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REVEALED: The Shocking Reality of What's Being Sprayed in Our Skies w/ Reinette Senum · Man in America Podcast

• 0:05
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Willhaus. So you've probably heard me talk before or maybe I've posted on social media discussing about chemtrails, weather modification. Now if you're someone that doesn't believe that the government has the ability to modify our weather, then I encourage you to stick around at least for the first couple minutes of this interview because we're going in and showing some very, very concrete proof, even on the government's own websites, where people are actually submitting actual examples of different regions where they've done weather modification, whether it's temperature reduction, whether it's cloud seeding for more precipitation, whether it's lessening of precipitation, etcetera. But this is something that I think is so incredibly important because for a lot of the folks that are part of this movement of trying to understand the world we live in and who's really controlling it and the different ways of trying to get rid of us, we, the people, we know that they're poisoning us in many different ways, whether it's through our medicines, our foods, etcetera.
• 1:07
  Well, I I really believe that the most important one that not enough people focus on is the poisoning that's happening from our skies. That's getting into our rainfall, into our rainwater, that's going into the water our animals are drinking, the water that we're drinking that's affecting the wildlife, the plants, the the the entire ecosystem, and the proliferation of it, the amount of planes that are in the sky is dumping this stuff. It's it's astounding. And so today, I'll be talking to a wonderful woman named Renette Senem, and she is behind an organization called Save Our Skies. And so look.
• 1:43
  I know that there's been a lot of discussion about this on different channels about, you know, geoengineering and weather modification, and it's pretty depressing. And oftentimes, feel like there's not a whole lot that we can do. But what I love about what Renette is doing and what her organization doing is it's full of actionable items. It's full of local things, local action that we can take that can actually affect change in this. We can't just get into this place where we think there's nothing we can do, and that they're just gonna keep doing it no matter what and that we're powerless because, yes, one of us individually does not have a lot of power in society.
• 2:14
  But, you know, 5,000, 10 thousand, a hundred thousand of us, if we're coordinated and we take action together, we can move mountains, and we can topple mountains, and we can topple big parts of this evil empire that we're up against. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Renette from saveourskies.org. Renette, it is such a pleasure to have you on the show, and this is one of, I think, the most important topics that we can be covering. So thank you so much for being here.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you. It's my pleasure.
• 2:43
  Seth Holehouse: Thanks, Seth. So I've talked about chemtrails a lot. I've interviewed Dane Wigginton. I've done other shows. I've done research and shown the patents and gone into detail.
• 2:55
  And it's something that I think is one of the most important things because I can avoid, you know, pesticide laden food. I can have a well and I can filter my well water so I can avoid the public tap with fluoride and chlorine. I can avoid medications that are big pharma, you know, I can choose not to put those in my body. But when I go outside, I can't avoid what's in the air outside. I can't avoid what's coming down in the rain.
• 3:27
  I can't avoid what's coming down in this foggy mist, and that's why this is so important. And before we jump into the the meat of this discussion and your organization, what you're doing, which I'm so excited about, there's always, even within the audience I have, I think is very, very kind of awake to watch what's happening in the world. There's always this percentage of people that say, look, that's still a conspiracy. They can't modify the weather, etcetera. So I wanna bring up just a quick web page just to send somebody like that, give them something to look at.
• 3:58
  So this is just an article from The Guardian, and this is over this is a couple years old. So it's not even a recent article talking about how The United States is embracing, quote, cloud seeding to try to conquer drought. So for people that don't believe the government control can control the weather, this is from 2021. I'm just gonna read a a few short paragraphs here. It says cloud seeding involves using aircraft or drones to add small particles of silver iodide, which have a similar structure to ice to clouds.
• 4:26
  Water droplets cluster around the particles, modifying the structure of the clouds, increasing the chance of precipitation. It says below, cloud seeding experiments have taken place since the nineteen forties, but until recently, there's been a little certainty the method actually had any positive impact. But research last year managed to pinpoint snowfall that unambiguously came from cloud seeding. And then this guy, Ganzar, said the officials in Wyoming and elsewhere have, quote, conducted or concluded that cloud seeding works and is an effective way to aid in drought stricken areas, and according to them, with no negative environmental impact. So I just wanted to bring that up because if if you look up cloud seeding, you can see that there's extensive information on very mainstream places that show that yes, the government is modifying our weather, the government can make it rain, they can cause droughts, any of it.
• 5:16
  So I just want to lay that foundation just to kinda give something to to chew on for the people that think that we're nuts. And so I'll now pass it over to you because you are the expert in this.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm as I say to people, I'm the student and the teacher, so I'm learning as I go. And just to let you know, I I had been noticing here in Northern California over the years, you know, ten, fifteen years ago that there were more streaks in the air, and our sun was being dimmed, and I was raised in the area. And as a child, I used to sell. And so I just spent my days looking at the skies and I'd never seen this. But I want to make it very clear that there are different kinds of programs going on.
• 5:55
  Now cloud seeding has been going on for decades for sure. And that's the silver iodide. It could be canisters shot from the ground. It could be, you know, small Cessna spraying and so on. There's all these different ways of doing that.
• 6:07
  That's been happening. But there's also what's going on with our commercial aircraft and our military as well, and that has to do with what's in the fuel itself. So to start with silver iodide, there's a lot of assumptions. We've been doing it for decades. Therefore, because we've been doing it for decades, it is safe.
• 6:22
  But what people don't realize is that those who are spraying or releasing the silver iodine are basing it on nineteen ninety studies. They have not updated the studies. They have not looked at additional information whatsoever or studies or facts. Now if people think that this is not actually happening, since 1972, it was required by federal law to actually register your weather modification programs and projects with National Oceanic and and Atmospheric Administration and the Department of Commerce. So if you go on to NOAA, n o a a dot com, over to the right, you'll see this like weather modification reporting.
• 7:02
  You click on that and you will see hundreds and hundreds of different reporting. So they have to do the the the initial annual report and then quarterly reports. The problem is is they'll ask questions like, you know, and it's very simple form. It's something that you would fill out in high school. And it's like, you know, have you had an environmental impact, you know, report?
• 7:21
  No. Not required. And all they have to do is say, okay, this is the square miles that were, you know, hundreds, maybe thousands of square miles that we're spraying. And these are some of the compounds that we're spraying. And sometimes they'll say proprietary compounds.
• 7:37
  So you don't even know what's in them. There you go. And if you scroll on down to the left, you'll see weather modification, reporting. You see it there?
• 7:46
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And these these are just I mean, looks like there's a massive list right here of probably hundreds and hundred actually, 983 different entries of people reporting weather modification.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. Which is required by law. So when people say that this is not happening, it's like, oh, it's been happening for a long time. And and what happened was the first time that we really actually use weather modification as a weapon was in the Vietnam War.
