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Bonus Episode: Near Death Experiences and Unlikely Covers · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. It's the backyard to
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Speaker 1: dig into the dirt where our mission is to uncover
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Speaker 1: the truth, to confront the myth, and to reclaim the
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Speaker 1: story for music history. On this bonus episode, Dave Gahan
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Speaker 1: from Depeche Mode died and came back to life, and
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Speaker 1: what he saw afterward has us asking where do rock
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Speaker 1: stars go when they die? The near death experiences of
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Speaker 1: the Depeche Mode frontman and other rock stars, plus your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, dms,
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Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. This is
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Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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Speaker 1: thinkers who knows that the best history is the history
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Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories
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Speaker 1: they didn't want told. The kind that you'll end up
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Speaker 1: telling someone else. All right, disc goes, Let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: Where do rock stars go when they die? They don't
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Speaker 1: go to heaven where the angels fly. In this week's
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland on Depeche Mode, part of the story
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Speaker 1: focuses on the near death experience of singer Dave Kahan
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Speaker 1: and the time his heart stopped for two minutes after
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Speaker 1: injecting a speedball in nineteen ninety six. Dave survived. And
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Speaker 1: I love d stories. That's near death experience, So I
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Speaker 1: love this story. I love nd stories near death experience stories,
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Speaker 1: because it's the greatest trick in storytelling at play. Where
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Speaker 1: you tease, where you tease the audience with the answer
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Speaker 1: to a question that is just they just they have
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Speaker 1: to have the answer. They can't not have it. And
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Speaker 1: this is the greatest question of all what comes next?
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Speaker 1: I read a book on near death experiences once by
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Speaker 1: a neurosurgeon, A neurosurgeon who claims to have had an NDE.
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Speaker 1: Excuse me himself. He suffered from a coma and he
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Speaker 1: came back, and he gave a scientific explanation of what
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Speaker 1: he believes happened to him and where he went while
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Speaker 1: he was clinically dead and before he returned, and he too,
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Speaker 1: this neurosurgeon, like Dave Kahan, like I said, was clinically
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Speaker 1: dead for a moment. Now, Dave Kahn told enemy in
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen that when he died, he was floating above
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Speaker 1: his own body in the hospital room and looking down
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Speaker 1: at his former self while paramedics went about trying to
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Speaker 1: save his life. He said that these seconds of death
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Speaker 1: that he experienced for him anyways, they moved like hours,
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Speaker 1: time moved slow. He also said that he was screaming,
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Speaker 1: but nothing was happening, and he believes this was his
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Speaker 1: soul screaming out. And then came darkness, complete, all encompassing darkness,
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Speaker 1: and just this blackness. This is the important part. It
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Speaker 1: was frightening until Dave was eventually thrust back into his
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Speaker 1: body before waking up alive. Now in the book Proof
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Speaker 1: of Heaven, a Neurosurgeon's Journey into the afterlife, doctor even Alexander,
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Speaker 1: this is the neurosurgeon I was talking about earlier. He
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Speaker 1: went further in his near death experience than Dave Gahan.
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Speaker 1: His time of unconsciousness lasted longer than the Depeche mode
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Speaker 1: Frontman's and Doctor Alexander was in a coma for a
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Speaker 1: full seven days, and he describes his time on the
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Speaker 1: other side as a place of unconditional love, a place
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Speaker 1: where love permeates every element of your being, of being
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Speaker 1: tapped into a universal consciousness, where telepathic communication between other
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Speaker 1: souls is possible, where rich, vibrant colors dance with a
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Speaker 1: divine light, a portal of sorts, okay, a gateway to,
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Speaker 1: as he describes it, the all knowing, loving Creator. Should
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Speaker 1: be noted by the way that Doctor Alexander was an atheist,
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Speaker 1: I believe before he wrote this book, and he doesn't
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Speaker 1: go into spirituality or religion or faith very much at all.
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Speaker 1: That's not what this book is. It's again, it's very
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Speaker 1: scientific take on his experience describes. He describes the afterlife
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Speaker 1: as a place where one soul continues to learn and
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Speaker 1: grow and where everything is guided by the constant, overwhelming
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Speaker 1: sensation of connectedness and love. That sounds fucking awesome, But
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Speaker 1: it also sounds a little bit different than Dave Gahan
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Speaker 1: from Depeche Mode's experience. He was experiencing an all encompassing,
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Speaker 1: frightening blackness. Now I don't really know how doctor even
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Speaker 1: Alexander lived his life. From what I remember from the
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Speaker 1: book and I read it, I don't remember how many
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Speaker 1: years ago. It wasn't that long ago. From what I remember,
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Speaker 1: he led a pretty normal life as not only as
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Speaker 1: a doctor, but as a father, a husband, or brother,
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Speaker 1: a son, and his time in his coma was marked
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Speaker 1: by family members who visited him were caring for him.
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Speaker 1: These are all the signs of a man who not
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Speaker 1: only was loved, but who also most likely put a
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Speaker 1: lot of love into the world. And my point is
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Speaker 1: that we can probably assume that the doctor here didn't
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Speaker 1: live a life of depeche mode debauchery and leave a
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Speaker 1: trail of emotional hardship and personal relationship casualties along the way,
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Speaker 1: as most rock stars do. And maybe this is why
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Speaker 1: his afterlife experience the Doctors was so different from the
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Speaker 1: rock stars, from Dave gah Hans, And then again, maybe
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Speaker 1: he just wanted to sell a lot of books. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. People say a lot of things, Okay, even doctors,
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Speaker 1: but especially musicians. I just watched a video last night
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Speaker 1: of Robbie Williams, by the Way, claiming that he'd had
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Speaker 1: sex with a reptile or with a woman who turned
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Speaker 1: into a reptile in the middle of sex. I shit
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Speaker 1: you not, He's dead serious. I've talked about this before.
