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WHO would KILL a vacuum salesman - MrBallen (64k) · Crime and Horror

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Speaker 1: One afternoon in February of two thousand and seven, a
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Speaker 1: very nervous man walked across an icy parking lot towards
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Speaker 1: the front door of a police station in Meryllville, Indiana.
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Speaker 1: This man had just been arrested and he was being
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Speaker 2: be allowed to leave really quickly, basically right away, because
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Speaker 2: he actually had critical information about a four year old
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Speaker 1: afternoon of April seventeenth, two thousand and three, thirty three
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Speaker 1: year old John Parker Junior sat at his desk in
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Speaker 1: his office at Jay and J. Parker Industries in Merrillville, Indiana.
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Speaker 1: He was looking over some paperwork and hoping he would
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Speaker 1: get at least a few minutes without any interruptions to
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Speaker 1: finish reading it, because in John's world, a few minutes
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Speaker 1: were hard to find. John was the owner of Jay
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Speaker 1: and Jay, which was a consulting company dedicated to training
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Speaker 1: people to sell high end vacuums. Now, vacuums were not glamorous,
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Speaker 1: but his company was really successful and running.
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Speaker 3: It was a lot of work. He was on his
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Speaker 3: feet all day managing about twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Employees and solving constant problems, and he usually did not
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Speaker 1: get much quiet time to do things like paperwork. And
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Speaker 1: even though John did complain about this, the truth was
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Speaker 1: he actually loved being busy. He'd always been a very
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Speaker 1: hard worker. He'd started in the vacuum business as a
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Speaker 1: door to door salesman, and even though everyone told him
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Speaker 1: there was no money in vacuums, he'd prove them wrong.
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Speaker 1: He was so good at sales that he made his
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Speaker 1: first million dollars by the time he was just thirty
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Speaker 1: years old. And now he had a whole company that
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Speaker 1: taught other people how to be great at it too.
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Speaker 1: But now, as John tried to get through the paperwork,
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Speaker 1: his desk phone rang. He sighed, and he picked it up,
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Speaker 1: and it was his wife, Judy. She told him that
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Speaker 1: their daughter had left her homework in his office when
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Speaker 1: she was there just the other day, and she asked
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Speaker 1: him if he could bring it home with him. Now
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Speaker 1: John was about to tell his wife that this was
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Speaker 1: now the second time she had reminded him about this homework,
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Speaker 1: but he stopped himself because right now things were pretty good,
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Speaker 1: you know, things between them were solid, and so he
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Speaker 1: tried to remind himself that it was not worth messing
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Speaker 1: that up.
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Speaker 3: So John and Judy had been.
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Speaker 1: Married for ten years and she was his partner in
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Speaker 1: life and in business. They had raised four kids together,
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Speaker 1: and Judy was actually the second Jay in Jay and
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Speaker 1: J Parker Industries.
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Speaker 3: John knew that to everyone else.
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Speaker 1: They looked like a happy, successful power couple, but the
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Speaker 1: truth was much more complicated because about a year ago,
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Speaker 1: Judy had an affair and this had devastated John at
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Speaker 1: the time, but he really wanted to give their marriage
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Speaker 1: another shot. They'd been living in Michigan at the time,
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Speaker 1: and they agreed that moving the business to Maryville, Indiana,
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Speaker 1: where John was from, would be a good way to
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Speaker 1: start fresh, and so far they both felt like it had.
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Speaker 3: Been the right call.
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Speaker 1: The business was doing really well, things were looking up,
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Speaker 1: and most importantly, John and Judy were actually getting along.
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Speaker 1: So now, instead of getting annoyed at his wife or
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Speaker 1: repeatedly asking him about the homework, he just said sure
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Speaker 1: and that he would see her later for their date night.
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Speaker 1: As soon as John hung up with Judy, he heard
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Speaker 1: a knock on the door, and his office manager, Barry Jones,
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Speaker 1: charged in, holding more files Barry dropped them on John's
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Speaker 1: desk and said, sorry, but he needed a signature. It
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Speaker 1: was for the final termination paperwork for an employee John fired, whose.
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Speaker 3: Name was Derek Hall.
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Speaker 1: So a week earlier, John had made the very difficult
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Speaker 1: decision to let Derek go.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't personal, Derek just wasn't a good fit.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't keep up with the sales quota, and John
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Speaker 1: had really high standards for his employees, that's how he
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Speaker 1: became a millionaire in the first place. But Derek somehow
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Speaker 1: thought his firing was John's fault, and he'd actually showed
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Speaker 1: up at Jay and Jay and made a scene in
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Speaker 1: the parking lot, saying that John had short at him
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Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars on his last paycheck, and when John
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Speaker 1: tried to diffuse things, Derek had physically attacked him. The
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Speaker 1: police had to be called and they separated John and
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Speaker 1: Derek before it got too ugly, and John had ended
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Speaker 1: up paying Derek what he wanted, since he just wanted
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Speaker 1: the whole thing to be over, which was also why
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Speaker 1: now he was immediately scribbling his signature on the termination
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Speaker 1: paperwork and handing it back to Barry, because hopefully now
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Speaker 1: he would just never have to see or speak to
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Speaker 1: Derek ever again. After work, around six pm, John drove home,
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Speaker 1: which was about fifteen minutes away from the office, and
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Speaker 1: when he got inside his house, he heard Judy call
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Speaker 1: down from upstairs that she'd be ready soon, so he
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Speaker 1: yelled back that there was no rush.
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Speaker 3: And he meant it.
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Speaker 1: And this was because just over an hour earlier, his
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Speaker 1: older brother David had met him at the office and
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Speaker 1: they'd gone to a buffet together. John really wasn't hungry
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Speaker 1: at all anymore, but dinner with Judy was definitely more
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Speaker 1: about spending time together than actually eating, so he wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to say anything about the late lunch. John made
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Speaker 1: his way into the living room, whereas four kids were
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Speaker 1: watching TV. It was his seventeen year old daughter Christina,
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Speaker 1: her fifteen year old brother Daniel, and their two younger sisters.
