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- 0:00Music.
- 0:08Welcome back, everybody. Today, we're doing a deep dive into the financials of MDR Limited.
- 0:12We've got their 2H 2024 and full year 2024 reports.
- 0:17We're going to see if we can figure out what these numbers really tell us about
- 0:20the future of this company. Definitely going to be an interesting one, yeah.
- 0:23MDR Limited, they're publicly traded on the Singapore Exchange,
- 0:26and it looks like they do a bunch of different things.
- 0:29Investment holdings, aftermarket services for electronics, so like repairs and
- 0:33parts, They've got distribution, digital printing, even a full-blown investment segment.
- 0:38Yeah, not your typical company, that's for sure. So the big news is MDR swung
- 0:42back to profitability in 2024 after a loss in 2023.
- 0:46We're talking a profit of $5.476 million Singapore dollars versus a $42.476
- 0:53million Singapore dollar loss just the year before. Pretty big turnaround.
- 0:57But before we get ahead of ourselves, maybe we should look at all the pieces of the puzzle.
- 1:01For sure. Looking at their revenue for the full year 2024, it was $232.027 million
- 1:09Singapore dollars, so up about 8% from 2023.
- 1:14Gross profit also jumped by a pretty good amount, 26% to $40.951 million.
- 1:20You know, on the surface, these seem like good signs, but the reports also mention
- 1:24non-cash adjustments that impacted their bottom line. It's not as simple as it looks.
- 1:29Non-cash adjustments. What does that even mean? Like for regular people who
- 1:32don't spend all day thinking about finance.
- 1:35Imagine, let's say you've got a really cool vintage car and all of a sudden
- 1:39the market for that car kind of tanks.
- 1:40Now, you haven't really lost any money. You still have the car.
- 1:43But on paper, yeah, your assets are worth less.
- 1:45And impairments and fair value movements, that's kind of what they are.
- 1:48They reflect changes in how much assets or liabilities are thought to be worth.
- 1:52And that can make profits look different, even if no money actually changed
- 1:56hands. So these profits, maybe they look good at first glance,
- 2:00but we really need to figure out how much of that is because of these adjustments
- 2:02and how much is from them just doing business better.
- 2:05Right. It's like you find out your favorite band's new album is all just remixes of their old songs.
- 2:10It might still be good, but it's not exactly, you know, brand new music.
- 2:14Exactly. To really understand what's going on with MDR, we got to dig deeper
- 2:18into each part of their business.
- 2:19We need to see what's actually making these numbers move.
- 2:22Yeah, definitely. Okay, well, let's start with distribution management solutions. So.
- 2:26DMS. Revenue went up for the full year, but down in the second half of 2024.
- 2:31A bit confusing. Yeah, a mixed bag. And the report says that the reason for
- 2:36the downturn in the second half of the year is partly because walk-in sales
- 2:39at their retail stores were down.
- 2:41But at the same time, more people signed up for their mobile plans,
- 2:46the ZYM mobile SIM plans.
- 2:48That's their mobile virtual network operator service.
- 2:52So maybe they're kind of shifting away from those physical stores and trying
- 2:54to do more with these mobile plans. Yeah, could be.
- 2:57And even with the revenue going up and down like that, their gross margin for
- 3:00DMS stayed pretty much the same. So at least they're staying profitable there. That's something.
- 3:05OK, what about their aftermarket services, AMS?
- 3:09Revenue was down in both the second half and the full year of 2024,
- 3:12but their gross margin actually went up.
- 3:16What's that about? It does seem kind of strange, but when you look at the numbers,
- 3:20it actually makes sense.
- 3:21The lower revenue is mostly from fewer repairs and less money coming in from spare parts.
- 3:27Maybe people are just holding onto their devices longer or deciding to buy new
- 3:30ones instead of fixing them. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 3:32Everybody wants the newest phone or whatever. Exactly.
- 3:35But here's the interesting part. The gross margin going up, even though revenue
- 3:39is down, tells us they're probably making different kinds of repairs now.
