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The One About The Worm With A Mustache · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hey, babes, it is La Lac Kent. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the Give Them La Lac podcast. We are going into
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  Speaker 1: a Banner Humbles vander bumb Rules Reunion Part two tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Jessica, you watched Reunion Part one.
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  Speaker 2: I watched Reunion Part one at like five am, and
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  Speaker 2: it just it was like my coffee for the day.
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  Speaker 1: It was it. It put you on time.
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  Speaker 2: So good? You just I mean I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Was I giving you life?
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  Speaker 2: You were giving me life? I kind of I said
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't going to look at socials the night before,
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  Speaker 2: but I did. Anyway, you're trending on Twitter. You've been
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  Speaker 2: training like and I know why you were so good.
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  Speaker 1: I was so good.
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  Speaker 2: We want to hear all your thought.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when I watched it, which they they send it
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  Speaker 1: to us usually, I want to say like five days before,
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  Speaker 1: so I had seen it, which the extended version that's unedited,
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  Speaker 1: the one that we saw is on Peacock now, so
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  Speaker 1: I have to watch that. And I think that they're
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  Speaker 1: doing that with all three reunions amazing. So you'll see
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  Speaker 1: it tonight and then tomorrow you'll be able to watch
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  Speaker 1: like the un uncut un filtered. Yeah, we say that Ford,
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  Speaker 1: but I overall I thought it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It was so good. This is a hack for people
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  Speaker 1: Sling is great. I'm so happy you have that subscription
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  Speaker 1: that you allow me to use.
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  Speaker 2: You guys, you can watch this at six pm on
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  Speaker 2: the West coast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the you get the East host feet
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  Speaker 1: Because for me, when a show comes on at nine,
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired. That means that it ends at ten and
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  Speaker 1: then my mind's all discombobulated. I cannot slip it into
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  Speaker 1: like a rem cycle after.
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  Speaker 2: You sure can't.
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  Speaker 1: No, but my biggest thing right now, so I go
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  Speaker 1: through different shows when I decide to fall asleep right Like,
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  Speaker 1: for a really long time, it was like only Friends,
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  Speaker 1: then it was only Seinfeld. Now I'm falling asleep to
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  Speaker 1: I started at season one of Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on season four now. But I'm like it like
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  Speaker 1: puts me to bed. That's not because it's boring. It
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  Speaker 1: comforts me, right, there's something about other people doing what
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  Speaker 1: I do that but it doesn't have to do with me.
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  Speaker 1: That makes me feel at ease, like I'm not the
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  Speaker 1: only one that's chosen to liket like this.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good like. Yes, obviously you can have that viewpoint,
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  Speaker 2: which many of us can't because you guys do the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. Yes, yeah, you all do.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to jump into this very quickly because
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about. Okay, Vannerbump Rules, Part
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  Speaker 1: one of the Reunion. I woke up. I went to
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  Speaker 1: bed the night before at like six pm, right, so
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  Speaker 1: I was probably asleep by seven. I had to wake up,
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  Speaker 1: and production kept saying, hey, we need you there at seven,
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  Speaker 1: Hey actually eight, actually seven fifteen actually six thirty am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just making up shit. It was back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: It was just back and forth, and I felt badly.
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  Speaker 1: I did my own makeup, and I always do my
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  Speaker 1: own glam, but for Bradley who does my hair, because
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  Speaker 1: I kept changing it up on him. So finally I
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  Speaker 1: was like, we're done here. I'm waking up at four thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Have him come at the normal time. I get a
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  Speaker 1: group text while Bradley is doing my hair in that text,
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  Speaker 1: it's me Arianna. Sheina Katie James. Okay, We're going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth talking about the rats and a text comes
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  Speaker 1: through from Ariana saying, well, my hair girl just canceled
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  Speaker 1: on me and she's sick. You know there's nothing you
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  Speaker 1: can do when you're sick. Like, I totally understand, and
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  Speaker 1: also like I don't want you doing my hair if
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  Speaker 1: you are sick. But like the timing kind of sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Thank god that the universe. Remember, everything's the universe, everything's science.
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  Speaker 1: The two completely different things, right, how can you believe
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  Speaker 1: in both? Well, I do you do the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I did not have Bradley come later. I just had
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  Speaker 1: him come at the same time, even though my call
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  Speaker 1: time got later. I was like, Arianna, I'm having Bradley
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  Speaker 1: come to your house after. Do you need any hair?
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  Speaker 1: She was like, I don't have hair, so I sent
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  Speaker 1: Bradley with my shorter extensions. No, she wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: the glass look, and I'm like, I will be damned
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  Speaker 1: if my girl goes in here with this bomb dress.
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  Speaker 1: It is her moment. She is like a live her
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  Speaker 1: best life, and she got a botched glass hair job.
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  Speaker 2: I it was such a beautiful moment because the second
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  Speaker 2: I saw that or the second you said that text
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  Speaker 2: came in because I'm just sitting there on the couch
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  Speaker 2: watching you get your hair done. You were solution mode.
