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Turnbuckles & Stogies :Its Time for Backlash and MLW coverage · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  Turnbuckles and stogies yo, what is up?
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  What is up yo? Happy Sunday, Another Sunday
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  with your favorite Hostess with the mostess.
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  Not my dad, I'm doing the rest. Of my I looked and.
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  I said, hey, what's on the Brooklyn view?
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  We're not in Brooklyn, so we're in upstate New York and Dutchess
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  County. I'm originally from Raucous.
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  I guess you guys don't know each other that well.
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  It is me. Your favorite part of the
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  Turnbuckles and Stogies podcast? The Vanilla Grill.
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  How is everybody out there in podcast land doing today?
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  Happy Mother's Day to everybody. Enjoy your Sunday with your pet,
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  with your mother's, your father's, you know, whoever,
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  whoever you appreciate on this day.
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  Grandmother's big shout out from us to you guys, enjoy your
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  Mother's Day. So we are here outside today.
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  I'm actually smoking and so is the other part of this podcast.
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  You're smoking the Don Pepin Garcia Vegas Cubanas to start
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  the morning. I got that paired with a nice
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  cup of coffee on this beautiful Sunday morning here in the
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  lovely, lovely, lovely place called New York.
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  Now let's, let's talk about some stuff we got coming up.
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  So as you guys know, last week, our guest, MC Shan couldn't make
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  it. Don't worry, that episode will
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  be coming out. If not this Sunday or no, not
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  sorry, be filming it on Wednesday.
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  She'll probably drop next week. So we'll have the week off and
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  then we'll be sitting down with another music producer,
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  songwriter, record record producer, actor, Chris the glove
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  from the movie breaking. He'll be sitting down with us as
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  well. We have an interview coming up
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  with La Rosa Negra cigars, so they'll be on here as well.
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  Probably set that up. Probably set that up this week,
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  if not this week, maybe next week.
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  Set it up filming with them. Drop it on the 25th so you guys
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  can watch working on June. I'm trying to get get some other
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  wrestlers on here for you guys, some more cigar makers.
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  You know, we want to we want to support everybody we can and,
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  and and about them and their brand.
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  Trying to get some of the big brands on here too, but I don't
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  know if that's going to happen, but I'm working on that promise.
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  I'm seeing what I can do. I might, might see if I can get
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  maybe agonors on here, see what I can do.
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  You know, because I know everybody loves agonorsia.
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  And you, you may have smoked them and not even known it.
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  You may have smoked something rolled out of their factory, may
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  not have even known that. So.
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  This is such a good cigar, such a great cigar, not something you
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  can find, well you can find everywhere, but up here not
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  everybody carries them. Actually found it in a in a
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  smoke shop by the house. So, you know, listen, that's a
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  great thing for everybody, great thing for everybody.
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  So now as most of you know, last night was Backlash and a little
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  I say less and don't come because not a lot of people know
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  about them, but a lot of people do.
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  The same time Major League Wrestling had their Azteca Lucha
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  show last night, their joint show with Major League Wrestling
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  and EMLL out of Mexico. They brought all their luchadors
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  up, champions, all kind of show is the show was absolutely
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  fantastic. Loved it, got to finish watching
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  it, but everything I've seen from the highlights to what I've
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  watched, a fantastic show from top to bottom.
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  If you're a lucha libre fan, that's that show was for you
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  because it had the lucha libre, it had your hard hitting
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  heavyweight action, had legends. It's a great show.
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  What up? And then Backlash, of course,
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  was it started. Off a little rough.
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  It was it was a great show overall.
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  It just some of the matches were a little lackluster.
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  The four way men's match was fucking amazing for the US belt
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  between Jacob Fatu, LA Knight, Damien Priest and Drew McIntyre
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  kicked off the show and man, that fucking match was great.
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  Match was absolutely killer and there was a big, big, big debut.
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  In that match. You had Jeff Cobb.
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  He showed up and helped Jacob retain the belt along with Solo.
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  That's OK, I'm taking over the show anyway.
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  Yeah, that that debut was big. More details have come out about
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  that and and him coming back and how he got signed and how all
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  that happened. Nope, just hit the power button
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  on the bottom. So he showed up.
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  Hey bitches, I'm here. He's here.
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  He's right over there. I'm here.
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  Hello. You might have to just move
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  over. I got a lighter, don't worry
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  about it. I'm here.
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  So, yeah, so details came out about Jeff Cobb last night, last
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  night, earlier this morning. You want to call it that?
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  He's been signed as far back as WrestleMania.
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  Right. Who's signing me?
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  He's no, he's been signed as far back as February and March.
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  I might have to go grab. Fuel.
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  I just got to go to the right about that.
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  Yeah, They said he's been signed as far back as March.
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  And what he was doing was filling out fulfilling his
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  contractual obligated dates with New Japan because he was signed
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  as when he was still 1/2 of the New Japan tag team champions,
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  the heavyweight tag team Champions.
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  So he's been signed as far back as then, which means he's had
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  plans to leave Japan for a while.
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  I mean, there really wasn't a whole lot left for him to do.
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  As you guys could tell, we got new microphones so you can hear
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  us better. He would have had to actually
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  win the I think the only thing he would have really had to do
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  was win some singles gold. But he knew that's probably his
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  cap in Japan was probably only for tag team gold.
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  So he decided to, you know, take his talents back to the States
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  because he's been in Japan for Jesus.
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  Got to be like 15 years now. He's been over in Japan, right?
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  The only time he was ever in the States and he wore a mask when
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  he was in the States. Right.
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  Yes, he. Did when he worked for he
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  mainstream TV in the States, he wore a mask and he worked as
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  Matanzo Cueto for Lucha Underground when they filmed in
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  California. And then he did obviously the
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  independent shows here in the States.
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  Not very many of them know because he was doing so much
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  over in Japan, but he was he was loving it in Japan.
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  He was making good money over there.