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Speaker 1: The older kids were going to babysit the younger ones
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Speaker 1: tonight so that he and Judy could go out, but
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Speaker 1: when John tried to make conversation with them, Christina and
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Speaker 1: Daniel gave him the cold shoulder. Now to any other
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Speaker 1: parent this could be interpreted, perhaps as just typical teenage behavior,
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Speaker 1: but to John it was more loaded than that. So
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Speaker 1: Christina and Daniel were actually his step kids. John had
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Speaker 1: been in their life since they were really little, and
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Speaker 1: he considered himself to be their dad, and John had
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Speaker 1: always tried to be very involved in things like coaching
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Speaker 1: Daniel and baseball and going to school concerts and parent
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Speaker 1: teacher conferences, but his relationship with these kids had changed lately,
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Speaker 1: and frankly, both of the kids had really begun acting out.
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Speaker 1: Christina repeatedly threw parties at their house whenever he and
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Speaker 1: Judy were gone, while Daniel was combative and hung out
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Speaker 1: with a group of friends who were seemingly always in
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Speaker 1: trouble with the law, and this had created a lot
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Speaker 1: of conflicts between them and John because he was the
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Speaker 1: one who tried to discipline them, while Judy sort of
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Speaker 1: always played the good cop. But John knew better than
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Speaker 1: to try and force them to talk to him, so
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Speaker 1: when he went in there, he just kept quiet and
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Speaker 1: they all watched the TV until Judy came downstairs and
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Speaker 1: said she was ready to go. Hours later, just before
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Speaker 1: ten pm, John and Judy left their dinner, got in
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Speaker 1: the car, and drove back to John's office at J
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Speaker 1: and J. Parker Industries, which was in an office park
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Speaker 1: in a secluded area, and the two of them had
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Speaker 1: had a really nice dinner.
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Speaker 3: However, during their meal, Christina had called and wanted to know.
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Speaker 1: Where that homework was that John was supposed to bring home,
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Speaker 1: and John very embarrassingly suddenly realized that despite all those
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Speaker 1: reminders from Judy that he was getting so annoyed by,
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Speaker 1: he had forgotten the homework at the office. So that's
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Speaker 1: why they were here now to pick up the homework.
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Speaker 1: On their way home, John parked the car in the
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Speaker 1: lot and both of them hopped out. When they got
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Speaker 1: inside the building, they found that the office manager, Barry,
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Speaker 1: was still there working, which John expected. I mean, things
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Speaker 1: had been busy lately with planning seminars and finding a
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Speaker 1: new hire to replace Derek, and Barry was in charge
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Speaker 1: of keeping it all organized. And John really didn't feel
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Speaker 1: too bad that Barry was putting in so many hours.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this was his job and the company relied
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Speaker 1: on him to ensure nothing major slipped through the cracks.
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Speaker 1: So when Barry mentioned to John when he went inside
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Speaker 1: that he actually might be heading home soon, John said no.
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Speaker 3: At the same time, John.
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Speaker 1: Saw his wife grab the homework from his desk and
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Speaker 1: then hustle out to the car, and as she disappeared,
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Speaker 1: John told Barry that he was sorry, but Barry needed
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Speaker 1: to stay.
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Speaker 3: And finish what he was doing.
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Speaker 1: But then to make up for delivering this bad news,
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Speaker 1: John offered Barry his leftovers from dinner. He had basically
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Speaker 1: a full meal since he had not been hungry. Barry
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Speaker 1: sort of grumbled about it, but said he would take
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Speaker 1: the food if he was offering, and so John nodded
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Speaker 1: and went outside to grab it. Moments later, John arrived
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Speaker 1: at the car where Judy was waiting in the passenger seat.
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Speaker 1: He opened up the back door and he picked up
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Speaker 1: the styrofoam to go box. When Judy looked back at him,
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Speaker 1: he told her he was going back to give the
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Speaker 1: food to Bury, and she just shrugged and said fine,
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Speaker 1: then turn back around. But right at that same moment,
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Speaker 1: John heard the sound of footsteps in the concrete right
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Speaker 1: behind him, But before he could turn around, he heard
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Speaker 1: a deafening bang. Judy heard the bang too, which was
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Speaker 1: followed quickly by a second one, and she instinctively ducked
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Speaker 1: down in her seat and then looked back at John
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Speaker 1: just in time. To see him fall hard to the ground,
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Speaker 1: and before she could do or say anything, she saw
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Speaker 1: a masked person in dark clothes crouch over John for
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Speaker 1: just a few seconds, and then.
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Speaker 3: They sprinted away from the car towards the main road.
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Speaker 3: Judy leaped out.