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  Speaker 2: What time is it, Bradley, can you go? Bradley was
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  Speaker 2: all game. He's like, absolutely, I'm gonna be there. Here's
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  Speaker 2: my hair. It was beautiful. You guys figured it out
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  Speaker 2: and within minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Figured it out. I think I almost would have allowed
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  Speaker 1: him to abort mission on my hair and it just
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  Speaker 1: done slick fun because that's all I know how to
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  Speaker 1: do with my own hair and punted him over to her.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it looked amazing your makeup, And I know I
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  Speaker 2: told you this on the morning of, but I saw
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  Speaker 2: some tweets about it stunning exact, okay, your fucking attitude.
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  Speaker 1: It did.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're not here to play around, cat. I I'm
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  Speaker 2: coming at you with my claws. It was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I find that at the reunion you have to look
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  Speaker 1: extremely classy because the second you owe in your mouth,
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  Speaker 1: you become like a little rough So you better it
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  Speaker 1: has to be a well balanced outbea right. You come
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  Speaker 1: in looking like one hundred because your mouth is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be bottom bottom feeding level right, but then with the
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  Speaker 1: combination it evens out the scale. See great point. It's
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  Speaker 1: a great point.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone looked stunning. Everyone on your side plus Shena.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said on last week's episode of this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we needed Shena over with us of grade. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: our our side was on one hundred. I know.
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  Speaker 2: And I want all your thoughts because I want your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on Schwartz because I was kind of disappointed and
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  Speaker 2: were disappointed in him as a I thought, this is
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  Speaker 2: your time, Schwartz, come in give us like you. This
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  Speaker 2: is your time to make it right. This is your Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is your time to make it right. And what
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  Speaker 2: did he do make it worse?
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I I.
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  Speaker 1: Saw him at the gala, the Vander Pump Dog Dog's gala,
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  Speaker 1: and I went with my publicist because I had called
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  Speaker 1: her earlier that day. I was not gonna go. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, not in a good space just with what
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  Speaker 1: I deal with on a daily basis, and just that
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  Speaker 1: day I was like, I'm on a hundred. I'm dragging everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is collateral damage right now for this fucking mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Can't do it, can't And there's gonna be press on
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  Speaker 1: the carpet. I end up pulling it together. Shina gives
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  Speaker 1: me a pep talk. She's like, pull your shit together.
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  Speaker 1: You're a strong motherfucker. You go to the dog gala,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have fun. I had the best time, but
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  Speaker 1: I had my publicist there to man off anyone who
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me, because she knew when I
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  Speaker 1: was on the phone dragging everybody. She was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we should probably make sure you're muzzled tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Is said, no red correct, no question pictures only.
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  Speaker 1: We're sitting at the table. Schwartz is at our table
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  Speaker 1: and he's talking whatever. And even my publicist was like,
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  Speaker 1: you really need to get someone like it's she said
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  Speaker 1: to him. Oh EMM was not playing. She's like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to help you. He was like, well what
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  Speaker 1: about you? And she was like no, no, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to help you. I'ma you gotta find someone.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a publicist.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's what he said. He said, he doesn't have one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my mym I yeah, not good.
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  Speaker 1: Just to kind of coach him through. So the episode
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  Speaker 1: starts out with Sandoval trying his hardest to cry. Oh
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  Speaker 1: seen this before. It reminds me of my situation. I
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  Speaker 1: like when I can make a comparison. Yeah, I live
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  Speaker 1: in a nice place when I go you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I can relate to this or I've seen this before.
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  Speaker 1: I know this story. I was feeling that I was
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  Speaker 1: watching it in real time the second that Andy said,
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  Speaker 1: how are you holding up? Or whatever he asked him,
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  Speaker 1: and we watched it. In the finale, him like trying
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  Speaker 1: to cry on Lisa's couch and it wasn't working. He
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  Speaker 1: needed to make it more dramatic because it was fake.
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  Speaker 1: So he goes up to a window.
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  Speaker 2: Turns his head. But I have to say, what part
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  Speaker 2: of me thought that might be real?
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  Speaker 1: And that was me?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get so many people to disagree with me.
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  Speaker 2: The Lisa breakdown, I thought, okay, I get it. Timeline wise,
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  Speaker 2: this adds up. He would be having a breakdown there.
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  Speaker 2: The reunion is the second people called him out, the
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  Speaker 2: tears disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: But I so relate to that. There are so many
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  Speaker 1: times where that has happened in front of me with
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  Speaker 1: my own situation, and I've been like, pull your fucking
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  Speaker 1: shit together enough, and then the tears and then they're
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  Speaker 1: like I'm upset, and I'm like, well, I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you really got normal quickly. It just doesn't even feel
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  Speaker 1: like even when there are tears, it's just there's something
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  Speaker 1: about the eyes where I'm like, you guys are feel
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  Speaker 1: a little soulless, a little vacant. And that's what I gathered.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved when James said, pull your shit together, man,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what it was like. You don't get to
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  Speaker 1: cry right now. Yeah, you don't get too this moment, okay,
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  Speaker 1: especially when we learned that he was basically victim shaming Ariana,
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  Speaker 1: which I relate to because I that happened to me
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  Speaker 1: by pretty much everybody. Yeah, good thing. I'm a tough bitch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. Sticks and stones, betch,
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  Speaker 1: sticks and stones. Oh, we need video, but she's I know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait for video. You guys, we are having
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  Speaker 1: video on the podcast starting very soon, very very very soon.
