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Hour Two | Kim Mulkey Joins OTB! LSU Women's Basketball Season Preview & Dr. Etheredge · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Off The Bench. Ooh, you're scary. We're bringing
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  Speaker 1: you the spookiest sports talk in town. With Jacob Hester.
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  Speaker 2: And Matt Lynn.
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  Speaker 1: Terrifying and terrible. Live from the.
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  Speaker 3: Haunted Raising Cane's.
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  Speaker 1: Studio, here's Jacob Hester and Matt Lynn.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back in OTB here on this Wednesday morning. Jake Flynn,
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  Speaker 4: Alondra Tate, Wolfpack is here. And of course, it's Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: at eight.
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  Speaker 2: So Dr. Stephen Etheridge is here with us as well. Doc,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, brother? How we doing? We're doing great.
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  Speaker 2: We got a couple of things in the chat for you.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: This is from our guy, Dane. said he needs a
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  Speaker 4: recommendation from Dr. Etheridge on a surgeon for Tommy John
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  Speaker 4: surgery for his grandson. He injured his arm pitching in
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  Speaker 4: the All-Star game in Florida this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Thomas John.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's never a good thing. Man, we got a
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  Speaker 5: couple guys that do a really good job with that.
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  Speaker 3: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Field does a great job with it.
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  Speaker 3: Dr. Fury.
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  Speaker 5: They're probably the ones that work mostly with our throwers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I'd say either one of them, Matt Fury, Mark Field,
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  Speaker 5: both great guys, both great surgeons. I would happily, if needed,
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  Speaker 5: let them take care of my family.
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  Speaker 2: So everybody's got their specialties. I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 2: asked you, what's your specialty? What do you figure? When
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  Speaker 2: people come here, you've got to go see Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Etheridge.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. So I'm kind of all over the map.
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  Speaker 2: You do a little bit of everything. I do, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm kind of more of a generalist when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to a lot of stuff. I guess if there's
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  Speaker 5: one thing that I do that's a little bit unique
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  Speaker 5: to the group, I do a lot of our biologic stuff,
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  Speaker 5: the ERPs and the stem cells. I'm kind of our
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  Speaker 5: guy for that and some of the specialized injections. We're
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  Speaker 5: doing ultrasound guidance and things that are a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more niche in that world. Uh, but if, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if you've got to hurt pretty much anything, I I'll
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  Speaker 5: do my best to get you to.
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  Speaker 2: Say like when people are like, Hey, who's your doctor?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Dr. Yeah. For what? Oh, for everything.
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  Speaker 2: Everything. And then like I said, I've, I've got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good partners.
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  Speaker 5: So if it is something that needs a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more specialization, like a Tommy John injury, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if it's not something I can fix, we'll, we'll definitely
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  Speaker 5: get you the right guys.
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  Speaker 6: Um, Doug, do you think outside looking in, do you
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  Speaker 6: think the new Orleans saints are hurt? Do you think
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  Speaker 6: they're injured, just in general?
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  Speaker 5: There's something wrong. You know, I think, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if it's pride that injured or if it's... Like if
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  Speaker 5: the Saints was a person, what do you think they injured?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if we're allowed to say on the radio.
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  Speaker 6: Do they have a concussion? Do they have a torn ACL?
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  Speaker 6: Did their leg fall off?
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  Speaker 5: It seems more of like an identity crisis.
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  Speaker 3: Identity crisis, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there's something there.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, every time you feel like there's
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  Speaker 5: a glimmer of hope, then they just kind of, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right. Kick you in the nether regions.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Well, flaky.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we got another question from Doc.
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  Speaker 4: Ask Doc, does turning my head before coughing actually do anything,
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  Speaker 4: or is it a courtesy thing?
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  Speaker 3: It's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you had somebody right next to you who
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  Speaker 2: just did that. Courtesy. It's courtesy.
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  Speaker 3: It's courtesy.
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  Speaker 5: We don't want to get coughed on. It's actually not
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  Speaker 5: about the procedure there, but it's, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to get coughed on a hundred times when we're
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  Speaker 5: doing a bunch of physicals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't really do anything.
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  Speaker 3: You tried.
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  Speaker 2: It's courtesy. When you just had a hack there before
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  Speaker 2: we came on air. I appreciate the courtesy.
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: That was a good question. That was a legit question.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. That's what he's asking for. Bye week
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  Speaker 2: for LSU this week.
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  Speaker 4: And so, got a couple guys that are trying to
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  Speaker 4: get back on the field. A couple guys that could
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  Speaker 4: take some time off because we're at that point in
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  Speaker 4: the season and all of us know it.
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  Speaker 2: We've been there.
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  Speaker 4: Before where you're beat up. No matter if you're healthy,
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  Speaker 4: you're still beat up a little bit. So, Is every
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  Speaker 4: bye week, since you've been in this field, is it
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  Speaker 4: the same? Do you try to follow the same thing?