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Speaker 1: Of the car and ran to John, yelling his name,
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Speaker 1: but he just lay there on the pavement, not moving,
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Speaker 1: and then she saw this huge pool of blood forming
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Speaker 1: right underneath his head. With her heart racing, Judy ran
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Speaker 1: to the office door and screamed at Barry to call
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Speaker 1: the police. By about ten thirty that night, the parking
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Speaker 1: lot at Jan and J. Parker Industries was overrun with
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Speaker 1: officers and crime scene technicians. Among them was Detective Donald Toth,
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Speaker 1: who had been with the Marriville Police Department for the
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Speaker 1: last twenty one years. When he first got the call,
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Speaker 1: dispatch had only known that there was a shooting, but
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Speaker 1: when he arrived on the scene, a first responder told
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Speaker 1: him that there had actually been a fatality, thirty three
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Speaker 1: year old John Parker Junior, who had been identified by
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Speaker 1: two witnesses at the scene. The first responder also explained
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Speaker 1: that when they got there, before they spoke to the witnesses,
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Speaker 1: they had looked for John's wallet to identify him, but
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Speaker 1: the wallet had not been in his pockets or in
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Speaker 1: the car, and when Tot heard that, his first thought
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Speaker 1: was that maybe this was a robbery, But as soon
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Speaker 1: as he walked over and got a look at John,
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Speaker 1: he immediately revised that theory. John was on his back
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Speaker 1: behind a parked car, and the first thing Tot noticed
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Speaker 1: was that he had a lot of nice jewelry on
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Speaker 1: gold and diamond rings, a bracelet, and an expensive looking
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Speaker 1: Rolex watch. Also, this office park was not close to anything,
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Speaker 1: and it just didn't feel like the kind of place
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Speaker 1: a random mugger would go looking for victims. Tath wondered
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Speaker 1: if the killer took the wallet just to make police
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Speaker 1: believe this could be a robbery, because the longer he
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Speaker 1: looked at John's body, the more signs.
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Speaker 3: He saw that this was.
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Speaker 1: Likely an efficient, planned execution. John didn't have any visible
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Speaker 1: defensive wounds, and when Toth used a gloved hand to
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Speaker 1: move John's head to the side, he saw a gunshot
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Speaker 1: wound right behind his ear. Toad had actually been a
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Speaker 1: paramedic before becoming a detective, so he knew that shot
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Speaker 1: had likely killed John. Instantly It also meant John had
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Speaker 1: his back turned to the shooter when he died. There
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Speaker 1: was an open styrofoam to go container of food and
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Speaker 1: some car keys on the ground right next to John's body,
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Speaker 1: and their placement made it feel like John might have
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Speaker 1: been holding them when he felt. If John had an altercation,
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Speaker 1: like with a thief or somebody who killed him in
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Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, the scene would be way messier.
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Speaker 1: As far as Toth could tell, the killer had just
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Speaker 1: walked up to John while he was busy with something
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Speaker 1: at his car, aimed the gun, pulled the trigger, and
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Speaker 1: then after he died, grabbed John's wallet and then left,
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Speaker 1: which also meant the killer very likely had not been
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Speaker 1: at the scene long enough to leave behind much evidence.
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Speaker 1: All Toth saw were just two shellcasings, and he doubted
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Speaker 1: there would be footprints or DNA, And when Toth spoke
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Speaker 1: to some of the other officers at the scene, he
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Speaker 1: learned they'd already done a sweep at the office park
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Speaker 1: and they looked in dumpsters and bushes and on the
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Speaker 1: roofs of all the buildings, but they hadn't found anything,
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Speaker 1: and they didn't see any cameras or surveillance in the area.
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Speaker 1: So as Tos stood in the middle of the parking
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Speaker 1: lot and watched his officers continue to search the scene,
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Speaker 1: he realized he was the lead on a case with
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Speaker 1: virtually no forensic evidence, which might have been daunting, but
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Speaker 1: he did have at least two witnesses. About an hour later,
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Speaker 1: Toss sat down across a table from John Parker's wife, Judy,
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Speaker 1: inside of an interrogation room inside the Marrible police station.
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Speaker 1: He'd learned a few things about Judy already. She had
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Speaker 1: been the one who told Barry to call the police,
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Speaker 1: and she was with John when he was shot. He
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Speaker 1: also knew that as the spouse of the murder victim,
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Speaker 1: she was his best suspect. Now, Tost didn't really think
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Speaker 1: Judy was the actual shooter, but considering how pristine the
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Speaker 1: crime scene was, he knew it was possible this was
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Speaker 1: a hit done by a professional and Judy maybe could.
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Speaker 3: Have hired them.
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Speaker 1: But as tot spoke to Judy, he started to waver
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Speaker 1: on that theory. She couldn't stop crying, which made it
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Speaker 1: hard for her to get her words out, and when
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Speaker 1: she did speak, it was slow, like it was taking
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Speaker 1: her a lot of effort to say anything at all,
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Speaker 1: She did manage to give Taught the timeline how she
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Speaker 1: and John had gone out to dinner for their date
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Speaker 1: and then stopped over at the office after since one
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Speaker 1: of their daughters had left some homework there. She said
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Speaker 1: the office manager, Barry, had been there, and that when
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Speaker 1: she had gone back to the car, she knew that
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Speaker 1: Barry and John were speaking. And then at some point
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Speaker 1: John he left the building and came out to get
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Speaker 1: his dinner leftovers, and at that time she had turned
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Speaker 1: away from him, and then she heard these two loud shots,
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Speaker 1: and then when she turned back around, she saw John
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Speaker 1: fall and then also there was this figure in dark
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Speaker 1: clothes who was sort of bending down on top of John,
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Speaker 1: and then they ran away. However, when Judy finished telling
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Speaker 1: her story about what had happened that night, you know,
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Speaker 1: all the events that led up to the shooting, something
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Speaker 1: changed in her demeanor. You know, the shakiness in her voice,
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Speaker 1: and all the grief that was sort of pouring out
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Speaker 1: of her to this point, it vanished, and in its place,
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Speaker 1: Judy became very hardened, and she looked right at Tath
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Speaker 1: and she said, you better find the person who did
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Speaker 1: this and bring them to justice. And when Toss saw this,
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Speaker 1: you know, he almost got goosebumps from it because it
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Speaker 1: was such a quick departure from what had been going on,
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Speaker 1: and he thought to himself, you know, either she is
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Speaker 1: a great actress and this is all a big facade
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Speaker 1: and she did it, or she was involved, or this
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Speaker 1: is genuine. She's a grieving widow who doesn't know what
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Speaker 1: to make of the fact that her husband has just
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Speaker 1: been killed. At some point, Tot asked Judy if she
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Speaker 1: could think of anybody who might have wanted to hurt John,
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Speaker 1: and Judy appeared to think for a second, but eventually
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Speaker 1: she just said no. She said that John was an
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Speaker 1: incredible husband and father, and they had a great marriage
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Speaker 1: that they had really worked hard on, and everybody at
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Speaker 1: work respected him. But then something clearly occurred to Judy
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Speaker 1: because she frowned and said, actually, there was someone from
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Speaker 1: work who didn't like John. His name was Derek, and
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Speaker 1: John had fired him recently, and after the firing, Derek
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Speaker 1: had come back to Jay and Jay and started a
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Speaker 1: physical fight with John in the parking lot. When Toad
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Speaker 1: heard that, he perked up. I mean, a disgruntled employee
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Speaker 1: was definitely somebody that he should be speaking to, and
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Speaker 1: Toth was speaking to the office manager, Barry Jones right
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Speaker 1: after this, and so we figured he could ask him
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Speaker 1: about that incident too. Now, Toth wasn't ready to rule
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Speaker 1: Judy out as a suspect, since he still needed to
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Speaker 1: check her finances and talk to her friends and family
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Speaker 1: about her marriage. But for now he didn't see a
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Speaker 1: reason to hold her. So he told Judy that for
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Speaker 1: now she was welcome to go home and be with
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Speaker 1: her kids and you.
