm allowing emotion to interfere BECAUSE
- 8:05Speaker 1: i feel so strongly about. THAT i JUST.
- 8:10Speaker 3: I just.
- 8:11Speaker 1: DON'T i don't like the way this, looks, feel, smells,
- 8:14Speaker 1: taste or or or. SEEMS a two ONE wtv in
- 8:20Speaker 1: is my. Number let's get a few in. Here, john
- 8:22Speaker 1: you're on The Legacy Retirement group dot com phone line type, yeah.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Chuck, no you're feeling.
- 8:28Speaker 4: RIGHT i want to know how much your judge got.
- 8:31Speaker 1: PAID i don't want to make the, accusation BUT i
- 8:35Speaker 1: certainly understand the. Suspicion something does not feel right about
- 8:39Speaker 1: this at.
- 8:39Speaker 2: All i'll make the.
- 8:41Speaker 4: Accusation you. Know it's, like excuse.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Me you can't just.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Throw something out because oh, no they got too.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Much have a great. Day that's like if you're up for.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Murder oh, no don't, worry they got too.
- 8:56Speaker 5: Much you're, guilty you.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Know, hey, yeah isn't that?
- 8:59Speaker 1: Funny? John you can have video evidence of somebody walking
- 9:02Speaker 1: in a convenience store gutting down all the customers and
- 9:05Speaker 1: the person behind the, counter and they get on the
- 9:07Speaker 1: news and, go, h this is a person of. Interest
- 9:10Speaker 1: is not a person of? Interest damn, it we just
- 9:12Speaker 1: watched him kill. Everybody they're a person of. Interest but,
- 9:16Speaker 1: hey the the defense has too much evidence against you
- 9:19Speaker 1: in this. Case that's not that's. Yeah.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Absolutely what's the judge's?
- 9:25Speaker 2: Name do you have a judges, Name?
- 9:27Speaker 1: Zach do you have his name in front of? YOU
- 9:28Speaker 1: i forget It abbot Or abercrombie or something beginning with AN.
- 9:31Speaker 1: A i believe it. Was it's not a name That
- 9:35Speaker 1: i've even heard. Before do you have that at your your?
- 9:39Speaker 1: Disposal give me a, Second, Okay zach will look it
- 9:42Speaker 1: up and just keep, Listening, john he'll get it on the.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Air i'm not sure. WHO i don't recognize the. Name
- 9:46Speaker 1: it's either somebody who's relatively new to the bench or
- 9:50Speaker 1: just somebody who generally stays out of the. HIGHLIGHTS i
- 9:53Speaker 1: don't KNOW a two one nine SIX a TWO wutvn And,
- 9:56Speaker 1: steve you're on six to TEN doubleutvn.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Pleasure thank. You.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Hey i've heard so much lately about judges and how
- 10:05Speaker 4: crooked they are and. Everything it wouldn't surprise me if
- 10:08Speaker 4: he paid the judge itself to do this so it
- 10:10Speaker 4: could get, off because you, know obviously he's going to
- 10:13Speaker 4: be able to file emotion.
- 10:15Speaker 5: On, this ain't.
- 10:15Speaker 3: HE i MEAN i would think.
- 10:17Speaker 4: So you know that he didn't get a fair.
- 10:20Speaker 1: TRIAL i would hope he'd be able to appeal to
- 10:22Speaker 1: some authority to reconsider this judge's. Decision it seems like
- 10:27Speaker 1: that would be only right THAT i don't know what
- 10:29Speaker 1: the process, is and this happened so. LATE i wanted
- 10:31Speaker 1: to try to Get Brad kaffle on with me to
- 10:34Speaker 1: kind of explain what the appellate process is even when
- 10:37Speaker 1: there's no.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Trial that would.
- 10:39Speaker 4: HELP i, just you, Know i'm not really the big conspiracy.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Theory it's just these judges. ANYMORE i don't, know you,
- 10:45Speaker 3: know it's hard to say who's on what side and
- 10:48Speaker 3: what they're doing and everything. Anymore and the first THING
- 10:52Speaker 3: i thought, was you, know he can file emotion to
- 10:54Speaker 3: get out of, that, then you know WHAT i? Mean
- 10:56Speaker 3: AND i, SAID i wonder if he's been paid, off
- 10:58Speaker 3: the judge's been paid, off so.