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  Speaker 4: Is every team going to be different based off the
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  Speaker 4: injuries that you have? How are bye weeks kind of–
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  Speaker 4: like what's the game plan and how many different people
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  Speaker 4: put the game plan together for a bye week as
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  Speaker 4: far as health?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess it starts– there's a lot of similarities,
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  Speaker 5: but it starts with your staff. Every coach is going
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  Speaker 5: to be different. The way that Coach Miles did it
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  Speaker 5: was different than the way that O did it. It
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  Speaker 5: was different than the way that Kelly, different than the
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  Speaker 5: way that Lane's doing it. So they're similar, but you're
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  Speaker 5: going to have a slightly different schedule. And once we
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  Speaker 5: kind of know the schedule, we have kind of a
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  Speaker 5: template to work with. And then obviously there's going to
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  Speaker 5: be some specifics to the year, to the season, to
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  Speaker 5: the guys. What are the injuries we're dealing with? And
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  Speaker 5: that's going to play into it. We try to kind
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  Speaker 5: of marry the two, the schedule, what the coaches need
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  Speaker 5: to get done, what they're trying to have done with
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  Speaker 5: what we need to get done. And so it is
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  Speaker 5: kind of a conjoined effort where we're all going to
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  Speaker 5: talk about it. We use the term shared decision-making a
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  Speaker 5: lot for a lot of different reasons. and and that's
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  Speaker 5: really what goes into it you know we're gonna we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna say okay this guy's got this injury and look
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  Speaker 5: it can be anything from you know you've got a
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  Speaker 5: guy that you've been putting off doing sometime even surgical
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  Speaker 5: procedure and say hey let's go do that and we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna do it as soon as our last game on
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  Speaker 5: saturday to like hey let's do you know we mentioned
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  Speaker 5: a minute ago these injections of these biologics maybe but
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  Speaker 5: sometimes with some of those you want to got to
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  Speaker 5: rest for two or three days after the shot you
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  Speaker 5: know it's not always something where we say hey let's
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  Speaker 5: do this or or just basically just rest a guy
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  Speaker 5: you know this is a guy that yeah, the reps
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  Speaker 5: might be helpful, but he needs the rest more than
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  Speaker 5: the reps.
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  Speaker 2: So it's, it's a little bit of all that.
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  Speaker 6: Doc, what's one thing that you've seen and you've been
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  Speaker 6: around like athletic trainers and different treatment variations besides like
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  Speaker 6: the biologicals, like the stem cells besides that, like what,
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  Speaker 6: like for, let's just say a soft tissue hamstring, like
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  Speaker 6: what's one type of treatment that you've been like, man,
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  Speaker 6: that really does. Cause I know there's a lot of,
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  Speaker 6: The theory is, like, a lot of little things add
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  Speaker 6: up to a big thing, right? But, like, is there
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  Speaker 6: one thing that you're just like, man, this is one
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  Speaker 6: thing that's, like, we have to do it because I've
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  Speaker 6: seen it work time and time again?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, well, for me, one of the first ones,
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  Speaker 5: which maybe is not new anymore, but, you know, when
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  Speaker 5: I was coming out of my fellowship, you know, I'd
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  Speaker 5: never seen dry needling, for example, until I was in
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  Speaker 5: my fellowship year. And different places in the country, that place,
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  Speaker 5: some places weren't doing it and some places were. And
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  Speaker 5: for me, that was a game changer. to do some
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  Speaker 5: of the work on some of the soft tissue. Now
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  Speaker 5: it's become more commonplace. I mean, this is, this has
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  Speaker 5: been a while now. Um, but that was one that
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  Speaker 5: for me was an eye opener, you know, currently, you know, we're,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we're getting pretty good results with some
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  Speaker 5: of the red light treatments.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's anecdotal. Maybe it's in my head.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that I'd say it's a complete game changer,
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  Speaker 5: but that's kind of one of the newer things. And
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  Speaker 5: I do think something to it, you know, I can't,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you'll hear all these different, you know, it
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  Speaker 5: helps us sell your level to help with all these
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  Speaker 5: different things. And it tells you all this, which I
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  Speaker 5: don't know how much of that's accurate and how much
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  Speaker 5: of that is what it does. Um, but it does
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  Speaker 5: seem to help. Um, you know, and then like, like
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned, but I mean, yeah, a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: injections that we're doing, you know, these are, some of
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  Speaker 5: these are things we weren't doing when I first started and,
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  Speaker 5: and they, they've definitely helped a lot with some of
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  Speaker 5: the issues as well.
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  Speaker 6: Like in the training room, it's a lot of, you know,
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  Speaker 6: there's STEM, there's Hiva math, there's the red light, like
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  Speaker 6: all of that stuff. And I, and I truly believe
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  Speaker 6: like a lot of that, all that stuff helps with
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  Speaker 6: the blood flow and helps like get your body's response
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  Speaker 6: to healing, like get that going and kickstarted.
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  Speaker 3: Um, but it's a slow process.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's like, it's not like I'm going to,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to fix you right now, but it all, like, again,
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  Speaker 6: it's a lot of little things, but to your point,
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  Speaker 6: when I, when I discovered dry needling, when I was playing,
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  Speaker 6: it was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 3: Like, like, where was this my whole life? It's, it's
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  Speaker 3: a cheat code, right?