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Speaker 3: Grieve and they would be in touch.
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Speaker 1: Then Toth got up and he left to go to
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Speaker 1: another interrogation room where Barry was waiting. The following morning,
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Speaker 1: Toth walked up a flight of porch steps. He was
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Speaker 1: at the home of Derek Hall, the ex employee of
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Speaker 1: Jay and J. Parker Industries that John Parker had recently fired.
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Speaker 1: Last night, Toth had spoken to John's office manager, Barry Jones,
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Speaker 1: who had confirmed what John's wife, Judy, had said about
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Speaker 1: Derek that after he was fired, there had been this huge,
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Speaker 1: ugly fight at the office between Derek and John, and
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Speaker 1: Derek was the instigator. It was the only useful information
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Speaker 1: Barry had given him, since he said, you know, during
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Speaker 1: the shooting. He had actually been in the bathroom and
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Speaker 1: so he hadn't heard or seen anything until he heard
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Speaker 1: Judy screaming for him. But the lead on Derek was enough,
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Speaker 1: and the other thing was Barry and Judy were not
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Speaker 1: the only ones who thought Derek might have killed John.
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Speaker 1: Just before this, Toth also spoke to John's brother David,
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Speaker 1: who was incredibly devastated and furious about his brother's death.
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Speaker 1: And David had also pointed the finger at Derek, so
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Speaker 1: Toth was very eager to meet Derek, a man three
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Speaker 1: people claimed could be a killer. Toth got to the
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Speaker 1: top of the steps and knocked on the front door,
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Speaker 1: and when Derek answered, Tot introduced himself and explained why
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Speaker 1: he was there. Derek seems stunned, but he immediately let
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Speaker 1: Toth inside. Moments later, Toth was sitting across from Derek
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Speaker 1: in the living room, and even though Derek seemed very
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable and nervous, he told Toth he was actually glad
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Speaker 1: the detective was there because he really wanted to give
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Speaker 1: his side of the story. Derek said that when he
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Speaker 1: started working at Jay and Jay, he was given way
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Speaker 1: more work than he'd expected, and when he couldn't keep
18:11
Speaker 1: up with.
18:11
Speaker 3: It, he was fired, and then you know, John shorted
18:14
Speaker 3: him four hundred dollars.
18:16
Speaker 1: On his final paycheck, so he had gone to Jay
18:19
Speaker 1: and Jay to get the money he was owed. Now,
18:21
Speaker 1: he admitted that it did lead to a physical fight,
18:25
Speaker 1: but he said they'd only pushed each other and it
18:27
Speaker 1: ended up getting resolved, like it wasn't that big of
18:29
Speaker 1: a deal. But beyond that, Derek insisted he could not
18:32
Speaker 1: have killed John because he'd actually spent the whole evening
18:36
Speaker 1: last night at a friend's house playing video games. He
18:39
Speaker 1: gave Toath the friend's number and said, go ahead, call him,
18:41
Speaker 1: he'll confirm it. Toth tried not to look too disappointed
18:44
Speaker 1: as he took down this number. But if the alibi
18:47
Speaker 1: checked out, he could rule Derek out as a suspect. Now,
18:51
Speaker 1: it was possible that Derek had, you know, actually taken
18:53
Speaker 1: a hit out on John, but to Toth that seemed unlikely.
18:58
Speaker 1: If Derek was that upset over four hundred dollars, it
19:01
Speaker 1: didn't seem likely that he would have the excess cash
19:04
Speaker 1: to pay anybody to go commit a murder. But as
19:07
Speaker 1: Toth left Derek's house and got back in his car,
19:10
Speaker 1: he decided the interview was not a total bust after all,
19:13
Speaker 1: because talking to Derek made him realize he needed to
19:16
Speaker 1: focus more on John's business life. According to John's brother David,
19:21
Speaker 1: John got rich young and built his company very quickly,
19:25
Speaker 1: and in Toth's experience, those kinds of people often stepped
19:29
Speaker 1: on others to get to the top. The next day,
19:32
Speaker 1: Toth walked down a hallway at the precinct towards an
19:35
Speaker 1: interrogation room. He had confirmed Derek's alibi with his friend,
19:39
Speaker 1: so he had to move on to other suspects for now,
19:42
Speaker 1: which was fine with Toth because he was about to
19:44
Speaker 1: sit down with his new prime suspect, who happened to
19:47
Speaker 1: be one of his former witnesses. It was John's office manager,
19:51
Speaker 1: Barry Jones. Yesterday, Toth had gone to the J and J.
