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In the Headlines: Andrew Tate · Deadly Divas True Crime Podcast

• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, divas and dudes.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Tina and welcome back to your favorite true crime podcast, Deadly Divas.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: I am flying solo for another in the headlines this morning, but don't worry, Sarah will be back with me for our regularly scheduled Friday episode.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: For now though, I am here to update y'all on the vile and repulsive Andrew Tate.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just saying this douchebag's name just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: But the good news is that Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are currently sitting in jail in Miami and things aren't looking so great for them.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: The United Kingdom is trying to extradite them.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Romanian prosecutors just hit them with a new indictment, and somehow, nearly four years after the Tate brothers were first arrested in Romania, this entire situation has gotten even bigger and far more convoluted.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: So if you vaguely remember Andrew Tate getting arrested back in 2022 and thought, wait, wasn't he already charged with human trafficking?
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever happened with that?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: There are now separate criminal proceedings involving the Tate brothers in both Romania and the United Kingdom, and they're in the United States at present fighting that extradition battle.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: And most recently, Andrew got hit with a civil suit from his ex-girlfriend, which we'll talk about later.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: I have spent entirely too much time untangling which allegations belong to which case so that y'all don't have to.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: Today I'm gonna explain exactly what Andrew and Tristan Tate are accused of, what happened to that original Romanian case, why they ended up back in the United States, why federal agents arrested them in Miami this summer, what's in this brand new Romanian indictment, and where this clusterfuck stands at present.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Before we get into all that though, I need to give you a couple disclaimers.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew and Tristan Tate have denied the criminal allegations against them.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: They have not been convicted of the offenses we are discussing today, and these are active criminal proceedings.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: This episode discusses allegations of sexual assault, human trafficking, exploitation, and offenses involving minors.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: So please take care while listening.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Now let's get into it.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: For those of you who may not know, who even are the Tate brothers?
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, to be blunt, they are a couple of weak, pathetic scumbag losers.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess y'all might need a little more context than that.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew Tate is 39 years old, a former professional kickboxer and dual citizen of the United States and United Kingdom.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: His younger brother, Tristan, is 38.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: And while both men have developed enormous online followings, Andrew is the one who became the face of the Tate Empire.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: His first real taste of mainstream fame came in 2016 when he appeared on the British version of Big Brother.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: But that did not last very long.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew was removed from the show after a video service that appeared to show him repeatedly striking a woman with a belt and verbally abusing her.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Andrew, of course, said that encounter was consensual.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's just my opinion.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: You can come to your own.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: Getting kicked off, Big Brother was unfortunately not the end of this guy.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: If anything, it was just the beginning.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Over the next several years, he built an enormous online persona around money, quote unquote masculinity, expensive cars, beautiful women, and the idea that most men were basically sleepwalking through life, while Andrew Tate was the super genius who had unlocked the secret code to living your wildest fantasies.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: He called himself Top G.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, seriously.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: And depending on who you asked, Andrew Tate was either teaching young men and boys to become confident, successful, and financially independent, or selling misogyny and toxic masculinity to young, impressionable teenagers while posing in front of a Bugatti.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Unsurprisingly, his comments about women repeatedly landed him in controversy.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: And when I say controversy, I don't mean Andrew Tate occasionally said something that crossed a line.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: After the Harvey Weinstein allegations exploded into the Me Too movement, Tate wrote, if you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bear some responsibility.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's also said that women belong in the home and shouldn't even be allowed to drive.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: And while discussing whether women are men's property, Tate said, I'm not saying they're property.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying that they are given to the man and belong to the man.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: I know that quote is about as contradictory as possible.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: This guy is definitely a genius.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's this.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: While describing how he would respond if a girlfriend accused him of cheating, Tate said, it's bang out the machete, boom in her face, and grip her up by the neck.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm actually cutting that quote short because he goes on to describe slapping and grabbing and choking the woman before having sex with her.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: So when you hear people describe Andrew Tate's online persona as misogynistic, we're not talking about vague or ambiguous statements.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about blatant comments about violence against women, power over women, and ownership of women.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: Thankfully, several major social media platforms eventually banned him, but that did not make him disappear.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: If anything, it made him even more famous.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, that is just indicative of how sick our society is.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Clips of Tate were still everywhere, relentlessly reposted by his fans and followers across TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, and podcasts.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: And all of that attention wasn't just making Andrew Tate famous, it was making him money, a lot of money.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: Tate built an entire business empire around the image he was selling online.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm rich.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: I know how the world really works.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And if you listen to me, I can teach you how to get rich too.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: One of his most famous ventures was Hustlers University, an online subscription program where members paid to learn different ways of making money.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: But Hustlers University came later.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Long before Andrew Tate was selling his followers lessons on how to get rich, he and Tristan had already found a very lucrative way of making money themselves, webcams.