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Saying Yes To Change · Deeply Well with Devi Brown

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well. This show is a soft place
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Speaker 1: to land on your journey. A space where we explore
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Speaker 1: what it truly means to live well from the inside out.
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Speaker 1: Not perfectly, but honestly. This is Deeply Well. Welcome back
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Speaker 1: to Deeply Well. I am your host, Devi Brown. Thank
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Speaker 1: you as always for joining us. Oh my Lord, y'all,
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Speaker 1: there is so much going on We are in, I
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Speaker 1: think I was reading somewhere today, depending on where you
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Speaker 1: hear this episode, the days are going to change a bit.
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Speaker 1: But we're somewhere around the 100-day mark until 2027, 100
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Speaker 1: days until the new year. And it just, God, the
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Speaker 1: older you get, the faster it goes. It just blows
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Speaker 1: my mind how years feel like months the older you get.
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Speaker 1: Blows my mind. And also it just gets like funny
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Speaker 1: to me how at different like age groups or different
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Speaker 1: seasons in life, like the things about the year, they
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Speaker 1: start to mean different things. Like summer was always my
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Speaker 1: favorite season, but now I would say fall is like,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not even a pumpkin spice person. But I
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Speaker 1: just love the moodiness of it and the freshness of it.
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Speaker 1: And so I've been diving, I have been diving into
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Speaker 1: the senses lately. I've been thinking so much about our
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Speaker 1: senses and so much about seasons and, you know, just
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Speaker 1: the creativity within which we can bring ourselves back to life.
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Speaker 1: Like we get such an opportunity to do that. as
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Speaker 1: we change the guard for every new season. So as
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Speaker 1: we're kind of creeping into fall, and if you are
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Speaker 1: an astrology girly like me, been into it since, my God,
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Speaker 1: at least the last 25 years, I've been really seriously
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Speaker 1: into it. We just got off of some major eclipse seasons. Y'all,
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Speaker 1: I'm just ready for something different. When I was reading
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Speaker 1: today how it's 100 days until 2027, I was thinking
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Speaker 1: back to the top of 2026. And this year is
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Speaker 1: the year of, in Chinese New Year, it's the year
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Speaker 1: of the fire horse. And I was thinking about all
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Speaker 1: the symbolism that was so closely connected with that at
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Speaker 1: the top of the year and how there are interpretations
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Speaker 1: we don't know or don't have until the year starts
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Speaker 1: to play out. So I think for those that are
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Speaker 1: into astrology, we know that this is a very spicy, spicy, spicy,
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Speaker 1: potent year of change. Just so many transits and changes
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Speaker 1: and bringing out a lot of intense energies. I mean,
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Speaker 1: but really, when is it not like that? While being alive, right?
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Speaker 1: Last year felt very similarly. But I remember at the
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Speaker 1: top of the year, I'm reading about year of the
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Speaker 1: fire horse, and I was thinking a couple of days ago,
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what? Like this, this horse
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Speaker 1: burned my ass up. The year of the fire horse
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Speaker 1: for me has been less of like fast chariot energy
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Speaker 1: and more of like, let me light that ass up.
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Speaker 1: So it's been so, it's just so interesting. I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, if you listen to the show and of course,
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Speaker 1: if you've read my book, I'm a grief and joy girly.
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Speaker 1: I accept that both are true. I live that truth.
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Speaker 1: I integrate it as much as I can. And, you know,
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Speaker 1: like many of us, I have a life that has
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Speaker 1: a ton of grief and challenge and my God, an
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Speaker 1: immense amount of miraculous energy and joy, like just unparalleled.
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Speaker 1: And I am firmly set in the center of both again.
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Speaker 1: Very similarly to the way I felt in 2020. So
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that too. Like I remember before
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Speaker 1: we went into lockdown, we were getting into 2020. And
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Speaker 1: I remember I was doing some work with Karma Gang
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Speaker 1: and we were going to start, I was going to
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Speaker 1: do this retreat and it was going to be called
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Speaker 1: 2020 Vision. And then the pandemic happened and what the
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Speaker 1: hell was that? Even though I do miss it a little, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I miss, I'm a homebody and I miss when everybody
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Speaker 1: was a homebody. Yeah. But yeah, it's just so interesting.