19:55
Speaker 1: Parker Industry's office and made it a point to speak
19:58
Speaker 1: to every single employee.
20:00
Speaker 3: About John, and he found out that John was a great.
20:03
Speaker 1: Boss who pushed his employees, but he worked hard himself.
20:07
Speaker 1: The employees also said that Judy was an essential part
20:10
Speaker 1: of the company and the Parkers as a duo were
20:13
Speaker 1: well respected in the world of vacuum sales, but office
20:17
Speaker 1: gossip also said their marriage was not exactly happy, and
20:21
Speaker 1: it was sort of common knowledge that Judy was having
20:24
Speaker 1: an affair with Barry Jones. A few employees had even
20:28
Speaker 1: caught them having sex at the office. Now, neither Barry
20:32
Speaker 1: nor Judy had mentioned this the first time Tot had
20:34
Speaker 1: spoken to them, So now Toth had no idea if
20:37
Speaker 1: anything they had said to him was true. Barry could
20:40
Speaker 1: have been lying about being in the bathroom and was actually,
20:42
Speaker 1: you know, the shooter, or he and Judy were maybe
20:46
Speaker 1: working together and they were both lying. Toth was leaning
20:49
Speaker 1: towards the second option because he had also found out
20:52
Speaker 1: that Judy was going to get a big payday from
20:54
Speaker 1: the death of her husband. She was the beneficiary of
20:57
Speaker 1: a one million dollar life insurance policy, and aside from that,
21:01
Speaker 1: John's general estate was worth around two million dollars.
21:05
Speaker 3: Maybe he thought, you know, she and.
21:07
Speaker 1: Barry wanted to take John's money and run off together.
21:11
Speaker 1: So when Toth went into the interrogation room, he intended
21:14
Speaker 1: on essentially saying that the investigation was over. They'd caught
21:18
Speaker 1: Barry in a lie and they knew what he did.
21:20
Speaker 1: But when Toth sat down and confronted him, Barry did.
21:24
Speaker 3: Not act like somebody who was guilty and cornered.
21:27
Speaker 1: He was charismatic and confident, and he said the affair
21:30
Speaker 1: was total office gossip. He was just good friends with
21:33
Speaker 1: Judy and they worked together closely. Barry said he and Judy.
21:37
Speaker 3: And John were like family.
21:39
Speaker 1: In fact, he said he was living with one of
21:41
Speaker 1: Judy's cousins from Texas. Now, Toth didn't really believe what
21:44
Speaker 1: Barry was saying, but even though he kept pressing him,
21:48
Speaker 1: Barry stuck to his story, and eventually Tot just had
21:51
Speaker 1: to let him go because without any evidence, it was
21:54
Speaker 1: just Barry and Judy's word against the employees, and even
21:57
Speaker 1: if they were having an affair, that was not enough
22:00
Speaker 1: to prove they also conspired to murder John. On Monday,
22:07
Speaker 1: April twenty first, so four days after John's murder, Toth
22:11
Speaker 1: was at his desk rereading the notes from Barry and
22:14
Speaker 1: Judy's interviews for what felt like the millionth time. He
22:17
Speaker 1: was still trying to find a concrete way to link
22:19
Speaker 1: Judy and Barry to John's murder before approaching Judy about it.
22:23
Speaker 1: But so far, other than the office rumors, he hadn't
22:26
Speaker 1: found anything, and he didn't really have any other leads,
22:30
Speaker 1: aside from learning that the shellcasings found on the scene
22:33
Speaker 1: were from a twenty five caliber gun, which was useful
22:36
Speaker 1: to know, but it wasn't going to help him with
22:38
Speaker 1: the suspect list. Tath leaned back in his chair and
22:40
Speaker 1: rubbed his eyes. He'd been full speed ahead on this
22:43
Speaker 1: case since Thursday night, and he was exhausted. He was
22:46
Speaker 1: starting to consider maybe going home and getting some rest
22:49
Speaker 1: when he heard a light knock on his door. An
22:52
Speaker 1: officer poked his head in and told Toath there was
22:55
Speaker 1: somebody online three with a tip, and it sounded like
22:58
Speaker 1: a good one. Tot picked up his phone and the
23:00
Speaker 1: person on the other end of the line explained they
23:03
Speaker 1: were a police officer as well, from a nearby town,
23:06
Speaker 1: and they said that they had heard about John Parker's
23:08
Speaker 1: murder on the news and realized they had some information.
23:12
Speaker 1: So about six months earlier, this officer had been called
23:15
Speaker 1: to a local juvenile detention facility to take a report.
23:19
Speaker 1: The staff there had done a random search on their
23:21
Speaker 1: kids and found that two of them had a lot
23:23
Speaker 1: of cash, over two hundred dollars. Having cash was against
23:27
Speaker 1: the rules, and when the kids were asked where they
23:29
Speaker 1: got it. They said it was payment for a hit
23:32
Speaker 1: on John Parker. Now that stunned Toth, but not nearly
23:36
Speaker 1: as much as what the officer said next.
23:39
Speaker 3: These two kids.
23:40
Speaker 1: Said the person who had arranged this hit was a
23:43
Speaker 1: former high school classmate of theirs named Daniel Hicks, and
23:47
Speaker 1: Toth couldn't believe what he was hearing because Daniel Hicks
23:50
Speaker 1: was John's own fifteen year old step son. Toth had
23:54
Speaker 1: really begun to think that this murder could be a
23:56
Speaker 1: professional hit, but it did not occur to him that
23:59
Speaker 1: this hit could be linked to family and also a child. Now,
24:04
Speaker 1: the officer on the phone explained that they really hadn't
24:07
Speaker 1: taken this very seriously at the time, so no one
24:10
Speaker 1: had notified John's family or spoken to Daniel about it,
24:13
Speaker 1: which you know, Toth did not have to point out here,
24:15
Speaker 1: but this was.
