Latest / Her Working Life / How Busy Moms Make Time to Work Out | Ep. 3
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- Courtnie Cotterell: Welcome back. Or if you're new here, you're joining us on Her Working Life podcast. I am Courtney. This is my friend Jordan. And this is where we have real conversations with real women about different aspects of our life, whether that is work, fitness, or motherhood. And today, Jordan, we're gonna be talking about fitness. But before we start, I just have to tell you, I keep thinking about what you said last week about you assembling your Amazon furniture and cursing. I think it is so Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: funny. I do have a follow-up question. Did Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, what's up? Courtnie Cotterell: Your kids or your husband ever walk in on these moments of frustration? Jordyn Fullmer: one hundred percent. You know, I'm like level ten ticked off. Like nobody nobody get in my path when I'm when I'm there because I'm so mad. Yeah, it's like the kids Courtnie Cotterell: Like the fire coming out of your head, Steve. Jordyn Fullmer: just they enter the room and see and just Yeah, we're just gonna go this way. Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, turnaround. my goodness, that's so funny. It's so true. But today we're going to kind of switch gears and talk about fitness and not like our Instagram FitSpo fitness that you probably see a lot on your Facebook feeds and your Instagram feeds, but what actually really works and fits in with working moms in real life. So especially, you know, lots of things that we see online are not reality. And so we're gonna be kind of breaking it down and talking about that. So I think a big thing too that I want to point out is that as a fitness instructor, it is very important to think of health as an overall situation instead of just the way we look. That is huge for me. Jordyn Fullmer: Percent. Courtnie Cotterell: I think the way that we feel our bodies and the way that we just still can enjoy life is a big thing that I wanna discuss today. So I don't know, Jordan, what do you do you feel the same or do you feel differently? Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, completely. It's fitness is ever evolving, you know, during different phases of your life. So, for example, when I was in high school, I was in sports and that was my workout and I loved it and I was very active playing basketball and and doing these different things. And as things evolved as I got older, there were times where, you know, it was harder and my workouts were shorter and maybe the consistency wasn't every day. And so Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: I do think that understanding that is pretty crucial to being consistent with fitness. Courtnie Cotterell: Yes. Well, and I feel like a big part too is like not only making sure you're getting those workouts in, but also making sure you're taking the time to rest, which I know we've talked a lot about in our conversations with each other that maybe we could both use a little bit more sleep. But not even just that. It's like Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, sure. Courtnie Cotterell: waking up, you know, every day and like, Okay, if I'm like worn out completely, it's not going to do any good to go work out. So yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: Yep. Sometimes it's just counterproductive for sure. Well, how Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: has fitness evolved through your life? Like when did you have you always loved fitness? Courtnie Cotterell: You know, it's funny because I remember back when I was younger, my mom was a mall walker. I don't know if they're like mall walkers or that's a thing where you live, but my mom would go mall walking with her sister. So we'd go with her and that's kind of what she did for fitness. but it's interesting because I always would consider myself a fairly active person, but growing up I wouldn't have ever said that I was super athletic. Like if you would have asked me, I would have like, I'm a dancer or like I'm a singer. Like I wouldn't say, like, yeah, I'm really good at and athletic. but I liked playing sports. I thought it was fun. I once I got over the fear, you know, of like middle school sports and boys and all of the things. But then when I started dating my husband, and we had talked about this on one of our previous episodes, he was like, Hey, let's go running. He's like this college athlete that was like an all American lacrosse player and I at the time was on like I was a dancer. I got a degree in music dance theater from my university and so we would go and work out and I was on a performing group at you know at my university and so we needed to stay in shape and that was a big thing and I think a big part about my fitness journey is that my husband has always been super supportive. Not supportive like you need to lose weight but like hey let's do this together. It was an activity we could do together. And then As soon as I got that little push, it was something I grew to love and I like the way I feel after I work out. And I think that's the biggest thing. I like like stretching myself and doing hard things. And there's something about the endorphins that you get after a good workout, that just really