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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform tonight. Donald Trump has just rocked
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Speaker 1: our world, wiping fifty billion dollars off our stock market,
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Speaker 1: driven our dollar to a five year low, and it
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Speaker 1: could be about to get worse. What is he up to?
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Speaker 1: That is the big story tonight, plus the Abenezy government's
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Speaker 1: bizarre new ad it's going to fight on the cost
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Speaker 1: of living. I mean, isn't that exactly its problem? Plenty
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Speaker 1: more as well, including why are allegendier Nazis arrested for
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Speaker 1: just carrying masks but pro Palestinian extremists are not even
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Speaker 1: when they're wearing masks and intimidating Jews. Why the double standards?
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Speaker 1: But first, Donald Trump has just given the world a
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Speaker 1: massive front Australia too. I heard the panic all day
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Speaker 1: this new US president and is crazy. He's an economic lunatic.
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Speaker 1: He started a tariff war that we're told could send
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Speaker 1: China into an economic crisis, destroy Canada, rock Europe, and
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Speaker 1: maybe even push Australia into a real recession. And that's
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Speaker 1: exactly what Trump wants the world to think. So now
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Speaker 1: I don't want to show you what's really happening and
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Speaker 1: how it's already working for Trump. But also how it
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Speaker 1: might even work for us despite this pain. Trump of
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Speaker 1: the weekend hit Canada and Mexico with twenty five percent
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Speaker 1: tariffs and that's an extra tax and almost all their
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Speaker 1: imports to America. He slapped ten percent tariffs on China
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Speaker 1: as well, as said the European Union would be next.
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Speaker 1: He told Americans this morning, well, sure this might hurt
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Speaker 1: them as well, make their imports more expensive, but it
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Speaker 1: would be worth it.
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Speaker 2: We may have short term, some little pain, and people
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Speaker 2: understand that, but long term, the United States has been
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Speaker 2: ripped off by virtually every country in the world.
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Speaker 3: We have dappers.
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Speaker 2: It's with almost every country, not every country, but almost,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to change it.
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Speaker 3: It's been unfair.
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Speaker 2: That's why we are thirty six trillion dollars. We have
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Speaker 2: deficits with everybody. We help everybody. We've been helping everybody
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Speaker 2: for years, and to be honest, I don't think they're appreciated.
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Speaker 1: Now. You see here the big picture already. You know,
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Speaker 1: truants to be talking about it for decades. He wants
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Speaker 1: the world to stop taking America for granted. And to
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Speaker 1: be honest, it has lately, I mean the West for
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Speaker 1: decades has been making America do most of its fighting.
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Speaker 1: The third world has been demanding aid. China has been
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Speaker 1: stealing American technology and then flooding with cheap goods. Mexico
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Speaker 1: doing next to nothing to stop millions of legal immigrants
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Speaker 1: across the border to the US. Mexico, China, and Canada
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Speaker 1: not cracking down on the fentanyl that's flooding into the US.
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Speaker 2: Ventana has killed this year at least two hundred thousand people.
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Speaker 2: It's boring in from China through Mexico and Canada, and
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Speaker 2: they've got to stop it.
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Speaker 3: And if they don't stop it, the tariffs are going
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Speaker 3: to get worse, a lot worse.
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Speaker 1: So now Canada and Mexico are getting hit first and
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Speaker 1: worse than the easy targets. It's in the world a message,
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Speaker 1: your message that Trump now wants Europe to hear very loud.
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Speaker 2: It will definitely happen with the European Union. I can
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Speaker 2: tell you that because they've really taken advantage of us,
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Speaker 2: and you know, we have over a three hundred billion
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Speaker 2: dollar deficit. They don't take our cars, they don't take.
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Speaker 3: Our farm products, they take almost nothing, and we take
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Speaker 3: everything from them, millions of cars, tremendous amounts of food
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Speaker 3: and farm products. So the UK is way out of.
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Speaker 2: Line, and we'll see the UK, but European Union is
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Speaker 2: really out of line. UK is out of line, but
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that I think.
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Speaker 3: That one can be worked out. But the European Union
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Speaker 3: is it's an atrocity.
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Speaker 1: Right to leave. Aside some of the exaggerations, but the
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Speaker 1: strategy here is clear. Donald Trump wants America to be
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Speaker 1: feared again so that other countries make him a deal
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Speaker 1: and almost anybody really and this is a huge change.
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Speaker 1: I've been over the past four years and we've been
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Speaker 1: told correctly that China is in fact the scary one.
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Speaker 1: You know, America is a toothless giant. It's China who's
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Speaker 1: getting strong. It's China that's flexing its muscles. Is China.
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Speaker 1: There's bullying countries, bullying Australia, which does even now and
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Speaker 1: getting its way. But now Trump wants America to be
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Speaker 1: feared as well. He's reminding the world America under him
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Speaker 1: is again the top dog. If you don't treat it right,
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Speaker 1: give it pats, you're going to pay. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: instant results last weekend as Trump hit China and Mexico
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Speaker 1: and cannab with his tariffs. He also sent his Secretary
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Speaker 1: of State, Marco Rubio to Panama to tell its presidents
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Speaker 1: stop closing up to China, stop let in China get
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Speaker 1: its companies involved in the Panama Canal, a canal that
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Speaker 1: the US built and which is so crucial to US trade. Well, Hello,
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Speaker 1: Panama's president folded instantly said yesterday he wouldn't now renew
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Speaker 1: Panama's the year with China next year to join its
5:19
Speaker 1: Belton Road initiative has been part of it, but now
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Speaker 1: he might look even for ways to scrap it even
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Speaker 1: earlier if he could. When did you last see a
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Speaker 1: world leader jump like that for an American president? And
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Speaker 1: I'll point out they're keeping China's hands off. The Panama
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Speaker 1: Canal is critical for Australia too. We cannot have China
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Speaker 1: controlling even more of the world's shipping lanes that actually
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Speaker 1: help supply Australia. Now with Canada, it's not clear now
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Speaker 1: what it must actually do to get Trump to lift
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Speaker 1: these sanctions was really going to hurt it. Trump is
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Speaker 1: complaining about fentanyl coming over its border, shocking drug which
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Speaker 1: Canada's third left wing prime minister to you criminalize can
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Speaker 1: you believe Trump also complains about Canada's big trade surplus
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Speaker 1: with the US and even said Canada should become the
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Speaker 1: fifty first state of the United States, much like he
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Speaker 1: also wants Denmark to give Greenland to him. And I
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Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy. I think it's probably an ambic claim.