• 8:12
  That was with the Ho Chi Minh Trail where what they did was they cloud seeded to literally just completely rain out the supply lines of the Vietnamese. And it also, of course, was affecting our men, servicemen and women as well. And after that and what they were doing is they're trying to increase the monsoon season, make it more intense. And what happened ultimately is that caused a global treaty where you cannot use weather weather modification as a as a tool of war. But you can use it during a time of peace.
• 8:44
  You can use it on your own people, but you can't use it as a, you know, a method of war. So so there's that. Now what's happened is that people have just assumed because we've been doing it for decades that it's safe. But the problem is is that the silver iodide, these chemicals, and when exposed to high heat because they are flared out, it has to be exposed to a high heat. There's a chemical change.
• 9:09
  Nobody's ever looked into that. And the other thing that's important to understand is that this is accumulative. Right? These chemicals are accumulative. And so so that's been going on.
• 9:19
  So we're actually looking at that. What we're doing, we have our saveourskies.org. I started this last spring because here in California, we're in the the foothills of thank you. We're in the foothills of the Sierra Mountains, and we had record amount of snow, and it was extraordinarily heavy. South by the end of the winter, our forest looked like a war zone, a war zone.
• 9:45
  People were stranded in their homes. There was so much snow they couldn't make it to the woodshed. Roofs collapsed. Trees were snapping in half. Pontarosa pines that are built for snow were snapping in half, falling over.
• 9:56
  And and it was a complete war zone. And then what happened was I had a bunch of friends around the state of California, mama warriors, were also horrified by what they were seeing, and they grabbed the hail samples and water samples, and we had them tested at a certified lab. And of course, it came up with high, high, high amounts of aluminum, strontium, barium, cadmium, cobalt, lead, copper, I mean, sulfur. It just goes on and on and on. So but the thing is that that's not necessarily coming from the cloud seeding specifically like the cloud seeding that I'm talking about where they're going out with Cessnas or canisters.
• 10:30
  But what we now know, and thanks to Jim Lee from Climate View who I recommend you interview, what we're discovering is that there's nanoparticulate matter within the jet fuel itself that contains the soot, contains what's called the black carbon. And within that there is like this graphene lamina that covers and coats the nanoparticulate matter and inside the soot are all those heavy metals that I just just named.
• 11:00
  Seth Holehouse: So real quickly, I want to just jump because I want to get back to it, but I want to go back over just the NOAA page. Right? Which is this and I'll put this link in the description because this is this is actually really important. Yes. So even here Let's take an example.
• 11:13
  So we have the close to a thousand entries that are just showing up in this this initial search. So here we see rainfall increase and hail damage mitigation. So in South Dakota, they did a rain fall increase. Here in let's see this area. In North Dakota, they did an increased precipitation, rainfall augmentation.
• 11:33
  Like, so if folks just scroll through this snowfall augmentation, I mean, you just go to 99 pages of this where in different states across the nation, looks like air temperature reduction. Right? So okay. What are they doing for an air temperature reduction? I mean, could that pertain could that cause an Arctic freeze in Texas, for instance?
• 11:55
  I mean, this is just wild. So I'll make sure that link is in there because this is a great resource for people to look at. But then then I I really I guess I'll let you respond to that, but then I wanna really dive into what you're talking about with the jet fuel because that's really important.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: Well well, first of all, any geoengineer out there, if they're honest, will tell you that you're you're you're playing with nature. And the climate and weather is so dynamic that you can't actually completely know what the outcome is going to be. And when you are steering clouds in one direction or causing it to rain here, that means you're actually depriving somebody else of natural rainfall. Now one of the things that I've learned this last year is that you can actually overseed the clouds or you actually spray at nighttime and the cirrus clouds you would have in the evening and the storm that was coming in will dissipate by daytime. So you can actually over seed the clouds and have a different basically, a different kind of reaction, which is you just dry up the the you know, the actual little ice nucleate water particles.
• 13:04
  And so it's it's playing with fire, essentially. It's playing with fire. And now there have been decades ago, there were actually lawsuits where they were doing weather modification through cloud seeding, and they flooded out ranches. They destroyed farms, and they they actually these geoengineers were sued and they lost. But people don't know this.
• 13:24
  See, they don't know about the NOAA website. They don't know. There's no real public noticing, hey. We're going to be cloud seeding today, or we're gonna be doing this, we're going to be doing that. So you can actually see if it's affecting your weather.
• 13:36
  Now just to let you know, most of these type of weather modification programs are going on are going on from the Colorado Rockies to the West Coast. That's because they're using the airlift, you know, of the storms coming in off the Pacific and so on. And they use that to lift the the, silver iodide. On the East Coast, you don't see that as much. Now there's a multitude of different reasons too why we're seeing such terrible tree die off, especially seeing it from the Rockies over.
• 14:03
  That's a combination of these weather modification programs. We also know because of the immense amount of jets, commercial jets flying over our heads, that's having an impact. But there's also something very interesting that people don't realize is that ever since the NAFTA agreement where we exported all of our manufacturing and industries to Asia and we started shipping all of our raw materials over there, and they make our products and they send them here. What's happened is now we have these massive, massive cargo ships with huge smokestacks. And until just about two, three years ago, they were burning the nastiest, dirtiest fuel out there called bunker fuel, which is extraordinarily high as well in soot and all these heavy metals.
• 14:47
  So the poor West Coast is getting bombarded. And when we do the actual rain sample tests, we will see that there's more concentration of heavy metals along the Sierra Nevada Foothills, the mountain range right there.
• 15:03
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• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Then there is, let's say, the Bay Area because all of that soot. Alright? All all everything all the heavy metals have been burning off along the ocean is actually just starting to pile up along the mountain range. And so these are called ship tracks. If you Google ship tracks so what's happening as well is there you will see ship tracks and these little lines, they squiggle all over the place because the wind is blowing them.
• 16:32
  They're actually creating their own cirrus clouds. They're changing the the weather over the Pacific Ocean, and they're also causing it to acidify as well. There you go.
• 16:45
  Seth Holehouse: Wow. I I I'd never agree to that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly. No. That is actually and that all of that is coming in to the West Coast Of The United States, especially. It goes across the whole entire United States, but we, in particular, get dumped on here. And so when people say to me, well, Renette, what can we possibly do?
• 17:02
  I say, well, good news is this. Most of the answers are local. Most of the answers lie in our hands. And what I mean by that is we as Americans need to stop start demanding that we bring manufacturing back to America. First of all, all we did was export environmental damage into other nations who don't have any kind of worker rights, don't have environmental regulation or standards, and we're all still on the same planet.