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  Speaker 1: But I love that she pointed that out, like this
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  Speaker 1: is a very different version from what I've been experiencing
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  Speaker 1: behind closed doors. That's the narcissis's biggest fear. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what happens behind the scenes. What I care about
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  Speaker 1: is how the public will view me. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: say the quickest way with the narcissist, you publicly fucking
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  Speaker 1: blast them. I also learned in this reunion that I
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  Speaker 1: need to stop saying the effort so much.
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  Speaker 2: Why was there a lot that's so funny? I don't
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  Speaker 2: even remember the beeps.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I say it so much and it's got
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  Speaker 1: to end.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man, I say it a lot to that because
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  Speaker 2: you hang out with me every day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a horrible influence.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But no, Yeah, the victim shaming
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  Speaker 2: was horrific and it was not even And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: He tried the apology.
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  Speaker 1: The tears didn't hit. They went away very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: He went away very quickly. And instead of them going, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: get I'll get my shit together, let's just let's just
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  Speaker 2: give a sincere apology. Oh but then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: it's Ariana's fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And for him to say, I'm so happy that
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  Speaker 1: everyone's been supporting ari on it. Behind the scenes, he's
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  Speaker 1: been wondering why he wasn't invited, trying to get invited
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  Speaker 1: to the White House Correspondence dinner, trying to get invited
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  Speaker 1: to X Y and z asking why he's not doing
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  Speaker 1: certain talk shows like behind.
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  Speaker 2: The Scenes, he jealous, can you imagine? Which I love
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  Speaker 2: part of his team and getting the call the blah
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  Speaker 2: blah that's going to the White House. Why am I
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  Speaker 2: not invited to the White House? The one being talked about?
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  Speaker 1: Like, but you're being talked about because you did something bad,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't doesn't matter, That doesn't matter, no, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And my most favorite thing is when a man starts
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  Speaker 1: getting jealous of a woman because she starts thriving and
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  Speaker 1: they turn into little freaking dick boy, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: the woman is like overreaed up, thriving and this guy
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  Speaker 1: turns into a pair of balls, you know, weak, punishable, fragile, fragile.
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  Speaker 1: That's why people call you a squirt. Yeah. Yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: they do is squirt and we create life. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: I know, isn't it pathetic?
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  Speaker 2: That's sad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm such a man hater, and I am
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  Speaker 1: okay with the fact that my future partner, if they
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  Speaker 1: even exist, could listen to this podcast and run away.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I have to say.
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  Speaker 2: After the reunion and everyone's running everyone, No, he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even gonna say that that's hilarious. I was gonna say
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  Speaker 2: everyone is probably a man hater, even the men after
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  Speaker 2: reunion number one, but that's home well.
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  Speaker 1: Even Andy said it in the one on one at
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning of the episode the reunion. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: I just mentor shit and she said sorry, and he goes, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I co sign on that because it's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of true, you know, but I respect a man
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  Speaker 1: who can also say like, yeah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: So then we cut to Andy asking about the living situation,
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  Speaker 1: and as everyone knows still to this day, they I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say cohabitating because they're not really, They're
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  Speaker 1: just living in the same space. For me, I'm all
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  Speaker 1: about energy. You may not physically you here right now,
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  Speaker 1: but your energy is, yeah, and that's enough for me
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  Speaker 1: to feel unsafe. Other people are totally good with warding
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  Speaker 1: off bad energy, you know, Like when I got to
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  Speaker 1: do drop off with my baby, I literally ask Jesus
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  Speaker 1: to like come in and protect me, and God please
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  Speaker 1: put a shield around this car. I will not be
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  Speaker 1: penetrated today. I will not not in any way, shape
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  Speaker 1: or form, not.
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  Speaker 2: By the evil, not by the deck, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing stay away from me. All right, so God for me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta get her out. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: her out. She seems to be in a great space
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  Speaker 1: and she's never home because she's too busy conquering the
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  Speaker 1: fucking world.
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  Speaker 2: Did she not move out? I thought she moved out recently.
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  Speaker 1: No, I thought that was what I read online. It
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  Speaker 1: was like an adding, Okay, yeah, like she's moving out,
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  Speaker 1: but really, she don't move out? Okay, And I'm asked like,
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  Speaker 1: do you think it's healthy? Keep in mind, I'm only
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  Speaker 1: here to speak my opinions, but I also spit facts,
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  Speaker 1: all right, because I got experience, and no matter how
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  Speaker 1: many books someone reads on something, you will never be
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  Speaker 1: able to have the knowledge that someone has who's experienced shit.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed one hundred percent. Yes, everyone thinks that when you
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  Speaker 1: say someone is dangerous, that immediately means physical. This person
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  Speaker 1: will attack you, this person will touch you, this person
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  Speaker 1: will do this, that, and the other. That's not where
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  Speaker 1: I was coming from. When you deal with the sand
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  Speaker 1: of all, you're dealing with someone who is extremely manipulative.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have feelings because he's a narcissist. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not the only person to say that there have also
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  Speaker 1: been people who are well versed on this topic saying
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  Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Just by watching him, the way
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  Speaker 1: he moves, the way he acts, it's pretty clear as day.
