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- 0:06SPEAKER_02: Okay, welcome back to Yankees Pod.
- 0:08SPEAKER_02: The Yankees are down 2-0 to the Rays, and joining me is someone who knows what it takes to win in October 2009 World Series champion.
- 0:18SPEAKER_02: Four times he's come on this year.
- 0:20SPEAKER_02: Jabber Chamberlain, Jabba, appreciate you coming on.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: What's going through your mind watching this team right now?
- 0:30SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's one thing going through my mind.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: I think it's just a lot.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: Obviously, not what we expected with the way we reacted it, especially last game.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: I mean, game one is is kind of one of those games.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Rasmussen's throwing the ball well.
- 0:47SPEAKER_01: I mean, Gare gives up, you know, a change up for a homer and we lose one-nothing.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: I mean, we you have one hit in 12 innings.
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: That's really not gonna not gonna do a lot.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: But you know, yesterday was just it was it was weird.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: And I I think from from the get-go, the errors starting off and then three errors and four batters, I think was just kind of reminiscent.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: You know, you go back and you look at it, and you know, Cam battled.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: You know, he only you know gives up one when he could have just you know got frustrated, gave in, and and didn't give the chance to win.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: Obviously, tied up in the fourth with Ben hitting the homer, but yeah, it just it was very just kind of underwhelming in the first round.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: You didn't know how to react, but also you didn't want to overreact because it was still one to nothing.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: But our bats haven't shown you know to do anything after coming, you know, from the Boston series.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I just the way you know it kind of unfolded from from pitch one till till the end of the game was just one of those things where you you just kind of shake your head because you really I don't know if you have the answer, if if there's if there is an answer, to be honest with you.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: Um it was just it was one where you were trying to figure out what was going on, if it was I don't know, it's obviously not a lack of preparation, you know what you're gonna get from that team, and you know, but you got to tip your cap to to the rays, too, because you know they put the ball in play and they made you they made you make a play, and that's what they've done all year.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: And you know, everybody's like, well, they don't have huge names, they don't have this, but they win baseball games, they did win the division.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: Like, we're not talking about a bunch of dudes that aren't in the big leagues for a reason.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: They put the ball in play, they make you make the plays, they put pressure on, they force the issue, they have good baseball players, and you know, they're here for a reason.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: So, you know, people saying that the Yankees beat, did did they beat themselves, but also too in the other turn, the race took advantage of them.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: They're hitting 200 as a team.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Let's not let's not think that they're blasting balls all over the place, right?
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: They're hitting two, like 206 as a team.
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: But what have they done every time?
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: They've taken advantage of mistakes, and that's what teams do at this point.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: And you know, as frustrating is as a Yankees fan, but on the other side, as a baseball fan, you got to tip your cap sometimes when they may not be on paper the best team, but do we play this game on paper?
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: No, we're hitting less than 100 as a team, they're hitting 200.
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: This isn't an offensive demolition of the baseball here.
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: This this is pitching, and it's good baseball on one side, and it's been bad baseball on the other side, and that's the reason the Yankees are down two games enough.
- 3:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love how passionate you are.
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: Um, and like you're a diehard Yankees fan.
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: Like, the way we see you tweet, it's just fun.
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: It's fun to watch how locked in and dialed in you are.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: Yankees, not named Ben Rice right now, are three, four, fifty, two in the first two games, and it's not really a recipe for success.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: But I gotta ask you a question.
- 3:57SPEAKER_02: We have to go back to the first inning when your team is imploding in the field and you're on the mound.
- 4:06SPEAKER_02: Do you try to be like, hey, like, are you going like, are you changing anything?
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: Are you like, hey, like, we're gonna like I need to strike these guys out because we are imploding, or do you just stick to your routine and trust your guys?
- 4:20SPEAKER_02: Because it felt a little bit like like, I don't know, the first couple plays, I was like, oh my god, we're gonna be down seven-nothing.
- 4:28SPEAKER_02: So um, what do you do there?
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: Do you try to go for the K's or you just trust your defense as much as you can?
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: It's it's kind of a double-edged sword because you you obviously want to pick up your teammates, but then you also don't want to try and do too much and get, like you said, get out of your what your rhythm is, what your game plan is for these guys.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: So it's really, and I said last night on X Twitter, whatever you want to call it, you kind of you just got to control what you control.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: You know, that's obviously keeping your team in the game, giving them chances to obviously make plays and do that.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: So it's like I said, you you want to pick them up, and sometimes you end up pressing, and that hurts you worse than actually just going with your game plan and and making sure that you execute which you can execute, you can execute 60 feet six inches.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: That's it.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: What happens with the seven guys behind you and the one in front of you, you can't control that.
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: And so that that's where it becomes the hardest game, is right in between these things, our ears.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: And it's like, hey, do you slow it down?
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: And that's exactly what Cam did.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: Like, he could, like you said, we could have been down six runs, and we only had four airs on the game, but realistically, we could have had six or seven if if some weren't saved and some were changed and what have you.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: But he did what he could do and control the game and gave a chance to win, got back into it.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: And I thought coming back after we scored, having that nine-pitch inning, and I thought that was the biggest one, and then it's just you know, everybody looks at pitches and looks at at what they are like, oh, he didn't throw that many pitches.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Well, don't look at the number of pitches that he actually look at the stress in the pitches that they were, because it's not the number of pitches, it's the stress that from pitch one, they're all stressful.
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: But now when accumulation of errors and it just keeps adding on, then the pressure be and then they're stressful.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: There's runners on base, you know.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: We one one, one, two, three inning.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: Where it's not the number of pitches, the amount of stress that goes into those pitches when pitching is hard enough as it is, but now trying to to make sure you keep your game plan under control without trying to do too much.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: It it's tough because you know, you want to you want to yell and you want to scream, but at that point you got to look up and be like, hey, it's one to nothing, it's not six nothing.
