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USF Gets Run Over By The UTSA Road Runners · 4th AND BULL

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  Speaker 1: name is Nick Weiss. Thank you guys so much for
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  Speaker 1: checking out another episode. We are going to talk all
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  Speaker 1: about that UTSA game on Thursday night. I forget what
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  Speaker 1: A lot of questions. The normal Tim Peck questions. I
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  Speaker 1: let me pull up, uh, I hate how the iPad
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  Speaker 1: settings on that. So we have a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today. This team has officially underachieved. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 10 years ago in college football, if a new coach
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  Speaker 1: came in and this is how they were playing and
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  Speaker 1: there were four and two, you would be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's your number one. You know, it's year one. These
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  Speaker 1: things take three to four years. And that's not the
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  Speaker 1: case anymore. And I know that it feels like fans
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  Speaker 1: are being impatient. And fans are being impatient, let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: But in this new world of college football, coaches don't
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  Speaker 1: need three or four years to get it together. They don't.
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  Speaker 1: You're able to use the transfer portal. You are able
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  Speaker 1: to bring in your own guys pretty quick. You know,
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, a coach would take a job
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  Speaker 1: and they would try to keep the players that were
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  Speaker 1: already committed who don't even necessarily fit their system. And
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  Speaker 1: then the next year they'd start recruiting their guys in
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  Speaker 1: the year after. And then year three and four, those
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  Speaker 1: guys they recruited finally get to, to play. And you
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  Speaker 1: finally see the new coaches system. Well, that's not college
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  Speaker 1: football anymore. College football is everybody wants what Kurt Cignetti
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  Speaker 1: is doing. And Cignetti did it at Indiana, which was, uh,
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, a school that never won anything.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I believe they were losing his program when
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  Speaker 1: he took over, if I'm not correct. They're a basketball school.
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  Speaker 1: And so he comes in in his first year, and
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  Speaker 1: he takes them to the college football playoff, and then
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  Speaker 1: in year two, he wins a national championship. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that Brian Hartline's got to come in here
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  Speaker 1: and win a national championship, but folks see it being
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  Speaker 1: done in other places, and they want it done at
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  Speaker 1: their place too. And A school like USF that has
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  Speaker 1: pretty good NIL and has a lot of momentum going
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  Speaker 1: and you hire a big name head coach, the expectations
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  Speaker 1: are high even in year number one. And guess what?
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  Speaker 1: It's fair. That is college football today. Again, if Brian
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  Speaker 1: Hartline took over this job 10 years ago, let's say
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  Speaker 1: USF was in a completely different position 10 years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but let's say everything, the way that the, let's just
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  Speaker 1: say USF has forward momentum, stadium's about to be built,
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  Speaker 1: all the things that are good about USF right now,
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  Speaker 1: let's say That all happened 10 years ago. And you
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  Speaker 1: bring in a new coach. His expectation in year number
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  Speaker 1: one wouldn't be to win the conference. It wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: that until year number three. We don't live in that
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  Speaker 1: world anymore. It is year number one. The expectation for
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  Speaker 1: Brian Hartline coming here from Ohio State, bringing in 41,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was, new transfers. The expectation is to compete
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  Speaker 1: for an American Conference Championship in year one. There are
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  Speaker 1: no excuses. All right, you do not get three to
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  Speaker 1: four years anymore. Anyone that thinks that they do need
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  Speaker 1: more time, I guess isn't paying attention to the rest
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  Speaker 1: of college football. So do I think that it's unfair
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  Speaker 1: to the coaching staff? 100%. By the way, if you
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  Speaker 1: hear my dogs barking, I'm sorry. I'm doing the show
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  Speaker 1: from the house. But, hey, Piper, shut up. I'll try
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  Speaker 1: my best to do that. I got two dogs. Piper's
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  Speaker 1: the one barking now. So... You know, it's unfair to
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  Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the school, but that is the
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  Speaker 1: world that we live in today, and they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to coach under those circumstances. So it is... All right,
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  Speaker 1: I paused the recording there because the dog was going
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  Speaker 1: nuts that time. All right, I'm back. But those are
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  Speaker 1: the circumstances of coaching nowadays, and that's just, it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. And they're going to have to coach
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  Speaker 1: under those circumstances going forward because it's the era of
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  Speaker 1: college football we are in now. So... This team, you
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  Speaker 1: can officially say, has disappointed. Now, I think they disappointed
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  Speaker 1: the fan base, but I've told you guys, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big Phil Steele guy. I think the guy knows everything.
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  Speaker 1: His college football preview magazine, this is not an endorsement,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. It's one I keep on my desk.
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  Speaker 1: It helps me learn about all the teams. Once you
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  Speaker 1: get into the season, it's not as helpful, but it
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  Speaker 1: gives you the rosters. At the beginning of the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have USF, I believe, even in the top four,
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  Speaker 1: if I remember. I'm not going to open it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go through it, but He didn't have anyone
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  Speaker 1: in the conference. And he's a guy that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's talking to the coaches. There's no one that's got
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  Speaker 1: more information than him. And so he didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: pick to win the conference. But, you know, for the
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  Speaker 1: fan base here, the expectation was the conference. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't blame you for that. This team's momentum, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like that's where they need to be is winning this conference.
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  Speaker 1: And they just haven't been able to pull it off.