leaves you on a high and really just sets you up for a a great day, you know, at least for me when I work out in the morning. So I had five kids. I am one who is not A cute pregnant lady, like I would gain 70 pounds with every single pregnancy. And like I would always tell my husband, I'm like, I have lost and gained so much weight. Like I think like, Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: you know, 250 pounds at least, like it's that's a lot. But for me it was important to feel like just feel my best. And all my pregnancies looked a little different. I did work out through the majority of mine. I mean When I had my first baby, I was like still running on a track at my university with a big old belly, you know, and everyone's like looking at the pregnant girl. Jordyn Fullmer: That's awesome. Mm-hmm. Courtnie Cotterell: and then with my fourth baby, it was kinda hard. Like it was a lot harder. I had lots of little kids at home and didn't you know, my husband was gone really early till kind of later at night and I didn't want to work out at night. So I would try to fit in at home workouts and then after I had all my kids That's where I was able to really just dedicate myself to making sure I get good workouts. I went through a freight phase where I like more of a runner, I'd say. I went through a phase where I was doing at-home weight lift lifting workouts with really lightweights. And now I'm at a phase where I'm actually in a phase I never thought I'd be in, which is leading other people in fitness classes and helping them along their own fitness journey. my favorite types of workouts to lead right now are Strength training. I really like that. Lifting heavy weights, there's nothing better. And obviously the studies out there have shown how important that is in our overall health and wellness. But yeah, I mean I teach a few other formats too, but my workouts these days are pretty much whatever I'm teaching. And then on days when I'm not teaching, I usually like to do something that's just fun, which for me it looks like either doing aerobics or like high fitness. If you've heard of high fitness, it's like Not old school aerobics, but it's like to popular songs on the radio that you hear. And then just weightlifting on machines at the gym. So that's kind of what I do. What are you doing? Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, so I like I mentioned, you know, did basketball and other sports in high school. So I was always doing some form of fitness. But once I had my first baby, I was actually working in an orthodontic office when I had him. So I was working a little bit and I had my first baby and I just fitness kind of fell off the radar for me. I think I was kind of overwhelmed with becoming a new mom and unfortunately I just stopped working out. I didn't feel like I had time for it. And which isn't true, by the way, now that I have four kids, I'm like I definitely had time for it. But, Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: you know, I was growing at that point and and learning how to do the mom thing. And so through my first and second baby, I honestly don't think I really ever went to the gym or did any form of fitness. I'm sure I went running a time or two. I remember having a stroller that I could jog with, but I've never been like a big runner myself. I love running in basketball, but that's about it. And so yeah, so it was kind of unfortunate, you know, I kind of lost that identity, that side of myself. And it wasn't until after my third baby actually that I think I was so consumed with motherhood and the sacrifice of motherhood that I kind of hit a low where I realized that I needed to do something for myself, you know? And Courtnie Cotterell: Hm, yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: so, you know, my husband helped me remember that I love fitness and working out and he kind of helped motivate me to go to the gym. And so I started going to the gym early morning before my kids would wake up. And I don't think any of my kids were even in school at this time. So I would get up at six or so and go to the gym. We had a gym close by and I would just go lift weights. I bought a program online. And so I got pretty obsessed with it. You know, I remembered that I loved the feeling it gave me and I went probably six days a week, honestly, for a straight year. It was awesome. Like I was like, this is Courtnie Cotterell: Awesome. Jordyn Fullmer: like I f I re fell in love with it. And then I got pregnant with my fourth baby and I remember being pregnant and being at the gym and just like looking at myself and being like, Well, this is all gonna go go down tubes again 'cause your girl's gonna get fat again, so that sucks. And I like suck at working out when I'm pregnant. I get so I know every I like I know every single mom in human existence gets sick in their first trimester. And I get very sick, you know, it's like I just I I didn't have the bandwidth to work out in my first trimester and I was just in survival mode, you know, with my three other kids. And and so I never I just kind of write it off. I'm kind of like a I can either do it all the way or I'm not gonna do it at all. At least that was my mentality at that point, which it's changed since then. But I was like, if I'm not gonna work out every day, then I'm not gonna go, which is so bad. Don't do that. Courtnie Cotterell: But I think there's a lot of people who feel that way though, right? I mean like that's common. Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: But totally. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And I knew I was pregnant. So anyways, I fell off again, didn't work out through my pregnancy. And then after my fourth, like I knew that I wanted to get back at it. But trying to balance four kids, it it took me some time. I went here or there, but it took me some time to get that consistency back. I think I was probably eight months postpartum before I really started hitting it hard again and going in the mornings, maybe even more, like maybe a year. And so now I go, I try and go every morning and I love lifting weights. Like my fitness jam is pop in headphones, nobody talk to me. I don't want to work out with a partner. Like I just want to like listen to my music Courtnie Cotterell: Independent woman. Jordyn Fullmer: and just be in the zone in my own head. And I think Some of that comes from having my four little kids and I just like you know what I mean? And so yeah, I get up and I try and do that most mornings, but with that being said, like it's not perfect like it was after my third baby. Now I do Amazon, now I work and I do these different things and so I struggle to get there six days a week for sure. But I also realize that something is better than nothing. And so Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: if I can go two or three times a week, that's a win for me. You know what I mean? And it Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: makes me feel so good. Like you were saying, the endorphins after a workout is like feeling that high is beats out the tiredness of waking up in the morning. Like me thinking Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: like I know I'm gonna feel dang good once I just this tiredness wears off. You know, that's kind of what gets me there. So that's kind of my story and I love Courtnie Cotterell: Okay. Jordyn Fullmer: I love just lifting weights, machines, dumbbells, like the squat rag, all of that. So Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. No, that's awesome. So do you think that you like would you say your workouts are more shorter or long? Like what does your workout look like these days? Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, so I am lucky if I get sixty minutes. Courtnie Cotterell: Okay. Jordyn Fullmer: that's like my like okay, sixty minutes that was a that was a win on the day. I would say most of the time it's between fifty and sixty minutes for sure. Usually Courtnie Cotterell: Okay. Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: rarely more and usually I at least get that, which is good. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, no, that's great. I'm sure that there's a lot of people out there that are like, I just have twenty or thirty minutes. And you can get a lot done Jordyn Fullmer: Totally. Courtnie Cotterell: in twenty or thirty minutes for sure. But you have to Jordyn Fullmer: Mm-hmm. Courtnie Cotterell: be like laser focused and really just go for it. So Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: yeah. And you did mention like AIP has, you know, kind of changed the game for you in terms of your work and trying to balance that in. And I would say, you know, in at least in my motherhood journey, there's been different like ebbs and flows of being able to work out for longer periods of time. the gym for me is also kind of a social place, at least right now for me. Like, especially as an instructor, I will teach a class and then people want to talk or have questions. lots of my participants have become my friends and so we'll kind of chat. And like it's so funny because my husband's like, So did you just do one workout today? I'm like, Yeah, Jordyn Fullmer: Thanks. Courtnie Cotterell: I was gone for enough time I could have done two, but I just did one workout. So but you know, Jordyn Fullmer: that's awesome. Courtnie Cotterell: like I have pictures of having little kids at home and like I hadn't like a headphone thing in and it was like this workout was like on a stick that you'd basically like push play and it'd tell you what to do and my kids were sitting there as I'm lifting, you know, weights. So so Jordyn Fullmer: Mm-hmm. That's so cool. Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: yeah, I mean it does have to ebb and flow. I used to teach and work out at like six AM like you do. And now I just my life's a little different. I don't have to do that anymore. So probably could get a lot more done if I woke up early, but Jordyn Fullmer: No, that's nice. I look forward to the day that I can work out after I drop my kids off from school. Yeah, then it's sad. It's a bittersweet thing for sure. Courtnie Cotterell: It will come and then it will come and you'll be like, why are they growing up? This is so sad. Yeah. for sure. man. Okay, well, do you feel like fitness for you has been a type of coping tool? I mean, you you mentioned that you feel like those endorphins. I always think back to that like line from Legally Blonde where she's like, endorphins, you know, make you happy, and happy people don't go kill all the people. Like Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, dear. Courtnie Cotterell: Like you get