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Hey, how are you, Daryl? Welcome, everybody.
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Today is Monday, September 14th, Dear of our Lord, 2026.
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I'm back. I'm back.
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Yeah, man, I, Daryl. I got home at 5:30 this morning.
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Well, what? What?
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What were you sharing on screen? I didn't see that.
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Honored Veteran. Honored veteran Oh, I didn't I
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didn't grab my my medal. I I could run out to the truck
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and get it and my my certificate that we were did you do you get
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to? Bring a dog?
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Did you bring a dog home too? No, I mean, the dog's here.
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Zsa Zsa stayed with Carrie and then Cody came back home from
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his trip. So Zsa Zsa stayed here.
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She didn't go on the trip with me.
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I probably should have taken her though, but but brought home the
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the last place certificate. Somebody's got to be last place.
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It's OK, we placed, you placed. You know, I, I, I went cold on
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the track. Everybody else had already raced
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all morning long. They know their vehicles.
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I had never driven on the track before.
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And that was, you know, it's been a year since I drove the
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Rally for Vets Miata. So for those of you who don't
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know where I was this past week and I, I had driven across
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country, even was at the club. No, I was at the racetrack
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Saturday and then drove back 1300 miles.
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So you know my, I don't know if you can hear my throat.
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I feel like I'm still straining my voice a bit because I talked
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so much. I had so much fun Saturday
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interviewing people and I, I, oh, we lost your video.
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I did do a good deed yesterday. I had to roll my window down.
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So for those of you don't know, I took my RV across country and
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of course was driving it back. But you always, you know, you
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learn how to look out for a fellow RV years.
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There was a gentleman and his wife driving a truck with a
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fifth wheel pulling behind them next to while I was behind them
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and saw some smoking coming out of the wheels so knew that was
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not a good sign. I played the catch up game and
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you know, roll, hey, roll the window down.
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And then I had to scream it out because I knew that my voice
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was, you know, was pretty sketchy.
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And that probably is what blew the rest of the voice that I had
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trying to tell him that, hey, his tires were smoking or his
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wheels were smoking. So my throat is still recovering
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from Saturday. So and we we don't have your.
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Video Well, you know, this is probably give me more of a this.
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I can see you fine. We cannot see you.
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I'm just letting. You fine.
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OK, I'm just letting you know we can't see you, so I'm.
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Driving from Fort Worth. OK, no worries.
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So we can talk through this. Yeah, OK.
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Yeah, we will. You said you're driving through
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Fort Worth. Well, be careful driving.
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I know we didn't have our show. You had an appointment.
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Yeah, she they call. I got in earlier than November.
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Oh, good for your wife, yeah, or you?
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No for me. OK, yeah, well, we'll say
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prayers that everything. Is fine just so you know Oh yeah
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yeah yeah just so you know and. And we'll pray, but she's a
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she's not. So we're just, you know, she's
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she's just, you know, meander about the house.
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And, you know, like I told you, she doesn't know who anybody
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else is. She knows who I am.
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Right. And that's.
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That's tough. I'm sorry, Darryl.
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That's. It is a cruel, insidious
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disease. Right, well, since you're
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driving, if you want, I'll go ahead.
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And right, since you're driving, I'll go ahead and launch us into
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prayer, OK? Dear Heavenly Father, thank you
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for joining us together today. Wherever we are and wherever,
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whatever we're doing, Darrell's driving.
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Please keep him safe and on his appointed mission today.
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Dear Heavenly Father, please take care of those of us and our
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lives and our families and extended families that you keep
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our health and well-being and focus and find some find healing
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and relief and and your mercy to get through.
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You know, these trials and journeys and challenges that we
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as the caregivers, I have peace in getting through the through
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these trials. Family Father, thank you for all
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the many gifts and glories that you give to us each and every
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day. The blessings that you sent to
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our way, the people we get to meet and the journey you have us
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on. That we are ever and always
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growing your Kingdom, your people, garden and be, and that
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we are your everlasting servants.
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Just being, being the servants that we are supposed to be for
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you and your mission. In your name we pray, Lord.
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Amen. Amen, father and Son.
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Of Holy Spirit, Amen. You know, the hard part when I'm
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praying, Darrell, is that I have like 15 things coming in my head
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to say at the same time. And.
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So much to pray for. So much to pray for.
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I mean, because then I'm also thinking, OK, what about the
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president and all of our community leaders and everything
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else? Everybody, you know, maybe I'll
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put all this stuff at the end. So much to pray for these days.
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I know there are a lot of people going through stuff.