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  Speaker 1: Something they did do on Thursday night is the offense
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  Speaker 1: was good. at the start of the game, which we
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen. It was actually the second half that they
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  Speaker 1: stalled out. Tim Beck, of course, is still under fire
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  Speaker 1: from the fans. There were a few plays that really,
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  Speaker 1: I think, could have won that game for USF if
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  Speaker 1: the players execute. So I've seen a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: Tim Beck stuff, and we've addressed it, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I can keep doing this on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Fans want media to call for people's jobs all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to just call for someone's job. I
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  Speaker 1: got to really know the problem. And look, we pointed
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  Speaker 1: out the play calling issues last week. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to go back and watch the last show after the
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  Speaker 1: last game, you can go back and you can get
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  Speaker 1: all of that. Bottom line is, along with the play calling,
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  Speaker 1: which I've had my complaints about at times, I still
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's the number one issue. This team doesn't
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  Speaker 1: execute well. That is beyond Tim Beck. That's on Tim
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  Speaker 1: Beck and Brian Hartline. And it's also on the players. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that in this era of college football,
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to expect more from players. And I think
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to criticize players. I look at them as
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  Speaker 1: professional athletes now. How many times have we talked to
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  Speaker 1: these kids on 4th and Bowl and you hear the words,
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  Speaker 1: if I ever ask about the transfer portal, And not
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  Speaker 1: only do I talk to USF players, I talk to
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  Speaker 1: Florida Gator players a lot as well, because my radio station, 95.7
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  Speaker 1: WDAE and AM620, if those of you that don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I have a radio show here in Tampa Bay. Check
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  Speaker 1: it out. I appreciate it. You can stream it on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: We are the home of the Florida Gators. And so
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  Speaker 1: once a week, I talk to a Gators player as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then once a week for the podcast, and I
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  Speaker 1: also air the the USF player on my radio show
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  Speaker 1: as well. That's on Wednesdays if you want to check
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  Speaker 1: it out. But you'll hear it on the radio show
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  Speaker 1: before you'll get it on the podcast. But from USF
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  Speaker 1: players and Gator players, I can't tell you how many
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  Speaker 1: times I've heard, like when I ask about the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what was it about Brian Hartline or Coach
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  Speaker 1: Summerall that brought you to USF or kept you at Florida?
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  Speaker 1: It always starts with, well, my agent. And I hate
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  Speaker 1: hearing that in college football, my agent. And it's true, though.
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  Speaker 1: It is a part of the game. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that part's frustrating. But I look at them as professional athletes.
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  Speaker 1: They have agents. And I think you can be critical
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  Speaker 1: of the fans. I think you can be critical of
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  Speaker 1: the players as well, not executing. There was one play
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  Speaker 1: in general. Now, MVB was under fire and under pressure
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  Speaker 1: pretty quick. But there was a player, Bryson Rodgers, who
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  Speaker 1: was wide open. And if he can somehow connect on
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  Speaker 1: that throw, it's a touchdown. And they're putting up 30
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  Speaker 1: points on the board. And they probably win. that game.
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  Speaker 1: Cause it probably plays out completely differently. And they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And there were a couple of plays like that. So
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  Speaker 1: as much as you want to blame it on somebody
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  Speaker 1: and look, you have every right to do it. I
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  Speaker 1: completely you're validated, right? I still think you have to look.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's too easy to, I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing last week's show. I'm going to stop with that.
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  Speaker 1: But it's too easy. It really is. It's too easy
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  Speaker 1: to just blame the play calling. Players have got to
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  Speaker 1: be held accountable. It is what it is. Do I
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  Speaker 1: think Tim Beck's a part of it? Yes. Do I
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  Speaker 1: think Brian Hartline's a part of it? 100%. The players
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  Speaker 1: are a part of it, too. I believe they all
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  Speaker 1: have equal blame right now. I don't think one coach
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  Speaker 1: has more blame than the other. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: Tim Beck's fault that this team can not perform for
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  Speaker 1: four quarters. Uh, typically it's the second half. They turn
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  Speaker 1: it up. Well, this week it was the first half. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they looked really good on the scripted drive and I
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  Speaker 1: got excited about that. And then we had to pump
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  Speaker 1: the brakes. Cause what was it going to look like
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  Speaker 1: once it wasn't, uh, scripted and, and, and they did
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  Speaker 1: well in the first half. Um, you know, I, it
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  Speaker 1: was good to see them get off to a quicker start. I,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't say well, but they did better.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, that was, that was improvement. Now I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well, the second half, I feel pretty good
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  Speaker 1: about the second half. They played good in the second half, right?
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  Speaker 1: I can, I can feel good about that going in.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to win this game on the road. And
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  Speaker 1: then they stall out in the second half. And again,
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  Speaker 1: this team fails to play four good quarters of football.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the four good quarters of football
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  Speaker 1: doesn't always happen on the defensive side of things either.
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  Speaker 1: The defense was atrocious this week. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: happened there. But this team can't. So I actually put
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  Speaker 1: that on the head coach. Brian Harlan's got to figure
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  Speaker 1: that out. This team should be able to play four quarters.
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  Speaker 1: of good solid football if they're going to be a
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  Speaker 1: good team. And, you know, we're now six games in.
