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What we’re hearing about the Chicago Cubs’ draft and the state of their farm system · North Side Territory: A Chicago Cubs Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Michael Bush is a really good offensive player and turn
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  Speaker 1: himself into a really good defender at first base. You're
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  Speaker 1: still looking for another level. Welcome into Northside Territory Foul
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  Speaker 1: Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm Saada Sharma with Patrick Mooney,
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  Speaker 1: where your Cubs beat writers for the Athletic and we
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  Speaker 1: are talking all Cubs today. We're going to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about the draft, a little bit about the
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  Speaker 1: state of the Cubs farm system and and who can
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  Speaker 1: impact the team now, who can be traded for impact
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  Speaker 1: players now? And and you know, just the better, better
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  Speaker 1: overall vibes of the system, but the need for for
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  Speaker 1: that to produce results on the major league team and
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  Speaker 1: the field, to show fans like you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: more than just a hyped system. There's there's some results here. Uh, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: how have you been enjoying this madness with You've taken
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  Speaker 1: much of the bulk of the of the draft information,
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  Speaker 1: which I appreciate, But how you what have you gathered
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  Speaker 1: from that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean to I've I have not slept since Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I've been grinding on tape non stop. I've been you know,
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  Speaker 2: checking exit vlos. I had to google ev ninety just
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  Speaker 2: to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: I knew what that was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Cubs have twenty future Hall of famers they're
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  Speaker 2: about to sign, so you know, it was.
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  Speaker 3: No, I I can'd.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good to talk about the drafts on
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  Speaker 2: that been on my mind of like I think you
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  Speaker 2: feel the same way of like I loved covering it
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  Speaker 2: in June. It was such a good like change of
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  Speaker 2: pace because you know, whatever, it's middle of June. You've
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  Speaker 2: got you know, you've given up time for the major
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  Speaker 2: league season. You can use a change of pace. But
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  Speaker 2: having it here during this week is just a classic
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  Speaker 2: major League baseball unforced error that literally no one likes
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  Speaker 2: this setup and like inside Baseball for our listeners, but
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  Speaker 2: it shows you just how tone depf major League Baseball
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  Speaker 2: can be. Like it's not good for players who have
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  Speaker 2: this kind of like you know, dead time between the
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  Speaker 2: end of their season and there's not much runway left
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  Speaker 2: once you do sign gms want to focus on their
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  Speaker 2: major league team and get into the trade deadline. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, in terms of marketing or in terms of
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  Speaker 2: like media priorities, it's like you've got all star selections
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  Speaker 2: that you got to write about. You've got kind of
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  Speaker 2: the All Star break, mid season analysis, You've got the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline, so to like, I don't know, go wild on,
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  Speaker 2: you know some of these kids we've never heard of,
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  Speaker 2: Like it is silly, but I did learn a lot
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  Speaker 2: from chatting with and listening to Dan Kantrovitz, the Cubs
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  Speaker 2: vice president scouting, and can share the extent that I
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  Speaker 2: know anything about this, be happy to chat it up here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'll just reiterate what you said there, like
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  Speaker 1: why have the draft now? Like it is the most
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  Speaker 1: frustrating thing for people in the game and for media
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  Speaker 1: as well, Like we don't want to cover this right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like what there are probably five teams that aren't
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  Speaker 1: fully engaged as far as their writers wanting to write
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  Speaker 1: about the season right now, especially with the way the
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  Speaker 1: baseball is set up, like so many teams are still
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  Speaker 1: in it. You want to kind of look at the
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  Speaker 1: first half, the unofficial first half, and what the teams need,
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  Speaker 1: Like the trade deadline's coming up. It's just really bad,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no attention paid to it. Like I love
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  Speaker 1: the draft. I think it's fun and interesting. I'm always
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  Speaker 1: into prospects and trying to understand who's next. I just
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  Speaker 1: could didn't have the time to get into it this year.
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  Speaker 1: Like I texted some context and said, hey, I'll be
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  Speaker 1: in touch, but I don't have time to do the
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  Speaker 1: preview stuff because there's too much crap going on.
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  Speaker 3: Especially when they're picking like fourteenth two.
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  Speaker 1: We'd be all over it right right kind of like
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's and it's like there's an obvious time.
