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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, October twentieth, I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Penn State game is tomorrow, the game against Michigan in
- 0:07thirty six days. On yesterday's show, we talked to our buddy Ross Fulton
- 0:11all about the Ohio State offense and what we learned from the Purdue game,
- 0:13what it might mean moving forward for Penn State. And now today we're gonna
- 0:17be looking at the Ohio State defense. Some common themes there, some generally
- 0:21positive news overall, It's undoubtedly welcome for Buckeye fans this time of year.
- 0:26And on yesterday show we talked about a someone who seems like it might be
- 0:30a little bit of a breakout possibility, Indllan Hayden. Now we're going to
- 0:33start Ross on the defensive side of the ball with someone else who seems like
- 0:36he might be taking on a bigger role than expected for the Buckeyes right now.
- 0:40First of all, we're talking about we're talking about Cody Simon, and
- 0:42it feels like he is taking on a much bigger role in the Ohio State
- 0:45linebacker room than you might have thought just a few weeks ago. Yeah,
- 0:50I think I tweeted during the game that I felt like Simon had taken over
- 0:53the position, which maybe is jumping the gun a bit, but he seems
- 0:58to be taking increasing snaps away from steel Chambers, And you know, I
- 1:04doubt that, I doubt it ever fully happens that steel Chambers is in playing.
- 1:07I do think Chambers is probably a little bit better against the pass than
- 1:14Cody Simon is, but I do think that Simon definitely adds something as a
- 1:19run defender from that position, particularly in filling holes. And you know,
- 1:23this play is a good example. Jim Knowles is funny, after like the
- 1:27last couple of weeks of talking about like how he's you know, toned down
- 1:33bringing pressure really amped it up this game. Uh, there's a lot of
- 1:36bletzing, and this is this is one example of it. This It looks
- 1:41like this is a double a gap linebacker hot blitz, so you're playing like
- 1:46three deep and kind of a two under underneath it with eyes and he uses
- 1:51a couple of times against on first intend to defend the run. But again,
- 1:55I mean, I think this is just a good example. So even
- 1:57putting aside, like they can continue to expand the package and we're going to
- 2:01talk about another example of that next, but like more and more volume and
- 2:06what they're doing coverage wise and scheme wise. You know, I think there's
- 2:10multiple examples of like Simon coming downhill and filling a hole. So like to
- 2:15the extent you know, we talked about last week there was concern about linebackers
- 2:20filling you know, Simon definitely brings that element to his game in terms of,
- 2:25you know, being able to take on a block and make a play
- 2:28against the run in the hole. All right, so the last play we
- 2:30looked at that was Cody Simon kind of helping make the play and then TYLERK
- 2:35Williams kind of got the glory on that one. Got to stand up and
- 2:38stand up and dance a little bit. Next one, this is a Taileek
- 2:42Williams play. He had a real nice game against Pretty on Saturday. It
- 2:45feels like you're finally seeing what Ohio State fans have been waiting to see.
- 2:47Ninety one has in fact been freed and it is paying off real well for
- 2:52Ohio State. Right now, let's run us through this next one. Ross.
