Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 3pm hour 06/25/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good afternoon, 3.07 in the afternoon, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. And
- 0:04Speaker 1: Ron Furb on this Thursday, June 25th, 2026. And chilly
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- 0:35Speaker 1: Let me see here. A number of people waiting. Hello.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Hey, Ron.
- 0:40Speaker 1: It's the one and only Dave Thomas, who's got just
- 0:42Speaker 1: a little bit of time, he said to me. Ron,
- 0:44Speaker 1: I got a little bit of time, but I want
- 0:46Speaker 1: to update your listeners on what's going on. And I said,
- 0:48Speaker 1: Dave Thomas, then I got a little bit of time
- 0:50Speaker 1: for you. What is the latest with this crazy governor
- 0:55Speaker 1: of ours, please?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Yes, so the good that happened last night and this
- 1:00Speaker 3: past week, the good is that he signed the budget
- 1:04Speaker 3: kind of update bill that was 479. That delivered $ 350
- 1:10Speaker 3: million to seniors on Homestead and did the sales tax holiday.
- 1:15Speaker 3: He signed that, no vetoes in that bill.
- 1:18Speaker 1: All right, so what's the bad? Okay, I want to
- 1:20Speaker 1: hear that.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Yes, the bad, last night, I'm actually in D.C. right now.
- 1:25Speaker 3: That's why I only have a little bit of time
- 1:27Speaker 3: doing a conference on taxation, how to lower taxes. There
- 1:32Speaker 3: was a text sent to me by a reporter at
- 1:36Speaker 3: about 10.30 last night with, did you see he vetoed
- 1:39Speaker 3: your bill? So he vetoed two bills last night. One
- 1:43Speaker 3: of them was mine on renters and giving consumer protections
- 1:48Speaker 3: for renters and that are in your larger complexes. That
- 1:53Speaker 3: was House Bill 173. He vetoed that bill. Then he
- 1:57Speaker 3: vetoed another bill, and this is the one dealing with
- 2:01Speaker 3: photo ID and verification that we talked about that we
- 2:05Speaker 3: passed two weeks ago, House Bill 472, that requires mail-in
- 2:10Speaker 3: ballots to have photo identification as part of kind of
- 2:15Speaker 3: the checklist. and process when you mail in your absentee ballot.
- 2:20Speaker 3: He vetoed that last night as well.
- 2:22Speaker 1: What's the thinking there?
- 2:25Speaker 3: So his thinking, it was a very almost flippant kind
- 2:29Speaker 3: of veto message. And his thinking was essentially showing photo ID,
- 2:35Speaker 3: making a copy or doing an online database with mail-in
- 2:39Speaker 3: ballots is not necessary because we have a great system
- 2:43Speaker 3: in Ohio and that will just cause more people not
- 2:46Speaker 3: to vote. Um, and, uh, obviously I always tell folks, 80%
- 2:53Speaker 3: of Ohioans believe you should show a photo ID when
- 2:57Speaker 3: you vote. Um, that's just common sense across the board.
- 3:02Speaker 3: There's a loophole though, with that, when you do a
- 3:04Speaker 3: mail-in ballot, no one really knows who's actually on the
- 3:07Speaker 3: other side of that ballot. And so having part of
- 3:11Speaker 3: that process be, you know, you submitting your photo ID
- 3:14Speaker 3: when you send in your ballot is another security point
- 3:18Speaker 3: to make sure you are who you say you are
- 3:21Speaker 3: when you're voting and he vetoed that.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Yeah i think with mail-in ballots they supposedly do a
- 3:29Speaker 1: signature match or signature check and that's about it isn't it.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yeah there's there's censure and then you're supposed to either
- 3:36Speaker 3: give the last four of your social or your driver's
- 3:39Speaker 3: license number but um there you know there still is
- 3:44Speaker 3: a decent amount of opportunity with mail-in balloting for folks
- 3:49Speaker 3: to either take that information or for someone in one
- 3:52Speaker 3: household to actually do all the ballots together. So we
- 3:56Speaker 3: talked about the constitutional amendment that will be on the
- 3:58Speaker 3: ballot this November. That constitutional amendment is still moving forward
- 4:02Speaker 3: because the governor didn't have to sign it. Only the
- 4:05Speaker 3: legislature could put an amendment on the ballot. So folks
- 4:09Speaker 3: will still see a question on the ballot this November asking,
- 4:13Speaker 3: do you wish to require photo verification for voting in Ohio?
- 4:19Speaker 3: And if it's yes, then I would put in the constitution.
- 4:21Speaker 3: And that gives us the ability to essentially make more
- 4:26Speaker 3: kind of rules and requirements around photo verification, such as
- 4:31Speaker 3: mail-in balloting. So people are still for the constitutional amendment,
- 4:34Speaker 3: but as of right now, the governor's veto over the
- 4:39Speaker 3: mail-in ballot aspect means that mail-in balloting would not be
- 4:44Speaker 3: subject to the photo verification.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Right, but just to clarify, and I'm glad you reminded me,
- 4:49Speaker 1: it clarified it in my mind. If in Ohio you
- 4:52Speaker 1: request a mail-in ballot on your application for it, you
- 4:56Speaker 1: have to what, as you said, give the last four
- 4:58Speaker 1: of your Social Security or your driver's license number. And
- 5:05Speaker 1: you have to send that as well. Supposedly, they do
- 5:07Speaker 1: a signature check, and they have that information, which seems
- 5:11Speaker 1: still pretty solid. I mean, it seems like it's a
- 5:14Speaker 1: pretty good effort to prevent any fraud. But like you said,
- 5:17Speaker 1: this would be an additional step just to lock it down,
- 5:21Speaker 1: another good step. I don't understand why he didn't– why
- 5:25Speaker 1: he vetoed that, but there's a lot of stuff he's
- 5:27Speaker 1: doing lately that I just don't understand. So, the legislature
- 5:31Speaker 1: put a constitutional amendment on. When will I be voting
- 5:34Speaker 1: on this? In November?