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  But it was time for him to come home.
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  You know, it's time for him to come back to the States and,
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  and, you know, reaffirm his his legitimacy with the big
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  companies. Right, right.
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  So. And then after the the four way
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  match that Jacob retained, you had, you had that match, you had
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  Penta and Dom Pat and Gunther, you had the main event of John
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  Cena and Randy Orton. And then there's one match I'm
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  forgetting, but Becky Lynch, Becky and Lyra.
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  Yep. Yes.
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  Becky and Lyra. There it is.
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  That was it. You're welcome.
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  Yeah. You had Becky and Lyra.
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  You had. Yeah, you had Becky and Lyra,
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  which was a great match. Just all that was really was to
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  tell a story to continue their their rivalry.
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  I think that's going to turn out to be a really good one.
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  I don't know how long they're going to drag it out.
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  Lyra snuck one in on Becky. That was for that.
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  I think the belt was actually on the line.
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  Yes, it was. She snuck one in.
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  So that's mentor versus student. Well, and the other thing with
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  the the men's match, I think they said Drew got hurt when he
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  took the fall from heaven from Damian onto the table.
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  Drew's head missed the table and smacked the concrete, so he had
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  to go get checked out for that one, too.
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  And then after Becky and Lyra was Penta and Dom.
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  Excuse me? Yes.
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  No, thank you. Yeah, I'm in the middle of doing
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  something. I'll have some bacon.
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  Yeah, Penton Dom was another. If my daughter wants to know if
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  we want bacon and eggs. I mean, that match was
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  fantastic. I won't lie.
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  Penton Dom was very good. I was very impressed of the
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  showing of Dom because they don't, you know, they don't
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  normally give him all that time. They don't normally give him a
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  chance to go in by himself. You know, he's normally got to
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  have however many people behind him or interfere, but lately
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  what they've been doing is they've been having him have his
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  people interfere the judgment day and they've been getting
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  caught. Yes.
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  So, you know, they're giving him a chance to defend the title on
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  his own. And he really is.
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  He's he's holding his own, which a lot of people didn't think he
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  could do, but I think WrestleMania kind.
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  Of well, I mean, let's, let's get it straight.
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  He's Eddie Guerrero's son. Well, yeah, but let's, you know,
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  you know, you got to go back to mania and that'll really tell
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  you that he can, he can hold his own.
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  Eddie Guerrero's son, you know. He hung with he hung with Braun,
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  he hung with Penta. And who was the 4th person that
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  Mania? I forget Finn.
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  Yes. He hung with all those guys at
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  WrestleMania in the far way on the big stage.
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  So now let's let's, let's talk about, let's talk about
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  something. Let's talk about the releases.
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  Well, I want to finish covering. Oh, you want to finish covering
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  this week? Yeah, I didn't watch wrestling
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  this week, guys, because I'm a hard working.
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  Man, I'm in the middle of. I'm a hard worker, so, you know,
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  I, I got to be in bed early because I, I'm in the I work
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  hard for a living backlash. I work hard for a living.
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  We covered the releases last week.
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  So I weren't no, there's there was more after that.
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  There wasn't that many more they released most of them last.
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  Year just so y'all know I'm a hard worker.
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  I'm I work hard, you know, I work harder than I ever did
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  before. Listen, on that note, guys,
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  we're going to take a quick break and then when we come
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  back. Take a break, it's all 11/15.
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  We'll finish covering. Play the Mac attack.
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  You got that one. Yeah, I'm just looking to see
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  what else is on here. So when we come back from break,
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  we'll be playing the we'll be talking all about the rest of
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  the Backlash card and then moving on to maybe some releases
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  in MLW. Remember Me yo, what is up?
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  What is up yo, Happy fun day, Happy Sunday.
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  Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers out there, all you
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  single fathers and all y'all moms.
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  And I say moms because you know, some people have two moms, some
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  people have two dads. So happy Mother's Day to
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  everybody out there. Hope y'all are having a great
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  day. We're enjoying the weather out
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  here in New York. It's fucking beautiful.
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  You know I got work tomorrow so hope everybody enjoys.
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  Oh wait, no, do I have work? No, I go back to work tomorrow.
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  Oh, he goes back to work. I'm retarded so I don't have to
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  work tomorrow. And I also this week I have to
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  take a little time out maybe tomorrow night when I get home
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  and I got to update the Spotify. So just so y'all.
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  Know that that's been that's been my fault.
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  Our guest from last week. I already told them.
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  Couldn't make it because he doesn't get up early in the
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  morning. I told him we're going to film
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  the interview and put it out. And we also have another special
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  guest coming on that I'm not going to tell you who it is yet.
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  Oh, but he's been in movies. I already did that.
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  Oh, so he blew up my spot. This is why I can't say a
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  fucker. Yeah, I can't.
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  He can't keep. Secrets.
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  You do it to me all the time. He can't keep fucking secrets,
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  this guy. You do it to me all the time.
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  Scott can't keep fucking secrets.
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  Yeah, I kind of already did that.
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  Well I do have a secret coming and he don't even know yet
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  because they're emailing me, not the podcast page.
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  I told him about La Rosa Negra too, that they're going to be
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  coming on too. What the fuck?
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  Sorry. See, that's why I have one more
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  secret and I'm not even telling you until you finish.
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  E-mail probably already told me. No, I didn't.
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  And I also. Just had because I just got the
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  e-mail. I just and it sent it to my
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  e-mail, not your e-mail. Well, they said if it goes to
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  the podcast e-mail, that's our e-mail.
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  It's not going to that. E-mail it.
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  Should all go to the podcast. No, no, no, no.
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  When I want a secret, I send them to my.
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  E-mail. You can't even keep secrets that
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  I tell you. What secret did you tell me that
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  you were getting a sex change? No, I've told you secrets about
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  multiple guests coming on. The first thing you do, we get
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  on the air, guys, guess what? We have next week and you blow
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  it up right away anyway. So I don't know.