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  Speaker 1: What the point you made about like them being down,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's that's unhealthy for them. Now now they their
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  Speaker 1: season has ended, they've ramped down, and now they get
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  Speaker 1: like what like half the picks probably of each team,
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  Speaker 1: like you probably like ten get like go to like
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  Speaker 1: instructs or what have go to Arizona or Florida wherever
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  Speaker 1: their their team's uh spring training complexes and and work
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  Speaker 1: out and whatever, do that stuff, but like half of
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  Speaker 1: them probably play and they have to ramp back up.
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  Speaker 1: The Arizona Complex League is I think about to wrap up,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? Or is that the I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Sure one of those. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: So some of these leagues are kind of ramping down,
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  Speaker 1: like where it's it's weird. I don't know, maybe not
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Complex League it's it's probably DSL and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's uh, that's wrapping up. But still it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: just terrible. It's it's going to end up. By the
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  Speaker 1: time they sign, it's like a month of games for
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  Speaker 1: them to play, but when do they ramp up, so
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  Speaker 1: it'll be two weeks of games for them to play.
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  Speaker 1: It's just poorly set up. So like let's get into
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  Speaker 1: the pick that the number one pick primarily camp Smith. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I like I like the I listened to some of
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  Speaker 1: his inviws. Uh, seems like he's a talkative kid. Seems
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  Speaker 1: like he's he's got a nice little backstory with the Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: You know that that's going to attract fans. It's a
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  Speaker 1: perfect little tidbit for Marquis to put up and make
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  Speaker 1: a commercial out of, right, Like, like I think it
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  Speaker 1: was like set up for that almost it was so
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  Speaker 1: perfect like for Marquis to make it. If he ever
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  Speaker 1: makes his debut, you know that's being brought back. Uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like a nice player, like a
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  Speaker 1: very similar profile to what Canterbitz has proven. He kind
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  Speaker 1: of likes these college guys with great cape cod seasons
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  Speaker 1: improve over their course, Like look at Josh Rivera, that's
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  Speaker 1: one guy that they drafted last year. Terrible. I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, like freshman or sophomore year, really like improved
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  Speaker 1: over the course of his college career. Camp Smith only
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  Speaker 1: two seasons. I think he was an older freshman. Really
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  Speaker 1: improved from freshman year Cape Cod League sophomore year. And
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  Speaker 1: you like to see stuff like that actual player development,
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  Speaker 1: And from my understanding, what you gathered was counterbits and
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  Speaker 1: the player development group have have some ideas or some
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  Speaker 1: that they see something that they may be able to
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  Speaker 1: do to get more out of him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the funny part about some of this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, we absolutely love the player and we have
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  Speaker 2: like ten things we want to change as soon as
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  Speaker 2: he puts on the Obviously, that's you know ingest an oversimplification.
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  Speaker 2: That definitely a very Cubs pick in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: You can go back to the THEO era as well,
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  Speaker 2: with Jason McLeod and Matt Dorry running things like love
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  Speaker 2: they loved the college.
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  Speaker 3: Hitters, and.
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  Speaker 2: Smith said, you know, after the season, I had no zooms,
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  Speaker 2: no meetings.
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  Speaker 3: No phone calls with the Cubs. And then he said
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  Speaker 3: something like, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing, and like, I like that,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'd ask Cantribitz about that, and you
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  Speaker 2: know what he said was, we got to know this
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  Speaker 2: guy our area scout believe it's Ralph Rais when he
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  Speaker 2: was coming out of high school and wasn't sure how
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  Speaker 2: hard to go in the draft because he had Florida
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  Speaker 2: State in his back pocket. And really what the draft
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  Speaker 2: has become, it's really financial negotiations. You know, Like clearly
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  Speaker 2: I think camp Smith would have been, you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best like thousand players draft eligible, say two
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  Speaker 2: years ago, but you know, you have to kind of
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  Speaker 2: make it worth his while. And I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: interesting that Cam said, you know, going to school was
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  Speaker 2: the best decision I ever made. And so the Cubs
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  Speaker 2: got to know him a little bit while he was
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  Speaker 2: in high school. They saw him play shortstop, which gives
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  Speaker 2: them confidence that he can stick at third base. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Kenstrivit said, quote zero concerns about staying at the
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  Speaker 2: hot corner, and so you know, it's definitely very on
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  Speaker 2: brand for this franchise.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Smith was kind of asked about the Cubs like here
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  Speaker 2: and there, and I just wanted to clarify because you
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  Speaker 2: never know, right, like someone be like you, I think
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  Speaker 2: Kate Horton was going to go would have played with
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  Speaker 2: Ed Howard like like I think they had been on
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  Speaker 2: kind of the same recruiting circuit to Oklahoma and with
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  Speaker 2: agencies and like you know, the travel ball culture. I
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  Speaker 2: was just kind of curious, you know, if Cam had
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  Speaker 2: any connections to the Cubs existing or the city of Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: and that was kind of where he had said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: his grandparents.