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Speaker 1: And it's also costing America. I mean, Canada's now hitting
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Speaker 1: the US with its own tariffs and Canadian fans booed
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Speaker 1: the American anthem at the Toronto Raptors NBA game on
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Speaker 1: the weekend with the La Clippers. But that's pretty sure
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Speaker 1: Canada's going to make a deal of Mexico. Will European
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Speaker 1: countries will they have to? And I don't think Trump
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Speaker 1: cares what deal they actually give him. As long as
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Speaker 1: America gets something, America's power is back. And if that
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Speaker 1: it remains countries like Panama that their interests line please
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Speaker 1: in the US rather than China, we might even be
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Speaker 1: just a bit safer, because in the end, we do
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Speaker 1: need a stronger US. Just look what four years of
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Speaker 1: a week one has unleashed. Well, like I said, we're
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Speaker 1: already paying for Donald Trump's tariff war and has barely
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Speaker 1: got started. The Australian dollar today fell even lower to
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Speaker 1: under sixty one. Sense, I hope you were planning going overseas.
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Speaker 1: It's now lost nearly nine percent of its value against
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Speaker 1: the US dollars. As Trump was elected, the stock market
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Speaker 1: was also hammered, losing fifty billion dollars. Joining me is
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Speaker 1: economists and former Productivity Commissioner Judith Sloan, now a columnists
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Speaker 1: with The Australian. Judith, great to see you. How could
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Speaker 1: Trump's tariff war hurt us? Especially, you know with the
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Speaker 1: ten percent is put on China's exports to the US,
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Speaker 1: which is going to clober its economy.
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Speaker 4: Well, hello Andrew, Yes, well that is the point. I
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Speaker 4: suppose it's good news to mention the fact that Australia
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Speaker 4: actually doesn't run a deficit with the US. We actually
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Speaker 4: have quite small trade flows between Australia and America. We
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Speaker 4: have quite big capital flows, but quite small trade flows.
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Speaker 4: I think there's meat, there's some other agricultural wine, there's
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Speaker 4: some some forms of steel, but it's pretty it's small beer.
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Speaker 4: But the real danger for US is that dog leg
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Speaker 4: via China. So if they impose and bear in mind
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Speaker 4: the ten percent tariff that Trump has announced is in
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Speaker 4: addition to the tariffs that were already imposed by him,
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Speaker 4: that were kept by Biden. Interestingly, and so if that
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Speaker 4: leads to a weakening in the Chinese economy, that will
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Speaker 4: flow back into some of our important commodities, including I
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Speaker 4: and cole and particular.
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Speaker 1: What does this mean for the possibility of interest rate cuts.
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Speaker 1: I've heard from people say, well, now that this has happened,
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Speaker 1: that's now less likely or less likely to happen soon.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's very hard to tell. So you know, the
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Speaker 4: argument is that the tariffs will be inflationary, probably only
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Speaker 4: slightly inflationary. The fact that it's driven up the value
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Speaker 4: of the US dollar is actually kind of upsetting the
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Speaker 4: effect of the tariff, by the way, But I think
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Speaker 4: people it's everyone's reading tea leaves at the moment, including
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Speaker 4: you know what Trump finally intends to do. But the
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Speaker 4: fair chairman Jerome Power recently held the cash rate there,
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Speaker 4: and some people were interpreting that as waiting and see
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Speaker 4: what was going to happen with Trump and the tariffs.
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Speaker 1: Now we've been told to I mean, this is just
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Speaker 1: turning everything we've been told for years and years, decades.
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Speaker 1: When I was at school tariffs are bad. Free trade
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Speaker 1: is good. You know, the world benefits from free trade.
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Speaker 1: Now we have Trump saying the opposite, not that the
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Speaker 1: world benefits but the US gets clobbed. But could he
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Speaker 1: actually be onto something that tariffs could make the US
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Speaker 1: more self sufficient when we've only just seen, particularly with
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, with the war in Ukraine, how dangerous it
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Speaker 1: is to rely on the rest of the world's display
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Speaker 1: our necessities.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think that's a valid point, but I
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Speaker 4: think tariffs would be a very bad way of doing that.
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Speaker 4: If you want to, for example, have a factory that
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Speaker 4: producers insulin, you should subsidize that factory and prevent it
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Speaker 4: exporting it, and you probably should prevent the Chinese owning it.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: So those are all pretty tracronian things to do. But
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Speaker 4: I think tariffs would actually impose greater costs and uncertain benefits.
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Speaker 4: But look, I think and Andrew, you might want to
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Speaker 4: sort of investigate this in the coming weeks. He has
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Speaker 4: a point that the advocates of the global trading system
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Speaker 4: rather ignore the obvious weaknesses, the cheating, the deception that
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Speaker 4: goes on. So China is a member of the World
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Speaker 4: Trade Organization's We had a free trade agreement with them,
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Speaker 4: but they didn't prevent them putting the tariffs up on balley,
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Speaker 4: on wine, on lobsters.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of sort of cheating and ducking
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Speaker 4: and weaving that goes on. So we're not comparing the
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Speaker 4: Trump tariff idea with some sort of nirvana of fair
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Speaker 4: and free trade. So I think that there's quite a
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Speaker 4: lot of water to go under the bridge of this debate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not even including the way that trying
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Speaker 1: to massively subsidizes some of the industries that are creating
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Speaker 1: havoc in the West, like it's electrical vehicle industry. Judah Sloane,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much, indeed for your time. Now. We'll
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Speaker 1: have more on Donald Trump shaking the world with this
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Speaker 1: tariff war later, but back to Australia. Labour's new advertising
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Speaker 1: blitz today is Peter Dutton. I've got to laugh because
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Speaker 1: here's Labor actually wanting the next selection to be about
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Speaker 1: the cost of living.
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Speaker 5: These are all cost of living measures introduced by the
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Speaker 5: federal Labor government because we understand the pressure families are
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Speaker 5: under and every little bit helps. But look who was
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Speaker 5: opposed to every single.
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Speaker 6: One of them.
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Speaker 5: Whichever way you look at it, you'll be worse off
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Speaker 5: under Duteu.
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Speaker 1: Look, cost of living is actually Labour's weak spot. Consider
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Speaker 1: just the same day that we get that AD. Even
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Speaker 1: the ABC's Four Corners is reporting tonight that Australians are
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Speaker 1: doing it tougher than in Eighty two percent of electorates
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Speaker 1: polled households are barely covering living costs, and that's up
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Speaker 1: from just eight percent three years ago. This is just incredible.
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Speaker 1: Also today the Independent Food Distributed to Australia, which represents
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Speaker 1: companies that supply food to Supermoch's cafes restaurants, can imagine
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Speaker 1: they've got lots of fridges, lots of chillers, using lots
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Speaker 1: of electricity, and they say we're in pain. Power costs
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Speaker 1: have gone up fifty percent under labor and that's got
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Speaker 1: to cause food prices to go up. They want the
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Speaker 1: government to dump its target for cutting missions and instead
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Speaker 1: get more gas and coal to cut power prices. They
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Speaker 1: don't fall for this green power. It's cheaper hoax. But
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Speaker 1: this government is so blind to the cost of its
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Speaker 1: global warming schemes, or maybe it's just so embarrassed you
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Speaker 1: just got to list you just said, listen to one
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Speaker 1: of its ministers. Tim is today ducking and weaving about
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Speaker 1: all that on Sky News.