- 5:36Speaker 2: Yes.
- 5:37Speaker 3: This November, November 3rd, every Ohioan will see. I don't
- 5:41Speaker 3: remember what issue number it'll be because we've changed. Do
- 5:45Speaker 3: you remember that one year where there was several constitutional
- 5:48Speaker 3: issues in the primary and in general? People got confused
- 5:51Speaker 3: over what issue was issue one. Now, every constitutional issue
- 5:56Speaker 3: will be its own number. So we'll never have another
- 5:58Speaker 3: issue one or issue two. I think this will be
- 6:00Speaker 3: issue three.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Which will ask me to vote on whether or not I,
- 6:07Speaker 1: basically it asks me, do I think you should have
- 6:09Speaker 1: to have a photo ID when you vote? Now, here's
- 6:13Speaker 1: my confusion with that. When I go to vote now,
- 6:15Speaker 1: I have to produce a photo ID.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Correct.
- 6:19Speaker 3: And what the concern is, so there's a woman named
- 6:22Speaker 3: Allison Russo. She is the former minority leader in the
- 6:27Speaker 3: Ohio House, and she is running for Secretary of State.
- 6:31Speaker 3: She does not believe in photo ID. She voted no
- 6:35Speaker 3: on this constitutional amendment. Should she win Secretary of State's office,
- 6:41Speaker 3: there is enough flexibility within the Secretary of State's office
- 6:45Speaker 3: for her not to require or enforce that provision. Should
- 6:50Speaker 3: Amy Acton become governor after November, There's enough flexibility with
- 6:55Speaker 3: the administration and the governor's office for some of these
- 6:58Speaker 3: provisions not to be enforced. So we're essentially belt and
- 7:03Speaker 3: suspending Ohio's law with a photo ID for voting that
- 7:08Speaker 3: regardless of who comes in the legislature or secretary of state,
- 7:11Speaker 3: this is the law in Ohio.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so you want to lock it down, basically, which
- 7:19Speaker 1: I would agree with. Because basically you're saying, Ohio, I
- 7:23Speaker 1: think we're kind of respected by other states how we
- 7:26Speaker 1: do our elections here. Why, of course, I can't explain
- 7:31Speaker 1: to liberals why we would ever want to change that.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a pretty decent reputation for not
- 7:36Speaker 1: having a lot of voter fraud because of showing an ID.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And the process that we have, why somebody would want
- 7:43Speaker 1: to be Secretary of State and take that away... is
- 7:46Speaker 1: bizarre to me. It's just bizarre. So I'll make sure
- 7:49Speaker 1: don't vote for the Democrat running for Secretary of State.
- 7:51Speaker 1: That's the first thing people got to remember because your
- 7:54Speaker 1: elections won't be as secure. Because if you get fraud in,
- 7:58Speaker 1: it waters down the value of your vote, your individual votes.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Exactly. But there are at least 10 races every year.
- 8:05Speaker 3: And I think we had one in Mahoning Valley this
- 8:08Speaker 3: past year where the election was either a tie or
- 8:11Speaker 3: it was decided by one vote. So I always tell folks,
- 8:16Speaker 3: Every vote, especially at the local level, matters. And when
- 8:19Speaker 3: we had that constitutional question come up and we voted
- 8:22Speaker 3: on it, every single Democrat in the House and in
- 8:25Speaker 3: the Senate voted against that constitutional amendment. So that clearly
- 8:32Speaker 3: shows a delineation, a line in the sand, between what
- 8:36Speaker 3: the Democrat priority is when it comes to elections. And
- 8:39Speaker 3: Ohio is the gold standard.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:41Speaker 3: And I think this is kind of another way that
- 8:44Speaker 3: we're You know, the SAVE Act is a big deal
- 8:47Speaker 3: happening right now at the federal level. Do they pass it?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Don't they? This is kind of another, I think, push
- 8:52Speaker 3: from the states to say, you know, we're doing this right.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Here's how we're doing it, federal government. You know, here's more.
- 9:00Speaker 3: kind of ammunition for you.
- 9:02Speaker 1: But you have Democrats that are saying, as well-respected as
- 9:06Speaker 1: our standard is, and you're right, it is a gold standard.
- 9:09Speaker 1: I think Florida kind of copied us. But with that
- 9:12Speaker 1: being said, you've got Democrats that want to destroy it,
- 9:14Speaker 1: want to take away the confidence I have as a
- 9:17Speaker 1: voter in Ohio that the system is legit. It's bewildering.
- 9:24Speaker 3: I tell everyone, be a poll worker. Volunteer. You get
- 9:28Speaker 3: paid like $ 125, 000. but volunteer as a poll worker, you
- 9:32Speaker 3: get to literally see the process. And if anyone has
- 9:35Speaker 3: doubts about how secure the election is or you'll be
- 9:39Speaker 3: able to see kind of just like with the mail-in side,
- 9:41Speaker 3: you know, there's some potential here. But actual, you know,
- 9:45Speaker 3: physical voting, the number of just checkpoints and certainty that
- 9:50Speaker 3: we have in Ohio, and we're that way in Florida
- 9:53Speaker 3: is that way because of what happened back in 2000
- 9:55Speaker 3: and 2004. We've been through really bad cycles. and we've
- 10:00Speaker 3: corrected because of it. So this is just another way
- 10:03Speaker 3: to make sure we're going to stay safe.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Excellent. And, uh, so I can't explain to wine folks.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't explain why it does it.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Didn't he, uh, the other day I was reading where he, uh,
- 10:19Speaker 1: what do you say, did away with a guy's death penalty,
- 10:23Speaker 1: who broke into a home, if I remember correctly, and
- 10:25Speaker 1: help me out here, maybe you would know more. He
- 10:28Speaker 1: broke into somebody's home and was doing a robbery, and
- 10:30Speaker 1: he lit him on fire. He killed the people. Does
- 10:33Speaker 1: that sound right to you?