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  Speaker 3: Or from Indiana or at least lived in Indiana when
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  Speaker 3: he was a young boy.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't remember like exactly how old he was or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but he got he.
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  Speaker 3: Took the tour of Wrigley Field, and like you said, Zada,
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  Speaker 3: that was the perfect marquee commercial right there.
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  Speaker 2: But definitely someone who has a little bit of charisma,
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  Speaker 2: like on the zoom you know, he you know, say
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  Speaker 2: each person's name of you know, how you doing Andy,
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  Speaker 2: or you know what's up Patrick, like just you know
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  Speaker 2: very which is obviously like a super small thing that
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  Speaker 2: makes like reporters go, oh my god, he's so personal.
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  Speaker 2: He's so charismatic, like read someone's name off the zoom screen.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, real physical player has some some personality, long
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  Speaker 2: track record of performance against high levels of competition, and
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  Speaker 2: and that is a point Kendip. It's made as well
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  Speaker 2: of like when you're a programmed like Florida State and
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  Speaker 2: you're going to the College World Series, the access is
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  Speaker 2: just more limited to the player than if he was
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  Speaker 2: still in high school.
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  Speaker 3: So they felt very comfortable to the point where he.
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  Speaker 2: Was not a guy they felt they needed to get
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  Speaker 2: to know at the draft combine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like the idea of being high level competition.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he would have played Wake Forest a few
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  Speaker 1: times right in the ACC. That's obviously one of the
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  Speaker 1: elite teams going right now. Yeah, from what I've read
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  Speaker 1: and what I've gathered from some of my contacts is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the end zone swinging miss is low,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't chase too much. He's you know, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if he sticks at third. It sounds like the Cubs
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  Speaker 1: are optimistic. But as far as offensive profile, it's like
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  Speaker 1: this is becoming like all the like It's what the
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  Speaker 1: spreads sheet spits out right, Like I have model, the models,
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  Speaker 1: the model likes guys like this, And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that the scouts don't. I'm not suggesting that the Cubs
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  Speaker 1: don't value their scouts. It's like this is a model driven, uh,
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  Speaker 1: model heavy amateur scouting department, and and the scouts are valued.
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  Speaker 1: But that's like, look at the draft picks. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of model guys that they like, and I that's frankly,
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  Speaker 1: the results in the minors so far suggest that they're
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  Speaker 1: they're doing good work. They're they're they're getting some guys
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  Speaker 1: that are popping up in later rounds. They're getting guys
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  Speaker 1: that you know, are making a name for themselves in
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  Speaker 1: the miners. I guess, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: dive too deep into the rest of the draft. Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: We we can. We can maybe save that for another
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  Speaker 1: time when both of us have gathered more info, or
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  Speaker 1: we can.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about it six years from now when we right.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly, but I think so this is so,
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  Speaker 1: this is the this is the point of of what
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  Speaker 1: the draft is, right, Like, you want more than first rounders.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's a reason why Dan Canterwittz was brought in.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why changes were made. The Cubs had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of success with first rounders and outside of
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  Speaker 1: the draft, you highlighted recently. The twenty fourteen draft just
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  Speaker 1: not allowed of success outside of the first round, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like we there's like David Bodie is the name from
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  Speaker 1: from the previous group outside of the first round, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously Justin Steel's a stud, Dylan Cees turned into a stud,
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  Speaker 1: and and that's There's not much else. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're starting to see some guys pop up
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  Speaker 1: as far as relievers go, like Hunter Biggie. I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember when Porter Hodge was gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Porter Hodge. O. This is Jeremiah Strata.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, awesome for the Brewers. DJ Hurris has had
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  Speaker 2: some kind of lights out starts for the Nationals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just some of this stuff takes time.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird too that I think all of those names
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  Speaker 2: we just mentioned came out of high school. Yeah, college,
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  Speaker 2: I think that might have a little more certainty with
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  Speaker 2: college arms and Cubs had couple here or there, But
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, it's been those high school guys that.