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  Speaker 1: So when Lisa decides to come from me and say
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  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, I love Lisa vander Pump. Again, this is
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  Speaker 1: a show and we sometimes don't agree with what the
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  Speaker 1: other person says. Lisa vander Pump put on her Instagram
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  Speaker 1: page that that was the wrong word to use, and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. There's no other way to break it down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how what other word to use. It
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  Speaker 1: is dangerous. When someone can break you down mentally, that
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  Speaker 1: is a fucking hard thing to build back up. And
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  Speaker 1: that was the point I was making, is you know,
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  Speaker 1: imagine down the road he finds a partner who puts
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  Speaker 1: up with his bullshit because they will, and they may
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  Speaker 1: not even know his bullshit because they've been so blinded.
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  Speaker 1: I've been there. You ignore the red flags. You're different,
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  Speaker 1: it's a different situation. Let's say they go on to
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  Speaker 1: have children. You then find yourself in a world that
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  Speaker 1: could very well knock you on your ass if you
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to rebuild and keep a stiff upper lip,
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  Speaker 1: just the way it is. I've met women who have
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  Speaker 1: been my situation, maybe even much worse where it is debilitating.
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  Speaker 1: So when I use the word dangerous, that's not my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: This is fact. And people do need to be warned
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  Speaker 1: about him. I'm not saying don't engage with him, just
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  Speaker 1: know who you're dealing with. Sand of All decides to
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  Speaker 1: chime in and say, if you're gonna talk about my character,
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  Speaker 1: you need to go to the very back. Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what he was saying in the
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  Speaker 1: moment when I was there, because I made a vow
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  Speaker 1: to myself when this idiot opens his mouth, shut the
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  Speaker 1: fuck up. Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up,
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  Speaker 1: ain't listen and bye bye, shut up, shut up, shut up,
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  Speaker 1: So that I only saw last night what he actually said,
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  Speaker 1: which was stupid. And I need to go to the back.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna judge my character, you need to get
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  Speaker 1: in line somewhere near the back, which means the line
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: is so long with people it's like dissing himself. I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: never cut I never butt in line, so I will
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: get to the back. I don't all go to the back.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Take a few years to get up to the front.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, sure, I'll get to the back.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, I love to cut a line like metaphorically speaking,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know, like if there's a if there's a way
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: for me to like get my point across, which is
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: me sitting at a reunion with you, Yeah, I'm gonna
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: fucking do it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have a question obviously about that moment. So
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: that was a moment that was tweeted a lot about
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: because it's you standing up quote unquote to Lisa vander
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Pump And that's not a thing that was done. And
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I saw a lot or not a thing that's done
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a lot, and I saw a lot of tweets that said, like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: uh oh, she better be careful. Jack did this, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: look what happened to him. He got kicked off the show.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And so how do you feel about that? Now? Do
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: you look at that and you're like, I'm I I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: so it sounds like you're proud of that. Have you
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: talked to Lisa? Did she text you last night?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: How is that?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, no, we do that all the time.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: That's just how me and Lisa are and we're moving
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: forward normally.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: How's that got well, I got a lot of questions
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: because I did the little ask me a question and
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: someone said, were you offended slash frustrated with how LVP
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: handled things? I was. I wouldn't say that I was frustrated,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think, and I wouldn't even say offended, because we
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: were so in the moment and we were moving so
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: quickly that I didn't have time to process anything except
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for dealing dealing with what was just said and then
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: moving on to whatever Andy's next question was. With what
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Lisa said, I wouldn't use either of those words. I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: don't expect anybody who hasn't dealt with a narcissist to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, because even myself, when I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: heard the word narcissist, I really thought it meant like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: they just really love themselves and they have a big ego.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It is not that at all. I love myself dearly.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Some people do call me a narcissist. I've been around
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of specialists who diagnosed these things, and I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: hate to break it to you, I am not one.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I will not deplete you. I may say some things
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that might like hurt feelings, but like we're all good here,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to break you down.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Confidence and narcissism is not in the same is not
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: like exchange interchangeable or whatever that is. It's very and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you're Lala, you're the one who taught me that in Tina,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And it's not one of those things where we're like, oh,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you know, you're looking in the mirror and you're like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: loving how you look, and you're like, I'm just a
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: little bit of a nursery.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Right, Like the Greek mythology he sees himself in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: pond and he's like, oh, I'm gorgeous y right. Very different.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: LVP and I have a really a very good relationship.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I think we have crossed over to a friendship where
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I can be honest with her and she can be
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: honest with me, and there's a mutual love and there's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a mutual respect. No, I have not heard from her today,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't expecting to, you know, like, I know
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the type of friendship that we have, and she would
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: let me know if she was annoyed at me. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: also don't think that she would have posted that clip
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on her main page that I did respond to because
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. But I find it my duty
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to shed light on narcissism as you should.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: That's just what I don't misunderstood widely.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So then we move into James delivering the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: line of you're a worm with a mustache. That was iconic.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I talk about Sandoval. You know, James leaves because he's
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: on ten, rips his jacket off. I'm way more ripped
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: than you all. Did you see that? I did.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would kick your ass any day.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'm way more ripped than you all. You've a mom
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: with a mustache. Iconic.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It was so good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It was so iconic. I like how to rewind? It
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was so good.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I have a question. Was Ali in the back? Did
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: he get up and leave? Part of me thought, why
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: is he leaving? But then I thought, I wonder if
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: he's going in the back to Allie to be like
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to be like, I need you, I need you help