• 17:27
  Doesn't matter if there's pollutant over there. Sooner or later, it will come to us. And what we need to do is bring manufacturing back to America where we can actually apply environmental standards, keep it local, where we're not dependent upon these gigantic ships the size of cities with huge smokestacks. And now they've changed over to bunker fuel to these different kind of biofuels. We don't even know what's in there.
• 17:47
  They use everything from chicken fat to plant material. Well, all this plant material has glycopates in them, and then you're burning them as a fuel. Sometimes the solution is worse than the original problem and it's called Jevon's paradox where you make matters worse by trying to make them better. So, you know, and as we've been saying, like, well, you know, we'd love to get rid the cirrus clouds are being made by the commercial aircraft. It's like, well, okay, maybe you want to change the fuel, but you don't know what you don't know what that replacement is going to be like.
• 18:16
  It might be actually even worse than what we have right now.
• 18:19
  Seth Holehouse: So one question I have for you. I'll I'll bring up just a picture of a just a chem trail, which this has unfortunately become common now. At least in this picture, you still have a blue sky, whereas what I see most commonly, you see that you see the blue sky in the morning, and then you'll see the Kim the the trailing start. And then by afternoon, it's it's cloudy, and there's no sun. And there's this this, like, foggy haze in the sky, and and it's really gross.
• 18:44
  And I've I've noticed that it's increased a lot over the last couple of years. And my wife who's very sensitive with her breathing, you know, she she can tell when a heavy chem chem trailing day, which we can go I use my weather app on the phone, it'll tell me what the air quality is. And you'll see that on a nice clear day, the air quality is maybe 15 or 20. And you can breathe well. But if it's up to say a hundred or a 20, she can sense it.
• 19:12
  Right? And and it's it's it seems like it's gotten worse. And so when you're talking about these metals, because of course, they tell us, oh, silver iodide or whatever it is, and it's environmentally friendly, and it's okay. But when when you're testing, you know, the snowfall and the precipitation, and you're finding barium, strontium, aluminum, all these different metals, How like, what are those metals doing? Okay.
• 19:37
  Because I think this is really important because whether people believes in the chemtrail as we know it. Right? It doesn't really matter because if we can show them that these jets, whether it's through their their fuel or through their spraying off these canisters, whatever it is, that they're dumping these things in our atmosphere that are really, really bad for us and causing cancer, etcetera. To me, it's it makes the whole idea of whether that's a chemtrail or a contrail a moot point because you can show like, look what's in our rainfall. This is not supposed to be in there.
• 20:07
  And so with the tests that you've done, and the the metals that you're seeing, what does what does amounts look like? And what effect do those metals have on on us, on the plants, on the animals, on our water, etcetera?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. So this is this was the learning curve that I've been participating in this last year. So first of all, jet fuel has changed over the years. Now they use what's called Jet A or, you know, jet fuel eight. And what's happened is that it's a different kind of fuel.
• 20:42
  And it's not necessarily that there's commercial aircraft out there and they've got these canisters and they're, you know, blowing out these chemtrails. It's not actually that. What I've learned is that there's something called the Appleman chart. The Applman chart is actually used by the Air Force. The Applman chart is for those who are out on the aircraft carriers, and it's the meteorologist's job on these aircraft carriers to identify a band in where there's amount of humidity and cold temperatures.
• 21:12
  And if you have the right amount of humidity and cold temperatures, you will have extended contrails that look like chemtrails, right? And the reason why they need to identify where it's not too cold and there's not too much moisture is that they want those jets to fly. They want to come back to the aircraft carrier and not have a long trail, lean you back to the ship. So we have a gentleman by the name of Jeff Ray. Jeff is helping us.
• 21:36
  He's on our team with Save Our Skies. And what he has been doing is telling us, okay, you guys, according to the Applman chart, today at 03:00, you're gonna start seeing what looks like chemtrails from four to let's say from 03:00 to probably 08:00 according to the Applman chart. And that's because the conditions are ripe for these extenuated contrails to continue out and keep going and not dissipate and then expand, expand, expand until they cover the skies. Now, so there's that. Okay?
• 22:07
  And that's that's changed a lot. The other thing that's really interesting is just a couple years ago, there was a volcano called Hunga Tonga down in the Southern Hemisphere. And it actually you have what's called the troposphere, which is, you know, where most commercial aircraft fly. Then you have the stratosphere. Well, Hunga Tonga was so huge, it blew up into the stratosphere down in the Southern Hemisphere.
• 22:28
  All that moisture was in the Southern Hemisphere and is now fine that this last year made its way up into the Northern Hemisphere. So that means for the next year, two years, maybe three years, you're gonna see a lot more of these tremors. Why? Because there's much, much more humidity up in our atmosphere.
• 22:43
  Seth Holehouse: So I wanna make sure that I understand this correctly with this with the Appleman chart specifically is that so that's showing with this image that I I pulled up here. Right? That they're showing it looks like there's this that gray band, which is the typical or probably the ideal flight level. So basically, what it's showing us is that there's a temperature and atmospheric pressure are the two axes on this chart, and that when you get to the ideal temperature and atmospheric pressure, that particular band, that height, right, in in the sky, like that level of of of sky, you'll have much in a much easier formation of clouds. Right.
• 23:22
  Right?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So Combination of cold of cold and humidity. If you don't have the cold, you don't have those extended trails. If you don't have the humidity, you don't have those extended trails. Now what does that mean? So when people see and this is how I've been is there are sometimes here in Northern California where we'll have days and days and days of first thing in the morning, you see the crisscrosses.
• 23:42
  And sometimes we will not see this actually see the sun, the bare sun for two weeks at a time. Yeah. And to go, oh my gosh, you're spraying like crazy today. It just drives you absolutely crazy. And it just it it feels it's still suffocating.
• 23:55
  Right? It's just oppressive. Mentally, emotionally, it's really tough. Well, the thing is this, is that whether you see those trails or not, they're in the air. And the nanoparticulate matter, which is actually made of black carbon and black carbon is basically comes from coal fired plants.
• 24:12
  It comes from fossil fuels. There's this and if we go which we've actually gotten jet a fuel, we've tested it and it came up with just barely any heavy metals. We're like, well, doesn't make sense. Well, that's because we're only testing a little tiny amount that we actually we are not using the right type of technology to look at the nanoparticles. And if we could, we'd see within the nanoparticles there is this graphene lamina that is surrounding the soot and all the heavy metals and could also have other things like mRNA vaccinations.
• 24:42
  You can have anything you want in their nanotechnology. You're not gonna see it unless you actually have the right kind of laboratory. Now you can sit and go, what's only it's a minuscule amount. So we're looking at the test results. We're going, well, that's not what we were imagining.