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Speaker 1: John Lennon. You know, we all love John Lennon. You know,
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Speaker 1: man of I don't need to qualify who John Lennon was.
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Speaker 1: We all know who John Lennon was. Right, but online
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Speaker 1: and went on a New York news program in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy four and detailed told a story, in detail and
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Speaker 1: in all seriousness to his fellow New Yorkers about the
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Speaker 1: UFO that he saw flying over his fifty Second Street apartment. Okay,
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Speaker 1: rockstars could say crazy shit. Keith Richards claims that he
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Speaker 1: snorted the ashes of his cremated father. Quincy Jones said
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Speaker 1: that Paul McCartney was the worst bass player he ever heard.
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Speaker 1: He also claimed Marlon Brando had sex with a mailbox.
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Speaker 1: By the way, in the exclusive section of this after
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Speaker 1: party episode, Zeth and I are going to dive into
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Speaker 1: the wild wild comments from the last interviews that Quincy
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Speaker 1: Jones gave before he died. All the outlandish stories that
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Speaker 1: Quincy told go to disgraylanmdpod dot com to become an
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Speaker 1: all access member of disgraysand and you'll get our take
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Speaker 1: on this Quincy Jones madness by unlocking this exclusive content
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Speaker 1: and more. Back to our story. However, where was I
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Speaker 1: yes the outlandish things that rockstars say. Quincy Jones said
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Speaker 1: like like I mentioned the Paul McCartney sucked all right,
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Speaker 1: Billy Corgan says that he once encountered a shape shifter.
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Speaker 1: Demi Lovado believes that her extraordinary vocal talent is derived
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Speaker 1: from extraterrestrial origins. Grimes says that she was raised by NHS.
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Speaker 1: Not to be confused with NDEs and hes. That's what
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Speaker 1: we're talking about here, That's what Grimes is talking about.
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Speaker 1: And hes are non human entities. Aliens, tall whites or
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Speaker 1: the grays or ultraterrestrials or shape shifters are fucking reptile people,
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Speaker 1: non human entities. This is who Grimes believes raised her. Okay, listen,
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Speaker 1: who am I to judge? What do we actually know? Anyways,
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Speaker 1: The more I learn, the less I know. That's how
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Speaker 1: I feel. That's how I feel these days. The more
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Speaker 1: I learn, the less I know. So who am I
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Speaker 1: to tell Dave Gahan that he didn't die? Or to
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Speaker 1: tell a neurosurgeon again, a literal brain surgeon that he
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Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's talking about. Now, there have been
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Speaker 1: other rock stars who have claimed to have died, and
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Speaker 1: not one of them describes their experiences as being one
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Speaker 1: of love and connectedness, like the good doctor here, not
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Speaker 1: that I've seen anyways. I'm talking about real rock stars,
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Speaker 1: not nice guys who play in jazz bands with their
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Speaker 1: local pastors on the weekend. Not guys. You know who
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, rock stars, Okay, Depeche fucking Modes front
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Speaker 1: man Nicki six, Okay, all of the real rock star
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Speaker 1: near death experience descriptions that I've read a line closer
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Speaker 1: to Dave Gahan's description of fear and darkness. When Nicki
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Speaker 1: six died, he described the incident as being painful. When
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Speaker 1: Phil Enselmo of Pantera when he died, as he claims,
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Speaker 1: his near death experience was a time spent in a
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Speaker 1: black void. And there are others. You get the gist. Fear, pain,
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Speaker 1: a black void. These life after death rock star experiences,
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Speaker 1: at least compared to the experience again of the neurosurgeon,
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Speaker 1: and frankly countless other accounts by non rock stars of
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Speaker 1: NBES these experiences that the rock stars detail, they sound
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Speaker 1: hellish compared to a state of connectedness and love, which
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Speaker 1: sounds heavenly. Maybe that's by design. I'm not saying it is.
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Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions here again, Where do rock stars
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Speaker 1: go when they die? They don't go to heaven where
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Speaker 1: the angels fly. I'm paraphrasing the Met Puppets lyric that
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Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain saying back in the early nineties. The real
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Speaker 1: lyric is where do bad folks go when they die?
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Speaker 1: They don't go to heaven where the angels fly. They
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Speaker 1: go to a lake of fire and Fry see him
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Speaker 1: again on the fourth of July. And you know what,
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Speaker 1: I believe what the me Puppets are saying here. I
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Speaker 1: believe that there is some sort of grand sorting of
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Speaker 1: souls after all of whatever the hell this is, and
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Speaker 1: that what we do here in this life matters. And
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Speaker 1: I've always believed that, even when I didn't know that,
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Speaker 1: I believe that. I still believed that, and I've acted accordingly,
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Speaker 1: which isn't to say that I've always acted with love.
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Speaker 1: I haven't. To paraphrase Fiona Apple, the next rock star
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to write about I've been a bad
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Speaker 1: bad boy, but a lot of us have, All of
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Speaker 1: us have, but nothing compared to how our rock stars
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Speaker 1: have acted. Rock Stars, like the rest of us, are
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Speaker 1: complicated souls. They're capable of good and bad in equal
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Speaker 1: measures sometimes but for whom selfishness and sociopathy and pride.
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Speaker 1: For the rock stars, these are more like job requirements
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Speaker 1: than personality flaws. Not so much quote unquote sins, but
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Speaker 1: rather tools to ply their trade, is what I'm getting at. Okay,
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Speaker 1: all that bad behavior to manifest life experiences here and
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Speaker 1: now that are filled with drama, crime, evil in murder, rape, arson, cannibalism, Those,
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Speaker 1: of course, are the worst of the worst. That's the
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Speaker 1: worst of the behavior from our rock stars. But then
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Speaker 1: there's the garden variety rockstar narcissism and dickishness that leads
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Speaker 1: a trail of emotional chaos, in wreckage that the rock
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Speaker 1: star then unconsciously minds experiences, transgressive dark experiences that they
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Speaker 1: use to create with dark events from their own lives,
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Speaker 1: brought about by their own free will, real pain, pain
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Speaker 1: that they bring upon others, oftentimes no different than us.