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  Speaker 6: It's like, to me, it's like, it's like 10 massage sessions,
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  Speaker 6: like wrapped up.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I mentioned, you know, there's a, there's a
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  Speaker 5: newer procedure. That's kind of a newer version of that,
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  Speaker 5: that we do this called hydro dissections where we'll, especially
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  Speaker 5: for hamstrings, using an ultrasound. And this is one of
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  Speaker 5: those kind of specialized injections that I was talking about
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  Speaker 5: that we do. And I'll find where the defect is
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  Speaker 5: in the hamstring, where the scar tissue is, where the
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  Speaker 5: inflammation is, and you can actually see it. And then
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  Speaker 5: you go in with a needle and you kind of
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  Speaker 5: break it up with a little bit of lidocaine and saline.
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  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like dry needling, but you can
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  Speaker 5: actually see what you're looking at, hit the spot, you
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  Speaker 5: do a little bit more. And I will say that's
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  Speaker 5: something for some of these soft tissues that's been pretty
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  Speaker 5: helpful in some.
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  Speaker 2: Scenarios as well.
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  Speaker 4: If you do the PRP, which I think is a
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  Speaker 4: big one too, that's not something that was available to us.
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  Speaker 2: It never worked for me. It did for me. So
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  Speaker 2: if you do that, how long until that can maybe
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  Speaker 2: take effect? So most times PRP, you're looking at still
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  Speaker 2: about two to six weeks now.
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  Speaker 4: So that would be something like Sunday morning after last game.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to hit it early. Let's get it in.
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  Speaker 5: And even if it may not help you for this
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  Speaker 5: next Friday, Saturday, Sunday, maybe– you're, you're at least getting
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  Speaker 5: it in now. And then maybe we'll see that benefit
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  Speaker 5: in two or three weeks. So, so the PRP that's,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and, and, and again, guys have had mixed results.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it works.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've had better results doing some of the
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  Speaker 5: newer ones, the stem cells and things like that, but,
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  Speaker 5: but they do tend to work a little quicker, but
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  Speaker 5: I think they all have a place, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, where did you, what kind of injury? Cause I,
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  Speaker 3: cause I got knee. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Cause I use mine for elbow tendonitis and it did not,
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  Speaker 6: it didn't do anything. Then I heard at that time,
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  Speaker 6: like there wasn't a lot of successful results for people with.
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  Speaker 3: Like elbow stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, I know in some parts it's, it
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be doc if like Matt and I were taking
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  Speaker 4: the same protein powder and it would help me and
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  Speaker 4: hurt him or help him hurt me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's going to answer. It's hard to predict.
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  Speaker 5: You know, that's, that's one thing with, you know, I've,
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  Speaker 5: I've been doing some version of these biologic injections now
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  Speaker 5: for almost 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: Started doing PRP almost 20 years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I've been doing stem cells, A2M cells, other ones for
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  Speaker 5: about 10 years. So I've got a good bit of
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  Speaker 5: experience over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Literally thousands of injections now. And I still can't tell
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  Speaker 5: you you're going to be the one you're not. You know, it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's there, there's some conditions where I say, look, man,
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  Speaker 5: your results aren't going to be likely. And others, I say, look,
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  Speaker 5: this is a good condition to use this or whatever treatment.
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  Speaker 5: But even then, that's one thing I have to tell
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  Speaker 5: all my patients. I'm like, look, it's, it's still a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a roll of the dice. You know, it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's some guys respond well, some don't. And maybe one
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  Speaker 5: day we'll have a test that tells me, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you're the guy, but it's, it's, it's kind of a,
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you kind of go
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  Speaker 5: into it knowing it might not work, but the result's
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  Speaker 5: usually pretty good. Now, I will say PRP is a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more toss-up than, say, some of the other ones.
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  Speaker 5: But even at– I've had patients that have outstanding results.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, chronic hamstrings in some of my older patients,
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  Speaker 5: even patients who are quite older, who's like, man, I've
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  Speaker 5: been dealing with this for five years. We can sometimes
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  Speaker 5: get it to go away. Yeah, but it's just– but
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  Speaker 5: you just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've got a guy down the road with a hamstring.
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  Speaker 3: I know a guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 6: Doc, I might ask you this at least once a month.
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  Speaker 6: Any updates on preventative surgeries for athletes? Any, like, metal
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  Speaker 6: rods in our legs? Metal shields?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm with you that I want to see
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  Speaker 5: this world. I think we agree on this.
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  Speaker 2: Super soldiers. Super soldiers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm down.
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  Speaker 2: I'm down.
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  Speaker 5: You know, look, if you want to come in, we
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  Speaker 5: can maybe get a guinea pig on you if you
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  Speaker 5: want to try.
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  Speaker 2: Try some stuff. Again, no promises.
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  Speaker 6: If I'm a GM in the NFL and I got
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  Speaker 6: a guy with a couple metal plates, that's pretty indestructible.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, ask doc, how many times have Flynn and Hester
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  Speaker 4: asked you about guardian caps? It's over five times a
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  Speaker 4: symptom of CTE.
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  Speaker 7: Oof.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, but I, you know, maybe, maybe I got
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  Speaker 5: CT cause I don't remember how many times.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, but I think it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a joke yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm pretty sure I've asked doc about that like
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  Speaker 4: three times before.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, we didn't wear, we didn't wear the
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  Speaker 2: guardian cap. No, you know, they didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, and who knows, you know, it's, it's, there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of conflicting data on those things.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So they might help, but they for sure look bad.