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: me to calm down, because you know, I saw her.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: She's in there the whole time.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, because she's in a teaser where she's sitting in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a dress on stage, so that has been released.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's going that'll be tonight, Okay, Ali will
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: come in. She looked beautiful. Maybe he did go talk
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to her? Where was he going? He was a time.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the episode.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, he just needed to get out of there and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: cool down.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I think he needed to take a breather. Yeah, which
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I respected. So James leaves. I say to Sandoval, we've
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: all messed up. This person on my gram said people
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: still feel a need to talk about your past and such.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think they'll ever get over it? No, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: don't think people will ever get over my past, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. The past is exactly why I
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: am here today and can say the things that I say,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And five years from now, I'm going to look back
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: at this stage in my life and say I would
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have changed X, Y and Z. This is just the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: way shit works. Or five years from now, I could
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: say I was in a way better spot back then.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I need to get back shit. Who the fuck knows?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Sandoval loves to pull out the history books because it's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: all he has. In my opinion, he is the only
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he is one of the only people on the cast
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: who is the same person. And that's what I was
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: trying to say to him, is I still am recognizing
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that you are a human being. When James comes back.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tear your head off again, but for this moment,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to let you know that we live in today.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I've dealt with my shit every reunion it is talked about.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I could not acknowledge it any fucking more than I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: already have. Okay, so right now, we ain't talking about
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: me and what I've done, because we've talked about it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: The horse been dead, let it rest. We're talking about you.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And the reason we're bringing up your past still is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: because your past is very much present today. That's why
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it's relevant. Yeah, you can't bring up my past if
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the behavior does not match anymore, just like you can't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: bring up the past with James hooking up with Kristen
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: when he's dealt with an engagement since then, the breakoff
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of an engagement, a new girlfriend buying a home, moving
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: in with the new girlfriend into the home that he bought,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: we hate there anymore. They cannot coexist unless we're talking
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: about behavior that is present that was in the past
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Deflect, deflect, deflect, It's just, I mean, what else is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: instead of taking accountability? And that's a big sign of like,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: oh well, yes, he is a narcissist, deflect, deflect, victim, blame.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: All the things came out within the first few minutes.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The first part of that this episode was like pretty fire.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: There was someone who asked on socials. Oh, by the way,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: shout out to Alex Cornwell z J because she said
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: my husband was like that babe has an Ada one tattoo.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: She's from Utah and I love because so many people
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: come up to me and they're like, what is ada one?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And it's Salt Lakes Area code. Yes, ah, So I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: love that that person like I do that. I love
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that Ada one moment. So they were asking Maggie Underscore Hodges,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was sheena not that vocal or was it editing? She
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: seemed pretty mute and anxious. You have to remember we
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: usually have a block of time to process the season
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: before we step into a reunion. I was actually thinking
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that they were going to push the reunion back because
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: before this happened, we already knew that what was it
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: March twenty third? It was the twenty third that we
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: were filming the reunion. We pick cameras back up, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: want to say March fourth or fifth. We film for
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a week and some change and are still expected to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: go into the reunion with really no time to process anything.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No, everything was still so everyone was still so heated.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Of course they still are to this day.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm so heated.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And then you start getting people coming to you and saying,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I knew I have so many regrets. Here's text messages.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They had code names for each other. Raquel was Jamie.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And it's just like a different level of process understanding
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: for Arianna. In her mind, this was never real. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: made this up. In my mind, I'm having to sit
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: with the fact that it never existed. I'm mourning something
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that didn't exist, and that's really a hard pill to swallow.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: That's a mind fuck. I have been in that space.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So I want to say that Sena going into it
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was affected in a very different way because she wasn't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: completely in it. But these were two of her best friends,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: three of her best friends that she was really defending,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know, And when you're kind of an outsider that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: defending a friend group and then you get played, it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a whole different level of just how could I not
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: see this?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Of course, and it's the worst and I mean we saw,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you know, you saw her process it right after, not
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: only she losing a friend with Rachel, but she's probably humiliated. Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: so Jill, it's either Jill so photos or Jill's oh photos.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Do you think Sandy and Schwartz's friendship is damaged after this,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: after this reunion or after the airing? Because it's too no.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I believe is going to happen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Schwartz has been right or die for Tom. Tom has
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: never been right or die for Schwartz. But I feel
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that it's a level of comfortability on Schwartz's end. He
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: understands that this is the friendship, this is how it's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: always been. He doesn't know any different. What's going to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: start to happen after this, and maybe it's already started happening,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is the build up of resentment, and there's going to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: be a breaking point for Schwartz where he loses his mind.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what exactly has to happen for
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: him to understand that people like sand of all, people
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like my ex people that he's attaching his cart too.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's not good. You know, at some point you got
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: to pick right and what is right for you, and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: he still continues to not do that. It's like, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: want you to take everybody else out of focus right now,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what is going to be best for you and your family.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And maybe he's not there yet, but it will happen.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It happens to everybody. When you're pushed so far, the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: resentment builds up that you cannot repair.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Well. I have to ask on that note. A moment
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in the reunion where they're talking about the snowboarding trip
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and Schwartz is looking at Sandoval going come on like
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: as it. He's looking at him so intensely.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Like dude, back me up, back me up here.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And he didn't. Sandoval didn't back him up. And what