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  Speaker 1: They've yet to do that. And now we're looking at
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  Speaker 1: a team that you feel has underachieved. And I think
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  Speaker 1: all of those feelings are fair. I had caught an
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  Speaker 1: interview of the UTSA head coach on, it's like Channel 84,
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  Speaker 1: college football channel. And I forgot who he was talking with.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like Danny Canal. And he had
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  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, this time of year. This kind
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  Speaker 1: of goes back to the first segment about how every
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  Speaker 1: team is going to be turn there's gonna be turnover
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  Speaker 1: every year right and that's why you can no longer
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  Speaker 1: use year one as an excuse he was talking about
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  Speaker 1: this this is the time of year where all the
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  Speaker 1: agents of his players are getting calls for other teams
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  Speaker 1: and that's happening at USF too and I just thought
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  Speaker 1: to myself man what world are we in how did
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  Speaker 1: college football get to this point and why I love
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  Speaker 1: college football that's a big reason why I'm doing this
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  Speaker 1: podcast I just love talking college football because college football
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  Speaker 1: fans are the best and they're the most passionate. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I see it from you guys and you
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  Speaker 1: see it from every college team. It's just the best.
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  Speaker 1: And then they've, they've ruined the sport, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: just like UTSA and Jeff trailer, Brian Harland's got the
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  Speaker 1: same deal here. There's guys on this team who, if
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  Speaker 1: they're playing well right now, they are going to get
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  Speaker 1: calls from other teams. And so it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a thing every single year. It's going to be new
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  Speaker 1: players and, you know, The whole thing of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: continuity and these guys have never played together. And can
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  Speaker 1: they have that continuity? You know, we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: at nauseam about the offensive line. They're very skilled. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of experience and they're all very skilled,
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  Speaker 1: but they never played together. And as a unit, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't look good at the beginning of the year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Hartline's got to figure out how in the future
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  Speaker 1: he can put all of these good pieces he brings
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  Speaker 1: in and get them to play together faster because you
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  Speaker 1: don't get time anymore. And honestly, that's at every level,
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  Speaker 1: not even just in the group of six. It's probably
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  Speaker 1: worse in the group of six, but it's like that
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  Speaker 1: at every single level. So I think Brian Hartline really,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's going to take this first year when
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  Speaker 1: it's over and really look back. And I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to, you know, look at himself in the mirror
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  Speaker 1: and we kind of talked about this on the last
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  Speaker 1: episode and he's got to look at himself and go,
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  Speaker 1: all right, whatever I'm doing right now, isn't working. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that mentality that I brought from Ohio state isn't necessary.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, there's, there's certain things that I see
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  Speaker 1: that he does and I'm like, man, you can do
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  Speaker 1: that at Ohio state. I don't know if you can
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  Speaker 1: pull that off here, but you know, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to really evolve and become a better coach just
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  Speaker 1: because he's big Brian Hartline from Ohio state. Remember I,
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  Speaker 1: If you watched the very first episode, I said it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't translate to success because he's a big name. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to go over all the reasons of why.
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  Speaker 1: You can go back and watch the previous episodes. But
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  Speaker 1: I tried to warn as many people as I could
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast, in my radio show, just because you
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  Speaker 1: got a big name doesn't mean it's going to lead
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  Speaker 1: to success right away. But I think Brian Hartline, really
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  Speaker 1: more than anyone, I know Tim Beck's the guy that
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  Speaker 1: everyone wants gone, but Brian Hartline more than anyone needs
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  Speaker 1: to grow from this year. You know, he is the
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  Speaker 1: first year head coach and, and I expect him to
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  Speaker 1: learn from this year. So I'm going to give him
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  Speaker 1: some grace. I'm not saying let's get rid of Brian Hartline.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't like what he did in the
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  Speaker 1: press conference last week. I thought it was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit tone deaf. He also addressed that in the post
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  Speaker 1: game presser. Somebody had, one of the reporters said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to paraphrase here. One of the reporters said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this team is 26 and one here is the atmosphere
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  Speaker 1: really that good or, And he took another shot at
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere. And I agree with him. The atmosphere wasn't good. But,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: you know, he doubled down on it in a way.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, they tried to sell tickets or something,
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  Speaker 1: but they could. You know, he kind of took another
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  Speaker 1: little jab at him. I thought, you know, can I
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  Speaker 1: just say ESPN and the American Conference, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: And I always blame the network. So you're going to
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  Speaker 1: shout at my dog down there. For those of you
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  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, one of my dogs. Can we just
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  Speaker 1: the networks I blame all the time. for ruining college
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  Speaker 1: football because they really are. They're the ones that want
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  Speaker 1: the 2014 playoff at the end of the day. But
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  Speaker 1: ESPN and the American Conference, what were we thinking? This
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  Speaker 1: is one of your premier games. You have two of
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  Speaker 1: your premier programs that are really good in this conference.