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Speaker 1: In some cases, who among us hasn't broken someone's heart right,
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Speaker 1: Who among us hasn't unknowingly slighted someone else, made them
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Speaker 1: feel small, brought pain into the world. We all do it, okay,
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Speaker 1: But the rock star, the rock star, some of them anyway,
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Speaker 1: the real rock star is capable of bringing about a
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Speaker 1: different kind of pain, And like everything in the rock
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Speaker 1: star's life, the pain is bigger and that pain brings
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Speaker 1: big results. Again, it's the well they draw upon to
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Speaker 1: write their songs, to create. And here's the irony. To
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Speaker 1: create is to love. Creation the act of bringing something
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Speaker 1: into the world, something that is going to bring joy
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Speaker 1: to somebody else, like a song or an album or
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Speaker 1: a live music experience. To create those things, it's an
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Speaker 1: act of love. So what I'm saying, I guess is
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Speaker 1: where do rock stars go when they die? Should they
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Speaker 1: go to heaven where the angels fly, where the brain
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Speaker 1: surgeons go? At least I don't know. All I know
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Speaker 1: is Dave Gahan wrote the song Personal Jesus. And when
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Speaker 1: my poor Greek Orthodox mother walked into our living room
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Speaker 1: and found the sixteen year old me watching that video
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Speaker 1: with the imagery of slinky Dave Gahan, shirtless streading around
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Speaker 1: a dusty Mexican Sam peckinpass set with those lyrics, your
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Speaker 1: own personal Jesus, reach out and touch me. She was pissed.
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Speaker 1: It pained her, no doubt, to watch her son, her
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Speaker 1: sixteen year old son, being taken in by what, to
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Speaker 1: her was again, no doubt, some symbol of the anti
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Speaker 1: Christ right there in her living room. Call father Carris,
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Speaker 1: all right, let's exercise this bitch. But does this mean
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Speaker 1: Dave Gahan should go to hell? Does it mean he
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Speaker 1: is going to hell? I have no idea, man, this
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Speaker 1: is not for me, my mother or father Caros to decide.
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Speaker 1: But still to quote Dave Gahan, frightening darkness. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: what he saw, frightening darkness, quite different from what the
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Speaker 1: neurosurgeon saw. Does that mean anything? Again, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: None of us know anything, Like I said, the more
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Speaker 1: I learn, the less I know. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: any of this adds up to. But it is fun
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Speaker 1: to talk about, and it's the exact type of thing
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Speaker 1: that we'd be talking about at the house party after
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Speaker 1: the gig. At the after party. Did Dave Gahan die
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Speaker 1: and go back to life? He thinks, so did Nikki six.
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Speaker 1: Nikki six says a lot of shit, did Marlon Brando
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Speaker 1: have sex with a mailbox? Like Quinn Jones says? Did
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Speaker 1: Billy Corgan really see a shape shifter? Again? These are
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Speaker 1: the hard hitting series questions that we ask here in
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Speaker 1: Disgrace Lands after party and sometimes get the answer, at
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Speaker 1: least try to. You can answer them too, but you
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Speaker 1: got to call me to do that. Six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight, Leave me a
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Speaker 1: voicemail or send me a text. I got a big
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Speaker 1: question coming in next week's episode. How did Foo Fighters
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Speaker 1: drummer Taylor Hawkins die? Taylor did not come back from
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Speaker 1: the dead, unfortunately, he died tragically in a Colombian hotel
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Speaker 1: and we still don't know how. For real, there's still
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Speaker 1: no official cause of death. It's been four years since
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Speaker 1: one of the most famous drummers on the planet died
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Speaker 1: and we still don't have an official cause of death. Nothing,
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Speaker 1: not a zilch. Why not? What's the deal? Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you what I think is going on
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Speaker 1: in that episode next week, and when I'm done, i'd
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Speaker 1: like your opinion on the cause of Taylor Hawkins's death.
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Speaker 1: How did he die? I want to know what you think,
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Speaker 1: so get your calls, texts six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight, get him into me, DM
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Speaker 1: me at Disgrace Lampod on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok x, and
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Speaker 1: email me Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. Coming up Sunday,
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Speaker 1: our rewind episode Okay for this week is our classic
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Speaker 1: episode on Selena. Okay, we do have an official cause
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Speaker 1: of death for Selena, and it was heartbreaking and entirely unnecessary,
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Speaker 1: and this tragedy has become one of the classic true
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Speaker 1: crime stories from music history. You haven't heard. If you
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Speaker 1: have heard it but you haven't heard us tell it,
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Speaker 1: then I invite you to fire up your podcast app
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Speaker 1: this Sunday while you're out by the grill, or you're
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Speaker 1: in your garden, you're making breakfast in the kitchen for
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Speaker 1: your family, whatever you're doing, just pop in your earbuds
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Speaker 1: and spin through Disgraceland in the Tragic Tale of Selena
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Speaker 1: with us. All right next week, like I said, Next Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: our new episode on the Foo Fighters, and coming up
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Speaker 1: next right here in the after party right after this,
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Speaker 1: your voicemails, text, dms and more from last week's Question
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Speaker 1: of the Week. So don't go anywhere all right, Wi
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Speaker 1: Harry said it best from Blondie. I'm in the phone booth.
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Speaker 1: It's the one across the hall. You got me hanging
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Speaker 1: on the telephone six one seven nine oh six sixty
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Speaker 1: six three eight. Let's check out D in the two
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Speaker 1: one four.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, It's D from Dallas, Texas And I just
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Speaker 2: listened to your show, your Disgrace Plan episode on Depeche Mode,
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Speaker 2: and you were asking for suggestions of covers, and you
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Speaker 2: have to check out Tim Dracula's version of Iris by
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Speaker 2: the Goo Goo Dolls. I'm sure you've heard it, because
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Speaker 2: you're such a hold, such a well rounded cultural kind
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Speaker 2: of guy.
