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Very Straight Talk On This Great Salvation | 'Just How Are We Saved?' Pastor Michael Jakes (part 4) 10.6.26 · The Bible Speaks Live!

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  Speaker 1: Well, hey, praise the Lord. I am Michael Jackson. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to The Bible Speaks Live. This is our Hot Topic Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: We're glad you could join us here tonight as we continue.
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  Speaker 1: We've been gone for a few months, but we are
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  Speaker 1: here to continue in our series entitled Very Straight Talk
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  Speaker 1: on This Great Salvation. Amen. Amen. we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about and getting into a lot of different subjects
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  Speaker 1: concerning this salvation, this great salvation, as the book of
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  Speaker 1: Hebrews puts it. There's much to be talked about at
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  Speaker 1: some point in time. As we get into this series,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be talking about the vocabulary of salvation. But tonight,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to be talking about just how are
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  Speaker 1: we saved, just how we are saved. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be going over some material that we went over previously
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  Speaker 1: before our... hiatus, but that's okay. But we will definitely
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  Speaker 1: be getting into some things that I believe are worth
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  Speaker 1: our time, amen, because this great salvation is greater than
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  Speaker 1: we know. How saved are we, amen? And that's important
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  Speaker 1: that we understand just how saved we are and just
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  Speaker 1: how we got here, amen? And so it's very important
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  Speaker 1: that we understand these things as we get into this
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  Speaker 1: series tonight. We are streaming live over Facebook and YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: So God is moving. God is on the throne and
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  Speaker 1: we honor him and we trust him and we thank
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  Speaker 1: him for all that he is doing in our midst.
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  Speaker 1: We can gladly report that he is, our God is
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  Speaker 1: a miracle working God. Amen. And we honor him and
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  Speaker 1: we thank him for all that he is and for
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  Speaker 1: all that he has done. Amen. Alrighty. With all that said,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get right into, we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: right into the word of God here tonight. Let me
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  Speaker 1: just say that all of our podcasts or webcasts from
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  Speaker 1: here on in, will be on Spreaker.com. We're not live
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  Speaker 1: on Spreaker, but all of our webcasts will be on Spreaker.com,
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  Speaker 1: and they will be available there for download if you
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  Speaker 1: would like to listen in. If you would like to
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  Speaker 1: listen to these podcasts again, you'll be able to do
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  Speaker 1: so by going over to Spreaker.com and typing in my name,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jakes, Pastor Michael Jakes, or type in any one
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  Speaker 1: of the name of our programs, whether it's the Line
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  Speaker 1: by Line webcast, whether it's the Sunday Sermon Series or
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  Speaker 1: our Hot Topic Tuesday, just type in any one of
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  Speaker 1: those titles on Spreaker and that should bring us, bring
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  Speaker 1: you right to where we are. Amen. Alrighty. So having
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  Speaker 1: said that, we are going to pray as we always do.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get right into our study for this evening. Amen.
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  Speaker 1: So Lord, we bless your name. We honor you. We
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Lord, once again, you've given us the opportunity, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: to open up your word, Lord Jesus. It's not something
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  Speaker 1: that we take lightly, Lord. We know that your word
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  Speaker 1: continues to be a lamp unto our feet and a
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  Speaker 1: light unto our path, Lord Jesus. Lord, we know that
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  Speaker 1: we can do nothing without you, and I pray that
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  Speaker 1: as we are in your word tonight, that, Lord, you
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  Speaker 1: will speak, Lord Jesus, that you will have your way
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  Speaker 1: and draw those who need to hear these words to
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  Speaker 1: this place. Whether it's live, whether it's on the replay, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: even on Spreaker, Lord, draw those who need to hear
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  Speaker 1: what we are speaking about here at this time, Lord Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: We believe that it's timely. We believe it's what you
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  Speaker 1: would have us to speak at this time. So, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: we pray that you would have your way. Speak to
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  Speaker 1: our hearts and speak to those who will be under
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  Speaker 1: the sound of your word here at this time. Lord,
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  Speaker 1: we bless you. We thank you. In Jesus' name, amen
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  Speaker 1: and amen. Well, hallelujah. Amen. God is good. Amen. God
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  Speaker 1: is very good. He is so good. Amen. Alrighty. As
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  Speaker 1: I said, some of this material we previously spoke about
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  Speaker 1: several months ago, a couple of months ago. And so
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a little bit of a refresher,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a refresher for those of you
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  Speaker 1: who were with us. If you were not with us,
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  Speaker 1: then you will be hearing some of these things here
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  Speaker 1: for the first time. But here's what I know. It's
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  Speaker 1: never the same. It's never the same. When you, quote,
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  Speaker 1: do something that you've done before, it's never done the
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  Speaker 1: same way. I found that to be very true because
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  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit works in a different way every time.