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  Speaker 1: They both come into the game with one loss. It's essentially,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say playoff game because they weren't
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  Speaker 1: fighting for playoff spots, but it was a... for American
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  Speaker 1: league conference championship. I mean, this was American conferences. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: got baseball on my mind, an American conference championship. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: you put this game on a Thursday night at the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: same time as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Dallas Cowboys.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? San Antonio is filled with Cowboy
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: fans and here in Tampa, there's filled with Bucs fans.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Even if they were Owen for they're going to watch
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers man, because the NFL is King and I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: don't expect the NFL to cater to college football, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: You know, when that NFL schedule came out, I don't
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: know whose schedule came out first. But the moment that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL had Dallas and Tampa Bay playing on a
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Thursday night, you've got to pivot. You can't play this game.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Because that was, you know, UTSA comes out looking pretty
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: kind of silly, selling the tickets for $ 9 and still
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: can't fill it up. That's a bad look for them.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: But I give them a little bit of grace. because
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys were playing. I don't blame UTSA. I don't
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: blame USF. I blame the American conference and I blame ESPN.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And you know what? Viewership was probably down and not
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: as many people watch this game as they should have
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: watched this game. Cause it was good. I know it
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't the result we wanted, but it was, it was
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: two good programs that are on the rise and had
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a chance to be at a standalone game in the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: college football world. And ESPN is like, Oh yeah, who
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: cares if the bucks and the Cowboys are, well, it
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: was just stupid. The American Conference needs that. And I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: know the American Conference will do anything for the networks. But, man,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: somebody needs to speak up in the room. That was
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: just stupid scheduling. Doesn't make any sense. But, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I would say the most disappointing part about the game, honestly,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't even the offense this week. The offense was what
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the offense has been. There was little improvement. What happened
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to the defense? There were a couple. The first run
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: UTSA scored, it was like Moses parting the ocean. The
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: defensive lineman just boop. And there was nobody there in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the second level of the defense. That was their worst
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: play of the season. I don't know what happened to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this defense. The run defense especially. The run defense on
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Saturday night to give up over 200 yards. I don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: even have the the box score in front of me.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I know it was over 200 yards. I mean, that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was just the worst performance we've seen from this defense.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Like the offense is what the offense is. I've come
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to not expect very much from them. They honestly gave
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: me more than I expected again, because they cut off
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to the stronger start, but the defense, I expect not
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: necessarily perfection, but I expect great defense every single week.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: That I do expect. And we did not get that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: from the defense this week. I'm trying to pull up
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the box score. But I do expect perfection from this
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: defense every single week. And what we saw on display
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: on Thursday night is not acceptable by this defense, who
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: has been the better defense all year long. 486 total
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: yards is what they ended up with. And 200. 277
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: of those yards on the ground. This is a defense,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: especially the run defense, that has been really good. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it was just like a Britain. Now, I don't know
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: if that's short week, didn't have time to prepare. And look,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: that's part of the new world of college football, too.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you're going to play these games on short notice,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: especially in the American. They love to put games on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a Thursday night, and you got more coming up. That
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: worries me right there. Now, I still have all the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: faith in the world of Coach Aldridge, but I'm a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: little worried about how unprepared these guys looked on a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: short week. You know, that part there, that is coaching.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Coaching's got to step it up there. You know, we'll
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: put the blame on players as well, but, you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that one's on the coaches. It just felt like the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: defense went a little unprepared there. And the difference from
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: this defense from a short week to a long week
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was huge. You know, this defense, and kudos to Aldridge,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: this team is ready to go each and every week.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: But on the short week, it wasn't. So what happened?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So I think USF's got to really figure out these
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and how they're going to manage these shorter weeks going
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: forward because they just kind of looked unprepared at certain levels. But,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you know, those– Just to watch them get run over
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the way they did by the Roadrunners, obviously. That was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: probably the most frustrating part of the game. And again,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I know the offense, they only put up 288 yards,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: so you're frustrated there. But it was the defense giving
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: up 486. And I was surprised that USF's run game,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that's what I thought was going to be the difference
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in this game. You'd lean on Crowder. and everything was
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: going to be good. I felt you had a really
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: good advantage going into this game because their defense gives
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: up over 200 rushing yards a game, and we didn't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: even sniff that. So what's crazy is the offense wasn't great,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and yet I still said on this podcast that they improved.
• 21:50
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• 22:13
  Speaker 1: defense was really disappointing this week. How weird was that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: play too, by the way? I thought USF actually caught
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a break. Major Dillard was so off sides and they
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: didn't call it. I mean, he was literally in the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: neutral zone. They snapped the ball. UTSA thought they had
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a free play. They throw it up to the corner
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of the end zone, and then the ref didn't throw
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the flag. I was laughing. I'm like, man, the officiating,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: even college level, NFL level, I seem to laugh at
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the officiating all the time. Major Dillard was so offside.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I think it was Major Dillard, if I remember correctly.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But that was really the only thing I could laugh
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: about when it came to the defense, because the rest
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: just kind of made me angry. I was so disappointed.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Because again, the offense didn't play great, but they put
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: up 24 points, and 24 points usually is enough with
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: this defense, and unfortunately, it wasn't against the Roadrunners. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: just can't believe they were able to run for 277 yards.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They did run 43 times, so of course those numbers
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: are going to obviously pile up, but 6.4 yards per carry,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that just cannot happen against a team like UTSA. I mean,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that can't happen against any team. They've got to be better.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: It says the announced attendance there was 17,000. I On TV,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it did not look like there were 17,000 people in
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the building, so I don't know how accurate that is.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: The next segment, I kind of had written down here