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Speaker 7: Can you tell us this morning what is the total
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Speaker 7: system cost?
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Speaker 1: I'm very glad you raised it.
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Speaker 8: You don't make electricity prices and energy prices lower for
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Speaker 8: austral and industry and households by making them higher.
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Speaker 1: That's what That's what Peter Dutton's need.
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Speaker 7: That's not exactly a revelation.
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Speaker 9: I asked you about your plan is a nuclear plan?
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Speaker 7: Could we stick on that? What is the total Let
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Speaker 7: me just.
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Speaker 10: Let me just the renewable plan.
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Speaker 8: Peter Dutton's nuclear react to strategy in terms of.
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Speaker 7: I don't even want to talk about his want to.
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Speaker 7: I want to talk about your plan. What is the
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Speaker 7: total That's a pretty simple question.
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Speaker 1: So it's a.
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Speaker 8: Question that that is that the Energy Minister would be
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Speaker 8: very happy to engage with you.
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Speaker 1: As a dog. It's a dog of a plan. They
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Speaker 1: can't sell it and he doesn't know the costs because
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Speaker 1: they don't. It's a religion of them. They've never worked
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Speaker 1: out the costs of their plans. Never joined me. Is
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Speaker 1: the panel. Michael Kroger form a Victorian Liberal President, David Elliott,
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Speaker 1: former New South Wales Liberal minister Michael if I got
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Speaker 1: this right, here is a labor saying, never mind who
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Speaker 1: actually caused this cost that live in crisis. Just see
15:18
Speaker 1: how we're spending your taxes now on handouts, so you
15:21
Speaker 1: don't notice quite how much with stuff to sign.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a terrible ad, Andrew, because don't forget, everything
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Speaker 11: they're talking about is in the past. So the current
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Speaker 11: polls reflect people's views on all of those things. So
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Speaker 11: the electortives, unless they change their mind, have decided that
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Speaker 11: Albanzi has done a terrible job on these things. So
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Speaker 11: you know, if you say they've a fifty two fought out,
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Speaker 11: which it sort of looks like to me, there's a
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Speaker 11: four percent swing against the Albanese government despite all these
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Speaker 11: wonderful things they've done. And you've forgotten to be excited
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Speaker 11: about the green hydrogen revolution, Andrew, which is going to
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Speaker 11: be fantastics countries as we know. I mean, it's fantastic.
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Speaker 11: So the electorate has passed judgment on this ad. It's
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Speaker 11: a terrible ad. You're right, they should get off cost
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Speaker 11: of living as an issue because their record is shocking.
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Speaker 11: The problem they've got is that every other issue is
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Speaker 11: running against them. They can't talk about their wonderful record
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Speaker 11: of combating antisemitism. They can't talk about DEI, they can't
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Speaker 11: talk about energy prices, the two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 11: You know, they've got a very poor record everywhere they could.
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Speaker 11: You know, they can't talk about their great relationship with
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Speaker 11: the Israeli government, the British government, or the American government.
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Speaker 11: I mean, where do they go in terms of issues?
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Speaker 11: It goes back to the twenty two election, which is
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Speaker 11: all about a lie based on Morrison's cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 11: We can fix it with the two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 11: five dollars. Now people know that was a lie Andrew,
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Speaker 11: and they're paying the price for that.
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Speaker 1: But David Elliott, will this ad work?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 9: I don't think it will. I mean, if I was
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Speaker 9: a later strategist, I'd be saying to the Prime Minister PM,
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Speaker 9: don't poke the bear, don't wake up the economic debate,
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Speaker 9: because you will lose the economic debate. Labor have not
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Speaker 9: been strong on economics for over half a century, save
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Speaker 9: a couple of policies of the Hawk government. But I
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Speaker 9: would be staying right away from the economy. It's got
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Speaker 9: to be the number one issue that we're going to
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Speaker 9: the polls on. And the second issue, of course, unfortunately
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Speaker 9: for labor is security, domestic and international security, both of
17:19
Speaker 9: which they're very, very weak on. And so I don't
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Speaker 9: understand the strategy of trying to bring about a discussion
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Speaker 9: on economics because by any stretch of the imagination, since
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Speaker 9: John Howard became the Prime minister that paid off the debt,
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Speaker 9: we in the Liberal Party have always had a much
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Speaker 9: much stronger credibility bank.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to the economy. It's not about making
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Speaker 1: the economy stronger in the future. It's about, look how
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Speaker 1: much of your money we've spent on you, trying to
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Speaker 1: cushion you from our decisions in the past. I don't
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Speaker 1: know it's looking not forward now. But Michael, you mentioned
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Speaker 1: the green hydrogen. This I know for a lot of
18:01
Speaker 1: people green hydrogen and what's that. But this is huge
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Speaker 1: because I reckon the ambanize. The government knows this green
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Speaker 1: of gender is killing it. For one, it says it's
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Speaker 1: going to drop its plan for tough green laws, its
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Speaker 1: nature positive plan. But now we've also got this green
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Speaker 1: hydrogen thing. We've seen all this green hydrogen schemes collapse
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Speaker 1: over the country around the country. Right. We've said, Andrew Forrest,
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Speaker 1: walk away from it, even though it's a sparker. We've
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Speaker 1: had Woodside walk away from a Japanese company walk away
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Speaker 1: from it. We've had all this company saying green hydrogen,
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Speaker 1: we admit it. Now that's just in the past the
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Speaker 1: year too expensive. Now the Queensland government says, by the way,
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Speaker 1: we're going to kill off the biggest project of all,
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Speaker 1: and that is one in Gladstone. We can't make it
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Speaker 1: work if the previous government wanted us to do it
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Speaker 1: a billion dollars extra, No, thank you, it's dead. What
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Speaker 1: does all this tell you?
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Speaker 11: It tells you this, Andrew that for twenty years, hard
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Speaker 11: left activists in the community, corporate fairs, departments in big corporations,
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Speaker 11: at universities and all of the elites, et cetera. Professes,
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Speaker 11: academics and people who are much much more intelligent than
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Speaker 11: normal people like us. They've been running a global agenda
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Speaker 11: of activist left wing causes against much opposition from the
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Speaker 11: center and the center right. The world zeitgeist has changed
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Speaker 11: over the last couple of years dramatically and dramatically in
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Speaker 11: Australia and now the working middle class look at these
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Speaker 11: schemes and they look at the governments, and the governments
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Speaker 11: are looking at these schemes thinking this is another left
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Speaker 11: wing fantasy that makes no economic sense, which is part
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Speaker 11: of this thing that oh, we've got to be the
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Speaker 11: first in the world, we've got to be leading the world.
