Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Syl Trepanier, Senior Vice President and Chief Nurse Executive at Providence
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- 0:00This is Scott Becker with the Beckers HealthCare
- 0:02podcast.
- 0:04I'm thrilled today to visit with a great
- 0:06leader.
- 0:07We're joined today by doctor Cyril Treponier.
- 0:10Doctor Treponier is the chief nursing officer or
- 0:13executive at the Providence Health System. The Providence
- 0:16System is one of the great systems in
- 0:18the country,
- 0:19incredibly committed. It's one of the largest not
- 0:21for profit systems, but also very faith based,
- 0:24very mission oriented,
- 0:26great leadership in a terrific organization.
- 0:29So thank you so much for joining us,
- 0:31doctor Trepagnier. Can you take a moment and
- 0:33introduce yourself and and tell us a bit
- 0:35about the Providence system?
- 0:37Absolutely. So thanks for having me, Scott. Syl
- 0:40Trepagnier and I serve as the
- 0:42chief nurse executive for Providence,
- 0:45and as you mentioned, a faith based,
- 0:47a mission driven, health care system based in
- 0:50just outside of, Seattle, Washington.
- 0:53I've been serving in this role,
- 0:55going on close to five years now, and,
- 0:59I've served as
- 1:01a as a chief nurse in system and
- 1:03regional role since the,
- 1:06mid, like, February
- 1:08and, been a chief nurse for over twenty
- 1:11years now. So it's a absolute
- 1:13pleasure and honor to be serving the nurses
- 1:15at Providence.
- 1:17And how many nurses are there at Providence?
- 1:19I remember you telling me a couple years
- 1:21ago, and I know it's a an astoundingly
- 1:23large number. Tell us how many nurses there
- 1:26are in the system.
- 1:28Around 36,000.
- 1:30I
- 1:31mean, that is literally
- 1:33incredible.
- 1:34And talk about
- 1:36what it's like to lead a team of
- 1:3830,000
- 1:39nurses and how you moved from nursing into
- 1:41leadership.
- 1:43Well, it's an absolute honor to be able
- 1:45to serve for all of these, of these
- 1:47voices. And and and, honestly,
- 1:50it's
- 1:51the best way that I can,
- 1:54honor them is to ensure that their voices
- 1:57are heard from the from the bedside to
- 1:59the to the boardroom.
- 2:01So at Providence, for instance, we very much,
- 2:05like my other colleagues,
- 2:06are leveraging,
- 2:07you know, professional governance models where
- 2:10we create spaces for nurses to bring practice,
- 2:15issues locally.
- 2:16And that makes audit all, you know, its
- 2:18way up to,
- 2:20up to me and,
- 2:22you know, bidirectionally.
- 2:23And so having
- 2:25presence and showing a lot of curiosity is
- 2:28the is the best way you can, you
- 2:30can lead 36,000
- 2:31nurses.
- 2:33And and you've spent time as well at
- 2:35Texas Tech.
- 2:37You're from Montreal originally.
- 2:39And and
- 2:41and and talk for a second about,
- 2:43you know,
- 2:44more of a hockey fan or a football
- 2:46fan at this point in life?
- 2:49Well, that is an interesting question.
- 2:51Still to this day, way much more of
- 2:53a hockey fan than a football player.
- 2:56That has not, that has not changed. And
- 2:58so I'm gonna ask you the question for
- 3:00the day, which you, of course, know the
- 3:02answer to.
- 3:04When people say,
- 3:07I'm saying it incorrectly, I'm sure.
- 3:09What are they referring to?
- 3:12Now you have me stumped here for a
- 3:14second.
- 3:15Because I pronounce it so badly.
- 3:18The Montreal
- 3:19Canadians. But I I said it poorly, so
- 3:21it's my fault.
- 3:22I
- 3:24Got it.
- 3:25I will move on from that. But tell
- 3:28us sort of when you look at nursing
- 3:29today
- 3:30and trends the last few years, what does
- 3:33it look like today versus a couple years
- 3:35ago? Are the shortages less acute? Are they
- 3:38more acute? What are you watching currently in
- 3:40terms of nursing staffing and
- 3:42and and taking care of the nursing population?