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't need to put my foot where the sun don't shine.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: Let's let's let's calm it down, let's take a deep breath.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Hey, the game is still reachable, we can still get there.
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: And you know, obviously that that didn't happen, but there was a chance, you know, through five, there that it was a game and it wasn't out of reach.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: And you know, I I feel like when you know runs come in bunches, then it becomes a little bit different of a feeling than one-nothing.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: You still, you know, you're still hesitant and and still puckered a little bit, but you feel like you're still in the game.
- 7:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was really tough.
- 7:24SPEAKER_02: Like game one, I felt like okay, sometimes you just have a hoss on the mound and you lose a baseball game.
- 7:32SPEAKER_02: That game yesterday should, it means it should still be going on.
- 7:36SPEAKER_02: It should be two to two right now.
- 7:38SPEAKER_02: Like the Yankees, I mean, three errors in the first inning.
- 7:42SPEAKER_02: That's the most, and and believe it or not, that's the most errors in an inning in a postseason game by the New York Yankees.
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: Just really, really ugly baseball.
- 7:51SPEAKER_02: What are your thoughts on Jazz?
- 7:53SPEAKER_02: Like, so Jazz, I mean, listen, he he he played like first thing actually I want to talk about with Jazz is the Yankees are supposed to be infield in, and it looked like you kind of was on the dirt.
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: Like, like, shouldn't have he been in more?
- 8:10SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know, like I saw you tweet it out, but like, what are your thoughts on that situation?
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've I've looked back at it a couple times this morning too.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: Um, as I tweeted it, actually, they they ended up talking about it on the broadcast, but as I saw, and it was weird because I said dirt, and then I was like, they're playing on turf.
- 8:28SPEAKER_01: What an idiot.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: Why didn't I say the dirt turf or whatever?
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: There was no, like, I was just like, that's everybody will know what I'm talking about.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: Everybody knows what you're talking about.
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I was just like, but no, like if you go back and look at it, obviously they come in, and I understand like pre-princh routine and and getting your feet moving and all that stuff, but and I could be completely wrong in this, just obviously observe it because I don't get a I don't have eyes in the back of my head when I'm pitching, so I don't see guys pre-routine and stuff like that.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: But it looked like when they came in, you saw where everybody was at on the grass, and then where the dirt would have been.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: It even looked like he took a couple step backs.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: I understand, like maybe that's part of his routine of like, okay, step back to come in to make sure that laterally your feet are moving and they're not stuck in concrete, right?
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: So, but it just it looked like where everybody else was at, if he comes and gets that, he he definitely has a better shot than being, I guess, probably three to five feet back from where the grass cutout was.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: Um, and I don't know if that's uh if that's a set infield that they have.
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we're not in the clubhouse and we don't get to see their cards of when they bring the infield in and and who's at the plate and where you play and and vice versa.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: But it just looked in especially in that situation, you're gonna try and cut it as much as you can.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: Obviously, being on turf, you're gonna get different hops and different bounces, but it just didn't look like he was as up as everybody else was.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it did, it did it, it did it, and then you know, he he almost throws the ball away, and then he throws the ball away, and like then they're asking him after a game, and like, listen, I don't really want to get too much into the the the the chatter when you're talking to the media, but they asked him like, hey, would you have done anything differently?
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: And he kind of just said, like, no, honestly, I would have done the same thing, and it's like, bro, like, what are we talking about?
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I it's I think sometimes he he digs himself a worse hole.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: Obviously, he's a good player, we've seen it, and obviously, I I see the frustrations of the fans, and and understandably so.
- 10:43SPEAKER_01: Um, is there probably ways he could reword that?
- 10:47SPEAKER_01: Probably, but also too, like jazz has been around long enough and obviously understands the media market of which New York is.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: Um, and and there's there's certain certain ways to answer questions that you know obviously don't get thrown back in your face where you're still gonna make that, like, and where I just I look at it is okay, well, you you do a lot of things in preparation to the game.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Like you you've turned double plays before, you've gotten you know leadouts, but then there's little things like know who your runner is, you know, know who your runner is.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna be able to turn two?
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: Like, you're throwing it from your back, anyways.
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: Like, but even a bang bang play with him fielding it cleanly and making, I think it's still gonna be close, and that's just knowing your runner and knowing the situation.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: And so when it continues to snowball, and then you answer the question with like, I would do the same thing, you can say that in different words where it doesn't look like I didn't care that I made an error, I was being aggressive.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, you know what?
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: It's literally, you know, that situation, you're trying to make a great play.
- 11:54SPEAKER_01: I just, you know, I need to understand the runner better, or you know, feel the situation out, just take the lead out, and still you have the double play intact for the next hitter and and the lead out.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: So there's ways to answer it.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: I think just being blunt and straight to the point, um, it it wasn't a good look.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: Is is Jazz gonna back off from that comment?
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: No, he won't.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: We we've seen him make comments and he stands on his ground.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: And to what it is, some people may not like it, but that's who he is, and he's gonna tell you how it is.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: Um, some people like it, some people don't.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: I just think, especially in this situation of the magnitude of the game, first and foremost, um, and the decision that we can all see.
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: Like, we we watched it, we weren't there, obviously, physically making the play and what was going through his head, but I think if he had to do it over, he he's not making that throw.
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: I it just it's he's made enough plays in the big leagues and freaking little league.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Like, we've all tried to make that play.
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: Do we make it?
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: Not really, not that often.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: So, you know, maybe an MLB the show, but other than that, there's so many times you don't make it, but it's it's who he is, and and he owns it.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: And you know, some people like it, some people don't.
