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IAAI Town Meeting: Is Luke the Most Stable Person in Stars Hollow? (Season 4 E20 “Luke Can See Her Face” · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: Again! More, more, more.
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  Speaker 3: I want to kiss you more. More, more, more. I
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  Speaker 3: want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 1: I Am All In, town meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 1: Tara Sood.
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  Speaker 3: An iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, we're talking about Season 4, Episode 20.
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  Speaker 3: Luke can see her face, which aired on May 4th.
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  Speaker 1: 2004 we're really how many episodes in this season 22.
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  Speaker 2: 22 i think yeah this i love love love this
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  Speaker 2: episode and i so if you're listening to this and
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  Speaker 2: you listen to the recap i recap this episode with
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  Speaker 2: scott and i that was fun getting to talk to
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  Speaker 2: scott about this episode because this is one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite episodes in the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it's a good one there's so much to
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  Speaker 1: unpack i mean from like The dean of it all
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  Speaker 1: to jest.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, no clown pillow, I would like to
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  Speaker 1: point out. We did get Lorelei's living room, but was
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  Speaker 1: it there?
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  Speaker 2: There was a clown pillow.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: It was in the scene.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't in its regular spot.
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  Speaker 2: It was, but it was laying flat. It was laying horizontally,
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  Speaker 2: and you can see it when Rory leaned over to
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  Speaker 2: kiss Lorelai's cheek.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's... When she moved, you could see.
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  Speaker 2: It behind her by the window.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: I was waiting for it, the whole scene. I think
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  Speaker 3: by that point, I was like, well, it's not there, so.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't notice it, so I... Because I recorded with
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  Speaker 2: Scott a little while ago, I watched this episode twice. Right,
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  Speaker 2: because Scott and I recorded maybe a week or so ago.
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  Speaker 2: And so I didn't see it That time, but I
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  Speaker 2: saw it when I watched it to record today. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't super obvious because it was just, it was
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  Speaker 2: laying flat. So it didn't make its normal appearance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like waiting for it because there were
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  Speaker 1: so many angles with it at first in that scene.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I thought in the opening when she was
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  Speaker 2: looking at the door, she's standing at the window. And
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  Speaker 2: I thought for sure we were going to see it.
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  Speaker 3: And then we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I know, when the opening scene, I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be there. And then we had, because we
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  Speaker 1: had that angle. And then when she's sitting with Rory, I,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, if it was the second she moved, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't pay attention.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real quick. And it was only in
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  Speaker 2: the part where she leaned over to kiss Lorelai on
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  Speaker 2: the cheek. And so if you weren't like watching that
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  Speaker 2: exact instant, you wouldn't have seen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Huh. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well then nevermind.
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  Speaker 1: It was there. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Where should we start?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Gosh, I don't know. There was so much that
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  Speaker 2: happened here. I loved the scene. So we had the
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  Speaker 2: cats on the porch in the opening, but I loved
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  Speaker 2: the scene right after that, after that commercial break where
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  Speaker 2: she's sitting on the steps outside the diner and it's
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  Speaker 2: 5 o'clock in the morning and she's already had all
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  Speaker 2: the coffee. That scene was so cute and Luke was
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  Speaker 2: supportive of her, but at the same time, what the
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  Speaker 2: hell are you doing here at 5.
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  Speaker 3: O'clock in the morning? And then Kirk comes.
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  Speaker 2: And then Kirk shows up. It just was I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It was so good. Like it was Soul Stars Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: It was so good.
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  Speaker 1: And then when he asked her to change tables, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you have to be kidding me. And then
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  Speaker 1: when she changed tables and he's like, oh, Lang's better here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God. It was just, I just love that. Like,
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  Speaker 3: cause it adds the quirk, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like you could have had that whole scene without Kirk
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  Speaker 1: and it would have just been a normal scene. And
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  Speaker 1: then you had Kirk and you're like, but that's what
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  Speaker 1: makes the town.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. That specific little thing.
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  Speaker 1: Because the scene of her just showing up is one thing,
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  Speaker 1: but the element of Kirk is like, no, it's why
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  Speaker 1: we keep coming back.
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  Speaker 2: It's that extra little quirk that just makes it.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what direction we go in here.