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  The secret is your secrets are out, Blop.
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  No, I mean I. Was shout out to my man Coop.
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  I was definitely. We need to have cigar Army on
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  again. You heard?
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  We'll come up to the lounge of film.
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  We got 4 microphones now so it's going to be good.
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  I definitely. There's definitely some stuff
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  that I loved. Last night's show though, was
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  was fantastic. I thought it turned out great
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  after. I mean they let and the Pat
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  McAfee match was. That was tremendous.
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  That was actually really good. They didn't, they didn't let
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  Gunther squash him. You know, Pat, actually.
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  Pat is actual wrestler. They actually let Pat put up a
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  fight. He's an actual wrestler.
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  Fiona don't know he is an actual wrestler.
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  When he retired in nine years ago, he bought a ring, put in
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  his house and started training. So Pat is an actual wrestler.
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  Don't don't sleep on that man. That man will fucking powerbomb
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  you, slap you like a bitch. I'm just saying he ain't going
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  to slap me a potato. No, he, he did a hell, he showed
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  out last night and he kind of put on for all the announcers.
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  You know that, you know, those guys, they're not going to sit
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  there, let them bully them and and whatever they called it, you
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  know, do all those things to them and you know, they're
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  actually going to defend the announcers honor.
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  Now for those who didn't see, I don't know if anybody picked up
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  on Pat's jersey he wore last night because if anybody
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  remembers the promo he cut on Raw when he called Gunther out,
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  he said that he was one loyal mother fucker.
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  And if you look what the bad back of his jersey said, they
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  put letters there and they spelled it completely different
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  so they can sell the jersey. And on the side up here the
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  patch says loyal till. I'm in the soil Now.
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  I think that's going to be a great marketing ploy if they
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  actually sell it because a lot of people will buy that, myself
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  included. But that, that match was
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  freaking awesome. Gunther shook Pat's hand at the
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  end of it. I don't think this is the end of
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  Gunther and Pat. I think you get a little bit
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  more out of that. And then after that you had the
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  main event, Randy Orton and John Cena.
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  That match was. That match was actually.
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  Sorry guys, I'm I'm forwarding the the.
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  Yeah, I haven't even done that yet.
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  That match was. I'm doing that.
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  Absolutely fantastic. It see they only had five
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  matches. That's why it wasn't as long and
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  always could have been better because they only did five
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  matches. First of all, it's not a
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  pay-per-view. It's on Netflix, motherfucker.
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  No, it was a pay-per-view. That was a pay-per-view.
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  It's on Netflix. No, it's on Peacock where all
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  their stuff is. It was only on Netflix
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  internationally. But no, I mean, the pay-per-view
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  there wasn't. The only thing they might have
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  been missing was a title, A tag team title match, you know, put
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  maybe put the street Profits on there, something like that.
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  I mean that that could have been added for sure.
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  Even the New day defending the belts.
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  I mean, it's, I think the show wound up being very good
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  overall, from top to bottom, I think it was very good.
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  You know it could know everything could always be
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  better. See, now this is a real cigar
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  smoker. Guys, that's a real cigar
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  smoker. You got a 80 ring in his mouth.
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  You know, it always could have been better.
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  It always could be better, but there's always room for
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  improvement. But I think I think that show
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  told a lot of stories is what it did.
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  You know, it it it showed at the end of the John Cena and Randy
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  Orton match. You know, John lost clean or
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  John won clean. So I didn't win clean.
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  Randy lost. Yeah, it kind of see, well, see
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  our truth, our truth didn't ruin it only because on Saturday
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  night's main event, I believe coming up, it's supposed to be
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  John Cena and R truth for the title.
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  So it kind of it kind of makes sense he came out because what
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  they're doing is planting the seeds to go into that that
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  match. Now Cena, yes Cena is battling
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  himself because last night he got the thank you Cena chance
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  after he walked. Out of the rain.
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  So here's here's the thing. So I don't know if you watched
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  the interview after after pay-per-view.
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  So our truth came out and he goes, John, that was really
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  great what we did, right? That was really good.
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  He goes, that was really good what we did.
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  And he goes our truth, you interfered in my match.
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  He goes, yeah, but that was really good.
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  He goes, that was really good. And that's all he kept saying.
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  So shout out to our truth. That guy don't need a, he don't
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  need a pop. He don't need anything because
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  that man shows up on anything. And he goes, he could look at
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  Hulk Hogan and go, Oh my God, look at Sid Vicious, and he just
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  gets the pop. That's the way it works.
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  So, yeah, so like I was saying, they're going to go out at
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  Saturday night's main event. But Cena battling his himself
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  now is kind of the the thing because he started out as a heel
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  and now people love him. He got the thank you Cena chance
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  last night after the match. You know, he kind of stood
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  outside the ring and you could see that he wanted to go back in
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  and and give a thank you speech to everybody.
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  And, you know, he kind of had to fight himself and and.
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  Realize, but he can't because the rock didn't have permission.
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  That rock storyline is done. The rock owns him.
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  That rock storyline is done. But the rock.
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  Owns his soul. No, he doesn't anymore.
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  That's done. There's no other plans for the
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  Rock to be involved. Because the Rock is making
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  friggin there's. No, there's no other plans for
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  him to be involved. That the only guy that can show
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  up to a paper that whenever he. Only that was the only time he
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  was ever supposed to be involved was for Cena to turn heel.
• 29:16
  And that's it. There's no other.
• 29:18
  Guy that can show up whenever he wants.
• 29:20
  There's no other. There's no other thing to do.
• 29:23
  He has more. He has more stocks than the
• 29:25
  regular owner. He, he, he's done now.
• 29:29
  There's no, there was no other storylines.
• 29:31
  There was no other plans in the storylines to progress.
• 29:33
  That he has more stocks than what it.
• 29:35
  Was it happened and now seen as a heel?