• 24:53
  We were, you know, we're imagining so much more, you have to understand there are hundreds of thousands of flights per day. The average this is mind blowing. The average seven forty seven emits up to a hundred trillion no. Sorry. A hundred quadrillion ultrafine soot particles per second.
• 25:14
  And if the conditions are right, it has the right amount of humidity and freezing cold air, you will or you won't see those trails continue and continue. And so also it can these things contain benzene, formaldehyde. There's all these other things that are in there. And so now this has been going on for decades and decades and decades. And so when you look at flight travel as well, back in the seventies, we had like 70,000 flights a day.
• 25:43
  And if you go on to adsexchange.com, which I actually recommend you do, you will see how many flights are going on per day. And when you realize this calculation of a hundred quadrillion ultrafine soot particles per second coming out of a normal seven forty seven, then you realize that we are being sprayed like bugs every single day. ADS exchange, there you go. Now if you can just slowly move out so you can see the whole entire map of America, and this is live, by the way. These are how many flights are going on right now.
• 26:22
  Keep moving out. Keep moving out.
• 26:25
  Seth Holehouse: Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. It's staggering.
• 26:38
  Seth Holehouse: So This is live in the sky right now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Right now over our heads. And and by the way, those that are the lighter pink color planes, those are the ones who are actually in the stratosphere. They're much higher and those are generally the the personal private jets of let's say the World Economic Forum Davos Group. And those particulate matters stay up in the stratosphere a lot longer. Whereas the stuff down in the troposphere where most commercial aircraft, they'll they'll wash out once you get a rainstorm coming in.
• 27:14
  Seth Holehouse: My goodness.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So so when people understand that it's and granted, there are we do know for a fact. We've seen the patents. We know there's military black operations and so on undercover. You know, there's all these different programs we've seen through, you know, freedom of information requests where they are and they can spray and they're not telling us. Which is again, we need the transparency.
• 27:36
  We need to it should be required by law to let us know what's happening and we're being experimented on. And that's the stuff we're not seeing. And that's the stuff that's very difficult to get to. And the military, the government, they're very much protected by law. And so we're not even trying to crack that nut.
• 27:53
  We're kind of starting here with a smaller guy. And we're putting the little guys on notice saying, hey, look at you can't do this any longer and we're going to work our way up because Save was created last spring after this horrific winter. And we saw the results of our lab results of the water and the hail and so on from the rain. And that's when I started Save Our Skies and I put together a legal team to say, okay, how do we start to address this? Who do we go after?
• 28:17
  And this is going to be a series of lawsuits because it's just has to be but. The thing is, Seth, is we're not putting all of our eggs in the same basket because we know the court systems can be skewed. It depends upon the judge. It depends upon politics. So we're doing a multipronged approach in that we're we're we're seeking the legal route, but we're also trying to teach people.
• 28:36
  So with Save Our Skies, we're trying to create this grassroots uprising where people know how to read the skies. They can go on to ADS Exchange. They go on Flight Radar 24. They can start to identify who's doing the weather modification programs. They can identify what, you know, what planes are flying over them.
• 28:55
  They can actually identify and read the Appleton chart to go, okay, today we're going to be seeing what looks like chemtrails being sprayed because the conditions are just right. And they become their own activists in the respective areas. Then the objective is to make sure that we teach them how to read the skies, how to collect the water, rain, snow samples, where to send them, what to test for. And then once you get those results, make it very real by going to your county supervisors, going to your city council members and say, I want you to see these rainwater results. This is not happening in Mount Mount Shasta.
• 29:33
  This is happening right here. That means it's in your water. It's in your food. It's in your soil. You're being doused in it.
• 29:42
  And right now, those heavy metals are actually lodged in your brain and circulating throughout your body and the body of your children.
• 29:51
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• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And make it real. Then what we're doing is we've teamed up with a gentleman by the name of Cal Washington of empowermovement.org. I don't know if you know them, where they're doing what's called notice of liabilities. And so I'm a former elected official. I was a two time council member, two time mayor.
• 31:14
  I was mayor when COVID hit. I have been I've been very much involved and engaged in community activism for twenty years. I've been in the trenches on the front lines, which I love doing. And what we're trying to do is educate people saying, look it. Your elected officials are protected somewhat in the seat, in the position that they hold.
• 31:33
  But once you make them aware of a crime being committed, you put them essentially on notice and you say, okay. This is what's happening. You need to do something about it. And if they do nothing about it, if they just turn a blind eye, then they are now no longer protected in that seat. You can personally hold them liable.
• 31:53
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Okay.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: So what Powell Washington and his team has been working on and years ago, they started doing no subliabilities for, they called them NOLS, for smart meters, for five g, for cell antennas, saying, okay, we're going to be in this contract. Okay, great. We're in this contract. Prove to me that this prove to me that this, this, this, this, this, and this cannot harm me. And generally, you never hear a response because they can't prove that.
• 32:19
  It's like, great. Being that you can't prove to us that this is not causing harm, you are either part of the criminal enterprise or you're covering up for it, but now you are actually going to be held responsible. And we're gonna hold you personally liable. That means your home, your cars, your assets, your bank accounts, we're gonna come after it. And boy, does that make people resign really quickly.
• 32:43
  So what what Cal Washington and his team are hoping to have by mid February is what we're we're shooting for is they are putting together a notice of liability, which is a bit different for all the spraying going on, for the weather modification programs and projects. And what we're going to do is we have to kind of start at the bottom and say, okay, if we have to, okay, here's a company that does the the seed the cloud seeding. We're going after the company, the CEO, and we're going after the pilot. You need to stop. You don't have our permission.
• 33:12
  You don't have our consent to spray us like bugs. And then we work our way up, and maybe we'll get to a point where we're like, okay. Now we got the airline companies. Right? You guys were putting you on notice.
• 33:22
  You've got to stop doing this stuff. You've got to find a way, cleaner fuel, whatever. Part of it is that we don't know if they're doing it on purpose and they're taking advantage of it or they just kind of figured it out later on. But it's like you've got to actually refine these fuels to make them cleaner so that there are no nanoparticulate matters that are essentially killing every living form on the planet. Everything, Seth.
• 33:48
  Everything, including the microbiome in the soil, aquatic life, birds, bees, bugs, children, even on board are being affected by this. And I say to people, look at, I'm a community activist. I've been fighting for the trees, the watershed, right, build topsoil for the organic farmers. But as long as we're all being sprayed. Right.
• 34:07
  This is affecting the trees, I'll give you an example. In the Western United States, there's massive, massive tree die off and people are saying, well, it's because the bark beetle. No, no. The bark beetle is a symptom of something much larger. Bark beetles move in once the trees are compromised and dying.