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  Speaker 1: There is a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, should we just jump into the wedding?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Suddenly Luke is in this wedding party
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  Speaker 1: and he's never met this man before.
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  Speaker 3: That's one. Also, what a wild bachelor party.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I, you know, this was a great episode for Luke, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because we see how much his family really means to him,
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  Speaker 2: even though basically everybody in his life has abandoned him
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  Speaker 2: at some point. He still wants that. family connection like
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  Speaker 2: he still is doing stuff for his sister and he goes.
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  Speaker 1: Also he cares about Jess like yeah I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's some people like who he may not care about
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  Speaker 1: as much but well I take that back he does
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  Speaker 1: care about everyone including Kirk like we saw a couple
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  Speaker 1: episodes ago when he helped him out with the eggs
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  Speaker 1: and stuff but like he loves Jess like he really
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  Speaker 1: does and he wants to see that kid succeed so
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  Speaker 1: like he goes over and like he's probably sad by
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  Speaker 1: like his first of all his living situation good lord
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  Speaker 1: yeah Which, sorry, complete sidebar. His hair was styled so weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it was.
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  Speaker 3: In that scene. It was like this swoop that we've
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  Speaker 3: never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, maybe it was just to make
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  Speaker 1: it seem like he's messy.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just an odd... Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: We've never seen that. But, I mean, even to jump
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  Speaker 3: and just talk about the relationship, when he sees Jess
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  Speaker 3: on his couch at the end, he's so happy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was a... I don't know. It was just such
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  Speaker 2: a good... Like, all the things happening for Luke, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because Liz is always a problem for him. Jess has
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  Speaker 2: been a problem and then just, you know, ran away.
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  Speaker 2: He just got out of a bad marriage that shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have even happened in the first place. You know, his
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  Speaker 2: parents passed on. Like, he just has had all of
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  Speaker 2: these various abandonments during his life. But he still is
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  Speaker 2: pursuing the idea of being a family and, like, wanting
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  Speaker 2: to have his family... And wanting to have them around him.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't know, it was just as it
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  Speaker 2: was just a sweet episode.
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  Speaker 1: It really flowed with the divorce into this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And especially when he's doing these self help tapes,
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  Speaker 2: which seem like they're super out of character for him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just kind of underlies the whole thing that like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he wants to be happy and he wants
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  Speaker 2: to have happy people in his life and be happy
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  Speaker 2: in his relationships. And then when he has that realization
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  Speaker 2: when he's washing the dishes and, like, you know, that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just, I just love this episode.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Especially a great Luke episode. And also, I was thinking that, like,
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  Speaker 1: Luke was ahead of his time with audiobooks.
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  Speaker 2: That, you know, that could be true. I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 3: He could have read a book on self-help.
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  Speaker 2: He could have. I mean, I remember books on tape
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  Speaker 2: that were literal tapes.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know that. But, like.
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  Speaker 1: In the sense of like were self-helps more on actual tapes?
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's a thing from the early
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  Speaker 1: 2000s where it was like self-help books or whatever were
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  Speaker 1: all audiobooks. They wouldn't be like, oh, you're listening to
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  Speaker 1: like an audiobook. I feel like it was all self-help.
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  Speaker 1: Was that like an actual thing?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not a listening person. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: watching person. So I like reading. I don't like audiobooks.
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  Speaker 2: So I haven't like paid that much attention. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, real quick. I remember Jackie, our producer asked us
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 1: About if we looked up who voiced the audio book
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  Speaker 1: and I did not.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know who it was?
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  Speaker 2: No, I totally forgot to look.
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  Speaker 3: Jackie, I think you need to jump on. The reveal.
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  Speaker 3: It is Daniel Palladino.
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  Speaker 2: Is it really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No idea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I meant to look that up after we talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely forgot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on Reddit. It's on other things.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, that's awesome. That's cool. I kind of like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just thought Luke is a more
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  Speaker 1: stable guy than we think. He may be angry, but
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  Speaker 1: he's the most stable person in that town.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is. He doesn't have any aspirations to
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  Speaker 2: go out and do anything else. He wants to be
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  Speaker 2: in Stars Hollow. um you know with the the people
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  Speaker 2: that he views as family.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah i wasn't even in the beginning where he
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  Speaker 1: talks about like not being stressed or something in work
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  Speaker 1: was that this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yes yeah that was when lorelei was in the
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  Speaker 2: diner and she was asking him like isn't it stressful
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  Speaker 2: to run a business and he's like well right now
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  Speaker 2: it is a little bit yeah oh yeah that was
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  Speaker 2: in that scene in the early morning.