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: No, it's fair.
- 13:07SPEAKER_02: I it's just it's funny because like Austin Wells has that huge mistake rounding, going to third base uh with two outs, and then he kind of says the same thing too, and it's just like I don't know, like I don't know, like I don't want to say like you were afraid of Joe Tory when you were playing baseball, like, but I feel like they're I there I feel like they're neat, there's like a lack of accountability or just something going on with the discipline of this team.
- 13:39SPEAKER_02: And I know that Aaron Boone, and Aaron Boone, listen, he's done a good job this year.
- 13:43SPEAKER_02: The Yankees had 93 wins, but it just seems like, and it maybe the pressure in New York is too big for some of these guys, but the discipline, and like like I know from 11 years old, you never make the first or third out at third base, and we just see it in like the the most dramatic moments, and you know, Cole not covering first base a couple years back, and like the hours, and like I don't know, like what what is this on Aaron Boone at all?
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: Like, at one point, I mean, it's the he's the longest tenured Yankee uh manager ever without winning a World Series.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: Do you put a little bit of blame on Aaron Boone, or do you just say, like, listen, the players play the game?
- 14:31SPEAKER_02: It just seems like there's there's like a little bit of a lack of accountability, and that's just from me a hundred miles away.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think it's a little bit of everything, but really at the end of the day, it comes on the player.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: Like, what can Booney say really that's going to change?
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: Austin Wells knows that that's just one of the unwritten rules in baseball.
- 14:56SPEAKER_01: Understand you know what he said, like trying to make you know a play and the outfield's fast and they got athletes, and understand, but really now you've got a runner in scoring position, you've been no hit.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: Okay, now okay, all three guys in the outfield have great arms, um, other than Chandler's probably the least greatest, but you literally like I don't know the accountability of you just saying I effed up or hey, I can't make that, I can't do that in that situation.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: Um, but I don't think as a manager, like, what do you want what do you want him to say?
- 15:32SPEAKER_01: He wasn't the one running the bases, like, you know, and it it's just it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't, because if he says one thing, then you're gonna you judge it on one side.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: If he doesn't say one thing, then you're gonna you're gonna write whatever you interpret of that being like, hey, I was trying, you know, we all Austin Wells isn't fast, like it's it, we're not, you know, he's not Michael Johnson out there, we get it.
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: But I I think the accountability factor is just owning it and you know, recognizing situation.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: And if if that's what you felt, then you know, it thoughts you could get there, great.
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: Like, but that's a bang bang play, not get thrown out by four feet.
- 16:12SPEAKER_02: Um but it just seems like situationally, we're just like we're like they lack intelligence, it feels like I don't know, like I don't know.
- 16:24SPEAKER_02: It's just like Jazz makes that mistake, Austin makes a mistake.
- 16:28SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like I know that Aaron Boone can't like like I don't know, do they have to like get up a whiteboard and be like, these are the unwritten rules of baseball?
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, if we're if we're still getting out whiteboards and still having meetings at this point, and we're in the big leagues with a lot of these guys um multiple years, I we're probably not with the right crew, but I I just think it's I can accept physical errors, sure, but when it comes to the mental, where we've been in these situations, we go over them.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: That is part of your your mental prep of okay, if this situation comes and you know, Austin Wells, like you look at his second half, he's he's a top five catcher.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: And I mean, literally in the first half, he was hitting four, his OPS was four.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: It started with a four, that's not very good.
- 17:16SPEAKER_01: OBP with a four, now we're talking business, but it's literally like you you know the value of doing the little things and doing the common things uncommonly well wins baseball games, especially at this point.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: We we've seen it.
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: The Rays put the ball in play, that's it.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: Make the play, clean game, boom, different story.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: But now they put pressure, and so I I just think there's it's the guys on the field that that either have to stop it, change it, get better with it, because there's nothing more you can do.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: You can't practice, you can't do PFPs.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, you usually do because you're killing time in a workout or something like that.
- 18:04SPEAKER_01: You know, we almost saw it cost the White Sox in the White Sox Guardian series, you know, the comebacker big chopper, he throws in, they give up two runs, they go down two to nothing.
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: Obviously, the White Sox came back, but you know, there's certain certain aspects of the game where it's the players, man.
- 18:21SPEAKER_01: You you can cry and moan and yell and scream, but really at this point it it's it's a lot of two, like you you're getting the politically correct answer.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Give me the real answer.
- 18:35SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't care if it's what you want to hear or you don't want to hear, like we sucked, like we didn't do the like.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything, like this wasn't good.
- 18:46SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, that's really in essence what people want to see.
- 18:51SPEAKER_01: They don't they won't, as somebody just commented, don't gaslight us.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: We watch the game, we see it.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: We've seen the last six years in everything that has played itself out in the Yankees.
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: The regular season has happened, get hot, can't win a game, win good enough to get to the playoffs.
- 19:10SPEAKER_01: What happens?
- 19:11SPEAKER_01: We've seen it year after year, and what's gonna change?
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: I mean, you got cashes, contract coming up.
- 19:19SPEAKER_01: If Booney doesn't win now, you do you, but you don't fire him unless you know who the GM coming in, but nothing in 20 years in the front office has changed since I've been there.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: The same people are in the same job and same situation.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: Name me one other, I don't care what's for big four, hockey, football, basketball.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: You haven't won in 17 years, and your front office is the exact same.
- 19:47SPEAKER_01: It doesn't happen.
- 19:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a that's a great clip right there.
- 19:52SPEAKER_02: No, a hundred percent.
- 19:53SPEAKER_02: Uh no, it's infuriating.
- 19:55SPEAKER_02: And listen, I don't I don't want Aaron Boone to change who he is, but like, I don't know.