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Speaker 11: Well not with the tax payers money. They're now saying,
19:45
Speaker 11: so people who are paying their taxes on a weekly basis.
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Speaker 11: So mate say to the Albanis the government, stop this,
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Speaker 11: and the Queens saying, liberal government, stop this. These fantasies
19:53
Speaker 11: are not going to keep going at our expense, right,
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Speaker 11: they want to spend a billion dollars on solar panels,
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Speaker 11: et cetera, et c. Andrew. So this is part of
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Speaker 11: the change in the global thinking away from fantasy funny
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Speaker 11: money schemes with ordinary working class people's money. And they
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Speaker 11: don't like it and they want it brought to an end,
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Speaker 11: and it's doing immense damage to alban Easy.
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Speaker 1: David elliott I think actually one of the things that
20:19
Speaker 1: is really destroying the government more than it ever predicted.
20:23
Speaker 1: You see it now trying to backtrack, but it's too
20:25
Speaker 1: late the anti Jewish attacks across Australia again over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: It's so shameful, this time graffiti and Sydney Jewish women
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Speaker 1: being egged by a carload of men at Bonda because
20:38
Speaker 1: they had some Jewish clothing, apparently on the home of
20:42
Speaker 1: a very prominent Melbourne Jewish family who I won't name
20:45
Speaker 1: also defaced, and a home in Perth graffeited with foul
20:49
Speaker 1: anti Jewish abuse. I mean, this is just extraordinary around
20:52
Speaker 1: the country and former Liberal Health Minister Greek Hunt says
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Speaker 1: this jew hatred is now so bad that we need
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Speaker 1: a national apology from Parliament plus an acknowledgement of the
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Speaker 1: government's failures. Is he right? Yeah?
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Speaker 9: I think he is. And I mean, if we've got
21:06
Speaker 9: to be sorry for things that happened in Australia two
21:10
Speaker 9: hundred years ago that no generation in the last one
21:13
Speaker 9: hundred years had any involvement in, surely we should be
21:16
Speaker 9: sorry for stuff that's happening right under our noses in
21:20
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five. So we have to be consistent, and
21:23
Speaker 9: the Left have to be consistent if we're to be
21:26
Speaker 9: sorry for some of the appalling things that happened to
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Speaker 9: indigenous people over the course of the first hundred years
21:35
Speaker 9: or one hundred and fifty years of commonization, of which
21:38
Speaker 9: most of us are sad about it. But we shouldn't
21:41
Speaker 9: be told that we're guilty of an offense. If we're
21:44
Speaker 9: supposed to have that shoved down our throat, well, then
21:47
Speaker 9: of course we should be saying to a modern demographic,
21:50
Speaker 9: a demographic in Australia that is being vilified right under
21:54
Speaker 9: our nases, that we're sorry, and I am sorry. I'm
21:57
Speaker 9: appalled my fellow countrymen at the moment that the way
22:01
Speaker 9: they're treating the jew the Jewish people who have come
22:04
Speaker 9: here after such an appalling treatment around the world, particularly
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Speaker 9: in Europe in the middle of the last century. And yet,
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Speaker 9: and yet we have these weak politicians at the moment
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Speaker 9: and left wing media who are giving half fast, a
22:19
Speaker 9: half fast approach to it. Well, we need to give
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Speaker 9: them a lot more surety in the Jewish community right now.
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Speaker 9: And I think an apology from the Parliament, from the
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister, from each premier would be a good way
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Speaker 9: to start.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but David, you put your fingers straight on it.
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Speaker 1: Labor apologies to be very good at apologizing for things
22:39
Speaker 1: they never did previous politicians did, stolen generations, are forced
22:43
Speaker 1: adoption of children, all that kind of stuff, but apologizing
22:46
Speaker 1: for their own mistake. It'll be a very dark day
22:49
Speaker 1: in hell before that happens. But Michael, something can be
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Speaker 1: done about this. This Saturday, big chance for some voters
22:58
Speaker 1: to really punish the party that has been absolutely the
23:01
Speaker 1: worst of whipping up the jew haters. That's the Greens. Now,
23:04
Speaker 1: the Greens are expecting to win again a by election
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Speaker 1: for the Victorian state seat of Paran on Saturday, a
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Speaker 1: seat Ay won last election very comfortably, but now former
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Speaker 1: Labor politician Tony Lupton is running against them, specifically because
23:19
Speaker 1: of their hatred of Israel. Has also quit Laboring, discussed
23:22
Speaker 1: on the issue, and he's swapping preferences with the Liberal candidate,
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Speaker 1: Rachel Westaway. Labour isn't standing candida of their own. You
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Speaker 1: know the local scene, Michael, could one of them beat
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Speaker 1: the Greens? And if so, what signal would that send? Well?
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Speaker 7: I hope so.
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Speaker 11: I was on the polling berth today in Paran. I
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Speaker 11: live in that seat. Rachel has done a fantastic job
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Speaker 11: west Way as our candidate. She has been fabulous. But
23:48
Speaker 11: it's twelve percent. Andrew it's twelve percent. That is a
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Speaker 11: big margin in anyone's language. Tony Lupton, to his greater credit,
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Speaker 11: the former Labor member, has resigned from the Labor Party
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Speaker 11: over this whole issue of anti Semitism and is running.
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Speaker 11: He's preferencing us. So I'm hoping for twelve percent, but
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Speaker 11: it's a big number. I just hope going forward to
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Speaker 11: the federal election that in the seat of Melbourne and
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Speaker 11: Griffiths Prison and Ryan the forceats held by the Greens,
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Speaker 11: that the Liberal Party federally has the courage to campaign
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Speaker 11: against the Greens, not on nuclear not on the environment,
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Speaker 11: but on the fact that these people have stirred up
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Speaker 11: Jewish hatred in this country and it's disgraceful that any
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Speaker 11: of them are in Parliament. And finally, Andrew, on this
24:34
Speaker 11: issue that we've raised before, when will Albernizi tell us
24:38
Speaker 11: whether he's going to preference the Greens over the Liberal
24:40
Speaker 11: Party at the next federal election, particularly in seats like McNamara,
24:44
Speaker 11: which is held by Josh Burns. That's the big issue
24:47
Speaker 11: coming up.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, an excellent question. I think I need to devote
24:51
Speaker 1: a program half a program to that. Thank you for
24:54
Speaker 1: reminding him. Correct David Elliott, Thank you to you both.
24:58
Speaker 1: I've just got to underline, by the way, I've got
25:01
Speaker 1: to underline that the how bad the Albanezy government screen energy,
25:06
Speaker 1: its global warming plans are falling apart, because this is
25:09
Speaker 1: a disaster. Now you will remember how often and the
25:15
Speaker 1: premise is saying Chris bone An Energy minister, said we
25:19
Speaker 1: will become a global energy superpower using green hydrogen, which
25:23
Speaker 1: is a gas made from water.