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  Speaker 3: But like he never acts stress like he had it
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  Speaker 3: all together Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's the most dealable person in Sarasalo, we
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  Speaker 3: just realized.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is weird when you think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll just continue on the Jess part.
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  Speaker 1: I like that he finally said he saw Rory.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big moment for him to come
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  Speaker 2: clean to Luke about the whole thing because usually Jess
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  Speaker 2: is so stoic and reserved and he doesn't show any vulnerability.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a lot for.
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  Speaker 3: Him to talk about. Wait, real quick. Where is his
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  Speaker 3: apartment that he's living in?
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  Speaker 2: I assume New York City.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I thought, but I didn't know. Because
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  Speaker 3: he said.
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  Speaker 2: He was a messenger, so that's like a New York
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  Speaker 2: City thing. Like a bike messenger probably.
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  Speaker 1: He literally lived in like a shoebox. God, that apartment
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  Speaker 1: stressed me the hell out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, my God. Mattress on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: just stuff everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Anyway, I mean, we're about to get... Is the wedding... No,
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  Speaker 1: the wedding's the finale of this season.
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  Speaker 2: No, the wedding is the next episode because the finale
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  Speaker 2: is the Dragonfly opening.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah. See, I'm
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  Speaker 3: telling you, all these last couple just... just intertwine.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been like a two-hour movie.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to stop watching.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this one I really was like, don't keep going.
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  Speaker 1: I know. The last one we watched back-to-back, but this
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  Speaker 1: one I was like, just just stop here and watch
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  Speaker 1: it i have to save it until next week right.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly i know it was i wanted to just like
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  Speaker 2: let it run into like last last week what's it
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  Speaker 2: called last week fights this week tights or something yeah
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  Speaker 2: so i had it was hard to not just let
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  Speaker 2: it keep running.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah um okay what else uh the asher fly should
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  Speaker 1: we go should we stick to the jess luke family
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  Speaker 1: or should we go to asher fleming we.
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  Speaker 2: Can go to asher i guess i.
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  Speaker 1: Don't really know the way um i just cannot with
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  Speaker 1: this whole storyline i just want it to be over
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  Speaker 1: but then even more annoying when like the granddaughter shows
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  Speaker 1: up and then rory like makes that comment like what did.
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  Speaker 3: She say like she.
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  Speaker 1: Called her girlfriend what was the line she like said
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  Speaker 1: like your next girlfriend or like something.
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  Speaker 2: Like that or like like that yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then she completely just ran away. But also the
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  Speaker 1: granddaughter is like probably the same exact age as Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: If that wasn't eye-opening for Paris, I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. Paris and this relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Also, could no one else come to the hospital for him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: No one else in that family came.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know where they're physically located. But even
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  Speaker 2: Paris said, like, he's got two adult children. Like, where
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  Speaker 2: are they? Um, and then a random granddaughter shows up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like no one else. He doesn't have any living family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Or maybe they're in England. Who knows? Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But like, I don't know. I was like, really? Parents
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  Speaker 3: are the ones taking care of him. And also the
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  Speaker 3: granddaughter didn't think anything was weird. seeing Paris with him?
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  Speaker 2: She acted so normal. Yeah, that's exactly what Scott and
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  Speaker 2: I talked about. It didn't seem strange to her that
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  Speaker 2: he's there with two 19-year-olds.
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  Speaker 3: Then she has to know that this is common.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she kind of had that look on her face
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  Speaker 2: because she wasn't surprised by it at all.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I would have preferred if it became a whole thing. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: it would be kind of interesting if she's like, who
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  Speaker 1: in the world is this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just one of your students you're hooking up with.
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  Speaker 1: If it was like a bomb drop right there, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been great.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We definitely could have used some more drama there, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It was just an annoying scene.