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So I want to talk just a minute about the, you know, my
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experience on my trip this past week because it was challenging
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in many ways, but I think it's also pretty much a parallel with
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a lot of this stuff that we've seen in Genesis.
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Are you OK with that? Yes, I'm.
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Fine with it. OK, so you know, part of my
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whole there, there we got video again, part of my, you know, RV
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project and the concerns I had were with the roof and rain and
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and I kept thinking, man, this is what Noah, no, you imagine
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what Noah was going through on the ark and and patching holes
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here. Oh, we got a patch a hole here.
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We got a patch hole there and you and you know, how do you,
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how do you patch the holes so that, you know, you, you don't
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get, you don't get the rain coming through and and exploding
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the ark. You know, the RV was like that,
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right? I had to get up on the roof of
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the RVA couple. Well, like I ended up getting up
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there three times. I think the last time held
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pretty well. But you know, when you get those
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leaks like that, you're putting a lot of faith in some.
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There, I had to mute your mic, Darryl, 'cause there was some
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kind of sound coming through. So anyway, yeah, you may have to
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cycle off and come back on again.
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Let's see, it's really loud. No, there's a there's a really
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loud voice. What?
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There's a loud voice. So anyways, getting back to my
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RV and Noah Ark comparison, you know, so it was it was raining
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and the patches that I had made on the RV were not holding.
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I saw them not hold as soon as I well, later on when I was on the
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highway when I first left, I I saw I saw the plastic flip up.
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It didn't hold up there on the roof and I had had it taped down
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and everything, but it was right there on the leading edge.
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So I had this, you know, you can't help but get this vision
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of what Noah must have gone through on the ark because you
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can't, you don't necessarily know, you can't test, you can't
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test the integrity of what the ark would have gone through, you
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know, until it actually started raining.
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So whatever thatch and you know, sealant that they had, they
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would have had to have buckets and buckets of that ready to
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hurry up and patch in there and to hold to hold it and not let
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the water come through when it when the when the rain started
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coming and raising the ark up. That would have been very, very
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interesting to deal with because otherwise your only resources
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were what was on the ark with you.
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You wouldn't have had any worldly access to any kind of
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any kind of extra repair goods. I'm talking about Noah and the
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ark. When the Ark was getting
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elevated in the water, all of all of the resources that they
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could have had available were no longer available, Darryl,
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because of the rising waters. So there I was, you know, on my
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road trip with the RV and the, and the roof getting the rain
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leaking through the roof and oh, then it was through the window
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and I've got a little teeny tiny leak over in the bathroom area
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from the roof. So that one won't be so hard to
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fix. I didn't really worry about it.
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It was just a little baby drip, but those other ones,
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fortunately, I had come prepared with the role of the seam tape
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and to try and that was what end up being my saving grace was
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being able to just use the seam tape to seal it up on the third
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try. But you know, Darryl, Can you
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imagine this is, you know, talking about Noah and and
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everything that you had. You think that you what it could
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have should have had available is no longer available to you.
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And I think for a lot of our brothers and sisters who have
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served in the military and you go on deployments, what you have
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right there is what you have right there.
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You are having to learn how to MacGyver, whatever.
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We learn how to be so resourceful on on things, but
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then there's that impact of us that we also have to remember
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that the very same types of mental thinking that we go
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through to solve problems with, you know, with material things,
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we need to apply those same concepts on the mental and
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emotional and spiritual side as well.
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It's just taking on a different nuance.
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Does that make sense, Darrell? It does, it does.
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And, and so I told you that I'm really, you know, on, on the,
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the front side, the middle and the backside of my profession of
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counseling and mental health is really just trying to make sure
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that I'm certainly established enough, not more than enough,
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but enough. Because only psychiatrist,
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psychologist, neurologist, LPCS who really delve into that, who
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can bill for that specifically. But for me, all aspects of
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counseling, rehabilitation, psychiatric rehabilitation,
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mental health, peer support, all those areas, they all intersect
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where you can really provide the best, you know, care for people.
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You don't have to have, you know, instrumentations and, you
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know, diagnostics and all these other types of things.
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You know, it's just when you're dealing with the human heart and
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the person's willing, ready and able to discuss what's going on
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with them, you're onto something.
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And I don't believe Noah and his family, Abraham and his family,
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Isaac and his family, Jacob and his family, Joseph, too many
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measures of life had that opportunity to do so.