• 34:23
  We have had people starting ten years ago testing the tree bark of trees have just fallen over, broken in half, fall over and you see six feet in within the root system, the roots have completely decayed. You see Ponderosa pine trees built for stout snap in half. So we test the bark and in the bark is very, very, very high levels of aluminum and other heavy metals. So what's happening? It's actually choking off the channels of the tree that absorb the water, the sugar, the minerals in the soil, and they can't essentially breathe.
• 35:02
  When we walk into our conifer forest, you'd walk into them and you just get hit with this beautiful aroma, right, of the ponderosa and so on. You now walk into a forest and you barely smell them. There's almost no scent. And the reason why there's no scent is because the channels inside the trees and the roots are choked off. They cannot absorb all of these nutrients and water, which means they are not expelling, not expelling that moisture, the oxygen that we breathe, and they're just dying so you can't smell them any longer.
• 35:36
  Our honey bees now have Alzheimer's because the aluminum content in the brain is so high. They have Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's is off the chart. So even when you're growing your food and you're in a gore organic farm, unless you have it in a greenhouse, But even then, okay, you're not getting sprayed on, but the water you have, unless it's in a well, a deep well, the water is also full of these particulate matters and these heavy metals. Right.
• 36:06
  It's actually the most important thing we're facing right now. So if you're trying to fight for your children, you're trying to fight for the redwoods, you're trying to fight for the salmon, whatever. If we don't get control of our commercial aircrafts, if we don't get control of the fossil fuel industries, if we don't get control of the shipping and bring manufacturing back to the local areas into America, we're not dependent upon these type of weird now bunker fuel replacements. We're you know, and we can do this, but we need to have strategy and we need to have a groundswell of support. And that comes through education, that comes through organized, right?
• 36:41
  Organizing and so on. Teaching people different routes. It could be the notice of liabilities. It could be open letters right to our air water quality boards, putting them on notice. We have a a dear friend of mine, Catherine Sari, who's one of the mama mama bears out there, you know, testing the samples.
• 36:56
  She's actually gone to the air and water quality board saying, hey. Look at these air water, you know, these rain samples here. And and, you know, what are you gonna do about it? And they're like, oh, sorry. We don't we don't test for that.
• 37:08
  We we we don't have the we don't have the ability to test for this. She's like, well, get on it. It's your job. You're the buffer. You're the firewall.
• 37:17
  You're the agency that is there to protect us. And we're seeing this do something. So and what she does, and this is what we try to teach people, is that when she goes out and she puts her elected officials on notice, she makes sure that she cc's everybody so that when she sends this email, it's not in a silo saying, hey, could you please do something about this? They will see this, all these people who are also being emailed and oh my gosh, they're they're feeling they're feeling the the heat on their feet.
• 37:46
  Seth Holehouse: So I I wanna make sure that I understand just the what I think is one of the more fundamental parts of this. And then I wanna go deeper into what we can do about it because that's so important. And I think that a lot of the the folks that watch the show, they're very discerning. They're and and they're looking for ways to help reverse this this evil agenda in our world. Doesn't matter whether it's through medical freedom or through election integrity or through this.
• 38:12
  They're they're they're active. And so I want to empower people to do something because this is exactly the kind of information that we need to be hearing. It's not just here's this big doom and gloom, and we're screwed. Okay? Which is, you know, I mean, I I cover stories like that.
• 38:28
  You can't avoid it. And it's just the reality sometimes, but I think that practical solutions are so important. So from what I gather with this, the the the crux of the matter is not necessarily, oh, look at all the chemtrails today. Right? Because that, you know, if we go out and say there's a week straight of chemtrails, what that tells me from talking to you is that it's because the conditions were ripe to reveal what's actually happening on everything anyway.
• 38:54
  Every evening. Yes. Now even though those chemtrails I do notice lead to storms coming in, there is the weather modification aspect of it that seems to result of as a result of the, you know, the the the buildup of clouds, and all a sudden, it's raining the next day, and these violent storms come through, and that but that's kind of a different part of this. What this is really is it's recognizing that chemtrail or no chemtrail visibly in the sky, that our these commercial airlines, which of one of many vectors, but these commercial airlines are dumping highly toxic chemicals into our air. And if you go back to our map here
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And and and burning them.
• 39:33
  Seth Holehouse: And burning them. Right? That's right. That doesn't matter where you live. Go find your address on here.
• 39:39
  You've got it in your sky. And so Okay. And that so this is, like, that's the the real the real focus of this is that they're doing this. It's kind of like let's just say that, you know, you send your child to school, and say you live out in the country. It's really, you know, really nice, and all all of a sudden, a third of that school develops cancer because you realize that 15 miles away is a Nabisco processing plant, and they're dumping chemicals into the waterways, which are going into the wells, and these kids are now getting cancer, like, you would say, oh my gosh.
• 40:10
  Like, we have to sue to shut down that that factory and make them pay for damages. This is the same thing, except it's it's so big. It's so ubiquitous that it's so easy to ignore. So it it I think that I capture the essence of what a lot
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: of things. The thing is this is that no one no one has questioned it. Nobody has really looked into it. And there's an assumption that because we've been doing it for decades, it's safe.
• 40:34
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Smoking was done for decades before they realized it caused cancer. Right. I mean
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: And that's like like with cloud seed, we've been doing it for decades. But the the the cloud seeders, the companies themselves are basing their premise, their belief system on nineteen ninety environmental impact reviews. And there's been a lot more studies since then, but they ignore them. And so again, we're like, wait a second. That's actually part of the problem.
• 41:01
  So it's not just one problem. Right? It's a multitude of different problems. And so we at Save Our Skies, our legal team and our researchers and what I call our sky watchers, what we're trying to do is start with the lower hanging fruit. We got to start there, educate people, educate the people who are doing because people who are spraying the pilots probably don't even realize this.
• 41:20
  They too think it's perfectly safe. They don't know. So it's our job to educate people and then put the we'll call them perpetrators whether they know it or not. Put them on notice like, hey, guys, you're you're impacting us. And to be very clear.
• 41:34
  Generally, what happens is that with with cloud seeding, you see it at the beginning of storms and the storms are coming in because you have to have a certain amount of moisture in order to do it. What you're doing is you're putting particulate matter out there to create those little rain droplets and so on. You know, the particulate matter allows the the moisture droplets to connect to something and make the cloud heavy so it actually rains. So they only cloud seed when there's a storm coming in and maybe maybe some during a storm, but also afterwards to try to maybe extend it longer. But again, if they are if they are cloud seeding, let's say, at nighttime and spring at nighttime, that will actually dissipate the cirrus clouds.
• 42:12
  You'll have a different complete reaction, interestingly enough. So they the many times you see a storm coming in, all of sudden it just disappears. Like, where did the storm go? More than likely, it was dissipated from over cloud seeding.