- 2:54Yeah, I mean, I guess the benefit of I guess it's probably
- 2:58self evident that if you're playing very good defense, you're gonna have some very
- 3:02good players, you know, and it would be hard for me like to
- 3:06pick between you know, j T. Twomloo, Denzel Burke, you know
- 3:12both Lathan Rams and Josh Proctor playing really well. Uh, you know,
- 3:15Tommy Eichenberg obviously, but like Tyler Williams has been very good and like he
- 3:19he is a load for teams to deal with inside but against the run of
- 3:23the pass. And obviously you know, he had a couple of these backdowns
- 3:27and he was close to a couple more in terms of in addition to other
- 3:30times where he just like flat made the play, you know, like they
- 3:32do have times. We're gonna talk about how they sometimes are playing late in
- 3:37the box, uh to defend the pass, and there are times where they
- 3:40you know, that's gotten them occasionally gets to run. But there's other times
- 3:44where you know, Williamson Hall just control the lot of scrimmage and or they're
- 3:47able to get away with it because their defensive tackles are making plays. But
- 3:52this is also interesting schematically, so again talking about expanding the package show here,
- 3:57Ohio State runs a two deep four nder his own blitz, so they're
- 4:00bringing five, they're gonna play a Cover two behind it with just but with
- 4:03just four defenders. So again you're like you're also seeing the continued evolution of
- 4:10the scheme. Like it was not like Maryland where they mix up coverages a
- 4:14ton. They played a lot more Cover one as a percentage of what they
- 4:16were doing against Purdue. But you still saw, you know, we talked
- 4:20about hot we talked about this cover too, We talked you know, you
- 4:24saw still some Cover two, just regular cover two, some Cover three,
- 4:28so a little bit of brackets. So again, like it's they are a
- 4:33much more very defense this year, which is just I think certainly helping them
- 4:39keep opposing quarterbacks off balance and helping their you know, then pressure get home
- 4:45and make an impact. Well here's another neck coming up next is another play
- 4:48where pressure got home. And this time it was not J. T.
- 4:51Twomloo or Tyler Williams or Denzel Berg or Timely Eikenberg. It was Jack Sawyer.
- 4:58And that's this is one that I think a lot of Ohio State fans
- 5:00of a going win, is it going to be Jack Sawyer's turn? And
- 5:02then it was, uh, what happened? What happened here? That helped
- 5:05him, helped him get home on this one. Yeah. Again, So
- 5:09another example of what they were doing this game, which is a lot of
- 5:13pressure. So another this is a six man cover one blitz. So they're
- 5:16bringing bringing both linebackers. You know, you saw them again, they bring
- 5:20Latham Ransom, particularly when perdu got inside the red zone. Gymnles loves using
- 5:26the boundary safety blitz with Ransom filling against the run. But like you know,
- 5:30hey to Sawyer and I thought JT's credit too, Like they seemed,
- 5:35you know, maybe they were given a little bit more freedom in terms of
- 5:38the pass rush, uh, you know, in terms of like a two
- 5:42way go or or ability to you know, make moves on the opposing tackle
- 5:47because you see a little bit more of that, and you know, it's
- 5:50sort of one of those things I think once you start making a play,
- 5:53it sort of you know runs downhill and start guys start getting a little bit
- 5:58more comfortable and a little looser, and you know, I think the defense
- 6:00is feeding off the energy as well, Like you can see the confidence like
- 6:03even you know, as we'll talk about even when a team makes it drive
- 6:06like last year, it was like as soon as the team got inside the
- 6:10ten yard line, they were going to score a touchdown. Like Ohio States
- 6:12red zone defense is really poor like this year obviously, like the you know,
- 6:16the goal line stand at the end of the first half is a great
- 6:20example, but like repeatedly they do, like even if they give up a
- 6:24few first downs, they you know, they're not giving up explosive plays and
- 6:27then they're making it difficult to score points. Well, earlier you mentioned,
- 6:30you know that they were kind of playing down a body at times, and
- 6:33and this is part of the two minute drill that led up to that goal
- 6:38line stand. We'll get to the we'll get to that in a minute,
- 6:40but first, you know, what what do you mean when you're talking about
- 6:43that playing them playing down a body or being a little light. Yeah,
- 6:46so you know when you're just you just don't have enough defenders to play the
- 6:48run, right, So this happened a couple of times to them on this
- 6:51drive. And so part of me, including this point is like it shouldn't
- 6:56be a cost for concern. Like you know, Perdue did have a couple
- 7:00of chunk run plays. They usually happened in this sort of situation where you
- 7:04know, so so Purdue here kind of caught them. You know, they
- 7:09they run outside zone, a split outside zone to their trip side in Ohio,
- 7:15State is rotating down to like a cover one opposite it, and so
- 7:20there's just no safety available on that side. So you've got you know,
- 7:25your interior six that are accounting for a gap, but there's no edge defender
- 7:30because they they're lacking a force player and that you know, opens up some
- 7:33opportunities. And that happened a couple of times where they would they would rotate.