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Right, they, they would have looked and to see what resources
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are available and, and I think over time, many of them time and
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time again, the ones who walked with God realized that the ones
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who were the most successful were the ones who walked with
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God. You know there was no time for
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competition and who we are and what's what is this and who are
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they. You know those are re
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establishment with Noah and his family of the earth.
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Well, I know you and I had wanted to.
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We discussed, you know, there's still plenty to discuss about
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Genesis and you know, it's. Probably something that'd be our
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Yeah, that'd be our Bible getting through the Bible in the
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year, right? Yeah, right.
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I mean, man, it took us, it took us a year to get through
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Genesis. And and hey, but you know, so
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this is for those of you don't know, last our last episode that
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we aired because we didn't have a show last Monday.
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I was on the road. And no, we did have a yeah, we
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didn't have a show, right? We didn't have a show.
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You were, you were out of pocket.
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I was out of pocket. So we didn't have the show on
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Labor Day. Yeah, because I had the show
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from my truck. I had my From Pain to Purpose
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show for my truck on Saturday. But you know, we've had several
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discussions about what we're, you know, things that we know
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that we still wanted to talk about Genesis.
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So technically we're in season 2 of our, of our show note now,
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right? So welcome to season 2, folks.
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Season 2 of the revivals is here.
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Yay. I'm so excited about.
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And just so you know, after this show is over, I'm actually doing
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a talk on being a revivalist and that is how they're available
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for folks to join on. So it'll be a good, I've already
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got a good draft of what my talk is going to be about being a
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revivalist. And that's what we are.
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But I think that there were still several key topics that
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you and I wanted to discuss. Some of it is it's a parallel
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news, recent news story in the veteran community, veteran slash
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military community compared to what we've also been seeing
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within some of the stories within Genesis.
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Which, which one do you feel like tackling first?
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Daryl, I'm. Listen, I'm in agreement with
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with any of them. So you just go ahead and just,
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OK, flip the evil coin. Flip the evil coin and let's go.
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All right, so the first one I know we we were talking about
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was and I don't have have it opened the my Bible.
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This was the story where the the gentlemen were coming into town
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and was it Isaac? And he was like no, y'all need
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to hurt, y'all need to hide because they want to come and
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rape you. Remember that.
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Oh, when it's almost like Judges 19.
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Go ahead. No, this is this.
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Was in Genesis this. No, no, no, I said.
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It's almost like you'll see it again in Judges 19.
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Go ahead. So, you know, it was the whole,
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the whole topic about and this is getting back to the aights.
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And then they they wanted to rape the men they were not
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interested in. It was.
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His daughters, because he had a couple of, you know, had a
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couple of virgin daughters. They were these guys were
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interested in raping, raping these men.
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The angels. The angels, yes, I was trying to
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remember who was it that is it I the.
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The the, the the innkeeper, if you will, was saying, take my
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daughters. Right.
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Actually, it was a lot since take.
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Not, not, not, not a lot. It was the innkeepers to take my
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daughters and they're like, no, no, we let us know them.
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Yeah, I was trying to. I'm trying to see Lot.
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Yeah, Lot and his daughters. And his daughters, right?
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Right, but it and it was A and they were trying to so I've got
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it open here it's. OK.
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And this was over in Sodom and Gomorrah and they.
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And this is this is after, this is after which the the lot's
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wife had been transformed to a pillow.
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Correct, correct. And but this was anyways he said
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yeah, hurry up, go ahead and get in here, flee through your
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lives. Don't look back.
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Don't stop. And anyways, flee to the mounds,
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you be swept away. And am I right?
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Oh, that's the power. That's the salt part.
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But there was. Where did it go?
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Keep going, you don't run into it.
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But these were temptations. They I'm I'm trying to read some
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of my notes in here and tricks. And anyways, they, he told them
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to told these two angels, hurry up and hide in here because the
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town people want to rape you. I, I say I this is important
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because I don't know why I've got to have a phone call trying
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to come through that. There's still this culture that
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it's OK to rape and. Even today.
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Even today and the whole sex trafficking thing and you know,
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the recent this goes back to why, why I really wanted to have
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the conversation. The recent court decision that a
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woman being raped, it was part of her.
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It was part of the work culture that she needed to be expected
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to be raped because then it would qualify it as workers
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compensation injury, more or less.
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And, and, and, and there's not the I guess in some ways the
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intent of it from a public administration standpoint is to
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provide her or a victim because it happens to men too who get
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raped. We know this in the happens in
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the military that there is compensation for them as a
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result of this, these egregious acts, but they're I think the
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difficulty in the ruling. Their long range.
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Their long range ramifications. Evil because.