- 3:46You know, it's like some stuff has changed
- 3:48so much and some
- 3:50has not,
- 3:52and not for not for not for the
- 3:54good, I would, I would say.
- 3:56I'll I'll start us off with,
- 3:59I worry that when you when you look
- 4:01at how we approach
- 4:02here at the bedside,
- 4:04although everything has changed around us,
- 4:07that has not changed so much, and and
- 4:10that's a huge opportunity for us. I've I've
- 4:13been saying for the last few years, and
- 4:15the the older I get into this profession,
- 4:18the more affirmation I have around this statement,
- 4:21which is the biggest risk
- 4:23that we have in health care in general
- 4:26and in our practice is the status quo.
- 4:29What got us here is not gonna get
- 4:30us there tomorrow,
- 4:32and we have to be laser focused, and
- 4:35we have to find the courage
- 4:37to change our models of care so that
- 4:39they can meet the needs of the patients
- 4:41of tomorrow. And and that's the part that
- 4:43I worry about the most and where we
- 4:46need to spend a lot of our energies
- 4:47today.
- 4:49Thank you. And when when you look at
- 4:51sort of,
- 4:52the the number one issue facing nurses today
- 4:55or the number one or two issues facing
- 4:57nurses today, what what do you think about
- 4:59when you think about the issues that they're
- 5:01facing,
- 5:02you're facing? Talk a little bit about that.
- 5:05It's it's it's hard to narrow it down
- 5:07to two, but I will do my best.
- 5:09I would say one of the most important
- 5:12is the environment in which they practice today
- 5:15and the increased,
- 5:18level of,
- 5:19of violence,
- 5:20that they,
- 5:22that is brought
- 5:23in our health care environments,
- 5:25and where they practices. And and and more
- 5:28and more,
- 5:30it's so sad to hear and see that
- 5:33how nurses don't feel safe,
- 5:35in the environment. So whatever whatever all of
- 5:37what we can do,
- 5:39we're never gonna have great outcomes if we
- 5:42if people don't feel safe to begin with.
- 5:43And and, you know, we're talking about nurses
- 5:46today, but that's really for all clinicians.
- 5:48So, that's a priority.
- 5:50Safety for our patients is as equally as
- 5:53important as safety for our caregivers, our nurses,
- 5:56and the like. So so I wanna call
- 5:58out,
- 5:59safety as a as a number one priority
- 6:03for everyone.
- 6:05The other priority,
- 6:07which still remains to this day, is,
- 6:09and and I'll say, like, workforce and
- 6:12from a large perspective, I'm thinking of,
- 6:16yes, recruitment,
- 6:17retention,
- 6:18and all that, is very important.
- 6:21And you and I know, that it looks
- 6:23very different today than it did,
- 6:26a few years ago. I mean, certainly, the
- 6:28pandemic has changed, has changed everything, and it's
- 6:31changed
- 6:32how we need to engage with, with our
- 6:34nurses. So the the priority,
- 6:36quite frankly, is to identify the
- 6:40the the best models,
- 6:42that where we can
- 6:44best leverage,
- 6:46nurses for their, for their knowledge and their
- 6:49expertise.
- 6:51And so finding finding them and making sure
- 6:54that you have the right, to and retain
- 6:56them. And I believe that the best way
- 6:58we can retain them is to actually work
- 7:00very closely with them to change how they
- 7:03practice
- 7:04and how we, how we want them to,
- 7:07to be leveraged in today's environment.
- 7:10Thank you. And and and looking forward or
- 7:12or maybe take one step back. You've got
- 7:14tremendous leadership at Providence.
- 7:17I take it that leadership today
- 7:20between Eric
- 7:21that that must be between Eric Glaxler and
- 7:23the entire team must be very supportive
- 7:27of the nursing part of the system. So
- 7:29it's such an important part of the system.
- 7:31And how important is that that support from
- 7:34leadership,
- 7:34including yourself,
- 7:36to having a great nurse culture and and
- 7:39and great community?