- 3:42More complex repairs that make more money. So less work overall,
- 3:46but they make more money on each job. All right.
- 3:49Let's look at their investment segment. This one is interesting.
- 3:52They saw strong revenue growth in both the second half and full year of 2024. Yep.
- 3:58The report says that this growth is mainly because of increased interest income
- 4:02from debt securities and dividend income from equity securities.
- 4:06It looks like they're putting a lot of effort into their investment activities.
- 4:10And in their key highlights document, they really go into a lot of detail about
- 4:13their investment activities.
- 4:15It's like they're saying, hey, this is something important. Check this out. For sure.
- 4:18And that's a good point to move on and break down their investment strategy.
- 4:22What does it tell us about their risk tolerance and what they think is going
- 4:27to happen in the future? So let's look closer at these investments.
- 4:30This key highlights document you gave me actually breaks down their whole investment portfolio.
- 4:37It'll just give us like a summary. They really tell us what they're investing
- 4:41in, where it's traded, even the size of the companies.
- 4:44It's pretty interesting. Yeah, it is. They're very transparent about it.
- 4:48And what's cool is that most of their equity investments are in these three
- 4:51main areas, real estate, financials and infrastructure.
- 4:55Plus, they're big on those debt securities, especially real estate bonds.
- 4:59They seem to really like those large cap companies, you know,
- 5:02the ones that are worth over a billion dollars.
- 5:04So they're not exactly going after those super risky startups or betting on the next big mean stock.
- 5:09Sounds kind of conservative, right? Yeah, I'd agree. Focusing on those well-established
- 5:13companies in those sectors makes me think they want stability and consistent returns.
- 5:18And that makes sense considering they lost money last year. They're going for
- 5:22that predictability, you know, making sure that investment income is steady.
- 5:26And geographically, where are most of these investments traded?
- 5:30Are they sticking to Singapore?
- 5:32Actually, no. While they do have some stuff on the Singapore exchange,
- 5:35a big chunk of their portfolio is actually traded on the Hong Kong exchange.
- 5:39So it looks like they're not just looking at their own backyard.
- 5:43They're OK with taking some risks and investing somewhere else.
- 5:46So they're not just diversifying the types of investments they have.
- 5:49They're diversifying where those investments are, too.
- 5:52Smart move if one market goes down. Yeah, exactly. Shows they're being smart
- 5:56about it, not putting all their eggs in one basket.
- 5:58And get this, they've even got their investments in different currencies.
- 6:02Hong Kong dollars, Singapore dollars, U.S. dollars. They've even got a little
- 6:05bit in Swiss francs and British pounds.
- 6:08Wow. So they're diversified across sectors, different places, and even currencies.
- 6:12Right. So what does all this tell us about how much risk they're willing to
- 6:16take and maybe what they're thinking about the future? Well,
- 6:20sticking with those big companies and well-established sectors like real estate
- 6:23and financials, it seems like they have a moderate risk appetite.
- 6:27They want to invest, but they're not gambling everything.
- 6:30Sounds like that 2023 loss taught them a lesson. It seems that way.
- 6:34And, you know, their key highlights document said they have a cautious outlook for 2025.
- 6:40So they're not ignoring the fact that there could be some challenges ahead,
- 6:43things like geopolitical tensions, trade disputes, and who knows what's going
- 6:47to happen with monetary policies.
- 6:49Right. So they're back in the black now, but they're not celebrating too much,
- 6:53still being realistic. Exactly.
- 6:55And this brings up another interesting thing about their financials,
- 6:58how they treat their shareholders.
- 7:00They're actually going to give out dividends for 2024, even though they're being
- 7:03cautious about the future.
- 7:05That's a pretty big sign they're committed to taking care of those shareholders.
- 7:09Definitely a good sign, especially since they didn't give any dividends in 2023.
- 7:13This one-tier exempt final dividend of $0.0022986 Singapore dollars per share
- 7:21comes out to around $2 million, shows they're ready to share profits,
- 7:24even with all the uncertainty.