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Correct, you know. Even even though there's
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compensation for the rest of this person's life, there's a
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scarlet letter. They've been scarred.
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Somebody took something. Sure, sure.
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But where is the criminalization of the perpetrator and their
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deed? If you're low level.
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If you're low level, that's what happens.
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At the higher level, is more difficult to approach into.
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Because they they get the letter of reprimand, they get a general
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opera general go mar is what we called it is as a Jag general
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officer membrandum of reprimand. They they get a slap on their on
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the hand and and the victim gets moved, not the perpetrator
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getting moved. The victim's.
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Always, you know, the victim's always the one who gets, you
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know, shuttled around and and nothing happens to the actual
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perpetrator, but. The Victimology The victimology
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follows the victim. Correct.
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But but there wasn't the accountability being held for
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the perpetrator. And I think for you and I, that
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gets back to the conversation we had earlier in the summer with
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what was happening with the Southern Baptist Convention.
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It is you're, you're making this whole victimization that well,
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we just have to change the rules because we're not going to hold
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ourselves accountable for any of our actions.
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That's I think that's, you know, you and I were talking the other
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day about Cain and Abel and, and how about Joseph's brothers, all
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the Ites. There wasn't any accountability
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for these people. They still got away with a lot
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of things and. And because those people were
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bad actors, it is spilled over and generationally culturally to
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what we see today. Which gets back to the whole
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moral injury and where's the recovery and healing coming
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from. That's that is why we have the
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Revivalist Radio show to discuss some of these very fundamental
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moral questions that a lot of you know, Daryl, when I talk to
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people about what the show is about, I said, listen, it's
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pretty simple. We're a veteran ministry geared
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towards DSM 5 covering the moral injury healing to recovery side.
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Because if you look at it from a very clinical aspect without
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God, then folks are missing the whole point about the moral
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injury healing and recovery. They stay stuck on moral injury.
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They don't focus on the healing and recovery and put God as the
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true north of our moral compass. And and it's and it's that very
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critical part of it. And that's why I think people
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like Noah and and Israel and Joseph, you know why these
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people were Abraham were so successful.
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Yes, they had their faults, but they also understood where the
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healing and recovery came from. And that was as long as I've got
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God as my absolute true North, then I'm not going to go wrong.
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Yes, yes. And that's the long version of
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this field. Right.
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No, no, Eva, tell our global audience why you say True North.
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The true north, I mean, you know, there's magnetic north,
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but if you're not using God as your true north, like to really
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zero in on God as your true north, then you're going to get,
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you're going to get lost on the wrong path.
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And what do I mean by that? So, you know, in, in my
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experience in hiking and I'm going to use the commuter to
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Santiago, for instance, could be, it could be the Appalachian
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Trail because I've been on both. You know, on the Appalachian
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Trail, it's the white blazes, but you may be out there on the
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trail and you see blue blazes. You might see some red blazes.
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Red blazes are no go zones. Blue blazes are put out there by
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like USDA because you know, there's some other, there's some
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other paths out there. But you're out there on the, on
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the Camino Santiago and you're following the Camino, which is
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the shell icon. You, you may be on a path that
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is actually 10 feet away from the wider Rd. that you see cars
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on. And it's going to look very
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tempting to go over and walk on that road versus the the rocky
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path that you're on. But there.
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But there is a side benefit to walking on this rocky path
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because one believe it or not, the rocky path massages your
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feet. Now I know that may sound kind
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of weird because you think, well, I went the smooth path
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over there. Well, don't forget you can also
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get hit by a car over on that big path too.
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But the rocky path can massage your feet.
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But it is going to take you on a journey that does a lot of sole
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repair in and of itself because it's not easy.
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It has a specific path. These are paths that have been
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walked for centuries upon centuries.
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Because all roads lead to Santiago.
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If you know anything about the commuter of Santiago and all the
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Santiago paths out there, all roads lead to Santiago.
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You know, that's what is it. The Knights Templar, even, you
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know, the Knights, you had lots of priests.
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They right, all of these paths, you know that they all hiked
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into the cathedral in Santiago and, and, and that was, it was
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like in some ways an act of penance.
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And that's important because if you are paying that penance to
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get to the end, then you are paying for that journey to get
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there. And you're not taking it as the
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easy path over there that paved Rd. that is so easy that
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everybody else wants to go on. But God's got you on this
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specific path over here. And he wants us to make sure
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that we pay that penance to be able to get to heaven.
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Does that does that make sense, Sarah?
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What's? Remarkable of what?
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You're saying like every particularly the pentance and
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the path and such, there's history behind all of that.