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Speaker 3: But if you haven't, you've got to listen to it.
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Speaker 3: So out of the norm, out of character for everything
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Speaker 3: that they usually do. But it's freakin' awesome and the
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Speaker 3: first time I heard it it made me cry.
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Speaker 2: Give it a listen, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, D. I'll see your Kim Dracula Goo Goo Dolls
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Speaker 1: Iris and I will raise you a megadeth anarchy in
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Speaker 1: the UK by the Sex Pistols cover. Check that out.
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Speaker 1: I checked out the Kim Dracula cover of Google Dolls,
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Speaker 1: and I gotta say I liked it better than the
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Speaker 1: Goo Goo Dolls version of Iris, which is fucking everywhere
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Speaker 1: these days. That song, it's everywhere, it's everywhere, and I
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Speaker 1: don't love that song to begin with, but at least
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Speaker 1: this one's more interesting. Thank you D appreciate you D
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Speaker 1: in the two one four, And this is a nice
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Speaker 1: intro to Daniel in the seven oh seven. Let's hear
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Speaker 1: from Daniel.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, this is Daniel from seven oh seven, California,
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Speaker 4: specific Northwest. So my selection for the best cover song
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Speaker 4: is going to be meg Death's version of These Boots,
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Speaker 4: the nineteen sixty six song by Nancy Sinatra, the original
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Speaker 4: one we all know, we all love, we're pretty familiar with,
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Speaker 4: so Megadath, of course we imagined it in a metal fashion,
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Speaker 4: which included spicing up and changing the lyrics a bit
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Speaker 4: in addition to everything else. So this leads to a
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Speaker 4: little bit of a story because the songwriter, Lee Hazelwood,
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Speaker 4: apparently was not having it, and he said no permission,
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Speaker 4: no go. Misstine fought it in court, said hey, if
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Speaker 4: manages it's satire, it's irony, it's comedy. But it wasn't going.
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Speaker 4: So their response was in subsequent releases of the Megadath album.
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Speaker 4: They just bleeped out some of the lyrics, but that
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Speaker 4: was pretty much obnoxious and unlistenable. So the third solution
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Speaker 4: it was to simply release their metal version of the
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Speaker 4: song originally but with Nancy Sinatra slash Lee Hazelwood's actual
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Speaker 4: lyrics of the song. I don't know legally how that
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Speaker 4: all works, but apparently that's settled it, and so now
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Speaker 4: we just have the straightforward metal version of these boots,
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Speaker 4: all right, So we'll wrap it up now. But one
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Speaker 4: last note is that this dovetails with last week's question
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Speaker 4: about memoirs and autobiographies, for which I will say the
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Speaker 4: book Mustaine by Dave Mustain himself is a absolutely great read,
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Speaker 4: So thank you, love you.
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Speaker 1: All, Daniel. I have never heard the Megadesth version of
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Speaker 1: the Nancy Sinatra song, but like I just mentioned, I
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Speaker 1: do or I did at least really dig the MEGADESK
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Speaker 1: cover of the Sex Pistols Anarchy in the UK, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassed to admit that that was the first
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Speaker 1: version of that song that I heard as a young boy,
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Speaker 1: and I quickly though, went to the sex Pistols and
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Speaker 1: that is the classic version. Obviously, it's better than the
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Speaker 1: Guns and Roses. It's better than any any attempt at
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Speaker 1: that song. Nothing compares to the Sex Pistols version. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for you called, Daniel, appreciate you all right, Let's go Sean,
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Speaker 1: Let's bring us to the nine to five.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Frand just regarding the Robin or Hall of Fame
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Speaker 5: do Over or Fresh Dart list, I gotta say I
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Speaker 5: like where your head's at. Don't agree with every pick.
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Speaker 5: I do heavily agree with Jay Gilesbandt however they should
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Speaker 5: be in already. But I for myself, I think I
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Speaker 5: would consider any Hall of Fame illegitimate if it didn't
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Speaker 5: have the Pixies, I mean influence. It's no secret that
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Speaker 5: two of the Pixies' biggest fans are kirkle Baited David Alburn.
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Speaker 5: They talk about them all the time. Were used to counterculture,
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Speaker 5: I mean arguably their two biggest mainstream moments came in
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Speaker 5: the form of movie soundtracks, both which were entirely about
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Speaker 5: counterculture and pub Up the Volume and Fight Club. So yeah,
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Speaker 5: any hall that I would want to be a part
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Speaker 5: of definitely has to include the Pixies. Pixies, Pixies, Pixies
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Speaker 5: right on, great content, piece.
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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I don't know how many messages and voicemails
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Speaker 1: we got about the Pixies and Jay Giles band. I
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Speaker 1: mentioned Jay Ales Band last week that they should be
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Speaker 1: part of our Disgrace and rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 1: and they are. I think we just inducted them, and
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Speaker 1: I think they're being from Boston prompted the Pixies' responses
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Speaker 1: as well, which I absolutely agree with. The Pixie should
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Speaker 1: be in the real rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: full stop. And you bring up a really good point,
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Speaker 1: like we know about the Nirvana influence, we sometimes I
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Speaker 1: sometimes forget about the Blur influence which you mentioned. You
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Speaker 1: mentioned both of those nine oh five, but also the
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Speaker 1: cultural argument because of the movie soundtrack piece is huge
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Speaker 1: as well, and it goes to show just how influential
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Speaker 1: and important that band is. And I don't know if
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Speaker 1: have they ever been nominated. That's something I'm going to
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Speaker 1: find out they should be maybe maybe I don't know
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Speaker 1: if this happens if you get nominated for the Rock
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Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame and if you're like Susan
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Speaker 1: Lucci and you just miss it for you know, five
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Speaker 1: years in a row or whatever. They just stop nominating you.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that happened to the Pixies or not.