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  Speaker 3: Took a while.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you can really speak to this that
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  Speaker 2: I was going over my old notes and it was
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  Speaker 2: a Cubs executive talking about Dylan Cees how that he
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  Speaker 2: was drafted and they knew he was gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: undergo Tommy John surgery, and so the Cubs kind of
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  Speaker 2: presented this plan of how it would go and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the care he would get, the supervision, he would get,
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  Speaker 2: the resources he'd be provided, and see was like I
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  Speaker 2: guess continues to be like very just curious about pitching
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  Speaker 2: and these a little.
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  Speaker 3: Offbeat.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you would say, I'm just thinking about that, like
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  Speaker 2: poem he did, I don't know, slider poems and things
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  Speaker 2: like that, but like someone who was just like really
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  Speaker 2: interested in some of these like technologies and resources and
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  Speaker 2: ideas that the Cups were just kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of bringing online. And there was certainly some trial and error.
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  Speaker 3: Craig Breslo came in later.
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  Speaker 2: And expanded it and defined it in different ways. But
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  Speaker 2: like that kind of long tail of development, I think
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing it with someone like Porter Hodge and side
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  Speaker 2: of you had mentioned his name, you know, weeks ago
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  Speaker 2: before he came up, of like when the bullpen was imploding,
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  Speaker 2: like who can help? And I do think that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be one of the bigger second half storylines here of
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  Speaker 2: like you know, who can help?
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  Speaker 3: Who can they like get better and that's almost the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline will be a part of that too. But
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  Speaker 3: just like can they.
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  Speaker 2: Get those young guys to another level here and like
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  Speaker 2: late July, August, September and you know win what's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot more you know, one run kind
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  Speaker 2: of narrow type games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to you do have to
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  Speaker 1: give a little credit here to how they've what they've
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  Speaker 1: done with pitching development. Right, We've talked about it plenty,
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  Speaker 1: but like that, we're seeing some fruits of the labor
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  Speaker 1: and and like is there more? Is there more? Like
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  Speaker 1: when that the the player development when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: position players would like to see the results at the
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  Speaker 1: major league level, we're seeing like like you go look
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  Speaker 1: at some of these numbers, It's like, huh, maybe this
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  Speaker 1: guy can help. Well, when are they going to help?
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  Speaker 1: I guess is the question? I think, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have to look at someone like Matt Shaw and say,
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  Speaker 1: is this guy going to impact the team this year?
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  Speaker 1: With what two months ago? We were talking about that, right, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: you and I had little tidbits in our pieces bringing
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  Speaker 1: that up. I'm not sure if that's still the case,
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  Speaker 1: Like where it's going to really dictate, like is he
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  Speaker 1: is he on the verge of coming to tripa A.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like he probably is, Like we could probably
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  Speaker 1: hear a move there in the next couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: if not soon after the break. That, yes, that puts
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  Speaker 1: him on the verge, right, just like Mois's biosterus, who's
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  Speaker 1: probably on the verge. And then it becomes where's the
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  Speaker 1: need and what's the like what's the focus of the team? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it twenty twenty four? Is it twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five? Yeah? Good point, and what kind of moves
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  Speaker 1: are they making in the next two weeks here? But
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  Speaker 1: this system is it's at an interesting point in that
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  Speaker 1: and we keep writing this where's the impact talent? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes impact talent surprises us, right, Like Matt Shaw could
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  Speaker 1: come up and like like these number, like we hear
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  Speaker 1: that he's hitting the ball and the impacting the ball
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  Speaker 1: in the same way and double A is weird right now,
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  Speaker 1: and his numbers should be even better. I think his
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  Speaker 1: numbers are good for where the league that he's in,
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  Speaker 1: Like if he's if he is what he looks like
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  Speaker 1: he is, what position is he? I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's an impact player? Is that an MVP or a
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  Speaker 1: really good player, Like they have a few of those, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like as frustrating as says Azuki or Ian Hapkin be
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  Speaker 1: go look at their numbers in general. They're really good players, right,
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  Speaker 1: They're not superstars. Michael Bush is a really good offensive
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  Speaker 1: player and turn himself into a really good defender for
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  Speaker 1: a space You're still looking for another level. It's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to develop, really hard to find. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: if they have that. Moys's bit by asteris looks really impressive.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that he's doing that at twenty, I do
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  Speaker 1: wonder can he help this team this year? Like you
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  Speaker 1: would have posed that to me even a month ago,
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  Speaker 1: I would have said slow down, But he just keeps
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  Speaker 1: hitting and you know, like what what what does that
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  Speaker 1: look like? What how does that impact the team? Has
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  Speaker 1: he almost like leaped someone like Owen Casey. As far
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  Speaker 1: as the pecking order of who they who they may
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  Speaker 1: call upon, I think it all depends on what like
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  Speaker 1: these like what are they looking to do with these guys?