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And and you know, this is not our particular show to delve
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into it, but we can do sound bites.
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We can do bits and pieces and chunks that people can recognize
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that these people did fight gloriously, valiantly.
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They sweat died paid the price for us today.
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It doesn't matter what your religious denomination is is
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that bloodshed occurred. You know the scriptures teach us
32:25
that there will be violence in the Kingdom.
32:29
So here we are. But it is educate people
32:37
scripturally, historically, personally, but to continue to
32:42
model God for who not only we know who he is, but who He says
32:46
He is. Right.
32:49
Well, so part of the talk that I'm doing today, I'm I'm doing
32:54
it on Revelations 21 seven He that overcometh shall inherit
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all things and I will be his God and he shall be my son.
33:06
That's that's the. He said the same.
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He said the same thing to about Solomon.
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He would take care of Solomon because Solomon was a young man,
33:18
didn't know what to do and so he did that.
33:22
So he would do the same. He would do the same thing for
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us because he does the same thing for us.
33:29
I am 62 and my testament is is that I have fallen, I have
33:34
failed, I've been broken, I've been repaired, I've been
33:38
restored, I've scratched the knee, I've stubbed the toe, and
33:42
none the less, the Lord our God was still there because I am
33:45
still his son. You were still his daughter,
33:48
we're still his children. And when people lose sight of
33:51
that, that's when all the trouble and the difficulty comes
33:54
because people don't pray. Prayer changes things.
34:00
It is our 911211411 connect to the Lord our God.
34:07
And if people don't believe it, just look around you.
34:12
A person's life can change instantly when they believe that
34:16
their prayers will be answered. You know what?
34:19
We don't have to ask for the same thing over and over.
34:22
Look at the patriarchs and the prophets.
34:25
They didn't pray for the same thing.
34:26
They prayed once. And whatever the outcome was,
34:29
was what the outcome was. And I believe we live in a time
34:34
right now where prayer is greatly desired and you don't
34:40
have to pray down heaven. Let your request be made known,
34:45
says the Sacred Scriptures, and God will answer them.
34:51
So true, so true. These women and men, these women
34:55
and men who've endured and still are enduring moral injury and
34:59
are carrying the weight of that, God bless them.
35:04
You know, I'm, I'm one myself, right?
35:06
Some, some things happen in your childhood and you're carrying
35:09
weight and such and you're acting out and you know, all you
35:12
know is your anger, your frustration, the inability for
35:16
people to believe you and so on and so forth.
35:19
But when you get listen, I'm telling you, you guys may look,
35:23
look strangely upon me when I say this.
35:25
I went and found my bullets. Look at me very closely.
35:30
I went and found them. I didn't, you know, I didn't let
35:33
them get any more bigger than they were.
35:35
And you know, any more experienced fighting or you
35:38
know, I wouldn't took care of those things now.
35:40
I was younger, I was unlearned, but my physical, my physical and
35:46
emotional and mental capabilities, they all came out
35:49
at one time because I wasn't that young child anymore.
35:54
I was a man. And so now I, you know, I even
35:58
had to go into prayer and repentance because I wasn't
36:00
supposed to do any of those things, but somebody harmed me.
36:05
They tried to take something from me.
36:07
They tried to walk around saying they did something to me and it
36:10
was getting back to me and I wasn't having it.
36:13
Now, God doesn't work like that. God says vengeance is his.
36:19
He's the one who forgives and forgets.
36:21
That's what the human psyche and the human emotion does not do.
36:26
The human emotion says I did and I'll do it again.
36:29
Or, you know, if something happens to my children, I'll do,
36:32
I'll do 50 years for them. That may be the truth, but you
36:35
don't have to because that's God's.
36:37
That's God's deal, right? What point of my profession?
36:40
That that was between them and God.
36:42
That was between them and God. He.
36:44
He is. He is the end all.
36:48
It is not us it it, it's not a lot to be the decider, right?
36:54
It's right, it's right. It's a lot of people you and I
36:56
know through the historical timeline who have served time or
37:01
doing time. They didn't have to do time.
37:03
They took matters into their own hand.
37:07
That's a guy job now. Well, what is it he that has the
37:11
It's about casting stones, you know.
37:15
Yep, right, right. He, he or she who was never seen
37:19
and let the cast for who was without.
37:21
Right, right. Cast the first stone.
37:23
And and nobody and and then that, and in that particular
37:27
story, nobody could cast stones at that woman.
37:31
They knew they all had sins. Wait, wait.