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Speaker 1: If it did, it's a damn shame. I'll look into
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Speaker 1: it for you. I have a report back next week
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Speaker 1: nine oh five. And everyone else who recommended the Pixies
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Speaker 1: seven one four, seven one four Sean go to the
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake is junior seven to one four. Cover songs,
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Speaker 5: So many great ones out there, but.
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Speaker 4: One of my favorite Mojo Nixon's cover of the Smith
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Speaker 4: Girlfriend in a COMA freaking fun cover.
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Speaker 6: I you haven't heard it.
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Speaker 5: I hope you enjoy it.
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Speaker 6: Alrip Mojo Nixon, and you're doing a great job.
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Speaker 2: Jay.
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Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: Brother.
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Speaker 5: I'll talk to you later. Bye.
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Speaker 1: Mojo Nixon, Girlfriend Na Cooma by the Smiths. No, I
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Speaker 1: have never heard that, but I'm interested, man, I am interested.
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Speaker 1: We've been having a lot of fun with the smith lately.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: In our video podcast, this film should be played loud.
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Speaker 1: We have a category that we get to now every
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Speaker 1: in every episode, which quote from this movie should be
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Speaker 1: a Smith song title? And we we pulled a couple
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Speaker 1: of great ones out of high fidelity, which you will
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Speaker 6: Fellow dis goes, I'm down low in the nine tow
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Speaker 6: to oh. I drive all day fixing vending machines, and
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Speaker 6: while I'm doing that, I love to listen to the
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Speaker 6: Spraceland and hollywood Land, and Jake brought up unlikely remix. Okay,
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Speaker 6: the og only cash We've heard fair enough. Here's one
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Speaker 6: that's not necessarily unlikely. But the first time I heard
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Speaker 6: war Pigs was Faith No More's War Pigs. And then
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Speaker 6: when I heard your original Black Sabbath, I like Faith
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Speaker 6: No More is better. And it comes down to production
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Speaker 6: artisan skill. But you know what, sometimes the first time
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Speaker 6: you hear specific song at the time, you like it
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Speaker 6: to bed no shades at the Sabbath. All I gotta
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Speaker 6: say is rock and Roll of Fizza signing off evermore, Yo, I.
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Speaker 1: Hear you I hear you, but I think the free
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Speaker 1: on or whatever it is they got coursing through the
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Speaker 1: vending machines might be might be influencing you. There's no
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Speaker 1: free on inventing machines. I know that, But I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to make a point that Faith and War's version of
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Speaker 1: Warpigs is not gooder than Black Sabbath. But that's your opinion, man.
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Speaker 1: That's just like your opinion, man, and your You are
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Speaker 1: entitled to that, and I get it. I totally get it.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes your point is completely valid. Sometimes the first version
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Speaker 1: of the song that you hear is the best version
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Speaker 1: of it, okay, like little Latin Loop de Lou, you know,
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Speaker 1: for Barry and High Fidelity, it's the Righteus Brothers Righteous
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Speaker 1: Brothers version, or is it the Issi Brothers. I can't remember,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is. It's not Mitch Ryder and the fucking
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Speaker 1: Detroit Wheels, as as Dick was well told anyhow, on
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Speaker 1: Faith no more in their cover songs easy like Sunday Morning,
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Speaker 1: fantastic like Warpigs. We had this ongoing argument my best friend,
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Speaker 1: one of my best friends grown up Dutch and I
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Speaker 1: when we were kids, on how a song should be
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Speaker 1: covered and he believed that the faith No More approach
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Speaker 1: was the writer approach, like he tried to treat it
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Speaker 1: like a recreation of the original, which I just believe
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Speaker 1: is completely false still to this day and Dutch Now,
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Speaker 1: I talk to a microphone for a living, so I
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Speaker 1: think I think I can better make my point. I
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Speaker 1: think the way to do it is to at least
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Speaker 1: the covers that I respond to the most strongly are
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Speaker 1: the ones that are interpretations of the original, where the
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Speaker 1: person covering the song interprets it and brings their own
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Speaker 1: musical point of view and style to what we're hearing. That's,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's what I love. Like it goes back.
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Speaker 1: It's the classic version of like you know, lots of
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Speaker 1: people in the early days of pop music would record
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Speaker 1: the same songs, lots of people would record Cold Porter songs,
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Speaker 1: but you'd want the Ella Fitzgerald version of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Porter songbook because you just love the way that she
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Speaker 1: made the songs her own, versus I don't know another
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Speaker 1: jazz singer. Okay, even if that jazz singer was good,
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Speaker 1: you might prefer one's interpretation over the other. And they
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Speaker 1: weren't always just sort of recreations anyhow, that's my take
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Speaker 1: on it. But what do I know? Appreciate you nine
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Speaker 1: two oh check out you've probably heard it, but Charles
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Speaker 1: Bradley's version of changes Black Savage changes another great cover
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Speaker 1: and an unlikely one at that. All right, let's use
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Speaker 1: some text six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: three eight Caara in the seven o three, Hey, Jake,
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Speaker 1: this is Kara. Unlikely cover I heard recently is Radiohead
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Speaker 1: Creep covered by Tears for Fears. I need to hear this.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the nice words about our content, Tookara,
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Speaker 1: appreciate you, Ali in the five to four to ho Jake.
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Speaker 1: As cliche as it is. Other than the Boss Bruce Springsteen,
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Speaker 1: I have to say Taylor Swift is the most influential
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Speaker 1: musician that I have come across. I discovered her when
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Speaker 1: I was ten and she had just released the Fearless album.