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: talking about what Heartline said Monday and the environment at
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: UTSA and how they look silly. We kind of already
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: hit that. Realignment. I've gotten a lot of messages. You
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: guys are really Worried about the realignment. And I get it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I know USF fans want that more than anything to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: go into a bigger conference. And, you know, you want
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to be elevated to the power four. And I totally understand. Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I might argue you might have a better shot at
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff where you're at if you can
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: just figure out a way to win this conference. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I get it. You want to be into the power four.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Program will make more money. Get more viewership on the logo.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: So as far as realignment goes, your play, in my opinion,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't determine whether or not that is going to happen.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I will use another program in the state as an example.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So when realignment happens, my guess is most likely the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: ACC would be where USF would have the best chance
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of ending up. I'd love for it to be in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the Big 12 because I want the War on I-4
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to return, but it feels like the ACC would be
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the most likely destination. Now, with that, there are programs
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that are trying to exit the ACC, which is going
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to give you a chance to slide in. Now, what
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: does the ACC look like once you're there? Do they
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: still consider it a power conference? I would think they would,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: but the Pac-12 was once considered a power conference. All
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: those teams left. Now they've reformed it, and it's not
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It's a really good group of six conference, but it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not the power five, right? So the ACC is going
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to lose some pretty big programs, I would think. Will
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they view it like the Pac-12, or will it be
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the power four? I think it'll still be the power
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: four because you're still going to have really big programs there,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the basketball side of things.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So it still will be a power. I think I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: just answered my own question. You're going to have teams
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like Duke and North Carolina. It's at a power level
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: because it's going to be a really good basketball conference.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: which would be really exciting for USF basketball. But, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the ACC, I feel like, is the likely destination. So
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: let me get to my point. Does your, how you're performing,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: does that dictate if you're going to get into an
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: upper conference? The answer is no, it's not. It actually,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: it involves a lot of other things. And I'm going
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to use Florida State as my example, because I believe
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they are one of, I mean, I don't believe, we
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: already know they're one of those teams that won out
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of the ACC. They want to be in the SEC
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: or the Big Ten. I don't think Florida would ever
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: let them in the SEC. So I think their only
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: destination is the Big Ten. Now, let's say the Big
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Ten wants to pick up more teams. Would they pick
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: up Florida State? Well, Florida State hasn't performed well since
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: 2023 when they went undefeated. And then after that, Florida
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: State just kind of fell apart. And they've been, I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to say irrelevant, but nationally they've been irrelevant.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: But it is still a big program. It has a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: lot of history. Now, I know some of the things
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that I'm saying about Florida State doesn't necessarily, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: USF doesn't have that rich history per se, but let
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: me get to my point here. Florida State still draws
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: in viewership, and they still hold value to a conference
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like the Big Ten. Plus, the Big Ten doesn't have
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: any teams down in the South. So I think if
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Florida State were able to get out of the ACC,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten would be their most likely destination. Now,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: because they have been so poor, Lost again last night,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: by the way. Got blown out. Would the Big Ten
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: be like, no, we don't want Florida State? No. The
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Big Ten would still take them. It's about viewership. It's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: about how many people go to the games. And that's
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: where you're going to have to do your part. Even
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when this team is disappointing you and this team is
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: down and it feels like this team is underperforming, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: still have to show up. Okay, you can't not just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm done with this team. Viewership on TV
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: still needs to be there. OK, you have to still
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: continue to watch this program each and every week. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I know the diehards listening to this show and watching
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the show. You guys will be there. You need to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: make sure everybody else is still there, too. And people
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: don't start checking out, going fishing on the weekends and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: doing other things. You still got to be there. Game day.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Still got to show up to the stadium. I don't
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: care if this team loses the next four and they're
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: under 500. You have to be there. That's the things
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that other conferences are going to look at at realignment.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: What do their ticket sales look like? What do the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: viewership on TV look like? So, yeah, I suppose the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: way you're performing could affect that, but it's going to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: be on you guys to continue to show up. USF,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the record or not, everyone knows they're on the rise,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and you have great leadership. And for the love of God,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and I know that's not all of you, Twitter is
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a disgusting place. I try not to even check my
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: mentions a lot of times because of the things people
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: say to me. Same with Instagram. It's the world we
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: live in, and eventually I'll have mental health problems because
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of social media. But the attack of Rob Higgins that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing, I was like, guys, let's pump the brakes
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit. You are under great leadership with Rob Higgins,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and he is going to open so many doors in
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay community and beyond for you. So let's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: stop with what I'm seeing on social media. But under
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the leadership of Rob Higgins, yeah, I believe that His
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: program is ascending, and I do think he is the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: guy that can get you to that next level, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: your record right now is not going to play any
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: part in that. It is going to be how much
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: value does USF have. Let's say the ACC opens their doors,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and they're going to add four, and there's five teams
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that want in. All right, well, let me open my
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: catalog here of the team. So let me see who's,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: who does good viewership on TV. Okay. Let me check
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: their attendance. Okay. They got good viewers. Okay. They hold value.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: What was their record last year? Oh, they underachieved, but money,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it all comes down to money. Oh, they were sorry.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: If I just shook the screen, it looked like there
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: was an earthquake. Oh, they're, They only won two games,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: but they made millions upon millions. Okay, we're going to go.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: We're going to take them. They don't care about whether
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're good or not. It's all about the dollars. How