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  Speaker 2: They look terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. They do.
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  Speaker 2: They look awful.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so we were talking about this yesterday. That's why
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  Speaker 6: we started talking about guardian caps yesterday. Because, okay, if
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  Speaker 6: you're a receiver, a returner, defensive back, somebody where you're
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  Speaker 6: going to make a lot of contact, two guys running
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  Speaker 6: full speed.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. And you got maybe a history of concussion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: why not? Let's just throw some stuff in there. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it works. Maybe it doesn't. But it doesn't matter. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to take the risk. If it works, great.
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  Speaker 6: Um interior linemen how many head injuries do you see
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  Speaker 6: in interior linemen play so in the trenches defensive tackles
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  Speaker 6: offensive centers guards things like that because i'm seeing a
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  Speaker 6: lot of defensive linemen wear these things and i don't
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  Speaker 6: understand it because like they're not they're impacting their head
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  Speaker 6: every single play and i get that and i don't
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  Speaker 6: want to belittle that but the high speed impact I
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  Speaker 6: believe is like what kind of causes a lot more
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  Speaker 6: concussions or whiplash with, they're not getting a lot of
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  Speaker 6: whiplash either.
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  Speaker 5: Well, so, so one, the whiplash to kind of, I
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  Speaker 5: got to kind of go backwards. It's not going to
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  Speaker 5: help you with that. And, and the rotation, the whiplash,
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  Speaker 5: the jerky motions. And sometimes those are the worst concussions
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  Speaker 5: to see the guy, especially the rotational effects when these
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  Speaker 5: guys kind of get hit from the side, it's not
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  Speaker 5: as much.
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  Speaker 2: The impact of the head, but that sudden rotation that
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  Speaker 2: kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Causes the jarring part.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, so I mean, obviously it's not going to help
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  Speaker 2: you with that.
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  Speaker 5: Um, so we know that much, uh, You know, an
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: interesting thing though, with some of the interior linemen, you're right.
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: They don't give me the heavy impacts. You're not going
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: to see as many of these bad concussions, but the
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: caveat to that is there's a lot of people that
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: do a lot of the CT data, the research that
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: say it's more the repetitive blows, even maybe the subconcussive blows.
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: And so that's why part of the reasons we've changed
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: some of the practice changes. And you've talked about boxers,
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: the dementia pusillistica, where basically that was the first realization
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: of CT was in boxers. And they're getting hit in
• 13:07
  Speaker 5: the head all the time. Now they're getting some pretty
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: big hits too. So it's a combination of all the above.
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: And so what's worse having two or three really bad
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: hits the head that cause a bad concussion or multiple
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: sub concussive hits that maybe accumulate. And there's, there's mixed,
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: mixed opinions on that as well. So to answer your question,
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: What if you have to be honest with you?
• 13:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: How much of this research is doing as being done
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: by guardian cap company?
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not, they did a lot with the NFL early on,
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: but it's part of the problems of guarding cap is
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: the ones that are using NFL are not the exact
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: same version that the ones most people are getting in
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: the high school and lower levels.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: So it's hard to even compare one to the other.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: The study is going to be an off-brand version. Yeah.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: And then there's maybe not the same.
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: And then, and then the study that they did that
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: the one that did show good results was a very
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: limited study that was done sort of in conjunction with
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: the NFL and, Look, I think part of it is
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: they want to show they are trying to do something,
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: which they are. I mean, I don't want to downplay it.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: We're all trying to– look, it's a contact sport. You're
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: going to hit heads. You're going to have injuries. You're
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: going to– that's part of it. I don't know that
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: we can remove that.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or it's going to be an ugly game if
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're already penalizing running backs 15 yards for
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: unnecessary roughness.
• 14:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Because they ran through a guy.
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't– look, maybe it's not a popular
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: opinion of some of my peers. I don't love all
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: the rule changes. I think– Some of them are good.
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: We need to discourage certain things. I definitely like some
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: of the practice changes. You've still got to be physical,
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: but let's not just constantly just go head-to-head. Let's let
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: the brain have a chance to chill out. But I
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: also think, look, this is a great game, and part
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: of what makes it great is the battle, the grit,
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: the intensity.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Imposing your will.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: There's a reason why you watch these clips and what
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: you want to watch, these big hits. Look, that's what
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: we want to see. So how do we kind of
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: balance that? I don't know that I have the right answer.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Asking. Doc, do the players get bone density scans?
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: We do.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: We do for actually all of our athletes.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: We do bone density as part of our, and it's
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: more with the dieticians than with us. They're looking, you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: the body composition. They're not as much looking at the
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: bone density as part of it, obviously. And if somebody
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: did come back with really highly abnormal results, then we're
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: going to question why. Most of these guys and girls,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: they're young. They're not going to have a lot of
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: bone density issues. Now, occasionally if we had one, then
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: we would do something with that. They're actually using it
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: more for body composition, you know, looking at all that,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: where can I help you to, to optimize your, your
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: training and your health and everything.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: How do you, where's your stance on blue light? Blue light. Well,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: do I know that I wear blue light glasses?