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  Speaker 1: What do they see best for their player development? And
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: what is what situation is the team in Like if
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the team is competing, does that inhibit them from calling
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: them up? Or if the team is selling. Is it like, no,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we don't want to bring them up in this situation,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: or or maybe they do, maybe they want to no
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: pressure situation. Like it's just like those those factors I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: think really matter here. And of course what we'll get
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: into tradable guys too. But maybe I'm curious what you've heard,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Uh you've been on the road a little bit and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: talk to some people as far as the chance for
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: someone like Moises by a steros.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, I wouldn't say it's like imminent or probable,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: but it's not a crazy thought.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it's something that internally they have to consider.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: When he's at Triple A Iowa, he plays catcher to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: what extent or at what level? I'm not quite sure.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: We've seen how hard it's.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Been for Miguel Amaya as an older guy to adjust
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: who for all the injuries that I had, like he
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: did have more experience than at a higher level.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So you know, I'm surprised that, Or I should say,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: if the cups like didn't call a Casey or Shaw
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: or any of those guys when their offense is just
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: an absolute tail spin, and when counsel is saying things
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: like you know, the the answer is rarely the next player,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like the answers aren't here. I think that is, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a pretty strong belief. We were talking about this the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: other day. You mentioned how well Miles master Bony has
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: played at third base, Like it almost makes you feel
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: like he has to be part of that equation there,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: particularly as you wrote against while playing behind ground ball
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: pitchers like Hendrix and Steel, like someone who can convert
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: those double plays or get to those balls, you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: before they go into the outfield. Like all that stuff
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: adds up in a really meaningful way. So you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I think the Cubs went into the season like maybe
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: sew our case he does kind of force our hand,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and I don't That's not the vibe I'm getting.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: But Mois's I think is a guy who when.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You look at you know, twenty years old hitting at
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that level, I mean that's I mean we were told,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you know, at this time last year, this guy's got
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: a sweet left handed swing, and I think he was
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: an a.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Ball at that point.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Those people were right on, and so that is obviously
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a position of need. And I think you're right to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: point out, like we have no idea what the landscape
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: will be like in August and September, Like, is this
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: team going to be in it going forward and need
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: specific things that specific moments or is it going to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: be kind of playing out the string? And I don't
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: know the answer to this either, but like what is
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what did Pete Crow Armstrong's.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Debut kind of tell the Cubs? I mean, that did
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: not go very well.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to on the bases and play great defense,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and there were a lot of over anxious, over eager
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: moments there that just did not really match up. Now,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to Pete's credit, he came back a better player and
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I think he learned from that, and his counsel has
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: done a good job of telling him just focus on X.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Y and Z and don't worry about the offense.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But like, that did not go well last year, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: you know, the Cubs are going to be playing one
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: run games in mid to late September. They can't have
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: some of the mistakes that happened with Pete and that
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was kind of given ninety feet to the other team,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know, diving for balls that you just let fall
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: in front of you, or like getting thrown out at
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: third base. It's just like stuff like that. I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: leaves the Cubs in a really interesting spot here, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the central tension to like Jed's time
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: here of like how how much do you prioritize and
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: protect that you know, kind of abstract future and how
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: much of it is just kind of like going for
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: it right now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the PCA promotion is kind of instructive
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: on a few things, Like you really got to emphasize
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to the guy like, hey, you're not here to save anything.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: You're here, Yeah, here's your role, Here's what we need
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you to do. Don't trying to press anyone. Like he
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was going one hundred miles per hour, Like everything that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he did we've seen this year. He's a better base
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: runner than he showed last year. Like there was such
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: reckless things that he did on the bass Pats that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was just trying to do stuff
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and wasn't like paying attention to a scouting report. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: like Elias Diaz has this cannon for an arm and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: got him I think a couple times in Colorado right
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that that stands out to me. And just like the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: lack of familiarity with his corner outfielders, things like that,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: just like he was he was trying to make plays