- 20:02SPEAKER_02: If it's a postseason and your guys like, I don't know, like I feel like I know this isn't football, but like if I'm the manager and Austin Wells gets thrown out third base, I'm kind of chewing them out publicly.
- 20:15SPEAKER_02: I know that probably isn't the best thing for the team, but and maybe not the best thing for his longevity as the manager, but it just gets it, it just it gets a little frustrating.
- 20:26SPEAKER_02: And you're absolutely right.
- 20:28SPEAKER_02: 20 years.
- 20:29SPEAKER_02: It's been 20 years.
- 20:30SPEAKER_02: Ryan Cashman's been in charge.
- 20:32SPEAKER_02: The team plays for the long ball.
- 20:35SPEAKER_02: They aren't playing fundamentally correct.
- 20:37SPEAKER_02: And I think it starts at the top.
- 20:39SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right, but as long as we keep on showing up to the stadium, and you know, I keep on doing these podcasts and and going to Harry Potter night and Star Wars night and George Costanza night.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: First of all, Star Wars night was always the worst because I was always the guy to catch the first pitch.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: Like, really?
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: Like, you can't think of something more creative than jobba to catch the one.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: Like, come on, man.
- 21:03SPEAKER_01: It didn't matter where, like, from the minor leagues to the big leagues.
- 21:06SPEAKER_01: If it was Star Wars night, I was I was a hundred percent catching the first pitch or doing something.
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, this is this is a real easy play on words there.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: So you're calling me fat and ugly.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: I get it.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: I've never seen Star Wars, I've tried to touch it, but I've never seen it to this day.
- 21:24SPEAKER_02: And by the way, I need one of those 62 mugs 100%.
- 21:27SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, these are dope.
- 21:29SPEAKER_02: All right, let's try to.
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: We got all the negativity out.
- 21:33SPEAKER_02: I'm throwing it out, throwing it out, throwing it out because, and I'm a huge Ted Lanzo guy, I usually have the belief sign, and then I saw you tweet out the belief sign by Ted Lanzo.
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: So how do we get to believe?
- 21:49SPEAKER_02: Like, we saw the 2017 Yankees come back from 2 0 deficit.
- 21:54SPEAKER_02: It's not absolutely impossible.
- 21:57SPEAKER_02: We're not playing against the the monsters, like it.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: Possibly could happen.
- 22:03SPEAKER_02: So the Yankees are going back to New York.
- 22:07SPEAKER_02: Max Reed will be on the mound for game three.
- 22:11SPEAKER_02: You're in the clubhouse, and let's say you're Aaron Judge or uh one of the leaders in the clubhouse.
- 22:19SPEAKER_02: What do you tell these guys?
- 22:21SPEAKER_02: Um, how do we refocus to New York uh to try to win a baseball game?
- 22:28SPEAKER_01: Um throw caution to the wind.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: Hey, you know what?
- 22:32SPEAKER_01: It's it's inning by inning now at this point, and I say that, but it's pitch by pitch, really.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: Because you lose, you go home.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: You know, you don't want to plan your vacation now.
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: That's no fun.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: Like, let's play for a while.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: Let's let's see what we can do.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: Like, obviously, you we we got the analytic and the statistical people out that the numbers don't look very good in since this is gone from 2-2-1.
- 22:58SPEAKER_01: I think there's only been four teams that have won.
- 23:00SPEAKER_01: I think it's 92% of people that have fell down 0-2 that have come back to win.
- 23:06SPEAKER_01: But it it it really is go play the game that we all love to play, leave it on the field because what else do you have to do at this point?
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: I can as a manager, I can say whatever it is, or I don't say anything.
- 23:20SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, you guys go figure it out.
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: Like, you're the ones that have to execute the play.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: I I'm gonna manage on field, I'm going to watch the game.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: I'm not, I'm gonna close a book, I'm gonna do whatever.
- 23:35SPEAKER_01: And you've seen some of these postseason series right now where you're watching a lot of these managers coach by field and manage by field and bringing guys in early, late, watching the bullpen and just managing by feel.
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: And you know, we've seen the analytic statistics bite people in the butt.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: And we've seen it with the rays.
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: We've seen Kevin Cash when he took Snell out and they end up losing.
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: Like, so we've we've seen it bite in the butt.
- 24:05SPEAKER_01: But as a manager, if I'm in this situation, I might go to my guy and be like, hey, I'm gonna shut my mouth, I'm gonna sit in my office.
- 24:16SPEAKER_01: You guys are prepared enough to do to win.
- 24:20SPEAKER_01: You guys go do it.
- 24:21SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be here to support you, I'm gonna be here to have your back.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: But hey, let's do this together.
- 24:25SPEAKER_01: You guys go out, you guys are the ones that have to do it.
- 24:28SPEAKER_01: And if there's something to you guys see that you want to try, you want to do this, hey, we're in this together.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: We got a fight and claw from from the ground up to get this.
- 24:35SPEAKER_01: And we got we got to win the first inning.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: We got to win pitch one.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: Then let's worry about pitch two and from there.
- 24:41SPEAKER_01: But as a manager to this point, there's not much you can say.
- 24:45SPEAKER_01: You know, you're not going in to have a meeting, you're not going in to do this, you're not, you know, it's just you're beyond that at this point.
- 24:52SPEAKER_01: It's like, hey, let's go fight.
- 24:54SPEAKER_01: That's all we that's all we have left.
- 24:55SPEAKER_01: If if we want to do something special, it starts right now.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Go have fun, go play video games, go play cards.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: You know what?
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: This game is hard enough to put more pressure on yourself.
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: Just go out, relax, have fun, do what you can do.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: And hey, it's zero-zero now.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, you're fighting for your life here.