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: You know, there, there's, this feels like you trying to like,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: wear them but you want doc to take.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Them i'm wearing them off well i do.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Like you want doc to jump on a grenade here
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: so you can wear.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Led lighting and all these new lighting systems we filtered
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: out a lot of the red lights and that's part
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: of why there's all this red light treatment is they're
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: saying maybe it's more important to be fair there's some
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: studies especially with your sleep patterns and blue light you
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: should probably have less blue lighting at night you should
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: probably kind of dim the lights you should probably use
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: more of the other colored lightings and but on the
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: other hand you know that's still kind.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Of early give headaches probably probably.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: You know Too much of it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: I do wear blue-eyed glasses at the office. I don't
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: know if it helps. Probably doesn't.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Can't hurt.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of things don't hurt.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: So much of what's out there, you can get a
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: great sales pitch for a lot of things in medicine,
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: and we're seeing it every day, especially my feeds, because
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I look at a lot of stuff, so I see
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: all this stuff, and I'm like, most of it's probably BS,
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: but don't spend a fortune on whatever it is, and
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: if it seems reasonable, why not?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: The more you spend, the more you believe, though, Doc.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: There's some truth to that, too. I can't ask this
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: question to Doc. Why?
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Because he's not allowed to answer it. But, Steven, well
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: done for trying. Doc, don't answer a word of this.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: All right. I have a friend named Rhett Reeks.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: And he broke his leg playing pickup football, watching the
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss game.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We have another pickup game November the 7th.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Can he play?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I will say it's a great effort, and I got it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Respect the name Rhett.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I understand where he was going with it, but with
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: my Rhett at home, that's kind of funny.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Well done, Steven. I hope your friend's doing well.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: As much as you would love to play ball with
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: your friend, I'd love to see him out there playing ball.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I can promise you that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Rhett Reeks is Pretty good player. I hope
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: he's all right. Sounds like a strong name to play ball.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I hope he's all right.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: All right, Doc, we appreciate you every single week. Thanks
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: for hopping on with us. Always a pleasure. All right,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: we will step away.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Don't forget, we've got Coach Kim Mulkey joining us in
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: about 10 minutes from now.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: We'll have it right here for you on OTB.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Can y'all really feel me?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Feel us.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, we feel you.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Feel us.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, we feel you. Say what? Here we go.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Can y'all really feel me?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Off the Bench. Wednesday's show is brought
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to you by Poncho. Welcome back to Off the Bench.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB here live from the
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Raising Cane Studio. We do want to remind you that
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: we will not be at Rouse's this Friday. It is
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: a bye week for us at Rouse's as well, but
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: don't worry. The next week for Bama Game Week, we
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: absolutely will be at Rouse's on Burbank and Lee. But
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that does not mean that you can't go to your
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: local Rouse's and save. Because weekly specials for your Rouse's
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  Speaker 2: Find a location that's convenient for you.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Then you can be able to pick up those tailgating packages.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: You can be able to pick up holidays coming up.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: They got everything you need there. You know they're going
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: to have local as well. Today, right now, breakfast bar,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: sushi bar, lunch bar, salad bar, everything, right there at
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: your local Rouse's. Go to rouses.com. How are you feeling
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: about Coach Mulkey coming on?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I feel great. Nervous?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: It doesn't help that he asked us about a question,
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: and I was like, I.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Didn't love it either, but as soon as you said it,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: he knew. He knew if he asked you that you
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: would give him the truth, and you did, and so
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: he's like, okay.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: She's so wise. I wanted to ask her. I just said.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: That's what people always say about me.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Just said that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: So I got my answer, though.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: So don't ask it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: But.
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: Ask her about social media. Okay. Went well last time.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Walked out of the park.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not really sure what you're asking me, but.
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: That's what happens when Jake leaves.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I respect the fact that you're asking me something.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Let me try to answer this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: There's words coming out.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: They're just not formulating a sentence.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not great words. They're there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You think, like, somebody was next to her, like an
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: assistant or whatever, and maybe he was on speakerphone, and.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: He asked her, and she was like, What is this?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: In my head, I like to think that that is
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: how it plays out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: When is Rouse's? There's no Rouse's this week, but next week.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I just said that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: I know, but somebody said, when is Rouse's?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Next week we'll be there. But you can go to
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Rouse's today. You don't need us to go there.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got my high there. You can go get hydrated.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's delicious.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: It's nutritious.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Makes you feel amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Facts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I speak.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: That's all I speak.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I finally got Dr. Etheridge to come
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: over here and pick out a poncho.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, good for you.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: Which one was it?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: He wanted to get the LSU one. Yeah. He got
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the purple.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Smart.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Because literally when I say that man helps me and
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Flynn out, and the Flynn and Hester families as much
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: as anybody, it's like, you're going to come over here
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: and you're going to pick out a poncho.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: We're getting it for you.
• 21:35
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  Speaker 3: They probably don't get any like deals.