• 29:38
  I, I think by the time he, he leaves, maybe he's a babyface or
• 29:44
  he's going to be that heel that everybody loves to hate or hates
• 29:48
  to love, depending on how you look at it.
• 29:51
  So it's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see what
• 29:54
  they do with him. And you know, I'm, I'm a fan of
• 29:59
  it. I like it.
• 30:01
  I think it's going to be great. It's great for everybody.
• 30:04
  Right. You know, it's, it's great for
• 30:09
  everybody, for everyone involved in that.
• 30:12
  It's going to be interesting to see where they go.
• 30:14
  I think personally, before he leaves, you see him, I think you
• 30:24
  see him and Randy one more time and I think he wins.
• 30:30
  Randy wins it in my opinion. I think Randy wins and Cena
• 30:36
  drops the belt to Randy on his way out.
• 30:38
  Not that not that he needs it, but I think that's how they they
• 30:44
  do it. I think Randy gets the belt on
• 30:46
  Cena's way out and becomes 15 times.
• 30:48
  Right. I think that's how I do this.
• 30:55
  Well, we'll see what happens. I mean, you know, I mean, let's
• 31:03
  be honest, WWE is going up now because they bought ML, whatever
• 31:10
  the hell is that shit is. AAA.
• 31:13
  Yeah, so. Well, yeah, then they're doing
• 31:19
  the. Then you have the show in June
• 31:24
  for CML, for AAA and NXT, for Worlds Collide.
• 31:32
  Then you have, what do you say? Damn freaking notifications.
• 31:40
  You're probably right with Cena dropping it to Cody or to Randy
• 31:43
  at some point because I believe they're setting it up for Cody
• 31:45
  to come back as a heel. It's possible maybe he comes
• 31:50
  back as a heel, who knows. I definitely think Cena drops it
• 31:55
  to Randy because if he doesn't if he doesn't drop it to Randy,
• 32:01
  the only other person I see him dropping it to and because they
• 32:05
  set it up at the chamber would be Punk.
• 32:09
  That's the only other person I could see him dropping it to on
• 32:11
  his way. Out that could be.
• 32:14
  Unless Cody comes back and Cody gets the big pop and he
• 32:19
  dethroned Cena on the way out the door.
• 32:22
  That's also a possibility. You know they can, they can go a
• 32:25
  lot of ways with this. Hell, I mean they could even
• 32:28
  have our Truth beat him at Saturday.
• 32:29
  It's main event. Make our Truth world champ
• 32:33
  possibility. I mean, do I think that's going
• 32:35
  to happen? No, because I don't think he
• 32:36
  wants it. Our truth don't need it.
• 32:39
  He's over. He's over what?
• 32:41
  He's acting the way he. Is he's, he's held a belt, you
• 32:46
  know. He's held the hardcore title
• 32:49
  like. No, not only that, he he's held
• 32:53
  the N.W.A championship. He's held probably one of the
• 32:56
  most prestigious championships in the business that ever
• 33:00
  existed. He's been doing this fucking 40
• 33:02
  years. Nobody realizes our truth is
• 33:06
  like almost 60 years old. You know he.
• 33:11
  He's like 60 years old. You don't need a whole that old.
• 33:14
  Yes, he is. I'm gonna look it up right now.
• 33:16
  I'll let you know. I don't think he's that old.
• 33:18
  I could be wrong. I'm gonna.
• 33:19
  Look it up right now. I didn't think he was that old.
• 33:21
  I think he's in his late 40s, maybe early 50s.
• 33:25
  No, because he's been wrestling with Jerry Law.
• 33:32
  Memphis was still a thing in the late 90s, early 2000s. 53 years
• 33:36
  old. Yeah, he's early 50s.
• 33:39
  He's. 53. Yeah, he's early 50s, so he's,
• 33:45
  he's a, he's got quite a while to go 'cause he still keeps his
• 33:48
  body in good shape. You know, like Randy said last
• 33:53
  night, this is John's retirement, Tori said.
• 33:54
  I'm not limiting my my tour to dates, 27 dates left, he said.
• 34:00
  My retirement tours the next 5 to 10 years and I'm going to
• 34:02
  enjoy it every minute of it. And you know, I think by the
• 34:09
  time is all said and done, I think Randy probably ties John.
• 34:13
  Well. In world title reigns.
• 34:16
  Since R Truth is under WWE, he's held a Smack down brand under
• 34:21
  the ring name R Truth. Yeah WWE 2 times Tag titles,
• 34:24
  United States Championship and multi time WWE 24 Champion and
• 34:31
  two time WWF Hardcore Champion. He's like a 247 time 24/7
• 34:39
  champion. He has the most combined.
• 34:43
  He if you put all of his reigns together, he is the GOAT.
• 34:48
  GOAT, goat, GOAT. That's how you spell it, by the
• 34:54
  way. You know, so listen, there's
• 35:02
  coming out of that. There's a lot of ways they can
• 35:04
  go with this run. Who knows?
• 35:09
  I think if if Cena drops it, if he doesn't drop it to Cody, he
• 35:13
  drops it to Randy or Punk, in my opinion, because I think that
• 35:19
  would set up perfectly. Randy would probably set up,
• 35:25
  Randy winning the belt would probably set up better just
• 35:28
  because of the history and and you know, they came up together
• 35:34
  through OVW. Their careers have been on
• 35:37
  similar paths for the last two decades.
• 35:41
  I think Randy should win the belt and then retire.
• 35:44
  No, Randy said. He's got 5-10 years left.
• 35:47
  Well, that's up to his wife. No, it's up to him.
• 35:50
  Whenever his wife says cut it. He's not going to cut it because
• 35:53
  that Randy's still in good shape.
• 35:54
  Randy can still go so. Shit, I'm in the best shape of
• 35:58
  my life. Look at these fucking guns, not
• 36:00
  at. All look at these fucking guns.
• 36:01
  Look at these guns. I'm in the best shape of my
• 36:03
  fucking life. Try again.