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's it's a game that you know you understand, and you know what it takes to win.
- 25:18SPEAKER_01: So just go do it.
- 25:19SPEAKER_01: Don't don't overthink, don't overcomplicate it.
- 25:22SPEAKER_01: It's already hard enough.
- 25:24SPEAKER_01: So I think there's there's only so much you can do, and I always say sometimes less is more.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: And I think this is one of those times where you can't put it all, you know, put all your eggs in one basket.
- 25:33SPEAKER_01: It's like, hey, go go make a couple scrambled eggs, go kick over easy, let's make some hard boiled, like let's do different things, and and we know what it is at the end of the day.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: It's it's going to be what we put forward in in the best aspect, not only physically, but mentally.
- 25:50SPEAKER_01: And go have fun and leave it out there because we lose, we go home.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: There ain't no more meetings.
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: See in spring training, because I don't want to see any of y'all, anyways.
- 26:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and yeah, it's it's tough.
- 26:03SPEAKER_02: But I will say, positively, on a positive note, Max Reed is on the mount, and Max Reed is a gamer.
- 26:10SPEAKER_02: Like, and and and the reason why I thought that the Yankees, even without Aaron Judge, could go far in the postseason is because of their starting pitcher pitching, and their pitching has been absolutely phenomenal.
- 26:23SPEAKER_02: And I do, I do like the Yankees' chances game three.
- 26:26SPEAKER_02: I really do.
- 26:27SPEAKER_02: Oh, who are they gonna pitch?
- 26:28SPEAKER_02: Griffin Jacks, or I don't know.
- 26:30SPEAKER_02: I I think I think that's who they're gonna start.
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know if they've announced it yet.
- 26:37SPEAKER_02: And and they're smart like that too.
- 26:38SPEAKER_02: They're not announcing stuff, they're holding it back, they're not letting us look into the numbers, and that's another smart thing.
- 26:45SPEAKER_02: But like, listen, you we can worry about Drew Rasmussen game four because he's one of the best pitchers in the world, but for game three, you kind of have to go out there and um you know, just win a ballgame and and match read, you know.
- 27:02SPEAKER_02: I trust that guy more than anything.
- 27:04SPEAKER_02: What are your whole thoughts?
- 27:05SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry, go ahead.
- 27:06SPEAKER_01: You no, no, I was just gonna say two, but throw a wrinkle in he might have a kid.
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: I know, I know, I know, and being a dad myself, like I've been fortunate enough to to do both.
- 27:20SPEAKER_01: Um, and now mine is a junior in college, it's weird to think about, but yeah, you you don't want to miss the i'm it's i believe it's his first one.
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're gonna throw another pitch again.
- 27:34SPEAKER_01: You you you're not gonna get a first of watching your child born, so that's that's another, you know, throw another wrinkle in the game, right?
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: Um, so but yeah, no, I if it if all plays the way it is.
- 27:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, they got probable per mlb.com.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Is Nick Martinez?
- 27:54SPEAKER_00: All right, they they had an article about this.
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: Um came out just 3 a.m.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: But I just yeah, it's gonna be Max Fried versus Nick Martinez, which we did rock Martinez uh during that double header.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: I think that was game one when they started Carlos Rodan.
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: I think his pants were too tight.
- 28:13SPEAKER_01: He wears some tight pants, boy.
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: Woo! Oh man, I don't know what I don't know when the tight pants, ever since Verlander started wearing tight pants, people started wearing them.
- 28:22SPEAKER_01: I I'm trying to be comfortable.
- 28:24SPEAKER_01: I don't want the boys all snugged up.
- 28:25SPEAKER_01: I need to breathe.
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: Well what I was gonna ask you, though, because like no freed's the guy, right?
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: Like, he's been there, he's done it, like nothing, nothing's too big for him.
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: Um, and that's but that's the thing I with with all of our guys, though.
- 28:42SPEAKER_01: Like they're a ton of talented arms, obviously, in this postseason, but you know, our staff is probably, if you look at it hands down, probably the most seasoned in the postseason as far as you know, innings and big games and and so on and so forth.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: So that being said, it it's any of the guys that you throw out there.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: I mean, and obviously Rodon in the in the late second half that he had, which it feels like I haven't seen him pitch in a month.
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: I know it ain't been that long, but it with you know the magnitude of the games and everything that goes into it, it just it's felt like you haven't seen him pitch.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: And you know, that's another arm.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: And you know, people brought up why don't we put him in the pen and this, that, and another thing.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: But it doesn't matter what you do, you got to win game three.
- 29:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it doesn't matter what happens or what you're gonna do, it's you have to win this, and I and I think Max obviously is is the choice that you go at.
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: Um if but I mean Brett Dubbs is 100% right.
- 29:40SPEAKER_01: If if you know what do we have, five hits and and it that just doesn't cut it, you're hitting below 100.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: If we've seen you give up one run, if you don't hit, you don't win.
- 29:52SPEAKER_01: So there is that, and that's hard too when you bring that into play, where you know your team offensively is struggling a little bit, where it's like, damn, if you give up one, it feels like you gave up five, right?
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: Right, and so that's that's where it comes in, like we talked about earlier of staying with your game plan.
- 30:10SPEAKER_01: Don't try and do too much, don't try and you know put everything on your back, and then you end up trying to make a perfect pitch, which in turn gets hit 400 feet because you tried to make it too perfect and not just go execute what you're good at and what the game plan is.
- 30:28SPEAKER_01: So it's tough knowing that you as a starting pitcher, you know, you you set a precedent of what the game's gonna be, but you feel like you got a chance if you're gonna win one-nothing, and and and it sucks to say, but uh I'm not I'm not speaking for everybody in in this situation, but we give up one or two, it feels like we're down eight to ten to nothing.