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: instead of just letting it come to him. I do
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: feel like it's gotten better there. Well, like it was
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: also instructive I think for all of us as far
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: as analysis of that, Like he had what like twenty
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: plate appearances or something like that, and we like, like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: even Jed was saying, like, well we saw what his
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: weakness was, did we? Like we thought it was the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: high fastball. It's because that's all they threw him. Like
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's what Like, isn't that like old baseball
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: maxim like, here's my fastball, try and hit it. I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you until you can't exactly for me,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you can hit it. Well, he didn't prove he could
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: hit it right or lay off of the high one.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: We didn't get to really see as other holes. Now
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: we're starting to see them right, like the breaking ball
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: down and in and like I talked to Pete about this,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He's he's immensely frustrated by how he his struggles with that,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: but he also knows like I'm going to put in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the work and like this is something that I talk
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to other people about, like they that's not a concern
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: him putting in the work, his focus, his ability to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: identify these issues. It's always like, what do they come
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: out the other side? You just don't know. Right, you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: can put in all the work, you just don't know
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: if they come out on the other side. I think
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: they do believe that this. This leads me to another topic. Patrick.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: There's I look at their top I look at like
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the updated top one hundreds. Most of them have like
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: seven cups on this list. Right, there's Kevin al Contra
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is one of them, right, and he's starting to look
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: better at the plate after finally being healthy in a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: really terrible slow start. One thing I get from scouts
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: around the game is and someone told me this. Someone
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: told me in pretty much twenty to twenty five other orgs,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: he'd be the best center fielder, he'd be the best
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: defensive center fielder. Cubs are lucky enough to have one
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: of the elites in Armstrong. That really changes things because
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it went from this guy's going to be a power
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: hitting corner outfielder to whoa, whoa wait, this guy figured out,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like he's got these long limbs, long strides, can cover
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a ton of ground in center field. He's pretty fast
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and he's got this offensive upside if he can play center, Like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: suddenly that's a really I mean, it was always a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: really valuable prospect, but now it's like it makes it
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: like scouts are more interested, even more interested and intrigued
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that like now they have to weigh what like how
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: do they handle that? Is is he a trade piece now? Right?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Is he a trade piece in the off season? Do
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: they get bowled over for an like do they fall
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in love with all Contra and get bowled over for
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: an offer for Pete crow Armstrong? Right? These are the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: way like very much like value oriented decisions that they
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: have to that they have to make. Another name I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: would pay attention to if the Cubs are buyers, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think we need to couch this with it's going
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to be really hard for them to be buyers for rentals,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: especially if they're giving up a bigger prospect, right for
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: bigger names. Yeah, yeah, they like, it's just going to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: be hard, Like they unless they win the next ten
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to fifteen games or something like that and and like
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: go to eighty percent playoff something, you know, chances it's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just very unlikely. So, but James Trianto's has upped his
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: value as well, and we talked so much about Match Show.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It's because you and I both hear a ton of
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: positive from the ORG on mattch Shaw. This org loves
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: match Shaw, right, we've heard that pretty much like a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: month after they drafted him, we've been hearing nothing but
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: rave reviews. I talked to someone in the ORG that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: said it, you know, he, like Trianto's, is right behind
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Shaw as far as the work ethic and the dogged
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: nature at which they take how seriously they take their
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: craft when especially like in the cage and working with
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: coaches and really like understanding what they need to do
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to improve. And if you look at his career path
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: so far, he's kind of done that. Like it was like, Okay,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this is this is the guy that will put the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ball in play, but he'll never really tap into power.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I believe, like I don't have his numbers in front
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of me, but I believe he's starting to tap into
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that power now. Yeah. Yeah, he's doubled his ISO this
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: year or nearly. He's he's a much better prospect than
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he was entering the season. And like Shaw, he's like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you know, like you're not one hundred percent where he's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: playing you could see him at second, you could see
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: him somewhere like in the outfield if needed, you could, like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I think shop has a better chance of sticking in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the infield than Toreanto's does. But regardless, like this is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a bat forward prospect that that people like I would