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  Speaker 1: You put one scripture verse in front of you and
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  Speaker 1: you believe that it's all going to come out the same. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. No, it's not. So that's what we believe
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the case here at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time. though we have gone over these things previously,
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's like the first time. For me, it
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  Speaker 1: is like the first time, amen? All righty, so as
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  Speaker 1: I said, tonight, we're going to be talking about very
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  Speaker 1: straight talk on this great salvation and just how, just
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  Speaker 1: how are we saved, amen? That's the topic. And when
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  Speaker 1: you get right down to it, here's what we know, okay?
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this great salvation. And once again, we've
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  Speaker 1: tried to make this as interactive as possible for those
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  Speaker 1: who are watching. And so you can follow along with
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  Speaker 1: what you see on the screen. I may not go
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  Speaker 1: word for word with what is on the screen, but
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  Speaker 1: know that everything that's being said has merit and has
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  Speaker 1: meaning and is based on what you are seeing. So
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about this great salvation today. and its nature.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're going to be looking at just how
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  Speaker 1: we received this great salvation. Uh, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be getting into the weeds. Okay. Uh, but there are
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  Speaker 1: some things that you may not know about this great salvation. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, as doctrine, uh, we have what we
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  Speaker 1: call non-essentials and non-essentials are just that. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: believers do not agree on any one of them, the
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  Speaker 1: non on the non-essentials. And we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about the non-essentials, uh, And there should be no problem
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  Speaker 1: because they don't affect our salvation. That's why they are
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  Speaker 1: called non-essentials, okay? There's something that someone once said many,
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  Speaker 1: many years ago. It may have been Augustine. It may
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  Speaker 1: have been someone else. But here's what they said. They said,
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  Speaker 1: in essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, charity. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say that again. In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty,
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  Speaker 1: but in all things, charity. And I think that is
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  Speaker 1: a very good mantra to go by when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to essentials versus non-essentials. But the fact is that we all,
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  Speaker 1: as believers, do not agree on the non-essentials because, once again,
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  Speaker 1: they don't affect our salvation. In other words, the non-essentials,
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  Speaker 1: they should not divide us. the body of Christ. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing now. Now, if we don't agree on
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  Speaker 1: the essentials, if we don't agree on those things that
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  Speaker 1: make us who we are as believers, as Christians in Christ,
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  Speaker 1: then we have a problem, okay? That matters, okay? If
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  Speaker 1: we cannot agree, if we as believers cannot agree on
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  Speaker 1: the nature of salvation and how we are saved, then
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  Speaker 1: that is actually highly problematic. And it's troubling. It's quite
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  Speaker 1: troubling when that is the case. And unfortunately, that is
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  Speaker 1: the case, okay? Now, the fact is that we, when
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  Speaker 1: we don't agree, we don't all agree on how salvation happens, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Is it through repentance? Is it through repentance alone? Is
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  Speaker 1: it through faith alone? Is it through both? Are we
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  Speaker 1: to say some sort of a sinner's prayer? Or is
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  Speaker 1: a sinner's prayer necessary at all? Now, I am sure
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  Speaker 1: that the Lord doesn't want us confused over these truths,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, let's talk about what the essentials are. The essentials, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Here are the essentials where there should not be There
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  Speaker 1: should not be, and I'm putting that in boldface in
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  Speaker 1: my speech, there should not be any discrepancy amongst believers
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to these things because they are essential, okay?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, that God's word, that God's word is,
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  Speaker 1: God's word is, it is inspired. By the Holy Spirit. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That means it is God breathed. And it is sufficient.
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  Speaker 1: It is sufficient. For all truth. We get that from.
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  Speaker 1: That's 2nd. 3 and 16 and 17. We won't go
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  Speaker 1: to the verse here. We got a lot of scripture
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  Speaker 1: verse to get into tonight. Number two, the deity of Christ.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, Christ is God. He is fully God
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  Speaker 1: and he is fully man. John 10 30 says, I
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  Speaker 1: and the father are one. That's just one verse that
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  Speaker 1: would prove that particular, this particular statement. So there should
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  Speaker 1: be no discrepancy concerning the deity of Christ. There should
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  Speaker 1: not be any believer in any denomination who comes out
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  Speaker 1: and says, Jesus is not God. That should not be
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  Speaker 1: the case. That is something that we all should be
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  Speaker 1: agreeing on. Okay. Third, salvation, and we've just mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: in the previous slide, salvation by grace through faith alone.
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  Speaker 1: There is no other way to get saved. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about some other ways that people have come
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  Speaker 1: up with, but it is salvation by grace through faith.
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  Speaker 1: Salvation by grace through faith. Ephesians 2, verses 8 and
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  Speaker 1: 9 say that specifically. For by grace are ye saved
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  Speaker 1: through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the
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  Speaker 1: gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
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  Speaker 1: So by grace through faith, we are saved. Amen. We
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  Speaker 1: are saved. There's no way around that statement. There is
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  Speaker 1: no possible way around that statement. The next statement that
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  Speaker 1: is an essential doctrine that all believers need to come
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  Speaker 1: together with is the fact that Christ rose again from
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  Speaker 1: the dead, okay? To say otherwise disqualifies you from being
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  Speaker 1: a Christian. There should be no such thing as a
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  Speaker 1: Christian who says, I don't believe, or any group of
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  Speaker 1: Christians who say, I don't believe that Jesus rose again.
