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Where Is Nancy Guthrie Journalist Brian Entin From News Nation Digs In Deeper On CW · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Good good, I'm good, sir. Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: talking with me. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: This is a conversation that has to be had, and
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  Speaker 1: the reason why is because this story has fallen off
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  Speaker 1: the front page and it should not be off the
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  Speaker 1: front page yet, and we need people like yourself to
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  Speaker 1: be able to step through all of the clutter that's
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  Speaker 1: going on and really get us on the inside because Brian,
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  Speaker 1: I trust you. And that's the thing about it is
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  Speaker 1: that I think that and when Boone dive into this,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna say, I trust him. He has something that
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  Speaker 1: we need to know and he's not gonna let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for saying that.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Yeah, I just I couldn't shake this.
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  Speaker 3: Nancy got three story. I got there the day after
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  Speaker 3: Nancy went missing February second. I was in Tucson for
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  Speaker 3: almost two months, gone back almost every week since it's
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  Speaker 3: now been three months. And I just how does an
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  Speaker 3: any four year old woman just disappear out of her
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  Speaker 3: bed in the middle of the night. No signs of
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  Speaker 3: fourth century, the inside of the house described as immaculate
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  Speaker 3: to me, clean, not ransacked, nothing missing.
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  Speaker 2: It just it just doesn't add up. I can't shake it.
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  Speaker 3: So we wanted to put together this, this special with
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  Speaker 3: everything we know for the CW to just kind of
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  Speaker 3: keep you know, keep the awareness going.
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  Speaker 1: So is this the first time that CW and News
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  Speaker 1: Nation have teamed up together. I love that. When I
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  Speaker 1: saw that, I really did get excited to see that
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  Speaker 1: these these two broadcast entities and connections are working together
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  Speaker 1: as one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we've done it a couple of times
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  Speaker 2: in the past.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've got the same parent company next to
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  Speaker 3: our media, so it makes it easy for us to
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  Speaker 3: do and for me, you know, to get the awareness
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  Speaker 3: out about Nancy Gustrier. Im, you know, everyday news nation
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  Speaker 3: talking about it and all the little developments here and
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  Speaker 3: there and every little new thing that I uncover. But
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  Speaker 3: to be able to put it all together in one hour, literally,
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  Speaker 3: I go back to the beginning and everything that our
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  Speaker 3: sources have told us. Be able to put into a
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  Speaker 3: one hour show where people can sit down and learn
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  Speaker 3: everything is.
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  Speaker 2: It's worked out pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I just hope, maybe, you know, maybe that
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  Speaker 3: one person will see it that will decide to call
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  Speaker 3: in the tip that will break the whole thing open.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad you just said that, because it
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  Speaker 1: is well written in my daily journals that I said
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  Speaker 1: that it will not be the police department or the
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  Speaker 1: FBI that will solve this case. It's going to take
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  Speaker 1: somebody like you, Brian, because people trust you like I
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  Speaker 1: just shared with you, Because they're going to come forward
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  Speaker 1: because they've got something. It is a sliver and that
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  Speaker 1: sliver is going to get inside your journalist's mind and
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone knows something. Yes, I think that I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: confident saying that. There's also still you know, there's DNA
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  Speaker 3: evidence that's being tested, and we get into that in
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  Speaker 3: the special. There's a strand of hair that was found
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  Speaker 3: that's now at the FBI lab in Quantico. So I
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  Speaker 3: just hope, you know, some of that stuff takes time.
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  Speaker 3: It can take months. The DNA technologies evolving every day,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I just hope that there's even a
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  Speaker 3: DNA breakthrough that can crack this thing open.