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: much money can you bring? How many eyes can you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: bring to the television set? That's all that matters. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: by the way, when a team loses and you still
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: show up and you're still watching this team and you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: still sell tickets, to me, that even makes you even
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: more appealing. So. that's what they're really looking at when
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it comes to realignment. Who can make them more money?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Not who can necessarily make them better, right? Like, Florida
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: State doesn't make the Big Ten better. Florida State stinks
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: right now. But I think the Big Ten would open
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: their door for them because they do bring in money.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: They do bring in viewership. The Big Ten can stick
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Florida State in on a Friday night and it's going
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to have some eyes on the television set. So, no,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I do not believe that your performance right now is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is harming your chances in any way when it comes
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to realignment. So let's stop stressing that. All right, I
• 31:05
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• 31:41
  Speaker 1: so the mailbag, um, a lot of questions, obviously it
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: feels like I definitely get more questions after a loss, uh,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I would say the viewership was right around the same
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: after the loss last week. So I appreciate you guys
• 31:52
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• 32:00
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's get with it. Uh, what's worse offense, defense,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Tim Beck Aldridge, uh, this week, boy, I would say
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: this week it was, it was the defense. Uh, it, it,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it worries me. We kind of touched on it a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: little bit ago on a short week, uh, Aldridge did
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: not have this team prepared. The defense, what was that?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: More particularly, the run defense, what was that? That was awful.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: That was the worst performance of the year by far.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You cannot give up nearly 300 yards on the ground
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: when you are the strength of the team, especially. You know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: this team has won a lot of games because of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the defense, so I don't want to sit here and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: bury those guys because without them, then they're not even 4-2, honestly.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: But when we're talking about disappointment, I mean, look, they
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: were disappointing on both sides of the ball. But the offense,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the bar has been so low, and they kind of
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: went over that low bar a little bit. Now, they
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: didn't hit where I want them to be, but they
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: were still above the bar, which has been set here.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: They were kind of here, and our expectation was here.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: But the defense, they've been so good. And so that
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: was more underwhelming for me because– If the defense had
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: just continued to play the way they've been playing, the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: offense did play good enough to win the game. I'm
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: not saying the offense played great, but with the way
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the defense has played the previous weeks, if they played
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: just like that, then you win that game on Thursday night.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Matthew asked, are the Bulls playing down to their competition
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: or are they just meh? Love your content. Horns up.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Mad Dog 88. I don't think they've earned the right
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to if they're playing down to the competition, then. Goodbye, everybody.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm booting everybody off this team and the coaching staff
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: as well. Now I'm firing every, you're all fired. You know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: if that were happening, that's, that's not happening. This team
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: hasn't earned the right to play down to any competition.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: By the way, you don't play down to UTSA. Who's won.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: What was the number? They've won like 26 of the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: last 27 conference games at home. Something like that. Like
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: who are you playing down to? And what gives you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the right to play down to anybody? You know, these guys,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think after week one, was it Thomas Schrader we
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: talked to? He was our first guest, I think. And
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we had talked to him about what happened in week one,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and he felt it humbled everybody because when they arrived,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they kind of felt like they made it, which to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: me was weird that they all arrived here and felt
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like they made it. Because even with this program going
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: forward and momentum on the rise, Alex Golish and those
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: players' accomplishments... over the last three years, their body of work,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say here is when they arrived,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they felt like they made it
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: because the accomplishment from the three years had nothing to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: do with the guys that came in this year. So
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: why did you feel you made it? I've always thought
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that was a really weird comment from him, but about
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the team just in general, and to me that starts
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: at the top. And that's why I always said, just
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: because Brian Hartline's here doesn't mean he's made it, doesn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: mean this team has made it. You know, there were
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: so many talks about Brian Hartline when he got here,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and somebody I work with had even said, oh, how
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: long will he be the coach here? He could be
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the coach here for a long time. He also could not,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you know, there are three ways it could go. He
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: could get promoted, he could be fired, or he stays
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a long time. Those are the three outcomes. Just because
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he was Brian Hartline from Ohio State, the immediate conversations
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that always took over were, oh, how long will he
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: stay in a program like USF? It's like, why are
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: we assuming this guy's just going to be the next
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: great thing? So, you know, when this season's over, Brian
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Hartline needs to seriously step back and really learn from
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: this year. Like I said earlier in the show, he
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: more than anyone has to learn from year number one.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give him grace. It is a first-year
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: head coach. Do I think that it's been more challenging
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: than he ever thought it would be? Oh, 100%. You know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I absolutely think this is going to be an eye
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: opener for him. And I think he's going to learn
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: from it. I think it's going to make him better.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And I do think in year two, you're going to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: get a much better Brian Hartline coach. I do. He
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: is learning on the job. And that is something that
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we do have to remember. You know, I do look again.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I think guys need to win in year number one.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's important. You know, we referenced Kurt Cignetti.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Kurt Cignetti had been a head coach before, though. That
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest difference, right? You know, he had been
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a head coach before and had that experience that Brian
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Hartline just didn't have. And Brian's going to have to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: get it together. But no, I don't think they're playing
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: down to their competition. I don't I don't know why
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: they feel like. No, no. The answer is no. They're
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they're they're not because they look the same no matter
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: who they play. Christopher Brown. Not the Chris Brown, the singer,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: just Christopher Brown. He said, what does USF need to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: do to break the cycle and finally win a conference?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Are we not scouting power for guys well enough, high
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: school recruits, et cetera? What are teams like UTSA doing
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: differently than we are? Yeah, UTSA is a really good program.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And they're in the state of Texas. Now, you're in Florida,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of talent here. Texas, a little