24:16
Speaker 3: A huge screw up.
24:18
Speaker 1: But he wasn't focused on, you know, the right and
24:21
Speaker 1: wrong of it. He was just focused on figuring out
24:23
Speaker 1: what happened. And so Toth got the names of these
24:25
Speaker 1: two kids with the cash from the officer, and when
24:28
Speaker 1: he hung up, he immediately sent some of his own
24:31
Speaker 1: officers to track these kids down. Then Toth put in
24:34
Speaker 1: a call to Judy. He needed to bring her son
24:37
Speaker 1: Daniel in for an interview, and since he was a minor,
24:40
Speaker 1: Judy was going to have to come to Late that
24:44
Speaker 1: same night, actually after midnight, Toth was once again inside
24:48
Speaker 1: of an interrogation room with Judy, but this time instead
24:52
Speaker 1: of answering questions herself, Judy was sitting at the back
24:54
Speaker 1: of the room watching while her son, Daniel sat at
24:57
Speaker 1: the table with Toth and a few other d detectives.
25:01
Speaker 1: Tat had spoken to Judy right before this, and she
25:03
Speaker 1: had seemed genuinely shocked to hear that her child apparently
25:07
Speaker 1: asked somebody to kill John. She told Tat there had
25:11
Speaker 1: to be a mistake here, and she was happy for
25:13
Speaker 1: police to speak to Daniel directly because that would allow
25:15
Speaker 1: them to clear this all up. Tat had decided not
25:18
Speaker 1: to ask Judy.
25:19
Speaker 3: About the affair with Barry at that moment.
25:21
Speaker 1: Because she was being very cooperative letting them speak to
25:23
Speaker 1: her son, and he also just didn't want to upset
25:26
Speaker 1: her and have her change her mind. They also had
25:28
Speaker 1: not been able to find those two kids that Daniel
25:31
Speaker 1: supposedly hired, and so right now Daniel was the only
25:34
Speaker 1: one he could speak to, and so now watching Daniel,
25:38
Speaker 1: Tat could see he was acting like a typical young
25:40
Speaker 1: person who was in trouble. He seemed nervous, and he
25:43
Speaker 1: was blinking a lot, and he kept rearranging his hands
25:46
Speaker 1: like he wasn't really sure what to do with them,
25:48
Speaker 1: And so Tot decided his best approach.
25:50
Speaker 3: Was just to be direct. Maybe he could scare the
25:53
Speaker 3: truth out of Daniel.
25:54
Speaker 1: So right off the bat, he told Daniel he knew
25:57
Speaker 1: about the murder for hire, and he told him to
25:59
Speaker 1: explain himself, and to Toth's surprise, Daniel took a big
26:04
Speaker 1: breath and then said it was true. He had actually
26:08
Speaker 1: paid two friends some money he had saved from his allowance.
26:11
Speaker 3: Because he hated his stepdad.
26:13
Speaker 1: John was always on his case and yelling at him,
26:16
Speaker 1: and Daniel just wanted it to stop.
26:18
Speaker 3: But Daniel said he didn't want John to die.
26:21
Speaker 1: He was adamant that he had just asked his friends
26:23
Speaker 1: to teach John a lesson and beat him up.
26:26
Speaker 3: Toad thought about this.
26:28
Speaker 1: It was possible that Daniel was telling the truth here,
26:30
Speaker 1: and the two kids in the detention center either lied
26:34
Speaker 1: or had decided on their own to kill John, but
26:36
Speaker 1: that felt a little far fetched, because why would these
26:39
Speaker 1: kids lie to get themselves in more trouble.
26:42
Speaker 3: Tad thought it was much more.
26:44
Speaker 1: Likely that Daniel was the one who was lying, and
26:46
Speaker 1: Toth was not about to let Daniel go anywhere until
26:49
Speaker 1: he found out for sure. So he told Daniel and
26:53
Speaker 1: Judy that he was sorry, but they were going to
26:55
Speaker 1: have to take Daniel into custody. Then Toth called some
26:58
Speaker 1: officers in to make the arrest, and as he left
27:01
Speaker 1: the room, you could hear Judy and Daniel sounding completely
27:04
Speaker 1: shocked behind him. Now, at this point, even though Toth
27:07
Speaker 1: had been up all night and he was totally exhausted,
27:10
Speaker 1: at the same time, he actually felt far more alert
27:13
Speaker 1: than he did even in the couple days before, because
27:16
Speaker 1: now it felt like they really were making movement on
27:19
Speaker 1: this case. And so instead of trying to get some
27:22
Speaker 1: rest back at his house, he went back to his office,
27:24
Speaker 1: bored some coffee, and kept on working. On May fifteenth,
27:35
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, so almost a month after John
27:38
Speaker 1: Parker's murder, Detective Don Toth sat at his desk reading
27:42
Speaker 1: some copy for a flyer and making some last minute
27:44
Speaker 1: changes to it. So far, it said that police were
27:47
Speaker 1: looking for information about John Parker's murder in Maryville, and
27:51
Speaker 1: it offered a reward to anybody who came forward. Toth
27:54
Speaker 1: planned to pass these flyers out all over town tomorrow
27:57
Speaker 1: to see if the public could maybe give him a
27:59
Speaker 1: new lead. It was sort of an act of desperation
28:03
Speaker 1: because while this.
28:03
Speaker 3: Case had seemed close a couple.