- 7:40Oh, it's huge. It's it's it's very important.
- 7:43We are so very grateful
- 7:46for Eric's leadership
- 7:48and his and and how he values
- 7:51the clinicians
- 7:52in his entire organization.
- 7:55I, for one, am very grateful that as
- 7:58he,
- 7:59took the helm of our system and re
- 8:02redefined,
- 8:03his, you know, his his leadership team and
- 8:06who he feel is important to to be
- 8:08around him, every day to
- 8:11to to guide and,
- 8:13you know, and the likes. He's he surrounds
- 8:16himself with,
- 8:18with clinicians, and, his top two clinicians
- 8:21of, you know, nursing and physicians are very
- 8:25important,
- 8:26to him.
- 8:27And I'm grateful for that, and our profession
- 8:30is very grateful for that because we
- 8:32we we find that
- 8:35we're able to better align ourselves with those
- 8:37who,
- 8:39who touch our patients every day, and we
- 8:41have to be
- 8:43laser focused,
- 8:44on that because that's, you know, that's, I
- 8:46mean, that's our mission in life. Right? That's
- 8:48that's our whole intent of why we exist
- 8:50is to
- 8:52is to care for people at their most
- 8:54vulnerable moment. So he's,
- 8:57he's a great, leader and a great partner,
- 9:00and,
- 9:02and that allows us to to be more,
- 9:05effective in what we do every day.
- 9:07That's fantastic. And and
- 9:10so as we head into this next year,
- 9:13what are you most focused on and excited
- 9:15about?
- 9:17So I am most,
- 9:18focused on making sure that we keep our
- 9:21environment,
- 9:22safe for nurses and for our patients.
- 9:26And what I am really most excited about
- 9:29is is technology
- 9:31and
- 9:32AI, and we have such great opportunities,
- 9:35in in health care. And and
- 9:37with nursing itself,
- 9:39there is clear opportunity to leverage, for instance,
- 9:42like ambient list listening, virtual care, robots, wearables.
- 9:47There's so much
- 9:49rapid advancement and technology
- 9:52that will help support the practice of, of
- 9:56nurses, and and I'm excited to lean, lean
- 9:58into that space.
- 10:01Thank you. And and so
- 10:03you've got the coolest name of anybody to
- 10:05get to interview, so Trippanyay.
- 10:07So I can't I I don't know where
- 10:09to go with that question, but here is
- 10:10the next question. Besides having an incredibly cool
- 10:13name, what advice do you give to emerging
- 10:16leaders who who want to have great leadership
- 10:18careers as well as great nursing careers? What
- 10:20advice would you give to an emerging leader?
- 10:23I would give them,
- 10:25the following advice. I would say
- 10:27lean in with tons of curiosity.
- 10:31Curiosity and leadership is one of the one
- 10:35of the most important,
- 10:37traits,
- 10:38because you,
- 10:40you learn a lot
- 10:43and you also,
- 10:44you also develop, you know, relationships,
- 10:48as you learn your way through. I would
- 10:50also
- 10:51remind aspiring,
- 10:53leaders that
- 10:56showing up with presence
- 10:58and intent
- 11:01and,
- 11:01being vulnerable
- 11:03where it makes sense, today,
- 11:05is also extremely,
- 11:07extremely important.
- 11:09We don't know everything. You never know everything.
- 11:12And that's why I started with showing up
- 11:14with lots of curiosity because
- 11:17leveraging
- 11:18the the power of those around you is
- 11:21is how the team, gets to be successful.
- 11:25Thank you very, very much. So I I
- 11:28love following the Providence system,
- 11:30doctor Treponier. I I love the system. I
- 11:33love following it. I love getting a chance
- 11:35to visit with you. It's it's an uncommon
- 11:37pleasure.
- 11:38You're the only person from Montreal I got
- 11:41to talk to today. And and I say
- 11:42that jokingly, but I just it's true. But
- 11:44I actually love visiting with you. Thank you
- 11:46so much for joining us today, on on
- 11:48the Becker's Healthcare Podcast. What a pleasure.
- 11:51Thanks for having me.