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  Speaker 2: Just cringe. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it should have been like a whole brawl with
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  Speaker 1: the granddaughter in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Or, you know, somebody, like, finds out that Paris and
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  Speaker 2: Asher are dating and reports it to the university.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Like, what if, like, a co-worker came, like,
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  Speaker 1: one of the people in the administrative office and then
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  Speaker 1: was like, this can't happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or if Doyle figured it out, because Doyle has already
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  Speaker 2: identified that Asher does this repeatedly. Oh my god, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Why did I completely forget that Doyle's even part of
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  Speaker 1: this storyline already?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have figured that out. Anyways, we're just
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  Speaker 2: here rewriting.
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  Speaker 3: He could have reported it in the newspaper. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That might look bad because Paris works for the paper,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe that would look bad on the paper.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He might have wanted to avoid that controversy.
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  Speaker 1: What if the town paper, not the school paper, but
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  Speaker 1: the town found out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Really just blow it up. Anyway, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: all we have to say about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need to talk about Asher anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And then Dean and Lindsay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We both just took a breath. She doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: what she wants. Do you want your future husband to
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  Speaker 1: be working and making money? Or do you want him
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  Speaker 1: to be hanging out with you all day?
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  Speaker 3: Take your pick.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She's still very immature. She's still very much high school-y.
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  Speaker 2: To me, like she doesn't understand that you can't go
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  Speaker 2: hang out with your friends if you're at work and
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  Speaker 2: you can't have the things you want if you don't
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  Speaker 2: work and earn money to get them. Like she still
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  Speaker 2: thinks like somebody's going to buy this for her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: without her having to make any kind of a sacrifice.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so she definitely, you know, I felt I
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  Speaker 2: did kind of feel bad for Dean. He's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm working like crazy trying to buy you these things. Like,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: why are you mad at me? Because I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: out with your friends. Like, she was being very immature
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: So mature.
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  Speaker 1: I feel really bad for Dean here. Because this man
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  Speaker 1: is working all hours of the day while she literally
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  Speaker 1: sits at home. And then she's apparently just, what was she, bored?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like, you never call. I just sit at
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  Speaker 2: home bored. Like, okay, well, you could go get a job, too.
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  Speaker 2: And then you could, you know, afford these things more quickly. But, yeah. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're... They're intentionally like villainizing her
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  Speaker 2: so that we understand why Dean is turning away from her.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not fair to the actress. It's not fair. Well, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: the character.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fair to the character because like we're just
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  Speaker 1: being told we should hate her when like the reasons
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: are stupid. Like there is no real reason for me
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to dislike her except she's just being dumb.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: She hasn't done anything wrong. I mean, she's kind of
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: a victim in the whole thing herself as we find out.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, a hundred percent. I wish it was like
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: a real fight, right?
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Like it just was a stupid fight. It was like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I'm bored at home and you're working it. But then
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: in the same breath, she's like, but you need to
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: be working all day.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Like, right.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like make up your mind. I wish it was like
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: a real fight.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: It's just a stupid fight that would have like resolved
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: within like five minutes with like a normal human.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: But that's again that's the kind of fights that teenagers get.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Into you know what maybe you have a point saying
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the immature part be like she's still acting like a
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: kid because like that's the whole point of why they
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: shouldn't get married so it's kind of proving rory's take
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: of like you're getting married too young blah blah but
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: yeah i don't know it's just it works but i
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: wish it was done a little differently yeah that's it
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: yeah i agree Also, I like how Lorelai had to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: bring this tea to the table.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Like, why did she
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: feel the need to tell Rory about it? Like, she
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: could have just... Because she obviously wasn't meant to overhear it. Like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: No, but they tell each other everything, so I wasn't
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: too shocked.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Considering who it was.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And we're just coming off of, like, a couple episodes
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: ago when, like, she... Lindsay just found out that Rory
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and Dean are talking. Yeah. Right?