37:35
Evil. Really quickly, everybody.
37:38
They caught the woman in the very act.
37:41
But my question is always been what were they doing there?
37:45
Right, right. If they caught, she wasn't in
37:50
the very act all by her very lonesome there.
37:56
There was everybody else that was there too.
37:58
That, that that's the question that goes back to the example
38:02
that I was talking about. Yes, that that that they were.
38:06
It was all about making sure that they chastised the woman,
38:10
but the men were not going to be held accountable.
38:13
Nope. Nope.
38:15
But that but that ruling. But that's what the ruling was
38:18
saying too, because this was about their behavior.
38:24
You know, I hope that the direction that things are
38:27
headed, that this is about getting command and discipline
38:31
back under control because I think it has seriously slacked
38:35
with the last couple of, you know, generations of veteran or
38:40
military. I mean, I think our generation
38:44
from the veterans is different than what is happening now,
38:50
'cause I I've seen some of the people that we know who are
38:54
like, OK, you guys who are serving the military whining
38:58
about deployments and, you know, your spouses whining about,
39:03
well, he's gone or she's gone. And when, when, when, what did
39:07
you sign up for the military for?
39:08
Come on folks. It, it, it even to, you know, to
39:12
your point, it's a difficult transition being young and
39:17
married and a family and you know, you're on deployment and
39:20
you're gone. I, you know, I've been through
39:21
it. So have you and so
39:23
understanding, but you, this is what you don't understand.
39:27
You have somebody who probably doesn't care about their wife or
39:30
husband the way that you care about your family, who will tell
39:33
you, particularly from a Navy standpoint, where your wife
39:36
didn't or your kids didn't come in your sea bag.
39:39
Man who? Who says that?
39:41
Somebody. Yeah.
39:42
Well, what we said, what we would have said in the Army was,
39:46
well, if the Army wanted you to have a family, they would have
39:49
issued you one. You're right.
39:51
Now who says that? You know.
39:56
It's number of years and they they did they're disenfranchised
40:00
or disenchanted or disconnected from their families.
40:03
And so they feel as though, well, I can say this right?
40:06
Well, just you don't say that somebody's.
40:07
No, but they all 18. 20 years of age, yes.
40:11
They all those are consequences of choices though, right?
40:16
Because what probably happened, they probably had sex and and
40:23
there was probably some demands while I'm pregnant.
40:25
So now we're going to get married and you need to cover.
40:29
I need to have insurance to cover this baby and you're going
40:31
to pay for this baby. Shotgun wedding indeed.
40:36
There are consequences to your actions, to your.
40:40
Choices even even even girl I got some Navy stories.
40:45
I mean, that's what happened. Think about it.
40:47
That's what happened with Joseph and his concubines.
40:51
He, you know, you and I have talked several times.
40:54
He only really loved Rachel, but he had some, He had some.
41:00
You know, there were some consequences of having all these
41:02
concubines, you know, started with Leah, but you know, had
41:09
all. These women wanted was.
41:11
All these women wanted were babies.
41:13
Right, right. That was their value then, and
41:18
in many cultures that's still their only value too.
41:24
Think about it. Because because they are seen as
41:28
property, they are only just birth bearers.
41:33
That's it. Rachel was the wife, correct?
41:41
So for them, every time they had a baby, right, they were better
41:46
than Rachel. Well, Rachel was the wife.
41:49
It was a currency. Having a child was a form of
41:53
currency. Come on.
41:56
Yes. See, man, this is, This is why
41:58
we have a wonderful program, because we get down to, we get
42:01
in the weeds. But but in but the in some ways,
42:05
Daryl, our culture still says that I remember as a young woman
42:10
that I thought that my value I I had a doctor one time tell me
42:15
that I would love if I ever had to.
42:19
Oh, I don't know what happened to your audio with that again.
42:26
Can you recycle off on Sorry folks, He's he's still driving.
42:37
It was good there for a minute and then.
42:46
Yeah, we're hearing all the road noise and touching their audio,
42:49
you know, horrible. If you can hear me Darryl, you
43:04
can cycle off on just get the the green fresh.
43:11
Got your connection. It was trying to help unmute
43:43
you. I muted you and then OK, yeah,
43:46
it's still pretty bad. If you can hit the refresh on
43:51
your stream, that would probably help it
44:06
anyways so that that was. What was the other one?
44:17
There was another newsy topic that I wanted to talk about too.
45:06
Trying to find the other this second topic I wanted to talk.
45:33
Oh, this was the other one was the whole plant inclination.