- 10:59Speaker 4: He can you, KNOW i don't. KNOW i know that's
- 11:02Speaker 4: far fetched in a, way BUT i just LIKE i,
- 11:04Speaker 4: say these judges these, days, man they're coming up with some.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Stuff it's just.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Crazy, WELL i mean stories around the. Country we got
- 11:11Speaker 1: judges hiding illegal immigrants and helping them avoid arrest and.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Attendent it used to you know that prominent position used
- 11:19Speaker 1: to come with a prominent call to the person in
- 11:22Speaker 1: that position to be something more than the average guy
- 11:26Speaker 1: on the. Street but that doesn't seem to be the
- 11:28Speaker 1: case always, anymore, Right and you, know and would you.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Want that perception out there in the public. Too, no
- 11:35Speaker 4: we're not getting you, know they're not being, honest and
- 11:39Speaker 4: they're not being you, know constitutional and. STUFF i, mean
- 11:42Speaker 4: it's just like they don't even care.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Anymore i'm with.
- 11:45Speaker 1: You i'm with, You. STEVE i appreciate the, call but
- 11:48Speaker 1: he thanks very. Much it's and AS i, Said i'm
- 11:51Speaker 1: not going to make the, accusation BUT i, UNDERSTAND i
- 11:54Speaker 1: understand the. Suspicion did you get his names?
- 11:56Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, chuck his name as a, Judge stephen.
- 11:59Speaker 1: McIntosh do we know anything about judge? McIntosh i have no.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Idea, OKAY i don't, know BUT i can luck more stuff.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Up i'm. Sure i'm sure that will be part of
- 12:06Speaker 1: future discussions BECAUSE i don't think this one's going away anytime.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Soon night. Six let's get you in w on Six
- 12:12Speaker 1: En DOBLE.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Etvn, Hey, CHUCK i agree with you so much on.
- 12:17Speaker 5: This for the judge dismissing, this and.
- 12:21Speaker 2: And but the case has got so many different layers to.
- 12:25Speaker 1: It.
- 12:25Speaker 5: Now i'm with.
- 12:26Speaker 2: You WHEN i first heard about Doctor hustle and WHAT
- 12:30Speaker 2: i was, Like, wow that seems.
- 12:33Speaker 5: Weird but they.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Don't you, know the newspaper only prints that they want to.
- 12:36Speaker 5: Print BUT i know there and this goes back to
- 12:40Speaker 5: the healthcare system and.
- 12:41Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i. Know i've had some family members that were
- 12:47Speaker 2: in the hospital they weren't going to. Recover AND i
- 12:51Speaker 2: even know some nurses that, say, hey when the most
- 12:55Speaker 2: important family member comes around and, says, hey we're just
- 12:59Speaker 2: gonna make.
- 12:59Speaker 5: Them comfortable and we're just gonna let him go like.
- 13:03Speaker 5: That this goes way deeper than just this judge dismissing this.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Case i'm, real real adamant about. This i've been following
- 13:16Speaker 2: this case.
- 13:17Speaker 5: For a few years, now and it reminds me of.
- 13:23Speaker 2: So many. Things i'm not going to go into.
- 13:24Speaker 5: Them, personally But i'm, like, man this doctor was a caring.
- 13:29Speaker 5: Doctor he's trying to do his.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Job somebody in the family came up to him and, said,
- 13:35Speaker 2: hey can you help my dying relatives just go in?
- 13:40Speaker 2: Peace and.
- 13:43Speaker 4: And you, know and then we get.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Into the euthanasia type, thing and it's.
- 13:47Speaker 5: This the REASON i believe this judge dismissed.
- 13:53Speaker 2: This case is because his pockets are in so MANY
- 13:58Speaker 2: i don't, Know, JACK i really don't. Know but many
- 14:03Speaker 2: hospitals don't talk about, it but they do that they
- 14:08Speaker 2: have a system in place that allows them to be
- 14:14Speaker 2: able to do, that and it's not talked. About this
- 14:18Speaker 2: doctor was a good. DOCTOR i believe in my heart
- 14:24Speaker 2: he got railroaded and he should be able to come
- 14:29Speaker 2: up and, say hey, MAN i got more to say about.
- 14:31Speaker 2: This you ruined my.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Career that's WHERE i am. Too you took a part
- 14:40Speaker 1: everything THAT i had built, up AND i should be
- 14:41Speaker 1: able to stand in court and come back with WHAT
- 14:44Speaker 1: i have