- 10:35Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a handful. We've not actually, and this is
- 10:39Speaker 3: another great example of the legislature has rules, has a
- 10:43Speaker 3: lot of land, because you, the people, have voted for us.
- 10:46Speaker 3: We create the rules. The administration is supposed to carry
- 10:49Speaker 3: it out. And regardless of what you think about the
- 10:52Speaker 3: death penalty, that's the law of the land, and this
- 10:55Speaker 3: administration has not carried out once the law of the
- 10:59Speaker 3: land while the governor's been in office. And that's a
- 11:02Speaker 3: great example of one that, yeah, it's just crazy the
- 11:06Speaker 3: situation that happened. There's a lot of others on death
- 11:08Speaker 3: row as well where he has either now pardoned one
- 11:13Speaker 3: this past week or has just not done the sentence.
- 11:19Speaker 1: I mean, it's, so folks, this is what troubles me
- 11:24Speaker 1: with DeWine. I mean, the jury has spoken. I mean,
- 11:27Speaker 1: the judicial system has said, okay, here's what it is.
- 11:30Speaker 1: And he decides, and we have the death penalty in Ohio,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and he decides, okay, we're not going to do that.
- 11:36Speaker 1: To this particular person who I read this, I'm going
- 11:41Speaker 1: by my memory, and you'll correct me. I mean, he
- 11:43Speaker 1: broke into someone's home. The person that he killed, he
- 11:47Speaker 1: lit him on fire. Is that accurate? Does that sound right?
- 11:50Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds about right. I didn't read the whole
- 11:54Speaker 3: kind of background on it, but yeah, there was a
- 11:57Speaker 3: crazy episode calling them.
- 11:58Speaker 1: It was a horrific murder, a horrific murder. And DeWine,
- 12:05Speaker 1: instead of letting this guy, the jury sentenced him to death,
- 12:08Speaker 1: instead of that happening, he, I don't know what you,
- 12:12Speaker 1: he pardoned him, doesn't pardon him. You don't get out
- 12:15Speaker 1: of jail, but he waives the death penalty.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:19Speaker 3: And I remind folks, this is a taste. If people
- 12:22Speaker 3: think there's not that big of a difference between Vivek
- 12:25Speaker 3: and Amy Acton, everything I've talked with you today already
- 12:28Speaker 3: is just a taste of what we can experience under
- 12:31Speaker 3: Amy Acton. And we haven't even dived in. The governor
- 12:35Speaker 3: has not signed yet the Medicaid reform bill for the
- 12:39Speaker 3: fraud that occurred. We're still waiting on that. But that's
- 12:43Speaker 3: just another kind of aspect of what could we expect
- 12:47Speaker 3: under an Amy Acton governorship.
- 12:51Speaker 1: It would be absolute insanity. Absolute, total and complete insanity. Okay.
- 12:57Speaker 1: And anything else going on? Because I know our time
- 13:00Speaker 1: is limited.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Yep.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Yep.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Wanted to update you on that veto. The other veto
- 13:04Speaker 3: that he made of my submetering bill, which we're going
- 13:07Speaker 3: to still fight for. Renters are being gouged on their
- 13:10Speaker 3: electricity just recently. even worse actually than homeowners. So trying
- 13:13Speaker 3: to make that more of a portable practice.
- 13:17Speaker 1: You said renters are being gouged more on electricity than homeowners.
- 13:20Speaker 1: How's that?
- 13:21Speaker 3: So if you're a renter in a complex, oftentimes the
- 13:26Speaker 3: property is doing something called sub metering, which is when
- 13:30Speaker 3: there's one meter and the landlord or the property manager
- 13:35Speaker 3: then sells that electricity to all the renters, the tenants. And, um,
- 13:40Speaker 3: There's no limits. There's no caps. There's no actual regulation
- 13:44Speaker 3: over that industry right now. It's just done property by property.
- 13:48Speaker 3: And so this bill would actually kind of put caps, limits,
- 13:54Speaker 3: regulations around the industry, around submetering, so that renters wouldn't
- 13:59Speaker 3: be paying more than what they would be paying if
- 14:02Speaker 3: they were just traditional, normal residents. But right now, we've
- 14:07Speaker 3: seen bills... you know, double, triple what they actually should be.
- 14:12Speaker 3: And there's no actual limit to the property owner doing that.
- 14:17Speaker 1: So it's just a landlord screwing a runner, basically.
- 14:22Speaker 3: Yes, in some cases. Or, you know, there's complaints. There's
- 14:25Speaker 3: no actual place to go for these poor renters to
- 14:27Speaker 3: go to do complaints. They have to hire an attorney.
- 14:30Speaker 3: No explanations on the bills. It's a really kind of...
- 14:34Speaker 3: It makes sense as a practice that we should have it,
- 14:36Speaker 3: but there needs to be a lot of guardrails and
- 14:39Speaker 3: kind of certainty around it. All right.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Stand by. Let me run a few commercials, and I'll
- 14:44Speaker 1: wrap it up with you, okay? Because I know then
- 14:46Speaker 1: you've got to go. Hang on. Back with Dave Thomas
- 14:48Speaker 1: in a minute. Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN.