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: bit more high school talent. Florida is one of the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: premier states. Don't get me wrong. Texas is the premier state.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: So they do get a little bit more of an overflow. Also,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: they have a more experienced coach who's been doing it
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a lot longer. Jeff Traylor has done a really, really
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: fantastic job at UTSA. So as a program and a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: coaching staff, they're just they're a little bit further along
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't mean the program overall. I just
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: mean the position they're in with that coaching staff. There's
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: more continuity on the coaching staff where here you don't
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: continuity with the players or the coaching staff. Right. So
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: but they're dealing with the same problems. They got a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: lot of transfers. We talked about what I heard from
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Jeff Traylor on that interview. Is the recruiting and the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: scouting maybe a problem? It could be. I've said the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: same thing, not to bring Florida State up again, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Florida State hits the portal every single year. And what
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I blame Florida State on and their failures is their
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: scouting department, which obviously Mike Norvell's a part of. When
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they brought in DJ Uyunglele, I'm like, what are they doing?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: What do they see in him? He wasn't good at
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Clemson at Oregon State. He ran a completely different offense
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: than what Florida State was trying to put him in
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: at Oregon State with under Jonathan Smith. It was a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: lot of tight ends and it was a big run game.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And then Florida State picked him up and I'm like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: this is never going to work. And it didn't work.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And I think Florida State, you know, they have that
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: problem where they they grab the wrong players often and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: their scouting department. I feel like let them down. And,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you know, that could be something here as well. So
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that's always going to be an important thing at this
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: level for sure. Look, I don't know. I'm not a
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: talent evaluator. You know, the guys that they brought in
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: were all, according to all the websites, highly, I mean, look,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: we read the athletic article on the very first episode
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of the show. You were the most talented group in
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the group of six. So if every talent, and look,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: those talent evaluators aren't always correct, right? DJ Uyungle, I
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: was just talking about was a five-star. Clearly he wasn't.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And so they do miss for the most part. They're,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: they're pretty good on their, on their scouting and their reports. But,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you know, on paper, it looked like this was a
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: really good team. So I, don't know if the recruiting
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: is an issue. To me, that screams coaching if everyone
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: feels like they got the talent. This coaching staff has
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. How many ways did
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the run D break down? I've never seen a team
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: consistently get to the edge of the D so many times. Yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: we kind of hit that. The D was very disappointing.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: We did not see the defense... Play a game like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that all year. That was, to me, more disappointing than
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the offense. The defense has to be so much better.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: You're right. They broke down at every level. They broke
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: down on Thursday night. They were not good. Let's see.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Paul Coolio, mostly concerned about facing too many third and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: long on offense and trying to run MVB in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: situation and the D and the inability to stop anyone
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: on third and long. I almost rather the D be
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: facing third and inches. from a probability standpoint, based on
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: what I've seen. I don't know if third and short
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was going to help you on Thursday. As far as
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: MVB on the runs on Thursday, I'm with you, dude.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand those. Those are the play calls that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: obviously have you guys upset, and those are the play
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: calls that I mark down in my notes too, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I go, okay, that's one. I didn't love the third
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and four call with Michael Van Buren Jr. either. He's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just not when you have Crowder, like Crowder can run
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: guys over. Michael Van Buren Jr. is a really small guy.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And I understand you run the quarterback. You get an
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: extra blocker, but he's not the guy that I want
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: carrying the ball on third and four. Now, if you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: want to bring in Luke Croman, he's a little bit bigger.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: At some point, they need to bring Luke in and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: throw a pass, though, because you can't have him just
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: come in and then know he's going to run it
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: every time. But, yeah, I didn't like the quarterback run
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: there on the third downs at all. I'm really confused
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: by that. Now, they did do, I think it was
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the very first drive. They went forward on, was it
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the first drive where they went forward on fourth down?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. It's all a blur. But they did
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: go forward third and five where they did run, they
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: didn't get it, and then they went forward on fourth down.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they were trying to do against
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Temple as well. So they aren't afraid to get a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive. Uh, Michael Nolan, why did I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: pay sec money for my new stadium tickets? Michael, you're
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: going to have a good time in that stadium and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you got to pay for that stadium. And look, I
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: think that the new stadium is only going to help
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the recruiting. It's only going to bring in more talent. Uh,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: they're already doing a good job bringing in talent and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I know it's not reflecting right now, but you're going to,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you're going to have a good time. And that's, that's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a first year at any stadium brother. Uh, it just is.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Joe Valencia, why are we not able to play four
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: good quarters? Too many new players, too many players from
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the power four that didn't play much. That's a good point.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You know, you do bring in these powerful guys. How
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: much playing time do they get at their old programs?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: It's a good point. But to me, that one's on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Got to be ready. These guys got
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to be ready to go. And there's an execution issue there, too.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But coaching staff has to get these guys able to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: play four quarters because they haven't really. The defense, for
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the most part, has played pretty solid for four quarters
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: in a few games. Obviously not the UTSA game, but
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: we've seen it from them before. The offense, we have
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: not seen it yet at all. I mean, other than,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I guess, Delaware State, when they put up 28 in
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the first half and I think a 50-burger. I don't
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: remember the final score, but something like that. That was
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a game, but I don't count that game because it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: was an FCS opponent. So why they cannot struggle, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that's been a topic for us the last couple of weeks.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: why can't this team play four solid quarters? And until
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: they do, they're not going to live up to the expectations.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But to answer your question, Joe, I don't really have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: an answer to it, unfortunately. That's the biggest mystery to me.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Hartline and his staff are doing
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to get this team prepared to play four quarters because