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  Speaker 1: That disqualifies you. You cannot call yourself a Christian if
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  Speaker 1: you come to that conclusion. You are not saved if
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  Speaker 1: you believe that Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead.
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  Speaker 1: It's that simple. Amen. You cannot say that Jesus did
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  Speaker 1: not rise again. There are ample scriptures that tell us
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  Speaker 1: that Jesus Christ rose again from the dead. It is
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  Speaker 1: part of the gospel, which is the fifth thing here.
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  Speaker 1: It is the message that Jesus Christ died for our sins.
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  Speaker 1: He died. for all and he died for the sins
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  Speaker 1: of all okay we'll be getting into some of the
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  Speaker 1: weeds about that statement also as we move along uh
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  Speaker 1: in this uh in this series but suffice it to
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  Speaker 1: say that the message the message of the gospel uh
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  Speaker 1: we will find it in scripture and i want to
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  Speaker 1: find i want to find this scripture i didn't i
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  Speaker 1: should have uh looked for i should have uh gotten
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  Speaker 1: it uh before I came on, but let me find
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  Speaker 1: it right here, right now. Okay. Alrighty. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get it. I'm going to get it. I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I say this properly.
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  Speaker 1: And if I don't get it, it's okay. Alrighty. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So far, no good. So far, I'm not finding what
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  Speaker 1: I know that I am looking for. Okay. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to, Not going to take any more time
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  Speaker 1: to look for it. But once again, it's the scripture
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  Speaker 1: that very clearly states that Jesus Christ rose again from
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  Speaker 1: the dead, that he died and he rose again on
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  Speaker 1: the third day. That is the gospel. That is the
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  Speaker 1: gospel message. Everyone who is a believer has to believe
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  Speaker 1: that in every aspect. To say otherwise, once again, disqualifies
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  Speaker 1: you from being a Christian. Okay. Finally, monotheism okay uh
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  Speaker 1: one god in three persons and and we're talking that
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  Speaker 1: also comes in right there with the trinity okay now
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  Speaker 1: there are many uh not many there is a group
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  Speaker 1: there is a group of christians i will put that
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  Speaker 1: in quotation because many people call this group uh they
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  Speaker 1: they say that they are a cult uh because of
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  Speaker 1: what they believe concerning jesus uh they are the jesus
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  Speaker 1: only people and that is the denomination of Church of
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  Speaker 1: God in Christ. The Church of God in Christ does
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  Speaker 1: not adhere to the Trinity. They have a whole different
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  Speaker 1: thought and idea on the Trinity, that the Bible doesn't
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  Speaker 1: speak of a Trinity, the word Trinity is not in
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, that it is an invention that happened years
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  Speaker 1: after Christ had come and gone, No, the Trinity is
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  Speaker 1: in the Bible. Doesn't matter if the word Trinity is
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  Speaker 1: not in the Bible. The word Trinity describes the union
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  Speaker 1: between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, okay?
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  Speaker 1: These three are one, okay? They are not one another, okay?
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  Speaker 1: One God in three persons. They also have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with calling the Holy Spirit a person. because a person
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  Speaker 1: cannot be a spirit at the same time. We are
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  Speaker 1: called souls, okay? The Old Testament calls human beings souls,
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  Speaker 1: but we have bodies, but the scripture calls us souls, okay? Also,
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  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, we also have a soul and a
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  Speaker 1: spirit within us, okay? And we need to be mindful
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  Speaker 1: that Those who say that there is no Trinity, got
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  Speaker 1: to be careful about that because there is a Trinity
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  Speaker 1: that does exist, okay? And maybe we'll get into that also,
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  Speaker 1: those weeds a little bit later also, all righty? Now,
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  Speaker 1: what are the non-essentials? Non-essentials. Very quickly, the non-decentralized are
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  Speaker 1: those things, once again, as we said previously, those things
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  Speaker 1: that are not, I won't say binding because all scripture
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  Speaker 1: is binding, but there is no agreement. The last thing
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  Speaker 1: that we said, everybody agrees for the most part, for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, obviously excluding the church of God in
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  Speaker 1: Christ when it comes to the Trinity. And once again,
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  Speaker 1: they are on the fringe. They are on the fringe
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to that, okay? But these are the non-essentials,
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  Speaker 1: those things that seem to go either way, but it
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  Speaker 1: does not affect your salvation. Listen, if you don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in the Trinity, something's wrong. If you don't believe in
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  Speaker 1: the resurrection, you're not saved. If you don't believe the
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  Speaker 1: Bible is inspired by God, not the Bible contains the
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  Speaker 1: word of God, but that the Bible is in its entirety,
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  Speaker 1: the word of God, then once again, you're not saved.