- 14:53Speaker 1: We're on for back to it. It's 325 in the afternoon.
- 14:58Speaker 1: All right. I know we've got only minutes, a few
- 15:00Speaker 1: minutes with you, so go ahead. Take it away, Dave.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Yeah, you're good.
- 15:03Speaker 3: So that bill, we're going to keep pushing and get
- 15:05Speaker 3: renters some help. And then the last thing you probably
- 15:08Speaker 3: have heard, Big case out of Supreme Court ruled that
- 15:12Speaker 3: Trump can, in fact, actually deport and remove all the
- 15:15Speaker 3: Haitians that are in Ohio, for example, on a temporary
- 15:18Speaker 3: protected status. That was a big decision that came out
- 15:22Speaker 3: just yesterday, and probably you remember a lot of things
- 15:25Speaker 3: happening with that two years ago over the Dayton area, Springfield. So,
- 15:30Speaker 3: Supreme Court backed up Trump administration, and they can start
- 15:33Speaker 3: doing deportations if there's issues with those folks on the TPS.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Anything happening as far as the fraud investigation of the folks,
- 15:45Speaker 1: the Somalians, stealing money as far as Medicare, Medicaid, and
- 15:50Speaker 1: all that jazz?
- 15:52Speaker 2: Yes.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a few arrests or a few cases
- 15:56Speaker 3: kind of released almost every week. Different kind of examples
- 16:01Speaker 3: of how they're doing the fraud, largely in either Cincinnati
- 16:04Speaker 3: area or then in Franklin area. a couple of people
- 16:06Speaker 3: in the Cleveland area, too. My understanding is FBI, all
- 16:11Speaker 3: the federal folks are in there. They're diving into some
- 16:14Speaker 3: of the back numbers, and they're going to keep kind
- 16:17Speaker 3: of releasing these different arrests. And some of the money
- 16:20Speaker 3: has been returned, not nearly anything close to what's been lost.
- 16:26Speaker 1: So the cops are actually getting involved, what the feds,
- 16:31Speaker 1: I guess you would say, and arresting people and charging
- 16:34Speaker 1: them for committing this crime? I mean, even though there's
- 16:38Speaker 1: Somalians and all this?
- 16:41Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
- 16:42Speaker 3: A good example of one was kind of a somewhat
- 16:45Speaker 3: fake doctor who was just using socials and using Medicaid
- 16:49Speaker 3: numbers of people in that community, charging and reporting things,
- 16:54Speaker 3: you know, being sold or treatments being done. None of
- 16:57Speaker 3: that happened. A couple million dollars over the past couple
- 17:01Speaker 3: of years. So that person's been arrested.
- 17:03Speaker 1: They arrested that doctor for the fraud.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Yep.
- 17:07Speaker 3: The question, though, is, yeah, let's say it's two, two
- 17:09Speaker 3: and a half million, if I remember correctly. How do
- 17:11Speaker 3: you get some of that money back? This person's obviously
- 17:14Speaker 3: going to jail.
- 17:14Speaker 1: The answer is you usually don't. I mean, and if
- 17:18Speaker 1: that's the case, that's fine. I'm just saying that people
- 17:20Speaker 1: that committed a crime, and this is a crime, should
- 17:23Speaker 1: go to jail. That's all I'm saying.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Deter the activity. And step one. Step one for sure.
- 17:32Speaker 1: All right. So what are you doing in Washington, D.C.
- 17:35Speaker 3: I'm here for today and tomorrow for a tax conference.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Different kind of ways and means or tax leaders from
- 17:41Speaker 3: across the nation, different states. We're all kind of gathering
- 17:44Speaker 3: to talk about, hey, how do you do taxation on
- 17:47Speaker 3: certain things with this? What are you seeing with this?
- 17:51Speaker 3: And just start it today.
- 17:53Speaker 1: All right. Well, tell them we got enough taxes. We
- 17:55Speaker 1: don't need any new ways. The answer is to reduce them.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave Thomas, for making time. Appreciate it.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 18:01Speaker 1: All right.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Have a good day.
- 18:02Speaker 1: State Rep. Dave Thomas, NewsRadio 570. WKVN with an update.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Back with your calls. Thanks for being patient on hold.
- 18:08Speaker 1: We'll come back to you after the call. NewsRadio 570. WKVN.
- 18:12Speaker 1: All right. Thank you, Dave Thomas, for updating us. 3.35
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- 18:34Speaker 1: the air.
- 18:36Speaker 6: Ronald.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Ted the Conservative.
- 18:39Speaker 2: We got disconnected yesterday, so I thought I would call back. But, boy,
- 18:42Speaker 2: a lot's on path here with your previous caller. Good
- 18:46Speaker 2: example of what Amy Atkin will do. If you think
- 18:50Speaker 2: that the rhino in office right now is bad, just
- 18:54Speaker 2: think what she will do. And, you know, Rick called
- 18:57Speaker 2: yesterday about the visa program that his kids are stuck on,
- 19:02Speaker 2: and I don't understand it because think about it this way.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Democrats are globalists. Republicans... and for america first i think
- 19:11Speaker 2: that's a state simple statement to make so if he's
- 19:14Speaker 2: a little concerned if they're a little concerned about what
- 19:17Speaker 2: the vape might do by allowing some of these visas
- 19:20Speaker 2: to be processed imagine what amy acton will do don't
- 19:24Speaker 2: forget what what the democrats did to the southern border
- 19:27Speaker 2: um and what the governor the rhino in chief has
- 19:31Speaker 2: done with immigration in the state of ohio so you
- 19:35Speaker 2: know i mean you It seems like it's really common sense,
- 19:39Speaker 2: but I guess some people just don't see it that way.