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Speaker 1: There is potent, potent, potent change afoot in the air
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Speaker 1: in so many, many ways. And yeah, we got to
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Speaker 1: accept it. We got to surrender to it. I personally
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Speaker 1: am in like a really awful go of it this
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Speaker 1: year and a really good go of it. It's so confusing, right?
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Speaker 1: There's so many hard and amazing things happening at once.
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Speaker 1: And then, you know, when I get in that kind
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Speaker 1: of tizzy, I like to return and remind myself that
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Speaker 1: life is all about not necessarily balancing either, but just
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Speaker 1: harmonizing both, allowing space for both and then seeing what
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Speaker 1: comes next. So that is the kind of energy that
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of coming into the fall with, that I'm
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Speaker 1: walking in life with, that I'm exploring and It's really interesting. Lately,
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Speaker 1: I've been getting very, very, very into Substack. I am
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Speaker 1: loving Substack. And I'm trying to find even more ways
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Speaker 1: to add more there in a way that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Because to be quite honest, to grow and build your Substack,
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Speaker 1: it is a calling of the heart. Finding time for
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Speaker 1: it to build something non-lucrative in this day and age,
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Speaker 1: it's you got to love it and you got to
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Speaker 1: have intention and you got to have process. And so
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Speaker 1: I've been really falling in love with it there and
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Speaker 1: trying to find more things that I want to share there.
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Speaker 1: And I'm really looking to honestly, potentially like not being
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Speaker 1: anywhere else on social, maybe within the next year. We'll see.
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Speaker 1: Y'all know I'm a reclusive queen. So yeah, I just
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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to be for the world anymore. Um,
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Speaker 1: so anyway, I've been thinking about Substack and it's been
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Speaker 1: really fun sharing things in a fuller way there with
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Speaker 1: a little more context and a little more opportunity to
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Speaker 1: storytell past, present, and future. And so I, I put
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Speaker 1: an article up a few weeks ago about friendship. Um,
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Speaker 1: and what was the, what did we title that article? Um,
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Speaker 1: we titled it, I love you and this, this relationship
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Speaker 1: is not for me anymore. The article is titled, I
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Speaker 1: love you and the relationship is not for me anymore.
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Speaker 1: And we went deeper in that article based on a
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Speaker 1: podcast episode that I did a few weeks ago, um,
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Speaker 1: answering Q and A's and specifically answering a question on
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Speaker 1: how do you know if it's time to leave a
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Speaker 1: relationship or if you've outgrown someone or how do you
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Speaker 1: let yourself even consider that, especially if it is someone
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Speaker 1: that you have known for a long time or has
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Speaker 1: been in many seasons of your life. And so the
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Speaker 1: response to that article was so big. And it was
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Speaker 1: such a reminder that so many of us collectively are
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Speaker 1: really experiencing similar themes this year that definitely lean into
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Speaker 1: the themes of what eclipse season was, of Even that
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Speaker 1: firehorse energy, like what needs to burn fast? That's how
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Speaker 1: I've been taking it because I have needed to burn
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Speaker 1: things quickly in my life this year and let some
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Speaker 1: bridges just ignite. And also I know historically that like
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Speaker 1: if that's the season that you're in, just say yes.
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Speaker 1: Just say yes to it. You don't have to understand
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Speaker 1: how it's going to pan out. You don't have to
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Speaker 1: have the solves, the solutions. Um, you don't even have
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Speaker 1: to light the match, just say yes. And so seeing
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Speaker 1: some of the responses, uh, was really, really eyeopening for me. Um,
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Speaker 1: and that these are things that I think we don't
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Speaker 1: talk about enough, you know, often there, there are, or
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Speaker 1: maybe talk about enough outside of ourselves and our gripes.
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Speaker 1: I'll say that. Um, Because when you think about the
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Speaker 1: ways that people used to learn how to be human,
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Speaker 1: how to be adults, how to interact really with society, right?
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Speaker 1: Like I love those like back in the day books
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Speaker 1: and I collect some of them like, you know, like
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Speaker 1: the ones that are, you know, how to manners, you know,
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Speaker 1: rules and manners, like those kind of like old timey
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Speaker 1: books or books that were more related to, you know,
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Speaker 1: this is how you prepare a home. This is how
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Speaker 1: you fix your car. This is all the things that
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Speaker 1: like teach us, right? If we don't have that directly.