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• 21:46
  Speaker 4: So actually they do. I am sitting here with coach Mulkey,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: you know, going to come on today and we're going
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: to make an effort to, because if you remember like
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: back in the day when Will Wade was here the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: first time, like he came on OTB every single week,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: that effort is being.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Made as well.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: And so hopefully, you know, because we have both basketball coaches,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: we have softball, we have baseball, gymnastics. We love to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: have coaches on, so hopefully we can get Will to
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: come back on weekly as well.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Going to put that ask out there this week.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: They're going to start their season coming up on November
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the 3rd against LSU New Orleans, the artist formerly known
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: as UNO. And then they've got Texas Southern, they've got
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech, and then they've got a trip to number 15, Gonzaga,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: coming up on November the 14th. That's going to be
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: a great test for LSU going across the country in
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: a place that's very difficult to play in. So looking
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: forward to being back though, even if it's not sweet 16,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: just to be able to go back into the PMAC
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and feel like every time you go in there, your
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: team has a chance.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like, that's what I'm like.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I just go in there and feel like your team
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: actually has an opportunity to play well.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I want a line at the concession stand. I don't
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: want to have to walk up and they'd be like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: you're back for your third time. Like, I don't want
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: to know that people selling popcorn. Yeah. I want there
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to be so many people that they don't recognize me.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Hadn't been that way in a couple years.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point, actually. I'm right there with you.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: And that is the hope. We know Coach Mulkey's team
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: is going to do their thing. We have seen it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: It's played out too many times. We know there's going
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: to be great crowds there. I want great crowds at
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the PMAC. I want good basketball at the PMAC, no
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: matter who's playing in the building. And I think we're
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: going to get that as well. But speaking of Coach Mulkey,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: let's go ahead and take a break. because we are
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: going to start our weekly conversations with Coach Kim Mulkey
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: when we come back here on OTB.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that is absolutely false. It might be true for
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  Speaker 6: a lot of other local and small banks, but not
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  Speaker 8: Say my name, say my name If no one is
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  Speaker 8: around you Say baby, I love you If you ain't
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  Speaker 8: Say my name, say my name If no one is
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  Speaker 8: around you Say baby, I love you If you ain't
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  Speaker 8: running game Say my name, say my name You acting
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  Speaker 8: kinda shady Ain't calling me baby Welcome back to Off
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  Speaker 8: the Bench. Wednesday's show is brought to you by Poncho.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you say the.
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  Speaker 2: Things that you said to me yesterday?
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  Speaker 6: All right, welcome back here.
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  Speaker 3: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 6: Before we get into the next segment, before we get
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  Speaker 6: Coach Mulkey on the line, I want to tell you
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: The return of our favorite guest cannot wait for this.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: We look forward to it every single year, and we're
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: going to do it every single week. The head coach
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: for the LSU basketball team, Coach Kim Mulkey, joins us
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: here on OTB.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Coach, what's going on? How are you doing?
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Good morning. Doing great. How are you guys?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Doing fantastic. Good to hear your voice. Glad to have
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you back on.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: But before we get to any of the basketball stuff,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and the season's already started, we know that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: How have you been? How's life? How have things been
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: going for you?
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: Well, I love my summers, and just had a great summer.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: Of course, travel and see the grandkids and go and
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: see some WNBA games with former players. And here we
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: are ready or not football season. You got to start
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: playing a little basketball. We played an exhibition against North
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Texas out of Dallas, a little small NAI school, young, uh,
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: the coach had been asking me for years, you know, exhibitions,
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: I just want to help people. We pay them to come,
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: and that's a big part of their budget, and those
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: young ladies get to say they played at the PMAC
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: and played against LSU. So then we'll play another one Thursday,
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Loyola out of New Orleans, play those guys, and then
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: we start up for real Monday against Southeastern.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Coach, you mentioned a couple of exhibition games, and in
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: college football, we don't have that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: We don't have it like we had in the NFL.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: We had preseason games, but you get a chance to
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: have some exhibitions today You're playing two. Does that feel
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: like a good number just to get out there against
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: somebody else regardless of the opponent, just somebody that's not
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: in purple and gold because during training camp, you get
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: tired of seeing the same face over and over again.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Does that feel like a good number of two exhibition
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: games to get ready for the season?