• 42:24
  Seth Holehouse: Interesting. And so okay. Your organization saveourskies.org, which I'll I'll put all these links in the description. If someone today watches this interview, which I hope that a lot of folks do, and I hope that those who do watch it share it because we have to get this information out to more and more people. If they say, okay, I want to get involved.
• 42:45
  I want to be able to do something in my local community to educate, to whatever it is. If they called you up and said, what can I do? What would you tell them? What would you walk them through?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. A couple different things. If you really, really want to know how to read the sky, you wanna get into the nitty gritty, every second Tuesday and fourth Wednesday of the month, we have what's called our SOS swarm webinar. And on the swarm webinar, we bring on our meteorologist, and he teaches people how to read the Applemen chart. Many times, we'll bring on Jim Lee, which, again, I cannot I cannot stress enough.
• 43:18
  You must bring him onto your show. He is extraordinarily intelligent and knows this stuff inside and out. So I recommend coming on to our swarm webinar and right there where you see to the right of that image is okay. That's where you can go, and and and join us. And I don't think I have the next calendar dates.
• 43:36
  We just went through them all.
• 43:38
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, okay.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: But the second Tuesday and fourth Wednesday of the month, and it's just the same link over and over and over again. And then also if you happen to live in Los Angeles, I will be giving a ninety minute presentation on February 10 at LAX Hilton for the Conscious Life Expo, and we'll get into the nitty gritty as well as what you can do about it. So I really recommend going on and joining our swarm webinars. And then on February 10, when I give my presentation, that is when we're going to have our citizen engagement kit ready. And we're hopefully, we'll have the NOSA liability up and ready to go.
• 44:08
  But no matter what, we'll also be sharing what's called New Hampshire, gosh, Texas. They have what's called the Clean Atmospheric Act legislation that they keep bringing back and bringing back to try to get passed. They just had testimony and a hearing on the Clean Atmospheric Act in New Hampshire just about a week ago, and they're actually taking it back and they're, you know, Jim Lee is one of the advisers as well. And this is really determined group of people who are going to the drawing back to the drawing board and they're drawing it up to actually say, hey, look at you can't sprays like this. You can't have all this millimeter wave and all these different, you know, you know, cell towers radiating us left and right.
• 44:45
  And we're just we're trying to reclaim our skies, re reclaim the atmosphere because if you don't have a clean sky, you're not going to have a healthy planet. And so the other thing I'd recommend is keep checking back on our Save Our Skies and join us for our bimonthly webinar. And then I also really recommend going on to ClimateViewer.com. It is an extraordinary amount of information. Just start with the home page alone.
• 45:12
  There's some slide PDFs there as well you can go through. That's actually Jim Lee. There's also engineering.com and .org as well. And this also on ClimateViewer, when you look at the history of weather modification, it goes back into like the eighteen sixties, the eighteen seventies, when they were using fire to change the weather and bring in storms.
• 45:40
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communist that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
• 46:13
  You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.
• 46:45
  So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storable food that'll last for up to twenty five years. Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that lasts up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavens harvest dot com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And it's it's extraordinary. And that is really where you're going to get the science, the facts, the history, the patents, the news stories over the generations. And you'll have a much clearer picture of what's really, really going on. And it's not that what we see is the aircraft we've been led to believe that there's all these tanks inside these commercial aircrafts and they're spraying things out. Well, that might be happening somewhere.
• 47:55
  But once again, what you're really seeing is hundreds and hundreds of thousands of flight, millions of flights, millions of flights. And that just day in, day out, and day in and day out have little nanoparticles that add up to a lot.
• 48:12
  Seth Holehouse: And so with the actions that people are taking, especially the local ones, and this is always, I think, an important question because we've seen our court system. We've seen how they handled a lot of different things recently, and I would say that it appears, like, in most cases, the court system is against the average person. They're against We The People. They represent big pharma. They represent big government, big corporations, big banks.
• 48:37
  I mean, that that they're really, in a lot of ways, just an extension of those organizations. So have you seen actual progress with this? Have you seen you know, are there any states or any regions that are actually close to taking real action that might ban this or hold these organizations accountable? Well are some Decades we can
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Decades there were lawsuits where certain states and farmers and so on did sue because of weather modification and they won. But what I have seen and I'm a person who's been observing this for years too and I have to admit that I for many, many years thought somebody else had it taken care of. That somebody else in the other organization was actually on our behalf going out there and taking this to court. And then when I began our Save Our Skies last spring, I come to find out that's actually not really the case. Our attorneys have been looking at what's been going on and they're flabbergasted.
• 49:30
  So they're like, how in the world has this been going on to this extent, this extreme level for so many decades and nobody's done anything. I'm like, exactly right? Because I think we've all thought somebody else had it taken care of. Now, so that's one thing. We just thought there's orgs out there, organizations doing that, know, fighting on our behalf.
• 49:51
  Well, that's just not happening. Now there's another thing is we know the courts can be completely screwed. But what we're also looking at is we talked to an attorney, he said, look, there's another thing that you can actually do. And this is this is where the swarm comes. This is why we call it save our skies swarm webinars.
• 50:08
  Is one bee, two bees not going to take you down. You get a swarm of bees and you can take down somebody. So the objective is if we also have to, we can go to small claims court and you can get a group of people in your community and you can go on to the NOAA website that you showed earlier in your program. You can see where weather modification programs are going on. And you can also start identifying through the flight radar 24 for instance.
• 50:35
  And you can actually see certain signatures where you see like this figure eight going around and around and around before a storm is coming in. And then what then after that flight track, you can see kind of goes away and they've landed. You'll see the storm come in and you'll see there's much more moisture in the storm because it's passed through all the cloud seeding. Well, when you see this, what we do is we actually teach you, of course, how to collect the rain samples, the snow samples. That's part of our swarm webinars.
• 51:01
  But then what you can do is get a group of people in your community and say, okay, we're we're we're gonna be a swarm. And one person per day goes into your small claims court and you file. The next day you have another person. And the next day you have another person. And the next day and the next day and the next day.
• 51:17
  And you take it to court saying, hey, look at this is what's going on. You don't have my permission. You don't have my consent. We know that this is actually I'm breathing this in. I'm consuming it and I'm drinking it.
• 51:26
  I don't have to show the harm. I can you can assume there's going to be harm from this. And the judge may say, nah, you know, throws it out. But you learn from the judge's decision until finally you figure out, Okay, this is this is how we have to navigate to get the the judge to, you know, basically give us a win. And then day after day after day after day after day, you have people coming to the same court.
• 51:48
  And that company, that pilot, right, those cloud seeders have to show up. And if they lose time and time again, it's a no show, you get them for 5,000 a day, 10,000 a day, day after day after day. If we have to do that, we can do that too and it's much easier to win in small claims than it is a massive and it's much faster and much cheaper, does not involve attorneys. You'll get some wins and we can do that as well.
