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- 0:32I am your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:38with Family and Consumer Sciences Extension at the University of Kentucky.
- 0:43We are housed in the Martin-Gatton College of Agriculture, Food, and Environment.
- 0:49Helicopter parenting is a concept that has been around for a long time.
- 0:54And you may think that we are just trying to be seasonally appropriate when
- 0:59I mention that our topic for today is snowplow parenting.
- 1:05My guest is Dr. David Weisenhorn, our Extension Specialist for Parenting and Child Development.
- 1:13And he is here to shed some light on this concept. Welcome, David.
- 1:20Well, thank you, Mandy. So tell me, what is snowplow parenting?
- 1:25Well, I love the way you opened it up because you're right.
- 1:28It's a term that seems to have advanced a bit from what we might have earlier
- 1:33heard as helicopter parenting.
- 1:34But snowplow parenting kind of
- 1:37takes it that step further, which isn't the step in the right direction.
- 1:40I'll start with that. But snowplow parenting refers to overly protecting a parenting
- 1:46style that parents try to remove all of the obstacles and challenges from their children's path.
- 1:53Like a snowplow would clear the road.
- 1:56Parents are clearing these obstacles for their children with the hopes that
- 2:01that would benefit them, you know? Yeah.
- 2:04Well, and it seems to me that having raised two boys, that if we clear all the
- 2:08obstacles, then when they get to adulthood, they don't know how to function on their own.
- 2:14And so we haven't really given them any benefit. They don't know how to fly
- 2:19when they leave the nest.
- 2:21You couldn't be more accurate with that. And I want to be sympathetic.
- 2:25I want to start as a parent who, when we begin, we don't know much of what we're
- 2:32doing. I think that's pretty standard across the board.
- 2:35And so I really want to put it out there is the reason I think parents do that
- 2:40is to protect their children. They don't want their kids to fail.
- 2:43It's hard to watch a child be uncomfortable or troubled deeply or hurt physically.
- 2:51And so the intent, I think, is good, but you're absolutely right,
- 2:57Mindy. When you do that, it's to the child's detriment in so many ways.
- 3:02Parenting is probably the most important job that comes without a manual.
- 3:09And so we need things like our podcast to help parents have a guide to help
- 3:15them along this journey that is so important and has such major ramifications.
- 3:22And you know, you figure we've been around, we've been on the earth long enough
- 3:25that somebody should have written a guide somewhere along the line.
- 3:29But the reality is, and why that guide doesn't exist, I believe is because of
- 3:33the nature of humans, just the uniqueness that we really are unique.
- 3:38And so parenting a unique child, or if you get the opportunity or the blessing
- 3:44of having more than one, then you get to see that they are very different and
- 3:48they are certainly unique.
- 3:49But you're right, there are drawbacks. And I think one of the major effects
- 3:54that research has shone is that when we shield our, our children,
- 3:58it really prevents them from developing that resilient problem-solving abilities
- 4:03and the ability to cope with adversity. And I think you mentioned that.
- 4:08Did you have an example of a time like that when you felt like maybe you were
- 4:14hurting your child by it with the attempts of helping them? Oh, yeah.
- 4:18You know, I think so many times my kids, and I always go back to when they were
- 4:25in high school And I had a hard and fast rule that we had to turn in the best
- 4:34possible grammatically correct papers that we could.
- 4:39And my kids were like, mom, the teachers don't care. They don't care.
- 4:43And I'm like, yes, they do. They do care.
- 4:46No, no, no. And they grew up in the years of phonetic spelling. you know?
- 4:53And, and so I, I was like, they called me the grammar.
- 4:57My kids called me the grammar po po because they, I was like,
- 4:59yes, you've got to do this.
- 5:01And so we would, you know, go over their papers with fine tooth combs and,
- 5:06you know, make sure that we had all of the grammar errors corrected and,
- 5:10and the spelling was right.
- 5:13And all of the punctuation was, was proper and, you know, Everything was good.
- 5:17And I went to a parent-teacher conference one time, and a teacher said to me,
- 5:24she said, you know, your boys have great papers when you turn them in.
- 5:30But she said, but I feel like they don't have the ability to self-regulate.
- 5:36And I'm like, oh, yeah.
- 5:39Maybe I am doing a little bit too much.
- 5:42Well, and powerful insights and great that they do that.
- 5:45But that's exactly, you know, that is exactly what the research indicates is
- 5:50that when we pave the road and really begin to intervene in a child's life, we stop them.
- 5:58We interfere with that struggle that they need to develop that sense of independence
- 6:02and that self-efficacy, right?