- 30:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, at this point.
- 30:48SPEAKER_02: No, it did.
- 30:49SPEAKER_02: It felt like even down one-nothing, uh, you know, we didn't have a hit through the first three innings.
- 30:54SPEAKER_02: We had, you know, one hit through 10 and a third of the first uh of the series, and uh you're absolutely right.
- 31:01SPEAKER_02: You got to take it one pitch at a time, one game at a time.
- 31:04SPEAKER_02: But I have to ask you a question like, if I'm Garrett Cole, and listen, I know Carlos has had a great season, but if I'm Garrett Cole, I gave up one run game one.
- 31:15SPEAKER_02: I want that ball if I'm Garrett Cole for game four.
- 31:19SPEAKER_02: I'm like personally speaking, like, listen, I don't know.
- 31:23SPEAKER_02: I and I know it's a really hard thing to do, but like Carlos Rodon, like, really good regular season pitcher, he hasn't shown me enough in the postseason where I'm not giving that ball to Garrett Cole.
- 31:35SPEAKER_02: Um listen, I guess you could flip a coin on it, but like if I'm Garrett Cole, like I want that ball.
- 31:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm I trust me, and and that's that's why you got the guy, right?
- 31:46SPEAKER_01: That's that's why you sign him.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: That's that's exactly what you want.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: But then, too, it's also why you have Carlos Redant.
- 31:54SPEAKER_01: Like, so what I it's a great problem to have, but it's a shitty situation to be in, right?
- 32:02SPEAKER_01: Like, I guess that that's the only way I can look at it.
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: Like, it's it's such a good good problem to have having this conversation, which we're not the only ones having it, but it's a shitty situation because you're like, okay, do we do this?
- 32:14SPEAKER_01: Do we start him?
- 32:15SPEAKER_01: Then put Rodan in the pen.
- 32:16SPEAKER_01: Now is there going to be animosity?
- 32:18SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
- 32:19SPEAKER_01: But you never know how each individual hands handles the situation of like, hey, I haven't pitched, it's felt like been a month, and you know, I felt like I've pitched pretty well and and deserve that right, but then it's also on the other hand, it's like, okay, well, are we really worse for the wear on any e either of these guys, right?
- 32:40SPEAKER_01: Like, huh?
- 32:42SPEAKER_01: And so it's a good situation, but also a shitty deal to like, how do you how do you handle it to make sure that everybody is on board, and that that may be somebody just come and be like, hey, I don't care.
- 32:56SPEAKER_01: Whatever, whatever you need, I'll grab my spikes, I'll put my nails on, whether it's in the third inning, whether it's start the game, whether whatever it is.
- 33:05SPEAKER_01: So I I mean, obviously, knowing Garrett and the way that he competes, like he, you know, he said it's one changeup, like, but also too, you want to redeem yourself and be like, all right, I'm not gonna throw that change up, and now it's gonna be a zero instead of a one.
- 33:22SPEAKER_01: Then you got another guy that's thrown the ball well, and it's just yeah, it's it's tough.
- 33:28SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm glad you know I'm on this side.
- 33:30SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I would love to be on the other side and have this conversation to make a decision, which it's a tough decision, but I I just I understand it from both sides, but realistically, we're we can't even touch that conversation unless we win game three.
- 33:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it's a good point.
- 33:46SPEAKER_02: It's a good point.
- 33:47SPEAKER_02: I just like four you're on four days' rest, you lose a game one, nothing.
- 33:52SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 33:53SPEAKER_02: And and but it it again, it's like you said, a great problem to have, but then it's like it gets a little tight because like you know, Rodon hasn't pitched in over two weeks, and how sharp is he gonna be?
- 34:08SPEAKER_02: And uh the rate and the race pitching is so good that like that one run could mean everything.
- 34:14SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
- 34:15SPEAKER_02: It was just a thought.
- 34:16SPEAKER_02: I'm a huge Garricole guy.
- 34:18SPEAKER_02: Um, just absolutely like like I just I feel bad.
- 34:24SPEAKER_02: I feel really bad for for Judge Two having to watch this right now.
- 34:29SPEAKER_02: You know that guy wants to be out there more than anything.
- 34:32SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, again, we just have to stay positive, we have to stay positive.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, it just it looks really bleak right now.
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: And uh they gotta just go out there and win a baseball game, and you can worry about game four or game four, but it's gonna be tough because they got Rasmus in games four, even if they get there.
- 34:53SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, I mean, their arms out of the pen, too.
- 34:55SPEAKER_01: Like game one, they only used two guys.
- 34:58SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, it's you know, they got a lot of a lot of weapons down there, and and we saw a few of them, you know, yesterday, and obviously Baker at the back end, you know, doing what he did this year, and so yeah, it's it's an it's gonna be an uphill climb, and the in and the uphill is is pretty steep, but it's been done before, obviously not a lot, but it's been done.
- 35:21SPEAKER_01: Um, I you know, we we have the talent to do it, first and foremost.
- 35:26SPEAKER_01: It it's just we we've got to play clean baseball.
- 35:28SPEAKER_01: That that is gonna be the biggest, and you know, we've got to be able to score some runs and hit.
- 35:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, get hits when we need them.
- 35:37SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, just get hits.
- 35:38SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm not even gonna say when we need them because we need them all the time at this point, yeah.
- 35:43SPEAKER_01: But it's also making the plays and and doing doing what they know they can do and not putting too much pressure on themselves.
- 35:53SPEAKER_01: Um, going back to New York obviously is is huge.