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  Speaker 1: So those essentials, need to be believed by everyone who
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  Speaker 1: is a believer, who claims to be a believer. These
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  Speaker 1: are non-essentials. It's not that they are so much not believed.
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  Speaker 1: It's just also that they are not, there is no
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  Speaker 1: agreement on how it goes. For instance, eschatology. And when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about eschatology, we're talking about the end times.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about prophetic things. We're talking about, is there a,
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  Speaker 1: seven-year tribulation. Is there a rapture? Listen, some say, I've
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  Speaker 1: heard people say recently that if you don't believe in
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  Speaker 1: the rapture, then you cannot be saved. Well, I would
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  Speaker 1: disagree with that statement if you don't believe in a rapture.
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  Speaker 1: There are many Christians who don't believe in a rapture.
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  Speaker 1: They don't believe in a rapture, okay? They just believe
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  Speaker 1: that there's going to be The end's going to come.
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  Speaker 1: There's going to be a judgment. And they have a
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  Speaker 1: whole different way, a whole different understanding of the end times. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: A whole different understanding. And I can understand that. But
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  Speaker 1: that does not make them non-Christian if they don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in eschatology in the same way that we do. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Different views on creation. There are Christians who believe that
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  Speaker 1: the world as it is, is very young, 6,000 to 7,000
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  Speaker 1: years old. There are also those who believe in an
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  Speaker 1: old earth, that the earth is millions of years old.
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  Speaker 1: There are those who believe that there was another world
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  Speaker 1: before this world. Whatever the case may be, you can
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  Speaker 1: still be a born-again Christian and believe either one of those.
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  Speaker 1: A young earth, an old earth, a previous earth, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, you can still be saved, okay? we just
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  Speaker 1: have to learn how to get along with these different disagreements, okay?
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  Speaker 1: What Bible translation, whatever Bible translation you read does not
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  Speaker 1: disqualify you from being a Christian, okay? I read the
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  Speaker 1: King James Version. That is my version of choice. Almost
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  Speaker 1: nearly 100% of the time, that is the version that
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  Speaker 1: I read. The other version that I will read, other
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  Speaker 1: than the KJV, from time to time, I will look
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  Speaker 1: at the New King James Version. From time to time,
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  Speaker 1: I will look at the New American Standard Bible, but KJV,
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  Speaker 1: I would say nearly 99.9%. That's the version, my version
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  Speaker 1: of choice. Now that doesn't make me better than anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: If someone else wants to read the NIV, that does
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  Speaker 1: not make them unchristian if they read the NIV. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the NIV has some problems and the New King James
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  Speaker 1: Version has some problems and the NASB has some problems.
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  Speaker 1: All the versions, when I say problems, I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: necessarily it's not the word of God. But once again,
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  Speaker 1: the King James Version is just traditional. And once again,
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  Speaker 1: it's the wording. And that's just the version that I,
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  Speaker 1: as a Christian, grew up in. And that's the version
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  Speaker 1: that I've memorized scripture. And no other version for me,
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  Speaker 1: other versions don't, I'll use the word work. Other versions
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  Speaker 1: just don't work for me. For me. But if you
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  Speaker 1: want to read the NIV, or if you want to
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  Speaker 1: read the ESV, the English Standard Version, listen, listen. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't disqualify you from being Christian. Okay? If you read that, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're not a Christian, you read the NIV. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe that. I don't believe that for a moment. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: How about mode of baptism? That's another non-essential. Even though sprinkling, um,
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  Speaker 1: and pouring water over the head, those are not biblical.
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  Speaker 1: Those are not biblical, but there are Christians, legitimate Christians,
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  Speaker 1: who sprinkle. There are legitimate Christians who pour. But once again,
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  Speaker 1: biblically speaking, baptism is by immersion, by immersion. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: can say, now, because baptism, Because baptism itself is also
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  Speaker 1: a non-essential, not that it's something that should not be done.
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  Speaker 1: Baptism is something that should be done. Okay, water baptism
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  Speaker 1: is something that should be done by every believer. No doubt,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But if you have been sprinkled
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  Speaker 1: as a believer, or if you had water poured over
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  Speaker 1: your head as a believer, you cannot say that you
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  Speaker 1: have been baptized biblically. Biblical baptism is by immersion, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And scripture bears that out in several places, okay? The
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  Speaker 1: word itself, the word itself means to go under, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So baptism, baptism. But once again, there's no agreement. There's
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  Speaker 1: no agreement on how to baptize. Some, listen, some denominations
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  Speaker 1: baptize children. And of course they don't, I mean, babies.