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Speaker 10: Our green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
25:31
Speaker 1: Now that's simply not going to happen. Now we've already seen,
25:34
Speaker 1: as I said before, big investors like Woodside Energy, like Origin,
25:38
Speaker 1: Kawasaki Heavy Industries, and even green billionaire Andrew Forrest all
25:43
Speaker 1: in the past year walk away from investing in it
25:46
Speaker 1: here saying the gas is too expensive. And now today
25:50
Speaker 1: the Queensland government says it's not going to sink another
25:52
Speaker 1: billion dollars into our larger screen hydrogen project, a twelve
25:57
Speaker 1: billion dollar plant and pipeline in Gladstone. That project is
26:01
Speaker 1: finished too. And I want to know when will the
26:05
Speaker 1: Albanizy government admit that it has built it's green plans
26:09
Speaker 1: on a total fantasy, a technology that hasn't even been
26:12
Speaker 1: improved at scale. Now it's falling the bits and it's
26:15
Speaker 1: blown hundreds of millions of your dollars on a mirage.
26:19
Speaker 1: When will it admit it swindled you with green snake oil?
26:25
Speaker 1: After the break, Donald Trump says he wants to have
26:28
Speaker 1: even Greenland, won't rule out war. Is he mad or cunning?
26:40
Speaker 1: Let's get back to this trade war that Donald Trump
26:42
Speaker 1: started on the weekend. As I say, it's really costs
26:44
Speaker 1: austrands billions and this is going to change the world
26:49
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot. I mean, for one, do
26:50
Speaker 1: you think investors or voters are going to have any
26:52
Speaker 1: patients now for wild global warming schemes that cut growth
26:56
Speaker 1: when we've got this tariff war making a lot of
26:58
Speaker 1: countries poorer. Joining the country's sop Foreign Affairs Rudi Greg
27:02
Speaker 1: Sheridan of The Australian, Very good to see you, But
27:05
Speaker 1: tell us what is Donald Trump's big game here?
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Speaker 6: Well, Andrew, great to be with you. Look, it's honestly
27:13
Speaker 6: a little hard to know because Trump's modus operandi with
27:19
Speaker 6: the world is that most things are a negotiation, and
27:22
Speaker 6: in a negotiation, you keep your negotiating partner guessing they
27:28
Speaker 6: don't know what you're going to do. He's actually very
27:30
Speaker 6: good at that, and that can be very effective. It
27:32
Speaker 6: gets some very substantial results for Trump and for America.
27:36
Speaker 1: It is, however, very.
27:39
Speaker 6: Disturbing to people who rely on American strategic reliability. Now,
27:45
Speaker 6: I wrote in today's paper, and I think the governments
27:49
Speaker 6: of Canada and Mexico will have an overwhelming incentive to
27:53
Speaker 6: placate Trump and to do whatever he wants. I don't
27:57
Speaker 6: think they know what to do to satisfy him.
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Speaker 1: I do think that.
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Speaker 6: America has been vastly more sinned against than sinning in
28:06
Speaker 6: the trade world. Most nations which don't practice free trade
28:11
Speaker 6: do it through what are called non tariff barriers. They
28:13
Speaker 6: don't honestly set up tariffs, They just make it impossible
28:16
Speaker 6: for you to sell your goods there.
28:19
Speaker 1: I mean, when China.
28:21
Speaker 6: Heard our trade in various sectors, it generally didn't put
28:24
Speaker 6: up barraffs. It just tariffs. It just wouldn't wouldn't license
28:27
Speaker 6: our products. So a vast number of countries do that
28:30
Speaker 6: around the world. It's a bit like the green stuff.
28:32
Speaker 6: You know, people pay lip service to net zero, just
28:37
Speaker 6: like they pay lip service to green to free trade.
28:40
Speaker 6: But they don't actually do it. So Trump is being
28:42
Speaker 6: very transparent with what he's doing, but it's still very
28:45
Speaker 6: hard to work out where it ends up, because you
28:48
Speaker 6: can't believe that twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico and
28:52
Speaker 6: Canada is a good, good idea for America in the
28:55
Speaker 6: long run.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I think America has take
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Speaker 1: it for granted. Have just look Europe, for instance, spends
29:04
Speaker 1: so little on its defense, hoping that America expecting Amera
29:08
Speaker 1: to come to its defense having spent twice as much proportionally.
29:12
Speaker 1: How should Australia be handling.
29:14
Speaker 6: This well, I think you know, the Albanezi government is
29:20
Speaker 6: more or less doing the right thing. Just shut up
29:22
Speaker 6: and don't draw attention to yourself, you know, hight in
29:26
Speaker 6: the corner and keep quiet. As due to the slam
29:29
Speaker 6: comment in your program. We don't do a big trade
29:31
Speaker 6: with America, but we have huge two way investment. Enormous
29:35
Speaker 6: two way investment, and investment is a much more intimate
29:38
Speaker 6: thing than trade. One of the scandals of our situation
29:41
Speaker 6: is that we are so dependent in trade terms on China.
29:45
Speaker 6: We talk about diversifying our trade, but we don't do
29:48
Speaker 6: anything about it. It's just like we talk about our
29:50
Speaker 6: defense forces, but we don't do anything about them. We
29:53
Speaker 6: now are as dependent on China as we were on
29:57
Speaker 6: Britain before it joined the Common Market, So we need
30:02
Speaker 6: to diversify away from China, and every time we've thought
30:05
Speaker 6: about doing that, we've made a real mess of it.
30:08
Speaker 6: Like the a darning mind that the Indians opened in Queensland.
30:13
Speaker 6: That was a big chance to diversify towards India, but
30:16
Speaker 6: we subjected them to more than a decade of green
30:19
Speaker 6: torture on the whole thing. We can't influence Trump's trade
30:24
Speaker 6: agenda and we just want to play golf with the president,
30:28
Speaker 6: flatter him and keep out of his eyesight as much
30:31
Speaker 6: as possible.
30:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that also means being going along
30:36
Speaker 1: with some of his foreign policies, like perhaps we should.
30:40
Speaker 1: And this government hasn't I noticed, Greg. I've got to
30:43
Speaker 1: say one thing Penny Wong's doing the Foreign minister. Have
30:46
Speaker 1: you noticed how often she says how lovely it was,
30:49
Speaker 1: that a privilege she was to be at Trump's inauguration
30:53
Speaker 1: and was terrific And I've never heard of talk so
30:56
Speaker 1: sweet to anyone. This is one big change. But listen,
31:00
Speaker 1: and some of Trump's asks are amazing, bringing up the
31:04
Speaker 1: Danish prime ministers saying give me Greenland, give the US Greenland.
31:09
Speaker 1: I want Greenland, sending a son in the Trump's jet
31:12
Speaker 1: to Greenland. Our locals if they want to be American.
31:15
Speaker 1: What's that about?