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was because let me just so I understand.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So Schwartz and Sandoval went on a snowboarding trip, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it sounds like Raquel and Joe then met up with them.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: There is that correct? Yeah, here's what I think happened.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And I want to know if you can speak on this.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I think Schwartz understood it as yeah, they were just
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: going snowboarding, and then Sandoval was like, dude, I'm gonna
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: invite Briquel and like then Joe could come and it
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: could be this thing and made me talk talked him
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: into it, and who knows if Schwartz was like, no,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: let's not or was like okay, fine whatever, because he
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: kind of just like can be a pushover. And in
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that reunion moment, I think maybe he was hoping Sandoval
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to be like, no, no, no, hold on, I invited those girls.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I think you're absolutely and that's it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: On that didn't happen.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: No, Sandoval will throw everyone under the bus, his best friend,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: his mama, his own future children. Yeah, just to save himself.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: We watched it happen. He did not back him up, literally,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: but he wanted Schwartz to back him up when he
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was like January again, I mean August, no, no, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, that's when you told me right after the wedding.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Oh we got a specific. Now, we got a specific
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: right after the wedding. And I loved her.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: You guys were like, oh, did you not match your
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: timelines up?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You've been coaching the rat all day. You forgot to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: coach this one. So true, so true.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, did Katie ever express her feelings about your rekindled
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: friendship with Sina?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: She expressed her feelings. I am not going to share
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: what the exchange was I understand Katie very well. We
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: are both very powerful with our words, and we use
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: very colorful language, and I love Katie and I understood
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: where she was coming from a place I think of hurt.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: We dealt with it on the plane ride to watch
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: What Happens Live right when the season started airing.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: When you guys were on together.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So I'm going to protect what she said
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it's necessary to even talk about. However,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: when she said on the reunion, you know Laala the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: same level of loyalty when you and Sheina weren't getting along,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you said, if anyone ever communicates with her,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they're dead to me. And I don't ever remember saying
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: anything like that. I definitely expressed my disdain for Shina
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: at the time because of what she had done on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: her podcast. But I know for a fact that if
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that's what I was saying behind the scenes when cameras
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: picked up, I would have said that on camera, like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: if you fucking go do this, I'm done with you.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't recall having some people choose, you know. Yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I do know that I was in season nine saying
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to Katie like I'm feeling like I'm on an island
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and I want you to have my back, which is
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: similar to what she was asking me. And I always
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: had her back, just like Sheena said. Not once did
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I ever make it like I was on the fence
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or I understood Sheena's side more than Katie's. Nope, I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: was black or white, like I don't fuck with you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is I'm sorry I didn't read the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: name of the last question, but if I can find it,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I will read it. This is Resa x Delaney. What
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: part do you wish they would have kept in that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: didn't make it to part one?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Honestly, because it was such a long day, I can't
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: remember the sequence of events. So I think maybe once
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I watched all three parts, maybe I'll have some memories
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: come back. But again, I've said this before where I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: kind of blacked out during the reunion, not with rage,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like just with emotion. It was like such a troubling
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: experience to be a part of. And I feel like
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: in the darkness we did create some light, like worm
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: with a mustache. There were things where it was like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: which is you know, being funny exactly with your insults.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: When I first saw the reunion episode, there were things
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that were cut out of it versus what we saw
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: on Bravo. However, it's because I saw the version that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: airs on Peacock, which is uncensored God and extended version.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, got it. On that note, I am curious. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: would have assumed that producers and maybe Andy so they
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: know already know this is probably going to be a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: multiple part reunion. You guys don't notice the cast coming in,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: but they do. Did they try and atta to be like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about some other stuff first because
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: we know that the majority of the reunion's going to
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: be taken up by Sandaval and it didn't work, or
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: did they just go full on Andy was like questions
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: about scandival and all that, or did they try like no, we.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Got a phone call. We got a phone call before
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the reunion after this happened, from a producer that said,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: we need your thoughts when we should bring out Obviously
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: we knew Sheen and Riquel couldn't be out there at
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the same time, so that was never a discussion. But
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: do do we bring them out and not have them
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to get Tom and Raquel together at all, Like, we
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: really do want your guys's thoughts, And I said, you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the only thing I'm asking is that we also talk
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: about what else happened this season, because although a lot
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of people have been affected by Scandival, you know, Katie
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was deeply affected by a lot of these people who
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: who are now on her side, But at the end
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of the day, like, just because you're cool with me now,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you don't get to get away with the past three
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: months of really fucking with my life. That was my
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: only ask. I was like, I don't care who's out
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: there at what time, I'm going to give them all
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, like I know exactly, I know
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: what the drill is.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Do you feel satisfied with the amount of because it
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: seemed like they touched on little things like that, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it really was always going back to Scandaval. In my opinion,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: What's crazy is we all said the same thing though
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the entire I know that Katie and I were very
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: much on the same page. It just was hard to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not bring it back to that because it was so
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: mind blowing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Right, and then what's Sandval going to give his opinion
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: on Katie and Tom's may I.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Yes, I do want to talk about two
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: things because I got questions about this. Number One, Tom
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Schwartz saying to Katie when during the discussion about their