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Speaker 1: So like in that sense, you know, I think old,
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Speaker 1: older books and advice columns and things like that really
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Speaker 1: kind of leaned into like the bigger generalized advice about
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Speaker 1: maybe foundational behavior or about how to actually technically do
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Speaker 1: or create something. But we need guides about the nuance
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Speaker 1: of connections. Um, we need guides about navigating and growing wisdom,
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Speaker 1: you know, um, And I think that's where I really
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Speaker 1: landed with thinking about that Substack article. It's like we
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Speaker 1: don't always know that we even have a right to
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Speaker 1: choose the kind of relationship we're in with people, the
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Speaker 1: right to be acquaintances if we want to and nothing
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Speaker 1: more than that, or the right to say no to
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Speaker 1: an offer of new friendship just as easily as we
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Speaker 1: can say no to an offer of a date with
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Speaker 1: someone we're not interested in. And also all the reasons
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Speaker 1: that that doesn't have to mean anything significant about you
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Speaker 1: or them. It doesn't have to be judgment that something's
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Speaker 1: wrong with that person or wrong with you. It's just
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Speaker 1: we get to make these choices and then we learn
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Speaker 1: and grow and decide based on the choices that we make,
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Speaker 1: you know, that will come, but we all deserve our
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Speaker 1: own lives. And I think after kind of reading through
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Speaker 1: like the comments on that article and some of the
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Speaker 1: discourse around it, one, I just, I love this for
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Speaker 1: all of us that we get to slow down enough
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Speaker 1: to recalibrate and investigate what our agreements are with ourselves
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Speaker 1: and with other people. I think it's also really special
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Speaker 1: to know that once we unleash that quality within ourselves
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Speaker 1: and can do that with one thing, we then open
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Speaker 1: up the ability to do it with absolutely everything, with
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Speaker 1: so many things in our lives. And so as we're
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Speaker 1: thinking about what is the right fit for who I
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Speaker 1: am and my life right now, it's like, yeah, in
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Speaker 1: all the ways. I've been thinking about that with absolutely everything.
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Speaker 1: I went through the season of thinking about that with friendship.
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Speaker 1: I've been in seasons of thinking about that, you know,
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Speaker 1: with closer relationships, with work, with the way like my
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Speaker 1: day flows with absolutely everything. And that is truly my
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Speaker 1: intention for this season of my life is I want
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Speaker 1: to be in right relationship with absolutely everything. I want
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Speaker 1: to be in right relationship with friendships, with colleagues, in
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Speaker 1: right relationship with my mornings. I want to be in
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Speaker 1: right relationship with work. I want to be in right
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Speaker 1: relationship with myself. I want to be in right relationship
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Speaker 1: with my dreams. And I'm noticing in this season of
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Speaker 1: my life how much my dreams are wrapped up in
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Speaker 1: doing less, wanting to do less. I'm dreaming of doing less. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. So this can be a really good time
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Speaker 1: to investigate that because we're in fall. So we have
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Speaker 1: about a quarter and then we move into winter and
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Speaker 1: winter is, as I usually talk about yearly, winter is
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Speaker 1: naturally hibernation. It's not the go hard or go home time.
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Speaker 1: It's really the time to rest in your ideas and
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Speaker 1: let yourself kind of nourish and complete certain cycles and
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Speaker 1: then really get ready for spring. So as we are
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Speaker 1: entering fall right this moment, start to think about some
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Speaker 1: of those questions I'm asking aloud. Where are you in
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Speaker 1: wrong relationship in your life? What about your life in
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Speaker 1: the most finite way should be allowed to change? And
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Speaker 1: I think also notice that in terms of developmentally where
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Speaker 1: you're at in your age, because there are certain things
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Speaker 1: that we have a natural disposition and an energy and
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Speaker 1: a momentum to depending on what decade we're in, right?
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Speaker 1: So if you're in your 20s, this may not be
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Speaker 1: your decade for rest, right? This is your decade of experimentation,
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Speaker 1: of having the opportunity to kind of pick and choose
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Speaker 1: and not take any one thing too, too seriously to
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Speaker 1: give yourself the opportunity to change your mind a lot,
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Speaker 1: to really just experiment and create with friends, with work,
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Speaker 1: with school, with home, with adult life. I think your
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Speaker 1: 30s are when you start to really go hard, like hard, hard.