• 36:04
  Shit, I could go another fucking 20 years in the wrestling.
• 36:09
  Business, but no Randy's got about he's, he's always said
• 36:15
  he's got about 5 or 10 years left.
• 36:17
  He's been saying that for the last year or two now that 5 or
• 36:21
  10 years. And just so you know, Randy
• 36:23
  always hangs out down the hill from my house at the hobo.
• 36:29
  You know he don't. He pretty much sticks to
• 36:32
  himself, you know, as far as. But if you see him, he will sign
• 36:38
  your autograph and take a picture.
• 36:40
  As far as like he doesn't really travel, he most of his
• 36:43
  travelling is done with the WWE. Well, he does travel back here
• 36:47
  because his wife's family's from.
• 36:49
  Here, Yeah. From Wappingers Falls, NY, thank
• 36:52
  you very much. But yeah, I mean, this coming
• 36:57
  out of backlash, there's a lot of places they can go.
• 37:00
  I think you see, excuse me, go at it quite a bit more.
• 37:04
  I think there's still more to become there.
• 37:07
  I think there's something with El Grande Americano and Penta
• 37:11
  coming out of that. Chad Gable.
• 37:15
  Because you know, he, he beat Phoenix, he cheated Penta out of
• 37:20
  the IC title. Chad Gable.
• 37:22
  So I think there's, there's a a story to be had there as well.
• 37:28
  You know, it's, it's a lot. There's a lot coming out of that
• 37:31
  pay-per-view for just a short amount of matches.
• 37:35
  And then after that, that ended at 9:45.
• 37:40
  I was in bed by 6:00. And then no, you weren't you.
• 37:43
  Well, you should have been in bed hours before that, but.
• 37:47
  Excuse me. I'm the father.
• 37:48
  You're the son. Thank you very much.
• 37:49
  Yeah, from the fact you couldn't keep your eyes open all day.
• 37:52
  Thank you very much. I'm the father, you're the son,
• 37:54
  right? Next question, please.
• 37:56
  Right. Next question, please.
• 38:01
  It wasn't really a question, it was a statement.
• 38:02
  So just so y'all know I am fully retired from the United States
• 38:06
  government so I have nothing to do all day.
• 38:10
  That's nice. So I sit home, I do the honey do
• 38:13
  list, and when I'm done with the honey do list at 3:00 in the
• 38:17
  morning, have nothing to do the rest of the day except pick him
• 38:21
  up. Pick the wife up, pick up the
• 38:24
  daughter, clean the house, do the laundry and then drop them
• 38:30
  back off to work. So that's what I.
• 38:31
  Do I usually take the car anyway in the morning?
• 38:33
  You don't even take me. Sometimes what I got nothing to
• 38:37
  do. Now I'm going back to work.
• 38:43
  Now I'm going back to work. So you ain't got to worry about
• 38:45
  it. I'll have my own car soon,
• 38:48
  within this week. Thank you very much.
• 38:52
  Next question. Then you had after that that
• 38:57
  ended at 10 O clock or 945. Yeah, that ended at 9:45.
• 39:03
  And then by the time that was over and and they showed at Cena
• 39:08
  leaving the ring, getting all the chance, it was almost 10.
• 39:11
  There was actually 10 O clock. So they started their press
• 39:15
  conference and then I switched over to YouTube and I started
• 39:18
  watching MLW Azteca Lucha from Chicago.
• 39:25
  That was actually a very good show.
• 39:26
  Like I said earlier for all of you lucha libre fans, I told him
• 39:31
  we were smoking that earlier. So that's what we were both
• 39:33
  smoking. And it wasn't done on purpose.
• 39:41
  For all of you lucha libre fans, I suggest you go look you go
• 39:46
  check that show out because that show was very good.
• 39:49
  They always put on a good show. MLW, especially now that they're
• 39:54
  working with CMLL as a partnership, It's it's.
• 39:57
  So what I'm hearing through the Grapevine is that Alberto Del
• 40:04
  Rio may be coming back to WWE. So I know what you're talking
• 40:09
  about. He's not.
• 40:10
  They're not sure about. That yes, what happened is just
• 40:15
  like Paige no when they got bought it when they bought WCW
• 40:26
  and everything they're assuming the contracts they're not
• 40:30
  signing those guys they're not signed to WWE.
• 40:33
  They're signed to AAA contracts, they're not signed to WWE.
• 40:38
  I'm. Just saying, they said that
• 40:40
  Alberto Del Rio's in in talks with Triple H right now.
• 40:44
  Alberto Del Rio's been in talks for the last 10 years since he
• 40:47
  got released and every time he says there's talks, there's
• 40:50
  never talks, they come flat out and say he's not talking.
• 40:53
  Since he's done the porno. He that wasn't him.
• 40:56
  He, he beat women. They don't.
• 40:59
  They don't want that there. I don't want it there either.
• 41:02
  But he's he's signed to a AAA contract.
• 41:05
  They're only assuming contracts. They're not AAA.
• 41:08
  They're still under the AAA banner.
• 41:09
  They're still under the AAA contracts.
• 41:11
  They're not signed to WWE contracts.
• 41:14
  Alberto's not coming back. I'd be surprised if they if they
• 41:17
  brought him back. Bring him back and just let him
• 41:20
  be a fucking jobber. That's really what he was to
• 41:22
  begin with. It's really what he was to.
• 41:26
  Begin with fucking jobber. Well, that's, that's really what
• 41:30
  he was. That's exactly what he was.
• 41:37
  So, so listen, we're going to take a quick commercial break,
• 41:39
  guys. We've been talking for a little
• 41:42
  while now. We'll be back.
• 46:09
  Yo, what is up? What is up?
• 46:10
  Yo? Happy Sunday, Happy Fun Day,
• 46:12
  Happy Mother's Day to all you people out there.
• 46:14
  Yo, this is turnbuckles and stogies with your host, with the
• 46:18
  most the big dog, the producer, the vanilla gorilla, you heard.