31:18
Speaker 6: Well, just a quick word on Penny Wong. I mean,
31:21
Speaker 6: I'm glad that she's saying all those things about Trump.
31:23
Speaker 6: We now know why she was invited to the inauguration.
31:25
Speaker 6: Marco Rubio decided to have a meeting of the Quadrilateral
31:28
Speaker 6: Group India, Japan, the US and Australia, so he had
31:31
Speaker 6: to have the foreign ministers there. And interestingly, the Alberanesi government,
31:35
Speaker 6: in servile deference to China for the last two years,
31:39
Speaker 6: has been saying, oh, the Quad's got nothing to do
31:41
Speaker 6: with security. It's all about you know, women's empowerment or
31:45
Speaker 6: emergency aid or something. So Marco Rubio says the Quad
31:49
Speaker 6: is a security group, and the Albernesi government says, yes,
31:52
Speaker 6: of course, boss, that's what we always thought. Yeah, we
31:54
Speaker 6: always thought it was.
31:54
Speaker 1: A security group.
31:55
Speaker 6: You gotcha, you know, I mean the Albernezi government just
31:58
Speaker 6: bears the impression of whoever sat on them. They're like
32:01
Speaker 6: a soft cushion, you know. But the Greenland stuff. I
32:05
Speaker 6: don't believe Trump can seriously imagine that he's going to
32:11
Speaker 6: take over Greenland. America already has a military base in Greenland.
32:16
Speaker 6: There is a slightly dangerous move to Greenland independence. I mean,
32:20
Speaker 6: it has a tiny population, not really viable, and while
32:25
Speaker 6: it's part of the Dutch establishment, you know, the Dutch
32:29
Speaker 6: are in NATO and so on. But what I think, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah,
32:34
Speaker 6: you're right, you're right. So what I think Trump is
32:37
Speaker 6: after is simply.
32:38
Speaker 1: Or what I think he'll get. I mean, who knows
32:40
Speaker 1: what he's after.
32:41
Speaker 6: But what I think he'll get ultimately is a more
32:43
Speaker 6: intimate association of Greenland with the United States and probably
32:47
Speaker 6: an expanded American military footprints. They want to make absolutely
32:51
Speaker 6: sure that there is no chance that the Russians can
32:55
Speaker 6: ever do anything in or around Greenland.
32:58
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that legitimate concern. I think you're right.
33:05
Speaker 1: What has just said, no, no, no, Well in that case,
33:07
Speaker 1: what are you going to give me? And that is
33:09
Speaker 1: how he operates. Greg Sheridan always great to talk to you.
33:12
Speaker 1: It was a great piece in The Australian Today. By
33:14
Speaker 1: the way, I recommend people read it. Thank you after
33:17
Speaker 1: the break. Why are pro Palacinian protests arrested for doing
33:22
Speaker 1: exactly what gets neo Nazis arrested? Is this politics? After
33:31
Speaker 1: what I saw yesterday, I have worked out how to
33:33
Speaker 1: get Anthony Abanezi to finally get serious about this radical
33:36
Speaker 1: anti Israel protests calling causing so much fear to Australian Jews.
33:42
Speaker 1: Call them Nazis instead. Let me show you a stunning
33:46
Speaker 1: contrast that explains this. On Australia Day, a small bunch
33:49
Speaker 1: of alleged near Nazis march in Adelaide, carrying Australian flags,
33:53
Speaker 1: singing Waltzing Matilda. You true, they were also chanting racist slogans. Now,
34:11
Speaker 1: I despise Nazis, but I don't fear them like a
34:14
Speaker 1: fear of the left wing extremests have helped whip up
34:17
Speaker 1: this frightening due hatred because the Nazis they're morons. They're
34:21
Speaker 1: just too stupid and there's too few of them to
34:23
Speaker 1: do what the left does and hijack the ABC and
34:25
Speaker 1: take over right as vestivals and get elected and control
34:28
Speaker 1: the Greens. But wow, did the police go for these morons?
34:33
Speaker 1: They arrested in charge sixteen of them, while the Prime
34:35
Speaker 1: Minister fumed.
34:38
Speaker 8: There is no place for this hateful ideology here in Australia.
34:44
Speaker 1: Now I've looked at the chargers and golli gosh. Yes,
34:48
Speaker 1: one of these allegen near Nazis was charged with assaulting
34:51
Speaker 1: police and that's serious. But eight were just charged with
34:54
Speaker 1: loitering when they be ordered to leave loitering. And the
34:58
Speaker 1: most common charge was possessing an article of disguise. Nine
35:03
Speaker 1: were charged with that, most only with that, presumably having
35:07
Speaker 1: some kind of face mask. That's fair enough. Marks are
35:12
Speaker 1: intimidating a good charge. But yesterday pro Palestine protesters marched
35:18
Speaker 1: through Melbourne, with many again calling for the end of Israel,
35:21
Speaker 1: none waving istral flag, but one carrying the black flag
35:24
Speaker 1: with the symbol of a terrorist group, the Popular Front
35:26
Speaker 1: for the Liberation of Palestine, and several there they wore
35:30
Speaker 1: face masks. That didn't just carry them, they wore them,
35:33
Speaker 1: in fact, wore them running front the police who were
35:35
Speaker 1: protecting a small group of Jewish pro Israel protesters. Why
35:39
Speaker 1: weren't these pro Palestinians arrested for disguising themselves the past demonstration.
35:45
Speaker 1: Some of them carried the yellow flag of the isbela
35:47
Speaker 1: terrorists group and charted not Waltzing Matilda. But this threat
35:51
Speaker 1: in Arabic now kaiba carbe gajahud means the the army.
36:00
Speaker 1: The Muslims are coming Jews to massacre you, as Muhammad
36:04
Speaker 1: Aami once did, but no one was arrested. What is
36:10
Speaker 1: the difference? Join me is the panel, this story of
36:12
Speaker 1: the late debate here and Sky weekdays at ten pm.
36:15
Speaker 1: Steph Chavoua, an author and senior lecture in history, A
36:17
Speaker 1: champion College Steve Plice arresting alleged near Nazis with masks
36:22
Speaker 1: singing waltson Matilda, but not pro Palestinians with masks confronting Jews.
36:26
Speaker 1: What's the difference? Is it politics? It is politics.
36:31
Speaker 12: I think there is a general fear that it's just
36:34
Speaker 12: a bad look arresting Muslims. I think people are I
36:38
Speaker 12: think a lot of people are afraid of being called racists.
36:42
Speaker 12: But it's also a numbers thing. There are thousands of
36:46
Speaker 12: pro Palestinians going to these rallies. Arresting a handful of
36:51
Speaker 12: neo Nazis that's low hanging fruit. Makes you look like
36:54
Speaker 12: you're doing something about hate speech in Australia. I don't
36:58
Speaker 12: know if there's any actual solutions this. To be honest,
37:00
Speaker 12: I'm not a huge fan of bringing in more sort
37:04
Speaker 12: of hate speech laws because they are always going to
37:06
Speaker 12: be weaponized against good legitimate speech, like critiquing Islamic immigration,
37:11
Speaker 12: for example. At the end of the day, as I
37:13
Speaker 12: always say, at bottom, this ultimately is an immigration issue.