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Speaker 1: Not just I'm exhausted hard, like in your 20s, but
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Speaker 1: you add in a lot more lived experience and strategy
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Speaker 1: in your 30s. So you really get to start to
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Speaker 1: There's a different level of maturity inside of you and
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Speaker 1: a different level of life practice that now exists in you.
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Speaker 1: You have muscle memory for a lot of things. It's
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Speaker 1: the chance to be kind of still, if you're like
15:06
Speaker 1: in corporate settings, like young but powerful, your chance to
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Speaker 1: still take a few more reckless choices because there's some
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Speaker 1: time to catch up. And then in your 40s, I
15:18
Speaker 1: think if you've been kind of already working pretty hard
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Speaker 1: and you get a chance to kind of recalibrate yourself
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Speaker 1: in a way that work should also really be working
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Speaker 1: for you too. And you can get very creative because
15:35
Speaker 1: now you have like two decades or more of work
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Speaker 1: history under your belt, a friendship history under your belt,
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Speaker 1: of romantic experiences under your belt, that at this age
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Speaker 1: you should be starting to really mine your wisdom and
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Speaker 1: take advantage of the privilege of having so much lived
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Speaker 1: experience and potentially contacts or opportunities and communities that you
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Speaker 1: can kind of maneuver within and pull from. And you
16:11
Speaker 1: also definitely really have even more of an opportunity than
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Speaker 1: in your 30s to uplift others and to bring people
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Speaker 1: with you and give others opportunity and to Be wise
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Speaker 1: counsel for people. I think everyone in their 20s deserves
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Speaker 1: to have a safe friend, a safe, wise friend in
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Speaker 1: their 30s and their 40s. I think everyone in their
16:46
Speaker 1: 30s deserves a safe, wise friend in their 40s and
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Speaker 1: in their 50s. and beyond and beyond and beyond. I'm
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Speaker 1: one of those people that has very multi-generational friendships and always,
16:58
Speaker 1: always have. So I have friends in 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s,
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Speaker 1: even 90s. And I just get so much out of that.
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Speaker 1: I love that. And I love all the ways that
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Speaker 1: I get to grow and become more of myself and
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Speaker 1: from those different layers and mirrors and generations. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think starting to look at that for each of
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Speaker 1: us this fall, so that you can really sit with
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Speaker 1: it this winter, and then potentially be in deep experimentation
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Speaker 1: and new beginning. with all of it by this spring.
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Speaker 1: It could be a very, very useful and important way
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Speaker 1: to start looking ahead at your life. So subscribe on Substack.
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Speaker 1: I say all that to say, because I want to
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Speaker 1: get even more into the nuances. My Substack, if you
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Speaker 1: don't know, it's called Self-Care Simplified. And That's really how
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Speaker 1: I look at all of this. Like the work of boundaries,
18:13
Speaker 1: the work of, um, self-actualization, personal, personal growth, the work
18:19
Speaker 1: of mindfulness, the work of tools and practices and all
18:22
Speaker 1: of it, all of it, all of it is an
18:25
Speaker 1: ecosystem that feeds itself in your life. All of it
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Speaker 1: is self-care and all of it is worthy of being
18:32
Speaker 1: like demystified and simplified. So you can actually see, um,
18:37
Speaker 1: the practical and modern application of all of it into
18:42
Speaker 1: absolutely your everyday life. So you can live it. You
18:45
Speaker 1: can be it. You can integrate and embody it. So
18:49
Speaker 1: that is what's happening over there. A couple other things
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about. My son just started third grade.
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Speaker 1: He's eight years old. It is such a pleasure raising
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Speaker 1: an eight-year-old. We're having so much fun. And I'm just so,
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Speaker 1: I feel so like, I'm always like this, but I just,
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Speaker 1: I feel so excited about my son. Like I just
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Speaker 1: enjoy him so much. And like some of the ways
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Speaker 1: his like personality and who he is and his interests
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Speaker 1: are just evolving and springing to life. And it's just,
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Speaker 1: it is so damn cool and so inspiring. And I'm
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Speaker 1: so lucky and grateful that I have him. And I
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Speaker 1: have this space in my own mind and my heart
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Speaker 1: to really give it all to him and, yeah, be
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Speaker 1: slowly present deeply. present with him, um, and observant and
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Speaker 1: witnessing to all that he is. It's, it's the best y'all.