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: pay attention to those two names. Right when it comes
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to possible trades. If the Cubs are being aggressive, it
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: would have I think it would have to be to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: help twenty twenty five too, So we may be talking
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: about this again in the off season. Those are the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: types of things that I think about when I look
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: at the like at least the top of the Cubs
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: prospect you know, they're like top seven to eight prospects.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's what I think about. And I'll just add like
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I do like the depth they're creating. Every single time
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I look like you and I like looked at each other, like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: what is this draft pick with Jackson Wiggins? He's I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: know it's the lower levels, but he looks pretty good.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Like they they're they're doing well as far as early
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: results with their draft so far. Right, Like I think
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I'm going to give them a pass because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of how weird that was, and it was the beginning
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of a new regime and it wasn't fully formed. Like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I want to see results on the major league field,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but I do. I do think I'm seeing like it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: never was like this where it's like it's not just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the first round guy that you're paying. Like if you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: look up box scores or tough to scouts, they're like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting, this guy's this guy could be
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a fifth starter. This like Jackson Wiggins, who knows what
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: his upside is, he could be a top one under
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: prospect someday. Like that's that wasn't happening. It just wasn't.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two interesting thoughts there with uh, I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: glad you mentioned Trianto's because he I believe he's just
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in the All Star Futures Game and he you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: he's someone who reclassified to come out into the draft earlier.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And what the Cubs said then was like, this is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: What the best college hitters in the draft look like
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: in high school and just for comparison. James Triantos was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: born in January two thousand and three. Cam Smith was
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: born in February two thousand and three, and Treanto's already
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: has a very nice half season at Double A Tennessee
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: where we don't know exactly why or what's going on,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but the offensive numbers are down. It is not a
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: good offensive environment, and Trianto's has an OPS close to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: eight hundred, and so I think this is something that
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Jed has wrestled with for a while now of like
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: what is the best version of the Cubs?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: What is the longest runway?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And a lot of these kind of contracts are timed
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: up through twenty twenty six, and so like much as
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: you love Nico Horner, like kind of what happens to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: him after that?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And Ianhab.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: By the end of twenty twenty six will be a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: free agent, won't have no trade clause, like spots will open.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But the problem that I think Jed would agree with
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: is that Triple A Baseball is like, if it's not worthless,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it's not a very productive tool in terms of like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: helping a player.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Finish off his development. Like there's a huge gap between
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the show and IOWA.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: It's maybe bigger than it's ever been, and so like
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: kind of waiting around for that is extremely difficult, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: then that runs the risk of I was just looking
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: through kind of the cups forty man of you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it's really unfortunate. But like Brennan Davis is hurt again,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the pitching, like how long can it stay healthy? And
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: we're looking at now Kate Horton laps we heard heading
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: into the All Star break was like throwing off a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: flat ground in Arizona. That does not sound like someone
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: who's going to be ramped up really hard and really
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: fast to get to Wrigley Field. And now there you
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: take a number seven pick who already had Tommy John,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: who didn't have a lot of innings on his resume.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: To begin with.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: That to me, just speaking as an interpreter, not like
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: hard information, doesn't sound like he's going to be back
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: very soon or like that they're going to like push
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: this hard to get him back. Jordan Wicks was he
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: is is an oblique His recovery from that had sort
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: of plateaued at least that's what it was last week,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and counsels said that you could remove him from that
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: group of pictures. They hoped to get healthy by the.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: End of July.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And now, like Jordan Wicks is not John Lester, okay,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: but like he's shown, he's like a competent major league
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: starter and has like an interesting you know, kind of
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: he brings something interesting to the table, and I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you can project you a nice long major league career,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: but he hasn't done that yet. He hasn't like dominated yet.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And Ben Brown as well. I mean, when he was
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: throwing that no hitter against the Brewers were flirting with
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a no hitter, it was like, oh, man, that David
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Robertson trade, Like Jad's a genius and like it was
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a good trade. Interesting pitcher's got great stuff. Interesting dude