- 6:05How do I begin to believe in myself when I'm not the one that's actually learning
- 6:10the skills? And it goes further.
- 6:13The research actually shows that the opposite actually happens.
- 6:16When parents are overprotective and over-involved in the child's life,
- 6:20that those children later in life have a problem with just that,
- 6:23self-regulation, right?
- 6:24And they actually exhibit higher levels of anxiety.
- 6:28And we begin to see a lot of anxiety right now in our children.
- 6:32And that may not be, what I'm not saying is that it's only because of snowplow
- 6:38parenting or overprotective parenting, but what that does lead,
- 6:42that is one of the variables that can lead to these overly anxious children.
- 6:48Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think in my case, it had the opposite effect.
- 6:53It was like, they didn't care. Mom's going to fix it. So.
- 6:56Right. Well, you know, hey, and that's a good point because the second piece
- 7:00that I think is probably the other, what I would indicate is the other most
- 7:04detrimental piece to this is this
- 7:06leading to a sense of entitlement. One time, that whole idea,
- 7:11just what you said, it doesn't matter, mom's going to get it.
- 7:15But whenever we clear all that, children begin to expect that the world will
- 7:20always cater to their needs and desires.
- 7:23As any adult listening would know, that's a very unrealistic expectation in
- 7:30really setting our children up for disaster if we give them that perspective
- 7:36that the world is going to cater.
- 7:38Well, and I am so thankful for that teacher for pointing that out to me before
- 7:43it became a major issue, because then I just backed off. And I was like, okay, you boys do it.
- 7:50You do your work, you need to make the corrections, and you need to live with
- 7:54the grades you get if you don't do it.
- 7:56And that was a great learning experience for them.
- 8:00They saw what a difference it made when all of a sudden they didn't get their own grades.
- 8:06It's not that they did their own writing. It was just the grammar and the punctuation
- 8:12that were killing me, I guess. Right. Yeah.
- 8:16And when it was their own, then they had to live with the consequences.
- 8:20And so then it became their own. And they got to deal with it in high school
- 8:26and not when they got to college.
- 8:28And so, you know, that was a big deal.
- 8:31And so part of that then was you allowing them to make those mistakes and being
- 8:36okay with their grammatical mistakes, right?
- 8:40Yeah. And that's a, and I could, it's funny because that's a perfect segue into
- 8:45one of the things that I think is key that parents can really focus on and how
- 8:50to avoid this misstep of over-parenting is just that, begin with finding a balance.
- 8:57And that sounds like you had some help with the teacher to identify,
- 9:00to bring some awareness to it.
- 9:01But then you said, okay, wait a minute, I'm gonna work on creating a healthy
- 9:05balance between support and independence, right?
- 9:08So now I'm gonna create this environment where I'm gonna allow those mistakes
- 9:13are not necessarily viewed as critical or a lack of knowledge,
- 9:19but more so as an opportunity to learn. Exactly.
- 9:23Yeah. And that's what I want to present to parents is that it's not the removal
- 9:27of obstacles doesn't help.
- 9:29What does help is allowing children to make mistakes, especially younger in
- 9:35life. Make those mistakes that aren't as costly.
- 9:38Now's the time when they're young to let them mess up and learn when the stakes
- 9:43aren't as high. Yeah, exactly.
- 9:45Yeah, I agree 100%. And I was talking not too long ago to a mom who has two
- 9:51kids, and we were talking through some of these things, and she's like,
- 9:55how did you get so smart? And I was like, well...
- 9:57I have the benefit of hindsight and that really does help. I'm not in the thick of it right now.
- 10:04And so when you are in the thick of parenting, sometimes it feels very overwhelming.
- 10:10But when you can look back and realize, well, if I had done this or if I had
- 10:16done that, then it does kind of give you a little bit of insight that maybe
- 10:21when you're in the middle of it, you don't have.
- 10:23Yeah, for sure. For sure you don't have it. A lot of times you don't know what
- 10:29you need to know and when you need to know it.
- 10:32The other thing I heard you say, which I'll key in because I think it's really
- 10:37the second piece that I would offer to parents is just this promoting that communication.
- 10:43The idea that, hey, you said, hey, listen, okay, guys, you're on your own.
- 10:48And they were able to speak with you about what their struggles were and maybe
- 10:53what that was like for them.
- 10:55And that's it, right? we want to encourage children to express that.
- 10:57We want to hear their feelings.
- 10:59We want to help build that trust through those open channels of communication.