• 52:16
  Seth Holehouse: So this is It really is a swarming. It's the same way that a thousand bees will kill a man.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so our objective is to teach people to empower people because even our attorneys say, look, we can go out there and we can have the best case in the world. But if there are not millions of eyes on the case, if there's not public pressure at every level, they'll just sweep it under the rug. So what we're trying to do is bring together the best minds to create a team to educate the pub public to empower them in their respective communities to read the skies, to collect the rain and snow samples, to know how to see what's who's doing what where, and then how to proceed forward next. Are you supporting us?
• 52:58
  Are you going to be advocating for certain state legislation? Or are you going to take this to small claims? Are you going to write an open letter? Are you going to put pressure on your water air quality boards? Or are you going to do no liabilities to your elected officials saying we're being sprayed like bugs and you have to do something about this?
• 53:16
  And if you don't, we're going to hold you personally liable. It's a it's a big nugget. It's a big it's a big piece to chew, right, to bite off and chew. But we have to do it because let me tell you. Since our snowfall last year, Seth, it makes me want to cry.
• 53:34
  Our wildlife is gone. The snow came in so early, was so high, was so extraordinarily 60 feet in the mountains and lasted so long, the bears didn't survive it. The deer did not come back up in the mountains. The squirrels I mean, I'm talking to people at the 6,000 foot level like the bear. The bears did not return.
• 53:54
  We don't have deers. We don't have squirrels here. I'm just at the 3,000 foot level. We don't. I have not seen the raccoons, rabbits, fox.
• 54:04
  They're gone. They didn't survive it. And our bird population has just plummeted. The birds I had three years ago, we don't have today. The incredible diversity of honey bees we're down to two, three different bees just in a matter of a few years.
• 54:22
  And and it's it's a it's not just again, it's not just one thing. It's a multitude of different things happening, but it's coming from the skies. It's raining on our heads and it affects every life. It's acidifying the forest. It's acidifying the oceans.
• 54:37
  The aquatic life cannot survive. Our food is being impacted. We're consuming it. It's being lodged in our brains. And so I say to people, this is all hands on deck.
• 54:46
  And if you think that one little group, you think one organization or team that we've put together, our our attorneys are saying, uh-uh, need you need a ground swell. This is the most important thing going on right now. It trumps everything else because everything, everything that you might be trying to protect or fight for is being impacted by this.
• 55:13
  Seth Holehouse: It's it's just incredible. I mean, it's unfortunate. But I think that this again, this is why, for me, this is one of like my my top three topics that I'm most concerned about that I talk about with my wife daily as we're watching this is because it's like, yeah, as you can say, we're, you know, medical freedom and say you have a child that you have kept free of the medical system. And you're watching them play in the backyard, and they're getting that same stuff coming into them through that. And what was interesting, so we used to live in Ohio, and we moved.
• 55:47
  We're in a different region now. And in Ohio, because I I think it was a a very targeted place for weather modification, especially because it was a major crop producing region, and so they wanted to alter the food system. And but for whatever reason, the geoengineering in Ohio was so intense. And there was a period of this last summer where it was so heavy that all of us had colds and sniffles and mucus. I mean, it was like, was we started doing heavy metal detoxes because it was just it was so bad.
• 56:16
  But, like, what are you gonna do? Like, you just gotta avoid going outside. You just gotta stop playing. You gotta sacrifice not getting fresh air and not getting vitamin D and just and that's unfortunate. We did a lot.
• 56:28
  Like my wife on heavy, you know, on heavy spraying days, instead of being out in the garden, she'd be inside. And it was it was so miserable to be living a life like that.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first of all, I think there's something to be said to the testimony of the human spirit. Right? We're extraordinary. In fact, I think that if considering the bombardment everywhere from millimeter wave to, you know, all the now since COVID, all the different modems and Wi Fi's everywhere and the heavy metals and all the chemicals and glyphosates. I mean, I'm kind of shocked that we're still here.
• 57:01
  Seth Holehouse: It's amazing.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, right? And so there's that. And the thing is this is that, yes, when the cirrus clouds are being formed essentially, that's what happens when the conditions are right, it is dimming the sun. You're not getting the vitamin D, you're not getting the photosynthesis, you know, you're not getting the energy production from the solar panels. It's not good for your gardens and so on.
• 57:24
  And it's also not good mentally. But what we now know is that whether you see those extended trails or not in the sky, you're still getting sprayed. So the best thing you can do is if you have if you are growing food, try to put it into a greenhouse. If you have well water, use that to water your food and to really do detoxes. Heavy metal detoxes are also the best thing.
• 57:49
  Just you just everybody is being sprayed. It's not whether you see the the chemtrails or not, you're being sprayed. And especially on the West Coast, especially near Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, right, New York, where all the flights are coming in, far, far, far more concentrated, you know, at least at least in the Midwest, it kind of disperses out. But if you look at that map again, ADSExchange.com, you'll see when you get into Southern California, they're getting doused, absolutely doused. You spread out and, you know, it's just to move over.
• 58:21
  There you go. Mean, you pull away like that, it's everywhere. But when you zoom in, you can see the concentrate. You can see the concentration with the international airports essentially. So there you go.
• 58:30
  And yeah. There you go. And so that's day in, day out. And that stuff has just happened. Now the thing is too is understand is a lot of times though, as you get closer to the airport, you know, you're more likely it's going to drop on you.
• 58:44
  But a lot of times that stuff actually starts to move over. So it goes into Nevada. It goes into Utah. It goes into Colorado and they're getting it as well. But, you know, this is all hands on deck because I our our our trees are dying everywhere.
• 58:59
  I mean, they're dying everywhere. Catherine Saria, who is on our team and been doing the the water samples and so on and teaching people how to go out there and put their elected officials and representatives on notice was just in Colorado. And they were there a year ago. And even her husband noted the trees in just a year's time are completely dying. I mean, like dying and extraordinary number.
• 59:20
  And she says, I don't know what to do. I said, grab some tree bark. Let's test it. I can tell you right now what we're going to find. And what's really interesting, too, is that we have a cabin in the mountains in a river canyon and was very pristine just, you know, just a few years ago.
• 59:34
  And once Starlink once Starlink started, also the trees started dying. And people were saying it's from the drought. It's from the drought. It's like, no, no, no. It's not from the drought.
• 59:43
  First of we just had a record amount of snow and rain last year. And again, the trees are dying. But also before the rain and snow last year, trees along the river, on the river banks were dying. So it's not drought because they're getting they're getting moisture there. But we noticed and I found out later on that unfortunately, with all these rockets going up, they're breaking up the ozone.