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it a couple episodes ago?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yes. And I wonder if... How much of that Lorelai knew?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we don't know if Rory told her.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, maybe that's why. I don't think she knows.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Now that you say it, I don't think she knows.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It just seems like... You know, Lorelai is, like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the boss of the place, and even though Dean doesn't
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: work for her directly, he works for Tom, it still was, like,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: unprofessional as the owner of the... You know, like, it
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: was a... She was at work.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I still think it's more unprofessional that Lindsay came to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: his workplace and said that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, but I don't expect Lindsay to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: be professional. I do expect Lorelai.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: To be professional, but... I think she's professional with everyone else,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: but I think it's her kid.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's... Well, think about it. Like, I'm sure
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: your husband comes home and tells you stuff about work, right?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not with people that I'm directly involved. You
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? I guess it just was kind
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of crossing a line for me because she could have
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: just kept that to herself, but she's choosing to gossip.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's different because of the relationship.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: If it's like, you're just hearing about someone that you
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: know as like, a human who works with your significant other.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not... Like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: you don't even know. You just hear stories. You don't
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: even know this person. I guess it's different. Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, guess what? Rory Bob got in
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a big fight with his wife. And, you know, like
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that would be.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, cool.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Who's Bob?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. This is just a little bit different.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It kind of crossed the line a
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: little bit, but... I still just think it's... I don't know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I also think, like, doesn't Lorelai know that her daughter
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is a little sensitive to that subject?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: So telling her also seems weird.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, what was... What was her point there? Like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: what did... I don't know.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what was the end goal?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I did have a few, like, minor little call-outs. So,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I think probably a lot of people know this, but
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in case you didn't. So, the guy that played TJ's brother.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Is his brother in real life. So, I loved that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: He's the dad from Wizards of Waverly Place.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And then also... part of the same family, the movie
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: that they, that Lorelai and Rory watched at movie night
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: was Fatso. And that is their dad, Don Deluise, the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: guy in Fatso is their.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. That's like a famous.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Whoa. That was like inception over there.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So clearly, clearly that was intentional. And then I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: wanted to call this out because the of the separate
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: uh parenthood rewatch they're on season five so shell the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: poultry guy also played victor's baseball coach in parenthood i
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: think he was only in like one or two episodes but.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I watched Parenthood, but I think I've only seen it
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: through twice. I don't remember the details.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just one of those things I had
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: in the back of my head. I've only seen Parenthood
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a couple times.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the poultry guy, the sleeping with the squash. Yes.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: It's so funny.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And it's like one of those moments in this show
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: where you'll always remember. And I was like, oh, it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: this episode. When it came up, I was like, oh, yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I remember the storyline very clearly.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: That's one of those phrases that, you know, like sometimes
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: there's quotes from Gilmore Girls that just work their way
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: into your real life.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: It's that one.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And it's that one. And anytime anybody in the family, like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't understand something, somebody else will pipe in with, he's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: sleeping with the zucchini.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Zucchini.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Not squash.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Zucchini.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's basically like.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Let me repeat this slowly for you, you idiot.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense, but it does.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: That's like a part of our family's vocabulary on a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: regular basis.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: So you actually do say that?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes. My kids say it in everything. I don't even
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: think they know what it's from.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: That's so funny. They're sleeping with the zucchini. Oh, my God.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: It's so funny.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And then I did have one other funny little thing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: inconsistency from take to take was when, um, in the diner,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Lorelai comes in and this is when Jess comes in.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: She didn't like, she finds out about the wedding and
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: then Jess walks in. She's like, you didn't tell me
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: all this when she's leaving. And she's talking about like
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: how many people in China or whatever. And that's how
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: long her to-do list is. She's holding her purse like
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: by the opening, like by the, by where the zipper is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: And then when it cuts back to her, now all
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of a sudden she's holding it by the strap when
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: she walks out the door. Clearly two different takes. Kind
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: of a minor thing, but she's holding it. The zipper's open,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and she's holding it by the opening of the bag,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and then the second time she's holding it by the handle.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I will say the last couple episodes, I don't know
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: if you have more, but I didn't really see any
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: major call-outs. No! No! I think the last one you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: called out was the building, which we realized was the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Disney building. But it wasn't even that big.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a quick.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: That's just a landscape of.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You had to look real fast to see that one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're definitely hitting their groove.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: On top of it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen a mic drop.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Scripty's on it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scripty is on it. For sure.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Scripty was hoping to get renewed for season five.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scripty didn't want to lose her job. Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: All right, well, next week we're getting right to the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: second to last episode of the season, season four, episode 21.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Last Week Fights, This Week's Tights. Great title.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Meeting adjourned. Hey, everybody, don't forget, follow us on Instagram
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: at I Am All In Podcast and email us at
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: gilmore at iheartradio.com.