the high, but like are there other things that, you know, make this a priority for you as to why you want to continue working out? Jordyn Fullmer: For sure, yeah. So I am the type of person that I'm genuinely just happier if I work out. I really am, and I know there's probably a science behind that. Maybe you know more about that than me, but my husband will joke with me and he'll be like, You I think you need to get I think you need to hit the gym, you know? Like, I don't know what it is, but I know the times where I'm not working out, I am just Frumpier, generally speaking, I would say, and maybe it's not obvious to everyone, you know what I mean? But I feel it. And so there was a time there where I had my fourth baby and I was doing Amazon and I wasn't working out because Amazon I could work I only did it at night and I I just couldn't work out during the day. And so that was a hard time for me because I love working out and I wasn't getting that. And so, you know, that like my mood and then just Overall health is important to me because I mean, we're all getting older and I know that, you know, I just want I know how important it is to have strong muscles in your old age. And I wanna Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: be somebody that has that and is able to, you know, support myself and my back and be able to walk and be able to do these things when I'm older. And so I know that that starts now. So I would say like Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: that's Definitely a big part of it for me. And then just having like that outlet, I think, is the biggest one where I'm doing everything as a mom, sacrificing for the kids and you know, working and doing these things. And I think it's important as moms to have some passion, something you love, something that you can use as an outlet. and so that's what working out is for me is definitely that like a passion and an outlet. A time where I can be i you know, in my own head and just enjoy myself. So Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Yeah. Well and you you asked the question about like is there some science behind that? I think a big thing is like You're taking time for yourself as well. So you're having a little bit of self-care, which as moms I feel like is really difficult to get because our job as moms is to always help everyone else, right? Like we're Jordyn Fullmer: Yep, totally. Courtnie Cotterell: constantly like focused on everyone else and how everyone else is doing. And it's really easy to kind of get like put on the back burner. And I think again, like having like a healthy kind of like moment where you're realizing, like, okay, am I f I need to fill my own bucket before I can give to other people. So That's where it's been good for me too in that regard. So it's interesting because leading a group of women, obviously, some men sometimes come to my classes. It's interesting because everyone kind of has their own why. But for me as an instructor, I really do feel like a lot of the things I try to teach my class and that we're working on are functional fitness components, right? So sometimes I'll be doing like we'll be doing suitcase squats or something, and I'll be like, okay, like this is gonna help us as we pick up our groceries or you know, a bicep curl. Like, okay, I'm going to like we're we're working those biceps. To help us be able to pick up our groceries. And I think that kind of clues people into like, yeah, we're doing this because we're trying to be stronger and be able to do these things for ourselves for longer compared to like I want to look a certain way. And it's tricky because I don't know about you, Jordan, but like sometimes I'll get stuff on my f Instagram feed that's just like all lies, but it makes you feel bad about yourself. Jordyn Fullmer: Totally. Courtnie Cotterell: Like it doesn't matter what like mental space you're in, like you'll see something and you're just like, Ugh, either I need to do so much better or I wish I looked like that, or you know. And it can be tricky. So the comparison culture is real, but I think if you kinda try to keep in the forefront of your mind, like w the reasons you're doing this and why fitness is important, that's gonna be the bigger takeaway from like your workouts, you know? So Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, completely agree. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, so Do you have any tips as to how you fit your fitness in or especially with kids? 'Cause I'm I mean you have kids at home, I know what I did, but like it probably looks a lot different now because I it's been a while since I haven't had someone in school. Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Yeah. So I think going opposite of what I was saying earlier with not having the hundred percent mentality I think is important with fitness because I think knowing that, you know, if you do something it's better than nothing is really, really important because that's just like fact. It's like if you're working out for one or two days a week versus six, like that's better than zero. But at the same time, going to the gym isn't the only way to get a workout. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: Right? There's a there's a lot of other ways. I have a good friend who's really good at going on a walk in the morning when she wakes up. And I think often it's by herself before her kids wake up. And so that's something that I'm wanting to try and implement is if I don't get up on time, instead of just completely Xing it out, go on a walk. Walking Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: is so good for your body. If you do it at a faster speed and get your heart rate up just a little bit, like that's really, really beneficial for your body. And so I think implementing little things like that where, you know, maybe you can do a walk, maybe you, you know, target the gym three days a week or two days a week. Maybe you do body weight stuff. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: Like, that's all things that are gonna benefit you a lot versus doing nothing. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Well Jordyn Fullmer: So Courtnie Cotterell: and I also feel like with like the holidays coming up and with the new year starting, that's where you usually see a lot of people talking about fitness and health and you know, I was not a gym goer for and probably until like this last decade of my life. And so all of those years I was just working out at my house and it doesn't take a lot these days to be able to find some good Functional like equipment equipment that you can store in your home, whether you just need to slide under your couch or you know, under your bed, or if you have a corner in your room that you could stick some things, you just need a couple weights, and you could really do a lot, which is really important. I do have to say though, it's kind of interesting as I'm kind of now in my 40s, starting to kind of get on the other end of like I'm not in the childbearing years, and I'm not like a young mom anymore, right? Like, it's interesting because so many studies have come out saying how important. The strength training is obviously for our just for everyday movement, but to keep our bones strong, which is so important, and it's never too late to add in you know resistance training at all, but also we need to balance it out with some of that cardio, and so that's where I think like the weights are or going on walks are really great, but they're I don't know if they're still like a hot hot topic, but like weighted vest. Do you have a weighted vest? Jordyn Fullmer: I don't but I know a lot of people do. I think they're great. Yeah. I know, I do. I do. I need to land one. Yes. Courtnie Cotterell: Yes, you need to you need to get her get one for your reviews. There you go. I reviewed a few. Yeah, but I weighted vest, like people are like, I need my weighted vest to be able to go on walk. And really, if you are not doing any other like resistance training at all, weighted vests, you know, you can add that on with your walk and it will just be a little bit different. But anyway, there's a lot of different things that have come out in the last few years that kind of switch up the workout game. Jordyn Fullmer: Mm-hmm. Courtnie Cotterell: So you just have to find something that you love. And I think that's the biggest thing is to find what you love. So it sounds like you love Jordyn Fullmer: I agree with that. Courtnie Cotterell: weight training. Jordyn Fullmer: Yes, I love weight training. I'm not a runner. I've maybe if I gave it a better shot, I would like it, but I just have never been somebody that enjoys running. And so I've completely like X'd that out, which makes it feel less daunting for me when I'm at the gym. 'Cause I just tell myself, Yeah, I'm not gonna run. And I I mean I do run if I go play basketball. I'll go play pick Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: a ball and I've gone through phases in my life where that's my workout. you know, like once a week, I'll go play basketball or whatever. And like that's great. But honestly, like what you said, finding something you love is what helps you win in fitness because if I had to go to the gym every day and like run a mile, I would dread that so much. But like Courtnie Cotterell: Ha ha ha. Jordyn Fullmer: me going and lifting and then walking on the treadmill Courtnie Cotterell: Okay, so you walk. Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: for twenty minutes on an incline, like that's that's like I love that. I'll just incline Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: it to a higher incline, walk it two point zero or two point five and I sit there and listen to music or sometimes I'll watch a show on my phone. Like it's so nice, you know? Like, dude, I wish I could like didn't have to leave because I don't even think Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: about the fact that I'm working out, you know? We don't get that as Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, no, that's true. Jordyn Fullmer: moms. And I think I think like people will say, you know, like just generally speaking, like what what do you do? Like they're looking for an answer with like how to like do fitness. Like how do we do that? Like what's the trick? You know? And Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: there's like not a trick. You just have to do it. Whatever form that Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: it works for you and you have to do it every day or however often you can for a long time. And then your body will you know, it will thank you. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: So Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, well and you know, going to the gym can seem daunting to people just because maybe they do find themselves a little bit more of like in that comparison trap. And I think we've talked about this in some of our epis other episodes, about, you know, finding your why or finding what, you know, is going to motivate you to want to go do those things. And for me, I just keep thinking like, you know, we're given one body and we have to be good stewards of that body. and I'm like I have a friend who is a registered dietitian and she just has so many good like one liners and she's always talking about like you know you can't like if you look at different dog breeds you can't expect like a a big mountain dog to be the same as like a little wiener dog. Like you no matter Jordyn Fullmer: Mm-hmm. Courtnie Cotterell: how much that little wiener dog eats or how much that mountain dog doesn't eat, they're not ever going to be different, right? Or like each you know the same I guess. and you can't like with genetics you're given what you're given and you just have to do a good job of like being able to make sure you're giving yourself enough of what you need to be able to continue to grow and stay strong and healthy. But obviously there are certain outside forces and things that happen like cancer and sicknesses and diseases and and it's really like sad that those things happen and they do happen to a lot of people, whether they happen to you or to someone you love, it's going to it's bound to happen. But that's where I just keep thinking I need to be a good steward of my body while we're healthy and in the hopes that we'll continue to grow and be able to live a long, pain free and you know, movement based life, I guess. So it's very interesting. Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, one hundred percent. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. So you like to walk. Do you ever do like some of the other cardio machines at the gym? So you have like your stair stepper, your Resistance bikes, rowers, what else do we have? like any sort of there's a few different bikes at least at the gym that I go to. ellipticals Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: used to be a big thing. Like what what Jordyn Fullmer: Right. Courtnie Cotterell: else do you do? Or you just do incline walking? Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, so I after my third baby, I my kids had late start Fridays. And so I loved Courtnie Cotterell: nice. Jordyn Fullmer: that because they started at like nine thirty and it was awesome. So I would get up at my normal gym time and I would go to a spinning class and then I would do like twenty minutes of weightlifting after if I was feeling it, 'cause the spinning class was like forty minutes or so. And I loved that. So I do love that. I haven't done it lately, but I always I'll switch on and off the stairmaster and then occasionally I'll throw like just a spinning bike in there just sometimes as my own cardio but I would say Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: majority I'm incline walking or I'm jumping on the stairmaster for sure. Courtnie Cotterell: That's awesome. I Jordyn Fullmer: And you I'm sure cardio's implemented a lot in your classes or do you Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah, yeah. So it's funny 'cause like Jordyn Fullmer: you know something different with that? Courtnie Cotterell: even just being a fitness instructor for like the last eight ish years, like My the classes I teach have kind of like changed, you know, and I do like teaching cycle. It's I really like the challenge of that. I'm a s like a road biker. I like to go road biking with my husband, which is funny because this year where we live, our middle school has a mountain bike team and my youngest decided she wanted to try that. And I took her out for a ride, just the two of us, for the first time on Labor Day, and that was like the best thing. I thought it was Jordyn Fullmer: That's so fun. Courtnie Cotterell: so fun. Jordyn Fullmer: That's so cool. Courtnie Cotterell: And we went like twenty miles. Like it was like, Yes, girl, let's get this and she was so motivated and it's just so funny because a lot of the mountain biking community when they're practicing it's like very chatty, you know. And I kind of am like it like, Let's hit this, you know. So I'm like, Let's go and she's like, But Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: we still needed to chat So it was it was fun, like they'll like go and ride and get like a drink somewhere, you know, it's so fun. But but yeah, so Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, that's awesome. Courtnie Cotterell: right now I I teach like some a few strength classes, and then I also do a fascia release class. I don't know if you've ever done any rolling or like lacrosse balls on your muscles or anything like that. But that's really I teach one class of that a week and that's really fun and then Yeah, in the past I've taught bar and I've taught cycling and I could teach any of those classes if someone needed, but yeah, it's really, really fun, fun to kind of try different things. The fascia release class has been an interesting ad to my schedule just because you know, we don't take a lot of time to stretch and relax. And