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Speaker 1: And growing up, she's been the soundtrack in my life,
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Speaker 1: from narrating breakups I've been through to dealing with a
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Speaker 1: family member with a terminal illness. Her range of topics
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Speaker 1: is just aligned so perfectly with my life. She's put
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Speaker 1: things in words so beautifully that I wouldn't even have
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Speaker 1: imagined I love the show. Keep up the great work. PS.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the T shirt and the poster. Ali, I
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Speaker 1: hear you, and it's interesting to hear the perspective of
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Speaker 1: somebody who got into Taylor Swift as a ten year
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Speaker 1: old and I'm assuming is now an adult and hearing
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Speaker 1: how her songs have tracked and stayed with you through
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Speaker 1: the sort of narrative of your life. That's pretty fascinating
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Speaker 1: and that's a very powerful skill for a pop artist
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Speaker 1: to have. I wonder how much of it is intentional
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Speaker 1: and how much of it is organic. I would bet
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Speaker 1: that it is a healthy mix of the two, with
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Speaker 1: most of it being organic. Anyways, five to four h
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Speaker 1: I'm happy that you have such a close connection to
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Speaker 1: an artist and have for some time. Sounds fantastic. Maybe
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Speaker 1: we all be so lucky, and I think most of
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Speaker 1: us are now. Is Lisa in the nine oh seven lucky?
29:53
Speaker 1: Let's see what Lisa's got to say here? Another deep
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Speaker 1: cut on the cover subject. Here another deep cut from
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Speaker 1: the late nineties, check out Edwin McCain's cover of James
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Speaker 1: Taylor's I've Got to Stop Thinking about That. It's on
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Speaker 1: the Misguided Roses album, But I saw him perform it
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Speaker 1: in person and it was fantastic. I'll stop now. Lisa
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Speaker 1: from the nine oh seven, Lisa, thank you. You don't have
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Speaker 1: to stop. This is fantastic. I've never heard of this.
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Speaker 1: You know the song the original by James Taylor, and
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Speaker 1: I don't really know that much Edwin McCain, so I'm
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Speaker 1: kind of stoked to get into this. Thank you, Lisa.
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Speaker 1: Tanya in the six four to six where I said, Hey, Jake,
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Speaker 1: my number one not in the Rock and Roll Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame but should be is Captain Beefheart aka Don
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Speaker 1: Van Vleigh. I'm with you on Jeff Buckley too, and
30:42
Speaker 1: Jeff Buckley is only two degrees of separation from Beefhart.
30:46
Speaker 1: Guitarist slash songwriter Gary Lucas was in at least two
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Speaker 1: iterations of The Magic Band That's beef Heart's band, and
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Speaker 1: later on, Jeff Buckley was in Gary Lucas's band Gods
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Speaker 1: and Monts before going solo and Gary Gary Lucas wrote
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Speaker 1: the music for the songs Grace and Mojo Pin on
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Speaker 1: Jeff's debut album and plays on those tracks. Cheers from
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Speaker 1: Tanya w in New York City. Full disclosure, I'm friends
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Speaker 1: with Gary and maintain his website. But I swear this
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Speaker 1: is all true. Tanya. We believe you, We believe you.
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Speaker 1: I feel like Beefheart's going to get in on one
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Speaker 1: of those the way they put Graham Parsons in what
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Speaker 1: do they call that historical consideration or whatever the hell
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Speaker 1: it is, And I think Jeff Buckley will get in eventually.
31:35
Speaker 1: By the way, anyone see that video recently, the first
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Speaker 1: time I've seen it, Juliana Hatfield playing I think it's
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Speaker 1: at Axis on Newbury Street in Boston in the nineties,
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Speaker 1: and it's the end of her set and she's about
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Speaker 1: to go into her encore or something, and Jeff Buckley
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Speaker 1: just comes flying from side stage and stage dives into
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Speaker 1: the drum set, ending her set. It's magnificent, pretty amazing.
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Speaker 1: Jeff was a wild dude, despite what he sounded like. Tanya,
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Speaker 1: appreciate the text. You know what I'm seeing here. There's
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Speaker 1: a pattern here with the voicemails and text I think
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Speaker 1: every voicemail received except one was from dudes, and all
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Speaker 1: the texts are from women. What is up with that?
32:18
Speaker 1: We need more variety? Come on, switch it up, guys
32:21
Speaker 1: for next week? Where am I now? I lost my space.
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Speaker 1: We want to go to Flow in the three one
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Speaker 1: seven Flow? Where are you at? Flow? Says Yo, It's
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Speaker 1: Flow from the three one seven. I'm digging the recommendation
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Speaker 1: section Resuscitation. I pulled the trigger on one of Jake's
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Speaker 1: book recommendations this week, as he described the book as
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Speaker 1: hard to find when I found it. To my surprise,
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Speaker 1: I found it on Amazon for seven bucks. The book
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Speaker 1: in question is You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again.
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at an airport bar in Indianapolis digging through
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Speaker 1: this stellar account of some wild and heinous stories of
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Speaker 1: some of rock's most vibrant cares. One foot in the
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Speaker 1: gutter and one foot on solid ground always makes for
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Speaker 1: a fan fucking tastic read. I got one recommendation for
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Speaker 1: the crew at Double Elvis to quell the Oasis is
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Speaker 1: just an okay band argument. Dig out your soul. If
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Speaker 1: you don't love this record, then you never liked Rock Rome.