28:05
Speaker 1: Times to being wrapped up, you know, just a few
28:08
Speaker 1: weeks ago, now it was pretty much dead. It had
28:12
Speaker 1: taken police a while, but they had finally found both
28:15
Speaker 1: of those kids from the detention center that Daniel apparently
28:19
Speaker 1: hired to you know, rough up his dad, who ultimately
28:21
Speaker 1: apparently killed him, and the kids admitted to meeting with
28:24
Speaker 1: Daniel and accepting the money, but it turned out there
28:27
Speaker 1: was just no way they were actually the murderers. One
28:31
Speaker 1: of them had been thousands of miles away in Las
28:33
Speaker 1: Vegas when John was killed, and the other had been
28:37
Speaker 1: in detention at a juvenile facility. And so since Toth
28:40
Speaker 1: could not prove the assassin's Daniel hired had actually killed anyone,
28:44
Speaker 1: he'd had to.
28:45
Speaker 3: Let Daniel go. But that didn't mean Daniel was innocent. Here.
28:49
Speaker 1: Those two kids had said that Daniel did ask for
28:51
Speaker 1: John to be killed, not just beat up. So Daniel
28:55
Speaker 1: was lying about that, and Toth didn't think someone who
28:58
Speaker 1: wanted to kill his father had just stopped wanting to
29:01
Speaker 1: kill his dad all of a sudden. But since Tat
29:04
Speaker 1: knew Daniel was at home babysitting his younger siblings during
29:07
Speaker 1: the time of John's murderer, Toat figured he'd likely gotten
29:10
Speaker 1: somebody else to do it.
29:12
Speaker 3: But Toth couldn't just keep.
29:14
Speaker 1: Talking to Daniel because Judy had gotten a lawyer and
29:18
Speaker 1: they were now not letting Toth question the family members
29:20
Speaker 1: at all anymore, which was very frustrating, since Toth wasn't
29:23
Speaker 1: done with Judy either. Out of everyone, I mean, she
29:27
Speaker 1: benefited the most from John's death because she was a
29:29
Speaker 1: beneficiary on his life insurance, and she was very likely
29:33
Speaker 1: having an affair with his office manager, Barry, and so
29:36
Speaker 1: maybe part of her motive could have been just to
29:38
Speaker 1: hide the affair from him. And then also Barry, I mean,
29:41
Speaker 1: he's potentially having this affair with Judy, John's wife, I
29:44
Speaker 1: mean he might have a motive as well to get
29:47
Speaker 1: rid of John, to just keep this thing a secret. Also,
29:50
Speaker 1: he definitely seemed to think that John was a pretty
29:53
Speaker 1: tough boss, and so maybe he just had had enough
29:55
Speaker 1: and he was complicit or actively involved in getting rid
29:59
Speaker 1: of John. He was also so at the scene of
30:00
Speaker 1: the crime right when it happened, and since there weren't
30:03
Speaker 1: any cameras, Toth couldn't actually confirm Barry's version of events.
30:08
Speaker 1: But at this point, Tot didn't have the evidence he
30:11
Speaker 1: needed to prove any of these suspects actually killed John
30:15
Speaker 1: or hired somebody to do it, and he also didn't
30:18
Speaker 1: have enough evidence to eliminate them and narrow down his
30:20
Speaker 1: pool further. Instead, Toth had just kept adding to it
30:24
Speaker 1: because as of this week, he was also considering John's
30:27
Speaker 1: brother David as a person of interest. A few days ago,
30:31
Speaker 1: some officers had been called to Judy's house because John's
30:34
Speaker 1: brother David had stopped by her house and gotten into
30:37
Speaker 1: a verbal fight.
30:38
Speaker 3: With the family. And this was not the first time
30:40
Speaker 3: this had happened.
30:41
Speaker 1: Apparently David had gone over there and threatened the family before,
30:46
Speaker 1: one time he had even damaged their car. This kind
30:49
Speaker 1: of behavior could mean David was just lashing out because
30:52
Speaker 1: he was grieving, but it also could mean he was
30:55
Speaker 1: erratic and potentially violent. Plus he had been with John
30:58
Speaker 1: on the afternoon of the murder that buffet, and he
31:01
Speaker 1: knew that John was going to have dinner with his
31:03
Speaker 1: wife later, so he could have guessed that John would
31:06
Speaker 1: check in at the office after they were done eating.
31:09
Speaker 1: Since he was a famously hard worker, Toth sided and
31:12
Speaker 1: took a break from looking at this flyer. His brain
31:15
Speaker 1: was fried, but he felt hopeful these flyers would give
31:19
Speaker 1: him the tip he desperately needed to break this case,
31:22
Speaker 1: and so the next day Toth and some other officers
31:25
Speaker 1: passed these flyers out. But then weeks went by with
31:28
Speaker 1: no tips, and even though Toth did eventually get a
31:32
Speaker 1: few responses to the flyers, none of them gave him
31:35
Speaker 1: any actual evidence. So over the next few months, Tot
31:39
Speaker 1: spent his days in his office pouring over files for
31:42
Speaker 1: something he missed, or maybe a witnessed they did an interview,
31:45
Speaker 1: or evidence they'd maybe overlooked, But there was just nothing,
31:49
Speaker 1: and as the months turned into years, Toth had to
31:52
Speaker 1: turn to other projects, and eventually the John Parker murder
31:56
Speaker 1: case went cold. Four years after John's murder, On an
32:05
Speaker 1: afternoon in February of two thousand and seven, Tot arrived
32:09
Speaker 1: at work for the day and headed to his office. Now,
32:12
Speaker 1: he had not forgotten about the John Parker case, but
32:15
Speaker 1: he was not actively investigating it at this point. In fact,
32:19
Speaker 1: all his cases had been winding down because he was planning.
32:22
Speaker 3: To retire in just a few months.
32:24
Speaker 1: But right before he actually got to his office door,
32:28
Speaker 1: a narcotics officer caught up to him and asked for
32:30
Speaker 1: a word. The officer explained that he knew Toth wasn't
32:34
Speaker 1: on their narcotics team, but they had a warrant out
32:36
Speaker 1: for a man involved in one of their drug investigations,
32:39
Speaker 1: and they had realized this man had some crossover with
32:42
Speaker 1: one of Tot's homicides from two thousand and.