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Speaker 1: It is the best. Um, yeah. So that's been, that's
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Speaker 1: been really, really, really, really sweet. It's been interesting too,
20:05
Speaker 1: cause he doesn't get a ton of, um, screen time,
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Speaker 1: like he gets to use his iPad to talk to
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Speaker 1: two friends from school and play this one math game
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Speaker 1: for about 45 minutes on Friday. And that's kind of it.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm even going to keep
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Speaker 1: that going. I want him to be able to understand
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Speaker 1: technology and interact with his peers in a way that
20:38
Speaker 1: they're interacting. I don't want him to be behind there.
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Speaker 1: And at the same time, even that little bit of
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Speaker 1: screen access has added a lot of stress. I'm really
20:49
Speaker 1: interested to look up some of that. I know there's
20:52
Speaker 1: studies and articles on it. So I want to dive
20:55
Speaker 1: into some of that actually this weekend. But It's fascinating
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Speaker 1: how quickly that can shape a brain and how like
21:07
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and even upset and anxiety ridden or frustrated that
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Speaker 1: makes a young person's brain just so fast. So I'm
21:17
Speaker 1: not digging that. So I might be going over those agreements.
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Speaker 1: But it's just interesting to see. And I'm curious to
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Speaker 1: know for any other parents listening, like, Just how they're
21:27
Speaker 1: navigating that, what they think maybe the benefit of the
21:32
Speaker 1: trade-off is. Because I do also understand as parents sometimes,
21:35
Speaker 1: you need a little screen help. You might need some
21:39
Speaker 1: help or something to hold their attention, especially when out
21:44
Speaker 1: and about or if you're needing to do things. Definitely
21:47
Speaker 1: get that. And this is their only brain. We do
21:52
Speaker 1: have to make sure we are doing our due diligence.
21:56
Speaker 1: to know the effect these things that we're giving them
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Speaker 1: that they think they want, but they don't really know
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Speaker 1: what's happening. So we don't fully have their consent for
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Speaker 1: what it could do. We need to be on top
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Speaker 1: of that and we need to be vetting those things.
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Speaker 1: So that's something that is just kind of like always
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Speaker 1: on my mind. I've been learning a lot as a
22:19
Speaker 1: teacher this month. in ways that have been really cool.
22:24
Speaker 1: I had this opportunity to teach and do this really
22:27
Speaker 1: amazing retreat with this company, Figs. Shout out to everybody
22:34
Speaker 1: in healthcare that was already up on knowing how amazing
22:38
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22:44
Speaker 1: by this company and their leadership working with them and
22:47
Speaker 1: how much and how deeply they truly authentically care about
22:54
Speaker 1: healthcare professionals and how much resource they are willing to
22:59
Speaker 1: put behind that care. Like they really put their money
23:02
Speaker 1: where their mouth is. I went to this just exceptional
23:07
Speaker 1: retreat that they put together for a hundred or so
23:10
Speaker 1: of their ambassadors, which is pretty much all corners of
23:14
Speaker 1: the healthcare field, from surgeons and general doctors to nurses
23:20
Speaker 1: to caretakers, just absolutely everyone in the field. And we
23:26
Speaker 1: have this incredible retreat in Ojai, which is in California
23:30
Speaker 1: near Santa Barbara, for those that aren't familiar. And I just,
23:35
Speaker 1: I taught for a few days, nervous system regulation, meditation,
23:39
Speaker 1: and there is nothing I love more than reverse engineering,
23:44
Speaker 1: like barriers to this work. And we got to get
23:47
Speaker 1: into the fibers and I just met so many incredible
23:51
Speaker 1: people that are doing so much for all of us.
23:55
Speaker 1: They convene literally from all over the country and from
23:59
Speaker 1: all over the globe. There were people traveling in from
24:02
Speaker 1: so many other continents. And to just get to really
24:05
Speaker 1: know and learn and understand more about this group of
24:12
Speaker 1: human beings that give all of us so much that
24:15
Speaker 1: we go to in crisis, in fear, in emergency, and
24:21
Speaker 1: to really get to know them and what they walk
24:24
Speaker 1: with and what they need. It was just so amazing.