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Speaker 1: But okay. Much love to all you guys, thanks for
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Speaker 1: all your entertaining storytelling. Much love Rock. A roll up Flow,
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Speaker 1: and Flow sends in a picture of looks like she's
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Speaker 1: working on a pint of something dark. What does that
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Speaker 1: look like? Maybe it's guinness, maybe maybe something a little lighter,
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Speaker 1: maybe harp And also it looks like you get a
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Speaker 1: little neat poor of bourbon. There as a little sidecar,
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Speaker 1: and in the middle she has a copy of what
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Speaker 1: I'm astounded to see is a hard copy version on
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Speaker 1: the bar between her drinks of You'll Never Make Love
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Speaker 1: in This Town Again, that she got for seven bucks
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. I think I paid like four hundred dollars
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Speaker 1: for this book or insane like that. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how you got this, but congrats. Of course, I bought
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Speaker 1: mine about five years ago. Sometimes that matters. Maybe a
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Speaker 1: bunch more were released into the wild. I don't know
34:15
Speaker 1: I bought. I found yesterday. I found a copy of
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Speaker 1: the Madonna Playboy, which I have long coveted, not because
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Speaker 1: of any perverted Madonna reasons, but just because my wife
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Speaker 1: and I collect old Playboys. And this is a hard one,
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Speaker 1: it's one of the last stapled copies editions, I should say,
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Speaker 1: of Playboy. Now. I found it for forty bucks, and
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Speaker 1: typically it's about three hundred dollars to find a copy
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Speaker 1: on the internet, So I don't know what the hell
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Speaker 1: I'm getting into. I don't know what's going to show
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Speaker 1: up in my doorstep, and I'm probably gonna have to
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Speaker 1: wear like a hazmat suit to open this thing and
34:57
Speaker 1: handle it. But we shall see, we shall see. I'm
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Speaker 1: off on a tangent here. Let's check in here with
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Speaker 1: what do we know? We just talked to Flow in
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Speaker 1: the three one seven. Let's let's go to the three
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Speaker 1: oh four. Okay, Luke, who I presume is a dude
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Speaker 1: your area code is the three oh four. I know this.
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Speaker 1: How I know it well, I can't tell you, but
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Speaker 1: I know it to be a fact. Anyways, Luke Wright said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: Concrete Blondes cover of Leonard Cohen's song Everybody Knows is
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Speaker 1: an interesting version. It's on the excellent soundtrack from Christian
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Speaker 1: Slater's movie Pump Up the Volume. Yes, great cover, unlikely cover,
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Speaker 1: great original, great movie. I can't quibble with any of this, Luke,
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Speaker 1: except for your area code the three oh four. Now
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Speaker 1: Jules in the four two five, Hey, Jake, Jules in
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Speaker 1: Beastie Boys. Awesome job and a fan since the start,
35:56
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35:58
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35:59
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Speaker 1: really who's gonna tell the beast Boys story better than
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Speaker 1: Okay, but we did find some choice nugs, as they
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Speaker 1: and tells the facts in all of your pods. Please
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Speaker 1: keep it going, and again, thank you, rock A Rolla, Tara,
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Speaker 1: Tara Huge. I don't know what to say. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I responded to you personally, but I'll say it again here.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's an incredible note and very
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Speaker 1: generous of you to say you didn't have to go
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Speaker 1: out of your way to make us feel validated. Here.
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm happy that we did the Waylan Jennings
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Speaker 1: story justice, that we did the Jennings family justice, and
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Speaker 1: all props to Zeth Lundy who researched and wrote that
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Speaker 1: episode that we produced for you. Happy you dug it.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's play new song, old song, real quick,
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Speaker 1: new song White Denham Now listen. Not a new band,
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Speaker 1: per se, but a new song by them Ruby. I
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Speaker 1: love this song. It is fucking great. If you dig
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Speaker 1: that Rod Stewart faces vibe, you need something to get
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Speaker 1: stoked about the sun and the burghers on the grill
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Speaker 1: in the backyard, then this is your jam. Okay, Ruby
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Speaker 1: by White Denham Now old song. I'm looking up at
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Speaker 1: my wall in the studio here and I've got a
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Speaker 1: Rick Dalton poster. Rick Dalton character from Once upon a
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Speaker 1: Time in Hollywood, and Once upon a Time in Hollywood
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Speaker 1: has reminded me of Paul Revere in The Raiders. Mark Lindsay.
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Speaker 1: They take a lot of shit in that movie, okay,
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Speaker 1: but Tarantino is celebrating them. Now listen. I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to recommend Paul Revere and the Raiders, because you can
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Speaker 1: just go to the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
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Speaker 1: soundtrack and you can find a couple great Paul Revere
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Speaker 1: and the Raiders songs. But Paul Revere and the Raiders
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Speaker 1: remind me of another another band that I do want
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Speaker 1: to recommend. They remind me of a band from Boston
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Speaker 1: from back in the sixties called The Remains, or as
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Speaker 1: I refer to them, Barry and the Remains. Now listen,
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Speaker 1: I want you to go to their nineteen sixty six
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Speaker 1: self titled debut album and it's all great, but the
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Speaker 1: first song you want to play is Don't Look Back.
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Speaker 1: This song is tremendous. There's a reason that Boston's The
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Speaker 1: Remains were the only band open for the Beatles on
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Speaker 1: their tour here in America because they were great. Okay, now,
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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about Boston bands that deserve to
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Speaker 1: be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, Pixie's Jake Giles band The Remains deserve to
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Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame as well. Graham Parsons
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Speaker 1: just went in and Barry Tashian, a singer and front
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Speaker 1: man for The Remains. After The Remains broke up in
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Speaker 1: the sixties, Barry went on to work with Graham Parson
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Speaker 1: and was instrumental in working out the harmonies on Graham's
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Speaker 1: excellent album GP with Emmy Lou Harris Graham excuse me,
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Speaker 1: Barry is as far as I know, he's still around
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Speaker 1: and he's a great guy. I've had a privilege of
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Speaker 1: meeting him a couple of times he signed my book
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Speaker 1: that he wrote on his time about his time on
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Speaker 1: tour with the Beatles, But none of that is why
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Speaker 1: I'm recommending the song Don't Look Back is incredible and
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Speaker 1: this whole album, the self titled Remains Album, is great.