37:17
Speaker 12: We have brought in a lot of people who hate
37:20
Speaker 12: Jews and actually who hate Australia, and the first thing
37:24
Speaker 12: we need to be doing is making sure that this group,
37:27
Speaker 12: these communities cannot get bigger.
37:31
Speaker 1: Well, it seems to me it's a bit of a
37:33
Speaker 1: free for all. There's that, and there's also the left
37:37
Speaker 1: are young being marinated in the identity politics that always
37:40
Speaker 1: cuss Jews inevitably as the enemy, being white rich and
37:45
Speaker 1: to capitalists, And Liz, what do you make of the difference?
37:49
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's good enough tourist a bunch of
37:52
Speaker 1: sad sack neo Nazi racists for carrying a mask, why
37:56
Speaker 1: are pro Palestinian extremists in the street actually wear them
38:01
Speaker 1: while being menacing to Jews? How come they're not arrest them?
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Speaker 10: Well, firstly, imagine my shock Andrew to discover that we're
38:08
Speaker 10: not allowed to wear masks anymore. It was only a
38:11
Speaker 10: few years ago that the government forced us to or
38:14
Speaker 10: that mass turns out this is a chargeable offense.
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Speaker 5: Do me a favor.
38:19
Speaker 10: But of course, people have various reasons as to why
38:22
Speaker 10: they want to hide their identities at various rallies. It
38:26
Speaker 10: might be their place of employment that were they're worried about,
38:29
Speaker 10: et cetera, et cetera, and so on. But when it
38:31
Speaker 10: comes to whether police show force or not, we've got
38:35
Speaker 10: to remember they are the muscle of the state. They
38:39
Speaker 10: are simply following orders. The guys with the boots on
38:43
Speaker 10: the grounds aren't the ones making the calls. So we
38:47
Speaker 10: have to look further up the food chain in order
38:49
Speaker 10: to ascertain when it comes to showing police force versus
38:54
Speaker 10: not showing police force, who is giving them the yay
38:58
Speaker 10: or nay.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not big on all this Albo.
39:01
Speaker 10: Bashing that goes on everything time, every time something andy
39:05
Speaker 10: Semitic happens and it's oh, this is Albo's fault. No,
39:08
Speaker 10: I imagine that there's certain people who hate the Jewish
39:11
Speaker 10: community who would do what they're going to do regardless
39:15
Speaker 10: of what Albo does or doesn't do. But when it
39:17
Speaker 10: comes to a show of police force versus not, you
39:22
Speaker 10: can bet your bottom dollar that is coming up from
39:25
Speaker 10: higher ups. Who are they who are making these calls?
39:28
Speaker 4: Can we have some names please?
39:33
Speaker 1: That's very interesting. I totally agree with you and Stephen.
39:36
Speaker 1: I also totally agree with what Liz says. I think
39:38
Speaker 1: ALBINIZI is being scapegoat a lot. I think he has
39:40
Speaker 1: been a failure, has been weak. He's, you know, trying
39:44
Speaker 1: to placate the Muslim lobby. It's all blown up in
39:48
Speaker 1: his face. I've got all that, but we didn't. Somehow
39:51
Speaker 1: suddenly he didn't. Somehow, suddenly a year and a half
39:55
Speaker 1: ago inherit, you know, sort of racist came out the ground.
40:01
Speaker 1: Jew haters came out of the ground. This has been
40:03
Speaker 1: a long time brewing, and I think a lot of
40:05
Speaker 1: blame's going to go to a lot of people, including universities.
40:10
Speaker 12: When I was growing up in Banks Down in year twelve,
40:12
Speaker 12: I remember studying the Arab Israeli conflict in my history class,
40:16
Speaker 12: and I remember one of the boy was a very
40:18
Speaker 12: very multicultural school, a lot of Middle Eastern Muslims there.
40:22
Speaker 12: I remember one of them in many of the classes.
40:24
Speaker 12: He would just say I hate Jews, I detest Jews,
40:28
Speaker 12: and I knew that he was just saying what he
40:30
Speaker 12: had heard his parents say. This is a problem that
40:32
Speaker 12: goes back a very long way. People have been talking
40:35
Speaker 12: about it for years and those same people have always
40:38
Speaker 12: been called racists. Now though, it's all coming to light
40:43
Speaker 12: and a very very ugly problem has emerged, and Peter
40:46
Speaker 12: Dutton would do an incredible thing, and he'll get a
40:49
Speaker 12: lot of votes if he pledges that he's going to
40:51
Speaker 12: do something about this social divisiveness. Not so much at
40:54
Speaker 12: the free speech level, but at the immigration level. Ozzies
40:57
Speaker 12: are sick of thousands of thousands of people coming into
41:02
Speaker 12: this country who hate this country, make it very plain
41:05
Speaker 12: that they hate this country, and if the police try
41:07
Speaker 12: to do anything about their protests, they turn violent. Enough
41:11
Speaker 12: is enough huge opportunity for Dutton.
41:16
Speaker 1: Well, yes, but the thing is, Liz, no politicians of
41:20
Speaker 1: any side like dares to talk about how you target
41:25
Speaker 1: immigration to some countries and away from another. I think
41:29
Speaker 1: the last one who tried it might have been Kevin Andrews,
41:32
Speaker 1: the late Keven Andrews who died the other recently who
41:38
Speaker 1: did it and got monster for it.
41:41
Speaker 10: Yeah, but this is a conversation that the rest of
41:43
Speaker 10: us want them to have. They are just showing their cowardice. Andrew,
41:48
Speaker 10: I mean, it's absolutely appalling that we now live in
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Speaker 10: a country where only a third of us were born here.
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Speaker 10: The monumental immigration that that speaks to, its incredibly upsetting
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Speaker 10: for a lot of people, including those who have immigrated,
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Speaker 10: who are saying no more, we can't do this anymore.
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Speaker 3: I mean Dutton to mention.
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Speaker 10: Dutton, I noticed today he was calling about giving two
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Speaker 10: hundred and fifty thousand dollars to celebrate Chinese New Year.
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Speaker 10: This is something that I object to. Why am I
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Speaker 10: as a taxpayer forking out for the celebration of foreign holidays,
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Speaker 10: foreign events? Is not even a friendly country for crying
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Speaker 10: out loud. If you're going to unite us under one flag,
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Speaker 10: ignite us under one culture.