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  Speaker 1: And of course you don't take a baby and dunk
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  Speaker 1: them underwater. You take a little water, you may pour
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  Speaker 1: a little adrenal water over them or sprinkle them. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But once again, biblically speaking, that is not the proper
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  Speaker 1: way to be baptized. Biblically speaking, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: stay with the Bible, okay, immersion. Secondly, that's another point
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  Speaker 1: of contention. Okay. Baptizing babies. For what reason would you
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  Speaker 1: baptize a baby? The first thing about baptism is baptism
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  Speaker 1: only happens when a person has been born again, saved, okay?
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  Speaker 1: When you are in Christ. Little babies, little babies, they're
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  Speaker 1: not saved. Little babies are not born again. Babies, babies, infants, toddlers,
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  Speaker 1: they are not born again. And so there's no reason
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  Speaker 1: to baptize them. Once again, There's no agreement on that,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a non-essential, okay? It is a non-essential.
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  Speaker 1: Worship styles, liturgical versus contemporary. Listen, there are denominations that
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  Speaker 1: don't play instruments in their church, don't have any music
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  Speaker 1: in their church because they say music is something worldly
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  Speaker 1: and it will sort of bring up the carnal side.
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  Speaker 1: So they don't have any music in their church. Is
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  Speaker 1: it wrong? I'm not going to say it's wrong, But
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  Speaker 1: if the people are saved in that church and they
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: don't want to play music, okay, the Bible says make
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  Speaker 1: a joyful noise unto the Lord. Okay, the Bible talks
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  Speaker 1: about horns and cymbals and all sorts of instruments. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing in the Bible that I see that disqualifies the
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  Speaker 1: use of instruments, the use of music. We have the
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  Speaker 1: whole book of Psalms, which is a song book, and
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  Speaker 1: those are meant to be put to music. They are songs.
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  Speaker 1: If a denomination or a church comes to the conclusion
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  Speaker 1: that music is not what they want, fine. Listen, as
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  Speaker 1: long as they are saved, if you are born again,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. If you are saved, if
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  Speaker 1: you have the spirit of God in your heart, in
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  Speaker 1: your life, that's what really matters, okay? Finally, the gifts
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  Speaker 1: of the spirit. Now, there is definitely no agreement on
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  Speaker 1: whether or not the gifts of the Spirit are still
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  Speaker 1: in existence. It is mainly those who are of the
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  Speaker 1: Pentecostal or charismatic persuasion that tell us that the gifts
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  Speaker 1: of the Spirit are for today. Tongues and prophecy, those
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  Speaker 1: who don't, and that is just about every other major
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  Speaker 1: denomination outside of Pentecostalism, will tell us that the gifts
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  Speaker 1: have all passed. Tongues, they go to the scripture verse
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  Speaker 1: that says tongues shall cease. But we believe, those who
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  Speaker 1: are of the Pentecostal persuasion, we believe that the gifts
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  Speaker 1: are still in existence today. But once again, if you
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  Speaker 1: never speak in tongues in your life, if you never
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  Speaker 1: seek after the gift of tongues in your life, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't disqualify you from being a Christian. You can still
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  Speaker 1: be a Christian today. and never and never in your
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  Speaker 1: life speak with tongues. Listen, now there are also aberrant
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  Speaker 1: views on tongues that are not biblical. Those who do
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: believe that unless you speak in tongues, you are not
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  Speaker 1: born again. Now that is absolutely unbiblical. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know where that type of understanding, I don't see
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  Speaker 1: anything remotely in scripture in the book of Acts or
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  Speaker 1: in any other book that would lead us to say
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  Speaker 1: that unless you speak in tongues, you are not saved, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone who speaks in tongues is already saved. Just like
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  Speaker 1: everyone who gets baptized in water should already be saved, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So once again, but once again, there is no agreement
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  Speaker 1: on these things. They are non-essential. If you don't believe,
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  Speaker 1: if you believe one way or the other, it is
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  Speaker 1: not going to move the pendulum in either direction concerning
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  Speaker 1: your salvation. If you're saved, you're saved. I believe in
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  Speaker 1: the young earth. I'm saved. I believe in the old earth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saved. I never spoke in tongues. I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in speaking in tongues. I'm saved. Yes, there are brothers
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  Speaker 1: and sisters in Christ all over the world who won't
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  Speaker 1: speak in tongues, who never will speak in tongues, who
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: have no desire to speak in tongues. I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: to say it like that, but that's how it is.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't believe it. They don't believe it, but
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  Speaker 1: that does not mean they are not saved. What can
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  Speaker 1: I say? They're still saved. And preferably, they will look
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  Speaker 1: at us and say the same thing. Even though they
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  Speaker 1: speak in tongues, if they are born again, then I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to still believe. Now, there's been some very harsh
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  Speaker 1: things that have been said over the years by some concerning, uh,
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  Speaker 1: those who speak in tongues and those who believe in
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  Speaker 1: the gifts of the spirit. The, uh, you know, there's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: been a, there've been whole entire conferences, uh, based on, uh,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Pentecostals and charismatic people and the entire movement from Azusa
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Street was not even real. There's a group that believes
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  Speaker 1: that too. And so they believe, many who are on
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the other side believe that Pentecostals and charismatics are the hardliners.