24:28
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I loved it. I loved it. I
24:29
Speaker 1: loved it. I love to teach and I love to learn. Yeah,
24:35
Speaker 1: so that was amazing. And then I loved all the
24:38
Speaker 1: gear that I got too. That The Figs gear, though
24:41
Speaker 1: I am not a healthcare professional, you will see me
24:43
Speaker 1: wearing it on all my flights. You'll see me wearing
24:46
Speaker 1: it to drop off, especially their compression socks. Like, ah,
24:52
Speaker 1: so good. So that was really special this month. And yeah,
24:58
Speaker 1: I just love getting in there. And then we brought
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Speaker 1: Wellness Oasis to London this month, which was insane. Insane.
25:09
Speaker 1: For those that know, I'm the chief impact officer and
25:12
Speaker 1: the host and a partner in Wellness Oasis with my very, very, very,
25:17
Speaker 1: very dear friend and also my agent, Jared Schoenfeld. And
25:22
Speaker 1: he has created this community, this just beautiful platform of
25:29
Speaker 1: deep learning and experience. We've been doing this since 2023.
25:35
Speaker 1: We have the amazing, we've had some just amazing experiences
25:40
Speaker 1: at Cannes every year, at Art Basel every year, and
25:43
Speaker 1: we've done some pop-ups in New York and Austin and
25:47
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And we've curated these rooms and communities of
25:52
Speaker 1: people that are taking understanding of well-being, longevity, wellness, mental health,
26:01
Speaker 1: mental illness, to deeper levels. Like we get really into
26:05
Speaker 1: the nuance. We have some incredibly special people that join
26:08
Speaker 1: us and just conversations that are mind-blowingly expansive and a
26:13
Speaker 1: lot of activation so that you can really try and
26:16
Speaker 1: test out tools for nervous system regulation, tools for health,
26:22
Speaker 1: tools for peace. And so we brought that for the
26:27
Speaker 1: very first time to London. I actually just got back
26:29
Speaker 1: a few days ago and it was exceptional. And one
26:33
Speaker 1: of the things that we were in partnership with Buckman Philanthropies,
26:38
Speaker 1: which is this incredible philanthropic arm led by Daria Buckman,
26:44
Speaker 1: where they are just looking to deeply serve women and
26:48
Speaker 1: children in emotional health and other arms of wellness. And
26:53
Speaker 1: so they partnered with us on this really, really special launch.
26:58
Speaker 1: And We had a few hundred people come out. I
27:01
Speaker 1: was able to speak with so many wonderful voices in
27:04
Speaker 1: the space and friends in the space. I had Emma
27:09
Speaker 1: Greed joined us actually as a surprise fireside chat with
27:13
Speaker 1: me that we did. And I really enjoyed it. And
27:17
Speaker 1: I know that there were all these soundbites about things
27:20
Speaker 1: she had said about motherhood that had been kind of
27:22
Speaker 1: circulating the internet that I heard. And in this conversation,
27:25
Speaker 1: she and I actually were able to go a lot
27:27
Speaker 1: deeper in her love for her children and in her
27:31
Speaker 1: philosophy on parenting. And I was just, I was really,
27:35
Speaker 1: really moved. She's a really authentic woman, obviously incredibly strategic
27:41
Speaker 1: and successful and just brilliant. And I was really, really
27:44
Speaker 1: moved by that conversation and the genuineness and the authenticity
27:50
Speaker 1: of like the very deep, real work that she's done
27:54
Speaker 1: on herself. So we started the morning. My day was from,
27:57
Speaker 1: I think I did interviews from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.,
28:01
Speaker 1: which is a long day. But I really wasn't tired.
28:06
Speaker 1: And it just reminded me, I kind of activated all
28:11
Speaker 1: the muscle memory from my FM radio days and hosting
28:14
Speaker 1: concerts and events and just having those really kind of
28:17
Speaker 1: long days where you're in it and but it was amazing.
28:22
Speaker 1: It was amazing. So we also had a great panel
28:25
Speaker 1: about overcoming self-doubt, which we had with Africa Brooke, with
28:29
Speaker 1: Vex King and Dr. Sarah Kubrick, also known as the
28:32
Speaker 1: millennial therapist. We had emotional intelligence panel with Dr. Mark Brackett,
28:41
Speaker 1: with Dr. Julie Smith, with Sarenda Swan. We did a
28:45
Speaker 1: men's panel with Jason Fox, Bobby Rich, Jordan Stevens. We
28:50
Speaker 1: did a science panel with Dan Buettner from the Blue Zones,
28:55
Speaker 1: with Dr. Dawn Musalem, who is just a mind-blowingly inspiring woman,
29:02
Speaker 1: and Dr. Tara Swart. And then we did this really
29:05
Speaker 1: amazing women's health conversation with Dr. Natalie Crawford, with Dr.