• 46:25
  We are back and we hope everybody's having a great
• 46:28
  Mother's Day. And if you're got partners, 2
• 46:32
  moms, 2 dads, Mother's Day to y'all too.
• 46:35
  Yep, I said, see your parents, whoever you used to celebrate
• 46:38
  this day, Happy Mother's Day, correct?
• 46:40
  From us. It covers all the bases,
• 46:43
  correct? You know, everybody's situation
• 46:45
  is different, so. My situation is different too.
• 46:48
  I don't have a mother, So what are we going to talk about
• 47:01
  today? I'm I'm going to kind of talk a
• 47:05
  little bit about what I saw on I didn't watch all of the MLW
• 47:13
  show. I just seen a clip with Matt
• 47:17
  Riddle and die Jack for the belt last night.
• 47:25
  It's the clip is kind of it's not.
• 47:30
  Doesn't look good for the promotion so to say.
• 47:33
  OK. But we all know, you know as
• 47:36
  well as I do, things happen, people mess up.
• 47:40
  They don't hit, you know, they don't hit the ring the right
• 47:43
  way. Correct it.
• 47:45
  It just it looks sloppy. OK, Did they wipe their feet
• 47:49
  when they got in? Everybody does in that company,
• 47:52
  OK, But it's not even that it's it's the way somebody went to
• 47:55
  get in the ring. It looked kind of sloppy.
• 47:58
  OK. People are shitting on it, but
• 48:01
  it's, it's people who, and, and I'm not saying this in a bad
• 48:05
  way, but it's people who just react and review, OK?
• 48:08
  They don't really. They don't know that sometimes a
• 48:11
  big man isn't supposed to slide under under the bottom rope.
• 48:15
  Right. You know, sometimes big men
• 48:17
  don't have enough gas to get themselves up and through.
• 48:21
  Right. It just looks sloppy.
• 48:24
  It just looks sloppy. I'll pull it up so you can see
• 48:28
  what I'm talking about and then you can kind of give your what
• 48:34
  you think. Where is it?
• 48:37
  Let me see I just had it pulled up.
• 48:40
  That's why they said this is how you want to sell the promotion
• 48:45
  to people, but I I didn't see it that look.
• 48:51
  I'm going to show you here. I, I don't, I don't think it was
• 48:55
  sloppy. Look, it, it shit happens.
• 49:00
  Watch. You don't slot under the.
• 49:02
  Ring. But you see what I'm saying?
• 49:03
  It's yeah, you don't slot. Under the ring.
• 49:04
  But it's not, they said everything was sloppy.
• 49:07
  It's it's not sloppy. It yeah, you don't slot under
• 49:10
  the ring. He was a big dude trying to
• 49:12
  slide in and he right, Most big guys can.
• 49:14
  But it didn't. It just wasn't right.
• 49:18
  Right. You know what I mean?
• 49:20
  Like it just right. It's not sloppy to the extent if
• 49:24
  it looks it, it looks bad, but it's it happens.
• 49:29
  It happens in every company. I don't think I ever slit under
• 49:32
  the ring. I don't think I ever slit under
• 49:34
  the rope. But it's not even, you know,
• 49:35
  people are. All look like me, a fat dude.
• 49:38
  You don't slot under the rope, you run, you jump up and you
• 49:41
  fucking go over the rope. But people were saying, you
• 49:43
  know, it looks like the. Fuck is wrong with?
• 49:45
  Y'all it didn't look. It really didn't look that bad
• 49:48
  honestly. It just, it sometimes when that
• 49:51
  happens and you've been there, you know, once one thing
• 49:55
  happens, it just kind of. All you know what it is.
• 49:58
  It all spirals a little bit. You know what?
• 50:00
  It is, and I'm going to tell you this from a from a wrestling
• 50:03
  point of view. So a lot of these people that
• 50:08
  come into the business now think that they're and I've had this
• 50:14
  happen several. Times what I'm going to preface
• 50:17
  that guy with his he came up through N.W.A and through wild
• 50:22
  side with Bill Barron's. Yeah.
• 50:24
  So he was properly you can say he was properly trained and
• 50:27
  everything, right, because he came up through that that same
• 50:30
  wild side circuit that AJ came through Air Paris came through
• 50:34
  Shannon Moore, all those guys down there, they all came
• 50:36
  through that circuit. What, So just just for the
• 50:39
  people, just for the people watching the guy that they're
• 50:43
  saying was sloppy, was art? We had come up through the N.W.A
• 50:46
  circuit. You know.
• 50:48
  No, I'm just, I'm just saying he was properly trained.
• 50:50
  It just shit happens. But The thing is this, you come
• 50:56
  up through the training from them.
• 50:57
  I've been trained by Pete McKay, Johnny Rodds, after the Wasp,
• 51:02
  Simone, Samuel Rakishi. You got to come up with your own
• 51:07
  way of getting in the ring. And he normally goes up and
• 51:10
  over. So why did he go under the under
• 51:13
  the rope? I have no idea.
• 51:14
  That was the stupidest move 'cause it did look sloppy.
• 51:18
  And I'm not saying coming from a wrestling point of view, it did
• 51:20
  look, I'm not saying. And when he came in the back, I
• 51:22
  would have said, yo bro, that shit was sloppy.
• 51:24
  As a fuck. I'm not saying it didn't look
• 51:26
  sloppy, but what I'm saying is we all know shit happens.
• 51:31
  You're fucking get caught sliding in on the apron.
• 51:34
  Your foot might get caught on the, you know, under the ring
• 51:36
  apron. You know what I mean?
• 51:37
  It it's just they're saying it looks sloppy because this that
• 51:41
  and the third. But realistically you don't know
• 51:44
  if if he slipped on something getting.
• 51:46
  In Should I smoke another cigar? It's up to you.