- 19:42Speaker 2: I don't understand that one. And then the taxes he
- 19:45Speaker 2: talked about, you know, Trumbull County, they did the right thing.
- 19:49Speaker 2: And in Mahoning County, we've got, we've got a big
- 19:52Speaker 2: race coming up.
- 19:53Speaker 1: You know, one candidate, Trumbull County, I don't know, did
- 19:56Speaker 1: Trumbull County approve it? I didn't see that, sir, or not,
- 19:59Speaker 1: but I mean.
- 20:00Speaker 2: I think I saw that, you know, and here we
- 20:03Speaker 2: are in Mahoning County. we got the opportunity to put
- 20:06Speaker 2: someone in office all over that will vote to do that.
- 20:09Speaker 2: The other person will think that the unions that work
- 20:13Speaker 2: for the government and the governmental agencies know better how
- 20:15Speaker 2: to spend your money.
- 20:16Speaker 6: Right.
- 20:17Speaker 2: So that's going to be, that's going to be, you know,
- 20:19Speaker 2: really interesting. I've told you, I think that's, that's the
- 20:21Speaker 2: biggest election for us in the fall is that commission
- 20:24Speaker 2: is raised. Um, also I think he, you know, you
- 20:28Speaker 2: guys touched on immigration and, the TPS, the big wins
- 20:32Speaker 2: that Trump had in the Supreme Court today. Again, Amy Atkin, Democrats,
- 20:39Speaker 2: they oppose that stuff. So if you, you know, again,
- 20:42Speaker 2: back to the visas, if you think what Vivek is
- 20:45Speaker 2: proposing is bad, what do you think Amy Atkin and the.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Democrats would do? Oh, it would be god-awful.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm sure there's just so much
- 20:57Speaker 2: to talk about. Where we left off with the elections,
- 21:00Speaker 2: I'll touch on that real quickly. I told you in
- 21:04Speaker 2: the dead middle of the Iran war..
- 21:07Speaker 1: Well, hang on. Before we go there, a large part
- 21:10Speaker 1: about what we were talking about yesterday, though, had to
- 21:12Speaker 1: do with the difference... We were talking about the socialists
- 21:17Speaker 1: that were winning in New York. I guess it shouldn't
- 21:19Speaker 1: be a surprise to anybody because of the makeup of
- 21:23Speaker 1: New York. But the overall discussion was... trying to understand
- 21:30Speaker 1: a lot of the, I don't want to say anger,
- 21:33Speaker 1: but I'm going to use the word anger that younger
- 21:35Speaker 1: people have over the plight that they're facing and maybe
- 21:41Speaker 1: some of the anger they have against baby boomers with
- 21:44Speaker 1: the economics of things. And maybe what we were looking
- 21:48Speaker 1: for yesterday was to try to say, this is why
- 21:52Speaker 1: so many young people are voting for perhaps these Democrat
- 21:56Speaker 1: socialists Because they're so pissed at, I don't want to
- 22:03Speaker 1: say capitalism.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Well, I think they're voting for him. And I think,
- 22:06Speaker 2: no disrespect to any of your callers, but some of
- 22:09Speaker 2: them have hinted at this. They want a handout, not
- 22:11Speaker 2: a hand up. And, you know, all of us grew
- 22:18Speaker 2: up at a different time. Our parents, our grandparents grew
- 22:20Speaker 2: up in the Depression. Our parents grew up out of that.
- 22:25Speaker 2: We grew up in a time we grew up in.
- 22:28Speaker 2: But to use a sports analogy, we all played the
- 22:31Speaker 2: rules of the game we were dealt with, right? Today,
- 22:34Speaker 2: the world's a different world than it was when you
- 22:36Speaker 2: and I grew up. The employment arena is a lot different.
- 22:40Speaker 2: If you work in technology... You've got a great opportunity.
- 22:44Speaker 2: If you work in the medical field, if you work
- 22:47Speaker 2: in the trade, if you become a school teacher. Right.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Listen, I'm the first one, and I always say, young
- 22:53Speaker 1: people have a lot of opportunities that are easier than
- 22:57Speaker 1: when I was a young person. Yeah, definitely. I mean,
- 23:00Speaker 1: the post office is begging for people. If you want
- 23:02Speaker 1: to get in a post office, it was very difficult.
- 23:05Speaker 1: You want to get on fire department's difficult. You want
- 23:07Speaker 1: to get on police department's difficult. You wanted to get
- 23:08Speaker 1: into trades. It was difficult. You want to get into
- 23:11Speaker 1: general motors. It was difficult. It was difficult getting in
- 23:14Speaker 1: a lot of, a lot of the careers that are
- 23:16Speaker 1: basically begging for people today. So there's, there's the upside
- 23:20Speaker 1: for young people on, on some of these jobs, but
- 23:23Speaker 1: there's also the people that are saying, okay, they're of
- 23:26Speaker 1: concern when, when you have in Vivek's case, in support
- 23:34Speaker 1: of these HB1 visas, saying, oh, we're going to let
- 23:37Speaker 1: all these smart people from India come over here. And
- 23:41Speaker 1: now the people that are the engineers are in that category.
- 23:47Speaker 1: that went to school that said, okay, we did everything right,
- 23:50Speaker 1: now they're concerned about losing their jobs to cheaper labor.
- 23:53Speaker 1: You follow me? In other words, let me put it
- 23:55Speaker 1: this way. People usually aren't concerned about something until it
- 23:58Speaker 1: directly affects them. So a lot of times you get
- 24:01Speaker 1: people at the top, they're kind of arrogant, and they
- 24:03Speaker 1: didn't care if it affected the guy swinging a hammer.