29:10
Speaker 1: Stacey Sims, and Dr. Hazel Wallace. And I also had
29:14
Speaker 1: this amazing fireside chat with renowned athlete, soccer player, Alex Scott.
29:21
Speaker 1: And she is brilliant, based in the UK and just
29:27
Speaker 1: an absolute legend in the UK and in soccer globally.
29:31
Speaker 1: But I love when I get to sit with people
29:36
Speaker 1: who have done the work in really deep stories. ways.
29:41
Speaker 1: So we have this really powerful talk about boundaries and
29:46
Speaker 1: about what it takes to kind of say yes to
29:49
Speaker 1: your new beginning that's uncertain, especially after you've had a
29:54
Speaker 1: lot of success in something else that's now complete. So
29:58
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that a lot. Also, to be honest,
30:02
Speaker 1: I just really love London, y'all. It was my second
30:07
Speaker 1: time back in the last couple of years. And there's
30:11
Speaker 1: this really, for anybody that loves to travel, I got
30:14
Speaker 1: to put you on, cannot keep this hotel. I think
30:17
Speaker 1: it just opened this year. It's called St. Clement's Hotel.
30:20
Speaker 1: It's in central London. Thank me later. Book there. It is,
30:27
Speaker 1: as someone that, travels a ton, takes like 45 flights
30:30
Speaker 1: a year. And especially I travel and I stay at
30:33
Speaker 1: a lot of like wellness styled properties. I have to
30:37
Speaker 1: say this is one of the favorite places I have
30:40
Speaker 1: ever stayed in my life, any country, any city. It
30:46
Speaker 1: was so nourishing, so nourishing. And I felt so cared
30:53
Speaker 1: for because one thing that I can't stand in life
30:55
Speaker 1: right now is constantly being overcharged, especially when it's like unwarranted,
31:01
Speaker 1: like constantly having fake, exorbitant prices put on things, like
31:07
Speaker 1: having just like, I don't know, capitalism has been on
31:13
Speaker 1: a million the last couple of years. And so like
31:16
Speaker 1: having an experience there that was so comforting and nourishing
31:21
Speaker 1: and like decadent, but generous, they had like this huge
31:25
Speaker 1: medicine cabinet in the bathroom. The bathrooms are gorgeous, huge tubs.
31:30
Speaker 1: You already know I had Epsom salt. I was taking baths.
31:34
Speaker 1: I opened the medicine cabinet and it was filled with
31:37
Speaker 1: all of these full-sized products and everything you could ever
31:41
Speaker 1: hope to have in a bathroom. And when I was
31:44
Speaker 1: walked in and kind of shown around, the gentleman who
31:49
Speaker 1: was showing me from the hotel was like, oh, and
31:51
Speaker 1: just so you know, Everything in the medicine cabinet, it's yours.
31:55
Speaker 1: It's free. Use all of it. And if you want extras,
31:58
Speaker 1: we'll bring them. And I was like, that's my love language.
32:03
Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, just all the snacks, everything. It
32:05
Speaker 1: was like stuff you didn't have to think about. The
32:08
Speaker 1: quality was amazing. And you just felt deeply cared for.
32:12
Speaker 1: And in this day and age where pricing can be
32:16
Speaker 1: so exorbitantly overpriced, Or even, you know, sometimes when you're
32:21
Speaker 1: doing rentals and it's like they're charging you a fortune
32:25
Speaker 1: and then you're also being asked to like clean it
32:27
Speaker 1: from top to bottom before you check out. Having that
32:31
Speaker 1: traditional lost art of an experience of having phenomenal hospitality
32:38
Speaker 1: and being treated fairly for great quality. Listen, that's what
32:45
Speaker 1: I'm on. That is what I am on right now.
32:49
Speaker 1: And so it was really, it just was really nourishing
32:52
Speaker 1: staying there. So highly recommend it. Anybody that wants to go, unfortunately,
32:57
Speaker 1: I don't have a code and I'm not getting paid
32:59
Speaker 1: to say any of this, but I love it. And
33:01
Speaker 1: if it kind of fits your vibe, I hope you'll
33:04
Speaker 1: enjoy it when you go. But I've been getting a
33:07
Speaker 1: lot of people to ask me, how can I participate
33:09
Speaker 1: in Wellness Oasis, either as a volunteer, to attend as
33:14
Speaker 1: a guest, or to even be a speaker? And so
33:17
Speaker 1: I say, please check out where we're going to be.