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  Speaker 1: If I looked at that, at that camera that's on
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  Speaker 1: the doorbell, over and over again. How many times have
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  Speaker 1: you watched it, You've got to feel inside your soul.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the eyes. If I can just see those
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  Speaker 1: eyes out here in the real world, that's the person
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking for.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's creepy. It's like a horror movie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you watched that video and I've watched it over and
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  Speaker 3: and you're right. You can see his eyes, you can
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  Speaker 3: see his eyebrows, you can see his mouth, you can
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  Speaker 3: see the way he walks and his gait, the clothing,
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  Speaker 3: the backpack that was bought Walmart. When that video came out,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, it's only going to be a matter
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  Speaker 3: of days that, you know, the video like this comes
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  Speaker 3: out and someone's going to call on the tip, someone's
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  Speaker 3: going to recognize this guy. I never would have thought
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  Speaker 3: now three months and nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, you're saying he, I've always said she. I am
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  Speaker 1: convinced that it's a woman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it could be it could be a well
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  Speaker 3: we don't we don't know the gender, and we don't
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  Speaker 3: know whether there's more people involved. And that's something we
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  Speaker 3: get into in the special with these FBI profilers that's
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  Speaker 3: so interesting about you know, was there a mastermind what
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  Speaker 3: they call a puppet master And they use the analogy
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  Speaker 3: like a chef and a waiter. Was there a chef
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and the guy that you see at
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  Speaker 3: the front door is just the waiter? And and there's
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  Speaker 3: actually this is actually more planned than than you realize
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  Speaker 3: just looking at that video.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're looking now you just paid the photo here
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  Speaker 1: of Charlie you know, I mean Charlie Manson. I mean
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  Speaker 1: because did something because I never even thought about what
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  Speaker 1: you just said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that it could be it could be
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  Speaker 3: more people, and I mean you can go down some
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  Speaker 3: wild holes here and we do it in the special.
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  Speaker 3: The three profilers we have, one of them is doctor
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  Speaker 3: am Burgess. One of the original FBI profiles from their
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  Speaker 3: behavioral unit. And you know, they even have this theory
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  Speaker 3: that it's possible that that person in the video that
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  Speaker 3: you see at the front door could actually be dead,
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  Speaker 3: that there is a puppet master who to avoid it
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  Speaker 3: all getting out and to avoid you know, being found,
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  Speaker 3: killed that person and that's why you still don't hear anything.
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  Speaker 3: So it's going to be an interesting hour sort of
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  Speaker 3: going through all of these different possibilities.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Brian Inton from
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  Speaker 1: News Nation and CW coming up next. I love this.
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  Speaker 1: The CW and News Nation have teamed up to give
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  Speaker 1: us the Nancy Guthrie Mystery. It's hosted by journalists Brian Inton.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about the fact is that you aren't
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  Speaker 1: afraid to stir up some emotions here. It's almost like
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  Speaker 1: that you're stirring the pot so that people will come
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  Speaker 1: forward and say, no, I know the way. That was
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  Speaker 1: a good attempt, but I know something you don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to share it with you so that
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  Speaker 1: we can go the way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: Look, whatever it takes to get people talking about it,
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  Speaker 3: to keep it in the news.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned a lot of people have moved on.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I started out there in Tucson and the had hundreds
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  Speaker 3: of reporters lining in the street, and then suddenly I
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  Speaker 3: was the last one standing out there, And I'm thinking, like,
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  Speaker 3: how did people just move on from something like this?
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  Speaker 3: I get, you know that in most places about clicks
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  Speaker 3: and about you know, the biggest story of the day.
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  Speaker 3: But in my mind, I just couldn't. I couldn't shake it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she's still missing, and it just doesn't add up.
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  Speaker 1: Are they exploring the world of religion and other groups
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  Speaker 1: that people gather in, because I mean that to me
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  Speaker 1: was a scent of something right away too. When I'm
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  Speaker 1: going they don't know who did this, but there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: wrecked in the house, who took her, who's borrowing her
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm told that you know that that every
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  Speaker 3: theory is still on the table.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that they haven't ruled anything out.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing the sheriff has officially said is that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the family has been cleared.
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  Speaker 2: I have the sources says they did.
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  Speaker 3: Polygraphs behind the scenes, So beyond that, it sounds like
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  Speaker 3: they're exploring anything at this point.
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  Speaker 1: How is this changing you as a journalist, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I love about about what you
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  Speaker 1: guys do is that every day is a new wall
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  Speaker 1: and somehow you get up and it's like, how did
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  Speaker 1: they do that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's been a long it's been a
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  Speaker 3: long haul this one. Like I said, I was in
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  Speaker 3: Tucson for two months. You know, you're out at the
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  Speaker 3: house every days. It's really hot there. And for me,
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  Speaker 3: it's just, yeah, I think about my own mom. I
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  Speaker 3: think about a lot of people are interested in the
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  Speaker 3: case because of Savannah Gustrie and the sort of a
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  Speaker 3: celebrity aspect. But for me, and and for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of others, it's like you think about your own parents
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  Speaker 3: who are older and live alone, and you know there
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  Speaker 3: are people always trying to scam them or take advantage.