- 35:57SPEAKER_01: Um, but it it's gonna be pitch by pitch, making the plays, you know, getting runners over, and you know, it may not look sexy in the scorebook, but runner on second, no outs, it's everything you can to hit the ball to the right side or a deep flight ball to get into third, because that one run may be the difference between a win and a loss, and that could be in the second inning, it could be in the eighth inning, you just never know.
- 36:19SPEAKER_01: Um, so it it becomes one of those where you can't look ahead, let's focus on what we got now, and then if we get to that game four, then then we we immediately have the conversation as soon as game three is over.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: Like, there's no we're not celebrating, we're not doing anything.
- 36:34SPEAKER_01: It's like, hey, let's let's get back on the train.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: We got we got to go to work again.
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: Let's figure out what we're gonna do.
- 36:41SPEAKER_01: Staying with the same lineup, are we gonna you know switch things around?
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, yeah.
- 36:46SPEAKER_02: What do you do?
- 36:46SPEAKER_02: What do you do at third base?
- 36:47SPEAKER_02: Like Ryan McMahon looks lost at the plate.
- 36:51SPEAKER_02: Do you you what do you do?
- 36:52SPEAKER_02: You do you throw out the same lineup or yeah?
- 36:56SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, you you you I would try to switch something up.
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, I obviously I don't I think cabbie obviously over there.
- 37:05SPEAKER_01: I'm Boone coming out and saying he loves you know having Cabby for that situation late in the game, whether it's running, whether it's defensively, whether like okay, if that's what you're waiting for, why wait for it?
- 37:18SPEAKER_01: Like, let him let him get out there and do it from the get-go.
- 37:22SPEAKER_01: Does McMahon start game four?
- 37:25SPEAKER_01: I sure shit hope not.
- 37:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 37:28SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm not saying the moment's too big.
- 37:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, as a defender, you know, that is his strength hitting obviously is has not been.
- 37:39SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't think you lose anything with putting cabbie over there.
- 37:42SPEAKER_01: Do I think you put Volpio there?
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think this is a time to try this.
- 37:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're gonna show the videos of him, you know, taking taking ground balls and what have you, but I don't think in an elimination game this is the time you put him over there.
- 37:58SPEAKER_01: Um it's just I think with you you have in somebody what you know you're gonna get.
- 38:05SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, just at the end of last at the end of the regular season, just you know, watching him get a bunt down, then he steals second, then he's still like just that dynamic.
- 38:14SPEAKER_01: Like, why wait till the end of the game when we can use that early and maybe maybe strike a match and like boom, okay, create some energy.
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: Now, you know, he steals second overthrow, boom, he gets to third, we steal a run.
- 38:26SPEAKER_02: And that's also the team that traded him too.
- 38:28SPEAKER_02: And like, I like his energy.
- 38:30SPEAKER_02: I'm there with you.
- 38:32SPEAKER_02: Like, and again, uh, there's not a lot of like easy answers.
- 38:36SPEAKER_02: Did you play Jazz or Volpe at second base?
- 38:40SPEAKER_02: Uh, last game is a tough question.
- 38:42SPEAKER_02: Volpe was two for four versus the guy, uh, versus uh Freddie Peralta in his career.
- 38:47SPEAKER_02: It it's it's tough, it really is tough, but I kind of agree with you, Ryan McMahon.
- 38:52SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to be in there defensively for like to be our defensive leader, and you kind of botch one in the first play of the game.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: He almost missed the second one.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: If you saw the replay, he caught it like right here in the pump.
- 39:05SPEAKER_01: He almost missed that one too.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's tough.
- 39:08SPEAKER_01: And I'm not I'm not downplaying like I've never taken a ground ball other than literally during BP in the big league.
- 39:16SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm not downplaying like third base is third base for a reason, and it's called the hot corner for that reason.
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: So I I'm not not saying that it's easy by any means, right?
- 39:26SPEAKER_01: But also he that that's his mo is to be a defensive guy, and you know, if he runs into a couple, he runs into a couple, but you're taking it for the defensive aspect, and and like I said, I'm not taking anything away.
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: I I don't want to play third with some of those dudes hidden.
- 39:40SPEAKER_01: No, I'm good.
- 39:41SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
- 39:42SPEAKER_02: Jabba, this has been amazing.
- 39:43SPEAKER_02: Gonna leave you with the final question.
- 39:45SPEAKER_02: Really appreciate you coming on.
- 39:47SPEAKER_02: Uh you, I mean, you are basically a part of Yankees Pod the amount of times I always ask you to come on, and I really, really do appreciate you coming on.
- 39:57SPEAKER_02: And uh listen, like, we do want to hear from like the people want to hear from you.
- 40:02SPEAKER_02: Like, you have a huge press on social media, so we really do appreciate you coming on and giving it real.
- 40:08SPEAKER_02: Like, you're not sugarcoating it, you're telling us from a fan's perspective, you were saying your heart rate was going up yesterday watching the game.
- 40:16SPEAKER_01: I didn't even want to, I didn't even want to check it on my watch.
- 40:19SPEAKER_01: I was I was probably gonna get an alert.
- 40:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, same thing.
- 40:22SPEAKER_02: I I I had the watch on.
- 40:24SPEAKER_02: I literally turned it off because I did not want to see what it was.
- 40:28SPEAKER_02: Okay, if the Yankees get swept, if the Yankees get swept, unfortunately, if they do get swept, do you want to see a change um at GM or at manager, or is it what what would you change if we do get swept?
- 40:47SPEAKER_02: And I'm sorry, I'm trying to stay positive, but I have to, but I have to ask you the question because you know this baseball team better than all of us combined.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, it it's like anything, and it's it's hard when you you know people put sports and put you know managers and players on a certain type of pencil, but but realistically it's not.
- 41:14SPEAKER_01: It's if you don't do your job, I don't care if you pack staples, if you deliver mail, it you don't do your job, what happens?