• 51:49
  You don't know if he slipped on something getting in, you know,
• 51:51
  You don't know if he he slipped or his foot got caught.
• 51:55
  You know what I'm saying? Like there's there's so many
• 51:57
  different factors that we don't know because we weren't there
• 52:01
  and it's not our place to say all that looks sloppy that
• 52:04
  looked this it's. And who was that again?
• 52:06
  That was MLW. Which is the wrestler?
• 52:09
  That was Kruger. He's a new guy.
• 52:12
  No, he's not. He's been around a while.
• 52:15
  He's a new guy to me. He used to have, no, he used to
• 52:18
  not have a mask. You've seen him before.
• 52:21
  He's a new guy. No, you've seen him before.
• 52:23
  I'm going to tell you exactly where you saw him when we get
• 52:26
  off the air because I don't want to disgrace that promoter.
• 52:29
  Just tell me where you saw him. Or me.
• 52:31
  When we get off the air, I'll tell you exactly where you.
• 52:33
  Saw me now. Because you know the promoter,
• 52:36
  you work for the promoter, you have a lot of respect for him,
• 52:38
  and so do I. Is that magic?
• 52:40
  No, no, I will tell you though you and you'll see.
• 52:45
  You'll know exactly why when we get off the air and I tell you
• 52:50
  who he worked for under his other name, because you have a
• 52:56
  lot of respect for this guy. Jimmy, what's up?
• 53:00
  Jimmy, what's going on? Jimmy, what's up?
• 53:08
  James Allen, What are you doing? James Allen.
• 53:15
  Yeah. I mean, listen, people are
• 53:17
  saying that that's how you want to sell the company.
• 53:19
  You're taking one bad moment and saying that's the tape you want
• 53:23
  to use to sell the company. That's it's you take that one
• 53:25
  little bad moment, but you have to go back and look at the
• 53:27
  track. Record.
• 53:28
  Yeah, but once. Once you sell that bad moment,
• 53:32
  yeah, but once you put that bad moment on live TV, that shit is
• 53:37
  a wrap. ESPN, Pat McAfee, They're going
• 53:40
  to have a. Ball with it.
• 53:41
  No, actually, that stuff, their stuff doesn't usually make it.
• 53:43
  They're going to have a ball with it.
• 53:45
  Yeah, but you could say the same thing about WWE2 and AW and TNA
• 53:50
  and every promotion out there. I mean, really, it is what shit
• 53:54
  happens in this business. Yo fix your cattle and converter
• 54:00
  as soon as dragon. He has no muffler.
• 54:03
  That's what that is. Fucking moron.
• 54:06
  No, it they don't use that tape to sell the company because
• 54:10
  that's that's. Not yeah, I Mother's Day, mother
• 54:12
  fucker. That's that's not the tape
• 54:14
  they're going to show. That's got to be my brother.
• 54:16
  It is. Happy Mother's Day, mother
• 54:18
  fucker. That's exactly who that is.
• 54:21
  That's not. That's my, that's my brother,
• 54:23
  everybody. Yeah, that's who that is.
• 54:25
  That's not he. Said Happy Mother's Day, Mother.
• 54:27
  Fuckers. But no, listen that tape.
• 54:32
  It's just a highlight that they're going to show how Die
• 54:34
  Jack lost. Jim, you want to come on, we'll
• 54:36
  send you the link. That's it.
• 54:37
  It's just going to be how die Jack.
• 54:39
  Lost come on for 1/2 hour. You know, Die Jack, what they're
• 54:44
  basically saying is that's Matt Riddle gave Die Jack his first
• 54:47
  loss. But see, what people don't
• 54:49
  realize is they're taking that bad moment.
• 54:51
  What was in that moment, Matt Riddle essentially didn't beat
• 54:56
  him clean. See Die Jack got his first loss
• 54:58
  at MLW, but he wasn't beat clean.
• 55:01
  Doesn't matter. But he, but I'm saying still got
• 55:03
  his first loss, yes. But what I'm saying is now
• 55:06
  coming out of that, it's going to be I got hit with a briefcase
• 55:09
  and all this, and that's what it took to beat me.
• 55:11
  You couldn't beat me on your own as world champion.
• 55:14
  That's the thing. And that's what people need to
• 55:16
  take from that is it's the same thing you could take from the
• 55:19
  Cena match. Randy and Cena aren't done
• 55:21
  because he didn't lose clean. I agree.
• 55:26
  The same way Riddle and Die Jack aren't done because Riddle
• 55:29
  technically didn't beat Die Jack clean 'cause he got hit with a
• 55:32
  briefcase and and everything else and all this other stuff
• 55:35
  that happened. And that's exactly what it's
• 55:37
  going to be. It's going to be he didn't beat
• 55:38
  him clean. Jim, jump on with us.
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  Jim He. Said no, he didn't beat him
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  clean. And that's that's the biggest
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  take away is, you know, some of those big matches, the best way
• 55:50
  to extend it or, you know, run it back again to have him lose
• 55:57
  clean is to have him lose dirty, correct?
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  Or to have him win the belt is to have him lose dirty and then
• 56:03
  she cheat and win the bell dirty correct.
• 56:06
  You know, there's there's ways to do this, correct?
• 56:08
  And that's what people don't understand.
• 56:10
  And that's what the take away is from that entire 10 seconds of
• 56:14
  that match is die Jack didn't lose clean.
• 56:21
  Correct. He got hit with a briefcase from
• 56:25
  Kruger. Tom Lawler was there, he hit
• 56:27
  Kruger. Riddle didn't actually win
• 56:29
  clean, and it's not saying that Riddle can't win clean because
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  he can't. And that's the biggest take away
• 56:38
  from that match is that Die Jack is built up to be this big dude.
• 56:43
  He hasn't, and he's a hell of a wrestler.
• 56:46
  WWE dropped the well, they didn't drop the ball because he
• 56:50
  he was feeding information to the dirt sheets.