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  Speaker 1: They believe that Pentecostals and charismatics are not even Christians.
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  Speaker 1: That's a hard line. That is a hard line. and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that's not true, okay? That's not true, all right? All righty, now,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: what are some of the views on how we are saved, okay?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: What are some of the views on how we are saved?
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  Speaker 1: We looked at some of the essentials and some of
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  Speaker 1: the non-essentials. There are others, but we just chose those few, okay?
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  Speaker 1: What are some of the views on how we are saved, okay?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Some believe that we are saved only by faith. Okay?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And obviously what it says in Ephesians 2, 8, and 9,
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  Speaker 1: for by grace are you saved. We've already mentioned this verse.
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  Speaker 1: For by grace are you saved through faith and that
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  Speaker 1: not of yourselves. It is the gift of God, not
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  Speaker 1: of worthless any man should boast. We read Acts 16, 31.
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  Speaker 1: And they said, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: thou shalt be saved and thine house. Okay? These particular
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  Speaker 1: verses promise, they promise salvation to those who believe, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Showing the primacy of faith, okay? So faith is very
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  Speaker 1: much a part of the salvation process. Second, there are
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  Speaker 1: some who teach that salvation is only through repentance, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Repent ye in Acts 3.19, repent ye therefore, and be
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  Speaker 1: converted that your sins may be blotted out when the
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  Speaker 1: times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
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  Speaker 1: This would seem to say that all you need to
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  Speaker 1: do is to repent so that your sins can be
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  Speaker 1: blotted out and you are converted. Where's the faith? What
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: happened to faith? It's here, it says, repent, okay? Luke 13,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: three says, I tell you nay, but except ye repent,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you shall all likewise perish. This is Jesus talking to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the Pharisees. Unless you repent, you're going to perish. So
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: once again, this is talking about the importance of repentance.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: These verses underscore the necessity of repentance for salvation, indicating
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  Speaker 1: that without it, one cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
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  Speaker 1: And so we have faith. We have repentance. They are
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  Speaker 1: all involved in the salvation process. Next, There are some
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  Speaker 1: who teach that salvation is by water baptism. And this
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  Speaker 1: is what is commonly called baptismal regeneration. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: saved through water baptism. And they go to scriptures like
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  Speaker 1: Acts 22 and 16, which says, and now why tarryest thou?
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  Speaker 1: Arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins calling
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  Speaker 1: on the name of the Lord. Now, once again, I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to get too deep. I want to get
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: too deep, but it's necessary here for this verse. When
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we look at the sentence construction in the English, it
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  Speaker 1: gives you the impression that it's the water baptism that is,
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  Speaker 1: it is the water baptism that is going to wash
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  Speaker 1: an individual's sins away. That's the impression that the reading
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: in English gives you, in the King James Version at least. Now,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the actual sentence construction, the actual sentence construction says something
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: entirely different. I wrote it down. I wrote down what
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the sentence construction is in the Greek. And of course,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: am I going to be able to find it? Yes,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: here it is. Okay. All right. Here is this. Here
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: is the actual sentence construction in the Greek. If you
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: have a Greek lexicon, this is how it would read.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Having risen, be baptized and wash away your sins, having
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  Speaker 1: called on the name of the Lord. Some commentator says,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: having previously called upon the name of the Lord. Okay, now,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's talking about washing away your sins,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: It's talking about the fact that water baptism is symbolic.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Water baptism is a symbolic act. Now, once again, there
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: are those who believe differently on that also, but water
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: baptism is a symbolic act. Water baptism, there is no
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: power in water baptism. There is no power in the water.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: There is nothing, there is nothing outwardly spiritual that is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: happening or inwardly spiritual that is happening when you are
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: baptized in water. I've told many people, many people have
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: asked me over the years, young people, and when I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: get baptized in water, am I going to be different?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And I say, no, no, that's not the purpose of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: water baptism. There's no power in the water to change you, okay?
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to be transformed in any kind of
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  Speaker 1: a way. Water baptism is an outward show. Water baptism
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is an outward picture of what has happened to you inwardly.