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: relationship and him saying, you know, the worst time of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: my life my dad almost dying, my brother being diagnosed
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: with cancer, and they panned to me and I am
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: making like a like a full breath, like closing up
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the eyes, shaking my head thing. And I didn't want
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: anyone to think that I was like, not an excuse
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: when he was going through what you know, the timeline
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of my dad, my brother. It was more of like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I can relate to having a dad with health issues,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and I really can't imagine having to deal with my
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: partner then wanting to divorce me during that time. However,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like I talked, I've talked to Katie about this. Had
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the relationship been solid and he always picked her and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: then this you know, situation with his family and the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: health issues happened and he had to break away and
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't giving her as much time, I know she would
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: have been more understanding, but it was like, you've never
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: given me time ever. Yeah, I've always been on the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: back burner, whether this had happened with your family or not.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So I just want to make that clear that I
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't shaking my head like excuses. It was really like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: holy shit, that is a lot for one person to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: be dealing with the other thing. Sina talking about how
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: she was relating to Raquel because she's been bullied by Katie,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: bullied by La La, and I said, this is we're
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: not teaching pre K and this is bravo. We all
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: signed up for this. And Sandoval says bullying doesn't have
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in age range and I fully agree with that. The
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: reason why I said pre k and maybe that wasn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the right job title was I was trying to say
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the workplace. I'm not saying that what we go out
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and do and things that I say or other people
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: say is okay on any level, right. I was trying
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to show that this workplace that we are on we
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: have all come for each other. We all read that contract,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: all right, we know what it says in there. It's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: fucking intense. The language is very intense. We all looked
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: at it. We all had lawyers look at it. We
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: all signed it. I have been called a home wrecking whore,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a mistress. Raquel went as far as to call me
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: chicken shit, which is like, I literally haven't been called
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a chicken since I was being bullied in elementary school.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't about the age. I'm very well aware
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that you can be bullied at any age. I'm bullied
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: by random strangers on Instagram who I've never fucking met
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: in my life, calling me a bully as they're bullying me. Yeah.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So I was trying to lay the groundwork of let's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: remember where we are. Not everyone here has clean hands.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: We have all thrown mud at each other. We know
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the playing field. We're all dressed for the same game,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: me and Katie and James Kennedy, just maybe a little
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: bit more intense while we're playing the same game as
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, if you've watched
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Freaking Atlanta, oh, I'd be in the
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: fetal position, like those bitches don't play.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I need to watch the.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Should they say to each other. I'm like, whoa wild wild?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I need to watch that's I mean, yeah, no, that's
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a great point. I a DM I did see come
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: in earlier, and I have one here that says you're
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: from scorch blithe blithe your thoughts on Rachel smile and
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: smug face behind the scenes, completely unfazed. But but on
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that note, and I don't want to forget it because
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you mentioned Shehena, there was a DM that came into
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the podcast. Sorry, I just saw it come in and
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I've lost it now. But they asked was Sheena's feelings?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Were Sheena's feelings hurt by you saying we've gotten closer
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: from the babies because the person dming was like, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: would assume that would maybe hurt her feelings because base
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it's basically saying, well, I'm friends with you now because
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the kids, not necessarily because I wanted to be closer
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Sena as a person, no that and she was not
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: offended because she knew exactly how I meant it. When
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: we were on the outs and we had that moment
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: season nine where I said are we going to be friends?
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: What was on the forefront of our mind saying this
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: friendship is worth it was I have a little girl,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and I like you, and I want our kids to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: be friends like so even though the kids were the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: driving force, I kick it with Shina with her, without
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the kids, I kick it with Shena and her mom
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and my mom. We go do things just me, Sheena
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and Brock and I'm a third wheel. Like I wasn't
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: saying without the kid, we wouldn't be friends, but really,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: without the kid, we may not be friends.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Because it gave you that moment to be like, are
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we going to move forward?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Right? But that's not to say like that's the only reason.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: But they were the driving force between make or break? Yeah?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: No, that makes all the sense.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, because if I could stand her, I don't
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: give a fuck if you got a kid or not,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be around you. There's plenty of fears.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of kai people with kids. And by the way,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: like it's in a stand up, I can't remember who
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: does it? Oh, Jerry Seinfeld. Kids bond if they like
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: like the same ice cream? Yeah right, they're like, you're small,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm small best friends? Yes, yes, exactly, I could find
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: someone to hang out with ocean anywhere, right.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, So your thoughts on Rachel smile and smug face
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes completely unfazed. That was scorch blythee.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: What I was shocked by is when Schwartz was saying
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the kiss was liberating and she smiles, It's like, you're
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: so weird.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: There was not a tear, so we know that. So
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: even if it was edited where yeah, maybe an extra
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: eye roll where she didn't do it, but.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect to see tears from her. By the way,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it away, but I'm going to say,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: don'y expect.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: It, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And when she like people thought that this reunion was
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: intense and we were on one hundred, just wait until
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Raquel steps into the building. Oh my god, we are
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like vicious dogs.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how it can get better.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm not even kidding.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I give her credit for even stepping into the building.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have the ovaries to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: do that. There you go, very intense situation. Yeah, so
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: do I.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know why I don't feel that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: way about Sandoval. Maybe it's because Raquel it was newer
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and is the newest, right, So I'm like, I guess