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: as well, very thoughtful and curious, but like you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: he's been kind of stuck in catch play unless something's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: changed here during during the All Star break, but that
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: did not sound like a I they were close to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: activating because he's still feeling those symptoms in his neck.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And so because you're.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Curious how to ask counsel, I was like, yeah, someone's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: asking me this, what Like I'm assuming you don't have
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: an answer. Yeah, but whenever he is healthy, like what
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: sort of role would he be?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: And he's like, just get out. So it's like, oh outgetter.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: He's like it is like murk on his face, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, outgetter. I got it, so in
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: case you're wondering to see him as an outgetter in
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Side, he mentioned that he mentioned something similar to me
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in Saint Louis about outgetterings. I'm like, you know what,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the fans love that they love hearing this outgetter h
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: which was obviously me just giving it back to him. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: he I love I do. I mean, he's right, it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: so sometimes it's so like it's uh he also, I'm
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: getting a little in the weeds here. But at one point,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we kind of ask more questions after the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: camera's gone right, like but it's still on the record,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but it's it's just us reporters, and as the camera's
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: kind of walking away, I kind of like sometimes I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like have my mouth open or like you can tell
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, and he's like, he looks at me.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, you have more, don't you? You didn't like
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: my answer? You didn't like my answer about hitting with
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: runners in scoring position? Well, what was that not good
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: enough for me?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: It mustn't be.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, the answer is fine. I
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: was going to a different topic, but I just he
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: likes to poke fun and he likes to he knows
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: some of his sayings aren't satisfactory. I think to the masses, right,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I would get it. He's satisfactory to everyone. They're like, no,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's a closer, No he's a starter. No, he's an
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: eighth inning setup man. That's not how his brain works.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: He's looking together twenty seven outs and like it's like
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: when I asked him, one of the first questions I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: ever asked him was about value of of like how
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the impact of a of a superstar in the lineup
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and and ultimately it's like you're piecing together wins. It's like,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: if it's one guy has eight is worth eight, fine,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: But if you can have a few other guys that,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you know, if you have a five and a three,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that can maybe equal the same thing. Right, But it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: not satisfactory always, it's not. It doesn't always like for
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the average baseball fan especially, but it's not how his
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: mind works anyways. Yeah, he's a this A I think
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: there's this is going to be a busy like next
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks beyond just what we just talked about, right, Like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of ins and outs as far as
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the injuries go like Mike Talkman is supposed to be back.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: It sounds like Friday for sure. Uh, there's a minor
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: move that was made. Daniel Planci was sent down and
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  Speaker 1: they added a player from Kansas City a relief. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm meant to look this up. Is he on
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  Speaker 1: the forty man because then there's another move coming.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus to Noco. Okay, I don't know if I pronounce
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  Speaker 2: that right. I don't know if he's on the forty man.
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  Speaker 2: I assume not because there wasn't another move conveyed to us,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't I think that, Like Julian Merriweather's really close.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's just a lot of things happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see how they handle it.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Brendan Davis. There's Matt Morvis and Nick Maderill
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  Speaker 1: are both Minor league on the Minor League IL. That's
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  Speaker 1: three guys not on your roster on the IL and
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  Speaker 1: the minors with decently significant injuries. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: they're going to handle all this stuff. That's up to
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  Speaker 1: them to figure out. We'll we'll obviously give you guys
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  Speaker 1: the news when we have more of it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right now. We're just waiting to see what happens in
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the second half. Like it's a very weird spot that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the Cubs are in because it's yet again we're in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this like we're not clear on what they're doing. This
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: feels a little different than last year because last year
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  Speaker 1: happened so quickly where we shifted and it's felt like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: every day we were changing our minds. It's a different
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: feeling because of what they have on the roster, right,
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  Speaker 1: so we know it's not going to be some huge
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  Speaker 1: sell off and it's not going to be a completely
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  Speaker 1: different team whether they buy or sell. It just isn't
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: like especially if they if it's sell, quote unquote, it
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  Speaker 1: won't be a majorly different team. All right, Patrick, We'll
• 38:18
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  Speaker 1: in covering this team all week and they're during their
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: homestand and then next week in ac and Sincy before
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline. It's going to be hectic. We will
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