- 11:04And this allows parents to understand what a child needs, what they need without
- 11:10the excessive intervention of stepping in and actually doing it.
- 11:14So more so the encouragement is what children can really, what is really valuable
- 11:21to children is that we encourage them, not do it for them, but encourage to
- 11:24keep on in the persistence of something that might be difficult, right?
- 11:29And that develops such a character trait that we later in life look at and admire, right?
- 11:35Someone that doesn't give up easily, that persists in hard times or in difficult situations.
- 11:42You look at that and you say, that's the person I want on my team.
- 11:45That's the individual that I want to hire for this job because they can do hard
- 11:51things and they don't give up.
- 11:52Well, and giving them the space to make mistakes, but recognizing that you can
- 11:58make changes and you can improve upon whatever it is that you're doing.
- 12:02Whether it is your grammar or some other mistake or challenge that you face.
- 12:06It really opened up lines of communication between us because then I wasn't
- 12:11harping on them about the challenges or the mistakes that they've made,
- 12:16but I really was giving them the opportunity to come to me and say,
- 12:19how can I make this better mom instead of you have screwed up?
- 12:24I love it. And that's such a critical lesson for them to learn in that transfer
- 12:30of knowledge to say, hey, listen, I am here.
- 12:32And so I want to encourage parents now, if you find yourself,
- 12:35if maybe you identify now that you've heard this, you're like,
- 12:38oh, man, maybe that's me.
- 12:40Maybe I have been clearing some of the obstacles and challenges and hardships
- 12:44that are in my children's life. It's not too late.
- 12:48It's as you learned, as you were brought to that awareness, Mindy,
- 12:52you were quickly, you shifted and that was exactly what was needing.
- 12:55And out of that shift, your children learned a couple of things.
- 12:58They learned that mom does have my best interest. She's got my back because
- 13:02she was trying to do this for me. She wants the best for me.
- 13:05But now that she's allowed it now, and now she wants to hear what I have to say.
- 13:10She's there for me if I need it. And so I want to encourage parents that if
- 13:15they feel like that's them right now, you are making some good moves.
- 13:19And the good moves are that you're showing your kids you care for them.
- 13:23And that is, but the overstepping, you know, finding that healthy balance,
- 13:28that's going to be important. And you can do that, right? So it's never too
- 13:32late. Appreciate that, Mindy.
- 13:34Well, and I can say here on the backside, now that I have children who are in
- 13:39their late 20s, they still come to me when they have a challenge and they're
- 13:44like, mom, what's your perspective? How do you see this?
- 13:47And that is gratifying as an older person now that they value my opinion and
- 13:53they value my perspective.
- 13:55And they don't always go the way that I think that they might be best for them.
- 14:01But at least I know that they consider my opinion valuable or or my input is important to them.
- 14:09And so that would never have happened if I had always just steamrolled them.
- 14:14So I really do appreciate the input from that early teacher who said, hey.
- 14:20You're really doing too much here. I mean, so quickly you were able just to
- 14:24strike that balance between support and independence, allowed them room to make
- 14:29mistakes, and then fostered that open communication.
- 14:32And that is, in a nutshell, what I wanted to bring today.
- 14:36Those are those crucial steps in avoiding those pitfalls and maintaining good
- 14:43relationships and open communication with your kids.
- 14:46I couldn't ask for a better story, Mindy, to illustrate.
- 14:50Yeah, and you put me on the spot, so I had to think of one really quickly.
- 14:54I know. I'm sorry for that, but you did well. Good, good, yeah.
- 14:58And, you know, grammar might not be the biggest concern in parenting skills
- 15:05or parenting life, but, you know, it's a small story.
- 15:09But it is something that has had an effect on our relationships throughout the years.
- 15:14We've kind of covered what snowplow parenting is and what some of the effects
- 15:19of it might be. and ways that we can avoid it.
- 15:22What else do we need to do before we wrap up? Keep getting up and doing it and
- 15:26learning and knowing that even when we mess up as parents, that there's always
- 15:31room to recover from that. And so I hope that's the message today.
- 15:34A couple of things that that's what we know is snowplow parenting is.
- 15:40And now as we move forward, that if that's us, we know how to avoid it.
- 15:44And if we do find that that is us, we know how to correct it.
- 15:48So keep working, keep being and a great parent.
- 15:50Well, and as always, if you need support, you can reach out to your local extension
- 15:55office because we have lots of resources that are available.
- 15:59David, thanks for taking the time to share with us today.
- 16:02Mindy, thank you for having me. If you are just tuning in, you have been listening
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