• 56:52
  So now let's talk about Westchester County Center coming
• 56:57
  up. That already happened.
• 56:59
  Oh, that happened already? That was last night.
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  I wasn't there. I didn't go.
• 57:04
  I was going to. Go.
• 57:04
  I can't tell you. I don't know what happened.
• 57:07
  Shout out to Romeo. I don't know what happened at
• 57:11
  that show. I didn't.
• 57:12
  I haven't seen any. I've seen pictures but I haven't
• 57:15
  seen any updates yet. So now let's talk about HCW.
• 57:19
  That's next weekend. Let's talk about that.
• 57:23
  Actually, all the belts are up for grabs.
• 57:26
  When are you coming on the podcast?
• 57:28
  The tag team titles are up for grabs in a steel cage with the
• 57:32
  Now and sent to Slaughter. The world title is on defense,
• 57:36
  Richard Holiday versus Matt Cardona.
• 57:39
  I believe there's a national championship that they created.
• 57:42
  So when they're coming on the podcast is question.
• 57:44
  The woman's belt and a couple other.
• 57:53
  Then there's a few other matches in there but it's I think Matt
• 57:58
  Riddles there real 1 Tommy Dreamers going into the hall of.
• 58:08
  Fame. Hall of Fame.
• 58:09
  For the National Watch. Which really, with all the stuff
• 58:12
  that's went on in that building wrestling wise, they really
• 58:15
  should have had a Hall of Fame years ago.
• 58:17
  Well, the National Watch know what they're doing.
• 58:20
  It should have been in there years ago.
• 58:21
  And that's that's the thing that, you know, like the ECW
• 58:24
  Arena does the the 2300 Hall of Fame, the Civic Center, and
• 58:29
  there goes your beer all over the computer.
• 58:32
  Sorry, I got it. I got it.
• 58:35
  I got it. I got it.
• 58:35
  I got it. My.
• 58:36
  Phone. Fuck.
• 58:40
  We're going to take a break, guys.
• 58:48
  We'll be right back. What is up What is up?
• 1:03:30
  MO fozo Yoho Schwitz the most, the big dog, the producer, the
• 1:03:36
  vanilla gorilla. We are back yo.
• 1:03:38
  Sorry for the little inconvenience but there was a
• 1:03:41
  fucking BI smacked it and my shit went all over the.
• 1:03:45
  B. You smacked the cane and missed
• 1:03:47
  the B completely. It is what it is.
• 1:03:50
  So be it. Next commercial break is in
• 1:03:53
  12/30. So that's the next commercial
• 1:04:03
  break, 12:30. That's the end of the show.
• 1:04:05
  Correct, unless we end it early. It's up to you.
• 1:04:11
  You're the boss. Well, we'll figure it out.
• 1:04:14
  I mean, it is Mother's Day today, so we'll see.
• 1:04:21
  We might cut it short today. I got to go see my daughter's
• 1:04:26
  dress for a prom. Got to go take care of that.
• 1:04:30
  You know, she's graduating less than 60 days, actually 54 days.
• 1:04:36
  So. So whenever the boss says it's
• 1:04:41
  over, it's over. I'm good with that, I'm game.
• 1:04:45
  So if you want to end it, it's up to you, son.
• 1:04:48
  I'm thinking about it. I don't know yet.
• 1:04:49
  We'll see. I mean, I'm trying to think of
• 1:04:50
  what else I got to cover. We have nothing else to cover.
• 1:04:52
  We cut of anything, so we are going to be dropping a show.
• 1:04:59
  We're going to record this week. The next two shows will
• 1:05:02
  probably. Be the next two shows are going
• 1:05:03
  to be recorded. The One Show he told you.
• 1:05:05
  I don't know if he told you you have a show yet.
• 1:05:08
  I said MC Shane and then I said La Rosa Negra.
• 1:05:16
  See, I got a surprise. So we have a famous DJ coming on
• 1:05:20
  too. We ain't gonna say that now,
• 1:05:22
  but. And then I told him about the
• 1:05:24
  other guy. But I don't we don't have a date
• 1:05:25
  set for. Him.
• 1:05:26
  The other guy. The guy from breaking this.
• 1:05:37
  Fucking guy. He he don't know how to keep
• 1:05:39
  secrets. No people asked what asked what
• 1:05:41
  we had coming up, so I told. Him you don't know how to keep
• 1:05:43
  fucking secrets. No, that's you.
• 1:05:45
  No, you don't know how to keep secrets.
• 1:05:47
  Scott, though, shut the fuck up. I said that I told him that way
• 1:05:50
  early this morning when we first started the show.
• 1:05:53
  So guys, we're going to have MC Shan, we're going to drop his
• 1:05:56
  show. We're going to have La Rosa
• 1:05:59
  Negra, who's a cigar company out of Syracuse, NY, Utica, Utica.
• 1:06:04
  We're just waiting on to set up a day with.
• 1:06:05
  Him. And then we're going to have
• 1:06:07
  Tony the Glove, who was in the movie Breaking.
• 1:06:10
  He's also a DJ and a famous producer.
• 1:06:13
  So there you have it, now that he let the cat out the fucking
• 1:06:16
  bag. The cat was out of the bag.
• 1:06:18
  Motherfucker. Earlier.
• 1:06:21
  So on that note, you motherfuckers have a great
• 1:06:24
  Mother's Day. Enjoy it.
• 1:06:25
  Day with your family. Go spend it with your family
• 1:06:28
  because now I got to go to the mall and check out my daughter's
• 1:06:31
  prom dress and hang out with the kid.
• 1:06:36
  You guys have fun. We'll.
• 1:06:37
  Talk to y'all soon, maybe we'll do a pop.
• 1:06:39
  Up next week, who knows during the week, maybe we'll see.
• 1:06:42
  Let's do a pop up next week. We can do that.
• 1:06:44
  Now I'll see what I can do. So all right guys.
• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:54
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• 1:06:58
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• 1:07:02
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