32:44
Speaker 3: Three, the John Parker case.
32:46
Speaker 1: Tot stopped in his tracks and immediately told this officer
32:50
Speaker 1: to go get him an interview, And sure enough, later
32:53
Speaker 1: that day, Tot sat down with this man who was
32:56
Speaker 1: very chatty and seemed extremely eager to talk. And the
33:00
Speaker 1: first thing this man did was explained that the person
33:03
Speaker 1: he lived with knew John Parker and they had admitted
33:06
Speaker 1: to him that they were directly involved.
33:09
Speaker 3: In his death.
33:10
Speaker 1: And when this man told toat the name of this person,
33:13
Speaker 1: Tot couldn't believe it.
33:15
Speaker 3: He leaned back in his chair, feeling both.
33:17
Speaker 1: Relieved and also disturbed. He was relieved because he finally
33:22
Speaker 1: knew who John Parker's killer was, and he was disturbed
33:26
Speaker 1: because this case was now way more twisted than he
33:29
Speaker 1: had ever imagined. Based on the police investigation and multiple confessions,
33:39
Speaker 1: here is a reconstruction of what investigators believe happened to
33:43
Speaker 1: John Parker on the night of April seventeenth, two thousand
33:46
Speaker 1: and three, at around ten pm, the killer crept slowly
33:56
Speaker 1: through the shadowy parking lot at Jay and J. Parker Industry.
34:00
Speaker 1: They were wearing a mask and dark clothes, and they
34:03
Speaker 1: were carrying a twenty five caliber gun. They could see
34:06
Speaker 1: John's car by the office entrance, with Judy sitting inside
34:09
Speaker 1: of it, but she was not the killer's target.
34:12
Speaker 3: John was. And John was also near the car.
34:15
Speaker 1: He was not inside of it. He was standing right
34:18
Speaker 1: outside one of the back car doors. It was open,
34:20
Speaker 1: and he was rifling around, you know, inside the car,
34:23
Speaker 1: looking for something. And as the killer stared at John
34:25
Speaker 1: thinking about what they were going to do next, they
34:28
Speaker 1: thought about John, who this man was, and how controlling
34:31
Speaker 1: and selfish he was. He had made the killer's life
34:34
Speaker 1: a living hell, and now the killer was going to
34:38
Speaker 1: get retribution. So while John continued to have his back turned,
34:42
Speaker 1: the killer silently walked up right behind him. They raised
34:46
Speaker 1: their gun, aimed at the back of his head, and
34:49
Speaker 1: they fired, and it was a direct hit that hit
34:52
Speaker 1: him right behind the ear, and John fell so fast
34:55
Speaker 1: that when the killer fired a second.
34:57
Speaker 3: Time, they just missed. Now, the killer had no never
35:00
Speaker 3: murdered anyone before, so they were shocked by what they
35:03
Speaker 3: had just done.
35:04
Speaker 1: But they were kind of jostled back into reality when
35:07
Speaker 1: they heard John's wife, Judy, yelling out and screaming, and
35:10
Speaker 1: so quick as can be, the killer grabbed John's wallet
35:13
Speaker 1: so the police would think this was maybe a robbery
35:15
Speaker 1: gone wrong, and then they turned and sprinted off into
35:19
Speaker 1: the night. Much later that night, the killer waited at
35:22
Speaker 1: home until the person who had masterminded this whole thing arrived,
35:26
Speaker 1: and they gave them a hug and said they had
35:28
Speaker 1: done a good job. The mastermind then took the gun,
35:31
Speaker 1: John's wallet and the clothes the killer wore during the
35:34
Speaker 1: murder and told the killer they were disposing of them,
35:37
Speaker 1: and the killer just listened, feeling very relieved. He trusted
35:40
Speaker 1: the mastermind more than anybody else in the whole world,
35:43
Speaker 1: because after all, she was his mother.
35:48
Speaker 3: It would turn.
35:49
Speaker 1: Out Judy had convinced her own fifteen year old son Daniel,
35:53
Speaker 1: to murder his stepfather, her husband. Judy wanted to get
35:57
Speaker 1: out of her marriage with John, but she knew if
35:59
Speaker 1: she did him, she would have only gotten half of
36:02
Speaker 1: his estate and their business, and so with his death
36:06
Speaker 1: she could get the whole thing now. She had actually
36:08
Speaker 1: already tried to kill John, just unsuccessfully. First, she had
36:12
Speaker 1: tried to poison him, but when that didn't work, she
36:15
Speaker 1: had hired a hitman herself, but that also failed, so
36:18
Speaker 1: finally she asked Daniel to help by promising that he
36:21
Speaker 1: would get some of the money, and she had also
36:23
Speaker 1: enlisted her daughter, Christina, who was the one who found
36:26
Speaker 1: the gun to kill John with Daniel actually tried to
36:29
Speaker 1: hire somebody else for the job, but then ultimately just
36:32
Speaker 1: did it himself and used his younger siblings for an alibi,
36:35
Speaker 1: saying he was at home babysitting.
36:37
Speaker 3: And the man who.
36:38
Speaker 1: Told all this to the police was Christina's husband, who
36:41
Speaker 1: she married two years after John's death, and once her
36:45
Speaker 1: husband gave authorities the whole story, police interrogated both Christina
36:49
Speaker 1: and Daniel, who eventually confessed. Judy was convicted of murder
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Speaker 1: and sentenced to thirty three years in prison, while Daniel
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Speaker 1: got twenty three years in prison and Christina received five
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Speaker 1: years for her part in the murder as well. Christina
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Speaker 1: would die in twenty thirteen from a drug overdose. Daniel
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Speaker 1: was released in twenty seventeen, and Judy was released in
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