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  Speaker 3: You're worried about break ins, and this is just like
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  Speaker 3: the ultimate nightmare in that way. So I think for me,
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  Speaker 3: I've connected to it in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: See, I think my connection to this story runs so deep.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I've really gotten into Savannah's new book, which
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  Speaker 1: deals with her religious studies and her family and put
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  Speaker 1: this first and then all of a sudden, something like
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  Speaker 1: this happens. It destroyed me because I just experienced her
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  Speaker 1: book only to have this here, And it's really going
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  Speaker 1: to take a lot of people around this country a
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  Speaker 1: long time to get over it, because her mother has
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  Speaker 1: become our grandmother. And if you don't think we've gotten
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  Speaker 1: protective of our older generation right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, And it just feels like there's someone always
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  Speaker 3: trying to take advantage of them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel like that too.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you're on guard all the time with your
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  Speaker 3: parents and grandparents.
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  Speaker 2: And Nancy was just the sweetest woman.
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  Speaker 3: And I learned that through people that I met in
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  Speaker 3: Tucson that know her. She lived in that house since
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  Speaker 3: the seventies. Everybody loved her, and she had her church
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  Speaker 3: group on Sundays. She was part of a walking group
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  Speaker 3: for a long time before she got sick with other
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  Speaker 3: ladies in the neighborhood. She worked at the local university.
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  Speaker 3: People were so proud of Savannah there. You know, she's
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  Speaker 3: from there. She went to college there. She grew into
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  Speaker 3: this big star. She was a real point of pride
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  Speaker 3: in Tucson. And for it all to kind of unfold
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  Speaker 3: this way is just heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to ask a question. I hope I'm
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  Speaker 1: not stepping on anybody's toes. Is there a possibility that
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  Speaker 1: she just walked away and that this was part of
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  Speaker 1: her just walking away? I don't mean that harshly. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that it's happened in history where people just walk away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I don't think so, because a her medical issues,
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  Speaker 3: she didn't even walk to the mailbox. Yes, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean she had a hard time walking period, and her
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  Speaker 3: you know, her phone and everything, her car was still there.
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  Speaker 3: And then also she was cognitively totally with it. I mean, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you hear about older people with Alzheimer's and
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  Speaker 3: stuff walking away, but she had no She had no
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  Speaker 3: mental issues, she had no Alzheimer's, she had no cognitive issues.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the chance of that happening is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: slim to none.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see your desk, because I'll bet you
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  Speaker 1: you've got a world of controlled chaos going on around you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a lot of papers, and like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I was living out of the hotel in Tucson and
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  Speaker 3: going out to the house every day and just trying
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  Speaker 3: to keep it all together.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned in the very beginning that I do believe
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  Speaker 1: that someone like you, because we trust you, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to reach out to you. Do you want that or
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  Speaker 1: is there a certain line that you want them to
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  Speaker 1: reach out to to bring information forward?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I would say, don't reach out to me. If you
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  Speaker 3: have real information, reach out to the FBI. The numbers one,
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred, call FBI. I know for a fact, they
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  Speaker 3: go through all of the tips. There's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: that come in, none go ignored, and someone out there
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  Speaker 3: will have Someone out there will.
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  Speaker 2: Have the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Someone out there, even if it's something small, someone out
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  Speaker 3: there has the little detail that's gonna that's gonna bust
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  Speaker 3: this wide open.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be Jerry that saw at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be somebody that saw her right before
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  Speaker 1: it somewhere and they're gonna go, that's her. Okay, it's time,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to come forward.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly yep, by one hundred percent. Agree.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, How do how do you trust the information that
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  Speaker 1: you're receiving in this in this clickbait generation? I just
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  Speaker 1: what you go through has got to be a mental
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  Speaker 1: storm every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have to go through it.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of rumors online,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of theories, there's a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 3: not based in fact. But at the same time, with
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  Speaker 3: something like this that's unsolved, it's like you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to just overlook anything.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's the same for authorities.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, someone might sound a little nutty in
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  Speaker 3: the beginning, and then you start to dig into it
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  Speaker 3: and you think, wait a minute, there's actually could be
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  Speaker 3: some truth to this, So you got to be careful.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, with something I've
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  Speaker 3: just I've gotten a lot of sorts of praisey emails
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  Speaker 3: and stuff since this began. It's kind of opened up
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  Speaker 3: a whole can of worms.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want you and CW as well as News
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  Speaker 1: Nation to do a special after she has been located
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  Speaker 1: and the story has been unveiled, because we're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: that as closure as well as growing forward. Because it's
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  Speaker 1: here and you've got the courage and the balls to
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  Speaker 1: share this story when it's falling off the headlines. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Jean. I would love to do that special.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that would be amazing if it all comes
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  Speaker 3: comes together that way and there's a happy ending, and
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate you for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sir, thank you so much. Thank you