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: Well, you always want to play against other people. We're
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: limited on how many we can do, but here's the
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: thing a lot of people are doing. they're doing the
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: closed scrimmages versus the exhibition.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: I've never done the closed scrimmages. I want our fans
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: to meet our kids. I want them to see who's
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: out there because especially now with transfer portal, you never
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: know from one year to the next, who's going to
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: be on your team. So the exhibitions are exactly what
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: they say. You're just basically out there exhibiting your new
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: team and, You play teams that can benefit by getting
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: money from LSU and say that they got to play
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: against LSU. And I don't, of course, look at the score.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: We do keep score, but I don't know that I'll
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: ever go to a closed scrimmage. because I want our
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: fans to start coming out.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: Coach, let's take a look at this 2026-2017 team. You
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: preseason ranked in the top ten, and we get it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: We're former players, and I know you don't look at rankings.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: How do you rank all the preseason stuff? But it
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: is an acknowledgment, at least, of returners and the work
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: that you and your coaching staff were able to do
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: in the offseason. So it is an acknowledgment of that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Talk about kind of the pieces that you are returning
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: and some of the key pieces that you brought into
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: this team.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: You know, every year you're going to lose players, guys.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: It's just the nature of the beast now. And so
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: you go get in the portal, and we brought in–
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: new players that go along with the returning players. Let's
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: start with Kayla Williams. This will be her fourth year
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: at LSU, Bossier City Parkway High School product, and she's
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: on a lot of preseason All-American lists, and she's going
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: to be a top draft pick. So she's one of
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: our captains, and let's talk about Malaysia Full Wally. She's
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: going into her second season with us. And Quick as Lightning.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: So those two people know about, talk about. She should
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: also probably be a top draft pick, but I think
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: it depends on what kind of year she has. Jada
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Williams would be our point guard. She is a young
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: lady that played on a lot of summer teams with Michaela,
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: with USA Basketball. She was a McDonald's All-American. She'll be
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: a crowd favorite because she just has that bubbly personality.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: And from there, you'll go to Zee Johnson. Zee and
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Jada and Michaela are three captains, and Zee had an
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: unbelievable freshman year. She's playing both inside and outside for
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: us this year. She was on the all-freshman SEC team
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: and just really, really such a great team player. Grace
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: Knox has had an unbelievable preseason season. camp, and she'll
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: be a sophomore, and she's our 6'2 post player inside,
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: and she's really, really worked on her game where she
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: can take you outside now and shoot the three ball
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: and do some things that will be very valuable for
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: her being really an undersized post player. We brought in
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: Chloe Larry. Chloe was at Tennessee Tech, played high school
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: ball with Michaela Williams, will be a left-handed point guard
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: for us, and just has to get used to the
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: speed and quickness at this level. And she'll have to,
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: you know, every day, just understand that, wow, this is physical.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: And then Lord, I hope I don't forget everybody else.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: Let's start with Layla Reynolds. I'm doing this off the
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: top of my head. Layla Reynolds played at Florida last year,
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: six foot perimeter player. That's just kind of, I call
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: her kind of wiry. She's long and she's got, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: ability to be a really good defensive player, but she
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: also has a mid-range game and very, very quick. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: then from there, you've got to talk a little bit
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: about old Meg. Meg's back for us. Meg is from
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: the Maryland area, and she's kind of a bulky role-player
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: for us that comes in and does what we need
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: her to do. We signed two international kids, Anna Maneva.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Anna is a 6'5 young lady, 17 years old from Russia.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: And we got to get her on the floor. She's
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: had some nagging little quad injuries. So hopefully we'll have
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: her on the floor today. And then you've got Noah Morrow.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: She's our oldest international player. She's only 21. But when
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I say older, you got to remember, we're going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: be extremely young inside, freshmen, sophomores. So Noah is a
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: 6'3 young lady that plays on the Spain's national team,
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: and she can take you outside and shoot the three ball.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: So let me see. Who else am I missing? Y'all
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: got my prize.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I think you nailed it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Coach, I think you got everybody. I think you did
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: it off the top of your head. It's impressive.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Well, we have 11 solid players, and they've been a
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: joy to coach. And we've just got to keep them
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: all healthy. Right now we've been playing with nine, so.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: We'll get out there and we'll compete. Our schedule is
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: such that it's probably too hard for this team right now,
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: but it was done a long time ago when you
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: didn't know who you were going to have. So we've
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: got UConn and Nashville right before Christmas. We'll play NC
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: State and Villanova. We have to go to North Carolina
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: for the ACC Challenge. We'll play Belmont. There's a lot
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: of good teams that will be on this schedule.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Catching up with Coach Kim Mulkey here on OTB.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: And Coach, I mean, you know, the roster right there
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: that you laid out, a lot of really, really good players.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But I want to ask you about leadership. So when
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you have leaders that are old veteran leaders and they
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: move on, like Flage goes to the WNBA, not the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: only leader that you lose, but she goes on to
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the WNBA. She played here so long and immediately as
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: soon as she got here, she starts playing. So when
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you lose a leader like that, In your coaching style,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: do you challenge players to be more of a leader?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Do you try to allow it to happen organically? How
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: do you go about approaching to make sure that you
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: have the right leadership on your team?
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: Well, I think leadership surfaces within that particular team. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: don't try to make them into something that they're not.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: You've got those leaders out there, guys that are going
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: to lead by example. They're going to be the ones
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: that bust their rear every day. They're going to be
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: the first ones in practice, the last ones to lead.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: They're going to give you everything they have during the
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: course of a practice. Then you've got the leaders that
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: are more vocal. And one is not any more important
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: than the other. I just need people to want to lead.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: I find this generation, they don't want to lead. They
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: want to be your best friend. And leaders aren't always
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: going to be your best friend. They're going to say
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: things to you during the course of a game or
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: practice that might be pretty intense. And you can't take
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: it personally. And so I tell those people who take
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: it personal, see, you're a follower, but yet you don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: really want to follow either. So it's tough. I think
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: leaders in the past, man, you wanted to be a captain.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: You wanted to be a leader because that was kind
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: of a reward for being recognized. And now I'm not
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: sure kids care if they're captains or not, but it's
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: a pretty big deal because You're the voice in that
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: locker room. You're the voice to that team when the
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: coaches aren't around. So I think we've got a quiet team.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: I challenge them every day. Their personalities are quiet, but
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: when you play this game, guys, you can't play it quiet.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: You have to play it with enthusiasm. You've got to
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: talk defensively. So that has been a really big thing
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: for us as coaches is to make them talk every
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: day when they're on the court.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Coach, you talk about leadership and I find it like
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: in this new fascinating world, this landscape of college athletics, like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: is it, do you find that it's easier to become
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: a leader if you are established at that current school?