45:42
Oh, we lost him. Well, so we'll we'll get him
45:46
back. So part of the other thing goes
45:50
back to topic that Darryl and I discussed a couple of weeks ago
45:58
when he was here at my home studio here.
46:02
And that was moral disagreement because apparently we have a
46:06
moral disagreement or there is a moral disagreement about the
46:14
Clancy debate. That's what I'm calling it.
46:17
You know, the court case with, with Clancy and whether it was
46:25
OK or not for her to murder her own children and then blame it
46:34
all on having mental issues. A and or, you know, medication
46:45
issues is what I'm describing it as because she had so many
46:49
doctors. I think he's getting back on.
46:55
Hey Daryl. So I I found the other topic
46:58
that I wanted to talk about and that was the Clancy debate, the
47:03
court case and the moral the court case for the woman that
47:08
killed her kids. And it ended up.
47:11
I thought you saying something else.
47:14
Oh, I don't know, the Clancy, the Clancy court case that ended
47:18
up in a mistrial. And we have the one guy who held
47:23
out and didn't go along to get along, but this ends up being a
47:29
moral disagreement that he had with what everybody else was
47:34
saying, which was, well, she had a mental issue.
47:41
And she what I'm going to call is she was over medicated.
47:48
Probably not necessarily that she didn't need some medication,
47:52
but it's it sounded like what I was hearing that she was over
47:57
medicated, you know, not she was on like the worst roller coaster
48:04
you could ever think of. Flip flop up the side down
48:09
inside out and and she didn't know she didn't have a true
48:15
noise if we say that again. I said it, look at people are
48:25
looking for somebody to blame here.
48:27
Sure. I mean, my, my belief is
48:29
ultimately, even if she's acquitted, she's not going home
48:34
to home. She knows she's probably going
48:37
to have mentals, emotional psychiatric care for the
48:40
remainder of her life. She's a quadriplegic, or at
48:43
least I think it's he's a paraplegic.
48:45
Quadriplegic because she threw herself out of a window.
48:49
Somebody's going to somebody's howling for her head because of
48:52
those babies. Yeah, I, I think the biggest
48:58
moral disagreement is not about her life so much as how how the
49:07
fact that she killed three children is being celebrated and
49:14
what it appears to be in, in from what I've been able to see,
49:20
there are a lot of a lot of people who are claiming victory
49:23
that she killed her kids and that was part of the postpartum
49:31
termination of life. And I'm, I have a hard time even
49:37
saying that act. You know, I want to say
49:39
accurately, but you know, there are people who believe in
49:43
postpartum. What is the pregnancy
49:49
termination? Well, I mean, it's not a
49:50
pregnancy anymore. If it's postpartum, the child is
49:54
born. They are human beings and and
49:59
people are celebrating that she killed her kids.
50:02
I mean, that's just sick. It's just sick.
50:10
I feel like we are back in Sodom and Gomorrah.
50:13
If that's what they were doing, then we have not improved our
50:19
culture and we're doing the exact same things again.
50:26
Yeah, I mean, there are different snippets globally of
50:33
of biblical history coming to light again.
50:37
So Ecclesiastes 19, there's not a thing new under the sun.
50:42
And we only thing that has changed is date, the time and
50:45
it's people. But we are those same people.
50:48
We us, them. We we're the same people, just
50:52
dressed up differently. Well, I mean, yeah, OK, we have,
50:56
we have computers instead of whatever they had, you know,
51:00
whatever they were using then. What, what?
51:02
What? Pigeons.
51:04
Pigeon. Pigeons.
51:05
Raisins. Yeah, pigeons.
51:07
And raisins, right So. The the you know, messengers,
51:11
you know messengers on donkeys, right?
51:14
I, I mean, OK, so the, the method of the message being sent
51:20
has changed, but the message content is, is still, that's
51:30
exactly the people, the, the people behind the messages are
51:40
still thinking the same stuff. I don't know.
51:43
I mean, I think that's big on the moral, this grieving side of
51:50
things and that we speak with people and, and I think that
51:59
that that we lost him again, that there's a divide there,
52:05
right? We are the, the divide of moral
52:08
agreement is when we're all together, but it but it is
52:13
dividing and it's getting wider and wider and wider.
52:18
And that's the frustration. But how do we get people to
52:23
navigate back towards moral agreement of having morality in
52:29
the 1st place? If you're only having a law to
52:34
establish the behavior that people are supposed to follow
52:40
minus God, minus anything about not sinning, then what are
52:49
people to follow? That's the whole point about
52:53
having God as your true north, because then you have a moral
52:56
compass that that is helping your behavior have the true
53:02
north of how we are supposed to be.