• 1:00:05
  So this particulate matter we're talking about depletes the ozone layer. All of these Starlink rockets are going up. They put holes and they destroy the ozone layer. You're getting the really dangerous UV light coming through. Ever since Starlink started and I found out that Starlink will pinpoint a millimeter wave to their customers.
• 1:00:25
  But by the time it hits the ground, it's almost a mile wide. And the only thing that changed in our very pristine area was were that these these satellites. Turned on. You know, what we're facing is very much spiritual warfare. And I think over the last few generations, we've gotten a bit passive and become these kind of, you know, armchair warriors or keyboard warriors.
• 1:00:56
  And I think God, the creator, whoever you want to call it, is calling upon us to to be the extraordinary humans and sentient beings that we really are. And I have said, Seth, for many years now that when we get through this, and we will, there may be fewer of us, I don't know. But when we get through this, it is we will have no choice but to build local economies based upon restoration and healing. Because we'll have no other choice. And I'd rather we have economies based upon restoration and healing than on massive resource extraction and spraying us and poisoning us and making us sick and and making money that way and and creating wars.
• 1:01:38
  That's that's the system we're in right now. And this is going to force us to be extraordinary, which we are, I think, but we've forgotten how extraordinary we really are.
• 1:01:47
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree with that final point more. I mean, and I think it's actually it's the silver lining to all of this is that what's happening is, you know, they they talk with a great reset. I think there is a reset happening. It's it's I think it's not up to us who's in control of it. I think it's it's actually a much grander plan than that.
• 1:02:05
  I think it's actually God's plan, Ultimately, it's like, well, you know, you you forget the story that actually Satan got kicked out. Right? So he wasn't the one in charge. He got thrown out of the restaurant for for drinking and being disorderly. He wasn't the bar owner.
• 1:02:17
  Right? So, you know, so it's just this reminder of what, really who's actually in control. What I see coming out is as dark and scary as this all is, I see that it's all coming to the surface. And I see that there are so many people that are being called upon to step forward because you mentioned before that the one of the international treaties agreements that you couldn't use water water sorry, weather modification modification as a weapon of war. But the reality is is that right now, every sentient being on Earth is at war against this global elite.
• 1:02:53
  And there is a war being waged on us, but it's one that transcends borders. It transcends races. It transcends I mean, it's and so they're using this against us. And so we have to recognize that this is a war. And I think hopefully then use that to propel us to take action to say, well, wait, if we're at war, if if my country was under attack, it might just kind of sit at home and watch Fox News and Yelp TV and hope it changes, or am I gonna grab a pitchfork or grab a musket and go fight in this war to fight off, you know, fend off tyranny.
• 1:03:30
  So I do hope that I hope that more people see this for what it is, and understand just the the sinister nature of this attack, but also understand that we can do something about it. And understand that once we get through this period, once enough people do something about it, on the other side of this, I think is actually an amazing way of life. Right? It really is. Like, I think we can cast off this this evil evil empire that's run the world for a very long time and get to the other side of it where we like what you said, we're focused on restoration.
• 1:04:05
  We're focused on bringing communities back together, healing healing ourselves, our families, healing our nature, the earth, our skies, our water. And that's what gives me hope is because I'm looking I've got a three year old daughter, and I've got my wife is due literally any minute she's she's due. You know, she's call me right now and say, Seth, I'm going into labor. Get home right now, which I would. So Congratulations.
• 1:04:30
  Thank you. So I I mean, I've gotta look look to the future of these children I'm bringing into the world and say, I wanna create something for them that I wanna leave them something better than what I had. And I think that we're at a place in history where we truly can do that. And that gives me hope.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: It will you know, it's interesting, but I had a friend and she was asking how I was doing. Said, well, I'm doing this and that. And I was telling her what I was working on and she just started crying. And I said, why are you crying? She's it's just like we're doomed.
• 1:04:55
  And I said, hey, I said, what I'm talking to you about has been going on for generations. It's just that now we can see it, which means now we can identify it and do something about it. And yeah, there are what we call evil doers but I rather just call them stupid doers because it's stupid trying to destroy creation. But what they're doing right now is they're creating this momentum and it's up to us to basically pull a an aikido move and take that energy and propel it in a different direction of our desire. And that's where activism is called upon.
• 1:05:29
  And also, we don't need everybody on board. All we've ever needed for a movement to win a civil war, anything like that is 3.5% active participation from the public, whether it's a suffrage movement, civil war, anything like that, 3.5% active participation. And our objective is to reach that 3.5% and give them the tools that they need. So this is the time. And I really recommend people, again, go to save our skies, go to climateviewer.com.
• 1:06:00
  I do a lot of updates. Have rennet senhams foghorn express dot substack dot com. So if you just put Foghorn Express in the substack, you'll find me. And I do updates there as well. Geoengineering, I interview people like, like Lee, Lee from geez, Jim Lee from Climate Viewer and other people.
• 1:06:19
  And I just give people not only do I point out what's going on, but I really try to also focus on solutions. I consider myself a solutionarian. For every problem, there is a solution. All it needs is an active ingredient, which is actually our motivation and our action.
• 1:06:34
  Seth Holehouse: Well, thank you so much for finding and bringing together solutions for this. I will pull up your website one more time, and I will make sure that all these links are in the description. So the main link, the main takeaway place to go is saveourskies.org. People can sign up on the homepage. So folks, you go to either calendar up there in the top left corner.
• 1:06:55
  You have updated, or if you scroll down a little bit, you see this SOS swarm webinars every second Tuesday and fourth Wednesday of the month. I highly encourage people to join those, educate ourselves, educate ourselves with the methods we can use to educate others. I also wanna encourage people, but there's a reason why the main button is a donate now. So I would say if folks want to help fund what we're doing, which I think is one of the the most important like, you think medical freedom is important, this is it's like, whether you want medical freedom or not, this is still gonna happen unless you put it into it. So that takes you to this give, send, go right here.
• 1:07:32
  I recommend
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: That that goes towards legal fees only and also, water testings, rain sample tests, and so on, recovering those. So, yeah, that's that's an important key is also point as well.
• 1:07:45
  Robert Kiyosaki: So mhmm.
• 1:07:46
  Seth Holehouse: Perfect. Do you have any words in closing?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: No. I I just wanna I just wanna say thank you so very much. And I I you know, people can can ask right now, can I do right now? Simply share this video. Share it.
• 1:07:58
  Educate people. And, of course, bring Jim Lee on and go to climateviewer.com. It's extraordinarily extensive and that's where you really get good backed up information and and know that, you know, if we just get, you know, a few thousand people engaged, we can actually shift this. We can change this. And it's we have to do it now.
• 1:08:16
  We have to do it now. I I think this is the the ultimate call to action.
• 1:08:21
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. Well, Renette, thank you so much for coming on today. It's been a pleasure speaking with you.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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