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Speaker 1: To check that out, all right. So that there recommendations,
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Speaker 1: that's just a taste. You want more. We got more
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Speaker 1: recommendations in the Hollywood Land feed with Zeth and I
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Speaker 1: in the Rap Party this week, we're talking about great
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Speaker 1: songs with the names of actors or actresses in the
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Speaker 1: song title Sean Once you grab a little clip of
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Speaker 1: that conversation and give the people here a taste of
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Speaker 1: what we got going on over in Hollywood Land. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with an obscure one because it's super
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Speaker 1: personal to me, and it's Grace Kelly with Wings by Piebald,
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Speaker 1: which is a great Boston great pick. People call them
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Speaker 1: an emo band. They're a rock band, but they're part
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Speaker 1: of the whole emo scene and part of the scene
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Speaker 1: that I came up in. And the song is about
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Speaker 1: I believe I could be wrong. It's about a girl,
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Speaker 1: main Valerie, who we all knew and hung out with
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Speaker 1: and Travis from Piebald was romantically involved with her, and
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Speaker 1: this is the song that's about her. But it's just
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Speaker 1: a great song. It is so, so, so great, and
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Speaker 1: it's just about being arrested by the beauty and grace
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Speaker 1: of you know, you just see those women in your
44:49
Speaker 1: life where you're just like, oh my God, like come
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Speaker 1: on man, stop. Yeah, and it's I think it's their
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Speaker 1: best song. And they have a lot of great songs
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Speaker 1: and they're still playing. Piebald is still playing. They've been around.
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Speaker 1: So Grace Kelly with Wings. It's on the excellently named album.
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Speaker 1: If it weren't for the Venetian Blinds, it would be
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Speaker 1: Curtains for us all, which if anybody wants to taste
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Speaker 1: of what like mid to late nineties Boston upstairs at
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Speaker 1: the Middle East was like, yeah, that record, will give
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Speaker 1: it to you. It's great. So Grace Kelly with Wings,
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Speaker 1: that's my first one. A bright guys, that is Hollywood Land.
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45:42
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45:46
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Speaker 1: Screening Room. In this week, Zeth is preparing us all
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Speaker 1: for Drew Barrymore Week that's coming out next week. And
45:59
Speaker 1: I bet my talking about Drew Barrymore stories. Those are
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Speaker 1: for me and my priest. Okay, I was going to
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Speaker 1: maybe you want maybe there'll be a Disgraceland event someday
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46:26
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46:28
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Speaker 1: video podcast. This film should be played loud this month.
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Speaker 1: We taped it last night. It's our conversation on high
46:59
Speaker 1: fidelity and all the great music in that film just
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Speaker 1: unbelievably cool. What an A plus movie, by the way,
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Speaker 1: just a plus. I put it up there with the
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Speaker 1: best of the best. And it's not just because of
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Speaker 1: the music. That story does not stop. It is non stop.
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Speaker 1: You're just locked in. There's constantly something happening that is
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47:22
Speaker 1: that's just I mean, it sounds basic, but that's the
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Speaker 1: after this. All right, guys, we are back let's recap,
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Speaker 1: shall we. My goodness, we talked about a lot different artists,
47:57
Speaker 1: and in this episode I didn't even mention it's Apop's
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Speaker 1: birthday today when I'm recording this, So Happy Birthday. A
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Speaker 1: pop Iggy Pop episode. Great episode from the archive. You
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Speaker 1: want to check that out that's in there. Talked about
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Speaker 1: Nikki six. We have a Nicky six episode. We also
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Speaker 1: got a Motley Crue episode. Two episodes, I guess you
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Speaker 1: could put it that way on Motley Crue. Those are
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Speaker 1: in the archive as well. Fiona Apple and mentioned her,
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Speaker 1: but we don't have an episode on her yet. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to start researching that next week. Billy Corgan. Should
48:22
Speaker 1: I do a Billy Corgan episode, a Smashing Pumpkins episode,
48:25
Speaker 1: something about the shape shifter. There's a lot of drugs there.
48:28
Speaker 1: With Jimmy Chamberlain and all that. I'm sure I can
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Speaker 1: find a way another Smashing Pumpkins story mentioned Blondie, Black Sabbath.
48:34
Speaker 1: Get an episode on Blondie. Get an episode on Black Sabbath.
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Speaker 1: You know all this anyways, the archive, that's where it's at.
48:39
Speaker 1: I get to get out of here. So let's recap
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Speaker 1: number one this week. Depeche mode available on your feed
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Speaker 1: slot this weekend on Sunday. Number three. Next week's episode,
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Speaker 1: our brand new episode on the Foo Fighters is going
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Speaker 1: to have you asking the question how did Taylor Hawkins die?
48:54
Speaker 1: Hopefully we're getting some answers. Number four is that that
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Speaker 1: is going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes
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Speaker 1: You're also going to get my music recommendations over there
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Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Land Rap Party. Number five. This film
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Speaker 1: Number six six one seven nine oh six six sixty
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Speaker 1: isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed.
49:32
Speaker 1: No one cares about music. No one cares about books.
49:34
Speaker 1: No one cares about records and the crime and crime
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Speaker 1: it ties them all together like you do. And well
49:38
Speaker 1: that's a disgrace, all right. Sometime in May of nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety six, Dave Gahana Depeche Mode overdosed on a speedball
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Speaker 1: at the Sunset Marquis Hotel in Hollywood. And here's what
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Speaker 1: America was listening to on that day, according to the
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Speaker 1: Billboard Charts. Number one The Crossroads Bone Thugs in Harmony
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Speaker 1: last week one, peak position one weeks on Chart three,
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Speaker 1: number two. Always Be My Baby Mariah Carey last week
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Speaker 1: to peak position one weeks on chart eight, number three.
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Speaker 1: Because you love Me, I'm up close and personal. Listen
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Speaker 1: to me Dion last week three peak position one weeks
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Speaker 1: on Chart twelve, number four. Nobody Knows The Tony.
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Speaker 7: Rich Project last week five reposition two weeks on Chart
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Speaker 7: twenty four number five, last week four peak positions four
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Speaker 1: Tracy Chapman last week show peak position six weeks on
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Speaker 1: Chart eight, number seven. You're the One ever Done last
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Speaker 1: week position Quit talking and start mixing.
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