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Or is it more like the skins on the wall
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: are basically starts? I mean, you brought in some girls
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: this year, Layla Reynolds, that has 97 career starts in
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: the SEC, right? And Jada Williams, who's a senior, like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Where do you look for those seniors or the leadership
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: to take shape?
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: I think you said it best. I think the ones
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: that are here that have invested in the program and
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: been here the longest, you bet. Those are usually your leaders.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: But I also believe, like Jada Williams is one of
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: our captains, I also believe your personality and how you
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: interact with your team surfaces, no matter if you just
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: got there or not. And that's Jada Williams. She's constantly
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: talking on the floor. She's constantly cheering. But that's also
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: the position she plays. When you think of football, you
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: think of your quarterback, right? Leading. That's your coach on
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: the field offensively. And defensively, it could be a linebacker.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: It could be somebody at a skilled position on the
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: offensive side of the ball. That's your leader. So you're
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: going to have to be very observant because every year
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: you're not going to have the same team anymore. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: when you start workouts, you watch and you see the
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: interaction and you listen and you see what's going on
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: on the court. And then what I do, I give
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: them a note card and I'll tell them, put your
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: name at the top of that note card. And I
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: want you to write two people in this locker room
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: that you would be very willing to follow, that you
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: trust them, that, man, that would be a good captain.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: And if it is yourself, put yourself on there. So
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: I kind of let them engage in who they think
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: their captains should be. Now, it's interesting because who I
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: think a captain should be sometimes, sometimes they don't even
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: have their names on any of the note cards. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: it's kind of feedback for me personally. I ultimately make
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: the decision on captains, but I definitely get feedback from
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: the players. And you never share that. You know, it's personal.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: And I put it in their little folder so that
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: when they graduate, I can go back years from now
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: and go, wow, I remember that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: All right. There she is, Coach Kim Mulkey.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: We are so fired up to have her back on
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: the show every single week. Look, this LSU team has
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: seven straight home games to open up the season.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Go see this team.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Inside the PMAC. Coach, we can't thank you enough, and
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: we look forward to it every single week.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: Hey, go buy your tickets now. We're just about sold
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: out again. I think a week ago we had 90
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: tickets left to be a sellout for season tickets. So
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: go get a few tickets, guys. Take care and look
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: forward to visiting with y'all this year.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Again, Coach Kim Mulkey, go buy those tickets. Let's see
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: if we can get those 90 tickets sold out today.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: And again, we look forward to that every single week.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Appreciate her time. Excited about this team. All right, we
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: will step away. We've got more OTB coming your way
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench.
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• 42:29
  Speaker 9: I love this song. It should be my karaoke song.
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: I don't like to do songs where, like, the singer's, like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: exceptionally good at singing. Because... Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: No.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: At some point, you gotta try to hit the high note.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: And I can't.
• 42:45
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• 42:48
  Speaker 2: But you're gonna try. It's just not going to go well.
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  Speaker 2: Got a lot of good tries out there.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see all the good tries ahead?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we worked really hard this week. We just got
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  Speaker 2: to really dig in and solve this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Solving problems, Kellen. I hate that one. Why are you
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  Speaker 2: not dug in already?
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: Just got to dig in.
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  Speaker 6: It's a chance, though. I heard him say it's a
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: really good chance for... Good collaborative experience for their offensive staff.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: The running game. It's a good time for collaboration.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it was for you.
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: Y'all not already collaborating?
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: No.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: But I've interviewed your old head coach enough to kind
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: of know who he is. And I know you don't
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: know Norv like I know him, but I'm saying I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: feel like I know your coach and I know I
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: know my coach from the NFL. If things weren't going right,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: If there was something that we couldn't do, it wasn't
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: a fun week. It wasn't a comfortable week at practice
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: and in the facility by design. And that's the way
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: it should be. And if we couldn't run the ball,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: we were going to work on it. We were going
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: to figure it out. If we were bad on third downs,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: we were going to work on it. Not like down
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: the road.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That week, we were going to figure it out.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And if somebody tried to leave as soon as, like, basically, like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: in school when the bell rings, everybody leaves.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: If somebody tried to.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Leave as soon as practice broke down, we had Phillip Rivers,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Landon Tomlinson, Vincent Jackson.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, where are you going?
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: Uh-uh.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: No, you're going to come back here. We're going to
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: be here until about 637 tonight. And that was, like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: every single time if there was an issue. If it
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: was defensively, like, Eric Weddle was like, hey, what are
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: you doing?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: No, get back in. Like, we haven't gotten this figured out.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to figure it out. Yeah, we're going to evaluate.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: We're going to evaluate. We're going to self-evaluate.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: We're going to evaluate my foot in your ass right now.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I don't need to watch the film. I don't need
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to evaluate it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: Because we're not going to learn anything from that. We're
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: just going to watch bad team play football. We're going
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: to evaluate how I'm about to run your ass in
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: the dirt.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe the coaches.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Look, in one way or another, and I guess that's
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: kind of what I'm saying, too. Like, our coaches didn't
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: really even have to do it because it would never
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: get past that. But if it would have, then Mike
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: McCarthy would have been like, no, that's not what we're doing.
• 45:31
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