53:07
Does that make sense? I mean, I think it's the really,
53:10
and that is the biggest part about being a revivalist is
53:16
finding true north once again, because it's not about who you
53:24
were. It's about who do you belong to
53:27
right now, Right now, who do you answer to?
53:32
If God is your true north, then you know who you answer to.
53:36
But if God's not part of your moral compass, then what is?
53:43
What is you have to, That's it. That is a internal spiritual
53:51
connection that you have to reconcile on where your behavior
53:58
has been and the things that you've had to answer for or you
54:02
will have to answer for when we meet our Maker.
54:06
And if you haven't figured that out, then that's going to be the
54:09
hardest part for you to reconcile.
54:13
You got to find you've got to find your true north, whatever
54:18
that true north is. We're trying to help you find
54:21
God as your true north on your moral compass.
54:27
And Darryl's back on. So Darryl, what I kind of gave
54:30
was the using my hands. You know, when the church is
54:35
like this, there is no moral disagreement.
54:40
But because the church is, you know, we're losing the
54:44
connection between the people and our moral compass and God is
54:49
our true north. The moral disagreement is
54:52
separating between those who have God is their true north
54:57
versus those who do not. And thinking that will somehow
55:03
you know we are one and the same and when we are not.
55:07
Because what's the foundation of your morality?
55:14
Well, but we have imperfect people running things.
55:28
That's why the difficulty continues to mount as it does,
55:34
because we are imperfect. People attempted to serve a
55:38
perfect God. That's our difficulty.
55:43
True. And I mean, but before we leave
55:51
here, we are at the backside of this, but the hour goes fast is
55:55
it just does. It does we're.
55:58
Going to always, we're going to always have these moral
56:01
disagreements and the moral agreements that we do reach,
56:05
there's still some disagreement there.
56:07
So it's not perfect. But what we do have is the
56:10
aspect of people who really are trying to ensure that there's
56:17
something wonderful that occurs when we're trying to hammer out
56:21
agreements that are going to please God, not people.
56:25
That's that's our problem often is trying to please people.
56:29
People. Never going to please.
56:31
It's always going to be something.
56:32
Well, you could have put that in right all.
56:37
Well, you can. You can please.
56:39
You can. You can always please God you.
56:41
But you can't always. Yeah, can't.
56:44
No, can't, can't, can't please all the people.
56:47
It it it even in our lives? Because when I love man, this is
56:53
smothering, right? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's
56:57
smothering. It's, it's because it's, it's
56:59
too objective and subjective to some people because they never
57:02
experienced it before or they have, but they don't want it.
57:08
They say they do, but they don't want it.
57:10
It's the same thing with the, the, the moral disagreement,
57:14
right? It's not going to be perfect,
57:17
but when we continue to have creeping compromises, it's never
57:20
going to be perfect. Right.
57:23
Never, ever, ever. All right, so we need to do a
57:27
closing prayer. And how about are we ready to
57:30
jump into Exodus next week? Because I'm kind of excited,
57:33
looking forward to jumping into Exodus.
57:35
You won't be excited when you get the Numbers, Leviticus, and
57:38
Deuteronomy, but go ahead. It's OK.
57:40
I know we'll we'll start Exodus. I mean, it's a new season.
57:43
We need to, we need to jump into Exodus, so.
57:46
Is it going to be like, what is this?
57:48
I told. You.
57:50
No, it's OK. We'll, we'll get it.
57:51
All right. So are you still driving?
57:54
Right. So.
57:56
All right, all right. Bo Winkle or Bambi?
57:59
OK, All right. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you
58:03
for bringing us all together. Thank you for another fabulous
58:07
show, great discussion about some very important topics.
58:12
Thank you for giving us this opportunity and letting veterans
58:17
voices be heard because I know that we have some serious topics
58:22
that we've talked about today And, and dear Lord, help us find
58:29
moral agreement. Help us find you as our true
58:33
north as a part of this mission, that you provide us the
58:38
direction that we are supposed to follow and that we and our
58:43
and our fellow listeners are willing to submit and bend the
58:47
knee to you. In your name we pray.
58:50
Amen. All right, folks.
58:54
So jump into next week, bring some great topics that I know
59:01
are going to come up. So I'm looking forward to doing
59:04
that as well. So.
59:05
And if you guys want to jump in on the chat or come on and say
59:08
something, hey, just make it happen.
59:11
Bring it on, bring it on, bring it on.
59:14
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