- 24:06Speaker 1: You follow me or the guy in the assembly line
- 24:09Speaker 1: or the person that they would bring in cheaper labor
- 24:11Speaker 1: to replace. It didn't bother them. But when it starts
- 24:15Speaker 1: to affect your job, then it's all different. Then you
- 24:18Speaker 1: start to look at stuff different. I think what Rich
- 24:21Speaker 1: was trying to say, these guys were saying is something's
- 24:23Speaker 1: wrong here when these companies are getting rid of American
- 24:27Speaker 1: workers and their salaries and replacing them with these HB1
- 24:31Speaker 1: visa workers out of India to take their jobs either
- 24:35Speaker 1: here in our country or or ship the work over
- 24:38Speaker 1: to India. And I mean, there's a legitimate, I mean,
- 24:42Speaker 1: I definitely.
- 24:43Speaker 2: I definitely agree. It's a legitimate bitch.
- 24:46Speaker 1: I mean, it's a legitimate bitch. I'm just going to,
- 24:48Speaker 1: it is.
- 24:48Speaker 2: And I would, and I would counter it with this again,
- 24:52Speaker 2: Amy Ashton, globalist rights.
- 24:55Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Also, I would, I would, I would counter it with this.
- 25:00Speaker 2: You are, you control your destiny. In other words, If
- 25:05Speaker 2: you're working for a company that wants to bring in
- 25:08Speaker 2: lower salaried employees to benefit their bottom dollar, well, maybe
- 25:17Speaker 2: that's not a company you want to work with. Market
- 25:19Speaker 2: your skills, market your talents, and go work for a
- 25:22Speaker 2: company that will represent you and reward you. You know,
- 25:26Speaker 2: there's good and bad in everything. It was Alex yesterday
- 25:29Speaker 2: who said he can't believe how much money he makes today.
- 25:32Speaker 2: He said he never dreamed he'd make.
- 25:33Speaker 1: This much money.
- 25:35Speaker 2: He's crying about the cost of living.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Correct.
- 25:37Speaker 2: He can't have it both ways.
- 25:39Speaker 1: We live in a tough love.
- 25:42Speaker 2: It's the world we live in.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Listen, I'm all about the tough love stuff, but I
- 25:47Speaker 1: understand the complaints that are taking place. I do, too.
- 25:54Speaker 1: I'm going to say, listen. I think it's more difficult
- 25:57Speaker 1: for young people to achieve the American dream today than
- 25:59Speaker 1: it was when I was a young person. Make no
- 26:02Speaker 1: mistake about it. I'm not saying that it was easy
- 26:04Speaker 1: when I was young. I mean, you still had to
- 26:06Speaker 1: save money for a down payment on a house, and
- 26:09Speaker 1: you still worried when you signed that 30-year mortgage and
- 26:12Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So it wasn't a stress-free,
- 26:17Speaker 1: easy adventure even then. But if young people are saying
- 26:21Speaker 1: it's become more difficult today because of the high inflation,
- 26:27Speaker 1: the overinflated price of homes and the wages, even the
- 26:34Speaker 1: good wages that haven't kept pace with inflation. I was
- 26:38Speaker 1: just looking the other day when we build our house.
- 26:40Speaker 1: I think our lot was like twenty five thousand dollars
- 26:43Speaker 1: for the lot. You follow me? Three quarters of an acre. Today,
- 26:47Speaker 1: they're asking $ 90, 000 for just the lot. You hear me? $ 90, 000.
- 26:54Speaker 1: And that's before you break ground or do any building. So,
- 27:00Speaker 1: I mean, what I'm trying to say and I'm babbling
- 27:03Speaker 1: on here is, as an older person, I understand younger
- 27:06Speaker 1: people because I can say the same thing. I'm looking
- 27:08Speaker 1: around and everything is so damn expensive. Everything. Cars, cars. trucks, SUVs,
- 27:16Speaker 1: everything is so damn expensive for all our citizens. And
- 27:22Speaker 1: it makes the lifestyle that they see that the baby
- 27:25Speaker 1: boomers enjoyed more difficult for younger people to ever achieve it,
- 27:30Speaker 1: to be able to buy a home, to have a car,
- 27:32Speaker 1: have a decent lifestyle, the American dream. It's more difficult
- 27:36Speaker 1: than it used to be. Would you agree with that?
- 27:38Speaker 1: And that's why I think many of them are pissed
- 27:41Speaker 1: whether they're engineers or doing anything else.
- 27:46Speaker 2: I definitely agree.
- 27:47Speaker 1: But to be honest, they feel they've been betrayed by
- 27:50Speaker 1: the country and by corporations, by corporations that there's, there's
- 27:56Speaker 1: has to be a commitment from corporations to the country
- 28:00Speaker 1: and to the citizens as well.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Well, I said this to you before, we didn't get
- 28:05Speaker 2: where we are today because of what happened yesterday.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Okay.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Okay. When Barack Obama told you he was going to
- 28:12Speaker 2: transform America, he succeeded. You know, when you allow 10
- 28:19Speaker 2: million people in your country to cross the border, and
- 28:22Speaker 2: we don't know who in the heck is here, what
- 28:24Speaker 2: do you think that does to the price of housing?
- 28:27Speaker 2: What do you think that does to the job market?
- 28:30Speaker 2: It's not like, well, I'm going to vote for this
- 28:32Speaker 2: candidate today because They said, no, dummy, the dumb mistakes
- 28:37Speaker 2: you've made in the past voting for people are why
- 28:39Speaker 2: you are where you are today. So if you continue
- 28:42Speaker 2: down that road for voting for the candidate who tells
- 28:45Speaker 2: you what you want to hear and makes you feel good,
- 28:48Speaker 2: guess where you're going to be in 10 years. This
- 28:51Speaker 2: is where the common sense comes in, and you've got
- 28:54Speaker 2: to sometimes kick people in the ass and wake them up. Yeah,
- 28:59Speaker 2: it's easy to bitch about all this stuff, but how
- 29:01Speaker 2: did we get here? And if you don't know how
- 29:04Speaker 2: you got where you are, you're doomed to continue to
- 29:07Speaker 2: make the same mistakes. You know, it's just like Democrats with,
- 29:11Speaker 2: you know, with Trump. Every day it's another issue. I
- 29:14Speaker 2: can't watch TV anymore. You know, now it's gone from
- 29:19Speaker 2: immigration to ICE to the war, the reflecting pool. Now, today,
- 29:25Speaker 2: you know, a couple days ago, the market was down 2%
- 29:27Speaker 2: and our so-called professional expert said the market was crashing.
- 29:31Speaker 2: And I saw this morning... The Dow was on pace
- 29:34Speaker 2: for a record close. So you got a lot of,
- 29:37Speaker 2: you know, uninformed people saying things. and just confusing the
- 29:42Speaker 2: hell out of the world, out of people who don't
- 29:44Speaker 2: know better or don't take the time. You know, just
- 29:47Speaker 2: like today, they hear inflation rose. Well, we were at war.
- 29:51Speaker 2: What did you think we were going to have? You know,
- 29:53Speaker 2: but then I would pull them back. So look what
- 29:55Speaker 2: we did in quarter one this year. The economy grew
- 29:58Speaker 2: to 2.1%. Hey, doing much better than the so-called experts
- 30:04Speaker 2: tell us it's going to do. The same people that
- 30:07Speaker 2: told us gas is going to be $ 200 a barrel.
- 30:10Speaker 2: The same people that told us inflation was going to
- 30:12Speaker 2: get to 6%. You know, sometimes you have to look
- 30:15Speaker 2: at the motives of the people saying that.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Listen, if you're going to try to sell people that
- 30:23Speaker 1: the economy's in a good place right now, I don't
- 30:25Speaker 1: buy it. I simply, I don't buy it. I mean,
- 30:31Speaker 1: the same statistics that are, I didn't believe a lot
- 30:34Speaker 1: of statistics during Biden, the employment statistics, which were always
- 30:37Speaker 1: changed and altered, and the inflation numbers, which were always
- 30:41Speaker 1: kind of not the true report of inflation. Listen, I
- 30:45Speaker 1: don't care who's president. Inflation's too damn high. The war's
- 30:49Speaker 1: added to inflation. We still are, if this all works out,
- 30:54Speaker 1: you still have major problems that are taking place in
- 30:57Speaker 1: getting some raw materials, and there's still major issues in
- 31:00Speaker 1: the oil industry. We shall see as time goes on.
- 31:04Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to sit here and justify,
- 31:08Speaker 1: because Trump does it, it's okay. I agree with your
- 31:11Speaker 1: basic premise. I agree with your premise. I would never
- 31:14Speaker 1: vote for Amy Acton. I will vote for Vivek. And
- 31:18Speaker 1: sometimes it's the lesser of two evils. And so I
- 31:21Speaker 1: would vote for him over Amy Acton.
- 31:23Speaker 2: I thought God wasn't a big fan of a great guy,
- 31:25Speaker 2: but I told you Trussell was the guy who could
- 31:27Speaker 2: have walked away with it.
- 31:28Speaker 1: But it would be worse if she's elected. But I
- 31:32Speaker 1: also can sit here and say the gap is getting
- 31:35Speaker 1: too wide between the haves and the have-nots and the
- 31:38Speaker 1: working people. I totally understand that. with what people are
- 31:42Speaker 1: saying that do all the right things and are saying,
- 31:46Speaker 1: you want to bring somebody in to take their job
- 31:48Speaker 1: and pay them a lot less? Is that the direction
- 31:50Speaker 1: you want the country to go? And as I said yesterday,
- 31:54Speaker 1: that's what created unions and why unions came about. And
- 32:00Speaker 1: people need to remember that. That's all I can say.
- 32:03Speaker 1: That's all I got.
- 32:04Speaker 2: I agree with you. I completely agree with you. All right. But,
- 32:09Speaker 2: It is what it is. You know, we are where
- 32:11Speaker 2: we are. We didn't get here by what we did yesterday.
- 32:14Speaker 2: And I don't think people realize the ramifications of elections.
- 32:18Speaker 2: And it'll go back to why I called you yesterday,
- 32:20Speaker 2: what I wanted to tell you. A month and a
- 32:22Speaker 2: half ago, I told you that the Republicans will maintain
- 32:25Speaker 2: the majority of Congress after the midterms. And people think
- 32:30Speaker 2: I'm nuts when I say that. Well, look what's happening
- 32:32Speaker 2: in the Democrat party. There is such a divide within
- 32:36Speaker 2: that party. as we see the socialists taking over and
- 32:43Speaker 2: removing what you and I wouldn't even call moderates. We'd
- 32:47Speaker 2: call them progressives. And when it comes to national elections,
- 32:52Speaker 2: America has spoken time and time again as a whole.
- 32:56Speaker 2: They don't want to live in a socialist country. So
- 32:59Speaker 2: I think the Democrats... I mean, I'm just sitting back
- 33:01Speaker 2: and I'm enjoying watching the Democrat Party implode from within.
- 33:06Speaker 2: And Trump won't be on the ballot any longer. You know, midterms,
- 33:10Speaker 2: you could say there's a Trump factor. His name's not
- 33:13Speaker 2: on the ballot. And what are they going to do
- 33:15Speaker 2: in two years from now when they can't run against Trump?
- 33:20Speaker 2: They could still hint his name and throw it out there,
- 33:22Speaker 2: but guess what? Half of America's okay with it. We'd
- 33:26Speaker 2: rather have him than Kamala Harris. So, you know, I
- 33:30Speaker 2: always look at the glass half-full, not half-empty. I agree
- 33:33Speaker 2: with everything you said. I don't disagree with you. But
- 33:36Speaker 2: they're not simple solutions. You've got to look at the
- 33:38Speaker 2: big picture, why we got here, the opportunities that are
- 33:41Speaker 2: present today for kids that you and I didn't have. Yes, well,
- 33:44Speaker 2: housing is expensive and the cost of living is expensive.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Kids are making a heck of a lot more money today.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Right, but there's positives and there's negatives. It's not all bad. Right,
- 33:56Speaker 1: but I'll be the first to say... We've got a
- 33:58Speaker 1: serious issue going on with inflation.
- 34:01Speaker 2: It's like it's getting too expensive for everyone. Correct.
- 34:04Speaker 1: For everything.
- 34:05Speaker 2: For everyone. For everything and everyone. Doesn't matter your age.
- 34:09Speaker 2: The grocery store register doesn't discriminate based on age. It
- 34:13Speaker 2: charges you and I the same thing.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you, Ted. Appreciate it. Ted the Conservative. Back
- 34:19Speaker 1: with more calls on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. After these messages.
- 34:24Speaker 2: 352.
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- 34:29Speaker 1: to pause here in a bit for our headlines at
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- 36:03Speaker 5: Hey, Ron.
- 36:05Speaker 2: How you doing?
- 36:05Speaker 7: Good, sir.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Thank you for calling.
- 36:08Speaker 5: Thank you. Hey, I stopped at the fireplace about a
- 36:12Speaker 5: week or two ago and had dinner.
- 36:14Speaker 2: It was excellent.
- 36:15Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that.
- 36:16Speaker 2: It is.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Tommy and Karen are wonderful human beings.
- 36:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I went there. I was trying to go someplace different,
- 36:23Speaker 5: and then you kind of... Bring them up every once.
- 36:26Speaker 2: In a while.
- 36:27Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, let's go there. And, man, it
- 36:28Speaker 5: was good. It was very good and very reasonably priced, too.
- 36:31Speaker 5: The price was great.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good people. Locally owned and operated. Very good people.
- 36:36Speaker 5: But I wanted to share an experience I had last night.
- 36:42Speaker 1: You're not going to be talking about sexual relations, are you? Okay,
- 36:46Speaker 1: let me do my headlines and come back to you,
- 36:48Speaker 1: all right? Let me get the news out of the way.
- 36:50Speaker 1: I want to hear what experience he had last night.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Could be intriguing. Back right after this. Call or stay.
- 36:59Speaker 4: From ABC News, I'm Chuck Sievertson.
- 37:03Speaker 1: The U.S.
- 37:03Speaker 4: Official confirms that Iran attacked a ship in the Strait
- 37:06Speaker 4: of Hormuz with a drone today, the first attack since
- 37:09Speaker 4: Iran and the U.S. signed that initial agreement. ABC's Louis
- 37:12Speaker 4: Martinez covers the Pentagon.
- 37:13Speaker 8: Very tenuous situation because over the 60 days that the
- 37:17Speaker 8: United States and Iran are supposed to be negotiating further
- 37:20Speaker 8: movement towards an eventual full agreement, there's a lot of
- 37:23Speaker 8: instability about what could actually happen.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Seven arrests and 18 police reports are cited by the
- 37:28Speaker 4: National Park Service, and what it alleges was vandalism that
- 37:32Speaker 4: led to damage to the algae-filled and sealer-flaking of the
- 37:35Speaker 4: reflecting pond at the Lincoln Memorial. also alleging graffiti at
- 37:39Speaker 4: the Washington Monument and fuel lines cut at the Great
- 37:41Speaker 4: American State Fair. A federal judge has blocked part of
- 37:44Speaker 4: a President Trump executive order that would mandate how states
- 37:47Speaker 4: would run their mail-in voting operations.
- 37:50Speaker 1: ABC's Peter Harlambous.
- 37:51Speaker 6: This is the third judge in just one week to
- 37:54Speaker 6: block elements of President Trump's attempt to increase federal oversight
- 37:58Speaker 6: over elections. And at this point, both of his executive
- 38:01Speaker 6: orders on elections have been blocked by the courts.
- 38:04Speaker 4: Supreme Court says the maker of Roundup weed killer can't
- 38:06Speaker 4: be sued under state law for failing to warn users
- 38:09Speaker 4: about the product's alleged cancer risk because the EPA didn't
- 38:13Speaker 4: require a warning. Supreme Court conservative majorities today rule that
- 38:17Speaker 4: the government can keep asylum seekers from entering the U.S.
- 38:20Speaker 4: and can cancel the temporary protected status granted to Haitians
- 38:24Speaker 4: and Syrians. After deadly earthquakes overnight in Venezuela, at least
- 38:28Speaker 4: 188 people are dead, nearly 1,000 others injured. The airport's damage,
- 38:33Speaker 4: says ABC's Marcus Moore.
- 38:34Speaker 7: We understand that one of the runways was cracked, so
- 38:37Speaker 7: that will undoubtedly affect the emergency response that is really
- 38:40Speaker 7: just now getting underway today. The power is out in
- 38:43Speaker 7: parts of the country and people being evacuated from businesses
- 38:46Speaker 7: and buildings. And so these are, without a doubt, the
- 38:49Speaker 7: most critical hours in the race to save people who
- 38:52Speaker 7: may be trapped in the rubble. R.
- 38:53Speaker 4: Marcus Moore, and you're listening to ABC News.