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  Speaker 1: That's what water baptism is. It is telling others that
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  Speaker 1: you have been buried in sin and raised up in
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: new life. It's a picture of the washing away of
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  Speaker 1: your sins. It is a picture of the salvation process.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what this verse... Acts 22 and 16 is
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  Speaker 1: pointing to. It is not saying that your sins are
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  Speaker 1: washed away in the water. That is not what is
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  Speaker 1: in view there at all. Also in John 3, 5,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus answered verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a
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  Speaker 1: man be born of water and of the spirit, he
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Those who believe
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: in baptismal regeneration have grabbed onto that verse because they
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: say Jesus is saying, that you got to be born
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  Speaker 1: of water. Well, every one of us has been born
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of water. That's the physical side of we came through
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: water when we were born, okay? In mama's belly, we
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: are in water. And when it's time for her to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: give birth, that water, that sack breaks and here comes
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the baby in some time, okay? But so we're born
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of water and of the spirit. We're born physically, we're
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: born spiritually, okay? Unless that happens, unless you're born physically,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you cannot be born spiritually. You're never born, okay? So
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: he cannot enter, that person cannot enter in to the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: kingdom of God, okay? So once again, these passages seem
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to connect salvation with water baptism. And it seemed to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: be a command, okay? Or a condition or a symbol,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but Water baptism, once again, is symbolic. It's a picture, okay?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: It's a picture. Why did Jesus need to get baptized?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: That's another question I hear from time to time. Jesus
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  Speaker 1: had no sin, okay? Why did Jesus need to be baptized, okay?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: He needed to be baptized so he could be our example.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why Jesus needed to be baptized,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: because he showed us an example, uh, should follow. John
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: was baptizing everyone. Uh, and, and Jesus came forth also
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: to be baptized. That wasn't a, when people, John's baptism,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: what it was not a baptism of forgiveness of sins.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: John's baptism was a baptism looking forward to the one
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: who would come and the one who would come came
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  Speaker 1: and he got baptized. He was the one and he
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  Speaker 1: got baptized Jesus Christ. Amen. Um, So there you have
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  Speaker 1: it when it comes to water baptism. All righty? There
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: are some who believe and teach that salvation is through
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the keeping of the law. Okay? Now, the law of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Moses is consistently portrayed as the covenant and teaching given
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to Israel, which could not alone provide salvation. It didn't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: provide salvation at all. Salvation was and is through Jesus Christ.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: As the law points, the law points to Jesus Christ
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and reveals sin, but the law cannot save apart from Jesus. Yet,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: many believe and teach that the law plays a role
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  Speaker 1: in our righteousness. It does not. Okay, the law, Paul
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the Apostle called the law a ministry of death. Okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: he called it a ministry of death. Okay, because there's
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: no life in the law. Now, there's no life. The
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: law was meant to lead us to life, but the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: law was not life in itself. The law was a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: temporary stopgap measure until Jesus would come. Everything in the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: law points to Jesus. The law points to Jesus. All
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of those feasts, the things in the temple, everything, it
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: all pointed to Jesus Christ, amen? And that is important.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So keeping the law does not make one righteous. Keeping
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the law does not make one righteous, not at all, okay? Now,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this is on the fringe, but I only included this
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: because I've seen, I saw this happen. I was, spent
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a little time, spent a little time in the South
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: when I was younger. And I recall sitting in a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: church and the pastor invited folk to come up and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: join the church and become a member of the church.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: And that basically was their salvation, okay? This is a tradition.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: This is a church tradition. Tradition, okay? Giving the pastor
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: what they call the right hand of fellowship. And they
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: believe that that's sufficient for signifying a person's recognition as
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: part of a body of believers. But this practice, what
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: it does, is serve to promote a false sense of
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  Speaker 1: security for many. Okay? A false sense of security. I'm saved.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: How do you know you're saved? Well, I shook the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: pastor's hand. How ridiculous does that sound? How ridiculous does
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: it sound for somebody to say they are a believer,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: they are a Christian because they went to church and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they walked to the front and shook the pastor's hand? Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: If you think it still doesn't go on, yeah, it does.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: As ridiculous and aberrant as that sounds, it still goes
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: on today. All righty? So, the four primary elements are
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: involved Four primary elements are involved in our coming to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: new life in Christ. And they are deeply interconnected. Conviction, faith, repentance,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and confession. Okay? And we're going to spend a little time.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: This is actually where we left off a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months ago. This is where we left off. But we're
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: going to carefully, we're going to define each one. Okay?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: What does convict mean in the New Testament? To convict, okay?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: In the New Testament, the Greek word eleko, okay? And
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: once again, we're going to get into the Greek a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: little bit here. And its related forms are translated in
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: various English versions as convict, proof, okay? The term carries
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a legal meaning. connotation. The word convict has a legal
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: connotation and it means to bring to light. It means
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to expose or to prove guilty by presenting evidence and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: convincing or reproving someone of wrongdoing generally with a suggestion
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: of shame for the person convicted. Without the convicting power
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of the Holy Spirit, one cannot be saved, okay? Here's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit, okay? John 16, eight, okay?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: And when he is come, he will reprove the world
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: of sin and of righteousness and of judgment, okay? Spirit
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of God exposes sin. The Holy Spirit makes an individual
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: deeply aware, deeply aware of their moral, shortcomings and spiritual
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: shortcomings of course uh and their separation from god okay
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: reveals the need for christ the holy spirit reveals to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: an individual talk about unsaved individuals okay that's we're talking
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: about how we get saved revealing the need uh for
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: christ okay uh true conviction uh does more uh than
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: bring about guilt or shame it reveals uh their true
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  Speaker 1: need and points them directly toward the righteousness and mercy
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  Speaker 1: found in Christ. Once again, it cannot be any other way.