33:21
Speaker 1: Go to Wellness Oasis, search it online, 4badvisory. com, and you'll
33:26
Speaker 1: be able to see where our next setups are going
33:29
Speaker 1: to be, where we're going to be in the world.
33:31
Speaker 1: And then there is space on there to inquire. So
33:34
Speaker 1: I highly, highly, highly suggest you do that as we
33:37
Speaker 1: get ready to move forward with the three days that
33:41
Speaker 1: we're going to be launching at Art Basel in Miami
33:45
Speaker 1: this year, which is in December. So throwing that out there,
33:49
Speaker 1: because I know I have a lot of people, a
33:52
Speaker 1: lot of folks have reached out. And so you should
33:55
Speaker 1: come check it out. It's really, really, really special. Also,
33:59
Speaker 1: if you're going to be in the New York or
34:01
Speaker 1: tri-state area, October 10th, currently the year is 2026. So
34:07
Speaker 1: October 10th, I'll be joining my brother, Charlemagne the God,
34:12
Speaker 1: at the Mental Wealth Expo. He and I have been
34:16
Speaker 1: programming this year. We are both going to be hosting.
34:18
Speaker 1: This is for his incredible nonprofit called the Mental Wealth Alliance.
34:23
Speaker 1: I've been a founding board member on there for the
34:26
Speaker 1: last six years. This expo blows my mind every year.
34:30
Speaker 1: We have phenomenal speakers, and we're doing it workshop style.
34:34
Speaker 1: So we usually bring in, over the last five years,
34:38
Speaker 1: 3,000 to 5,000 people join us. We're doing it at
34:44
Speaker 1: the Joan and Diane Bloom Wellness Center Stadium in New Jersey.
34:52
Speaker 1: Also just go to the Mental Wealth Expo to look
34:59
Speaker 1: up all the details for sure. They're also on my
35:02
Speaker 1: Instagram page. But I'm really excited at the conversations that
35:06
Speaker 1: we're going to be having there. We have amazing minds
35:08
Speaker 1: joining us. We have Kier Gaines. We have Dr. Jay Barnett.
35:13
Speaker 1: We have Dr. Elliot Connie, Dr. Rita Walker. We have Dr.
35:18
Speaker 1: Iyanla Van Zandt is going to be joining us this
35:21
Speaker 1: year on stage. Dr. Julius Thomas. We have my friends
35:25
Speaker 1: Jovian Zane, who has an amazing new book that's out.
35:28
Speaker 1: We have my friend Koya Webb, who's going to be
35:31
Speaker 1: joining us. Just the list goes on and on and on,
35:34
Speaker 1: but we're doing full workshops to actually learn and grow
35:38
Speaker 1: and have time to practice tools. We're gonna have meditation,
35:42
Speaker 1: we're gonna have breath work, we're gonna have deep conversations
35:45
Speaker 1: about the realities of mental illness, the realities of caregiving,
35:49
Speaker 1: the realities of mental health and incarceration. We're gonna have
35:53
Speaker 1: conversations about the community, about self-care, nervous system regulation, It's
35:59
Speaker 1: going to be incredibly, incredibly special. So I hope to
36:02
Speaker 1: see some of you out there listening there. Please stop
36:06
Speaker 1: me if you come. Would love to meet you. And
36:09
Speaker 1: I'm really just excited about... I am an in real
36:13
Speaker 1: life person. And that is also like what my skill
36:18
Speaker 1: set really leans into as someone that started working in
36:22
Speaker 1: the community young and just doing radio and broadcasting really
36:26
Speaker 1: young and, you know, just being... truly out and about
36:31
Speaker 1: and in the streets and with the people, like that
36:33
Speaker 1: has been my motivation my whole life in any career
36:36
Speaker 1: that I've been in. And so it's been really beautiful
36:41
Speaker 1: seeing how much, once again, that is valued. And so
36:46
Speaker 1: I have been just feeling so alive out teaching in
36:52
Speaker 1: the world. So excited to do more of that. Hope
36:55
Speaker 1: to see you at these events. Check out the sub stack.
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37:05
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