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it's not a depth issue. You know, a lot of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: times you just see teams All right, like, we'll go
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: back to Delaware State, right? They kind of hung around
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in the first half. Then you put them away, and
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: you blew them out in the second half. Well, they
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: didn't have the depth that you have, and you just
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: wore them out, and you were able to lean on them,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and it was over. This team has depth, so, you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's not like teams are wearing you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: out by the time the fourth quarter starts, and all
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they're just pounding it on you because
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of your depth. I don't know what's happening there. I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: can't figure that out, but that's, that's the, the most
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: disappointing thing from this coaching staff so far as they've
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: not been able to get this team to play for
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: four straight quarters. I think that's pretty much all the,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's, there's more here. When is Tim Beck
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: going to be fired? Only question that matters. He's not
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: going to get fired in the season guys. Yeah. I,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: We've got to stop with that question because I can't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: give you an answer. I don't know. Ryan wants to know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: where is Kenny Odom? I'm not sure. I don't know
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: if him coming over. I get that question a lot.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: He was great at UTEP. I don't know what he's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: doing at practice, why he's not getting on the field.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I would imagine there's good reason. I don't think the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: coaching staff is just like, hey, Kenny, we don't like you.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I think they like what they got. The problem is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters if he's out there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: To me, I don't think one player is going to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: make a difference, quite honestly. But I don't know why
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: he's not getting an opportunity. But I do get that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: question a lot. Marco is asking, did Harline start influencing
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the play calling more? I noticed he had the call
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: sheet in his hand most of the night, and the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: play calling was so much better for the most part.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. If I missed that question asked at
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the press conference, I'll need to go back and listen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: My guess is Heartline is not taking over the play calling.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's very rare that a coach takes over play calling
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and you don't hear anything about it. I believe the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos are going through that right now where Sean
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Payton is taking over play calling. Guess what? We're all
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: aware that it's happening. Last year, Dan Campbell took over
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: play calling for his OC, John Morton. We all heard
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: about Dan Campbell was now going to be doing the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: play calling. So I'm going to go ahead and tell you,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: even though you don't want to hear this, I think
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Tim Beck called that game, so you kind of just
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: gave Tim Beck a compliment. I think Brian Hartline is
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: obviously involved in the offense. That is his side of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the ball. That is what he knows, so I don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: think him having a play call sheet means he's calling
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the plays. I think that we would know if he was.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Will we get to that point down the road? I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: not sure, because he did call plays at Ohio State,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think he
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was calling plays on Thursday night. I could be completely wrong.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I just feel like when that happens, we always hear
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: about it. We're always aware of it. So that makes
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: me think that he was not calling plays. But that's,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you know, that's just my opinion. I could be totally wrong.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: That's a great question for, I can never make it
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to the press conferences. It's hard because they always happen
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: while I'm getting ready to do my radio show. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: if any USF media is watching the show, you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll give that question to Rock Riley. And shout
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: out to Rock Riley. He was doing the sideline reporting
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: for for the Bulls radio. So. We'll need to get
• 46:56
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• 47:45
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• 47:49
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• 47:51
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• 47:53
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• 47:55
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• 48:00
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• 48:03
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• 48:08
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• 48:13
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• 48:14
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• 48:21
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• 48:24
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• 48:27
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• 48:31
  Speaker 1: They're not entertaining. They're not fun. So shout out to
• 48:34
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• 48:40
  Speaker 1: thing that keeps me sane. exaggerate everything to make it worse,
• 48:44
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• 48:50
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• 49:09
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• 49:15
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• 49:17
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  Speaker 1: a sports radio host, it, uh, You love that. So
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. I really do appreciate your support.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Make sure you send this to at least five Bulls fans.
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  Speaker 1: I ask that every episode. We got to grow this
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: thing together. I can't do it alone. You guys have
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the bigger USF followings than me, right? You've been here
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: for a long time. So I'm just kind of getting
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  Speaker 1: into the program. And I appreciate you guys letting me
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  Speaker 1: in your circle. It's a great circle to be a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: part of. And I know that just based on our sponsors,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Blue Terra. You know, they, they wanted to be part
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of the USF community, the bulls pen.com. They want to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: be part of the community and you guys support, uh,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: one another. So I really appreciate you being supportive of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: fourth and bull, which is presented by blue Tara. So
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for watching. Thank you so
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: much for listening. And, uh, we will have a player
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: interview for you next Wednesday. Uh, we should be good
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to go. I, I, I didn't think we were going
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to get CJ Hicks. I didn't think we were going
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to get a player interview last week. Um, because it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: was a short weekend off of a loss, but they
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: came through. So that was awesome. Uh, so I did
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: talk to CJ. It was kind of funny in the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Cause he, he thought that he, he forgot that we
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: were doing the interview. And so he had left campus
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and he had to come back to camp. I felt
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: bad for him. I'm like, I told those guys, I'm like, don't,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you don't have to make them come back, but shout
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: out to USF because they, they've been awesome. Um, you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: great partner. I don't want to say partners cause they're
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: not technically a partner, but they've, they've helped, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they have, uh, They've supported it by letting me talk
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to the players and getting a look into their lives
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and their viewpoints on this football team. So we'll have
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: another player, I assume, on Wednesday, and then we'll do
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a preview. Maybe I'll get the preview show out even
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: before that. I don't want to promise anything because I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: never deliver, but I'd like to get that actually done
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: earlier in the week. It gives you a chance to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: give it a listen. So appreciate you guys. Hope you
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the show, and go Bulls, and we'll talk to
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: you soon.