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Speaker 1: Politics again, we're back to politics li Is because of
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Speaker 1: course they did see Chinese vote is very very bad
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Speaker 1: for them at the last selection. So that's what that's
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Speaker 1: about this Starr, Stephen TREVERA thank you very much to
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Speaker 1: you both. After the break, Why Britain stopped spay agency
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Speaker 1: warned against Prince Andrew So news flash from the world
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Speaker 1: of woke. Britain's National Health Services ordered staff not to
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Speaker 1: call fat people obese, which is a relief to be personally,
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Speaker 1: But isn't it dangerous not for doctors to level with
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Speaker 1: people about their health? Join me from London as author
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Speaker 1: broadcasting columns. Yes, the Cracker, that's the great to see you.
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Speaker 3: The rules.
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Speaker 1: Don't call someone an obese, tell them they have an obesity,
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Speaker 1: they have obesity. Don't call them alcoholic they drink, don't
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Speaker 1: call them a smoker, they spoke. What do you make
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Speaker 1: of this?
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's the kind of madness that I can
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Speaker 13: only expect from an NHS to watchdog here in Britain,
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Speaker 13: because apparently it's better to say that someone.
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Speaker 7: Has obesity than they are abese.
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Speaker 13: But guess what if you have obesity's the word for
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Speaker 13: that you're obese. And it's one of those things sort
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Speaker 13: of this conflict of interest, like are you actually going
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Speaker 13: to try and serve the public? Are you going to
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Speaker 13: try and serve your own interests. We've seen NHS stories
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Speaker 13: come out where you know, you've had you know, NHS
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Speaker 13: watchdogs say or advise medics to to talk about women
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Speaker 13: and their birthing canals and not their wombs right, and
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Speaker 13: using all this language that actually distorts reality in the
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Speaker 13: service of God knows what I mean.
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Speaker 7: I kid you not.
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Speaker 13: In the provision of this, of this, this recommendation from Nice,
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Speaker 13: they said, it's all about political correctness. It's about being
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Speaker 13: decent and polite. What is impolite about calling someone who's
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Speaker 13: a obest?
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Speaker 7: It just blows my mind.
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Speaker 1: Ex fact that they're too scared to say they woke. Now,
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Speaker 1: I like the way it's an insult. No, would just
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Speaker 1: be polite.
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Speaker 6: I like that.
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Speaker 1: Oh, don't kidness. By the way, someone I think we
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Speaker 1: can be frank about it might be a little obese
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Speaker 1: as well, Prince Andrew, he keeps embarrassing the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got m I five, you know in top
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Speaker 1: spy agency, documents from m I five released showing that
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Speaker 1: China regarded him as a valuable communication channel and said
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Speaker 1: that he was too close to her suspect, the Chinese
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Speaker 1: spy who was considered national security risk. What is it
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Speaker 1: with this clown? If I may not be polite for
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Speaker 1: a change.
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Speaker 13: You know, I don't actually completely I'm not unsympathetic to
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Speaker 13: all Republicans in the UK, even though many of them
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Speaker 13: are misguided, because when you look at people like Prince Andrew,
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Speaker 13: it actually makes the case for not having someone with
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Speaker 13: this this privilege and clearly disassociation from reality being part
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Speaker 13: of the head of state of this country or the
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Speaker 13: family that is the head of state of this country.
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Speaker 7: I kid you not.
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Speaker 13: This person that has been associated with Prince Andrew, we
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Speaker 13: can now reveal to it is called chrisy.
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Speaker 7: Yang was banned from the UK on advice from m
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Speaker 7: I five by.
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Speaker 13: Then Home Secretary swell A Brava men and at that
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Speaker 13: point his association or his deep ties with the Chinese
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Speaker 13: government and the activities in the UK couldn't be disputed.
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Speaker 13: And that is when Prince Andrew's name came into the fold,
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Speaker 13: because they realized that this man had a lot of
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Speaker 13: correspondence with Prince Andrew. He was trying to help him
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Speaker 13: with his Palace Communication charity, which basically helps to have had, yes,
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Speaker 13: exactly have links with the royal family and in a
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Speaker 13: bit to try and overturn I think about three billion
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Speaker 13: dollars worth of investment into stopping China from getting sensitive
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Speaker 13: technology and information. But he's what you call a useful idiot,
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Speaker 13: because at no point did he think this might be
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Speaker 13: a national security threat.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I kid you not. The Chinese ambassador at
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Speaker 7: the time had the Duke's lumber in his phone as TD,
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Speaker 7: which stood for the Duke, and he was seen as
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Speaker 7: a useful.
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Speaker 13: Link to the palace to try and advance China's nefarious
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Speaker 13: goals here in the UK.
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Speaker 7: And so now the question is what does King Charles
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Speaker 7: do about his brother after links to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 13: And all his sort of insensitive, tone deaf activities and
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Speaker 13: now this, and he's still refusing to leave his giant,
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Speaker 13: giant palace because apparently he doesn't want to downsize because
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Speaker 13: he's too good for that.
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Speaker 7: So it's just a headache for the royal family and
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Speaker 7: for the King in particular.
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Speaker 1: Well there you go, Esther. The NHS is not going
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Speaker 1: to look at us very kindly about the way we're
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Speaker 1: throwing out things like useful. One particularly interesting thing about
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump today I've got to raise with you is
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Speaker 1: that he he showed that if you, as a prime minister,
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Speaker 1: suck up hard enough to Donald Trump, he is going
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Speaker 1: to forgive how incompetent and left wing you are, which
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Speaker 1: is lucky for your Prime minister, key is Starma ever Listen,
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister starm.
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Speaker 3: Has been very nice. We've had a couple of meetings,
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Speaker 3: we've had no Meri's phone call. We're getting along very well.
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Speaker 3: We'll see whether or not we can balance out our budget.
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Speaker 1: What's your advice to our prime minister listening to that?
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Speaker 7: Play nice with the Donald because he means business.
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Speaker 13: And I can tell you this exclusively that the Palace
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Speaker 13: has played a significant role in trying to mediate this
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Speaker 13: communication between the Prime Minister and Donald Trump, and they've
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Speaker 13: done a lot of smoothing of relations because he is
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Speaker 13: not someone to be toyed with.
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Speaker 7: And unfortunately, the Labor Party has.
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Speaker 13: Had many instances where they've had leading politicians, like members
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Speaker 13: of the cabinets, saying horrible things about the now president
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Speaker 13: of the United States.
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Speaker 7: And now that Trump is leveraging tariffs and countries, they
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Speaker 7: know that he is not playing around.
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Speaker 13: So I assume the fondness of President Trump's fudness with
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Speaker 13: the royal family has really really helped kid star in
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Speaker 13: this regard.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, you make a good point there, but let's
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Speaker 1: not forget that your promise did what else didn't flew
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Speaker 1: over to America to go and talk to Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: as didn't bother and well look at the results yours
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Speaker 1: Scott Yester Crack, thank you so much for your time,
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Speaker 1: really appreciated. That's it for me, Coming up next Sherry
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Speaker 1: Markson good Night,