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: The brothers got into the webcam sex business while they were still living in England, operating in and around Luton, where women performed sexually online for paying customers.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: According to women who later spoke publicly, Andrew could initially be incredibly charming.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: One woman said she was only 20 when Tate approached her about working for him and she had never done webcam work before.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: But women involved with Tate's early British operation would later make extremely serious allegations against him.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: One accused Andrew of rape.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Another accused him of repeatedly strangling her.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: In 2015, British police arrested him on suspicion of sexual assault and physical abuse.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: And while that investigation was still ongoing, Andrew Tate left Britain and eventually established himself in Romania.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I can't factually say that Andrew Tate moved to Romania because women in England had accused him of rape and abuse and that he was fleeing the investigation, but I can tell you what Andrew Tate himself has said on the record about why he moved.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Years before his Romanian arrest, Tate recorded a video complaining about the way sexual assault allegations were handled in Western countries.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: He complained that a woman could make an accusation and police would arrest you, search your belongings, go through your phone, and investigate your life.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And when he compared that system with Romania, Tate said, this is probably 40% of the reason I moved to Romania.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then, I'm not a fucking rapist, but I like the idea of being able to just say and do what I want.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: I like being free.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those are his words.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: And they paint a pretty clear picture for me.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, once Andrew and Tristan were established in Romania, their webcam operation expanded.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew himself openly discussed strategies for meeting women, sleeping with them, getting them emotionally invested, and then introducing them to webcam work.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: Years later, Romanian prosecutors would allege something strikingly similar.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: They called it the loverboy method.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Prosecutors alleged that women were recruited through false promises of love and relationships before being brought under the control of an organized group and sexually exploited for profit.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: The Tate brothers, of course, deny that their webcam business involved trafficking or coercion.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: But when Romanian authorities finally came knocking in December 2022, they weren't investigating some completely unrelated business Andrew Tate had stumbled into after becoming internet famous.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: The allegations involved a business model whose roots stretched all the way back to the Tate Brothers' days in England.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: On December 29, 2022, Romanian authorities raided properties connected to Andrew and Tristan Tate.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Both brothers were arrested, and two associated Romanian women were also taken into custody.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: The investigation was being handled by DIICOT, which is Romania's agency that is responsible for investigating organized crime and terrorism.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Prosecutors allege that the group had formed an organized criminal operation designed to sexually exploit women.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: Prosecutors say the women were transported to properties in Romania and pressured or coerced into creating sexually explicit content online, with money generated from that content allegedly going to the operation.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew was also accused of rape.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: The brothers denied everything, and Andrew quickly began promoting a very different explanation for what was happening to his followers online.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: According to him, this wasn't law enforcement finally catching up with a criminal enterprise.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was, quote unquote, the Matrix.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: Tate has repeatedly claimed that powerful forces want to silence him because he found the secret to success and was spreading it online.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: And his supporters embraced that explanation.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then the Romanian prosecution actually did run into some serious problems, unfortunately.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Before a Romanian criminal case can actually proceed to trial, a judge reviews the indictment and evidence to determine whether everything was obtained and presented legally.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And eventually, judges started finding problems, pretty significant ones.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: In November 2024, the Bucharest Court of Appeals identified multiple irregularities in the indictment.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Some witness statements were excluded from evidence, and the court found problems with how some of the allegations had been presented and how prosecutors had handled portions of the case.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Then in December 2024, the appeals court ultimately ruled that the case could not proceed to trial in its existing form.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I want to be very clear with this.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: The Tate brothers were not acquitted.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: A court did not hear all of the evidence and declare them innocent.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: The case was sent back because of legal and procedural problems with the prosecution.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: For Andrew and Tristan, though, this was obviously an enormous victory, and it gave Andrew even more ammunition for his argument that the prosecution had been the matrix coming after him all along.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: But while everybody was watching the first Romanian case struggle, another investigation had already been opened, and the allegations in this one were even more serious.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: In August 2024, authorities searched multiple properties connected to the Tate brothers as part of a separate investigation.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: This time they were investigating allegations including human trafficking, trafficking minors, sexual intercourse with a minor, money laundering, and influencing witness statements.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Again, the brothers denied any wrongdoing.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: But this second investigation continued while the first Romanian case was being fought over in court.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then in February 2025, something happened that confused the hell out of people following this story, myself included.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Romanian authorities lifted the travel restrictions that had prevented Andrew and Tristan from leaving the country.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: And almost immediately they got on a private jet and flew to Florida.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, y'all, Florida has now entered the chat, because of course they have.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: The brothers landed near Fort Lauderdale on February 27, 2025, and their arrival caused an immediate uproar.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew even managed to pick up even more legal trouble while he was there.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: His former girlfriend, model Brianna Stern, filed a civil lawsuit in Los Angeles, accusing him of sexually assaulting and beating her at the Beverly Hills Hotel in March 2025.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Stern alleges that what began as consensual sex became violent, with Tate choking her nearly unconscious and repeatedly hitting her in the head.