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: she probably could have just been like I'm not going
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to go. I don't know if she could have been
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: like that, but she I feel like, if she wanted to,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: she could have been like, found a reason for her
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: team to be like she's not going period. But then
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm also like, but then she wants the screen time,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: so I'm like, I don't.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Know how Well, that's what's really hard. And this is
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: where I won't even pretend like I'm well versed enough
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to know this difference is obviously Sandoval would show up
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: key cast member, also a narcissist, pretty unfhazed about all
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of this, to be honest, like he may feel a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: little done in the domes, but it's like not it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: didn't shake his world to the point of no return. Raquel,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy with her team, the fact that she
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: came to the reunion, and however many days, weeks, months later,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: she's in a mental health facility. That tells me she
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: should have taken that moment to really protect herself and isolate.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Do not expose yourself to the public. I understand this
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: is a show, but at the end of the day,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: when it's between this and your wellbeing, that literally we
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: have to protect at all costs. Because that is what
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: moves you further in life or puts you in your grave.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: We have to protect that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and health above all for sure.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that she was in any place
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to face because you have to remember, facing us is
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: one thing. When it's air worldwide, it's a whole different set,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and they don't let up. I mean I haven't really
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: let up, but I've been i mean compared to what
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: some of these people say, I'm like, you should be
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: on reality to you, like, you're way more vicious than
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that I ever could be. Yeah, Rocky Barnett said, do
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you think James deserved more airtime to share his perspective?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He was hurt too. The lack of compassion and rallying
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: around of James Kennedy is pretty insane to me. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: think he's gotten lost in all of this, and it's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: because he's kind of like me. You know, we have
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: intense mouths, and it's like we're looked at as the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: people that deserve it. Yeah, this is your karma or
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Not to say that people haven't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: rallied because I've seen a lot of love for James
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: because he's hysterical. But it's coming across as they love
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: his mouth and what he says rather than his best friend,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: which was mind blowing. No, that's what you called me.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: It's like you're insane. Yeah. And by the way, Sandoval
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: did pay for half of that engagement because he wanted
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: eyes on him. It wasn't about him, that's how he
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: made it about him. That wasn't out of the goodness
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of his own heart. Come on, fuck off. But like
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: that was his best friend and this was his fiance.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: They were gonna like get married, you guys, Yeah, get married,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: have kids. Raquel was gonna make her parents' grandparents. Same
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: with James Kennedy, And it was kind of looked at
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: as like not a big deal. And maybe it's because
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: he moved on really soon, but I mean, let's not
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: forget Arianna met her guy ten days after this happened,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: so both moved on very quickly. And I think James
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: it was like three.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Weeks after they broke off the engagement.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: He had a new girlfriend. I think around three weeks later. Yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Marianna had a new guy ten days later. They both
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: moved on very very quickly. And for James not to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: get the same amount of like oh oh, my gosh,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you were done dirty. And maybe it's because they weren't
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: still maybe they were still engaged in this happened, it
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: would be very different. But it's just funny how the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: outside world looks at certain people and they I read
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the La Times article. They did a spotlight piece on
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: me and they asked a professor. I believe it was
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: at Columbia and they asked. The writers asked, which I
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't aware of this. I read the piece when everyone
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: else did. Why Arianna got this level of support when
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: La Law was looked at and it was if you
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: make a comparison way more intense, why it wasn't given
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the same amount of like, wow, okay, we have a
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: level of respect here. And this woman, I think her
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: name was Raquel Gates said, you have to be a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: perfect victim for people to sympathize with you. Being a
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: perfect victim is very very hard. I mean, we've watched
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: it in some of these trials where men have forced
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: themselves on women and they go through and they say,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but was it not true that you held his hand
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: one time? Yeah? Was it not true that you sent
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: him a text that said I miss you. It's like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: unless you are a perfect victim. You don't get sympathy.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: That don't work for me. So I want to give
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: James another shout out because he's been through the Ringer too. Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Difference is he's like me, we shake shit off, fuck
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: everyone but us.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Right, But yes, but the support, I get it, supporting
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: him being like you're so funny, Hell yeah, James, but
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: also his heart, like he his heart was broken and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying, Raquela, I'm not saying, but he was
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: in a situation and you can tell with the tears,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and he's been vulnerable this season and just like speaking
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: his truth and yeah.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter because all of everything he's said
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: in the past. Run a montage from the time he
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: entered vander Pump Rules to where he is now, that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: one moment, everything out, everything else outweighs that same with me.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I have a moment a breakdown, and everyone wants to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: cut to the clip where I was ripping someone's head off.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: You look at Arianna and she has been very sweet
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and reserved the entire time, and due to Sandoval being
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: obnoxious and a narcissist and overbearing and just pure torture
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: as an outsider, looking in Arianna became background noise. Yeah, yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and that is not an insult. That's when you're dealing
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: with a Tom Sandoval and that's your partner. You have
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: no control over becoming background noise because they are so
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: much that you almost just retreat. You're like, I can't deal.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, I so relate.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that's I mean.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Like tired keeping the robe on all day. Yes, everyone
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: get away from me. So there is that. Proud of
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: my entire cast. Everyone freaking killed it. I hope you
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: guys enjoy part two of tonight and again, I believe
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: tomorrow is going to be the unedited and a longer
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: episode of the reunion, So enjoy. I love you, guys.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode. I will catch you
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday.