The And of It All | Grief, Recovery, and Refusing to Stop

For The Hayters: The Stories We Survive · Jul 19, 2026 · 54m

TW: This episode discusses opiate addiction, stillbirth, miscarriage, and infant loss.

Katie loved her husband through seven years of active addiction, then lost her daughter Ayla at 40 weeks, on her due date. In this conversation, she walks through recovery, repeated loss, the wedding they planned in the middle of grief, and the three boys who came after, including her youngest son's albinism diagnosis.

Interview, narration, and editing by Becky Hayter, with post-production, scripting, and sound design by Emily Nadal.

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