- 7:26Yeah, and it could be a way to make investors feel good about the company and
- 7:29attract new investments, especially if they've got big plans for the future.
- 7:32They also finished something called a capital reduction back in December 2024, before.
- 7:37What does that mean? So basically, a capital reduction means they're making
- 7:41the value of the company's share capital smaller.
- 7:44It's a way to give value back to shareholders, especially if the company has a lot of cash.
- 7:50It can also make shares more affordable if someone new wants to invest.
- 7:54Okay, makes sense. But could reducing their capital base hurt them later on?
- 7:58Like, will they have enough money to do what they need to do? It's a good question.
- 8:01They're trying to walk a fine line, you know, keep the shareholders happy,
- 8:05attract new investment, but they still need enough money to run the company and grow.
- 8:10And that's where the shareholder loan from Edward Lee Yu Ming gets really interesting.
- 8:16Oh, yeah. Things are getting complicated. All right. So this shareholder loan,
- 8:19it's not often that you see a company's director and controlling shareholder
- 8:23lending money back to the company they basically control.
- 8:26Seems a little odd. It definitely is. And the thing is, this loan,
- 8:30it's for a lot of money, $27.822 million Singapore dollars, and it's unsecured,
- 8:36and it's up to the company when they want to pay it back.
- 8:39That's a lot of faith in MDR Limited's management. And the interest rate is
- 8:43tied to bank rates, so it's not like he's getting a sweetheart deal here.
- 8:46It almost feels like he's trying to give them some breathing room while also
- 8:49making sure they've got to perform well. That's a really good point.
- 8:52It definitely makes you think about what this means for the other shareholders.
- 8:56Is he saying he's confident about MDR's future.
- 9:00Or maybe is it hiding some problems they haven't talked about?
- 9:03It's hard to know for sure. Yeah.
- 9:05It's a little mysterious. On one hand, you've got the guy who probably knows
- 9:10the company better than anyone else putting his own money in.
- 9:13But on the other hand, it does make you wonder if they really needed this cash
- 9:17more than they're saying.
- 9:19And this kind of goes back to their outlook for 2025. Remember,
- 9:22they said things are cautious. They know there's some stuff out there that could hurt them.
- 9:27Geopolitical problems, trade wars, and who knows what's going to happen with interest rates.
- 9:32Any of that could really mess up their plans. So they're doing better now,
- 9:35but they're not getting cocky. Yeah, I think that's smart.
- 9:38So for someone who's following MDR Limited, what are the big things to keep
- 9:42an eye on over the next year?
- 9:43Well, definitely watch out for those big picture things, the global stuff.
- 9:48Like what happens with geopolitics, trade, and those interest rates?
- 9:52Will it actually affect their business? Right. Can they handle it if things
- 9:55get rough? Another thing to watch is how their different parts of the business are doing.
- 10:00DMS, they seem to be changing things up, moving away from regular retail and
- 10:05focusing more on those ZYM mobile plans.
- 10:08Is that going to work or will they miss those walk-in sales?
- 10:12And AMS, can they keep those good margins even if they're doing fewer repairs?
- 10:16Yeah. That's going to be important for them to stay profitable.
- 10:19And of course, keep an eye on their investments.
- 10:21Are they going to buy more companies or will they play it safe because things are so unpredictable?
- 10:28It's interesting, right? There are so many things that could happen.
- 10:30That's what makes following a company like MDR so interesting.
- 10:33It's like a story that's still being written.
- 10:36Exactly. And that's what's cool about these deep dives. We don't always get
- 10:39clear answers, but we can try to understand things better, see the opportunities
- 10:43and the risks. We've looked at the numbers, we've talked about their different
- 10:47business segments, and we've tried to figure out what they're planning.
- 10:51Now it's up to you to keep learning about MDR Limited. And remember,
- 10:55sometimes the most important stuff is hidden in the details. Just got to look for it.
- 11:00Thanks for joining us for this deep dive. And remember, stay curious.
- 11:03Music.