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: She says she was later diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: So even during this very brief window when Tate was allowed to leave Romania and return to the US, another woman had come forward with serious allegations.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like this guy makes a mess wherever he goes, y'all.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, while they were legally permitted to travel, they were still required to comply with Romanian authorities, and they did eventually return to Romania.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: But while the brothers were bouncing between Romania and Florida, another country was waiting for them.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: The United Kingdom had its own case, and that one was about to become a very big problem for these losers.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew and Tristan Tate grew up in Luton, England, and British authorities had been investigating allegations involving conduct that allegedly occurred years before the brothers ever became internationally famous.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: In 2024, Romania approved a British request to extradite Andrew and Tristan, but only after their Romanian legal proceedings were finished.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So essentially, the UK had called Dibbs.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Romania just wasn't done with them yet.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Then in 2025, British prosecutors announced criminal charges involving three alleged victims.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew faced 10 counts, including allegations of rape, assault, human trafficking, and controlling prostitution for gain.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Tristan faced 11 counts, including allegations of rape, assault, and human trafficking.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Both denied the allegations, but that still wasn't the end of the UK case, because in July of this year, British prosecutors announced even more charges.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: And this time, there were four additional alleged victims.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew Tate was charged with another seven counts of rape, three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, three counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and 19 additional charges relating to indecent images of a child and extreme pornography.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Tristan was charged with two additional counts of rape, one count of sexual assault, and three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Altogether, British authorities now say the allegations involve seven victims and conduct allegedly occurring between 2010 and 2017.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: And on July 18th, while Andrew and Tristan were in the United States, the U.S.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Marshal Service arrested them in Miami at the request of British authorities.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Suddenly, the men who had spent years fighting criminal proceedings in Romania were sitting in an American jail while the United Kingdom tried to drag them across the Atlantic.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then, while they were sitting in that Miami jail, Romania dropped another bomb.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: On September 4th, less than a week ago, Romanian prosecutors formally indicted Andrew and Tristan Tate in that second investigation.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the development that brought us here today.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: According to prosecutors, Andrew Tate now faces allegations including trafficking minors, money laundering, sexual intercourse with a minor, and witness tampering.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: Tristan has been indicted for complicity.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Romanian authorities allege that at least one girl involved in the case was just 15 years old when she was recruited in Luton, England.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: They further allege that the operation generated more than$1 million from her exploitation with some of the proceeds allegedly laundered through purchases of luxury vehicles.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: As usual, Andrew and Tristan deny the allegations.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: And because they're currently locked up in the United States, Romanian law does allow the case to eventually proceed in absentia, meaning they could potentially be tried without physically being there.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: But before Romania even gets that far, the brothers have a more immediate problem.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: The United Kingdom wants them.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: And Andrew and Tristan really, really want out of that Miami jail.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: They've been detained in Miami since their July arrests.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently Andrew is not enjoying the accommodations.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Since being locked up, Tate has complained about being held in the special housing unit, dirty drinking water, lack of sleep, and a neighboring inmate who he claims is a cannibal who screams throughout the night.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: At one point, he described his surroundings as the worst possible conditions the U.S.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: government provides.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't sound very alpha male to me, y'all.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds very whiny bitch getting what he deserves, in my opinion.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the Bureau of Prisons says the facility's drinking water is certified safe.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: So apparently the top G has discovered that federal jail is, in fact, not an all-inclusive resort.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Their attorneys asked a federal judge to release them while they fight extradition.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: The defense argued that the brothers had complied with legal restrictions in Romania and that they were not gonna run.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Prosecutors basically said, yeah, have you met these dudes?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And on September 9th, this past Wednesday, U.S.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Magistrate Judge Lauren Lewis refused to release them.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: The judge found that the brothers posed a flight risk, which means as of right now, Andrew and Tristan Tate remain behind bars in Miami.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: They're still fighting extradition to the UK, where prosecutors intend to prosecute them on dozens of charges involving multiple alleged victims.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, Romania has just filed a new indictment containing allegations involving minors, trafficking, and money laundering.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: And after years of Andrew Tate telling his millions of followers that the criminal cases against him were collapsing, he is currently facing criminal proceedings on multiple fronts in multiple countries.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it sounds like the Tate bros are probably fucked.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: What a shame.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, y'all, there is so much more to the Tate story that I could not possibly have covered in one in the headlines episode.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: These allegations stretch back more than a decade, and beyond the criminal cases, there is the enormous influence Andrew and Tristan Tate have had on the manosphere and on young men and boys online.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: I do hope that the women they exploited get some kind of justice.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: But regardless of what ultimately happens in the courtrooms, the ideology that helped popularize the manosphere and misogyny and toxic masculinity is still going strong.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: So if you guys want a full deep dive on the Tates, let me know.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can definitely get that out there.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, I will be keeping an eye on all of these cases as they move forward.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, take care of yourselves and each other.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be a douchebag and be divas, if not deadly.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.