I love it because it gives you a moment to kind of like come and like really focus on your body. And it's not like yoga, like, you know, I like yoga, but I need to probably do more yoga in my life. life but this is more of like work out the knots and the panes and feeling things release that way so that's that's been really fun too so Jordyn Fullmer: That's cool. That's very cool. That sounds interesting. Courtnie Cotterell: yeah yeah so okay well if you had a piece of advice for anyone that maybe needs to start a fitness journey or they want to what would you say to them? Jordyn Fullmer: I would say you just have to take that leap and start. I think often, and I'm guilty of this myself, we wait until if you know the time is right and then it's like, January one. I I still do it. It's like, through the holidays I'm not working Courtnie Cotterell: Okay. Jordyn Fullmer: out, but like January, January comes. Or like some sometimes I have a bad Courtnie Cotterell: Isn't it hard? Jordyn Fullmer: week and I'm like, Monday though, you know? Workouts workout's gonna start. Let's go. Like it we all do it, but I do think like the journey, it starts when you decide it starts and you don't have to have like this perfect, you know, timeline of something happening or an event happening to do it. And I think it's really just a decision within. Like, do you want to better your life with fitness or do you not? And then Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: like making that commitment to yourself and just like taking the leap and sending it on that is I think my piece of advice. Like just do it, don't overthink it. And do what you can with the time that you have, however that looks to you. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. Jordyn Fullmer: So what about Courtnie Cotterell: Well Jordyn Fullmer: you? What's what's your tip? Courtnie Cotterell: It's interesting because my kids have gotten older. They've all been pretty active, played sports or danced or whatnot. And it's interesting because the as my kids have gotten older, I've realized how much they really are watching you, right? So I I'm really excited seeing my kids kind of grow into loving working out and loving that feeling of like accomplishment of doing something really hard. And you know, my older kids, as they've moved out of the house, it's like they make the gym a priority because they like the way that it makes. Them feel and they they like feeling you know worked like it's it they've kind of caught on to that endorphin thing. So I think it's really important just to be kind to yourself, like you have to give yourself grace, depending on where you are in life, is going to determine what kind of commitment you can give. And like you said, like giving it a commitment is going to be the biggest thing, just making sure you're doing something. and it's okay if you need to restart or reinvent the will, but it doesn't always have to be on a Monday or always have to be. You know, like it can happen at any time, and you just have to kind of make it a priority. I think that's the thing is like if you feel like you don't have enough time, you need to kind of take a bird's eye view of your schedule and think where's like a little piece I can put over here, or where's something that can shift that will allow me that. And then overall, I feel like you're just gonna feel better, not only for your health, but for your mental clarity and just feeling better about yourself, being in a better mental space in that regard. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. I kind of I definitely feel better. when I work out but it's also really hard to come out of like that hole if you're kind of beating yourself up and being rude to yourself if you're not giving yourself like a gift back and that's what I feel like working out and fitness is is you're like giving back to yourself so Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah, I love that. Courtnie Cotterell: Yeah. man. Well, Jordan, next week I think we're gonna hit motherhood and I think all of this kind of plays into each other. We've talked today a little bit about how our fitness journeys have changed through our different l phases of motherhood. So, you know, I think we're gonna have a little bit of a good discussion about motherhood and how we raise our kids and hopefully I won't just be feeling a lot of regret. Like wishing I would have done things better. Jordyn Fullmer: One hundred percent. The the mom guild is the mom guild is strong, especially nowadays, Courtnie Cotterell: Ha ha ha. Jordyn Fullmer: man. Courtnie Cotterell: That is so true, but yeah, no. And we are both in good spots. I mean, I don't feel like I I can tell you one hundred percent I did not do everything right when my kids were little, but I do feel like times have changed and I'm very curious to kind of have a conversation with you and see how raising kids at home is different for you than what it was for me. Even just with the few Jordyn Fullmer: Yeah. Courtnie Cotterell: years between us, so Jordyn Fullmer: One Yeah, like seeing seeing how things have changed today versus when you had your little kids at home because even though our age gap isn't that different, I think time you know, the life we live today is quite a bit different. So anyways, thank you guys for joining us today. We'll see ya on the next one.