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  Speaker 1: Unless a person is convicted, they cannot be said to
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  Speaker 1: be saved, okay? And it induces repentance. By convicting the heart,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the spirit persuades or draws a person to turn away
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: from sin and self-reliance and place their trust entirely in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Jesus for salvation. Okay? That is the convicting ministry of
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit. Now, there are those, there are those
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: within the body who deny the convicting ministry of the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Holy Spirit as it pertains to believers. as it pertains
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to believers, those who are already Christian, there are those
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  Speaker 1: in the so-called grace movement who would tell us that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit does not convict us of sin, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit convicts us of righteousness, okay? No, no.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: They say that it is basically a sin to bring
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: up your sin to God. In other words, they indicate
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that you should not ask the Holy Spirit to forgive
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you of sin or ask Christ to forgive you of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: your sin when the Holy Spirit convicts you. Okay, why?
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Because they say that our sins are already forgiven, that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: our sins were forgiven when we were born again, all
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of our sins. All of our sins were forgiven to
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the point where we don't need to ask for forgiveness anymore. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.
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  Speaker 1: Don't believe that you don't have to ask the Lord
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  Speaker 1: to forgive you for sin anymore because all of your
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: sins have been forgiven. That is a lie. That is pure.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: That is pure false doctrine. Yes, we need to ask
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for forgiveness. And when the Holy Spirit convicts us and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: prompts us to ask for forgiveness, it's for a reason, okay?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It's for a reason, okay? So don't believe that you
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to ask God to forgive you. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we do. We still do need the Lord to forgive us,
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  Speaker 1: all right? What does confess? What does confess mean in
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  Speaker 1: the New Testament? In the New Testament, the English word
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  Speaker 1: confess literally means to speak the same thing as another person. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: The core idea is to agree or to assent. The
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  Speaker 1: context determines whether it refers to admitting guilt inward or outward,
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  Speaker 1: publicly declaring allegiance or truth, giving praise or thanksgiving, or
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  Speaker 1: making a solemn promise or covenant, okay? So to confess
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  Speaker 1: is to say the same thing. That's what it means,
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  Speaker 1: to say the same thing. And so when you confess
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  Speaker 1: your sins, you are agreeing with the Lord concerning your sins.
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  Speaker 1: You are agreeing with the Lord, okay? When the Bible
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  Speaker 1: says that we are to confess, we are to agree.
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  Speaker 1: We ought to give assent to the truth. That's what
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  Speaker 1: we are doing when we confess our sins. Okay? First John.
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  Speaker 1: First John. Chapter number one. And verse number nine. If
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  Speaker 1: we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
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  Speaker 1: forgive us our sins. and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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  Speaker 1: If we confess, if we say that we have sinned,
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  Speaker 1: if we agree with the Lord that we have sinned,
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  Speaker 1: he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. Amen.
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  Speaker 1: All right. This is the last one before we go
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  Speaker 1: here tonight. The role of confession, okay? And we've just
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  Speaker 1: talked about it just a bit. Romans... 10 verses 9
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  Speaker 1: and 10, that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth
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  Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that
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  Speaker 1: God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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  Speaker 1: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with
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  Speaker 1: the mouth confession is made unto salvation, okay? Agreeing with
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  Speaker 1: God concerning salvation. Agreeing with God concerning the sin in
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  Speaker 1: my own life, okay? That is how confession is made, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Confession of Christ is a statement made with the mouth
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  Speaker 1: about Jesus. Essentially, one confesses Jesus to be all that
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  Speaker 1: the Bible claims him to be. Because confession varies in wording,
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  Speaker 1: Scripture does not bind one set formula of words, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And that's going to lead to another subject that we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into the next time, amen? So we're going to
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  Speaker 1: stop right there. Listen, I want to thank you all
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in, for watching. We're going to continue next
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  Speaker 1: week talking about, next week we'll be talking a bit
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  Speaker 1: about the sinner's prayer. Going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: sinner's prayer next week and whether it is something that
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  Speaker 1: is biblical or not. What are the pros? What are
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  Speaker 1: the cons of the sinner's prayer? We'll get into it
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  Speaker 1: it for us for tonight. Amen. All righty, that'll do
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  Speaker 1: it for us for tonight. Thank everybody for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be back here, Lord willing, on Sunday for the
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  Speaker 1: Sunday Sermon Series. It's been a good time being here.
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  Speaker 1: We pray that you are blessed somehow. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: more to go in this particular series, so we look
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  Speaker 1: forward to that. Amen. So until the next time we meet,
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  Speaker 1: everybody have a good rest of your week. Amen. And
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. We'll see you. Music Playing