- 7:38I mean, I think Purdue was getting them somewhat with the split zone
- 7:40action and cover one and like that'll be you know, something to watch and
- 7:45you know, going forward, particularly, I'm sure Penn State will be taking
- 7:46notes and trying to do so. I doubt all have to stay plays quite
- 7:50as much cover one consistently against Penn State as they did against Purdue. But
- 7:56like, nonetheless, like in terms of like trying to catch your rotation the
- 8:00opposite way, prdue a couple of nice ones of those. But again,
- 8:03you know, so you're just you know, it's not a matter of getting
- 8:09gash or like guys getting control of the line scrimmage. You're just you know,
- 8:11you don't have a forced defender available, all right, And so you
- 8:16mentioned split zone and Purdue having success with that, and so if you run
- 8:20split zone at the one, you figure, how hard can it be to
- 8:22pick up one yard ross? Come on, it's one yard? I can
- 8:26I can stretch my arms that far, but they my hands would be out
- 8:28of the frame. So I'm not going to do it. But you know,
- 8:31if you know this is this is a this is a play that I
- 8:35guess going into the half. You know, the game was more or less
- 8:39out of hand. It was twenty to nothing or whatever it was at halftime,
- 8:43and so it doesn't really matter, but also it kind of matters.
- 8:46This is one of these sort of point of pride things. I think Buckey's
- 8:48get a really nice goal line stand against Purdue Bullet, the one that Purdue
- 8:52somehow ends up not scoring with a little help from the special teams. But
- 8:56how did what did Ohio State do to hold strong in this goal line stand?
- 9:01Yeah? And again I mean I think as we as a reference earlier,
- 9:03like I do think this shows like sort of where the psychological energy and
- 9:07mindset of the Ohio State defenses right now in terms of their confidence and like
- 9:13they're sort of you know, even when their backs up against the ball,
- 9:15they're still making plays. But like also like this kind of further emphasize my
- 9:18point that like you know, Purdue hit a couple of like twenty yard runs,
- 9:22it was largely at numbers issue like when Ohio State wants to play the
- 9:26run, like they can play the run. This is really well done.
- 9:28So like you know, we talked before about how you have to fall back
- 9:31as linebackers at the second level against split zone, and so you see that
- 9:35executed really well here between Tommy Eikenberg and Josh Proctor essentially acting as a you
- 9:43know, a sam linebacker and Cody Simon as well, and so they see
- 9:46the block, they fall back and they you know, Ikenberg meets the running
- 9:50back in the hole. And so again, like I it makes sense,
- 9:54I think like from a bigger picture perspective that like that Ohio State is at
- 9:58times going with the light box because both of their safeties and really all three
- 10:03I mean, if you want to include sunny styles as well, are big
- 10:05guys that like are very comfortable coming downhill against the run. And so I
- 10:11think you like you know, you you know, you have that sort of
- 10:13in your back pocket and you know that they can. They can do that
- 10:16from depth to and so you know better to make sure you're not giving up
- 10:20explicit plays in the back end. But like that, you know, this
- 10:22is sort of an example of like when they do equate numbers and this is
- 10:26I think why they're being pretty effective as a short yardage and goalie defense right
- 10:30now. Like you know, whether it be the fourth down stops we've talked
- 10:31about in previous weeks or here, like they can you know, between the
- 10:35defensive tackles and the second level, like they can definitely you know, make
- 10:41it difficult for an offense when they want to. All right, Well that
- 10:46was that covers the defensive side of the ball. We talked about the offense
- 10:48yesterday. We're gonna be talking more about the Penn State side of things moving
- 10:52forward. Have a little bonus show for you with Ross coming up of course
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