- 41:24SPEAKER_01: You get fired.
- 41:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: And when you know now you magnify it in the aspect of what supposedly a sporting label is, or whatever it may be, it's all the same.
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: If you don't do your job, you don't keep your job.
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: And is it an easy decision?
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: Sometimes the best thing is not the easiest thing to do.
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: But if you've also not won, and that's that is what you strive for every year, and you're not winning, well, if you haven't changed something, how do you expect the outcome to change?
- 42:05SPEAKER_01: And I don't I don't know if that's you start at the manager, you start at the GM, you start at wherever.
- 42:12SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know that answer.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: But I know if I'm doing the same thing and not winning and not getting to where I want to be or where our vision is for us to go, I probably don't have a job.
- 42:25SPEAKER_01: If I don't get the mail to the right person, you know, three three days in a row or a week in a row, or I don't show up, I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna have a job.
- 42:34SPEAKER_01: And so I think just when you think about it in that context, it's like, okay, we've seen it every year, how the regular season is gone, what we've done in the free agent market, what we haven't done.
- 42:48SPEAKER_01: It's been pretty much the same thing for the last seven, eight years.
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: And you get to the playoffs but you don't win.
- 42:54SPEAKER_01: Yes, have they gotten to a World Series?
- 42:55SPEAKER_01: Yes, 100%.
- 42:56SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying they haven't.
- 42:58SPEAKER_01: Have they had the talent to do it?
- 43:00SPEAKER_01: 100%.
- 43:02SPEAKER_01: Have they done it since 2009?
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: No.
- 43:06SPEAKER_01: And for a franchise like this, for any big company, anything as what you would see as a pinnacle of sports, a pinnacle of business, a pinnacle of whatever industry you're in, if you don't win for 15 plus years, you're probably gonna switch something up, like, ooh, steaks aren't selling, let's switch to burgers.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, there's just there's just certain things that you do where you try to figure out where that missing piece is to win.
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: And I think there needs to be some to what degree.
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: I I honestly don't know.
- 43:42SPEAKER_02: No, and and listen, listen, like it's hard, it's harder for you.
- 43:45SPEAKER_02: You're close to the organization, but like I'll say it like if you get squapped again, something needs to change.
- 43:52SPEAKER_02: Whether it's that's the GM, whether that's the manager, whether that's the analytics team, uh, whether that's uh somebody.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: getting more power or less power you absolutely need to change something you know you know so uh it was a hard question for me to ask again like I don't want to put you in a heap of trouble because they they don't I mean they don't write me a check you know it's probably the reason that probably reason they won't ever hire me or put me on but no it's it's just I mean it's it's part of it man it's it's just the understanding of you want to be the best and you want to win and sometimes change has to happen.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that these people are bad at their job but it's just if you're not winning and not getting to where you want to do or are you just okay with doing what you're doing I don't know that answer either.
- 44:41SPEAKER_02: No and I it it does almost feel like that they they they they sell out again we we got we got Star Wars night we got you know we got George Costanza night Harry Potter night uh bad bunny night you know you name it so I I really don't think they care that much I really I think that the bottom dollar is the bottom dollar and and unfortunately like I think they care but I don't think they care for the levels of their heart rate going up during the game I don't know if they do like I don't know if if Hal really cares about that.
- 45:15SPEAKER_02: Like maybe he does but I feel like as fans we might care a little bit more.
- 45:22SPEAKER_02: But listen hopefully hopefully hopefully hopefully the Yankees take the three next games and then if they do we'll get you on next week to talk about the ALCS because listen there's a 0.05% chance of that happening and I wasn't going to just make you come on again in a week but if that happens we'll see you again next week but I'm pretty sure that the Yankees will be in Cancun come Saturday unfortunately because listen Jabba Chamberlain he tells the truth Jimmy Randazzo he tells the truth truth shout out to the uh the people um in the comments we really appreciate you jabba you are literally the best I would do anything I would take a bullet for you um final let's be around let's be around and maybe see a World Series again.
- 46:14SPEAKER_02: So let's uh let's not take no bullets yet yeah all right fair enough and you know I I'm upset because I was sick you were at the Westchester County Center and um I live in Westchester I should have made it there I I I was a little under the weather and I should have made it there but next time you're in town we'll definitely I definitely owe you a dinner or something but really really from the bottom of my heart we appreciate you on Yankees Pod.
- 46:40SPEAKER_01: Final thoughts or you want to pump up the crowd or something you want to say no I mean it's just it's it's gonna be a fun game to watch because I mean obviously they're all fun but you know just to see maybe some adjustments or you know some some switches in the lineup or maybe a little bit demeanor and a little bit of sense of urgency.
- 47:03SPEAKER_01: It's interesting to you to see the way that the schedule worked out between the NL and the AO with the extra day of with the the AL getting so um but yeah no I'm just I'm excited to watch it you know I I love baseball as a whole so this time of year I mean I love baseball during the regular season but this time of the year is it is always fun just because everybody seems to get more vested and you get those you get those casual fans that become real fans.
- 47:27SPEAKER_01: So this is uh this is gonna be uh it's gonna be fun and um I'm pretty sure I might have to shut the blood pressure off thing again this uh game three so um hopefully hopefully we're all in it together and and we can we can live to live to play another day.
- 47:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah we'll be live I mean well listen I'll send you the link if you want to come invent but uh we'll be live Wednesday at 8 p.m for another watch party and hopefully we get a W.
- 47:54SPEAKER_02: But uh listen you listen you should be talking baseball whether it's whatever like you you obviously know more in your pinky than I do in my entire body so uh shout out to you for coming on as always this was Yankees Pod with Jabba have a great day